ANGRY WAS WRONG! SpaceX ramping up Boca Chica big time!!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- I wuz wrong!! According to the FAA, SpaceX is seriously upgrading the launch cadence at Boca Chica! How bad will the opposition be?
PLUS, more updates on the Falcon 9 RUD!
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Why isn't the FAA this vigilant with Boeing? 🤔
Because Boeing doesn’t build and launch rockets?
Money it's always money
@@AdrianBoyko😂
Lobbyist
Seriously, the nonsense about Boeing needs to stop. They're a great company. Sure, Starliner is a mess, but the airliner stuff is almost entirely media hype. The, 777, for example, is one of the safest and most reliable aircraft ever built.
Will people flying on Starship be called "Musketeers"?
More likely Muskrats”!
I want my sunny-side-up eggs
Just crazy bastards
In response to the Musketeers question. If fitting this rational and subject to any other suggestion.
A band of people fighting for a noble cause. In this case explorers pushing into the unknown for all mankind's benefits. Also eluding to three persons but inclusive of any other wishing, capable with the characteristics required to expand in number only if the team is greater in force by a magnitude relative to the addition. As opposed to the subtraction which is normally a calculative principle. Eg. The best part is no part unless a factor is a better solution by an optimality equation creating necessity.
THAT is my educated guess according to logical reasoning within an imaginative environment.
Kudos to you sir you always say that you will make a public retraction if someone can prove you wrong thanks for being a man of your word!
9:46 Booster sets down on the water: note the SPEED readout at 9 km/h, and the orientation indicator to the right near-vertical
9:52 Booster, having tipped over, hits the water: note the SPEED readout is now 101 km/h, and the orientation indicator is close to horizontal
The explosion will have occurred at this point - right when the feed cuts out (because a blown-up Booster can't transmit data...) The explosion is caused by the top of the Booster hitting water broadside at over 100 km/h - as can be seen from the SPEED readout (the speed is evidently measured by equipment located at the top of the Booster). The Booster is not designed or built to survive such an impact.
I have doubts about the telemetry in those last few moments.
We also don't see stainless steel debris flying about in the air in the leaked picture, so it's unlikely the booster exploded. My guess is the fireball was trapped methane burning off as the tip-over releases it. There may have been excess methane leaking from the RUD'd engine.
@@classic_sci_fi the tilt indicator is perfectly in synch with the video showing the Booster tipping over (just pay attention to the horizon...) So, the telemetry is up-to-date, and there's no reason to doubt it.
The speed at impact is also plausible: the Booster is 70 m tall, so its tip travelled 110 m (1/4 of a circle with a 70 m radius) on its way down, in a span of just about 5 seconds, accelerating the whole time.
Yeah i 100% agree and its clear as day, i can't believe there are debates about this.
@@classic_sci_fii think the telemetry is correct, however i believe the video feed is delayed slightly, thats why it looks weird in those final moments
You know they are eventually just take over that entire little area and make a spaceport. The government will back it because they want the capability.
Texas govt. definitely wants that. They intend to secure infrastrukture.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Indeed. While I'm in favor of SpaceX winning. The Texas government is always in favor of big business over the little people. They're not gonna care about some small time farmers, vacationers or Natives.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Maybe they should start with their power grid?
Once Trump gets elected he will tell the FAA and stupid environmentals to step aside and SpaceX will not be as hindered. Part of the reason why Musk backs Trump and also because the democrats have been disrespecting Musk for a while now.
RUD could be an explosion, but it could also be the engine just ate itself and spit stuff out the nozzle, but explosion probably gets more clicks.
I think that the “rapid” part of RUD is supposed to imply an explosion. If an engine disintegrates and exits through the nozzle, that would be an UD.
@@AdrianBoyko lol i can assure with the velocity of fuel moving thru the combustion chamber that if the engine ate itself it would be instant
@@mudkatt2003 So you’ve never seen any of the SpaceX flights with green exhaust, sometimes referred to as “engine rich exhaust”?
@@AdrianBoyko lol exactly my point, those engines did not "explode"
25 launches and landings is a nice increase!
Elon said he would refrain from eating an omlete in recognition of the nine bird nests.
An entire week
Freaking ridiculous the extent liberals will go... the amount of hate in these ppls heart, is astronomical
Exactly. Angry got it wrong
90 miles of Padre Island is already protected. How much of Florida coast is? The small area at Boca is not an environmental disaster in anyway been there many times and it is just a big flat.
How many bird nests were damaged by hurricane Beryl? I'll wait........🙄
There isn’t anything that can stop a hurricane… not even Musk’s hot air.
@@tonycincera3353 All congress has to do is pass a law that hurricanes are illegal. Problem solved!
Anybody surprized if it were exactly these nine nests?
The Muskverse has been migrating towards Texas for years now but SpaceX are never gonna get the mind boggling cadence Starship requires down in Boca Chica. It will will remain a mostly R&D facility. Florida will become the launch centre for Starship, just as it is now for F9/FH. That's just as soon as Big Organ get's off SpaceX's case.
I agree
I think once Starship is a proven vehicle, the state will probably end up doing a large land swap, and SpaceX will get a large environmental waiver to basically take over the whole area and seashore. Too much money in it to do otherwise.
Been watching "they ain't never gonna ......." for years. Then when they get it done they move on to the next 'they ain't never gonna" and ya'll all fall for it every time
Ultimately, to get the launch cadence that Elon wants, they will be needing more than 2 launch facilities anyway.
@darkstar7999, next is California, as soon as Starship is fully operational.
The whole entire region in that area is going to be developed by SpaceX. It’s a national security thing or it’s going to become that.
No amount of ecological damage will ever top that created by the Brownsville channel and port. Why aren’t any of these nutty environmental groups complaining about that?
Because they're puppets
Because leftists hate Elon
@@HChandler2010are you sure they're not muppets?
They do, however that is a separate issue as the SpaceX site is built right in the middle of a wildlife reserve. And should have been placed further South or further north.
@@nickmontanaro9638 Why not both?
They claim a few nests were damaged. Have they heard of predators? Environmental groups will use anything to shut down space X. And yea the omelette joke made laugh.😂
Yeah we know. You're wrong most the time
I think they saw how much hostility at the cape from the other providers had towards them with their expected cadence and double downed on Boca. As a Texan, I am for expanding the facilities. Thanks Angry. Hope the Brit’s are treating you well.
SpaceX never slowed down at Boca Chica, they are expanding right now.
A huge factory, a car park (parking lot) and a supermarket down the road towards there.
Plus a second launch tower, with the parts taken from Florida.
Yay! Angry Astronaut demonstrates integrity. You can bet opposition to increased launch cadence at Boca Chica will be fierce, but the more shrill the boo birds get the less credibility they will hold. Staying on the correct side of the derangement line is always helpful. When in a disagreement you must always be aware and arguing for your own side. Cross that line and you're working for the opposition.
@@RockinRobbins13 tax dollars increasing and increased spending in neighboring towns from visitors, workers, travelers, suppliers, will put government on SpaceX's side and blind eyes a lot in their favor.
@@NeedsLessWedge It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong in the arena of ideas. If you cross the derangement line you lose. To effectively argue a case, your aims must be reasonable and your approach disciplined. That is not a characteristic of the environmental movement.
I remember the environmentalist "protests" against Cassini sending radioactive material to Jupupiter. The crazies climbed he fences and handcuffed themselves to the inside. Rather than engage in a discussion of the truth, they sought news media attention by derangement. The public saw they were insane and ignored anything they said, whether right or wrong.
As a result there was no review. The public was denied their opportunity to be reassured or to have defects remedied.
The only aim of the "environmentalists" was to get on the 6 o'clock news and stop the launch. The launch happened and they were exposed as loonies. Lack of discipline and planning spell the doom of any movement.
It was obvious by the shear amount of investment SpaceX is doing in South Texas. SpaceX wouldn't be building a factory there if they planned to abandon the thing, and they certainly wouldn't build a launch site either.
Elon didn't say he was going to eat an omelet, instead he said that he would refrain from eating on omelet for a week.
better if he stops fertilizing them.
Going to Mars will require thousands of launches.
There's an island off Puerto Rico that the navy used for target practice that might make a good launch site. I think Midway in the Pacific would make a good spaceport for any commercial launch company that wants to lease space on an "oil platform" style launch pad. Converted container ships and cruise liners can host the work shops and provide living space for the personel.
I thought SpaceX was looking into building their own alternate road to cut down closures. SpaceX has spent $3B to date on Boca Chica. Accelerated R&D will take place there for quite some time.
They are.
Transport closures aren't the same thing as launch closures. For launch operations, or even Booster static fire tests, SpaceX blocks off and evacuates the entire area from the beach to Starbase - not just the road. Also, for launches, a large area of the ocean east of Starbase is blocked to sea traffic - which trends toward turning into a significant nuisance, if it begins to happen on the order of once a week, every week.
I think they had to explode the booster when it landed in the water because it would not of sunk without there being holes in it
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Thank you for quickly and actively making corrections for your prior commentary.
The rest of the media would have much better credibility if they followed your example.
Keep doing what you do so well.
Making corrections only makes this channel more trustable.
In my past comments I too have said that the Orbital Launch Mount at Boca Chica was just for Testing. SpaceX needs more than the three launch facilities at Cape Canaveral Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40), Vandenberg Space Force Base Space Launch Complex 4E (SLC-4E), Kennedy Space Center Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A)... How long will it take to build the six towers at these facilities? Since SpaceX is in such a rush to keep the agreement with NASA, NASA should not stand in the way of using the three Launch Complexes. At Boca Chica there is a launch tower with the first landing tower going up, so I do understand why SpaceX wants to use them. keep investigating Angry!
Unlike the published plans for LC-39A, the second tower at Boca Chica is going to be a full launch tower - not just a "landing tower". As soon as the second tower is operational, SpaceX will shut down the first tower for some thorough gutting and retrofitting.
I think Musk better look at setting up a launch-facility on a disused oil-plantform, or, on a large oil-tanker!
Litigations aside, a superheavy explosion on the pad at Boca Chica or the Cape would be a catastrophe!
Angry, you are way off base about the super heavy landing. You had engines still running when the booster hit the water. You really think nothing will happen when running engines are submerged in the ocean? Of course there most likely was a RUD. I really do not get what you are on about with this. Anyone versed in basic mechanics knows this.
Wonder who let the nefarious, undercover Boeing employee into the falcon assembly line for "inspection".✂️
Wow, a knock on Boeing. That's rare.
@@jamescarter8311business as usual
FAA didint response fast, because, in my opinion, footage that you requested (explosion what we saw filmed brom buoy) does not belong to SpaceX and biurocracy happens to get it
Appreciate you making the correction. Not too many people as big a person as you on this point.
But it didn't explode. Satellites were actually delivered. It failed to relight
Go out skywatching. Somewhere dark, don't bring recording equipment.
so if the FAA looks for threats to the public and the mishap DID NOT pose a threat...they can just launch again?
They need a license, that is suspended or paused while an investigation is ongoing unless otherwise permitted by the FAA.
@@brianw612No need for FAA to be involved. Clearly an isolated incident, and SpaceX isn't Boeing. They aren't going to fly important payloads with a possibly faulty hardware component. They will do their own research and hold back their launches on their own.
NASA now solely dependant on the non functional Starliner, to get astronauts to the ISS.
Yes and no, but they really should look into every incident regardless of the company and SpaceX is obviously going to try to correct their mistakes.
Starship program is still in the development process far from the finished product ! Luckily Space X is a profitable company through his Falcon 9 sales.
F those damn birds.
In the long run, yes, it could be an issue.
For now might expect 24 launches per year from Starbase Boca Tx. Two towers twice the launches.
Assuming the Kennedy new tower is being built early next year... You might add a couple launches at the end of the year. Assumed Starship starlink and manned launches from Kennedy Fla, Starship test and refueling launches from Starbase Tx.
Although I would expect a Falcon-9 Dragon intercept Starship in orbit missions. Avoiding Starship's manned launch/reentry and refueling critical phases and certifications.
Space X could do a transorbital moon test flight with maybe 3 refueling flights, unless Space X wants to test out its full 50-100 ton payload capacity.
Physical Moon landing and launching. takes more, based upon the payload tonnage carried to the moon.
I would expect both a unmanned test and a manned flights.
Be strange if tower one is disassembled and a new base, OLM and flame trench is built, and restacked.
SpaceX could encourage employees and contractors to attend the public hearings. Space is now an integral part of national security. Just study the use of satellites in the war in Ukraine that Putin started. Unfortunately, sites on the coast in the USA are now all occupied with other uses. SpaceX searched the entire country, yet could not find another suitable site for developing their revolutionary reusable resource conserving launch system.
An omelette?
lol Elon’s hilarious 😂
the incident with the booster whether it landed or exploded has been classified which i was told by a family member in the australian navy who was there on the day
The CLUEs were all over ... the expansion of StarFactory, the transport of KSC Tower 2 components to Boca Chica, the huge new Starbase Office Building and Parking Garage. Did observers think that all those Booster Heavy & Ships were simply going to be barged over to Florida? Has ANYONE ever seen a Booster Heavy or a Starship oriented in the horizontal ??? (Answer ... No You Haven't) Deano in DC
Anger always makes us wrong.
I'm angry that Angry was wrong about space👽👽👽
I'm angry your angry about angry being angry.
You gained another subscriber. Happy to see them expanding. Someone has to be serious about getting to space.
Should be expedited as a matter of national security.
Hope they figured the windage with that height and narrow structure.
I appreciate you admitting your mistake. The world needs more of this. I am now subscribing
Thanks so much!!
If only the FAA was this aggressively on the ball with Boeing , who seen to get a pass on their appalling standards.
Maybe they need a land swap for the beach. Then just let people use the beach for free on non launch days.
Even if they move majority of their launches to the Cape, Boca would have to be used to launch new built startships and boosters. Has SpaceX provided any estimate of "normal" pace for adding new vesicles to the active fleet? Excluding ruds.
Turkey must be counting their blessing that it wasn't Türksat...
It was bound to happen...no system is perfect.
Bet it comes down to some "newbies" mixing up rejects with flight ready hardware or something to that effect.
LOL. "A SHIT SHOW!" That's so very Aussie sounding. Fair comment though.
AA, keep up the fight for information, we count on you and appreciate all your efforts!
Why space X just build a new private road so they don’t have to close public roads each time before launching. 🚀
Good Work Jordan on the FOIA request for the 'redacted' Flight 4 Booster Heavy end-of-landing footage. Not sure why SpaceX tried to play it so Cute ... Deano in DC
If the 25 launches includes all the tanker launches then the disruption to the beach and road closures might not be as many days as it first sounds
Elon has Asperger's. His jokes don't always land.
Thanks for setting a good example.
I am not certain I have ever been right… I just want to keep a very good average of not being wrong.
Thats it thats all.
Take care
Jeremy
And to correct Angry. There are no "Native Americans" in the Rio Grande Valley. The Valley was never Native American, it was Mexican.
don't agree with your statement "I'm not going to let go of this story". You want them to progress, or be mired in bureaucracy, endless? We can see which approach makes progress, nd the other does not.
CALLED IT!
Bam!
Could this also be used for transferring future rockets from Boca to Cape instead of days by barge, minutes by launch/catch.
I wonder how much it would cost to build an off-shore launch facility. If they had one of those, they wouldn't need to worry about closing the road so much.
Yup. I've been advocating one of those for years. But their oil platform idea didn't seem to work.
@@TheAngryAstronaut I was thinking something more permanent, like a pier.
So now the USA is fully dependend on Boeing, Starliner, to get astronauts onto the ISS. If I were SpaceX, I would write the FAA: leak caused by space debris; that falls into the jurisdiction of FAA, to regulate orbital junk.
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I can see them stepping up the cadence at Starbase when Jeff Bozos is trying to block their ability to setup shop at KSC.
Jef who?
@@luciddreams1623 the Blue Origin guy
@CrimsonTemplar2 ah that supermarket guy who spends 80% of his time suing people.. Yeah he's a nut job.
NASA does not want that Starship launching from the Cape. ULA did make submissions against Cape Starship launches but NASA is of the same frame of mind.
Starship is still a test vehicle, prone to catastrophic failure; a fully fueled Starship explosion at the Cape would devastate pad LC39A infrastructure.
So Starship must launch Artemis 3 (and 4?) missions from Boca Chica. SpaceX proposed 40+ launches will be bitterly contested over the next months. The Greens want this fight.
Boca Chica could grind to a halt; and, by default, remove Starship from the Artemis program, leaving the landing to Blue Moon in 2029/30.
As Bill Nelson and Jim Free keep telling the Media, "We want backup!"
Would it be fair to say that the two astronauts who went up to the ISS on the Starliner are living their best lives right now? Am I right in thinking they were supposed to come home by now? If so, I doubt they will have the hectic work schedule of the other crew members?
For SpaceX to have hundreds or thousands of launches of starship per year, they are going to have to build several more, or maybe dozens more launch facilities. There are plenty of likely sites along the Texas coast that are not gonna make the tree huggers scream and are a good distance from populated areas. Also with highway access for fuel, supplies and materials.
Musk may have ditched the oil platforms for other reasons besides dropping the idea, its entirely possible those types of platforms are not suitable. Musk will probably have custom ones built later.
But you were super right about the starliner situation.
You threw the theory out there on what would happen if Starliner does not work (which it doesn't) and Falcon 9 would get grounded for whatever (unlikely) reason. Which it is now. I think you were the only one, who was very lound about that. And see who was right. YOU! Respect for that.
Personally thought, that would be overdramatizing the situation, as Russia also only has onne spacecraft to access the ISS. But that thing is extremely well understood, as Soyuz flys more or less as it is for almost 60 years.
Your videos are always straight to the point and im looking forward to your upload whenever sth happens in space news.
Interesting...
I think he's overexaggerating the Starliner hiccup, he seems to think they'll need 'rescue'.
Here's what will happen - astronauts will return in Starliner....
Starliner sux, but they'll fly it home..
I'm sure the omelet will taste GREAT!
Why don't you request videos from Blue Origin, Boeing, or any other failed company. JORDAN YOU ARE MAKING A FULL OF YOUR SELF.
IT IS JUST TOO OBVIOUS THIS NEGATIVE ANGLE YOU USE TO ANALYZE ANY OF SPACEX ROCKETS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
All those launches sound like the future. Also sounds like it will take several years of approvals..
well you were not exactly wrong on Boca being a test only facility. Elon said that himself many times to media... Obviously things have changed and SpaceX feels like they need Boca to step up. But yes, there will be a storm of monumental proportions before it will get approved.
The i hate conservatives but love space channel...
25 per year... That's more than 6 months to refuel one HLS...
They likely didn't reply because of your UFO stuff, no offence, i like it, but they likely ignore you due to this.
Not being a conspiracy nut, but this happens, even if you are not.
Hey angry why don't you look into how much the overturning of Chevron decision the deference will affect space x launches
It was probably that UFO thingy that seems to be a fan of space X .
Because Boeing never has problems . Don't believe me just ask the lobbyist that work for them .
5:12 didn't the Audubon Society pressure the USMC to stop using the "Yellow Bird" song in troop chants because it mentioned 'crushing its head'?
it's too bad that they can't go through the purchasing process to flat out privatize the are areas around these facilities. in the form of how the military does their thing. i mean wild life, privatize the roads around the facilities. i dunno buy up the rest of the cape in the one spot or what have ya.
Wouldn't the reignition at the ISS for the rescue be manned? I'm sure that SpaceX will figure it out. Will NASA say that nothing would be done without their ordering it?
Rescue??
@@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV Getting the crew back to Earth off the ISS.
@@greggweber9967 They'll just return in Starliner once they've finished puddling around with diagnostics.... :)
You’re going to throw a wrench 🔧 into space x es great work. Why are you always trying to do so? I really like your work, but sometimes you try to ruin things that should be left alone.
Omelets, yummmy!😂🎉
Elon should pull out of this area. and take his money to an area that would appresiate the capitol input:::
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Everybody needs to chill on freaking out about the EPA and the environmental stuff. They’re doing the right thing by making sure a big corporation like Spacex can’t just run buck wild. Besides, in spite of what Elon and a ton of trolls will imply to you, the delays have been on the Spacex side.
Actually people need to focus more on the 'naysayers' or in other words 'skeptics' who are trying to discourage space community which is becoming a bigger problem than many expected. (Because of politics)
Starship is for the global human population everyone else can pound sand…
Why cant the just build a new road out of the way?
Will static fires be moved to Massey's snd the trench, to help frkm havign to close the highway down?
For Ships only. Massey's flame trench is too puny to survive a Booster static fire: those will continue to be conducted exclusively at the orbital launch pad.
The astronauts that went to the ISS on Starliner are as happy as clams. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to stay up there for as long as it takes for a Starliner return, as long as the food, water, and oxygen lasts. Daily prayers are offered for "spacex to mind their own business". We're Good.
hehe
No FUD, No clicks..... :D
One minor incident after 300 launches. Nobody injured. No damage.
FAA freaks out.
Typical.
There not freaking out, they are investigating an event which was not permitted in the launch license.
When I saw the title I thought you were going to finally say that you were gonna hold Avi Loeb's feet to the FIRE and DEMAND that he show testable and peer reviewed evidence BEFORE concluding "aliens". But alas, I should have known better than ever thinking you'd do something SCINTIFICALLY proper like that. My bad!
I wouldn't worry about being wrong. You don't work there. How would you know?
The money that has been spent on Megabay 2, Massy's, the permanent Starfactory, and now Tower 2 really demonstrates Musk's commitment. I just wish he'd built Starbase somewhere else, though I'm sure he'd be harassed by envionmentalists whereevere he sent.
YT hid my last neutral comment, so I try again:
9:27 If you receive no luck with your FAA requests / FOIA, have a chat with the YT channel 'What You Haven't Seen', as that guy is very experienced with legal routes for securing video and how to defeat incorrect claims of privilege.
For referance, read the show-notes for his 14 June 2022 video, partially titled "Horizon Air Q400 (Exclusive New Footage)".
I thought they were targeting over 1000 launches per year. Thats quite difference from 25...
Those are operational goals, they're not going to get permission from the FAA for that many flights during the test phase.
not this decade... possibly not next decade, either. But they'll have multiple launch pads (several at the Cape, at least one or two at Vandenberg, and the ones at Starbase), so by the 2030s should be able to sustain annual launch cadence in the low hundreds (i.e. higher than the Falcon 9 so far).
Who is funding the law suits follow the money
I hate birds.
The woke folk Elon haters aren't going to let starship take a high cadence out of boca. The bird, dear government! Think of the poor birds.