The Best Lenses for Sports Photography with Peter Read Miller
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Join Peter Read Miller as he discusses some of his favorite lenses for sports photography. He offers some of his tips and tricks for shooting soccer. While there is so much to learn (the workshop is the best place to learn), here Peter discusses camera lens choices, camera settings, field position and more.
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Peter Read Miller, Sports Illustrated iconic photographer for an incredible workshop discussion of sports photography. You'll shoot soccer, international swimming and much more, all with top of the line cameras and lenses by Canon USA. The workshop is sponsored by Canon, Western Digital, ThinkTank, Dynalite and Hoodman.
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My camera bodies are the Canon 1D Mk IV, which has the 1.3x crop factor. My 300/2.8 therefore becomes a 390/2.8 effectively. My 400/2.8 L IS II is an effective 520/2.8 and is my least used lens, along with my 14mm f2.8 II wideangle. If you're on a budget and want fast pro glass, opt for 2nd-hand gear that is _not_ the most current model in the range. You can get an old Canon 400/2.8 L-Series lens (the one without IS) for $1000.
I remember this guys Sports Illustrated NFL photos from the 1970s and 80s. My elementary school would get Sports Illustrated magazine on the same day each week. I was usually the first kid to get his hands on it.
This was just perfect, for questions I had! Great job Peter!!!!
Thanks for watching Brenda!
I’m glad I found this channel...I’m learning a lot
Looking forward to your take on Photo Mechanic / Cropping / final image workflow Peter. Thank you for doing these
I would also love to see a video on this topic.
Another great video, Peter.
Thanks Toyin
Short and useful information
Peter, Great video and information as always, looking forward to you next video and some day getting back to one of your workshops. Since attending your 2012 Workshop in Denver its been an amazing ride for me, work and my images. Looking forward to getting back for a recharge. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and professionalism.
Your welcome John. Registration is open for my Tennessee Workshop September 12-16 events.eventzilla.net/e/rocky-top-ivtennessee-football-and-college-sports-september-1216-2018-knoxville-tn-2138959074
Thanks very much for your infos about the soccer lens, i'm willing to learn from you master.
Peter, congratulations on the channel. Great to see you last week @ Avaya. I would like to know more about focusing settings, backfocus, and AF micro-adjustment focus adjustments. Metering, breakdown matrix, partial, center weighting and spot. YES, I have read the manual, but applied to the sports photog setup. Many thanks.
I usually use Case 4, 4 spots or 9 spots almost always in the center. Center weighted metering. I never micro-adjust. It just seems like asking for trouble. If I have trouble with focus on a lens camera combo-I send it to Canon Service.
you didnt mention that the canon 200-400mm f4 was $11,000
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If you're a working professional, price shouldn't matter as it is a business expense.
Hi Peter what brand and model monopod is in the video l'm looking for a great solid monopod for my 1d mk lV and 400 2.8L lS ll .👍
Did yo ever make a review on the Caon 1DX??
Peter , this is very relevant for me. I’ll subscribe! Thank you! You asked for
Questions, and I appreciate how busy you are, so here goes:
I just began to shoot just HS lacrosse, usually from the sidelines. I print 16x20+ occasionally.
1) What’s your view on the slowdown in AF using the Canon 2X iii? (I read Canon says they slow it by 75%!)
2) can you suggest a great rig for that under $5k?
I have the following lenses: 100-400 IS i, 70-200 IS ii , 2x iii. Should I upgrade any ? Picked them up at good price 2nd hand and happy to sell any for a replacement that will best suit.
3) I Have a 5DIV and considering an R6 FF or R7 crop, as I’ve begun to also shoot some video and appreciate new video specs.
Would you suggest modern mirrorless FF or a crop for HS sports outdoors? Thank you very much, and happy to patreon you if you accept that!
Will these lenses work well for videography for indoor basketball?
Thanks Peter. For field sports would you choose the 100 400 mark II used at $1500 or the 400 / 5.6 for $600 - those are my choices and I’m trying to decide thanks.
Hi Peter, is it possible to use canon lens 70-200mm f2.8 on Nikon D300 camera ?
hi!! i have to shoot at a moto race, wich lens u recommend me? the canon 400mm 5.6 L or the canon 100 - 400 mm (but mk 1) or the 70 200 2.8 IS L with a entender 2x?
thx!!
What's your opinion on an EOS R with a EF 70-200 IS III for shooting basketball?
Hello Mr. Miller. I use the Canon 90d, with the Canon 100-400 5.6 ii Lens. I have not done much of sports shooting, but love air shows etc. I notice in this video and several others i have viewed, that you mention the 1.4 extender. When I bought my 1.4 extender, I was advised to shoot in manual mode with the extender. Most videos mention the 1.4 or maybe even the 2x extender, but no information how best to use them. I shoot in AV mode. I am confused on how to properly use the extender, in A/F on lens, and i am not that fast on getting the focus for the shot. Is It best to not use the extender or what information can you share on using the 1.4 extender.
Peter, huge fan of your work. I have been shooting 70-200 and thinking about the big 400 mm lens. But watching you with the monopod made me wonder about something ...Do you just lean forward and back when going up and down. I bet you have to be careful ! Just wondering. Also what monopod set up do you like. Thanks.
Mike
Hi Peter. I’ve dabbled in photography for many years but wanted to start shooting at equestrian events. I’m wondering what sort of setup you’d recommend for horses and horse riding? Also, do you do online workshops and where can I register please? Thank you.
Hi Peter, Thanks for the informative video. For a football match, if you only have 5D IV x2, 70-200mm 2.8 and 24-70mm 2.8, would you just add extender to the 70-200mm ( I have seen very mixed reviews on this) or would you still recommend 100-400mm 3.5 -5.6?
Nope. Just get a Tamron or Sigma 150-600mm
This is a great channel -- and Peter's work is clearly the best of the best ... I''m always interested in what the pros shoot but also cognizant of the fact that anyone who shoots for SI or the like is generally shooting in pro venue/pro lighting situations. And for those conditions, BINGO. That a great setup. I can't imagine buying an f4 with and extender than makes it an f5.6 for shooting at ill-it high schools over a 400 f2/8 which is in the same price range. Pretty sure I'd be packing it in on most night HS and D2/D3 college games after the first quarter during September and staying home thereafter. Curious what others think. Am I missing something?
Even with the great low light capabilities of today's cameras F5.6 doesn't cut it even in a better lit venue
Nah, you're spot on. 300mm & 400mm f/2.8 for those HS/small college venues for the most part. Unless you've got a high ISO beast, the f/4 will stay home after September for HSFB. But, can come back out for HS Soccer/Track/Baseball & Softball.
When I shoot Wisconsin Badger football games at Camp Randall, I have used the 200-400 f/4 with the 1DX MK II and found that though the ISO is high, the photos still come out pretty darn good, but not great. At those times, I long for the 400 f/2.8 even though it is a D1 school. I usually end up trying to get closer and use my 300 F/2.8 after half time. But for all other sports in daylight (Polo, Equestrian, Soccer, Golf, Baseball, etc.) the 200-400 F/4-5.6 is incredibly versatile and as sharp as it gets. I do not regret that purchase for an instant.
Why shoot with expander lens?
It's better to take a picture with the lens and crop the picture and keep the sharpness, right? Anyway, your recommendations are excellent and helpful.
Any thoughts on using the 90D for sports and first few lenses for someone coming back to photography from 35mm ?
The 7D2 does better in low light. The 90D is a great body, but sports isn’t it’s market. For the price of a 90D, you could probably fine a gently used 1Dx which is light years better.
Thanks for all the great info! I got a 70-200 2.8 for my Nikon about 6 months ago, mainly for gymnastics but it’s gotten good use for peewee football, basketball, and little league, too.
I photograph horse shows outside with a Nikon 7200 and a Tamron 100-400. I wish I could afford the cameras you have, this was a great video and very informative. Thank you.
You would be pleasantly surprised at how cheap an AF-S 300mm 2.8D ED-IF is used these days, about $1200! It's built like a tank and it's extremely fast and sharp and takes amazing images. I started out with one these way back in 2001 when they $5500 and I remember what a great lens it was. You should find a way to buy one, instead of buying a new camera always buy new glass. I now use the newest 400mm 2.8 FL VR, but the truth is that old 300mm 2.8 is almost as good and especially in good lighting.
Good morning. I shoot High School Football in New Jersey. I use the Canon 7D Mark II with a Canon 70-200mm F2.8 lens. The lighting is awful. Is there anyway that I can get more lighting out of my setup with this camera and lens?
70-200 2.8 with version 3 teleconverter on 5dmkII ends up at f5.6 and very acceptable daylight photos
What mom shooting volleyball is going to buy a 1dx II lol. But thank you for the video!
Great job.What # case on the 1dx mark ii do you feel is best for High School football. Thank You.
Hi, just a quick question. I noticed your hands are a bit shaky and I was wondering, since I have the same problem and I think this effects my photos on the telephoto range no matter the shutter speed.
Using the Canon 70-200 2.8 on a 90d body, what effect would the canon 1.4 or 2.0 extender have on the speed of the auto focus?
Your best bet is probably to rent one for the weekend and see for yourself. I'm wondering the same thing.
Thank you for your insights. At a complete amateur level I´m looking always for advise. I was lately recommended on a combination of Nikon D500 w/ Tamron G20 70-200. In a few months I'll have to take a decision, so not under pressure. Despite of the argument Between Nikon and Canon, I got a lot of advise regarding the Nikon D500, however I can see (all) most of professional photographers (sports or not) using Canon! At the end of the day the option is mine. Curious if you have a comment? Cheers
@@khanikati77 Thank You for your time. I really appreciated your reply and copied to my personal notes to keep track in time. As a token of gratitude, subscribed your YT channel. Tried to search on Instagram without success. Do you have one Insta account? Cheers
Hi! I have a canon 70-200 f4 zoom lens, I am not sure if it is enough for sports shooting, should I get a 1.4x converter?
It'll be an f/5.6 if you do, so a little slower to gather light, and it won't let you jack that shutter speed up as much. Should be fine in the outdoors during peak daylight. As a rule, it's never a bad thing to have a 1.4x teleconverter in your kit. You can always increase the ISO and fix noise, but not so motion blur from too slow a shutter speed.
Hi Peter - I have just one question! I've been shooting my first 'pro' Premiership rugby season on a 7Dii with a 300mm 2.8 L IS. I find that nearly every pic I take benefits from reduced highlights and increased shadows in post. But the 'important' jpegs have to go in a matter of minutes to my agent and so I would like to set up my body to do this. I have tried using different Picture Styles, but I just can't seem to find the result I want. Another tog said "try Nikon" for better dynamic range but I've invested in Canon , so that's not an option. Do you have any in-camera setup suggestions?
You should be custom white balancing in body & setting up a custom profile before the events.
Thank you sir, for the best/most succinct video on this subject. I am going to get a 70-200 2.8 for basketball/baseball duty on a crop sensor. What is your opinion of going non IS? Id like to save some coin if possible.
As long as your shutter speed is 800 and up, you really won't need the IS. I use an older Sigma 300mm f/2.8 with no stabilization, at 1000 ss and up, and can still get crispy photos.
♥♥♥Canon love for ever♥♥♥
What would the setting be for your 400mm f4 outdoor night football game?
J C it depends on how much light you have. If it’s high school you probably will shoot wide open at f4 and shutter speed 1/1250 and iso 8000 to 16000
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6D Mark II + 70-200mm f4 IS? I can spend the money on the 2.8 but am soooo drawn to the smaller size of the f4. It is that limiting for indoor high school basketball??
hey, I'm not peter reed but i am a professional sports photojournalist for my local paper, so i thought I'd give you my 2 cents(if this is even still relevant to you). The f4 70-200 will be really limiting for how high you'll be able to push your shutter and how low you can keep your iso, i can see the appeal for the smaller size and lower price; but shooting in HS gyms the lighting is almost always far from good. those couple extra stops of light will make all the difference.
Peter-are you thinking about going mirrorless -i have a lot of great lenses-and i just dont see the benefits-what do you think
Having read your book and heard you interviewed on Kelby podcasts it is great to be able to now see your videos on RUclips. As a parent who loves taking images of the kids sports (principally rowing, cross country, swimming, tennis, basketball, cricket) I particularly enjoyed this one. I shoot with Canon 5D 111 and have recently picked up the 100 - 400 which has added so much to my capabilities I don't know why it took me so long to get one. I am about to buy the 70 - 200 2.8 to replace the f4 I have used forever and am thinking of getting the 1.4 converter as well. A question - whilst adding extra reach I have also heard that a converter slows down the focussing capability of a lens. You obviously use one - does it have any negative impact on your shooting or is it a no brainer for me to grab one? Looking forward to you response - and many future videos. Best regards, Peter
Hey Peter, I'm clearly not P.R.M answering here, but I will give you my take on this for what it's worth.
Anytime you use a tele, depending on the multiplication factor involved, you are going to loose f/stops and fraction of some speed. When you look at a 1.4x tele, it's one stop ( so your f/4 - 5.6 on the long end) will effectively become a f/5.6 - 8.0. Herein lies the issue. And going up to 2.0x, you loose 2 full stops! Some bodies don't do well with focusing near f.8 end of the spectrum. So you can anticipate some hunting for a focus lock in those high f/stops (using a tele) on those variable aperture optics.
There is a huge difference in a fixed aperture lens (eg fixed f/2.8) and the variable /f4-5.6 pieces of glass. Not only are you really limited when trying to do the inside sports because of ISO+Required Shutter+ISO results, but adding that tele will ruin your day. Limiting you to what and where you'll get usable images.
Bodies come and go! The glass is going to last you as long as you take care of your kit and stay with a brand. So the very last place you want to skimp is on the optics end. It holds it's resale value better also. So dive into fixed lens models and try and limit that f/4-5/6 stuff. You'll be adding more shooting options to your outings, and, It's just an easier/cost effective/better results way to go. Just my 2cents.
Thanks for your comments, John. I am aware of the sort of limitations such a strategy might present but I guess the question I posed was more related to the 70 - 200 2.8 rather than the 100 - 400. With that lens a 1.4 extender almost gets me a 300 f4 - which in some of the sports I shoot is more than enough zoom - and offers a wider aperture at that point than the 100 - 400 (f 5.0) so it appears to be an excellent alternative. My concern is whether, by adding the extender, the speed of locking onto the target is degraded to such an extent that it makes less sense to go down that path. Any thoughts on that? All the best, Peter
Peter-yes the extender does slow down the AF to an extent. I usually don't notice it and I think the trade off for more focal length is definitely worth it.
Excellent. Thanks very much for your reply. Look forward too seeing more of your videos soon. Best wishes, Peter
I'm a fan of the 1.4X converter, not so much of the 2X. With the 1.4X you of course lose a stop of light, but you also lose some AF speed maybe 25%
Hi there that bad very interested educational video, I have a Canon 40D with a Canon 70-200 f 4 just ordered them from eBay for some soccer games outdoors that’s a 10 mp APS-C sensor , do you think I can use the same camera and a canon 70-200 f 2.8 ( when I will have the money ) for indoor sports like little league 7 vs 7 soccer games , any other budget recommendations? Thanks in advance.
Bob Lee I’d recommend upgrading your body first. You can find a used 7D for around $350. And when you get the money, you can sell your f4 and buy a Sigma 70-200 f2.8
Hi Pete, thank you for your videos, they are great. I like to take photos of school soccer games. I have a canon rebel t5i and a lent 55-250 mm f 4 . My problems is I can’t take a good pictures they came blurred. Do you think is the lent? I had been trying an sport, manual and a tv mode but a have the same problem. Thank you.
Use AI Servo as a focus mode, single point focus (center one), use burst mode (high continuous shooting), and make sure your shutter speed is at least 1/1000. Also, use the lowest aperture you can with your lens, and given you said it's the Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens, that will vary. At 250mm it will be 5.6. Your ISO will have to compensate for the rest.
M. Lee Media thank you. Do you think I do need to get a f 2.8 lent? I going to travel to a a soccer tournament and I want to make sure to get good pictures from far way.
You're talking about two different things. The aperture (2.8 in this case) will help you in low light situations, as the lens lets a lot more light, which means you can have a faster shutter speed/lower ISO. If range is your only concern, then you'll want something longer than 250mm. 300mm, 400mm, etc. It really depends on what you're shooting, in what conditions (light especially) and above all, your budget ;) Good luck!
how does that extender have so much dust holy cow!!!!
On a budget? 1D X Mark III with an 70-200 f2.8 IS iii . Just don’t mention the price of 10k +
GLASS, GLASS, GLASS!!!
how much dust was on that extender !
Bom dia
Estou a pensar em comprar uma substituta para a minha G7
O meu interesse é filmar a família principalmente os mais pequenos que jogam futebol e basquetebol
Creio que a focagem tem de ser MUITO rápida, e em ginásios a luz é muito reduzida pelo que à sensibilidade à luz +e IMPORTANTE
Não vale a pena estar bem focada se a foto for muito escura, nem vale a pena a foto ter luz e não estar focada
Desta vez pensei numa A7 III, A7 IV ou uma A7s apesar do preço
Também me falaram na Lumix da gama S
Com 2500 €, podem dizer-me qual é a melhor ou melhores escolhas?
Muito obrigado pela ajuda
I am a beginner photographer and I shoot racing photography (dirt tracks and pavement race tracks)
What kind of lens would you recommend without blowing the bank?
Most of the race tracks that I visit don’t have the best lights and there are a couple races that i do are indoor.
As well as having Canon f2.8 70-200 and 24-70 lenses, I also use Tamron lenses. They are half the price and match the performance. The Tamron Di VC 24-70mm is a great lens
That depends on what you have already, and how much you're willing to spend :) Can you be more specific?
What happened to Peter and his RUclips channel?
How did you get jobof this
Do you have any experience shooting cricket? If so, which lens have you used?
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Could you donate about $10K? I don't work for Sports Illustrated, so some of those are a little out of my budget!
You have WAY too much make up on!
i dont think its make up, his face color keeps changing i think its the way it got compressed that makes it look bad.
No, it's NOT a triangle. It's three interlinked factors, but it has nothing to do with a triangle. Don't know why so many people use this analogy, as it's pointless.