22mph, while not the zippiest, is pretty darn good for a commuter. Also, the large tires and hydraulic braking system are very pleasing. Hopefully, this becomes available in the US.
I hope you guys come out with a dual motor version. I seen the hill climb video and was not impressed. It's a beautiful looking scooter just wish it had a little more power.
Its a lovely looking scooter. Because it meets road legality in most European countries and potentially the UK in the future it has to have the 500w motor. That being said, it is the fastest 500w scooter that we have tested up the hills good performance for its spec. We could put a larger motor in the rear pretty easily 😀👍
must say R+R, your review videos are really decent. It was because of the review of the Mate X bike is why I bought it from you guys in the first. Decent
Currently legal on the roads through the government rental schemes but nit legal for privately owned scooters. It loos like the rules are finally changing but no date set yet
I think that this scooter is going to suffer a market identity crisis for a lot of potential customers and yet one that a seat option would solve. Of course, for the US, bigger motor/s and battery. The larger wheels tend to really restrict the deck length which reduces the stance (foot separation) that may be needed for tall riders to negotiate bumps especially without suspension.
Made for European regulations and aimed at commuters that enjoy the upright stance and not having to pedal. Points taken though and it definitely wont suit everyone 👍
I can’t see why 500 watts limit is what authorities are going for. Heavier riders or going on hills struggling to do 10mph at best isn’t actually safer in my view. 1000 watts is more realistic and useable. If not manufacturers need to fit beefier batteries and controllers to get a high peak output. A 500 watt motor needs to be having near 1000 watt peak. I think unagi were actually on to something with their 250 watt dual motor e500 as although not much power overall dual motor works better on hills cos of traction etc plus on flats or downhill u can switch to single motor and save battery.
Totally agree but the peak output is also normally restricted, it really makes no sense. As you say, heavier riders on steeper hills will end up pushing in the cycle lanes or on the roads which will be so dangerous 🤯🤯
No need to pedal. Better if you've got lower body mobility issues. Lower centre of gravity. No chain or gears to deal with. Less maintenance. Those are just top of my head. I think this kind of design makes a lot of sense, well done Element 👏
Great summary, thats exactly why it was designed in that way. We have so many people telling us about hip/knee/ankle issues etc and they just cant pedal but want the freedom they've always had 🙌🙌
Unfortunately it has to meet the european legalities for road and bike path riding so there is a max motor size. However its the best climber out of the 500w scooters we have tried 😀👍
200m 20% slope, pretty flat round here so its as hilly as it gets 🤣🤣 For a larger battery it would need to be redesigned and would have less rider space and also be heavier so it was a trade off 😎 Thanks for watching and the feedback 👍👍
Nice for the first gen but the next gen should have more.we both know what I mean by more.if not then here it is off road is missing USA sales is missing and diy should be nice for us diyers
Looks like a bicycle without the option to sit or use the pedals when you run out of battery. It's not as portable as a scooter and doesn't have the advantages of a bicycle... hard pass.
Its been very popular for riders with hip and joint problems, allowing them to keep walking their dogs, or get to the shops, or just get out and about without having to walk or peddle, they are great fun to ride, come and try one out any time 😀👍
Nice; however, the aim should have been higher. This may be suitable for EU/UK; however, will not pass muster elsewhere with higher/greater competition. Thanks for the review.
im quiet dissapointed especially with how this thing struggled with a basic hill climb something my xiaomi m365 can do even the base model xiaomis can do this no problem.. meanwhile this 1.5k overpriced standing bicycle thingy cant even do it.. no torque no power. just fancy looks
@@RIDEGLIDE your concept of how this works is pretty low tier yes your standing bicycle should be able to make it but u fail to understand bigger wheels need more powerful motors u cant use the same 500w motors u use on an escooter with 8'inch wheels on a standing ebicycle with 20 inch wheels.. the larger the diameter the harder the motors have to work therefore the lower the torque output and the lower the acceleration if it was an ordinary escooter with the same motor power it would power up the hill no problem, I notice a lack of torque/power output which is pretty bad for what this thing is ment to be able to do which tells me ur using underpowered controllers limited to a certain low amperage just enough to get it moving regardless of lacking power being produced, and u cant just force the motors to actually work harder under peak power, actually have the right amount of power required in the first place and that wont be an issue.
@@RIDEGLIDE also not to forget its carrying more weight than an xiaomi scooter, 25kg from what ur specs say,, u need more powerful motors u cant be using 500w and expect to perform the same way as a xiaomi or pure scooter with a 500w motor the form factors are different and the scooters are clearly way lighter...
@RIDEGLIDE U said that was a steep hill what gradient is that hill that doesnt even look like a hill more of a slight incline u somehow call a hill 🤦🏾♂️
22mph, while not the zippiest, is pretty darn good for a commuter.
Also, the large tires and hydraulic braking system are very pleasing.
Hopefully, this becomes available in the US.
Its certainly fast enough for urban riding. We will do our best to get it over there 😀👍
@@RIDEGLIDE Any update on US availability?
That’s one stylish whip! Fenders holding up well too - so fresh & so clean 🧼
Thank, shes a beauty!! Come down any time to try one out! 😀
I hope you guys come out with a dual motor version. I seen the hill climb video and was not impressed. It's a beautiful looking scooter just wish it had a little more power.
Its a lovely looking scooter. Because it meets road legality in most European countries and potentially the UK in the future it has to have the 500w motor. That being said, it is the fastest 500w scooter that we have tested up the hills good performance for its spec. We could put a larger motor in the rear pretty easily 😀👍
…and not be limited by the battery/controller/platform, to include brakes?
More power!
We cann'e do it captain, we dont have the power!! (scottish accent) Its designed to meet the UK road legal regs once they change 😬😀
Eject the warp core. The resulting explosion will push us out of the gravitational field of the EU and their sympathizers.
must say R+R, your review videos are really decent. It was because of the review of the Mate X bike is why I bought it from you guys in the first. Decent
Thanks for watching and thats so nice to hear. It takes a lot of time to put them together so always cool to know people find them useful 🙌🙌🙌
The only thing lacking is the suspension.
Yup, so difficult as adds to the weight and takes some of the style away. Would be good for a bit of off-roading 😀
Do you ship to the US and is there a more powerful model for the US market?
Not yet but distribution will be sorted there in the near future. Yes a more powerful motor can be fitted 👍👍
Please bring these to the US. Cheers from Northern California
Would love to, thanks for watching 🙌🙌
Kinda wanna buy one just to stick a 3kw motor on each wheel to shred about.
🚀🚀🚀
That thing is sweeeeet❤!!! I’m digging the blue color. Though I’m in the US 👍🏽
That is a lovely colour 🙌🙌
Is possible to buy in eastern Europe?
Yes we can ship there 👍👍
Nice
Its a lovely scooter, although we would say that!! 😀
What are the current laws about scooters in the UK ? I see them all the time on the road in London.
Currently legal on the roads through the government rental schemes but nit legal for privately owned scooters. It loos like the rules are finally changing but no date set yet
How do you unrestrict it? The advanced settings is asking for a password
I think that this scooter is going to suffer a market identity crisis for a lot of potential customers and yet one that a seat option would solve. Of course, for the US, bigger motor/s and battery. The larger wheels tend to really restrict the deck length which reduces the stance (foot separation) that may be needed for tall riders to negotiate bumps especially without suspension.
Made for European regulations and aimed at commuters that enjoy the upright stance and not having to pedal. Points taken though and it definitely wont suit everyone 👍
Looks fun... But soo slow
Where I live there isn't a flat road in sight, all very very steep hills so unfortunately I have to pass 😢
its a bummer but looks like that will be the motor limit in the UK when they are made legal 👍
I can’t see why 500 watts limit is what authorities are going for. Heavier riders or going on hills struggling to do 10mph at best isn’t actually safer in my view. 1000 watts is more realistic and useable. If not manufacturers need to fit beefier batteries and controllers to get a high peak output. A 500 watt motor needs to be having near 1000 watt peak. I think unagi were actually on to something with their 250 watt dual motor e500 as although not much power overall dual motor works better on hills cos of traction etc plus on flats or downhill u can switch to single motor and save battery.
Totally agree but the peak output is also normally restricted, it really makes no sense. As you say, heavier riders on steeper hills will end up pushing in the cycle lanes or on the roads which will be so dangerous 🤯🤯
@@RIDEGLIDE exactly I think dual 500 watt so 1000 watt combined like the Apollo city strikes a good balance.
@@e-scooterguy Agree, not sure how it would work with the larger wheels though, maybe harder to turn or control?
The form factor doesn't make much sense to me.... it seems more sensible to just get a ebike instead.
No need to pedal. Better if you've got lower body mobility issues. Lower centre of gravity. No chain or gears to deal with. Less maintenance. Those are just top of my head.
I think this kind of design makes a lot of sense, well done Element 👏
Great summary, thats exactly why it was designed in that way. We have so many people telling us about hip/knee/ankle issues etc and they just cant pedal but want the freedom they've always had 🙌🙌
yes exactly. hip knee ankle issues. great design. @@RIDEGLIDE
U lost me at single 500 watt motor 😅
🤣🤣🤣 Its to fit in with the proposed legislation in the UK!
Not enough torque for the Sheffield hills where I live. I'd be pushing it more than riding it. 😂
🤣🤣 she will get you up there no bother 👍👍
@@RIDEGLIDE I will stick with my Zero 10x 60v I bought from you Pete. Still going strong 💪
@@DanceySteveYNWA that’s great to hear, such a solid scooter 👍👍👍
Wouldn't work for me, being a heavier rider, would just stop on a hill lol. Look nice though, not enough go sadly
Unfortunately it has to meet the european legalities for road and bike path riding so there is a max motor size. However its the best climber out of the 500w scooters we have tried 😀👍
good video 😎
this needs at least a 25 ah battery 🔋
that doesn't even look like a hill 🤣
200m 20% slope, pretty flat round here so its as hilly as it gets 🤣🤣 For a larger battery it would need to be redesigned and would have less rider space and also be heavier so it was a trade off 😎 Thanks for watching and the feedback 👍👍
The battery comes off, so you could buy another one
@@matthewm7666 definitely 😀👍
Nice for the first gen but the next gen should have more.we both know what I mean by more.if not then here it is off road is missing USA sales is missing and diy should be nice for us diyers
We hear you! Maybe one for the DIY guys to spec up 🙌🙌
Looks like a bicycle without the option to sit or use the pedals when you run out of battery. It's not as portable as a scooter and doesn't have the advantages of a bicycle... hard pass.
Its been very popular for riders with hip and joint problems, allowing them to keep walking their dogs, or get to the shops, or just get out and about without having to walk or peddle, they are great fun to ride, come and try one out any time 😀👍
Nice; however, the aim should have been higher.
This may be suitable for EU/UK; however, will not pass muster elsewhere with higher/greater competition.
Thanks for the review.
Im afraid we are limited by the rules 😥
These scooters suck on tiny hills
This scooter is great on hills, watch the vid 👍👍
It's illegal to ride on the road so it's pointless
We are shipping throughout Europe so all good 👍
im quiet dissapointed especially with how this thing struggled with a basic hill climb something my xiaomi m365 can do even the base model xiaomis can do this no problem.. meanwhile this 1.5k overpriced standing bicycle thingy cant even do it.. no torque no power. just fancy looks
The xiaomi didn't make it up the hill unfortunately, steeper than it looks! Come down to the shop and try it for yourself, it might surprise you 👍👍
@@RIDEGLIDE your concept of how this works is pretty low tier yes your standing bicycle should be able to make it but u fail to understand bigger wheels need more powerful motors u cant use the same 500w motors u use on an escooter with 8'inch wheels on a standing ebicycle with 20 inch wheels.. the larger the diameter the harder the motors have to work therefore the lower the torque output and the lower the acceleration if it was an ordinary escooter with the same motor power it would power up the hill no problem, I notice a lack of torque/power output which is pretty bad for what this thing is ment to be able to do which tells me ur using underpowered controllers limited to a certain low amperage just enough to get it moving regardless of lacking power being produced, and u cant just force the motors to actually work harder under peak power, actually have the right amount of power required in the first place and that wont be an issue.
@@RIDEGLIDE also not to forget its carrying more weight than an xiaomi scooter, 25kg from what ur specs say,, u need more powerful motors u cant be using 500w and expect to perform the same way as a xiaomi or pure scooter with a 500w motor the form factors are different and the scooters are clearly way lighter...
@RIDEGLIDE U said that was a steep hill what gradient is that hill that doesnt even look like a hill more of a slight incline u somehow call a hill 🤦🏾♂️