I had a 5-6% hit in framerate when aggressively undervolting/underclocking my 3090, and it's just sipping 230W on full load (compared to its 370W stock power limit). Running 1650MHz@750mV on the core and a -200MHz VRAM clock offset. It can do a lot better than those power consumption numbers
not understanding what you're saying here, you're saying you took a hit to your frame rate when you undervolted and underclocked you're 3090, but what did you think would happen? I have a 3090 turbo and I always overclock it and over volt it and it performs better than these numbers presented here in the video. Of course that could be for many different reasons but nevertheless. @MaavBR
You'll have to wait a long time. And the prices will not please you. The 5090 will be released first and will cost £2999, it will be 40-50% faster than the 4090. Then the 5080 will come out at a price of 1499 pounds; in terms of performance, the 5080 will be = 4090. And only in 2025 they will release 5070 and 5060. 5070 will cost 899 pounds and in terms of performance 5070 = 4080 super. The 5060 will cost $499 and perform like the 4070 super. Are you very happy about these prices? Huang said, "I don't sell video cards anymore. I sell performance." And also don’t forget that AMD will not produce top-end video cards and their future 8800XT = 7900XTX. That is, the 5080 and 5090 will have no competitors. And the prices of 1499 and 2999 respectively are very likely prices.
@@youtubearemorons1 5090 is rumored at 1999, 2999 is ur ass, the 5080 is rumored for 999 as well, 5070 is going back to 499 and 5060 the usual 249, stop lying as spreading missleading info
I wouldn't touch a used 3090 due to it having dual-sided VRAM which runs hot AF. Although, I have the EVGA FTW3 3090 to be fair they did a good job with that card.... but I also have a TUF 4070ti Super and it runs way, way cooler.
Several 3090 projects had flow-through coolers and thermal pads to use the backplate to assist with cooling. Those do perform pretty well. My 3090 is all well and alive after 18 months of 24/7 ETH mining with barely any mods (it just has some raspberry pi heatsinks glued to the backplate directly on top of the VRAM modules), plus 2 years of gaming. It's not a great model either (it's the Gigabyte 3090 Turbo, which on top of the shitty blower-style cooler still had pretty bad thermal pads as all Gigabyte cards do), and never has been repasted. After 3.5 years it's starting to show some signs of wear on the thermal side (probably because the paste has dried out -- GPU Hotspot is at 20-25C higher than the core temp), so I ordered some thermal putty and PTM7950 for the core. The VRAM still does reasonably fine with the blower cooler + decent case airflow, though.
I purchased the 4070 Ti Super Ventus 2X OC back in February 2024. I got this card not just for it`s power but just as importantly, it`s size. I was able to fit it in my current case without having to buy a new one for one of the triple fan cards. There doesn`t seem to be many twin fan high end cards any more, so I was glad when I found this one. A really great card.
Not too different from me, I got mine in June and the Ventus 2X cooler is the best Ventus that MSI ever released. Old Ventus models were subpar but this one gets the job done even though it's a budget variant. I could not be happier. I don't understand people saying it's overpriced, it's not.
The people selling 3090s on facebook marketplace for more then a 4070 ti. Also raytracing is superior on the 4970 ti it can do raytracing while not taking a drastic hit on fps.
3090 still can be a better pick for some because it has more VRAM and that's useful for AI or 3D rendering stuff. But people are dumb for selling it for so much. It's not worth more than 4070 Ti even with more VRAM.
I own both as well.... The EVGA FTW3 and an MSI Suprim. EVGA did a decent job with their FTW3 3090, but the cooler on the Suprim is just a couple leagues higher. I don't think I've ever seen the Hot Spot or VRAM temps hit 70c, whereas these temps are nearly at 80c with the EVGA card. I also have the TUF 4070ti Super, and it runs cool at 30% fan speeds.
Yep, waiting for the 50, or even the 60 series by the looks for it. $800+ is not worth like 11 fps and slightly lower power consumption (I have solar so it doesn't bother me).
@@lucaterranova9321y lo más bueno es el corto de cerebro éste que hizo el video en 1440p y no agregó las pruebas en 4k, que es lo que a todo el mundo le interesa. Tremendo payaso 😂.
Remember you could double fps on the 3090 using frame generation mod on supported games, and it works just as intentded, used it on my 3070 on Silent Hil 2 Remake and it literally doubled my fps. just saying.
@sungchoi1415 you pay more money to get frame generation on 40 series while you could get it for free for your high end 30 series gpu and get better results.
which is better for 4k gaming a 3080ti or a 4070 super , every where I see people keep saying that the 3080ti is better for 4k due to the 384-bit memory , is it true ?
The problem with this video is that it gives the advantage to the rtx 4070 ti super, because it handles 1440p better than the 3090, while the 3090 has a large advantage, in 4k and 8k, it exploits not even 100% the 3090, it would have been necessary to do these 3 resolutions, I'm sorry to say that, but if it's to do a test on a only resolution or a card with advantage it becomes useless
@ehtasam2080 your just wrong dude. Just because a card uses less power doesn't mean their "sacrificing fps." It's literally just more efficient. It can outperform previous gen top tier and consume less power while doing it, what's so bad about that?
@@arielcabrera704 edición, no solo son jueguitos en la vida , ves una diferencia abismal ? Jugando. No le veo el sentido de vender una 3090 para comprar una 4070ti s , cuBdo te recortan el vram , bus y los cuda
@@lucaterranova9321 Tienes razón, pero realmente me llama la atención el consumo, no sé como lo mires pero realmente es algo de tener en cuenta. y gracias por la respuesta.
@@lucaterranova9321 Estamos viendo "jueguitos", no edición acá. Y la 4070 ti super se mea encima de todos los VRAM de la 3090, consumiendo menos y levantando menos temperatura. Para alguien que ya posea una 3090, no tendría sentido el upgrade, pero para alguien que no posea ninguna de las dos, claramente la 4070 ti super es la mejor opción. Y si es de una serie XX70 obviamente no va a tener los mismos vram que una XX90 tope de gama, genio
Power and Heat reduction w/ the 4000 series was also a nice added bonus. I'm a bit skeptical we are going to see such a leap in performance w/ 5000 as we saw from 3000 to 4000 but I guess we'll see. I kinda felt the 4090 was the next 1080 Ti outside of the price of coarse.
I have RTX 3090 24GB Founder edition - Intel Core i5-13600K - GIGABYTE B760 GAMING X - DDR5 Corsair Vengeance - 32 Go (2 x 16 Go) 6000 MHz - CAS 36 - Silicon Power XS70 7300Mo/s 4 to - Thermaltake Toughpower GF 850W 7 2K monitor 1440p Ghost of Tsushima I have : 110-120fps ultra settings Red Dead Redemption 2 : 100-120fps ultra settings Until Dawn : 110-120fps ultra settings Black Myth Wukong : 80-95 fps ultra settings (whit dlss quality 100%) ray tracing medium The Last of Us Part I : 100-110fps ultra settings SILENT HILL 2 Remake : 80-90fps ultra settings Star Wars Outlaws : 60fps (city) - AVG out of city : 75-80fps ultra settings (high ray tracing) quality dlss Assassin's Creed Valhalla : 120-130fps ultra settings Assassin's Creed Mirage : +130 fps ultra settings Far Cry 6 : +120fps ultra settings Horizon Forbidden West : +110fps ultra settings Hogwarts Legacy : +100fps ultra settings Forza Horizon 5 : +130fps ultra settings The Witcher.3 Wild Hunt Complete Edition : +100fps ultra settings If you want like me have more than 120fps in 2k ultra you need install nvngx_dlss 3.7 + nvngx_dlssd 3.7 + nvngx_dlssg 3.7 for all supported game individual installation ! Nvidia block your framerate for new games like Black Myth Wukong , Outlaws , Until Dawn etc ... RTX 3090 24GB is in reality like RTX 4070Ti Super maybe little better ! Try what I said you will see real differences
no way this is the performance of a 3090, i use a 3090 on cyberpunk with these same exact settings and I'm like 10 fps lower, im using a 5800x so doubt im bottlenecked
3090 and 3090 ti were both scams. Negligable performance uplift and 12 gigabytes of extra vram for 300-800 dollars more. Sure, they weren't exactly "made with gamers in mind" but nvidia could 100% add more performance, they just maximized profit (which I can respect but still)
@@m8x425well choosing 3080ti instead of 3080 was reasonable because of those 10 only gb vram. Which was not enough. But 3090/3090ti - ti version wins only if it costs the same as the original 3090 or just a little bit more
Games :
Senua's Saga Hellblade II - 0:06
Cyberpunk 2077 - 1:02
Resident Evil 4 - 2:07
Horizon Forbidden West - 3:03
Forza Horizon 5 - 4:08
Ghost of Tsushima - 5:10
Alan Wake 2 - 6:11
Starfield - 7:10
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 8:09
Hogwarts Legacy - 9:12
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/3vNwtSK
GeForce RTX 3090 24GB - bit.ly/3kNDiZM
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
Low CPU temperature, what cooler are you using?
My processor is 5800x3d and cooler Deepcool AS500, the temperature in games is 80-90 degrees
4070 ti super should of been the actual 4070
What a dumb comment, just say you are poor
4070 ti super is the goat at his price
The power consumption of 3090 is crazy.
I had a 5-6% hit in framerate when aggressively undervolting/underclocking my 3090, and it's just sipping 230W on full load (compared to its 370W stock power limit). Running 1650MHz@750mV on the core and a -200MHz VRAM clock offset. It can do a lot better than those power consumption numbers
@@MaavBRdon’t forget the massive difference in temps too after undervolting… I highly recommend every person to do so
nothing an undervolt and fancurve cant fix on this thing bud.
not understanding what you're saying here, you're saying you took a hit to your frame rate when you undervolted and underclocked you're 3090, but what did you think would happen? I have a 3090 turbo and I always overclock it and over volt it and it performs better than these numbers presented here in the video. Of course that could be for many different reasons but nevertheless. @MaavBR
More FPS and less power usage wish it wasnt 800 quid though, gonna stick with my 3090 until the 5xxx cards come out.
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You'll have to wait a long time. And the prices will not please you. The 5090 will be released first and will cost £2999, it will be 40-50% faster than the 4090.
Then the 5080 will come out at a price of 1499 pounds; in terms of performance, the 5080 will be = 4090.
And only in 2025 they will release 5070 and 5060. 5070 will cost 899 pounds and in terms of performance 5070 = 4080 super.
The 5060 will cost $499 and perform like the 4070 super.
Are you very happy about these prices?
Huang said, "I don't sell video cards anymore. I sell performance." And also don’t forget that AMD will not produce top-end video cards and their future 8800XT = 7900XTX. That is, the 5080 and 5090 will have no competitors. And the prices of 1499 and 2999 respectively are very likely prices.
3090 is a beast🔥🔥
@@youtubearemorons1 5090 is rumored at 1999, 2999 is ur ass, the 5080 is rumored for 999 as well, 5070 is going back to 499 and 5060 the usual 249, stop lying as spreading missleading info
Get an used one
I wouldn't touch a used 3090 due to it having dual-sided VRAM which runs hot AF. Although, I have the EVGA FTW3 3090 to be fair they did a good job with that card.... but I also have a TUF 4070ti Super and it runs way, way cooler.
I have the same card (rtx 3090 evga) my v-ram gets hott af 😅 but damn it runs great…!
I get today used dell oem 3090 for 400$ i hope she survive
Several 3090 projects had flow-through coolers and thermal pads to use the backplate to assist with cooling. Those do perform pretty well.
My 3090 is all well and alive after 18 months of 24/7 ETH mining with barely any mods (it just has some raspberry pi heatsinks glued to the backplate directly on top of the VRAM modules), plus 2 years of gaming. It's not a great model either (it's the Gigabyte 3090 Turbo, which on top of the shitty blower-style cooler still had pretty bad thermal pads as all Gigabyte cards do), and never has been repasted.
After 3.5 years it's starting to show some signs of wear on the thermal side (probably because the paste has dried out -- GPU Hotspot is at 20-25C higher than the core temp), so I ordered some thermal putty and PTM7950 for the core. The VRAM still does reasonably fine with the blower cooler + decent case airflow, though.
my 4070ti super running COD Warzone 4k, Fps limit is 115(i have 120hz oled 65" tv), almost full settings and my temp is 65- 70c.
OMG I spent nearly 1700$ for my gpu to see this in 2024 😢 feels so bad for my 3090
The guy is using g frame generation its bullshit number goes up but you get input lag and worse image.
Thats why you never pay top dollar for graphics cards, ALL become out of date after 1-2 years, many spend the money just to show off to their mates.
@@AMRsti93 NO, im have 3090 and 4070ti super... in native resolution 4070ti super still more better from 3090
@@AMRsti93nah this is probably native
Overclock it rtx 4070 ti super is waste
I purchased the 4070 Ti Super Ventus 2X OC back in February 2024. I got this card not just for it`s power but just as importantly, it`s size. I was able to fit it in my current case without having to buy a new one for one of the triple fan cards. There doesn`t seem to be many twin fan high end cards any more, so I was glad when I found this one. A really great card.
Not too different from me, I got mine in June and the Ventus 2X cooler is the best Ventus that MSI ever released. Old Ventus models were subpar but this one gets the job done even though it's a budget variant. I could not be happier. I don't understand people saying it's overpriced, it's not.
thanks for thorough comparison with meaningful settings. So, much of that vram just sits useless...
Yeah, 16GB will be more than enough for anything until at least 2026.
for gaming yeah until 2026 atleast.. for productivity hell no 😂
@@wesperitiochannel2309 This is a gaming channel, so...
That's 20 Percent more performances with 20 percent less power draw !
and half the price
5070ti super will match 4090 for $800
The people selling 3090s on facebook marketplace for more then a 4070 ti. Also raytracing is superior on the 4970 ti it can do raytracing while not taking a drastic hit on fps.
3090 still can be a better pick for some because it has more VRAM and that's useful for AI or 3D rendering stuff. But people are dumb for selling it for so much. It's not worth more than 4070 Ti even with more VRAM.
Nice Video!!
is this between 3090 no upscaling (raw power) and 4070 ti S with DLSS ? Or is it DLSS on for both the cards?
I would imagine no dlss on either, even the regular 4070ti can compete with the 3090.
No dlss for both cards
It was on in the settings.@@Ethan-ly9tf
@@EpicBunty for like 2 of the 10 games. My bad.
I have a 3090 and 4090 and the 4090 runs 20c+ cooler on the core and memory. The 4090 isn't a hot card, it also dwarfs the 3090 in size.
I own both as well.... The EVGA FTW3 and an MSI Suprim. EVGA did a decent job with their FTW3 3090, but the cooler on the Suprim is just a couple leagues higher. I don't think I've ever seen the Hot Spot or VRAM temps hit 70c, whereas these temps are nearly at 80c with the EVGA card. I also have the TUF 4070ti Super, and it runs cool at 30% fan speeds.
Power connect didn't melted yet?
I have 4070 ti s😊
same)
@@hikidara enjoy!
I'm very interested in an Inno3d 4070TS model, is it worth it? What do you think?
Yep, waiting for the 50, or even the 60 series by the looks for it. $800+ is not worth like 11 fps and slightly lower power consumption (I have solar so it doesn't bother me).
4070 ti super is much better
Not, only that... The 3090 was sold for 3/4K during the pandemic 😂
puff si por 10fps lol , la vram tambien es buena , a el bus tambien . XD
@@lucaterranova9321y lo más bueno es el corto de cerebro éste que hizo el video en 1440p y no agregó las pruebas en 4k, que es lo que a todo el mundo le interesa. Tremendo payaso 😂.
Not really. OC the 3090 and they're neck and neck lol.
Yeah then check the power draw too without even oc 3090 is worse at power draw@@Ouroboross-
Remember you could double fps on the 3090 using frame generation mod on supported games, and it works just as intentded, used it on my 3070 on Silent Hil 2 Remake and it literally doubled my fps. just saying.
Yeah but you also could do it on the 4070ti S too and get more fps
@sungchoi1415 you pay more money to get frame generation on 40 series while you could get it for free for your high end 30 series gpu and get better results.
Frame generation only ganenerate fake frames and it looks jittery everytime you move the camera fast
which is better for 4k gaming a 3080ti or a 4070 super , every where I see people keep saying that the 3080ti is better for 4k due to the 384-bit memory , is it true ?
Nah, both are fine.
yep, its true, at the moment 3080ti gonna be faster for 4k, in other resolution like 1080 or 1440 they perform same or 4070s is a bit better
Seguilo mirando al genio éste que no hizo las pruebas en 4k que todo el mundo quiere.
even 4070 super beat 3090 in games, raytracing, vray, blender and others.
even in brute force, since in the video there are 4 games that did not have RT and DLSS
Has anyone tried comparison for heavily modded Skyrim? 4k graphics, etc. See if that 24GB of RAM would make the difference...
The problem with this video is that it gives the advantage to the rtx 4070 ti super, because it handles 1440p better than the 3090, while the 3090 has a large advantage, in 4k and 8k, it exploits not even 100% the 3090, it would have been necessary to do these 3 resolutions, I'm sorry to say that, but if it's to do a test on a only resolution or a card with advantage it becomes useless
Pretty normal leap right? Old high end vs new midrange. 4 years separate.
One of the best cards available is not "midrange"
Lol 800$ is not mid range for the god sake. This is 100 more expensive than 3080 msrp
It's all relative. Nvidia places their 70's series always under midrange category.
Dude. Its Nvidia. They're always overpriced. Every generation gpu's they price their cards higher. 80's and 90's in Nvidia cards are High end
@ehtasam2080 your just wrong dude. Just because a card uses less power doesn't mean their "sacrificing fps." It's literally just more efficient. It can outperform previous gen top tier and consume less power while doing it, what's so bad about that?
the 4070 uses the frame generator?
No
Nah it's raw performance without any upscaling tricks
NO, he has FG turned off.
@@ivb4 FG is off, but he used DLSS in Cyberpunk for both (without FG on though)
I don't know what to say, but i wanted to comment it ^^
In some games you turned on DLSS Quality but in other games you played on Native DLAA...why this descrimination huh🤨
well, but the result is the same, the RTX 4070 Ti Super has a lot of power 🤔
Maybe not all the games have DLSS
prefiero la 3090 por la vram y ademas muhcos mod de fg hay ahora
Podrías decirme en que te sería útil los 24gb de la 3090?
@@arielcabrera704 edición, no solo son jueguitos en la vida , ves una diferencia abismal ? Jugando. No le veo el sentido de vender una 3090 para comprar una 4070ti s , cuBdo te recortan el vram , bus y los cuda
@@lucaterranova9321 cambie mi 3090 por una 4070 ti super , llamale magia pero renderiza en autocad y simulo fluidos un 20 % mas rapido
@@lucaterranova9321 Tienes razón, pero realmente me llama la atención el consumo, no sé como lo mires pero realmente es algo de tener en cuenta.
y gracias por la respuesta.
@@lucaterranova9321 Estamos viendo "jueguitos", no edición acá. Y la 4070 ti super se mea encima de todos los VRAM de la 3090, consumiendo menos y levantando menos temperatura.
Para alguien que ya posea una 3090, no tendría sentido el upgrade, pero para alguien que no posea ninguna de las dos, claramente la 4070 ti super es la mejor opción.
Y si es de una serie XX70 obviamente no va a tener los mismos vram que una XX90 tope de gama, genio
Power and Heat reduction w/ the 4000 series was also a nice added bonus. I'm a bit skeptical we are going to see such a leap in performance w/ 5000 as we saw from 3000 to 4000 but I guess we'll see. I kinda felt the 4090 was the next 1080 Ti outside of the price of coarse.
Yeah. That 10% "leap" for 4060 was huge 😂😂😂.
Delusional nvidia fanboy, why do you always justify this stupid green trash gpus i cant understand.
How is your cpu usage is low, mine is 100%
What CPU do you have?
anything above 80% and you are probably CPU bottlenecked... like me... You're probably not using your GPU to its full potential...
@@Darkhalo314 ryzen 7 5800x3d 3090 is a good combo
@@genlongtsang1093And what resolution you play on? If it's too low the GPU will drag the CPU down.
@@justsayno1734 4k
Why don't open fg not fair
I have RTX 3090 24GB Founder edition - Intel Core i5-13600K - GIGABYTE B760 GAMING X - DDR5 Corsair Vengeance - 32 Go (2 x 16 Go) 6000 MHz - CAS 36 - Silicon Power XS70 7300Mo/s 4 to - Thermaltake Toughpower GF 850W
7
2K monitor 1440p
Ghost of Tsushima I have : 110-120fps ultra settings
Red Dead Redemption 2 : 100-120fps ultra settings
Until Dawn : 110-120fps ultra settings
Black Myth Wukong : 80-95 fps ultra settings (whit dlss quality 100%) ray tracing medium
The Last of Us Part I : 100-110fps ultra settings
SILENT HILL 2 Remake : 80-90fps ultra settings
Star Wars Outlaws : 60fps (city) - AVG out of city : 75-80fps ultra settings (high ray tracing) quality dlss
Assassin's Creed Valhalla : 120-130fps ultra settings
Assassin's Creed Mirage : +130 fps ultra settings
Far Cry 6 : +120fps ultra settings
Horizon Forbidden West : +110fps ultra settings
Hogwarts Legacy : +100fps ultra settings
Forza Horizon 5 : +130fps ultra settings
The Witcher.3 Wild Hunt Complete Edition : +100fps ultra settings
If you want like me have more than 120fps in 2k ultra you need install nvngx_dlss 3.7 + nvngx_dlssd 3.7 + nvngx_dlssg 3.7 for all supported game individual installation ! Nvidia block your framerate for new games like Black Myth Wukong , Outlaws , Until Dawn etc ... RTX 3090 24GB is in reality like RTX 4070Ti Super maybe little better ! Try what I said you will see real differences
Como?!
Why the one on the right is always better
And people still complain abt vram in 50 series cards 🤣🤣
340€ for Rtx 3090 oc is shut up and take my money 😅
no way this is the performance of a 3090, i use a 3090 on cyberpunk with these same exact settings and I'm like 10 fps lower, im using a 5800x so doubt im bottlenecked
bruh amd expo amd 7800x3d makes that differenxe
It is your cpu and I’m sure your ram is ddr4 16 gb lol smh 🤦
Would have been more fair compared to the 3090Ti
3090 ti is just 5 fps more than 3090 most the time
@@JrPazSoldan Why do you talk in fps? fps doesnt mean anything, percent does
3090 and 3090 ti were both scams. Negligable performance uplift and 12 gigabytes of extra vram for 300-800 dollars more. Sure, they weren't exactly "made with gamers in mind" but nvidia could 100% add more performance, they just maximized profit (which I can respect but still)
@@Efsaaneh by that logic, the 3080ti was also a scam, just sayin
@@m8x425well choosing 3080ti instead of 3080 was reasonable because of those 10 only gb vram. Which was not enough. But 3090/3090ti - ti version wins only if it costs the same as the original 3090 or just a little bit more
4k plizz ahí donde la 4070ti s empieza a toser por su poca vram 😂😂😂😂😂
Anybody want my 3080 12gb for 400 or 4070ti ventus 2x for 600 I have pics and video of both
yea hit me up
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@@zfacersane272 i still got the 80
@@zfacersane272i got 3080 still
tem RE4 Remake tem like
performance 3090 = 4090 Super
thanks
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Anybody want my 3080 12gb for 400 or 4070ti ventus 2x for 600 I have pics and video of both