A Rant On PSA's "Grader Notes" Announcement... They MUST Do Better!!
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- PSA has been talking about "grader notes" for over a year. Finally, they roll out their grader notes in a video announcement from the President of PSA. In my opinion, it's an epic fail. They are not protecting the future buyers and they continue to take one step forward before two steps back. I believe it's important to continue to hold PSA accountable and hold their feet to the fire, to ensure they make improvements. With their parent company now owning SGC, the only way they're going to improve, is if the collecting community demands it.
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It’s like purchasing a home inspection but being legally prohibited from sharing the results with the buyer. It seems like an untenable position by PSA to keep these notes private.
Perfect analogy.
The trained eye 😂😂😂
They do what they want. They have 90% of the grading market. They don't have to do anything. Anything they give to their customers, they are giving on their own terms. They care about money, not their customers, and they show us that almost every day. Name a company that has 90% percent of a market and provides amazing services to their customers.
until people get fed up. vote w your money
@@hitmanskid-td4pg Apple
Well said.
Notes only for Express ($130) and up
Yeah....more evidence that it's another money grab.
Graig, you hit it out of the park with this one. It’s just an odd, intentional move for PSA to put that type of restriction on the notes. As always, $ talks so it will need to be the consumer that forces change.
I appreciate that.
Probably the best video I've watched in years. PSA is the wizard behind the curtain. Full transparency would be good for the hobby but not their bottom line.
What does this do to all previously graded cards on the market that have no notes?
Well done sir, appreciate the time you put into this.
Good thing I’ve been training my eyes for years. I knew being a tennis chair umpire would pay off eventually
LOL. That's hilarious.
Consistent grading with every card , from vintage to 80's and 90's and morden card's.
Have people do vintage grade vintage and don't mix graders grading card's they haven't been training on. Minimum wage in California is 20 dollars
Minimum wage for fast food workers is $20....not for other industries.
Just PSAs way of getting even more money from us. Grader notes should be added with every purchase. This will backfire big time for those 2nd buyers. I'm becoming a bigger fan of SGC with each PSA announcement. Great video as always, Graig!
Appreciate it.
The loudest voice, in my opinion, is to not submit anymore cards to them. They are tripling down on stupid and anyone who thinks PSA is "The Gold Standard" needs to read the policies and guarantees of PSA. I have seen and heard too much about them and from them to trust them and their "trained eye." They were possibly good at some point in the past, but have proven themselves to be quite inept. They haven't proven anything regarding their accusations that "card cleaning" reverses itself while in their slabs nor that they can detect it without watching a video of someone doing it. They have declared themselves to be the best and way too many people just believe them. There is ZERO evidence to prove their claims. Stop using them and they will have to actually fix their problems in order to try and regain trust in the hobby.
NFT > physical.
@@hitmanskid-td4pg I have already started my boycot of PSA 3 months a ago.
@@Tim.K.1976 Strength in numbers!!! We as a community need to stand strong with withholding money going to them for a substantial amount of time. Several months. Hit them where it hurts, in the bank account. I haven't submitted to them since Nov. And won't til they change their business practices. Transparency!!! To all. Their hiding behind their name and reputation of resale. Notice it too, that the grader notes are for only the upper tiered submission tiers. Shady.....
I completely agree that the loudest voice is submitting vs not submitting.
Hi, first time commenting on your videos. I think you're analysis on the grading was spot on. And you've thought of angles on grading that did not occur to me. Thank you
Appreciate you taking the time to listen/watch and comment.
You might get grader notes if they ever get the card back to you with the added time writing grader notes . I can imagine how more inefficient the process will be adding to the time it takes to get your cards graded.. It's already bad.
Or, they could finally hire more people by raising the pay for graders. Would that increase prices? Maybe...but with what they charge, it shouldn't.
First they say the grade you get depends on the grader who grades it, now this, when are people going to realize PSA is throwing it's customers crumbs. They will do as little as possible. The only way to get PSA to change is stop using them. The only thing company understand is the bottom line
I collect raw so this doesn't concern me. I am retired and can spot corporate BS when I see it, because i was a eye witness to it for over forty years.
Yeah. Pretty easy to spot some strange stuff going on here.
Sounds to me that PSA is playing CYA with this announcement regarding grader notes, but by tying the grader notes to only the person who submitted the card does nothing to help future buyers.
CYA is certainly a big chunk of it.
Do you know what this does? It allows unscrupulous submitters to know the flaw so they can clean or fix it and resubmit and no future buyer will know. PSA always empowers the scammers. Just like the PWCC scam they got caught doing.
Exactly!!!! It HELPS the flipper and hurts the long term collector. Its pathetic!!
Or the trimmed Wagner scam.
Hi Graig. Excellent video on PSA and their grading policy, news and updates. Grading has become more greyer everyday, so unfortunate.Thanks for sharing For sharing my friend.
I feel we have to continue to press them to get more transparency.
When are they going to learn that TRANSPARENCY is what people want. Having to agree to NOT share their notes is the exact opposite of what we want as collectors. Lunacy!
I totally agree.
Just want to play devils advocate. Won’t providing notes to potential buyers benefit flippers?
If I am a buyer and see a psa 9 for sale for $50. And I get the notes as to why it’s a 9. Why wouldn’t I buy the card. Fix the problems, get it graded for a 10 and flip it for hundreds or thousands. I could make a living doing this.
Yep.
I agree.
Love your content and this was your best by a mile. So authentic and accurate.
Thanks!!
I'm curious how this I'd going to work for those who use a group submitter to submit their cards. Will only that group submitter know the grader notes and the person/owner that will actually receive the cards back will also be left in the dark?
I believe the notes can be shared but not published.
@MidLifeCards It might depend on who PSA is identifying to be the customer. Their T's & C's state: "Customer will have no rights to use any of the Grader Notes except for Customer’s personal use..." I'm sure they will roll out some clarifications as things move along.
Very curious how they are treating group submitters. So if I own a card, and I decide to submit to PSA, therefore making me the submitter, but I send it through a submission company, do I get to see my own grader notes? Or are those legally only for the company who submitted my card?
Yes...they can be shared but not published.
And...just an FYI CGC's guarantee protects the submitter and the buyer
That's good.
Hard to argue with your points here, Graig. Also, you have to spend at least $99 per card just to get notes like "front, discoloration"?
LOL. So true.
Preach, Graig.... One vote for public grader notes here.
Public grader notes is a no brainer.
Also, why do they basically get a commission for grading the card I sent them? They charge me based on value! Why? I want them to explain to us why! We know why, it’s because they can and people keep on sending cards to them. It’s the biggest racket I have ever seen.
I am 50 year collector and also a coin collector. I agree 100%, To get a premium for the grading process if the item is more valuable is absurd and ludicrous. What other industry would stand for such a thing? It is just extortion. If they were adding some additional service or selling the card for you that would be different. But to just provide the grading should be a flat fee.
@@tgkoski306exactly!! They say it’s an extra charge for “insurance” on an expensive card! 😂 What a joke!
They claim it's based on their guarantee/insurance.
My guess is this. In the future, it will be an add on pay feature for even the lowest level. Once they charge for that, then maybe it will be available to all? Who knows, I just enjoy your content and roll with whatever the hobby throws at us and enjoy it the best I can.
Very possible. Revenue seems to be behind everything.
Craig, I just had to leave a 2nd comment. I wanted to say, this may be the finest video you’ve ever done. Truly a GREAT job calling out what needs to be said. Congratulations !!!
Thanks Don. I appreciate it.
It's a secret formula Graig. If they give too many details it will enlighten us plebeians too much, and will take power away from their pricing ability, upcharging, and will increase our ability to make decision on whether to submit and who to submit to.
It's like KFC's secret recipe.
@@MidLifeCards SSSHHHHHH don't tell anyone
You make too much sense. Graders have trained eyes 😂 😢
LOL. I can't believe they expect us to just "trust" them.....good grief.
@@MidLifeCardsI've cracked a 4 of a Eddie Murray rookie card and sent back in and it got a 8 , explain that to me PSA ,now I crack and send to sgc ,I'm very happy with sgc grading
Cgc comics have notes …
I know....and they're not private to only the submitter.
Do you think having to provide grader notes will cause graders to put out more 10s since those don't need notes (especially if they end up having notes for all service levels)? The graders will crank out way more cards per hour if they don't have to produce as many notes. A borderline 9/10 might be more likely to get a 10. We'll see.
the number of cards submitted at Express or higher is very small I would guess, so time isn't really an issue, imo -- I also don't think grader notes will ever make it to the lower levels...now you are talking a million cards a month, and the time to have notes for all of those cards would add a good deal of time...
That's a REALLY interesting question.
The best way to shoot PSA reaction videos is immediately after they make an announcement! 😂 This might be your best work! 🍿 10:21 Your hat on top of your head is classic, completely unhinged 😂 PSA takes 1 step forward and 3 steps back! Thanks PSA- if someone pays $99 for 1 card to be graded, you get added value of grader notes BUT you need to keep top secret, don’t even tell your wife or PSA will sue you!!!!
LOL....bwahahahaha
This should be the comment featured at the top of the video, completely unhinged!
@@ACD1994 Thanks Andrew 🤣
Graig, I generally agree the notes should be attached to the Cert in their database. That prevents someone from cracking, fixing, cleaning and resubmitting. But I also believe the notes will be so general they will be useless in most cases and will drive up prices. I prefer sub-grades.
You're probably right.
PSA has not done a revision of their prices since 2/7/2024! What up with that?
They're getting over 1 million submissions per month. Why would they drop the price?
And how often are the trainers retrained? What is the frequency and type of testing or certification? How about quality control. Who is verifying the trained eye is not having a bad day (dry eyes?, hangover?) or maybe they have forgotten their training (perishable skills) In my opinion grading is not enlightening... it is supposed to be an impartial science(ish) process (thus the training to a standard) and I want to also see the exact process. What about the tools used? Lighting? Magnification? Table color? Is that a smudge on my card or a dead fly on the magnifying loop? How do they handle and store cards prior to grading? I agree that this PSA public service announcement (PSA's PSA?) lacks substance and raises more questions about it. It makes me wonder what they are hiding....
These are great questions. I wish they shared this info with us.
Graig,
Thank you for bringing this information to our community. It makes perfect sense why PSA doesn't want to share grader notes. "Hiding" grader notes from the public reflects PSA's attempt to downplay the actual subjectivity involved in the grading process. Once people start comparing notes and grades the grading inconsistencies will be documented. Ultimately this will push the grading industry into using more AI. Time to see the wizard behind the curtain.
Oz doesn't want you to see.
Great stuff Graig 👊👊🔥🔥
Thanks my friend.
Trading card flaws. SMH
LOL.... It's wild!!
The fact that the grader notes are a secret is ridiculous. If you can't smell a rat then its time for an olfactory check.
Lol
I have to keep ranting too. That Mays 1958, in a grade of 5, I'd bet one million dollars or more and give odds, that if that same card was sent in 4 different times, it would not get the same grade. That's my biggest concern, because again, it's like gambling, you might get a good grade, you might not. You might get lucky and get a grade better than it should or worse.
There are times a card will over grade. That's true.
"From Express level and above." So Bulk and other economy levels don't get grader notes, apparently. What happens if you do share the notes with your buyer? How can PSA enforce this?
Not sure.
Excellent questions!
I wish they'd come on and answer them.
Aside from your points I’d also like to ask that $17/hour grader why there’s no slabbing standard. I’ve seen standard size cards in oversized slabs. I’ve seen the same size cards in multiple different sized slabs or different sized boarders within the slabs. There’s absolutely NO standard with PSA. And now I’ve seen SGC do the same stuff. And I moved away from PSA years ago because SGC actually had a standard. But not anymore.
Good points.
The only person getting trained by PSA is the customer
LOL. That's hilarious.
Graig, I totally agree - public grader’s notes make complete sense, and would only help to foster transparency and trust. Great take - hopefully they are listening… 👂
I'm too small for them to listen to me...but this is a grassroots effort.
Totally agree 👍🏻
Great minds think alike.
Excellent video. What a bunch of nonsense this grading industry has turned into.
It's definitely frustrating.
"What the trained eye sees" - lol I am sorry but grading still comes down to one man's opinion on that day. For $17/hr I cant imagine many of these new graders are "experts" at what they do.
Exactly.
Hey Graig it sounds like PSA is doing a low rent reaction video with grader's notes implementation lacking foresight as well as expending research & development as a typical so-called grader is usually barely 20 years old if that and I've heard through the grapevine the get one minute each to grade every card assigned to them. Having to break down grader's notes slows down the grading process and also the notes in of themselves is suspect by allowing only the grader to see it. There really needs to be some independent accountability such as ushering in PSA and other graders into the ISO audit process that's used for other companies that want to be a player on the world's stage as being credible and with tight standards mandatory to do business with other ISO certified companies. This is the best I can come up with short of government oversight for the hobby in general.
It would slow things down, for sure. But, hiring more graders would speed it back up.
if everyone got their cards authenticated only (for autos and true authenticity) no actual grades wouldn't that put the value back onto the buyer? What are you willing to pay for this eye appealed card. It's up to you and the seller once again to determine the price. It's authentic and preserved in a slab. Card grade doesn't matter. What are you willing to pay for it, or if it's going into your PC, it's a legit card. Not trimmed, cleaned, etc...
True. But, it's like the disclosures when buying a house....the owner should share what they know....shouldn't they?
I think this is a good start, but that the policy is rather odd
Agreed.
You just did an episode on Wednesday's (Q and A) with comparisons between like graded cards.... Those are "professional" graders grading those cards the exact same?? Professional??? What definition are they using for "professional"? We need full transparency. Ripped the band-aid off and show us, unless you know that you are hiding things (which they are).. Words... individual words have meaning. Break down Nat's sentences and decipher what he is actually saying. I truly hope that he doesn't actually believe them. If he does, how can anyone trust the company he represents?? Just a question. Grader notes are only for express service and the upper tiers. Not Bulk or specials.🤣🤣
AGree...
PSA is a cash cow joke. THEY KNOW if someone want's to sell a card and make money, they NEED to have it graded in a high grade. That's why they gouge somebody if it's a high dollar card. AND 2 cards that look identical and one is a 9 and one is a 10, human element is involved. If somebody is pissed off that day, the card holder isn't gonna get a 10. There a lot of so called "experts" or "professionals" out there. P.S. No wonder it's expensive as hell in California but that's a different argument.
That's true.
When is the Nat Turner or Ryan Hoge interview? I can't wait to see them interviewed by someone who might ask hard questions instead of the softballs we have seen.
They won't be on the channel after this rant. Lol.
I don't think they'll come on my channel for an interview or be sending me a Christmas card.....after this.
Only the "Forever Owner" of the card can see the Graders notes!
But....why?
I agree 100% with everything Graig said.
1st question I have is are notes shared w/ card owners who used a bulk submitter. Need to check the fine print again.
Bottom line is PSA should include the notes permanently in the cert look-up. They def don’t want future owners to question grader notes.
Grader notes wouldn’t even really be needed if PSA just removed some of their 8 logos on the flip to display subgrades.
@@ClementeCollector iOS auto correct error. Missed it
@@TJ_Is_Online I was just messing TJ, my phone does the same thing
I believe notes can be shared, but can't be published.
@@MidLifeCards Ryan Hoge from PSA made a quick online comment the other day. He said notes may be shared on social media. 🤦. PSA is making up the rules as they go.
Doing everything possible to limit the damage they will face when under-graded cards are cracked & slabbed w/ a better grade.
This is all irrelevant for a good percentage of the hobby, including me. Grader’s notes are only for the express level service and higher. The few orders I ever submit are at the cheapest possible service level, so if I want graders notes, I’ll just submit to TAG. 😂😂😂
I am hopeful TAG will grade vintage cards, but it's more likely once more collectors catch on, and see their company as a viable option, just will be bought like SGC, too.
@@ACD1994 Two excellent points! I agree on both counts. TAG not being to grade older cards only hurts them presently. Their graded card reports are absolutely incredible. I’ve never used TAG before, but If I cared about grader’s notes, I would go with them for the most complete, comprehensive report card in existence. I share your opinion that it feels like TAG is positioning themselves to be acquired by another larger. company. Time will tell!
I hope TAG forces other companies to improve.
You couldn’t be more wrong. PSA isn’t responsible for “future customers” of a card. Their customer (the person keeping them
In business) is the person paying for the submission. They have no duty to provide any information to future owners.
It’s like a rock band prohibiting concertgoers from taping and/or filming their concerts for resale
I certainly appreciate this comment very much. The problem with this, however, is that PSA talks repeatedly about the PSA guarantee. This, is one of their big selling points as why they're the best. This is done to protect future customers. So, it seems as if they're selling us on the "future customers" argument.
The only sense i can see is they dont want people new to the industry thinking too much about the nuance of card condition.. doing so might make too many people realize you can evaluate a card on your own and that makes slabs less relevant.
LOL There is that.
It all sounds like they are taking the pages of big government and large corporations hand book, and applying it to the card hobby. 😂🤦♂️ The trained eye comment is what got to me the most. I can’t help not being sarcastic about this. It’s an insult to any serious collector. They want to be the Great Oz. But we know they are only the man behind the curtain. 😂
Precisely.
I have to disagree with your frustration on the policy.
If we take a step back. Notes are something that submitters have been clamoring for. Every reveal video you’ve ever seen has a card or several where the host is lamenting a grade wondering where it went wrong. Now they’ll have an answer.
As someone buying after the fact, the grade is the grade and I can actually look at the card and decide if I want it or not. At that point it is less important.
As far as the publicity policy on the notes. It is because no subjective process, even with objective criteria can stand up to that scrutiny. You would have entire channels comparing two similar cards with different notes and things of that nature. It’s pretty simple to understand where they are coming from.
In short, it is something extra at no extra cost that we didn’t have before.
Its dishonest, and if you think this cost won't be passed on to the consumer soon you should take a class in basic Economics.
@@jude999how is it dishonest? From an organizational standpoint it is completely understandable for the reason I mentioned. It will never hold up to scrutiny even with objective methods. Opens them up to attacks, maybe even liability.
I have an MBA thank you so I’m quite familiar with economics. At this point the prices are the same and it is an extra feature. That is all I am saying. Why so hostile? You okay?
I appreciate this perspective, but still don't understand why the information needs to be secret and can't be published. I guess my question is.... "why can't it be published?"
They run PSA like the Federal Government. Exactly how are they going to track what you share or don't share? And what is the punishment?
Our vote is where we spend our money. Until people go elsewhere, nothing will change.
It's about money. If you don't know the issue or that it's been submitted a 100 x, PSA will get more money.
If someone knows, it may not be resubmitted.
All about the $$$$
True.
Welcome to the World of micro-enlightenment! 🤔🤔🤔
LOL....and micro wrinkles.
Top Secret Transparency! Yay!
LOL. Like the Wizard of Oz.
Great take, Graig! Loved this rant and the many great points you make. It sure does seem that PSA is naive and clueless at times. They should hire you!
They should hire me to be their PR guy. It would be a huge improvement.
Our trained eyes and ears are waiting.
LOL.
Time for CGC to jump all over this. They need to make an announcement right now that they will give grader notes and have it available for everyone on the website.
I agree.
Totally agree with everything you said man. Protecting their pocket and the scammers.
I'm hoping that they continue to improve. But, we have to press them for that to happen.
Graig- The McDonald’s wage comparison was astute observation. I don’t know what to think about PSA anymore. I feel like I go with them simply because of the registry for my player or set runs. Although , I prefer the look of the SGC tuxedo. I just sent them my prized ‘64 and ‘72 Topps Willie Mays to them. I hope I get them back.🤞
You'll get them back. I hope they're accurately graded.
"The trained eye".... WHAT A JOKE!
Yep. Laughable
How about PSA go as far and say this grader is 1 month old (baby) vs 40 years experienced.
I don't think that'll ever happen.
Wow Graig! You stated everything perfectly! Thank you!!
My pleasure!
Very eye opening video Graig. $17 an hour???? In my opinion, the grading marks can’t be shared because for people who sell, they would be getting a service for free from PSA. I use the term free very loosely. But, PSA is pretty much saying you can’t use our report to sell your item. It’s got to be about money. They are coming off as caring about their customers by giving grading marks, but in the end, they don’t care. If they did, there wouldn’t be this level of secrecy or term agreements. Why bother to do it then?
When a card is slabbed, isn't the buyer getting a service for free from PSA?
@@MidLifeCards the grading and slabbing are the same service to me. I go through my LCS to send cards in. It’s $24-$29 apiece for vintage (that’s what they charge me anyway). Then, the store was charging me $19 for cleaning and inspection, which I do not have them do anymore. But, I digress. So, I would think the fee for grading and slabbing is not free. Unless I’m missing something which is entirely possible.
Graig, I’m LOVING this color on you! Please more PSA smack downs
This is just another video for Mangini's channel. Uploaded to the wrong one. 🤫
LOL. I'm not here to attack PSA. I'm here to advocate for the card community.
I agree with your feelings, though, are you really surprised?
No surprised at all.
Was the grader stoned 🤔
LOL.
Average of 1 minute per card…3 employees handle it. Say the last guy makes 30 bucks an hour… the others make 18….$56.00 an hour …divided by 60…. 3 minutes costs them $2.80 in labor….
Exactly.
So, a packed fresh vintage card could be deemed "cleaned" since it is new. Kurt's Card Care was not trying to hurt them. He gives an option to improve cards for owners, which most stay in their own collection. PSA has a high cost, long wait time, and they are arrogant. Baseball Investor shared his reveal, and I would have been upset with his grades. They give no reason for the grade or use their picture standards for vintage with the 52 Mantle Cards.
I’m not sure I follow the part about Kurt’s card care. I never mention Kurt in this video, do I?
I’m against grader notes…..the last thing I need is eBay sellers touting the excellent notes a card received…
You obviously didn’t watch the video 😂
@@WilliamOrloff lol…you use emoticons!…yes, I have a real job…..and can’t commit to watching entire videos…..there are a few other folks and subjects that I check on RUclips as well…..impossible to watch entire videos…..but which part of grader notes did I miss with my comment?……it’s a silly concept….that’s not needed….that is the subject of the video? Correct?….
Yikes….17 minutes of video!….yea, you can bet I’m going to cruise through that pretty quickly….life is too short….gotta get over to KC’s daily video as well…always funny….
@@kevinmoynihan8087 Whole video rant was pretty much about how we can’t share grader notes. So if we sell a card on EBay we CANNOT use that info on an auction. Dumb I know…that was his point…and I agree with it. eBay sellers will not be able to “tout” anything though
@@kevinmoynihan8087 You done spent more time commenting than the actual video length there partner
The grading mastery…or in fact truly the MYSTERY of PSA continues. This is the way they maintain their market dominance over US, the trusting and unquestioning public. Simply utter NONSENSE that we, the people/customers of PSA can NEVER get meaningful clarity on the graders and their grading processes…
I totally agree.
I would assume the vast amount of the submissions is modern era cards and CCG ( magic and Pokémon ect). The vintage world gets shoe horned into the mix somehow. All I know is, this is supposed to be a FUN hobby. If something about your hobby isn't, I would recommend not associating with it.
Good point.
Grader notes are a horrible idea, and will ultimately increase the consumers’ grading costs. Maintaining notes and publishing them takes time and resources. PSA is not going to internalize these added expenses, which would reduce profit margins. PSA will eventually pass these expenses along to the consumer. PSA will likely increase grading fees, and even find a way to expand profit margins with the new grading notes service. Yes, there are always a few head scratcher grades, but most grades are close to what the submitter estimated. Be careful for what you ask for. Increasing grading fees to tell me why my card received a 4, when I predicted a 4.5, is not worth the eventual added expense.
Fair points.
Not following why graders whose job is to give an opinion on a piece of cardboard should be paid more and/or trained more than restaurant workers whose job is literally to feed the world. It's surprising the difference is only $3/hour (less than 20%). In a world which had its priorities straight, workers who feed everybody else should be paid significant more than a job as superfluous as opining on a piece of a cardboard. There are people starving and we are complaining about card grades?
Do you honestly think paying fast food workers more money would help solve world hunger? You can’t be serious.
I'm not sure how to respond here. I believe all jobs have value, otherwise they wouldn't receive compensation.
Submitter can't share the grader notes with a buyer?
What?
Why is PSA acting like Pfizer?
Good question.
PSA is a joke just quit using this horrible company they can’t get out of their own way what’s farce
The problem is, like ‘em or hate ‘em, money talks. PSA remains the only viable option for adding substantial resale value to gem mint cards.
I understand but you don’t let someone bully you just cause of that I don’t care about getting mad value as I just enjoy collecting and I will not use someone based on that I use CGC AND SGC And will continue plus I slab the bulk of my collection my self with Mag Pro…the only way to create change is to not allow the entity to control you and I will not …PSA IS a horrible company and they don’t care about the collector I’d rather give business to those that care and treat the customer better …plus those slabs are the worst in the business really look at a CGC slab it’s beautiful…..we all get to choose and I will not give them a dime I’ll gladly take less in value because I will not support a company that is this bad
@@AdamJUlrey I can respect that!
@@HighPopProfessor I love your show......I collect Shining Things also along with Vintage.....Take care my friend
Yes… I tend to be drawn toward the shiny refractors like a moth drawn to the light! Thanks for the kind words, Adam!
The Sports Cards industry is now ruled by monopolies . . . they make the rules, and collectors are stuck with them! It will only get worse with Fanatics and PSA teaming up via eBay!!!!!
PSA has been around for over 30 years. There have been so many grading companies that have tried and failed. There's even a website. I forget what it's called. Some sort of list of all the defunct companies out of business. As soon as card companies during the mid to late 1980's saw that money could be made from cards. They revamped the production. PSA was just the first to jump on it, and created their own grading scale, and set registry. They were at the right place at the right time.
@@ACD1994 That does NOT mean they are NOT a monopoly!
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Monopolies in the industry is certainly not a good thing for the collectors.
Its a secret, because they say it's a secret. They dont need to explain anything when they hold the market in the palm of their hand. All these types of videos just prove that I made the right decision moving into original photos. Way too much money is flowing in the card market for PSA to care about anything else. Everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar.
Another thing to remember: PSA has no stiff competition, so they're not worried about anyone going anywhere.
LOL.
They had someone starting to compete, so they bought them.
@@MidLifeCards Yep. The world of business is crazy. Money talks.
Speak up? should be boycot...PSA lifeline is $$
People will start to realize the same card is the same card just different plastic.
PSA will fade away with the covid shot (fortunately). IRONIC?
If we don't speak up, they have no reason to improve....they're a monopoly now that they own SGC.
We hate psa. Long live Beckett and bgs
LOL.
Whats crazy is how many times you see vintage cards with sharp corners, good centering constantly getting 5's and 6's or less with PSA. Its because their controlling the market. A card should get the grade it deserves no ifs ands or buts!!!! All it takes is us to change the narrative, start grading with CGC plus there cases are a hell of a lot nicer.
I'm just glad we have other options....competition is good for us.
Golden opportunity for SGC take market share from PSA and command respectability in the card collecting community if they were to step up and include notes with every submission - and make available to anyone accessing the serial number. Like CARFAX. Now is your chance, SGC. Dramatic results require bold actions. Man-up and crush PSA.
I wouldn't be surprised. SGC has seemingly wanted to be the standard. I just hope that SGC's new Collector's overlords continue to let SGC operate independently from PSA
You do realize they are owned by the same parent company. Why would collector's universe allow SGC to crush their larger sister company PSA?
@@cardboardandplastic9267 Precisely.
@@cardboardandplastic9267 hahaha....exactly what I was thinking...me suspects the poster didn't even know SGC had been bought by Collector's Universe, who also owns PSA
@@cardboardandplastic9267 Crush is a strong word. It would probably be more profitable for Collector's if SGC's brand continues to grow and give PSA at least a bit more pressure than they currently do. But then again having a single entity could be just as profitable for Collector's' Shareholders. Competition, even the quasi kind between PSA and SGC, breeds innovation and change as companies strive to be better than the rest. It's going to be pretty hard to unseat Collector's hold on the grading scene so it may be important to Collector's that there be internal competition. But as I said it depends on what the long term plans of Collector's.