The unpopular option is a terrible one. Some people have a "no one can use my car ever" rule and because crashing is expensive, that's a reasonable rule.
Clearly the person doesn't understand what it means to have someone practically steal their car when the person was told no and be scared about what could happen.
I rolled my eyes at the comment about how her car wasn't stolen. News flash, when someone tells you "no" and you take it anyways that is stealing. Just like when you say no to a man and he forces himself on you anyways that is grape. Consent is what matters in these situations. It was stolen!
Story 1: BAFFLED at the ppl saying OP is the idiot, are we kidding?!? She said NO and seeing how they operate, they would NOT take responsibility for anything that happened to her car. Doesn’t matter if she’s staying with them, she can still have boundaries! It’s not borrowing a pen, be serious.
NTA - I don't loan my vehicles to strangers either whether they are related to me or my SO. OP don't know their driving capabilities, driving record, or common sense as far as drinking and driving. She didn't know where she took her car, or when it will be back. 2.5 hours after being told be back soon....is not soon enough. No report was filed. OP doesn't owe anyone an apology but sister sure owes OP one for taking the car after being told No when asked. Does Dad have a car he could have loaned her?!
Seriously! And so what if the bf helped her to pay it? She paid him back. He isn't a co-signer or anything of the sort. Even if he was a co-signer, it doesn't give him, let alone a third party the right to hand out the damn keys.
@@ashh4929 exactly 💯. Which means the so called excuse is completely BS. Even if his name was on it he did say no. So even then the BS excuse would be completely BS.
Story 1. I can't believe people are telling her a stolen car is no big deal, if an uninsured driver wrecks that's 30k-50k in this economy. Obviously there are a lot of children commenting on her post
Here insurance is tied to vehicle, not the driver. But ofc if someone else crashed, owner suffers and insurance payments go up. They both said no. Even they know who took the car, it was still taken withou permission of the owner aka stolen. They called her to come back before calling police. Also, just because someone is related to your SO, it doesn't make them good/trusted person. I know my siblings are I am very uncomfortable borrowing my car to them.
@@duckeh1952 I believe that varies from country to country whether the car insurance is driver or car based, but yeah no one should drive without insurance.
Story 1: "Too far" was stealing the car. OP said no, and when it was taken anyway she told them to bring it back and they didn't. Reporting it stolen is the next step, especially when they show no regard for their actions.
If we don’t file, it’s bcz they better not do it again. Or they’re in a place jail would be detrimental. Aka some relatives with addiction needed compassion and rehab, not jail. They’re sober and thriving now. Jail would’ve been 10 years. I’ll never get some heirlooms back but I have my family. Those are my few exceptions
As someone who works in auto insurance, always file a report. If you don’t and she didn’t have permission, insurance won’t pay for damages or injuries. If there is a police report, they will. At least in the states.
Even if there was no damage to the car, what if the thief ran a red light or did something else to warrant a ticket mailed to OP since it’s her vehicle?
Story 1 every piece of shir saying OP is the idiot is why people like the sister are getting away with this shit stfu toxic ass holes they are such enablers great world we live in when so many people are outright idiotic
Just because you know who has something doesn't mean it isn't stolen. She knew she didn't have permission when the dad handed the keys over. She was told no by the owner. She stole it.
Sundress story: There is being a bridezilla and then there is whatever OP's cousin has going on. OP is either really pretty and cousin was jelaous or the cousin is nuts, both things can coexist.
Would love to see the flying moneys or cousins face if she has said the thing about looking so good she stole the spotlight 96 hours before the wedding. I'm a petty bitch so that really appeals to the gremlin inside.
The only reason that story could have happened without some mysterious mass insanity in the family would be if the bride bought that same white sundress to serve as her wedding/reception dress. And then she assumed the OP knew, and the picture of OP in that same white dress was maliciously ruining the wedding plans.
After telling the sister no twice, asking someone who doesn’t own the car doesn’t have the authority to give permission. My ex called the police when I took the car he drove to work, while we were still settle the divorce. The police asked if he knew who and he admitted it w mt likely the co-owner -me. They said then it wasn’t stolen! They may have asked if I had a key which I did. I was willing to sign over the car but I wanted the house settled and he was refusing to accept offers and wouldn’t counter offer either. -- it partially worked.
RE: Spring Cleaning Day Make Note: Janitors are not allowed to look at, and especially not sort, proprietary information. Spring Cleaning Day in an office is NOT vacuuming and dusting, it's going through the files and folders, it's going through things that have piled up on your desk, it's justifying the 6 inch diameter rubber band ball to the boss etc. etc.
Absolutely! That commenter who said something negative about using office workers as janitorial staff has clearly never worked in an office setting. Also, that was a pretty elitist attitude.
@@mandykawaii1646 desks get dusty and people get sweaty. i wouldn’t want to clean my desk out in my nice pants and shirt bc it would also just get generally uncomfortable
"what sort of job uses their workers as janitorial staff" Pretty much every employment contract in New Zealand has a clause "other duties as directed".
@@briannawilliams2867 Never really seen it used much but when we move floors or offices we pack crap up and move it so I guess there is that - we are not movers but do it. But Kiwis are not afraid to roll their shirt sleeves up and do what has to be done. We are also not status obsessed like so many Americans seem to be.
@@thecoolgrandma7208 I’m confused because I live in the US and this is a first for me. I’ve literally never heard of office workers doing spring cleaning. I didn’t have to at any of my jobs unless I was working retail.
@@thecoolgrandma7208 Yea ik and agree with the dress code but I don't think I've heard of corporate workers clean up. Like ik they will like tidy up there areas but not full out cleaning day how they are talking about.
The people called OP in Story #1 YTA either are just as entitled or don't understand that no means NO. The sister 100% stole the car because she got verbal confirmation that she wasn't to take the car and she completely ignored OP's wishes and took the car anyway thanks to the Father who is just as entitled. It wasn't to prove a point, it was the fact that if her BF's sister damaged the car, she wanted to be protected and made sure that the Sister took the fall and rightfully so.
Story 2: NTA and I am legitimately confused as to what the actual problem is, The cousin is mad that OP went out in a white sundress in the same week as her wedding? Because is that's it then the cousin needs to take a massive chill pill.
Story 2: What? Half of the entire families mad at you because you wore a white sundress, 4 days before her wedding? This is one of the dumbest reason to be upset at some one on Reddit and that's saying a lot. Tell the family that you can upstage a bride four days before she's even in the wedding dresses. Even a bridezilla would call this entitled.
I would tell them all to go to hell. what idiots. I would also tell them that I tell their reaction to this on social media and everyone else see them as bloody idiots as well
I know, right? OP's cousin must be the most insecure bride I ever heard of. Talk about stupid! And the half of the family who has their shorts in a twist over this should check themselves into a nice mental health spa to help them recover the minds they have clearly lost! I hope OP enjoys the extra time with her boyfriend that she thought she'd miss over the wedding.
I’m imagining the bride telling the story years later. Kid: who’s that mommy? Bride: that’s OP. She’s entitled and we don’t talk to her Kid: Why Bride: She wore white on my wedding week! Kid: Huh? That’s not a thing. Did she wear it to your party? Bride: No. She wore it on a date and her bf took a pic and posted it online. Kid: Mom. Therapy can be your best friend
Additionally, I would have responded to their bashing on social media... seems bride is jealous of my sundress which looks better than her wedding dress and plus it suits me perfect...!!! Bridezilla is in dilemma she can't switch to sundress which OP has already worn and bridezilla has started hating its wedding dress... hence bridezilla is venting..😅😅😅😅
Story 1: nta. It just astounds me how the boyfriend’s sister is such a spoiled brat and that their father is basically enabling it. Because it was bad enough that she decided to go behind OP’s back and take her car even though she was told no but her father thought that since OP’s boyfriend helped pay for the car, even though he was already paid back the full amount, then in his mind that equals that the boyfriend had partial ownership which then by some twisted logic he believes that also means that his daughter had the right to use the car whenever she wanted. The report to the police was not only justified but also warranted. Because odds are that if OP didn’t do so to teach her a lesson then she would have more than likely done the same thing again over and over.
"I would let you get eaten by bears" "it will look bad if you don't attend" they should have thought about that when mistreating op all those years. Public opinion being more important than how you treat people is a huuuge narcissistic behaviour (which isnt the same as having full npd but if there's enough they add up)
@@danrossell6375 Plus the groom himself didn´t actually want OP there, he was just pressured by his mother, and I´m assuming the other siblings don´t want him there too. So yeah, not going is win win for everyone except stepmom.
Story 1: NTA! Just because you know who the thief is doesn’t mean people can take your car without permission! People excusing this shit is how we end up with Karen’s…
Just like the fact that they’re excusing Gold diggers, cheaters, toxic ex’s, and parental alienation and isolation. I’m not surprised that they were act like Karen’s now, with the amount of hypocrisy Reddit truly has
I really don't get their logic of, if you know the person then it's not actually stolen. If the owner says no, yet the person still takes it, it's stolen
Story 1: ETA/ YTA comment, just because she lives with them does not mean she owes them her car. She doesn't know the sister, that was the first time they have met. Would you give a complete stranger your car just because they were related to someone you know? And stealing means someone take something without permission so yes it was stolen, so it wasn't a false claim. What's wrong with you people? This one's the worst victim-blaming BS I've ever heard. you're in no way the a-hole, that is 100% your property especially since you paid back your BF the money he , she knew the answer was no but went behind your back to take it anyway, screw all these people, unless they're giving their car away to stranger they have no right to call you selfish.
If BF's sister had been in an accident, OP would have had problems. Sister wasn't on OP's insurance. OP didn't even know if sister had a valid driver's license. Depending on the exact circumstances, OP could be sued for damages caused by her.
Those ytas on story 1 are likely also boundary stompers. If she didn't treat this accordingly like the theft of her car, they would only keep doing this crap and escalating. Op was sensible and did the right thing here. Dad and sister are drama queen boundary stompers and need a reality check.
Story 1, NTA. "BF helped pay for the car therefore was partly his". I'm sorry but that's NO EXCUSE and is completely BS. He's showing the same entitlement as the sister and is trying to get out of trouble. BF has showed that he doesn't have any ownership and was only helping her. Parasite has no right to be angry since she was given a chance to immediately bring it back but instead says she'll be awhile. So naturally op was going to call the cops as parasite wasn't supposed to have the car in the first place. The entitled aholes are only mad about the consequences and no surprise that their demanding op apologize to them plus lie to the cops. I definitely agree with the comments saying that the entitled aholes will kick op out as they somehow feel they were wronged despite trying to take advantage of op. Completely disagree with ESH as it is a hill to die on and don't see how the commenter doesn't understand that. Just because they gave op a roof over her head doesn't mean that they can take advantage of anything they want. Parasite could have waited rather than practically steal op's car. Update, why am I not surprised that despite op saying no charges or anything they STILL think op tried to have them arrested and STILL demand an apology. Also, it's pretty common sense that if you don't know the person you DON'T want them using your car!! Op and BF are smart to not take sperm donor's words after everything. I wouldn't put it past him to especially kick op out.
@@dimitrihines2354 I know! Which shows further testament of their entitlement and expect op to just let them have their way. Their mad about the consequences and not getting their way which is typical with entitled aholes, specially when someone actually stands up to them.
Yeah even if it was her bf's car, it was still taken without permission. The only difference is that she would have stolen it from her brother instead of from her brother's gf.
Not practically stole sister did steal the car If a possession is taken without its owners permission that item is considered silken even if you know who stole it and exactly where they went with it(in this case the who is known but the where isn't as all they knew was sister was meeting friends) Sister should have planned better I always confirmed a ride before making plans before I got my lisense and car(I could with permission each time use my mom's car after getting my lisense but had to communicate to make sure she didn't have need of it, I did not abuse that privilege)
That person that says she is an idiot because she knew the bf sister had it is an idiot. It does not matter who took it it only matters that the person took it without permission.
@@carlrood4457 i dont think that matters. Cousin and half of the family were being unreasonable toward OP about wearing something white BEFORE day of wedding.
Unwanted groomsman INFO: Why is Ellen so desperate for OP to be in her son's wedding party? I bet OP's family or grandparents are threatening to disinherite Ellen's kids or something along those lines.
Story 1 - I can’t believe people are saying that OP is is the idiot. It’s still considered theft, even though you know who the perpetrator is. Also, the sister might not damage the car or have any indicators that she will damage it but an accident can always happen and you would not be covered if she damaged your car by getting into a Four car pileup.
Forget about "if she damaged my car" ...... there is a bigger problem if the sister were to be at fault, property damage and, god forbid, personal injury, or worse yet, somebody dies ..... yeah, the sister would be arrested .... maybe, but the other side would come after OP as the owner of the vehicle.
I have NEVER let anyone drive my car unless they were on my insurance, and even then they could only drive the car I designated for them. Some rando, which is what bf's sister is, would not be allowed. I think she should have called the police straight away so sis was found and held, with charges pressed. Op really needs to rethink her relationship with this family.
Story 1: Definitely NTA! Where I live, no one else is named on my car's liability insurance, so if an accident happens with some unnamed person driving it, I am fully liable! I would have to sue the unauthorized driver for whatever it costs for me to cover the damages. The sister was also from out of state. Ever try to sue someone who lives in another state? Sister was told NO. Sister could have called an Uber to take her where she wanted to go, or else wait for brother to get home. She stole the car.
S1: What are those last comments? The car _was_ stolen, the thief just happen to be the boyfriend's sister. No, Op living with them do not give them the right to do whatever they want with her things. If something was to happen to her car, they would not have the same polite courtesy that they comments are expecting Op to follow.
Story 3: everyone but you are terrible people. Like them you had no control over your parents getting married , they didn't have to like you but they did not have to be so verbally abusive to you. The parents however our worst because your dad didn't do anything, and your stepmom brunt of all of the abuse so she could have her picture perfect family. You have to deal with all of them when you were a child and had no choice, but you're an adult and can make the decision on your own now, and your logic is the exact reason why you're not the a-hole. Don't stay where you're not wanted, and since your stepmom pretty much had to force this do to put you in his wedding party, you're most definitely not wanted. She need to accept the fact that this family dynamic she keep trying to force is not real, and it never will be.
Sounds like OP's dad didn't want to parent, & the stepmother needed support financially having 4 kids, so their marriage might be like a trade off, since the kids opinions didn't matter to them.
I'm unsure which story number it is, but I LOVE THE BEAR SPRAY AND ATTACHED NOTE! Human mammals/animals who were there originally HAVE THIS MORE THAN COMING! to them in KARMA spades!
Story 1 - NTA. People commenting ESH or YTA sure are weirdly okay with loaning their cars to people they barely know. I’m fairly certain they wouldn’t hand over their keys to someone who they don’t know the driving history of and don’t know if they’re reliable, they just like feeling like they’re so noble and generous.
S1: Not too far. Had sister gotten into an accident OP would have been responsible - even more so since she'd be an uninsured driver. OPs insurance would have declined to pay and they'd be within their rights to drop her. People calling OP TA are clueless to the larger picture of vehicle ownership and liability.
On a spring cleaning day where we were purging file cabinet etc we were told to wear appropriate clothes we could get dirty. The day before I got on the schedule to meet an interviewee so I brought a change of clothes. When I changed everyone wanted to know why I bothered. I just thought that occasion demanded business clothes but I seemed to be in the minority!
5:58 So no one in the world is allowed to wear white anything anymore, at anytime, because people may think you got married or are mocking weddings. Not to mention it was (rechecking notes) 4-6 days before the wedding of a cousin; how could OP?
WTF do you mean “she didn’t steal it?” She asked, was told no and still took it anyways. Somebody else’s approval is irrelevant when the owner has already said no. I would’ve pressed charges if someone intentionally subverted my decision about my property.
Story : So, the person driving the car was not insured? That's an offence in itself, isn't it? If OP had not reported the car stolen and it was pulled over or got involved in an accident, the car would have been towed, leaving OP with the bill for recovery and the tickets.
Oh, she just "bortowed" it, daddy said it was okay, because his son loaned OP some money for the downpayment and therefore it is family property. What is so hard to understand about that? I mean, the golden child needed to go to another city, how dare she be denied?
So happy to see most of these comments in the first story are OK with someone taking their car without permission? I wonder if their judgment would still be the same if their car was stolen without permission and damaged, probably not, and they’ll end up looking like idiots in the end. The sister literally stole the car how hard is that to understand?
I'm hoping XO just grabbed heavily downvoted comments from the controversial section and that these are just an extremely rare opinion in the actual post.
White dress story- By the wording this was BEFORE the wedding not AT the wedding? Bruh, the bride doesn’t own the day, month, year, of the wedding. Unless OP was wearing an actual wedding dress and tagging everyone and showing off on purpose then I’d be sketchy
Take the win about the wedding. If you went you’d be given all sorts of tasks, and not enough time to finish them. Cousins should always take any “out” of a family wedding
_"wHy wOuLdn'T yOu wAnT hEr tO uSe yOuR CaR???"_ Uhhh, because if she wrecks and kills someone, guess who's gonna be sued? *THE CAR OWNER,* that's who. And someone *not* listed on the insurance, you can bet the insco would simply refuse to pay out anything, either. It's stoopit stoopit stoopit to lend a car even to your own mother if she's not on the paperwork.
0:25)Appears that the dimbulb car owner just missed coming under fire from a Yamato Class main guns. The spare key was in lock box that the BF's father had access to. Possible consent for him to use it or, as her agent, allow others to drive the car. Unless the sister has her own insurance, she was driving uninsured. Does she have a driver's license?
3:40 it is not her boyfriends car simply because he loaned her money for it and specially since she paid it back andit is not a false report when the only owner of the car has said no. Family which they ain't even but even if they were it would still be theft
Story 1: Those who claim the car wasn't stolen aren't the brightest among us. The sister asked to use the car, was told no, and took it anyway. How is that not theft??? I would have called the police, too. No apology is needed.
The clowns at the end of the first story had me rolling. "She didn't steal it!" She took it without permission after being explicitly told no. Last I checked that's called stealing. Doesn't matter if the dad "gave his permission"
Last story -so this is very funny, because I literally just had this talk in the office yesterday, but the problem with young people not understanding how you need to dress in a professional environment, mostly comes from the fact that schools have relaxed their dress code. When I was in high school, I would not have gotten away with all the things that highschoolers nowadays wear. Or even the things they were wearing 10 years ago. When I was in high school sleeves had to be at least 3 inches wide across on your shoulder. Shorts or skirts could not be shorter than 3 inches above the back of your knees. And walking around with your midriff showing in the middle of the school day was gonna get you sent home. Edit-my sister reminded me that cheerleaders could have their midriff showing while they were in their cheer uniforms during games. Whoop de do.
Lol that Op’s cousin seems to believe that the rule “don’t wear a white dress to a wedding” extends to others wearing casual, white clothing in public within a week of said date. She’s either incredibly insecure, a bridezilla or both.
Always call the police. Period. The sister didn't even have a right to the brother's car LET ALONE op's car. Wtf yo. And to the people that say the car wasn't stolen, I'm assuming you're a narcissistic and would steal someone's car if they told you no. Because taking a car that's not yours when you've been told no is THEFT. End of.
BF's sister; knew she was denied access to the car, took it anyway. If something happened to the car or worse, others were hurt during that use of the car without the owner's knowledge or permission, Damn straight I'd report it stolen. Car owner would still be the pocket that the injured would go after. NTA
Lol, Op... you do know that not being invited to a wedding means you’re not obligated to give a gift. The day before the wedding post four pictures of yourself wearing a lovely little black dress. Every woman should have one.
First story OP did the right thing. The sister need a scare so she won't do it again. What if she ended up in an accident , who's fault would this be .Of course the father would blame Op .
Op, send stepbrother a gift of: an inexpensive statue of a grizzly bear... somehow include an easy to read plaque: “you said to me: “You could be mauled by bears and left for dead and we wouldn’t do a damn thing to help you.” Happy wedding day. Op.” Make sure the words can be read from three feet away. Somehow sneak it into the event so several guests can see it.
The car belongs to OP and OP alone. She doesn't have to loan her car to anyone!!! If someone took my car without permission, I would have done worse to them. WTF!! So nobody can take pictures of themselves and share them. Damn, people can be so immature. Usually, spring cleaning in a corporate job is goingnthroughbold paperwork, not scrubbing the floors.
1: taking something without permission is called theft peoples!! What if I ask the cop to "borrow" his patrol car to go to the store!? He says no, but I take it regardless!! I'm going to jail...I will not pass GO and I will not collect $200.00!!
Story #1. OP is NOT the idiot. Who takes somebody's car after being told NO. They don't know if OP'S insurance covers anybody else driving the car. In an accident she could possibly be sued. My brother will not even drive anybody car. Father-in-law and sister-in-law are the idiots.
1st Story: NTA. BF’s sister isn’t listed on the title or as a driver under OP’s insurance so technically no, she had no right to take the car even after being told no. That is a huge liability concern. In general if someone tells you no, it doesn’t mean go around asking other people until you get the answer you wanna hear. That is only something a small child would do. OP’s BF helping to pay for the car doesn’t mean crap about anything. You get a loan from the bank does that mean the bank gets to go take your car out for a Sunday drive? No. The car was taken without OP’s permission or her awareness, so yes the car was stolen. People are so dense.
Story 1: "People asking "why I won't let her borrow the car"" These are people who need to know that "No" is a full sentence and doesn't need an explanation in most cases. It should have been pretty obvious why you don't allow strangers to take your car and yes, in this situation, the older sister is a stranger to OP. Not only could they damage the car, but they are NOT on the insurance. Even if the sister is a safe driver, other people aren't.
Spring cleaning day? As long as i'm paid for it all good, having a tidy workspace makes the work easier. If they expect me to volunteer my time, well they can whistle dixie
Car story- The ESH commenter is an idiot. Just because she ran some errands with someone else ONE day doesn’t mean daddy and daughter have rights to someone else’s property. With that logic, OP can toss all the families belongings in the yard and say “move somewhere else. You left the house and OBVIOUSLY weren’t using it so it’s mine now. Pick your battles.” Such stupidity
Story 1: Even if Dad's logic was valid, which it wasn't, and BF had any claim to the car, he said No to Sis borrowing it. Neither Dad nor Sis have a leg to stand on.
If OP pays anything to the dad that could be desidered rent, food money, bills - then she can even spin this around: "I pay, so I partially own it and can do with it whatever I want..."
Why is ANYONE saying OP sucks. Be it in general or on her own??? What? The sister DID steal the car. It WASN'T a false report. If OP had given permission for the sister to drive it, then I could see it being a false report. But OP said sister couldn't drive her car and sister took in anyway. And no, just because the boyfriend's parents are being incredibly generous to let OP stay with them while they save and work and take care of themselves, nor the fact that the boyfriend helped OP purchase the car (ESPECIALLY since OP payed him back already) justifies what future father-in-law did.
Car story, all those who thought OP was wrong very likely do not own a car as in bought it themselves with their own money. Let’s see, if we then took anything that you did own and bought with your own money and had it ‘borrowed’ you would be well pi**ed off so it’s even worse when it a very expensive car. Likewise if your ‘borrowed’ item was damaged you would be mad as hell. So why shouldn’t she file a police report - the sister was driving (taken without owner consent) a stolen car with no insurance tax or whatever. Now let’s look at the bigger picture; say the sister was involved in a fatal accident? The sister and the father (aiding and abetting a felony) would be liable and be sued, arrested with the sister doing prison time, the father given liability would lose any assets owned after being sued! I could go on and on so anyone who sympathises with the sister/father needs their heads fixed. Talk to someone who has lost someone to an uninsured driver and get some perspective!
“You knew the car wasn’t stolen: It was with your boyfriend’s sister.” Yeah, the sister who stole the car. OP’s car, which she was explicitly told not to drive. The car she took without permission, aka stole. Just because her boyfriend’s family member stole the car doesn’t mean it wasn’t stolen. If the sister had damaged the STOLEN car, OP would have been liable. It was wise to report it stolen both to avoid said situation and to get her STOLEN property back.
Story 1: NTA. Those last two comments are on some full on bullsh*t. The sister is a thief. She was told NO. That was it. Is this the hill to die on? What kinda relationship future do they have if the dad and sister is like this? Gald they're moving out. Op doesn't have to agree to a basic stranger driving her car. Because she would be legally liable if anything happened.
The idiots calling her the asshole in story 1 seem to forget that if the sister isn't on the insurance for the car, it's both illegal for op to let her drive it and really stupid, since any damage to the car wouldn't be covered. 🤦♀️
First story - OP, NTI at all whatsoever !!! All those twats calling you selfish or any other name.... ask them if they are willing to loan THEIR vehicle to someone they don’t know !!! Seriously, I know a LOT of people that would love a vehicle to have to drive around and do whatever they wish with it !!! Your BF sounds like he is very supportive, but his family is a bunch of red flags. Good luck.
1st story. Those who are calling OP an AH for calling the police are ignoring the fact that the BF's sister STOLE the car, the BF's father is an accomplice. Stealing is what happens when someone is told they can't use someone else's property and they do so anyway. Its not borrowing, its stealing. OP was also liable for anything damages that the sister might have caused, hence the very firm NO that OP told her. 2nd story. WTF? 3rd story. Why do people keep trying force relationships between people who openly despise each other? 4th story. Ash is right, she was hauled over the coals by the boss to dress comfortably, no sweats, after that very boss instructed her to wear comfortable clothes.
I'm sorry what did I hear on the car one did a commenter really say YTA to OP and that she made a false report? car was taken without her permission...she had already said no.... that sounds like theft to be no matter how related the person was. Also, she would have as owner been responsible if the bf's sister had gotten into an accident while driving her car cause the sister is not insured in that car.
for real i was so confused that, for a second, i thought i had accidentally skipped to further ahead in this video and teh yta was for a different story 😭
#1 My bf helped me put a down payment on my car that I'm still leasing and I've have since paid him back and put more financially into the car than he has, so it's MY car. His name was not included, it still isn't. I'm the primary driver. I let my dad occasionally take it as he has no vehicle and it's maybe once a month if he asks. But that's my dad and he's about the ONLY person I trust to drive my car in my family... even more than my brother obviously. I made the mistake of not reporting my old roommate when she took my car and told me after the fact and ended up causing 5K in damages. Cars are expensive and boundaries are meant to be respected. They ignored all of that just to let the sister go see friends. Which could've included drinking and unsafe things??? NTA #2 WHY? #3 Literally Step Mom was in a daze the entire time and dad needs to get his head out of his ass and realize his "happiness" is destroying his sons. #4 Lol girl bye
4:09 Found the sister's account. Seriously...if the sister wrecked, OP's insurance won't cover damages if she was at fault, unless OP reported it stolen. She's not insured on OP's vehicle, so she should have no business driving it ANYWAY.
The unpopular option is a terrible one. Some people have a "no one can use my car ever" rule and because crashing is expensive, that's a reasonable rule.
Just imagining the insurance nightmare if she did crash.😳
Or the I’m the only one on the insurance that’s why rule. Curious to know how and or why bfs dad had access to the spare key
That's why it's so unpopular! DUH!
Clearly the person doesn't understand what it means to have someone practically steal their car when the person was told no and be scared about what could happen.
@@onepieceisking5493 "your car wasn't stolen, SIL had it" 😑 🤦♀️
I rolled my eyes at the comment about how her car wasn't stolen. News flash, when someone tells you "no" and you take it anyways that is stealing. Just like when you say no to a man and he forces himself on you anyways that is grape. Consent is what matters in these situations. It was stolen!
I see a lot of prison time in that idiot commenter's future.
Story 1: BAFFLED at the ppl saying OP is the idiot, are we kidding?!? She said NO and seeing how they operate, they would NOT take responsibility for anything that happened to her car. Doesn’t matter if she’s staying with them, she can still have boundaries! It’s not borrowing a pen, be serious.
These are ppl who 💯 would or already have taken a relative's car without permission
NTA - I don't loan my vehicles to strangers either whether they are related to me or my SO. OP don't know their driving capabilities, driving record, or common sense as far as drinking and driving. She didn't know where she took her car, or when it will be back. 2.5 hours after being told be back soon....is not soon enough. No report was filed. OP doesn't owe anyone an apology but sister sure owes OP one for taking the car after being told No when asked. Does Dad have a car he could have loaned her?!
Seriously! And so what if the bf helped her to pay it? She paid him back. He isn't a co-signer or anything of the sort. Even if he was a co-signer, it doesn't give him, let alone a third party the right to hand out the damn keys.
@@LynetteTheRogue or are Karens and entitled aholes.
@@ashh4929 exactly 💯. Which means the so called excuse is completely BS. Even if his name was on it he did say no. So even then the BS excuse would be completely BS.
Story 1. I can't believe people are telling her a stolen car is no big deal, if an uninsured driver wrecks that's 30k-50k in this economy. Obviously there are a lot of children commenting on her post
Here insurance is tied to vehicle, not the driver. But ofc if someone else crashed, owner suffers and insurance payments go up.
They both said no. Even they know who took the car, it was still taken withou permission of the owner aka stolen.
They called her to come back before calling police.
Also, just because someone is related to your SO, it doesn't make them good/trusted person.
I know my siblings are I am very uncomfortable borrowing my car to them.
@@duckeh1952 I believe that varies from country to country whether the car insurance is driver or car based, but yeah no one should drive without insurance.
Story 1: "Too far" was stealing the car.
OP said no, and when it was taken anyway she told them to bring it back and they didn't. Reporting it stolen is the next step, especially when they show no regard for their actions.
Story 1, the people saying OP filed a false report clearly have no idea what they are talking about.
Story 1: Just b/c you know who stole the item doesn't mean it's not stolen. OP said no, she took it anyway. Thus, it's stolen.
And she didn’t return it when she said she would. What if she got in an accident. Police needed to know to look for her for her well being too
Imagine if they applied the same logic to child abduction 😬 “it can’t be kidnapping if (insert family/friend/whatever relation here) took them”
If you take anything without permission,that is stealing. PERIOD!!!
S1: GOOD! Always call the police. Always file.
If we don’t file, it’s bcz they better not do it again. Or they’re in a place jail would be detrimental. Aka some relatives with addiction needed compassion and rehab, not jail. They’re sober and thriving now. Jail would’ve been 10 years. I’ll never get some heirlooms back but I have my family. Those are my few exceptions
As someone who works in auto insurance, always file a report. If you don’t and she didn’t have permission, insurance won’t pay for damages or injuries. If there is a police report, they will. At least in the states.
Even if there was no damage to the car, what if the thief ran a red light or did something else to warrant a ticket mailed to OP since it’s her vehicle?
Which is why the commentators that said OP was the idiot were completely wrong. There is a big risk for OP.
Story 1 every piece of shir saying OP is the idiot is why people like the sister are getting away with this shit stfu toxic ass holes they are such enablers great world we live in when so many people are outright idiotic
Just because you know who has something doesn't mean it isn't stolen. She knew she didn't have permission when the dad handed the keys over. She was told no by the owner. She stole it.
Exactly, it's taking without consent.
"Unauthorized use of an automobile"
Sundress story: There is being a bridezilla and then there is whatever OP's cousin has going on. OP is either really pretty and cousin was jelaous or the cousin is nuts, both things can coexist.
Would love to see the flying moneys or cousins face if she has said the thing about looking so good she stole the spotlight 96 hours before the wedding. I'm a petty bitch so that really appeals to the gremlin inside.
The only reason that story could have happened without some mysterious mass insanity in the family would be if the bride bought that same white sundress to serve as her wedding/reception dress. And then she assumed the OP knew, and the picture of OP in that same white dress was maliciously ruining the wedding plans.
After telling the sister no twice, asking someone who doesn’t own the car doesn’t have the authority to give permission.
My ex called the police when I took the car he drove to work, while we were still settle the divorce. The police asked if he knew who and he admitted it w mt likely the co-owner -me. They said then it wasn’t stolen! They may have asked if I had a key which I did.
I was willing to sign over the car but I wanted the house settled and he was refusing to accept offers and wouldn’t counter offer either. -- it partially worked.
RE: Spring Cleaning Day
Make Note: Janitors are not allowed to look at, and especially not sort, proprietary information.
Spring Cleaning Day in an office is NOT vacuuming and dusting, it's going through the files and folders, it's going through things that have piled up on your desk, it's justifying the 6 inch diameter rubber band ball to the boss etc. etc.
Absolutely! That commenter who said something negative about using office workers as janitorial staff has clearly never worked in an office setting. Also, that was a pretty elitist attitude.
Ah, thanks!
I think the last comment was the correct one.
Ok, than why would it be required to have clothing you wouldn’t care to dirty it up while “spring cleaning” ?
@@mandykawaii1646 desks get dusty and people get sweaty. i wouldn’t want to clean my desk out in my nice pants and shirt bc it would also just get generally uncomfortable
"what sort of job uses their workers as janitorial staff" Pretty much every employment contract in New Zealand has a clause "other duties as directed".
Really that's interesting. I'm from the US I've never heard of such a thing.
The US do too. Also most corporate jobs have dress codes and showing skin in the navel area is inappropriate. No matter if it was cleaning day or not.
@@briannawilliams2867 Never really seen it used much but when we move floors or offices we pack crap up and move it so I guess there is that - we are not movers but do it. But Kiwis are not afraid to roll their shirt sleeves up and do what has to be done. We are also not status obsessed like so many Americans seem to be.
@@thecoolgrandma7208 I’m confused because I live in the US and this is a first for me. I’ve literally never heard of office workers doing spring cleaning. I didn’t have to at any of my jobs unless I was working retail.
@@thecoolgrandma7208 Yea ik and agree with the dress code but I don't think I've heard of corporate workers clean up. Like ik they will like tidy up there areas but not full out cleaning day how they are talking about.
The people called OP in Story #1 YTA either are just as entitled or don't understand that no means NO. The sister 100% stole the car because she got verbal confirmation that she wasn't to take the car and she completely ignored OP's wishes and took the car anyway thanks to the Father who is just as entitled. It wasn't to prove a point, it was the fact that if her BF's sister damaged the car, she wanted to be protected and made sure that the Sister took the fall and rightfully so.
@JaneDoe1812. Its the same logic people use to park in handicap spaces. No one was using it at the tome so it should be ok.
Story 2: NTA and I am legitimately confused as to what the actual problem is, The cousin is mad that OP went out in a white sundress in the same week as her wedding? Because is that's it then the cousin needs to take a massive chill pill.
I wonder if a family troublemaker, lying, told the cousin that OP planned to wear the dress at the wedding
Story 2: What? Half of the entire families mad at you because you wore a white sundress, 4 days before her wedding? This is one of the dumbest reason to be upset at some one on Reddit and that's saying a lot. Tell the family that you can upstage a bride four days before she's even in the wedding dresses. Even a bridezilla would call this entitled.
I would tell them all to go to hell. what idiots. I would also tell them that I tell their reaction to this on social media and everyone else see them as bloody idiots as well
I know, right? OP's cousin must be the most insecure bride I ever heard of. Talk about stupid! And the half of the family who has their shorts in a twist over this should check themselves into a nice mental health spa to help them recover the minds they have clearly lost!
I hope OP enjoys the extra time with her boyfriend that she thought she'd miss over the wedding.
It is that the comments explained it, cause i was lost. What the heck did i just read.. my word what a stupid story.
I’m imagining the bride telling the story years later. Kid: who’s that mommy?
Bride: that’s OP. She’s entitled and we don’t talk to her
Kid: Why
Bride: She wore white on my wedding week!
Kid: Huh? That’s not a thing. Did she wear it to your party?
Bride: No. She wore it on a date and her bf took a pic and posted it online.
Kid: Mom. Therapy can be your best friend
Additionally, I would have responded to their bashing on social media... seems bride is jealous of my sundress which looks better than her wedding dress and plus it suits me perfect...!!! Bridezilla is in dilemma she can't switch to sundress which OP has already worn and bridezilla has started hating its wedding dress... hence bridezilla is venting..😅😅😅😅
Story 1: nta. It just astounds me how the boyfriend’s sister is such a spoiled brat and that their father is basically enabling it. Because it was bad enough that she decided to go behind OP’s back and take her car even though she was told no but her father thought that since OP’s boyfriend helped pay for the car, even though he was already paid back the full amount, then in his mind that equals that the boyfriend had partial ownership which then by some twisted logic he believes that also means that his daughter had the right to use the car whenever she wanted. The report to the police was not only justified but also warranted. Because odds are that if OP didn’t do so to teach her a lesson then she would have more than likely done the same thing again over and over.
"I would let you get eaten by bears" "it will look bad if you don't attend" they should have thought about that when mistreating op all those years. Public opinion being more important than how you treat people is a huuuge narcissistic behaviour (which isnt the same as having full npd but if there's enough they add up)
You aren't wanted there and you'd prefer to not be there. DON"T GO.
@@danrossell6375 Plus the groom himself didn´t actually want OP there, he was just pressured by his mother, and I´m assuming the other siblings don´t want him there too. So yeah, not going is win win for everyone except stepmom.
The bear spray suggestion in one of the s3 comments really made me laugh - brilliantly petty!
Story 1: NTA! Just because you know who the thief is doesn’t mean people can take your car without permission! People excusing this shit is how we end up with Karen’s…
Just like the fact that they’re excusing Gold diggers, cheaters, toxic ex’s, and parental alienation and isolation. I’m not surprised that they were act like Karen’s now, with the amount of hypocrisy Reddit truly has
Exactly 💯
Couldn't agree more. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the commenters were Karens and entitled aholes.
I really don't get their logic of, if you know the person then it's not actually stolen. If the owner says no, yet the person still takes it, it's stolen
@JediMasters14 Yeah, by that logic, kids who steal from their family to buy drugs aren't thieves. It's a ridiculous slippery road to go down.
Story 1: ETA/ YTA comment, just because she lives with them does not mean she owes them her car. She doesn't know the sister, that was the first time they have met. Would you give a complete stranger your car just because they were related to someone you know? And stealing means someone take something without permission so yes it was stolen, so it wasn't a false claim. What's wrong with you people? This one's the worst victim-blaming BS I've ever heard. you're in no way the a-hole, that is 100% your property especially since you paid back your BF the money he , she knew the answer was no but went behind your back to take it anyway, screw all these people, unless they're giving their car away to stranger they have no right to call you selfish.
If BF's sister had been in an accident, OP would have had problems. Sister wasn't on OP's insurance. OP didn't even know if sister had a valid driver's license. Depending on the exact circumstances, OP could be sued for damages caused by her.
Those ytas on story 1 are likely also boundary stompers. If she didn't treat this accordingly like the theft of her car, they would only keep doing this crap and escalating.
Op was sensible and did the right thing here. Dad and sister are drama queen boundary stompers and need a reality check.
Story 1, NTA. "BF helped pay for the car therefore was partly his". I'm sorry but that's NO EXCUSE and is completely BS. He's showing the same entitlement as the sister and is trying to get out of trouble. BF has showed that he doesn't have any ownership and was only helping her. Parasite has no right to be angry since she was given a chance to immediately bring it back but instead says she'll be awhile. So naturally op was going to call the cops as parasite wasn't supposed to have the car in the first place. The entitled aholes are only mad about the consequences and no surprise that their demanding op apologize to them plus lie to the cops. I definitely agree with the comments saying that the entitled aholes will kick op out as they somehow feel they were wronged despite trying to take advantage of op. Completely disagree with ESH as it is a hill to die on and don't see how the commenter doesn't understand that. Just because they gave op a roof over her head doesn't mean that they can take advantage of anything they want. Parasite could have waited rather than practically steal op's car. Update, why am I not surprised that despite op saying no charges or anything they STILL think op tried to have them arrested and STILL demand an apology. Also, it's pretty common sense that if you don't know the person you DON'T want them using your car!! Op and BF are smart to not take sperm donor's words after everything. I wouldn't put it past him to especially kick op out.
What’s funny is the boyfriend also said no, so there’s literally no reason he should have done that.
@@dimitrihines2354 I know! Which shows further testament of their entitlement and expect op to just let them have their way. Their mad about the consequences and not getting their way which is typical with entitled aholes, specially when someone actually stands up to them.
Yeah even if it was her bf's car, it was still taken without permission. The only difference is that she would have stolen it from her brother instead of from her brother's gf.
@@LynetteTheRogue pretty much. So the so called excuse would have been BS either way. Which again shows their entitlement.
Not practically stole sister did steal the car
If a possession is taken without its owners permission that item is considered silken even if you know who stole it and exactly where they went with it(in this case the who is known but the where isn't as all they knew was sister was meeting friends)
Sister should have planned better I always confirmed a ride before making plans before I got my lisense and car(I could with permission each time use my mom's car after getting my lisense but had to communicate to make sure she didn't have need of it, I did not abuse that privilege)
These last comments in story 1😂😂😂😂
If the OWNER of the car says No and you take it, it's stolen!. Lmao
That person that says she is an idiot because she knew the bf sister had it is an idiot. It does not matter who took it it only matters that the person took it without permission.
S2: what? OP was yelled at for wearing a white 'sundress' FOUR days before the wedding??? Cousin sounds insecure and entitled.
@@carlrood4457 i dont think that matters. Cousin and half of the family were being unreasonable toward OP about wearing something white BEFORE day of wedding.
Unwanted groomsman INFO: Why is Ellen so desperate for OP to be in her son's wedding party? I bet OP's family or grandparents are threatening to disinherite Ellen's kids or something along those lines.
Story 1 - I can’t believe people are saying that OP is is the idiot. It’s still considered theft, even though you know who the perpetrator is. Also, the sister might not damage the car or have any indicators that she will damage it but an accident can always happen and you would not be covered if she damaged your car by getting into a Four car pileup.
Forget about "if she damaged my car" ...... there is a bigger problem if the sister were to be at fault, property damage and, god forbid, personal injury, or worse yet, somebody dies ..... yeah, the sister would be arrested .... maybe, but the other side would come after OP as the owner of the vehicle.
Story 2: This is so ridiculous that I wasn't even sure what OP had supposedly done wrong until I got to the comments 😂
Same. I was like 'what now...?' Couldn't/cannot understand why that was a thing. 🤷🏾♀️🤯
I have NEVER let anyone drive my car unless they were on my insurance, and even then they could only drive the car I designated for them. Some rando, which is what bf's sister is, would not be allowed.
I think she should have called the police straight away so sis was found and held, with charges pressed.
Op really needs to rethink her relationship with this family.
2nd story- that cousin must be a complete abomination in terms of looks if she and the family reacted that way to a sun dress.
Story 1: Definitely NTA! Where I live, no one else is named on my car's liability insurance, so if an accident happens with some unnamed person driving it, I am fully liable! I would have to sue the unauthorized driver for whatever it costs for me to cover the damages. The sister was also from out of state. Ever try to sue someone who lives in another state? Sister was told NO. Sister could have called an Uber to take her where she wanted to go, or else wait for brother to get home. She stole the car.
S1: What are those last comments? The car _was_ stolen, the thief just happen to be the boyfriend's sister. No, Op living with them do not give them the right to do whatever they want with her things. If something was to happen to her car, they would not have the same polite courtesy that they comments are expecting Op to follow.
Story 3: everyone but you are terrible people. Like them you had no control over your parents getting married , they didn't have to like you but they did not have to be so verbally abusive to you. The parents however our worst because your dad didn't do anything, and your stepmom brunt of all of the abuse so she could have her picture perfect family. You have to deal with all of them when you were a child and had no choice, but you're an adult and can make the decision on your own now, and your logic is the exact reason why you're not the a-hole. Don't stay where you're not wanted, and since your stepmom pretty much had to force this do to put you in his wedding party, you're most definitely not wanted. She need to accept the fact that this family dynamic she keep trying to force is not real, and it never will be.
😂😂😂 loved the suggestion to gift bear repellant 🛍
@@thecoolgrandma7208 Me, too!
Sounds like OP's dad didn't want to parent, & the stepmother needed support financially having 4 kids, so their marriage might be like a trade off, since the kids opinions didn't matter to them.
Yeah, they went after OP because he was an easy target. The parents really let him down.
I'm unsure which story number it is, but I LOVE THE BEAR SPRAY AND ATTACHED NOTE! Human mammals/animals who were there originally HAVE THIS MORE THAN COMING! to them in KARMA spades!
Yeah, that would be the best wedding present ever. lol.
Story 1 - NTA. People commenting ESH or YTA sure are weirdly okay with loaning their cars to people they barely know. I’m fairly certain they wouldn’t hand over their keys to someone who they don’t know the driving history of and don’t know if they’re reliable, they just like feeling like they’re so noble and generous.
Its all about Ellen. She wants to look the perfect family.
S1: Not too far. Had sister gotten into an accident OP would have been responsible - even more so since she'd be an uninsured driver. OPs insurance would have declined to pay and they'd be within their rights to drop her. People calling OP TA are clueless to the larger picture of vehicle ownership and liability.
On a spring cleaning day where we were purging file cabinet etc we were told to wear appropriate clothes we could get dirty. The day before I got on the schedule to meet an interviewee so I brought a change of clothes. When I changed everyone wanted to know why I bothered. I just thought that occasion demanded business clothes but I seemed to be in the minority!
5:58 So no one in the world is allowed to wear white anything anymore, at anytime, because people may think you got married or are mocking weddings. Not to mention it was (rechecking notes) 4-6 days before the wedding of a cousin; how could OP?
WTF do you mean “she didn’t steal it?” She asked, was told no and still took it anyways. Somebody else’s approval is irrelevant when the owner has already said no. I would’ve pressed charges if someone intentionally subverted my decision about my property.
Story : So, the person driving the car was not insured? That's an offence in itself, isn't it? If OP had not reported the car stolen and it was pulled over or got involved in an accident, the car would have been towed, leaving OP with the bill for recovery and the tickets.
Story 1: OP said "No, you can't take my car." But it was taken anyway. If I'm not mistaken that is theft pure and simple.
Oh, she just "bortowed" it, daddy said it was okay, because his son loaned OP some money for the downpayment and therefore it is family property. What is so hard to understand about that?
I mean, the golden child needed to go to another city, how dare she be denied?
So happy to see most of these comments in the first story are OK with someone taking their car without permission? I wonder if their judgment would still be the same if their car was stolen without permission and damaged, probably not, and they’ll end up looking like idiots in the end. The sister literally stole the car how hard is that to understand?
I'm hoping XO just grabbed heavily downvoted comments from the controversial section and that these are just an extremely rare opinion in the actual post.
White dress story-
By the wording this was BEFORE the wedding not AT the wedding? Bruh, the bride doesn’t own the day, month, year, of the wedding. Unless OP was wearing an actual wedding dress and tagging everyone and showing off on purpose then I’d be sketchy
There’s always at least one idiot with a YTA ruling against the victim of a situation.
Take the win about the wedding. If you went you’d be given all sorts of tasks, and not enough time to finish them. Cousins should always take any “out” of a family wedding
_"wHy wOuLdn'T yOu wAnT hEr tO uSe yOuR CaR???"_
Uhhh, because if she wrecks and kills someone, guess who's gonna be sued? *THE CAR OWNER,* that's who.
And someone *not* listed on the insurance, you can bet the insco would simply refuse to pay out anything, either.
It's stoopit stoopit stoopit to lend a car even to your own mother if she's not on the paperwork.
Guaranteed those people asking that wouldn't lend their own car out, but will judge others for saying 'no'. Total hypocrites
0:25)Appears that the dimbulb car owner just missed coming under fire from a Yamato Class main guns. The spare key was in lock box that the BF's father had access to. Possible consent for him to use it or, as her agent, allow others to drive the car. Unless the sister has her own insurance, she was driving uninsured. Does she have a driver's license?
3:40 it is not her boyfriends car simply because he loaned her money for it and specially since she paid it back andit is not a false report when the only owner of the car has said no. Family which they ain't even but even if they were it would still be theft
Story 1: Those who claim the car wasn't stolen aren't the brightest among us. The sister asked to use the car, was told no, and took it anyway. How is that not theft??? I would have called the police, too. No apology is needed.
The clowns at the end of the first story had me rolling. "She didn't steal it!" She took it without permission after being explicitly told no. Last I checked that's called stealing. Doesn't matter if the dad "gave his permission"
Yeah, by their logic, teens who steal stuff from their parents for drug money didn't actually steal.
Story 3 the step mother isn't blind to her kids hate she just doesn't give a damn about any of their wants
"Car wasn't stolen"? Taking something without asking or when someone says no IS stealing.
S4 NTA Ash knew she was dressed inappropriately. It's called common sense. She's just pissed they didn't send her home.
Last story -so this is very funny, because I literally just had this talk in the office yesterday, but the problem with young people not understanding how you need to dress in a professional environment, mostly comes from the fact that schools have relaxed their dress code. When I was in high school, I would not have gotten away with all the things that highschoolers nowadays wear. Or even the things they were wearing 10 years ago. When I was in high school sleeves had to be at least 3 inches wide across on your shoulder. Shorts or skirts could not be shorter than 3 inches above the back of your knees. And walking around with your midriff showing in the middle of the school day was gonna get you sent home.
Edit-my sister reminded me that cheerleaders could have their midriff showing while they were in their cheer uniforms during games. Whoop de do.
The thing about stealing is that it's taken without permission. So the only thing OP can do it report the car stolen. What if SIL ran someone over ?
Story 1. Here in the U.K. the offence is not car theft but “taking without the owner’s consent” which is exactly what happened
Here in the US taking without the owners consent would still count as theft particular auto theft.
Lol that Op’s cousin seems to believe that the rule “don’t wear a white dress to a wedding” extends to others wearing casual, white clothing in public within a week of said date. She’s either incredibly insecure, a bridezilla or both.
Or possibly temporarily insane
@@nannettepolcastro4799
I think you’ve summed up a bridezilla in a a nutshell 😂
Knowing who stole your property does not make said stolen item not stolen.
Always call the police. Period.
The sister didn't even have a right to the brother's car LET ALONE op's car. Wtf yo.
And to the people that say the car wasn't stolen, I'm assuming you're a narcissistic and would steal someone's car if they told you no. Because taking a car that's not yours when you've been told no is THEFT. End of.
BF's sister; knew she was denied access to the car, took it anyway. If something happened to the car or worse, others were hurt during that use of the car without the owner's knowledge or permission, Damn straight I'd report it stolen. Car owner would still be the pocket that the injured would go after. NTA
Lol, Op... you do know that not being invited to a wedding means you’re not obligated to give a gift. The day before the wedding post four pictures of yourself wearing a lovely little black dress. Every woman should have one.
The YTA are idiots. If the sister wrecked, the OP is on the hook. And the bf don't have any claim on the car. She paid back the down payment
Yeah. Corporate doesn't do hoochie even on cleaning day. But I'd be asking why tf I was being asked to clean.
First story OP did the right thing. The sister need a scare so she won't do it again.
What if she ended up in an accident , who's fault would this be .Of course the father would blame Op .
Story 1: I wonder if the boyfriend misrepresented his contribution to his father?
Op, send stepbrother a gift of: an inexpensive statue of a grizzly bear... somehow include an easy to read plaque: “you said to me: “You could be mauled by bears and left for dead and we wouldn’t do a damn thing to help you.” Happy wedding day. Op.”
Make sure the words can be read from three feet away.
Somehow sneak it into the event so several guests can see it.
The car belongs to OP and OP alone. She doesn't have to loan her car to anyone!!! If someone took my car without permission, I would have done worse to them.
WTF!! So nobody can take pictures of themselves and share them. Damn, people can be so immature.
Usually, spring cleaning in a corporate job is goingnthroughbold paperwork, not scrubbing the floors.
Or cleaning out your cubicles
OP NTA. If your not able to wear sweats on clean up day in the office, how does she think a crop top is appropriate
Don't go to the wedding, the theme may be "bears" and you'll be up a creek without a paddle. 😂
NTA his father had no business giving his sister her car keys. No way no how.
1: taking something without permission is called theft peoples!! What if I ask the cop to "borrow" his patrol car to go to the store!? He says no, but I take it regardless!! I'm going to jail...I will not pass GO and I will not collect $200.00!!
Story #1. OP is NOT the idiot. Who takes somebody's car after being told NO. They don't know if OP'S insurance covers anybody else driving the car. In an accident she could possibly be sued. My brother will not even drive anybody car. Father-in-law and sister-in-law are the idiots.
Story 2: Cousin sounds like they celebrate a birthday month.
Last story: I can tell the ones who never worked in Corporate before 😅
Last story, the only time I am cleaning any office is when I’m hire to clean. I was going to change, I was walking out.
1st Story: NTA. BF’s sister isn’t listed on the title or as a driver under OP’s insurance so technically no, she had no right to take the car even after being told no. That is a huge liability concern. In general if someone tells you no, it doesn’t mean go around asking other people until you get the answer you wanna hear. That is only something a small child would do. OP’s BF helping to pay for the car doesn’t mean crap about anything. You get a loan from the bank does that mean the bank gets to go take your car out for a Sunday drive? No. The car was taken without OP’s permission or her awareness, so yes the car was stolen. People are so dense.
Story 1: "People asking "why I won't let her borrow the car"" These are people who need to know that "No" is a full sentence and doesn't need an explanation in most cases. It should have been pretty obvious why you don't allow strangers to take your car and yes, in this situation, the older sister is a stranger to OP. Not only could they damage the car, but they are NOT on the insurance. Even if the sister is a safe driver, other people aren't.
Those people think cars are 'public property', or that 'asking' gets an automatic 'yes'
Last story: I'm really getting fed up with lazy women saying this or that is misogyny every time theres something they don't want to do.
Spring cleaning day? As long as i'm paid for it all good, having a tidy workspace makes the work easier.
If they expect me to volunteer my time, well they can whistle dixie
She stole it once, she'll steal it again.
Car story-
The ESH commenter is an idiot. Just because she ran some errands with someone else ONE day doesn’t mean daddy and daughter have rights to someone else’s property. With that logic, OP can toss all the families belongings in the yard and say “move somewhere else. You left the house and OBVIOUSLY weren’t using it so it’s mine now. Pick your battles.”
Such stupidity
The sister is a stranger who is not insured to drive the car.
She didn't have permission to drive it.
That's theft.
Story 1: Even if Dad's logic was valid, which it wasn't, and BF had any claim to the car, he said No to Sis borrowing it. Neither Dad nor Sis have a leg to stand on.
If OP pays anything to the dad that could be desidered rent, food money, bills - then she can even spin this around: "I pay, so I partially own it and can do with it whatever I want..."
Story 1: Tell me who the golden child is without telling me who the golden child is.
Why is ANYONE saying OP sucks. Be it in general or on her own??? What? The sister DID steal the car. It WASN'T a false report. If OP had given permission for the sister to drive it, then I could see it being a false report. But OP said sister couldn't drive her car and sister took in anyway. And no, just because the boyfriend's parents are being incredibly generous to let OP stay with them while they save and work and take care of themselves, nor the fact that the boyfriend helped OP purchase the car (ESPECIALLY since OP payed him back already) justifies what future father-in-law did.
Thanks XOS. Car story. Lots of insurance wont pay if driver is not associated with the car.
Car story, all those who thought OP was wrong very likely do not own a car as in bought it themselves with their own money. Let’s see, if we then took anything that you did own and bought with your own money and had it ‘borrowed’ you would be well pi**ed off so it’s even worse when it a very expensive car. Likewise if your ‘borrowed’ item was damaged you would be mad as hell. So why shouldn’t she file a police report - the sister was driving (taken without owner consent) a stolen car with no insurance tax or whatever. Now let’s look at the bigger picture; say the sister was involved in a fatal accident? The sister and the father (aiding and abetting a felony) would be liable and be sued, arrested with the sister doing prison time, the father given liability would lose any assets owned after being sued! I could go on and on so anyone who sympathises with the sister/father needs their heads fixed. Talk to someone who has lost someone to an uninsured driver and get some perspective!
“You knew the car wasn’t stolen: It was with your boyfriend’s sister.” Yeah, the sister who stole the car. OP’s car, which she was explicitly told not to drive. The car she took without permission, aka stole.
Just because her boyfriend’s family member stole the car doesn’t mean it wasn’t stolen. If the sister had damaged the STOLEN car, OP would have been liable. It was wise to report it stolen both to avoid said situation and to get her STOLEN property back.
Call the cops was the right call. He helped but paid him the money back!!!! Run don't walk getting out of that families home!!!!
Story 1: NTA. Those last two comments are on some full on bullsh*t. The sister is a thief. She was told NO. That was it. Is this the hill to die on? What kinda relationship future do they have if the dad and sister is like this? Gald they're moving out.
Op doesn't have to agree to a basic stranger driving her car. Because she would be legally liable if anything happened.
The idiots calling her the asshole in story 1 seem to forget that if the sister isn't on the insurance for the car, it's both illegal for op to let her drive it and really stupid, since any damage to the car wouldn't be covered. 🤦♀️
First story - OP, NTI at all whatsoever !!!
All those twats calling you selfish or any other name.... ask them if they are willing to loan THEIR vehicle to someone they don’t know !!! Seriously, I know a LOT of people that would love a vehicle to have to drive around and do whatever they wish with it !!!
Your BF sounds like he is very supportive, but his family is a bunch of red flags.
Good luck.
1st story. Those who are calling OP an AH for calling the police are ignoring the fact that the BF's sister STOLE the car, the BF's father is an accomplice. Stealing is what happens when someone is told they can't use someone else's property and they do so anyway. Its not borrowing, its stealing. OP was also liable for anything damages that the sister might have caused, hence the very firm NO that OP told her.
2nd story. WTF?
3rd story. Why do people keep trying force relationships between people who openly despise each other?
4th story. Ash is right, she was hauled over the coals by the boss to dress comfortably, no sweats, after that very boss instructed her to wear comfortable clothes.
I'm sorry what did I hear on the car one did a commenter really say YTA to OP and that she made a false report? car was taken without her permission...she had already said no.... that sounds like theft to be no matter how related the person was. Also, she would have as owner been responsible if the bf's sister had gotten into an accident while driving her car cause the sister is not insured in that car.
for real i was so confused that, for a second, i thought i had accidentally skipped to further ahead in this video and teh yta was for a different story 😭
#1 My bf helped me put a down payment on my car that I'm still leasing and I've have since paid him back and put more financially into the car than he has, so it's MY car. His name was not included, it still isn't. I'm the primary driver. I let my dad occasionally take it as he has no vehicle and it's maybe once a month if he asks. But that's my dad and he's about the ONLY person I trust to drive my car in my family... even more than my brother obviously. I made the mistake of not reporting my old roommate when she took my car and told me after the fact and ended up causing 5K in damages. Cars are expensive and boundaries are meant to be respected. They ignored all of that just to let the sister go see friends. Which could've included drinking and unsafe things??? NTA
#2 WHY?
#3 Literally Step Mom was in a daze the entire time and dad needs to get his head out of his ass and realize his "happiness" is destroying his sons.
#4 Lol girl bye
S1 isnt it illegal tk drive a vehicle uninsured?
4:09 Found the sister's account.
Seriously...if the sister wrecked, OP's insurance won't cover damages if she was at fault, unless OP reported it stolen. She's not insured on OP's vehicle, so she should have no business driving it ANYWAY.
To the officer: yes, I reported my car stolen. No I do not want to press charges now that I know it was my family member who stole ot
She didn't press charges because ot was brought back