I was raised loyalist/methodist but never fell for the bullshit, unfortunately the poor communities here are enveloped in tribalism/religion & remain "controlled" by paramilitaries. I've approached several loyalists on reddit with the "but the English generally can't stand Loyalism", and typically get the following response which I enthusiastically disagree with: ------------------- ------------------- "I agree with your point that the general English population either thinks negatively, or doesn't consider NI loyalism, but my own point is that Ulster loyalists do not care that the general English population has a negative view of loyalism. The reasons for my loyalty to the Crown are not the same as the reasons for my support for Unionism. My identity as a loyalist largely derives from historical reasons such as the fact that the monarchy has been Protestant, and the Crown has provided military protection for Ulster protestants for hundreds of years. (I have no problem with you finding some of my reasons for loyalism to be sectarian.) Whereas my reasons for Unionism would include the fact that Ulster protestants have close cultural ties to GB, the fact that the UK has a strong economy and also for many other perhaps trivial reasons which may not seem important to somebody who only cares about economic prosperity, but matter to me and many others nonetheless." ------------------- ------------------- TL;DR They generally aren't the smartest bunch. EG: There are several examples on Google images of Nazi flags & C18 graffiti being displayed next to Israeli flags in Belfast.
I was looking for a comment like this. You're 100% right. It's just a fact we just don't care. The younger generations in the rest of the UK especially have no shared history with the events or traditions that NI desperately cling to. The conservative voter on the street doesn't think very highly of the DUP.
@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight how can NATO force that on to one side 🤔 what if NATO put the shoe on the other foot even NI has no answers just goes on and on
@@edi8872 I understood the metaphor, it's just infuriating when Americans insist on bringing up their geopolitical issues on videos about other geopolitical issues as if its somehow relevant. It's pure arrogance and ignorance.
Unionists upset that Brexit caused a bunch of very foreseeable issues? If only they had prior warning, if only the English government they support gave a damn about Ireland. Who could have seen this coming.
Boris Johnson’s government* correct yourself ffs we wouldn’t have this problem with the likes of Theresa May who was undervalued. Boris is a clown, his only interest is self interest. He does not have a clue what he is doing and that is clear to see regarding the pandemic as well. Absolute clown!
@@joshualand5330 I’m well aware of that son thanks for the useful info🤣 I personally think Theresa may would’ve handled it much better, Boris is incompetent. This is going to lead to a labour government in the future and to be honest I think Starmer would also handle the situation much better than Boris.
@@ulsterkopite3048 I think I'm older than you. Anyway, I don't see a labor government anywhere in the near term and regarding your first post in this thread I'm not sure you *really* know that this is your government. At least if it doesn't decide like you want.
“People need to accept each other and move forward together.” *brings his kid to a bonfire burning other people’s flags* 🤨 not the brightest of lads, eh?
it doesn't look like the britisch government is interested in you anymore. your provocations will come to nothing. reality ist just about to overtake you at a gallop. If the conflict rises again, will the government send soldiers again? who knows for sure. and then? the catholics could best respond to this protest with something new, desinterest! look how long these people march, if nobody interested anymore. no longer allow yourself to be hurt and inhumiliated by what they do. make something new out of it for you. celebrate yourself and your children, and that your ancestors were brave even though they lost. you end this for yourselves!
@@nfbk123 Why should someone born in the UK be made to feel like they aren’t in the UK by republican bigots? I condemn the burning of flags etc of bonfires but ffs stop forcing your views on the Unionist community. We have no desire to leave the UK, and the manner you go about forcing this delusional ‘new Ireland’ bullshit is just going to make things worse. There will be consequences down the line if that kind of behaviour continues!
you know its not the 1900s, right? and there are LOTS of dumb ppl in the world and it cannot always result in civil unrest every time you see a person say something you disagree with....right? ...you also realise YOU, the Irish ppls, do not get to ELECT the EU members?...and that the EU is not perfect? and that maybe, just maybe, you should all be focusing on solving your problems and not loosing your minds right now?is anyone stopping you from getting your own trade deals? the world is big.
@DaggerX23, their "culture" is under "attack," because others point out how wrong and bigoted is it to publicly incinerate symbols of another culture. That's tantamount to the KKK complaining "their culture is under attack" because burning crosses is illegal. Good grief!!
@@kikiriki8742 facts! Once you tell them burning catholic and Irish items in a country the British pillaged for 800 years is wrong and yet somehow they are the ones under attack.
Well, in the Balkans we do have days when we commemorate tragic events and who killed who and did what to its neighbour, but the burning of the flag with KAT is what really shook me because that wouldn’t fly even here, no matter the nationalism.
‘I’m loyal to the crown, to the Queen’ Jesus I can’t imagine how strange it is to form your identity around some wealthy aristocratic family that’s done nothing for anyone because you have so much hate in your heart
Northern Ireland is incredibly poor, somewhere en par with poorer regions of Easter Europe. If you have nothing, the crown gives you some hope. You cling to it.
8:21 "Our identity is being attacked" ... The British government used to threaten innocent Irish men, women and even children that if they wore green (symbol of Catholicism and Ireland) they would be hanged. THATS being stripped of your identity. Not what he's saying, which is not being allowed to have a bonfire that celebrates the death of Irish people.
Despite what the Unionists say, it will basically come down to which is the better option for them. Go for independence from the UK or Rejoin Ireland. Both will still result in them rejoining Ireland sooner or later. If they rejoin Ireland now, the stronger their hand in negations and making things how they want in the long term. If they go for Independence, they will economically have to rely on Ireland. But they will have more internal say and won't have to rely on London to tell them what to do. However over time that would still result in them being reabsorbed by Ireland due to demographic changes and no fresh Brits coming over to replenish numbers, again thanks to brexit.
@@gideonroos1188 Where tf did this come from? None of what you said about American progressives is true. And it has nothing to do with the current topic. Why even bring it up?
@@thewingedhussar4188 I don't understand how loyalists even exist lmao. you're much poorer than those in the republic lmao, why don't you want to join?
Her :"We need to accept each other cultures." Vice: "Okay, so would that mean, stop prompting hate?" Her: "No, because that is part of our culture. How dare you suggest that."
Hatred is not part of our culture, that's individuals..... I know protestants who travel to the Republic and get quite long with everyone, not me for example! I'm a segregationist!
@@brygrant472 That’s not a coincidence, as many white people in the Deep South hailed from loyalist parts of modern day Northern Ireland and Scotland in particular, hence the term “Hill Billies”.
The Unionists and Loyalists voted for the DUP. The DUP propped up the Tory government. The Tories bent over and royally shafted NI. This is THEIR fault and now we Irish have to deal with it! NI voted to Remain!
That won’t ever happen again. The DUP will be annihilated at the next election. They are backward and do not represent the societal views of the unionist community. We voted to remain in the EU, but we DID NOT vote for an internal border within the UK.
@@ulsterkopite3048 Wasn't it obvious what it would mean to elect the DUP after their campaign for a hard Brexit including leaving the single market? That that would mean the UK would either have to scuttle the GFA or to erect a sea border within the UK?
@@khosrow Is it occupied population when a majority want to be british? Its only very recently that the polling suggests that the majority in N.I might change this view over upcoming years.
@@mitchverr9330 With how much economic potential there is with the United Kingdom now leaving the EU , with the recent trade deals linking us with the Pacific etc people will be a lot better off and won’t want to give that up plus it will be the Troubles X10.
I read somewhere theres something like 68m people in the u.k. around 48m are english and northern Ireland has around 3m.. so your saying 3m vs 48m outweighs your opinion. 🤦♂️
Sad to see these people perpetuating their bigotry and lies onto their children. It’s always about preserving “our culture” with fools like these guys.
I recently read a book about The Troubles and it seems that a large part of the the problem is that the Unionists often found themselves in the traditional colonist role; fearing what the natives might do if they gained any power, they used gerrymandering and police brutality to keep them down, making the situation even worse and simply fueling militant nationalism.
@@souvik43209 A lot of Brits are completely indifferent to Northern Ireland or don't want anything to do with them, Even on the political front. Conservatives threw them under the bus, A number of Labour and Social Democrats politicians openly support a United Ireland.
@Harry Harry - obviously not - and up to Brexit, I was a committed though pragmatic unionist. However my mocking is limited solely to the DUP. Supporting the hardest Brexit and yet unable to handle it now it has happened. And without the self awareness to admit they got it wrong. Did more in five years to create a United Ireland than Republican paramilitaries did in thirty years of violence. Do you not think there is a simple objective reason why the British military had a higher opinion of the IRA as a paramilitary force than the various loyalist paramilitaries? As regards the IRA, why do you think they are supposed to voice a positive opinion about the British Army? To be fair?
@Harry Harry darling, I am not British or Irish and I can tell you that no one mocks the Irish. People around the world loves Ireland, its culture and its bravery trying to get rid of you. The ones that we despise support a nazi royal family, deny that their "empire" was nothing but colonialism and genocide and are delusional about Northern Ireland, which is a beautiful part of the Republic of Ireland. Move one and go back to England where you belong
Well, as a catholic that grew up on the north, what they are afraid off is losing their identity amid a unites Ireland. They think that an all irish government would do to them what the Unionist controlled Northern Ireland did to the Catholics. I do sympathize with them to some degree because that “could” happen. It’s not an unrealistic fear
I was in Belfast on Wednesday and it was just normal, no biggie I'm from the Republic so I've no hand in the matter, but NI has always been completely ignored by London and a lot of Britons don't even know it's part of the UK. To me that's a real indication that orange men are in a one-way, unrequited relationship with the rest of the UK and should make them second-guess their position.
“I’m from the Republic so I’ve no hand in the matter” - immediately goes on to ‘claim’ that Northern Ireland is treated as second tier by the rest of the U.K. (without bothering to check that Northern Ireland is a net receiver of U.K. revenue) and that the loyalists should reconsider their attitudes to the rest of the U.K. Seriously?! Go check yourself you subversive little troll. The North is part of the U.K. and always will be ;) ta ta.
yeah Corbyn was talking about how we should govern like we are living in a united kingdom not england. Perhaps shifting parliaments from different regions.
@@Normalguy1690 lol m8 where do you live no one works in Stormont and they do exactly what England says with no questions , politicians are headless chickens
We are Ulster-Scots not English and we are not "loyal to the crown". We are loyal to the United Kingdom including Scotland and formerly including the ROI (originally the UK was the UK of GB and IRELAND). We are loyal to the Queen as Head of State and the Defender of the Faith but not loyal to the royal family. That will be made plain when the Queen sadly passes and the unionists don't accept whoever takes over. There is no worthy heir so the Queen will probably be the last one to ever hold the power currently held (which is still pretty much total and absolute should she wish, like ability to declare war and peace on other nations). The constitutional monarchy of the UK is an agreement the Queen gives her powers to Parliament but Parliament still submits to the Queen. It's called ceremonial because The Queen doesn't alter the government manifestos or interfere with Parliament and never uses her powers of royal prerogative - if she does she knows it will be the last time she ever does
im dying... almost fell off my chair lol its not our fault the most noisy people have maybe 3 braincells collectively? i mean im technically a prod because of wonky catholic divorce bs before my time but i have lived in the bogside, some of my best friends are from creggan. speaking with a few braincells.. regardless of prod or catholic. britain and ireland dont want us in the north because of the financial burden that would follow. meanwhile we have hard core elements on both sides.. its not like that anymore in 22, it wasnt like that in 20, maybe even 18 or 16 or 14. lots of proud idiots beating drums for countries that want to disassociate from them at the first opportunity. this is why i find these protestant marches comical. theyre marcking for england in the country of ireland. granted ireland doesnt want us northerners either as it will impact their funds and so on and so forth but were closer to ireland than england border wise.. we are in the country of ireland. theres no sea between north and south unlike north and england. and on that note i quit using braincells for tonight....
Just unite already. These unionists need to realise that England doesn't care about them. Scotland will soon be independent too. Once Ireland has united, after a few decades the prosperity of the island will be worth it. Ireland has such amazing potential 👍. The unionists can still be British, but part of Ireland. Just like any other former colony. Life goes on.. the empire is finished lads
That’s not how it’s going to pan out son. We will never ever accept a United ireland against our will. Also, the desire for independence has massively dropped in Scotland recently especially with them SNP clowns. Corruption central!
Tone down your rhetoric. Republican intolerance and hatred of the unionist community is what makes a United ireland less desirable, and more likely to end up in a bloody civil war all over again if we have this agenda forced upon us. Your choice. We wish to remain part of the UK and there is nothing you can do to change that!
@@ulsterkopite3048 ok, it is true that the majority of northern Ireland wishes to remain part of the UK. But if attitudes change and the majority of your country wishes to join, would you respect their opinion?
@@baldbread3693 of course not. These people are descendants of colonists who had everything given to them for free, at the expense of the indigenous population, hence why they behave like spoilt children. They're salty because the country that was fabricated for them 100 years ago isn't the same anymore, and they have had to give rights to the natives. All empires come to an end buddy, the British empires last colony is destined to fail. Whether you like it or not, you'll be living in a unified Ireland soon enough. If not you then your children or grandchildren. Facts. Period. Better to integrate in to a country where you can prosper, than hang on to an empire that doesn't want you
@@user-cj1br1hx9q such a load of biased bullshit. It’s language like that which will make a United ireland less desirable and unlikely, making it less appealing to people in the middle ground who will determine the result of any future border poll if it ever happens. Republican intolerance and hatred is clear to see and it only makes the situation worse for yourselves.
I am a Dutch person living in Ireland for the last 11 years, close to the Northern Irish border and despite the past between the 2 countries I like both countries equally...I feel at home in Ireland but I love driving to the North for shopping, going to parks and forests and have the craic with the people over there..I respect both sides and hope Brexit will not bring the troubles back..It is not worth it..
They're the same people. They both originated from the Scottish Highlands. These people are called Ulster Scots. Look up the term 'Hillbillies' and where it originated from. King William (King Billy, the protestant king who defeated the catholic king in 1690), had followers known as the 'Billy boys'. They moved to America during the Ulster plantation in the 1700s and lived in the hills. I am not making this up. These people in Northern Ireland are the same as hill billies
@@EGT-kf2hu That's like saying African Americans and Africans are the same people. Put the two groups together and you'll see how false your statement is.
What about the irish who live in the uk, Canada, Australia and nz. should they also go home. I don’t think you have anything helpful to suggest then maybe you should just be quiet
Always and without fail the oppressors greatest fears are the tables being turned. The truth is the path toward a united Ireland is inevitable and every year is a step closer to that reality and an eventual end to this conflict.
@@sorryi6685 shame they’re part of the UK then init? But it’s alright when they’re getting free prescriptions. It’s convenient to draw these lines as soon as things don’t go your way.
@@matthewdillon8506 only a idiot would believe the Royals care about use or anyone I'm a Catholic but I agree about Brexit and leaving it all this is just dividing people which is all done for that reason your enemies are mine Governments crown and the vactin and the 1%
@@Jordan-bb4xt Other countries have but not on the same scale as British. The amount of people starved to death, the amount of natives completely destroyed, the amount of money looted... The British Empire was THE WORST!
They're in Ireland, burning an Irish flag...that makes no sense to me. The United States was under English rule in our beginnings, alot of us have English ancestors. Does that mean I'm english still? Should I be flying the British flag? Or since I born in the states and live here, doesn't that make me American? The unionists make no sense to me.
Cause these Protestant/unionists/Loyalists are ethnically british ( ie english/scottish), not irish. American is not an ethnicity. It's a nationality. Irish however is both an ethnicity and a nationality. The irish in the north want the south to 'annex' the north, so that it comes under the rule of Dublin. These protestant british unionists will therefore come under the administration of a catholic irish culture and dublin government that is quite alien to them. How would you like it if you were annexed by mexico or cuba or france? A totally different culture, little in common with americans and their culture. The only commonality is the land mass. And just to be clear, it's possible to be a unionist and not simultaneously a loyalist. I'm a unionist, and i don't support these loser, lower class CHAV loyalists burning tires and pallets in the middle of urban areas and stirring up strife. They're the worst and most extreme form of unionism. To say unionist=loyalist is akin to saying antifa=democratic party, or the proud boys= republican party. They are synonymous yes, but not necessarily interchangeable.
I dont think you understand the subtle difference between nationality, ethnicity and citizenship. You need to do a bit of reading. Nationality and citizenship are virtually interchangeable with each other. Ethnicity however, is not. You can be ethnically african and be an american by both nationality and citizenship. Conversely, a black guy born in england can't identify as being ethnically 'english'. He can however, identify as being of english nationality. He may also choose to simultaneously identify as a british person and he will also legally be a british citizen. He however, is not and can never be ethnically english ie. white.
'I teach my kids that they're loyalist first because of where they come from, their heritage and tradition..' and 'no bargain when it comes to your culture'. Two quotes from the mother that capture the problem. It's inter generational reverence for incompatible identity assertions. Never going to see tolerance with attitude like that
yeah, what kind pf paranoia do you need to be under to see every idiot kid who accidentally breaks a window as an enemy? jeez, man. its not a good look.
I'm from Northern Ireland. Grew up in a hardcore loyalist area, Portadown. I live in Brazil now and this video makes me cringe. My family are staunch loyalists, but I couldn't really care less. I'm very aware that England doesn't care about us. We're like a parasite to them. The Scottish have more in common with us, and we get on with them. I could see a united Ireland happening. Economically, I want to stay part of the UK. But who knows what's gonna happen. But as for this video, he got the people with the strongest accents, worst fake tans, and some of the worst places to live. Folks, this isn't a good representation of my country. Many people are cool, don't care about this crap, and are very accepting. Plus, we have some of the most beautiful natural scenery in the world. Just don't go to the favelas
@@layol7398 ever since it housed the LVF, UVF, Drumcree and all the mess that caused, the many riots etc. If you're from NI you must be on disability and blind if you didn't see it
@@eirini98 and you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word hardcore then! Also can see just fine, see in particular the many many areas that are actually hardcore, portadown is calm AF in comparison and has been for years
As Ireland gets richer and grows way better than the UK does, a reunification will look more attractive. The brexit vote ultimately betrayed the well-being of northern ireland and only a matter of time how bad it's going to be, until the stubborn loyalists realized they've been abandoned.
@@Andre80962 That's common in every rich country. a beer costs €20 in Sweden and a parking space costs $150,000 in Hong Kong. Wealth always comes with higher prices, that's basic economics.
@@Andre80962 you do know that Northern Ireland GDP per capita is $35,000 while the country of Ireland is closer to $80,000. Even the UK sits at 45 so the people of Northern Ireland would literally be doubling to tripling their living standards just by rejoining
@@Andre80962 Wages in Ireland reflect the GDP. You clearly have a very biased view of Ireland making your opinion on Ireland irrelevant, but the reality is Ireland beats the UK on GDP, freedom, internet access and speeds, education, healthcare and any metric that countries are quantified with.
7:09 A "British" person saying this while a bonfire glorifying and encouraging violence against the Irish burns behind him is the most accurate portrayal of unionism I've seen.
@@boiledhead … those “simps” have been in Northern Ireland for 300 years - they call themselves British and Northern Irish because that is what they are.
Nah loyalists have better things to be doing than slabbering about the other side on RUclips comments. The superiority complex you folks have is insane
I'm an American and I've always been fascinated with the beef between Irish Catholic nationalists and the Protestant Loyalists to the UK. I know I don't know all the dynamics to it or how it feels to be actually living in the midst of all that but I have always felt more sympathetic to the nationalists plight.
I’m an American and I did some private investigating work in Northern Ireland for months back in 2019. It’s a horribly divided and segregated place with no clear solution to achieve peace. A United Ireland is certainly easier said than done but in saying that, I feel sorry for the innocent people that live there. Because they bear the brunt of violence and sectarianism between two rival tribes. I knew a Protestant guy that married a Catholic woman and they both had to move to Scotland because both of their families rejected them. It’s a shame because Northern Ireland is such a beautiful place with great people.
As do I and I’m not just saying that as an Englishman who has Irish (Catholic) family. Genuinely the rest of the UK and the Westminster elite think Northern Ireland are constantly embarrassing us.
@@7ElevenAlphaCentauri Outside of Derry and Belfast it’s a really nice place. Both cities are just incredibly divided with literal walls separating the communities despite the GFA in 1998
@@niallfoley6711 I went to the UK, NI included in 2019 because my company was setting up offices in Belfast and was training new employees. I went golfing in Derry , Antrim, and Distillery and i loved it. Great food and great people and awesome pubs. Most of the places I went to were somewhat affluent with catholics and protestants mixed. But once you go outside of the nice areas NI is an incredibly divided and segregated place and it's really sad. Everyone I talked to says it's mostly poor people and youth without a future getting involved in sectarianism.
“It’s basically split us off from the UK”. No no….the sea was always there 😅 “It’s the start of trying to take us away from the United Kingdom” 🤔 Yet it was the unionists who blindly voted for Brexit…. 🤯
Tbh it shouldn’t of gotten funded then stuck in a Protestant area to try and force Protestant kids to learn Gaelic a dead language. Why not put it in a mixed school many parents where annoyed at what the nursery and sinn feinn is trying to do.
@@niallmcardle7 because some people realise learning your child a dead language is pointless if they wanted to start a Spanish class in nursery’s by all means it would be useful in adult life not Gaelic.
@@Normalguy1690 *teaching You're having a shocker mate. God forbid someone tries to revive a dormant language. Have a great weekend, you need to take it off ;)
"Well both sides are doing it" is not an answer to stop taunting the other. Perhaps some shame rather than drunken pride might do him so good. Set a better example for your children.
When someone says “Loyal to the Queen” it seriously makes me want to throw up. It’s disgusting. Can’t wait for Scotland to leave the UK. Hopefully Northern Ireland to follow.
Brother emigrated to Scotland and volunteers for the Independence movement. I truly hope Scotland secedes as well. Stupid people in the media kept telling voters to stay “unified”, which is a fantasy
Been going deep on the troubles and its fascinating and terribly sad. To think the soldiers of bloody Sunday were commended by the queen is just mind boggling and disgusting. Commitment to the British crown is misguided and hopeless.
If they did this about a group like black people, people would be furious about this. We need to treat this in a simlar regard, have your bonfires, but cmon this is very anti-irish
Unfortunately that's 'kultur'. I'm all for British cultural traditions, there are so many unique British cultures that the world loves! This however, isn't cultural at all! If we're being honest Westminster is embarrassed by these people. The only reason they put up with them, in comparison to, let's say South Rhodesians is pure proximity to Britain. Quite sad tbh.
My Kulture!... There was a border place in the top half of ireland under the threat of war these people are pure hypocrites and pretty much isolated in their own wee world.
They do it about black people too, search up BLM on bonefire. Many anti black things have been put up there. Even take another look at the video and you’ll see they’re burning the flag of Palestine along with the Irish one.
@@IhaveBigFeet Certainly i agree. By no means are Loyalists 'internationalist' in their ideology, you may have people who come from those communities who are internationalist but many are reactionary to 'freedom' causes throughout the world all because... Socialism= IRA= United Ireland= Derp . Proper crazy but sad.
"Loyal to the Queen, loyal to the crown" - what has that old fart done for You amigo? And/or what has the "crown" done for You? Royalty eats and laughs off your sweat.
I don't care about Britain, I care about Northern Ireland and it's existence. Nationalists will not get rid of the existence of my country, we're Northern lrish not Irish; Ireland is a separate country.
@@Hodoss I'm not claiming I'm Irish. Northern Ireland and Ireland are 2 different countries. Those born in Ireland are Irish, and those born in Northern Ireland are Northern Irish. Me saying I'm Northern lrish is like a Scottish person saying they're Scottish, or an English person saying they're English. Northern Irish and Irish are not the same thing. Also Italy is 1 country, it didn't partition, there is no split nationality as far as I'm aware, whereas in Northern Ireland we have a choice of dual Nationality (British and Irish passports).
I was thinking the same thing! Their argument about culture is so stupid because it doesn’t seem like it’s any different. I doubt they eat different foods, shows, movies. They speak the exact same language and I bet very few of them even go to church or would consider themselves religious. The Anglican religion is just about dead. They should just make their argument about politics. They want to be associated with England, they like the royal family etc. Not about culture.
Despite the fact that it's an EU border imposed on the UK to protect the EU's Single Market as a result of the EU's demands on the UK during negotiations where the UK sought a deal to reduce EU borders and barriers to trade...
That Irish girl just said "I'm British"? See, it's stuff like that that confuses Americans. She's not British. Britain does not include Ireland. The UK includes N. Ireland, but that doesn't make her British.
Well, I mean it's the British Isles, so technically...all Irish people are British, in the same way Canadians and Mexicans are "Americans". Please don't bomb my car
@@AlexSaysHi2013 They aren't "Americans", they are North Americans. Big difference. Irish people are not British either, in the same way, you've mistakenly misclassified Mexicans & Canadians. "The British Isles" isn't any kind of internationally recognized citizenship or territory. It's only a geographical region, same as the Americas are. People aren't identified by geographical regions, because it's far too vague & inaccurate.
Historically a lot of Protestants in Northern Ireland are of English and Scottish descent anyway, so it’s a bit of a mess, really. I don’t think it will happen yet but I’d expect a United Ireland in my lifetime, there just needs to be a bit more consensus (to avoid another Brexit) which seems to be coming through with younger people.
@@colmmcnaughton2152 take a trip to the bogside, galliagh, new lodge or any other republican ghetto that has anti internment bonfires in august. Same nonsense graffiti slogans but different side of the same coin.
They're the colonisers, settler colonists. The colonised are the native people (as everywhere the British went, Palestine, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, eastern US, south Africa, Ireland, Rhodesia etc.) The Irish. This distinction must ALWAYS be made when talking about colonialism.
If they want to be part of the uk and don’t want an internal border why don’t they just move to the mainland instead of threatening violence towards Catholics? I also don’t understand the logic of menacing their Catholic neighbours because they feel betrayed by the British tory govt.?
For years I've read the comments on the Daily Mail and Express on MSM and they like to chuck the 'move to EU if you like it so much' to anyone espousing the mistruths being spread about Brexit being a piece of cake. And yes, I do encourage those who can to leave Britain as right now it only seems to get worse and worse, leave while you can; there are great countries to live in in the EU, and lots of Brits already do so you countrymen are already here, the more the merrier.
@@RobLocksley id say this is slightly different. They see themselves as British, which is why they don’t want this border but to put a border between NI and Ireland is to violate the peace treaty and would likely endanger those living near the border and any contested areas. Personally I think an internal trade border is much better than starting a war. The impression I also get is that those who are the most staunch supporters of remaining in the UK are actually of English descent and were given confiscated land to live on to try and settle Ireland. That’s settler colonialism, it somewhat diminishes any legitimate claim to the land.
I was okay with them but they are mad and backwards and keep the Tories in power so when they finally #ReUniteIreland I'll be glad to see the back of them.
I love how they feel like their culture is being attacked meanwhile the Irish were in a literal war defending themselves against the British, for more than 800 years.
Except they werent. Irish rebellions were small until 1918. Meanwhile nationalists are constantly trying to disrupt out parliament, cause crime etc. so that our country fails
as an irish person i find this conflict hard. It’s an on going 100 year old war. Ireland has been bullied and bullied non stop. I hate to see the horrible issues and hatred to each other. But mostly i hate seeing young people involved. Burning the irish flag is sad considering they’re on the Land of Ire literally. It’s unfortunate that ireland still is colonized by the british. Unfortunately it’s time for the british too go home. The walls are already being put up. Ireland will unfortunately always be divided.
@@Ozama1221 Preach 🙌🙌. Ireland for the irish. And England for the English!! Europe for Europeans. Also Algo, i was talking to dave earlier. He says the next bi-monthly regional White Pride meeting is at your house? Is that correct? Also he mentioned that the European KKK central committee has advised that we should leave our white hoods on whilst inside. They help stop the Rona. He says last thing the ethno-nat movement needs is an outbreak of the rona. Will you be enforcing this or can i just wear normal clothes instead of my entire Grand Dragon outfit. Cause it Can get a bit stuffy, you know?
@cornelius the 3rd northern Ireland becoming part of Ireland just sounds right and makes sense , the unionists are like the ex boyfriend that's still trying hard to win back his girlfriend after being dumped
I guess the unionists now know what it’s like to feel their status diminishing, the same way the nationalist have felt for a 100 years. As an outsider observing this prideful conflict, I think Protestants need to feel secure in a United Ireland. Ireland should be ONE. The Brits carved it up, just like they did India and the other colonies they ruled. The Brits have created lasting conflicts as their empire shrunk.
India was like 100 different states before they arrived. They didnt carve up anything. It was never united. Infact ireland was never united, except under british rule.
Im sorry but this is so complicated that outsiders really dont deserve an opinion. Britain unified ireland for the first time, the south then broke away from the UK in around 1920
@@godlovesyou1995 The Irish were not United politically, but they were united in religious beliefs, cultural traditions and linguistically. The Brits invaded Ireland and occupied it. The South got their rightful independence. It’s interesting how you describe the Irish gaining independence as them having ‘broken away’ from the UK. It’s hard being impartial when your existing narrative is slanted.
@@t.g.troughton8245 The Brits didn’t colonisé India to unify it. They were not humanitarian saints! They were opportunistic and there to pillaged, subjugate, destroy and loot whatever they could. They destroyed existing social systems that were in place and fomented inflicts between Muslims and Hindus in its bid to divide and rule. It is true that India was a multi-religious, pluralistic land of many states and kingdoms, but it was still India. The Brits did divide India up to create Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh).The terrible socio-political decisions the British made have left political/ religious/ethnic conflicts that have existed till today. Be it India-Pakistan, Israël-Palestine, Northern Ireland (Protestant-Catholic), etc.
It's really something how fast the British power in the world fell. Not only them losing the empire, but they're losing internal stability and have lost their position as a respected world power.
It’s beyond satisfying. Personally perched on seeing Catalonia secede from spain. Oh how the mighty conquerers have fallen.. only for their respective former colonies (USA, India, Hong Kong, & Mexico etc) to surpass them globally now that they are no longer raping their people and resources..
@@tz7245 britain didn't really fall their rank has just lowered not fallen because they still have nukes (it's partly because so they can still have a say in world politics so by reminding the world that they have nukes the world might listen on Britain's opinion)and the pound is quite powerful and britain still has commonwealth realms countries that accept the queen as their head of state
I thought she was just a different race... although I couldn't tell which one since she died her skin, hair, and shaved her eyebrows while asking Andre the Giant to apply new ones with finger paint.
can't imagine the cognitive dissonance of feeling like you're part of the UK whilst being on a totally different island & country, and being reminded of that all the time, collonisers worried about being collonised, United Ireland is inevitable & will be a far better country than the one the racist colonisers tried to impose, they will be welcome and will have equal rights, more than what they offered to native Irish
yup, britain has been acting to big for its shoes for the last 50 yrs, they stil have this idea of themselves as a huge power but they just arent one anymore.
And Brexit has played a significant part of that. I'm British but I'm sick of our ridiculous superiority complex. It's so delusional and regressive it's embarrassing. Hopefully in time this disastrous Brexit process and interminable Tory right wing rule will be a last exorcism of this mentality and we'll be able to move on and take our place in the world with humility as a medium sized country.
@@tikkj Totally different situations. Not only did not the rest of Spain invade Catalonia, take their lands or starve them to death, but they helped them become the richest region of the whole country. Poor immigrants from the south flocked there to work in factories whose exports were protected by tariffs against foreign competition. Catalan bourgeois grew powerful and now they use their influence to fill the heads of people with dreams about independence that would allow these elites to hold all power in their little republic. On top of that, given Catalonia's relevance, if they got independence, that would mean the end of the country as we know it. What remains of Spain would need to be refounded and rethought. Where are the parallelism with Ireland? Nowhere. Is NI a region of England? The English themselves don't give a damn about NI and this sorry bunch of radicalized Scottish colonists that were planted there 300 years ago anymore. Some right-wingers will pretend they care when it suits their political maneuvers. But that's about it.
@@bellezayverdad Northern Ireland isn't a region of England, no, but it's a region of the United Kingdom, which is the country we're talking about. England hasn't been an independent country since 1536. Catalunya want to be independent, but Spain keeps them in the country against their will. You're against this with Northern Ireland, but it's weird how as soon as it's your country that's doing it though, suddenly it's somehow okay lol? For the record I'm all for a united Ireland, this isn't some snarky Brit playing gotcha. As far as I'm concerned, keeping a people under your control against their will is bad regardless of who's doing it.
You may understand us mate but I'm sorry to say we in Belfast born during the peace process in a much less violent era couldnt fathom the pure hell you guys are going through in Palestine. I couldnt imagine the terror of living in constant fear of being killed in an airstrike or shot in the streets by an israeli soldier or even losong a close friend or family member to the same circumstances. My heart truly goes out to you and I hope someday palestine will finally be able to survive and overcome such an inhuman apartheid and conflict. Thank you for your best wishes to my country. Much respect from here in Belfast my friend.
He has a british passport you condescending smart ass. He can move wherever he wants. He can even have an irish one if he wants as well. And by the looks of it england aint too concerned with who comes to their country, à la the manchester bomber and his ilk.
Well considering moving to England wouldn’t even be leaving the country you can bet no one is going to stop him, i’d be quite happy for people like him to be living on my street instead of fucking Ahmed and Ubumbu
As an outsider, it seems as if loyalists love the UK far more than that the UK loves them back, which is pretty sad.
Yeah
I was raised loyalist/methodist but never fell for the bullshit, unfortunately the poor communities here are enveloped in tribalism/religion & remain "controlled" by paramilitaries.
I've approached several loyalists on reddit with the "but the English generally can't stand Loyalism", and typically get the following response which I enthusiastically disagree with:
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"I agree with your point that the general English population either thinks negatively, or doesn't consider NI loyalism, but my own point is that Ulster loyalists do not care that the general English population has a negative view of loyalism.
The reasons for my loyalty to the Crown are not the same as the reasons for my support for Unionism. My identity as a loyalist largely derives from historical reasons such as the fact that the monarchy has been Protestant, and the Crown has provided military protection for Ulster protestants for hundreds of years. (I have no problem with you finding some of my reasons for loyalism to be sectarian.)
Whereas my reasons for Unionism would include the fact that Ulster protestants have close cultural ties to GB, the fact that the UK has a strong economy and also for many other perhaps trivial reasons which may not seem important to somebody who only cares about economic prosperity, but matter to me and many others nonetheless."
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TL;DR They generally aren't the smartest bunch. EG: There are several examples on Google images of Nazi flags & C18 graffiti being displayed next to Israeli flags in Belfast.
I was looking for a comment like this. You're 100% right. It's just a fact we just don't care. The younger generations in the rest of the UK especially have no shared history with the events or traditions that NI desperately cling to. The conservative voter on the street doesn't think very highly of the DUP.
Because that's exactly what it is
Yeah I think if ireland were ever reunified, most brits across the irish sea wouldn't really give a damn. NI is on their own.
"People need to accept each other and move forward" he says, as a gigantic anti-Catholic bonfire burns in the background.
while also stating if they dont get there way will be more violence. Must be nice to have the Bristish army on their side.
Reminds me of Israelis
@Brian of Knocknasheega It's heckling, it's not Irish culture.
I know its fucking epic. An epic delusion.
It's the same with islamaphobes
Anyone whos interested the irish flag that had "KAT", that means "Kill All Taigs". Taig is a derogatory term for Irish Catholics
It's sad when a culture is being subjected by another......
Who can blame them for demanding their right to their own beliefs?
@@jrblackstar8767 Yeah United Ireland 🇮🇪 should be the goal of Nato.
here in the us we have MAGA...Make America Gay Again
@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight how can NATO force that on to one side 🤔 what if NATO put the shoe on the other foot even NI has no answers just goes on and on
sad part in the end if the video the lady smiled and said its part of their culture. they seem pretty messed up to me
"We shouldn't hate."
2 sec later
"Burning their flag is my culture."
That's not necessarily "hate", it can be a form of political protest, & if liberty reigns, then so should freedom of expression.
@@JeighNeither it's hate
@Joseph Stolen what are you on about?
American politics isn't relevant to anything in this comment section
@@pfhrmb it’s a metaphor i think that makes sense if your american
@@edi8872 I understood the metaphor, it's just infuriating when Americans insist on bringing up their geopolitical issues on videos about other geopolitical issues as if its somehow relevant.
It's pure arrogance and ignorance.
Unionists upset that Brexit caused a bunch of very foreseeable issues? If only they had prior warning, if only the English government they support gave a damn about Ireland. Who could have seen this coming.
Boris Johnson’s government* correct yourself ffs we wouldn’t have this problem with the likes of Theresa May who was undervalued. Boris is a clown, his only interest is self interest. He does not have a clue what he is doing and that is clear to see regarding the pandemic as well. Absolute clown!
@@ulsterkopite3048 If you see yourself as a citizen of the UK it is your government.
@@ulsterkopite3048 Boris Johnstons government are unionists
@@joshualand5330 I’m well aware of that son thanks for the useful info🤣 I personally think Theresa may would’ve handled it much better, Boris is incompetent. This is going to lead to a labour government in the future and to be honest I think Starmer would also handle the situation much better than Boris.
@@ulsterkopite3048 I think I'm older than you. Anyway, I don't see a labor government anywhere in the near term and regarding your first post in this thread I'm not sure you *really* know that this is your government. At least if it doesn't decide like you want.
“People need to accept each other and move forward together.”
*brings his kid to a bonfire burning other people’s flags*
🤨 not the brightest of lads, eh?
Loyalists intellectuals
it doesn't look like the britisch government is interested in you anymore. your provocations will come to nothing. reality ist just about to overtake you at a gallop. If the conflict rises again, will the government send soldiers again? who knows for sure. and then?
the catholics could best respond to this protest with something new, desinterest! look how long these people march, if nobody interested anymore. no longer allow yourself to be hurt and inhumiliated by what they do.
make something new out of it for you.
celebrate yourself and your children, and that your ancestors were brave even though they lost. you end this for yourselves!
"I identify as British" "we are losing our culture" then go back to Britain no point in living in Ireland...
@@nfbk123 Why should someone born in the UK be made to feel like they aren’t in the UK by republican bigots? I condemn the burning of flags etc of bonfires but ffs stop forcing your views on the Unionist community. We have no desire to leave the UK, and the manner you go about forcing this delusional ‘new Ireland’ bullshit is just going to make things worse. There will be consequences down the line if that kind of behaviour continues!
@@ulsterkopite3048 Sadly threatening violence again.
The UK government certainly doesn't care about you
“We feel our culture is under attack” Hmm I wonder if the Irish felt their culture was under attack during those 800 years
you know its not the 1900s, right? and there are LOTS of dumb ppl in the world and it cannot always result in civil unrest every time you see a person say something you disagree with....right? ...you also realise YOU, the Irish ppls, do not get to ELECT the EU members?...and that the EU is not perfect? and that maybe, just maybe, you should all be focusing on solving your problems and not loosing your minds right now?is anyone stopping you from getting your own trade deals? the world is big.
@DaggerX23, their "culture" is under "attack," because others point out how wrong and bigoted is it to publicly incinerate symbols of another culture. That's tantamount to the KKK complaining "their culture is under attack" because burning crosses is illegal. Good grief!!
@@kikiriki8742 facts! Once you tell them burning catholic and Irish items in a country the British pillaged for 800 years is wrong and yet somehow they are the ones under attack.
Probably. What’s your point?
@@andrabook8758 The EU laws are good, apart from Article 13.
"When people feel Oppressed they fight back"
AND HE WONDERS WHY THERES SO MUCH RESENTMENT FOR BRITAIN IN IRELAND.
You’re right. Also, there is a difference between FEELING oppressed and BEING oppressed, for, like, centuries…
The only reason they were oppressed is because they are weak
@@yaraelpoof7242 Weak? The Irish fought the Brits to the point they won independence for most of the island.
@@TheWolfsnack If they didn’t want to get controlled by Britain it wouldn’t have happen if they were stronger
@@yaraelpoof7242 Good Lord, get some history man. Otherwise you are just proving yourself not to be the equal to the Irish for no reason.
"Anybody who feels oppressed always defends themselves" he says after burning a Palestinian flag
That's Loyalists for you, absolutely no sense of irony. More down to pure stupidity through ignorance and a lack of education
like how is Palestine even related to the stuff happening in NI???
@@Knedlajz2 Ireland are big supporters of palestine and have been funding projects to help improve the palestinian peoples life
while also talking about people who were oppressed under the british
When the Palestinians go back to their country then I’ll support them.
Northern Ireland really feels like an english speaking Balkan country.
Yes. I want to adopt them
Well, in the Balkans we do have days when we commemorate tragic events and who killed who and did what to its neighbour, but the burning of the flag with KAT is what really shook me because that wouldn’t fly even here, no matter the nationalism.
There are people in the Balkans angry over 900-year-old battles. These wounds run deep.
@@AbsurdityofExistence I don't know man, burning flags of our neighbors is almost like tradition here, especially during football matches.
Feels like Cyprus.
‘I’m loyal to the crown, to the Queen’ Jesus I can’t imagine how strange it is to form your identity around some wealthy aristocratic family that’s done nothing for anyone because you have so much hate in your heart
Northern Ireland is incredibly poor, somewhere en par with poorer regions of Easter Europe.
If you have nothing, the crown gives you some hope. You cling to it.
They are brainless
It's more to do with an underlying tribalism based on a slightly varying ethnicity - it finds a rallying point, usually a religion or sect..
@@LMB222 what hope does the crown give them...
@@LMB222 Northern Ireland isn't even poor, its got a bomming economy
8:21 "Our identity is being attacked"
... The British government used to threaten innocent Irish men, women and even children that if they wore green (symbol of Catholicism and Ireland) they would be hanged. THATS being stripped of your identity. Not what he's saying, which is not being allowed to have a bonfire that celebrates the death of Irish people.
Yeah thats was like 200 years ago pal. Back then people were shoving eels up there ass to cure cancer. Get with the times.
@@t.g.troughton8245 so u think that not celebrating the deaths of Catholics is being stripped of identity?
@@fiddledydoodle careful, you might hurt yourself with those mental gymnastics
Yep, its like the last 9 centuries just went down the drain and non of it matters anymore. Hope the loyalists get whats comming to em. ERIN GO BRAGH
"If you look at history, anybody that feels oppressed always defends themselves"... my my, how the tables have turned, the irony LOL
Yeah
They literally have more population that Republicans. They are not oppressed.
I know. LMAO!
"It's about celebrating your culture."
Bigotry and hate is not a culture.
Despite what the Unionists say, it will basically come down to which is the better option for them.
Go for independence from the UK or Rejoin Ireland.
Both will still result in them rejoining Ireland sooner or later.
If they rejoin Ireland now, the stronger their hand in negations and making things how they want in the long term.
If they go for Independence, they will economically have to rely on Ireland. But they will have more internal say and won't have to rely on London to tell them what to do. However over time that would still result in them being reabsorbed by Ireland due to demographic changes and no fresh Brits coming over to replenish numbers, again thanks to brexit.
@@gideonroos1188 Where tf did this come from? None of what you said about American progressives is true. And it has nothing to do with the current topic. Why even bring it up?
@@gideonroos1188 Where have you met these people? I cant think of any Progressive who holds these views
Might not be a culture but it sure as hell defined the brittish for a long time
@@thewingedhussar4188 I don't understand how loyalists even exist lmao. you're much poorer than those in the republic lmao, why don't you want to join?
I love how he says there are a lot of people who are stirring up tensions, meanwhile while they march through catholic areas lol
For like a few hundred years. LOL!
what catholic areas? thats been stopped now for years
@@jamiecrookstutorials7762 holy lands was marched through, I'm sure there will have been more but that the only one I saw myself
@@jamiecrookstutorials7762they literally went throught a 97 % catholic town playing sectarian music whaf r u on about
@@jamiecrookstutorials7762
You realize sectarian speech is illegal?
Her :"We need to accept each other cultures."
Vice: "Okay, so would that mean, stop prompting hate?"
Her: "No, because that is part of our culture. How dare you suggest that."
Reminds me a lot of defending the Confederate Monuments in the American south.
Hatred is not part of our culture, that's individuals..... I know protestants who travel to the Republic and get quite long with everyone, not me for example! I'm a segregationist!
@@djbadboy7649 unionists are c***s, end of.
@@brygrant472 That’s not a coincidence, as many white people in the Deep South hailed from loyalist parts of modern day Northern Ireland and Scotland in particular, hence the term “Hill Billies”.
Lol literally true.
The Unionists and Loyalists voted for the DUP. The DUP propped up the Tory government. The Tories bent over and royally shafted NI. This is THEIR fault and now we Irish have to deal with it! NI voted to Remain!
That won’t ever happen again. The DUP will be annihilated at the next election. They are backward and do not represent the societal views of the unionist community. We voted to remain in the EU, but we DID NOT vote for an internal border within the UK.
@@ulsterkopite3048 that's EXACTLY what you voted for. The NI Protocol was the only option.
@@seancorrigan3531 It must go or it will inevitably lead more violence in the future. Not worth it. Article 16 must be triggered!
@@ulsterkopite3048 Wasn't it obvious what it would mean to elect the DUP after their campaign for a hard Brexit including leaving the single market? That that would mean the UK would either have to scuttle the GFA or to erect a sea border within the UK?
@@ulsterkopite3048 are you advocating violence?
They need to respect our culture
** proceeds to throw molotovs at pictures of others **
Well, he said others need to respect their culture, not that they need to respect other's too...
@Ty On Tilt You missed the point, but in reply to you: Knights and e.g. ww1 pilots were enemies bust still had lots of respect for each other.
What’s fascinating is that the northern Irish seem to be more “loyal” to the crown than many English.
Because it is the only thing giving them power over the occupied population of NI. The crown is even paying loyalists.
@@khosrow Is it occupied population when a majority want to be british? Its only very recently that the polling suggests that the majority in N.I might change this view over upcoming years.
@@mitchverr9330 With how much economic potential there is with the United Kingdom now leaving the EU , with the recent trade deals linking us with the Pacific etc people will be a lot better off and won’t want to give that up plus it will be the Troubles X10.
These are UK Weebs
I read somewhere theres something like 68m people in the u.k. around 48m are english and northern Ireland has around 3m.. so your saying 3m vs 48m outweighs your opinion. 🤦♂️
Tories: "We're willing to sacrifice Northern Ireland to get Brexit done."
DUP: "So are we."
Some of us in Northern Ireland don’t really care about peoples religion and just want to get on with life…
Sad to see these people perpetuating their bigotry and lies onto their children. It’s always about preserving “our culture” with fools like these guys.
I'd say most, camera crews tend to gravitate to whoever has the biggest collections of Celtic or Ranger tattoos.
You are most likely a Catholic then
Finally, some sanity and morality!
Yep I’m the same
Call it what you want it's 800 years of occupation.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥱
@@ulsterkopite3048 Britisher showing his shamelessness again!
Laughing at people's misery and pain... Typical British Behavior.
After 800 years of losing though, why keep complaining? I dont get it.
Andrew walker explain
Dharma Persona thankfully it appears Scotland is moving on
I recently read a book about The Troubles and it seems that a large part of the the problem is that the Unionists often found themselves in the traditional colonist role; fearing what the natives might do if they gained any power, they used gerrymandering and police brutality to keep them down, making the situation even worse and simply fueling militant nationalism.
Even though it is started by a terrorist group who can’t be bothered to go back to Ireland
@@yaraelpoof7242 Learn your goddamn history and stop commenting this bs
you dont need to read a book to know whats going on there
don't forget sectarian slaughter and ethnic cleansing while you're at it.
They ain't colonists😂😂😂
As a general rule of thumb, I am usually under the impression that the British are wrong.
they invaded a country that wasnt theirs. Theyve been trying to take Ireland for centuries. I hope they never accomplish it. Its not their country
That’s probably the most accurate way to look at anything they do
As a general rule of thumb, I am usually under the impression that people like you are ignorant
Regardless we usually get what we want 🇬🇧
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117
Yeah you sure did make the royals rich alright.
That dude really said to accept one another after setting fire to a bonfire with an Irish flag on it
Not all bonfires have flags on them
@@ulsterkopite3048 that one did
@Dizzy Dazzle why do some of them have Palestinian flags on it. I am totally ignorant so forgive me 🙂
@@thatindiandude4602 because Republic of Ireland defend PALESTINE and call for sanction against Israel occupation
@@thatindiandude4602 because both Israelis and NI protestants are settler colonists
They're all so detached from what England actually thinks of them hahaha
Yeah its delusional.
They’ll always be paddy’s to the English whether they like it or not
@Jay Stp You are from England? Which part? London? Manchester etc?
@@souvik43209 A lot of Brits are completely indifferent to Northern Ireland or don't want anything to do with them, Even on the political front. Conservatives threw them under the bus, A number of Labour and Social Democrats politicians openly support a United Ireland.
@@souvik43209 because that went so well for yugoslavia……
So committed to the orange order that he's covered his girlfriend in Ronseal.
@Harry Harry that's a bit of a stretch to say the least. 😆😆
@Harry Harry - obviously not - and up to Brexit, I was a committed though pragmatic unionist. However my mocking is limited solely to the DUP. Supporting the hardest Brexit and yet unable to handle it now it has happened. And without the self awareness to admit they got it wrong. Did more in five years to create a United Ireland than Republican paramilitaries did in thirty years of violence.
Do you not think there is a simple objective reason why the British military had a higher opinion of the IRA as a paramilitary force than the various loyalist paramilitaries?
As regards the IRA, why do you think they are supposed to voice a positive opinion about the British Army? To be fair?
@Harry Harry darling, I am not British or Irish and I can tell you that no one mocks the Irish. People around the world loves Ireland, its culture and its bravery trying to get rid of you. The ones that we despise support a nazi royal family, deny that their "empire" was nothing but colonialism and genocide and are delusional about Northern Ireland, which is a beautiful part of the Republic of Ireland. Move one and go back to England where you belong
Is she one of the Trumps?
@Harry Harry lol how can you get mad at this insult when these people danced around a burning effigy that represented mocking their neighbors??
Most kids in England would never say they were "loyal to the crown" 😂
That's a damn shame really.
@@velvettblue157 How can you be loyal to the crown if you grew up in a council estate surrounded by people forgotten by the state?
@@Lgx-ie4if the government government's fault not the royals
The Queen is responsible for all laws that are passed and so many laws are designed to keep people down especially the poor
Well, as a catholic that grew up on the north, what they are afraid off is losing their identity amid a unites Ireland. They think that an all irish government would do to them what the Unionist controlled Northern Ireland did to the Catholics. I do sympathize with them to some degree because that “could” happen. It’s not an unrealistic fear
I was in Belfast on Wednesday and it was just normal, no biggie
I'm from the Republic so I've no hand in the matter, but NI has always been completely ignored by London and a lot of Britons don't even know it's part of the UK. To me that's a real indication that orange men are in a one-way, unrequited relationship with the rest of the UK and should make them second-guess their position.
“I’m from the Republic so I’ve no hand in the matter” - immediately goes on to ‘claim’ that Northern Ireland is treated as second tier by the rest of the U.K. (without bothering to check that Northern Ireland is a net receiver of U.K. revenue) and that the loyalists should reconsider their attitudes to the rest of the U.K.
Seriously?! Go check yourself you subversive little troll. The North is part of the U.K. and always will be ;) ta ta.
yeah Corbyn was talking about how we should govern like we are living in a united kingdom not england. Perhaps shifting parliaments from different regions.
@Rory O'Neill I have no idea what you just wrote
@@angelicking2890 you do understand that Northern Ireland has its own governing body at Stormount and doesn’t do everything that England says.
@@Normalguy1690 lol m8 where do you live no one works in Stormont and they do exactly what England says with no questions , politicians are headless chickens
"I'm loyal to the Queen, loyal to the crown."
But why though?...
Because republicanism is gay
The clown is stupid.
@Jordan May because the Irish were oppressed by the British colonists.
We are Ulster-Scots not English and we are not "loyal to the crown". We are loyal to the United Kingdom including Scotland and formerly including the ROI (originally the UK was the UK of GB and IRELAND). We are loyal to the Queen as Head of State and the Defender of the Faith but not loyal to the royal family. That will be made plain when the Queen sadly passes and the unionists don't accept whoever takes over.
There is no worthy heir so the Queen will probably be the last one to ever hold the power currently held (which is still pretty much total and absolute should she wish, like ability to declare war and peace on other nations). The constitutional monarchy of the UK is an agreement the Queen gives her powers to Parliament but Parliament still submits to the Queen. It's called ceremonial because The Queen doesn't alter the government manifestos or interfere with Parliament and never uses her powers of royal prerogative - if she does she knows it will be the last time she ever does
How is that republicanism
Unionists that voted for brexit: well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions.
im dying... almost fell off my chair lol its not our fault the most noisy people have maybe 3 braincells collectively? i mean im technically a prod because of wonky catholic divorce bs before my time but i have lived in the bogside, some of my best friends are from creggan. speaking with a few braincells.. regardless of prod or catholic. britain and ireland dont want us in the north because of the financial burden that would follow. meanwhile we have hard core elements on both sides.. its not like that anymore in 22, it wasnt like that in 20, maybe even 18 or 16 or 14. lots of proud idiots beating drums for countries that want to disassociate from them at the first opportunity. this is why i find these protestant marches comical. theyre marcking for england in the country of ireland. granted ireland doesnt want us northerners either as it will impact their funds and so on and so forth but were closer to ireland than england border wise.. we are in the country of ireland. theres no sea between north and south unlike north and england. and on that note i quit using braincells for tonight....
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A United ireland is closer than it’s ever been. I hope I live to see it. 💚🇮🇪
It is either going to unite or get ripped in 2 again by British Intelligence.
The hypocrisy of talking about needing to "accept each other" while burning an anti-catholic bonfire is astounding.
Ireland will be one again🇮🇪
It might be in fluffy cloud fairy tale pipe dream land 🌈
Amen
@@ulsterkopite3048 If you love the UK so much why don't you move there hmmmm?
@@ulsterkopite3048 go home to Boris
@@goldeneagle3088 because this is the UK big lad. The majority of the people here in Northern Ireland want to keep it that way! 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Just unite already. These unionists need to realise that England doesn't care about them. Scotland will soon be independent too.
Once Ireland has united, after a few decades the prosperity of the island will be worth it. Ireland has such amazing potential 👍. The unionists can still be British, but part of Ireland. Just like any other former colony. Life goes on.. the empire is finished lads
That’s not how it’s going to pan out son. We will never ever accept a United ireland against our will. Also, the desire for independence has massively dropped in Scotland recently especially with them SNP clowns. Corruption central!
Tone down your rhetoric. Republican intolerance and hatred of the unionist community is what makes a United ireland less desirable, and more likely to end up in a bloody civil war all over again if we have this agenda forced upon us. Your choice. We wish to remain part of the UK and there is nothing you can do to change that!
@@ulsterkopite3048 ok, it is true that the majority of northern Ireland wishes to remain part of the UK. But if attitudes change and the majority of your country wishes to join, would you respect their opinion?
@@baldbread3693 of course not. These people are descendants of colonists who had everything given to them for free, at the expense of the indigenous population, hence why they behave like spoilt children.
They're salty because the country that was fabricated for them 100 years ago isn't the same anymore, and they have had to give rights to the natives. All empires come to an end buddy, the British empires last colony is destined to fail. Whether you like it or not, you'll be living in a unified Ireland soon enough. If not you then your children or grandchildren. Facts. Period. Better to integrate in to a country where you can prosper, than hang on to an empire that doesn't want you
@@user-cj1br1hx9q such a load of biased bullshit. It’s language like that which will make a United ireland less desirable and unlikely, making it less appealing to people in the middle ground who will determine the result of any future border poll if it ever happens. Republican intolerance and hatred is clear to see and it only makes the situation worse for yourselves.
I am a Dutch person living in Ireland for the last 11 years, close to the Northern Irish border and despite the past between the 2 countries I like both countries equally...I feel at home in Ireland but I love driving to the North for shopping, going to parks and forests and have the craic with the people over there..I respect both sides and hope Brexit will not bring the troubles back..It is not worth it..
Russia needs to Get Out of Eastern Ukraine. Give Ukraine back to the Ukrainians!
This feels like Lost Causers in the US south who say supporting the Confederacy is part of their culture
Yeah like that with the same amount of oppression and one extra famine.
I thought the same. They're delusional and insane.
thats a fair analogy, yeah
They're the same people. They both originated from the Scottish Highlands. These people are called Ulster Scots. Look up the term 'Hillbillies' and where it originated from. King William (King Billy, the protestant king who defeated the catholic king in 1690), had followers known as the 'Billy boys'. They moved to America during the Ulster plantation in the 1700s and lived in the hills.
I am not making this up. These people in Northern Ireland are the same as hill billies
@@EGT-kf2hu
That's like saying African Americans and Africans are the same people. Put the two groups together and you'll see how false your statement is.
If you’re British than go back to Britain and let the Irish have Ireland. There’s always going to be conflict when you have an occupying government
You see your right there and your argument should Finish the entire debate but somehow it doesn't.
What about the irish who live in the uk, Canada, Australia and nz. should they also go home. I don’t think you have anything helpful to suggest then maybe you should just be quiet
@@1981fallout The irish in those regions aren't subjugating the Canadians, Australians or new zealanders. The English are occupiers pure and simple.
@@1981fallout Big difference, that's called emigration. You should follow your own advice.
@@1981fallout those Irish didn’t go over there colonize the land and make it there own country though did they
What tropical part of England or Ireland did she get her tan at.
On the rainy side 😂
The sunny southeast! (Which still receives over 800mls of rain a year)
I thought she was biracial at first🤭🤦🏻♀️
At first I though/ she was mixed too.
My cognitive reflexes decreased as a result of absorbing some of the images on this video
Always and without fail the oppressors greatest fears are the tables being turned. The truth is the path toward a united Ireland is inevitable and every year is a step closer to that reality and an eventual end to this conflict.
@@gideonroos1188 lol..wut?
England basically wrote N Ireland off when they voted for Brexit. Too bad nobody consulted the N Irish first…
They were part of the referendum, they had a chance to vote like we all did
Scarecrow Lad we did vote, and it was majority remain.
@@CINCASTTV Both Scotland and North Ireland voted to remain
@@sorryi6685 shame they’re part of the UK then init? But it’s alright when they’re getting free prescriptions. It’s convenient to draw these lines as soon as things don’t go your way.
It seems that the uk doesn’t care about Northern Ireland.
"Loyal to the queen, loyal to the crown"
Cringe
The simple question is why???
She couldn't care less about the loyalists people! It's misplaced loyalty.
It is the epitome of cringe
@@matthewdillon8506 only a idiot would believe the Royals care about use or anyone I'm a Catholic but I agree about Brexit and leaving it all this is just dividing people which is all done for that reason your enemies are mine Governments crown and the vactin and the 1%
Royaltards
British colonisation has caused so much death and strife globally
is it fair to judge the past from the present?
So has many other countries
@@Jordan-bb4xt not quite like the british buddy
@@Jordan-bb4xt Other countries have but not on the same scale as British.
The amount of people starved to death, the amount of natives completely destroyed, the amount of money looted... The British Empire was THE WORST!
@@Mark_Chandler Yes, because the past has caused the present.
There is extreme poverty in many countries because British looted them.
They're in Ireland, burning an Irish flag...that makes no sense to me.
The United States was under English rule in our beginnings, alot of us have English ancestors. Does that mean I'm english still? Should I be flying the British flag? Or since I born in the states and live here, doesn't that make me American? The unionists make no sense to me.
Cause these Protestant/unionists/Loyalists are ethnically british ( ie english/scottish), not irish. American is not an ethnicity. It's a nationality. Irish however is both an ethnicity and a nationality. The irish in the north want the south to 'annex' the north, so that it comes under the rule of Dublin. These protestant british unionists will therefore come under the administration of a catholic irish culture and dublin government that is quite alien to them. How would you like it if you were annexed by mexico or cuba or france? A totally different culture, little in common with americans and their culture. The only commonality is the land mass. And just to be clear, it's possible to be a unionist and not simultaneously a loyalist. I'm a unionist, and i don't support these loser, lower class CHAV loyalists burning tires and pallets in the middle of urban areas and stirring up strife. They're the worst and most extreme form of unionism. To say unionist=loyalist is akin to saying antifa=democratic party, or the proud boys= republican party. They are synonymous yes, but not necessarily interchangeable.
They are in Britain
The United States was under British rule not just English, learn the difference
Northern Ireland is part of Britian, did you even watch the video
I dont think you understand the subtle difference between nationality, ethnicity and citizenship. You need to do a bit of reading.
Nationality and citizenship are virtually interchangeable with each other. Ethnicity however, is not. You can be ethnically african and be an american by both nationality and citizenship. Conversely, a black guy born in england can't identify as being ethnically 'english'. He can however, identify as being of english nationality. He may also choose to simultaneously identify as a british person and he will also legally be a british citizen. He however, is not and can never be ethnically english ie. white.
'I teach my kids that they're loyalist first because of where they come from, their heritage and tradition..' and 'no bargain when it comes to your culture'. Two quotes from the mother that capture the problem. It's inter generational reverence for incompatible identity assertions. Never going to see tolerance with attitude like that
" He knew how to use that club"
Shows a the worst golf swing ever made.
LOL, clearly a shanked shot. I wonder what they meant.
Lmao people will say anything to help prove their point won't they? "It was Tiger Woods brother up there with the sweetest swing I've ever seen!"
@@lambro3001 Tiger Woods is garbage and so was that swing.
To be fair, the guy never said he knew how to use it well
yeah, what kind pf paranoia do you need to be under to see every idiot kid who accidentally breaks a window as an enemy? jeez, man. its not a good look.
"This band is all about family" With a UVF flag behind him.
*Unionist families.
'a family that slays together, stays togethr'
Commemorating the UVF which formed the 36th Ulster Division during WW1. Hence ‘1912’ and ‘For King and Country’. Educate yourself.
@@ulsterkopite3048 yeah right lol
@Brian of Knocknasheega are you claiming they would've lost the war without the UVF volunteers?
I'm from Northern Ireland. Grew up in a hardcore loyalist area, Portadown. I live in Brazil now and this video makes me cringe. My family are staunch loyalists, but I couldn't really care less. I'm very aware that England doesn't care about us. We're like a parasite to them. The Scottish have more in common with us, and we get on with them. I could see a united Ireland happening. Economically, I want to stay part of the UK. But who knows what's gonna happen.
But as for this video, he got the people with the strongest accents, worst fake tans, and some of the worst places to live. Folks, this isn't a good representation of my country. Many people are cool, don't care about this crap, and are very accepting. Plus, we have some of the most beautiful natural scenery in the world. Just don't go to the favelas
Since when was portadown hardcore?
@@layol7398 ever since it housed the LVF, UVF, Drumcree and all the mess that caused, the many riots etc. If you're from NI you must be on disability and blind if you didn't see it
@@eirini98 and you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word hardcore then! Also can see just fine, see in particular the many many areas that are actually hardcore, portadown is calm AF in comparison and has been for years
@@layol7398 that was my point. I'm 35. Grew up means in the past like 20 years ago. Have a cup of tea and a HobNob
@@eirini98 ah, that makes far more sense
As Ireland gets richer and grows way better than the UK does, a reunification will look more attractive. The brexit vote ultimately betrayed the well-being of northern ireland and only a matter of time how bad it's going to be, until the stubborn loyalists realized they've been abandoned.
The poeple in this video are the poorest in Western Europe, they are poor and uneducated, they will never know anything else.
@@Andre80962 That's common in every rich country. a beer costs €20 in Sweden and a parking space costs $150,000 in Hong Kong. Wealth always comes with higher prices, that's basic economics.
@@Andre80962 you do know that Northern Ireland GDP per capita is $35,000 while the country of Ireland is closer to $80,000. Even the UK sits at 45 so the people of Northern Ireland would literally be doubling to tripling their living standards just by rejoining
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Do you base your whole existence on money? Probably not, some things are more important than money.
@@Andre80962 Wages in Ireland reflect the GDP. You clearly have a very biased view of Ireland making your opinion on Ireland irrelevant, but the reality is Ireland beats the UK on GDP, freedom, internet access and speeds, education, healthcare and any metric that countries are quantified with.
7:09 A "British" person saying this while a bonfire glorifying and encouraging violence against the Irish burns behind him is the most accurate portrayal of unionism I've seen.
Imagine being an Irish simp for the British
these simps ain't even from Ireland or call themselves Irish. They were put there by the Brits, largely from Scotland during the plantations.
@@boiledhead Get those northern traitors out of my country.
@@boiledhead and everyone thinks the Scottish are innocent
It's more complicated than that haha
@@boiledhead … those “simps” have been in Northern Ireland for 300 years - they call themselves British and Northern Irish because that is what they are.
Loving these comments, Loyalists haven't discovered the internet yet
They're still in the bronze age
Nah loyalists have better things to be doing than slabbering about the other side on RUclips comments. The superiority complex you folks have is insane
@Mr. Keys you mean what you’re doing right now?
@@riverlagan7782 Did I say anything insulting?
@@MrKeys-tx3jt Irish loyalists have a severe lack of education. The lowest of the low.
I'm an American and I've always been fascinated with the beef between Irish Catholic nationalists and the Protestant Loyalists to the UK. I know I don't know all the dynamics to it or how it feels to be actually living in the midst of all that but I have always felt more sympathetic to the nationalists plight.
I’m an American and I did some private investigating work in Northern Ireland for months back in 2019. It’s a horribly divided and segregated place with no clear solution to achieve peace. A United Ireland is certainly easier said than done but in saying that, I feel sorry for the innocent people that live there. Because they bear the brunt of violence and sectarianism between two rival tribes. I knew a Protestant guy that married a Catholic woman and they both had to move to Scotland because both of their families rejected them. It’s a shame because Northern Ireland is such a beautiful place with great people.
As do I and I’m not just saying that as an Englishman who has Irish (Catholic) family. Genuinely the rest of the UK and the Westminster elite think Northern Ireland are constantly embarrassing us.
@@7ElevenAlphaCentauri Outside of Derry and Belfast it’s a really nice place. Both cities are just incredibly divided with literal walls separating the communities despite the GFA in 1998
@@niallfoley6711 I went to the UK, NI included in 2019 because my company was setting up offices in Belfast and was training new employees. I went golfing in Derry , Antrim, and Distillery and i loved it. Great food and great people and awesome pubs. Most of the places I went to were somewhat affluent with catholics and protestants mixed. But once you go outside of the nice areas NI is an incredibly divided and segregated place and it's really sad. Everyone I talked to says it's mostly poor people and youth without a future getting involved in sectarianism.
Thank you.
Lmao hearing people speak about how they are loyal to a queen. Are we living in medieval times or something?
I know, it sounds so pathetic. What a loser.
“It’s basically split us off from the UK”. No no….the sea was always there 😅 “It’s the start of trying to take us away from the United Kingdom” 🤔 Yet it was the unionists who blindly voted for Brexit…. 🤯
Brexit was a good thing.
@@freeplex589 it really wasn’t considering the mess it’s causing here in the north of ireland and this video is a prime example of why
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 the eu is undemocratic
@@freeplex589 britain is undemocratic for forcing brexit on the people of the north of ireland when 56% wanted to stay.
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 not true, the majority of the uk wanted to leave the eu. Leaving the eu is a good thing
Today Loyalists threatened a nursery that taught the Irish language to the point they had to move.
Tbh it shouldn’t of gotten funded then stuck in a Protestant area to try and force Protestant kids to learn Gaelic a dead language. Why not put it in a mixed school many parents where annoyed at what the nursery and sinn feinn is trying to do.
@@Normalguy1690 *have *got
And why not both areas? Good grief, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Keep up.
@@niallmcardle7 because some people realise learning your child a dead language is pointless if they wanted to start a Spanish class in nursery’s by all means it would be useful in adult life not Gaelic.
@@Normalguy1690 *teaching
You're having a shocker mate. God forbid someone tries to revive a dormant language. Have a great weekend, you need to take it off ;)
Just part of their "culture"
Someday Ireland will be united and independent. Greetings from Iran.
You’ve got your own problems to worry about mate
Love from Ireland 💚
I support this. From Belgium 🇧🇪.
I bloody hope not
@@angeldustxo5802 why do we want that shithole ?
"Well both sides are doing it" is not an answer to stop taunting the other. Perhaps some shame rather than drunken pride might do him so good. Set a better example for your children.
When someone says “Loyal to the Queen” it seriously makes me want to throw up. It’s disgusting. Can’t wait for Scotland to leave the UK. Hopefully Northern Ireland to follow.
What’s it got to do with you?
@Shane Gallagher you’re not even British so I ask again, what’s it got to do with you?
@@eddiel7635 They're human beings commenting on human affairs. I think that's allowed on RUclips
Brother emigrated to Scotland and volunteers for the Independence movement. I truly hope Scotland secedes as well. Stupid people in the media kept telling voters to stay “unified”, which is a fantasy
@@J.S.3259 on what grounds do you hope Scotland leaves the UK and where are you from?
Been going deep on the troubles and its fascinating and terribly sad. To think the soldiers of bloody Sunday were commended by the queen is just mind boggling and disgusting. Commitment to the British crown is misguided and hopeless.
If they did this about a group like black people, people would be furious about this. We need to treat this in a simlar regard, have your bonfires, but cmon this is very anti-irish
Unfortunately that's 'kultur'. I'm all for British cultural traditions, there are so many unique British cultures that the world loves! This however, isn't cultural at all!
If we're being honest Westminster is embarrassed by these people. The only reason they put up with them, in comparison to, let's say South Rhodesians is pure proximity to Britain.
Quite sad tbh.
My Kulture!... There was a border place in the top half of ireland under the threat of war these people are pure hypocrites and pretty much isolated in their own wee world.
They do it about black people too, search up BLM on bonefire. Many anti black things have been put up there. Even take another look at the video and you’ll see they’re burning the flag of Palestine along with the Irish one.
@@IhaveBigFeet Certainly i agree. By no means are Loyalists 'internationalist' in their ideology, you may have people who come from those communities who are internationalist but many are reactionary to 'freedom' causes throughout the world all because... Socialism= IRA= United Ireland= Derp . Proper crazy but sad.
@@user-cj1br1hx9q great point man, I never considered the Rhodesian comparison
Ireland needs to be united
@@caffrey9762 half of northern Ireland is Irish and it was ethnically cleansed by the British
@@appleslovercope
"Loyal to the Queen, loyal to the crown" - what has that old fart done for You amigo? And/or what has the "crown" done for You? Royalty eats and laughs off your sweat.
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It makes you wanna give them what they want so they can see that they're wrong.
The crown is the representative institution of the United Kingdom he doesn’t mean the specific individual solely
@@admiralkipper4540 if that thing is your representation then I really feel sorry for you people
It’s a shocker, I know, but it’s nice to have friends in high places…
There’s a simple solution: The unionists should move to England if they love the Queen so much
I don't care about Britain, I care about Northern Ireland and it's existence. Nationalists will not get rid of the existence of my country, we're Northern lrish not Irish; Ireland is a separate country.
@@JMBPro "We’re Northern Irish not Irish" Well that doesn’t really make sense. Gotta find a new name or something.
@@Hodoss what doesn't make sense? I'm from Northern Ireland, therefore I'm Northern lrish.
@@JMBPro It’s like if someone said "I’m Northern Italian not Italian".
You are claiming you’re Irish and not Irish at the same time.
@@Hodoss I'm not claiming I'm Irish. Northern Ireland and Ireland are 2 different countries. Those born in Ireland are Irish, and those born in Northern Ireland are Northern Irish. Me saying I'm Northern lrish is like a Scottish person saying they're Scottish, or an English person saying they're English.
Northern Irish and Irish are not the same thing. Also Italy is 1 country, it didn't partition, there is no split nationality as far as I'm aware, whereas in Northern Ireland we have a choice of dual Nationality (British and Irish passports).
Unionist kulture? What is that? Hating Catholics? 😂
I was thinking the same thing! Their argument about culture is so stupid because it doesn’t seem like it’s any different. I doubt they eat different foods, shows, movies. They speak the exact same language and I bet very few of them even go to church or would consider themselves religious. The Anglican religion is just about dead. They should just make their argument about politics. They want to be associated with England, they like the royal family etc. Not about culture.
Fish and chips
@@n.n.8423 Tbh the whole "culture" argument is passed down by bitter family members most of the time
Don’t think so, Republicans are the problem!
@@ulsterkopite3048 why for living in their own country? Imagine Ireland took over part of the UK and treated the natives like 2nd class citizens
One thing is certain: the EU is not to blame, this is entirely on the British gov.
Of course you say the same thing about literally every political issue the EU has ever encountered...
Despite the fact that it's an EU border imposed on the UK to protect the EU's Single Market as a result of the EU's demands on the UK during negotiations where the UK sought a deal to reduce EU borders and barriers to trade...
@@LZE. It was the UK's decision to leave, and they knew full well that the GFA had to be upheld.
@@thetowerfantasymusic Indeed. The only threat to the GFA is the EU's imposition of borders.
@@LZE. What do you mean ? Ireland needs a border so that illegal goods don't come to the EU. Where would you like the border to be ?
weird how the Loyalists didn’t feel attacked when they were the only ones provided aid during the Irish Potato Famine🤷🏽♂️
Loyalists didnt need aid they didnt subsist on potatoes
Biggest victims in the world. When you oppress people for so long equality feels like discrimination
@a l95 no ones arsed you mutant
Weird how you're correlating events in 2021 to a famine in the mid-19th century.
@@britard8499 our population still hasn't recovered to pre-famine levels so I'd say its a fairly big issue still
That Irish girl just said "I'm British"? See, it's stuff like that that confuses Americans. She's not British. Britain does not include Ireland. The UK includes N. Ireland, but that doesn't make her British.
I am American and I know more about Ireland than most Irish history than most Irish people. I am not confused.
Sounds like Americans calling themselves Italians when they never left Hoboken
Well, I mean it's the British Isles, so technically...all Irish people are British, in the same way Canadians and Mexicans are "Americans". Please don't bomb my car
@@AlexSaysHi2013 They aren't "Americans", they are North Americans. Big difference. Irish people are not British either, in the same way, you've mistakenly misclassified Mexicans & Canadians. "The British Isles" isn't any kind of internationally recognized citizenship or territory. It's only a geographical region, same as the Americas are. People aren't identified by geographical regions, because it's far too vague & inaccurate.
@@TheVIVIZZZ 😁😂🤣 Exactly.
Might just be me but being a loyalist in Ireland seems like a hardcore case of Stockholm syndrome
Historically a lot of Protestants in Northern Ireland are of English and Scottish descent anyway, so it’s a bit of a mess, really. I don’t think it will happen yet but I’d expect a United Ireland in my lifetime, there just needs to be a bit more consensus (to avoid another Brexit) which seems to be coming through with younger people.
'celebrating our culture and identity' ie killing Taigs!
@@colmmcnaughton2152 take a trip to the bogside, galliagh, new lodge or any other republican ghetto that has anti internment bonfires in august. Same nonsense graffiti slogans but different side of the same coin.
@@ulsterkopite3048 internment was 50 years ago. The battle of the boyne was in 1690 and not even in northern Ireland 😂
It isn't, because protestants were never the victim of the British, Irish Catholics were, protestants are settler colonists from Britain.
Imagine fighting to be colonized smh.
They are the colonizers, most Unionists are descendants of English and Scottish colonizers
It's not about being colonized. It's about being part of a nation and a people you feel more identified with.
The ignorance.
@@MrDude826 ignorant because I share a different view than you? How sad, and ironically, how ignorant.
They ARE the colonisers, that’s the point
They're the colonisers, settler colonists.
The colonised are the native people (as everywhere the British went, Palestine, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, eastern US, south Africa, Ireland, Rhodesia etc.) The Irish.
This distinction must ALWAYS be made when talking about colonialism.
Britain's colony in Europe is causing problem again. Who would have known.
Gibraltar? We'll be taking back Calais, too.
@@RUBBER_BULLET ruclips.net/video/EC9ymT32k6g/видео.html
Enjoy song
It’s a shame this is how NI is represented as the landscape there is stunning, some of the most beautiful countryside in Europe.
If they want to be part of the uk and don’t want an internal border why don’t they just move to the mainland instead of threatening violence towards Catholics? I also don’t understand the logic of menacing their Catholic neighbours because they feel betrayed by the British tory govt.?
For years I've read the comments on the Daily Mail and Express on MSM and they like to chuck the 'move to EU if you like it so much' to anyone espousing the mistruths being spread about Brexit being a piece of cake.
And yes, I do encourage those who can to leave Britain as right now it only seems to get worse and worse, leave while you can; there are great countries to live in in the EU, and lots of Brits already do so you countrymen are already here, the more the merrier.
@@RobLocksley id say this is slightly different. They see themselves as British, which is why they don’t want this border but to put a border between NI and Ireland is to violate the peace treaty and would likely endanger those living near the border and any contested areas. Personally I think an internal trade border is much better than starting a war. The impression I also get is that those who are the most staunch supporters of remaining in the UK are actually of English descent and were given confiscated land to live on to try and settle Ireland. That’s settler colonialism, it somewhat diminishes any legitimate claim to the land.
Its sad that these loyalists havent realised that most brits dont give af about them
No! We care about our fellow citizens in NI!
Northern Ireland is part of 🇬🇧 and we would fight for it.
@@Ricksdiner Lol.
@@Ricksdiner pfttt
Right? They got more internal problems to deal with lolol.
I was okay with them but they are mad and backwards and keep the Tories in power so when they finally #ReUniteIreland I'll be glad to see the back of them.
Not one jot of sympathy for unionists… this is what they get for supporting brexit.
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Amen to that
And their horrible abuse of women and children
I love how they feel like their culture is being attacked meanwhile the Irish were in a literal war defending themselves against the British, for more than 800 years.
Except they werent. Irish rebellions were small until 1918. Meanwhile nationalists are constantly trying to disrupt out parliament, cause crime etc. so that our country fails
Execpt the nine years war that causes 130,000 deaths
I don't think that's very small
as an irish person i find this conflict hard. It’s an on going 100 year old war. Ireland has been bullied and bullied non stop. I hate to see the horrible issues and hatred to each other. But mostly i hate seeing young people involved. Burning the irish flag is sad considering they’re on the Land of Ire literally. It’s unfortunate that ireland still is colonized by the british. Unfortunately it’s time for the british too go home. The walls are already being put up. Ireland will unfortunately always be divided.
800 year war.
Good lord, that tan....
No doubt she's a pretty gal, but, right, enough tanning already. Can't be good for you long term!
She should dye her hair brown or summ idk
She looks like a Dominican 🇩🇴
@@Nkodtb dominican umpalumpa
Brits are white, Irish just happen to be white
You can just feel the tension.
Scary...and this have been going on for decades
“There’s a lot of people stirring up tensions” says the man doing a victory parade
Why dont N.I. unionists just move to Scotland or Wales, and leave Ireland island for the proud Irish nationalists
Why don't NI Republicans move 50 miles south to the Republic of Ireland?
@@JohnSmith-lr1rd The island of Ireland belongs to the Irish not the English, traitors can just go to England
@@JohnSmith-lr1rd Why would Ulster natives leave Ulster just to suite Ulster Loyalists/Unionists
They are not wanted Because nobody wants to receive a hoard of Jeremy Kyle interviewees
@@Ozama1221 Preach 🙌🙌. Ireland for the irish. And England for the English!! Europe for Europeans. Also Algo, i was talking to dave earlier. He says the next bi-monthly regional White Pride meeting is at your house? Is that correct? Also he mentioned that the European KKK central committee has advised that we should leave our white hoods on whilst inside. They help stop the Rona. He says last thing the ethno-nat movement needs is an outbreak of the rona. Will you be enforcing this or can i just wear normal clothes instead of my entire Grand Dragon outfit. Cause it Can get a bit stuffy, you know?
Let Ireland become one
Dude at 6:32 missed absolutely everything with that throw
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@cornelius the 3rd northern Ireland becoming part of Ireland just sounds right and makes sense , the unionists are like the ex boyfriend that's still trying hard to win back his girlfriend after being dumped
I guess the unionists now know what it’s like to feel their status diminishing, the same way the nationalist have felt for a 100 years. As an outsider observing this prideful conflict, I think Protestants need to feel secure in a United Ireland. Ireland should be ONE. The Brits carved it up, just like they did India and the other colonies they ruled. The Brits have created lasting conflicts as their empire shrunk.
India was like 100 different states before they arrived. They didnt carve up anything. It was never united. Infact ireland was never united, except under british rule.
Im sorry but this is so complicated that outsiders really dont deserve an opinion. Britain unified ireland for the first time, the south then broke away from the UK in around 1920
@@godlovesyou1995 The Irish were not United politically, but they were united in religious beliefs, cultural traditions and linguistically. The Brits invaded Ireland and occupied it. The South got their rightful independence. It’s interesting how you describe the Irish gaining independence as them having ‘broken away’ from the UK. It’s hard being impartial when your existing narrative is slanted.
@@t.g.troughton8245 The Brits didn’t colonisé India to unify it. They were not humanitarian saints! They were opportunistic and there to pillaged, subjugate, destroy and loot whatever they could. They destroyed existing social systems that were in place and fomented inflicts between Muslims and Hindus in its bid to divide and rule. It is true that India was a multi-religious, pluralistic land of many states and kingdoms, but it was still India. The Brits did divide India up to create Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh).The terrible socio-political decisions the British made have left political/ religious/ethnic conflicts that have existed till today. Be it India-Pakistan, Israël-Palestine, Northern Ireland (Protestant-Catholic), etc.
@@truthseeker000000 every country did that, we just happened to be the best at it
It's really something how fast the British power in the world fell.
Not only them losing the empire, but they're losing internal stability and have lost their position as a respected world power.
Losing it on the paper doesnt mean much the british are always hidden with their agenda .
You ever heard of The Troubles? They haven’t had internal stability for a while. Frankly it’s their fault for trying to take over other countries
@@agentwashingtub9167 Im sorry which country are you from mate?
It’s beyond satisfying. Personally perched on seeing Catalonia secede from spain. Oh how the mighty conquerers have fallen.. only for their respective former colonies (USA, India, Hong Kong, & Mexico etc) to surpass them globally now that they are no longer raping their people and resources..
@@tz7245 britain didn't really fall their rank has just lowered not fallen because they still have nukes (it's partly because so they can still have a say in world politics so by reminding the world that they have nukes the world might listen on Britain's opinion)and the pound is quite powerful and britain still has commonwealth realms countries that accept the queen as their head of state
So basically, "We want peace, but we draw the line at stopping our divisive bonfires and will kill to keep them."
Lol that spray tan tho Jesuuuuuus
Ahahahahaha 🤣
She will fit in well with the rest of the orange men
She must have made the same mistake as Ross in Friends ( ruclips.net/video/_RP3DZNKJ28/видео.html ).
I was sure if she was white at first
I thought she was just a different race... although I couldn't tell which one since she died her skin, hair, and shaved her eyebrows while asking Andre the Giant to apply new ones with finger paint.
I’ve always wanted to be able to travel back in time and now I don’t think I need to - just visit Northern Ireland its like going back 50 years
Did it never occur to you that NI is the future of the culture wars.
can't imagine the cognitive dissonance of feeling like you're part of the UK whilst being on a totally different island & country, and being reminded of that all the time, collonisers worried about being collonised, United Ireland is inevitable & will be a far better country than the one the racist colonisers tried to impose, they will be welcome and will have equal rights, more than what they offered to native Irish
The fact is British influence in and on the world is declining rapidly.
yup, britain has been acting to big for its shoes for the last 50 yrs, they stil have this idea of themselves as a huge power but they just arent one anymore.
Brexit will make this decline even faster
And Brexit has played a significant part of that. I'm British but I'm sick of our ridiculous superiority complex. It's so delusional and regressive it's embarrassing. Hopefully in time this disastrous Brexit process and interminable Tory right wing rule will be a last exorcism of this mentality and we'll be able to move on and take our place in the world with humility as a medium sized country.
@@dreamer2260 we are already there .
Get over yourself. Most people in Britain, even tory voters just want Britain to be a nice place to live in.
@@niamhcosgrave9545 nope not true.no one in Britain has though UK was a superpower post ww2.why lie Niamh?
One island, one culture, one country. Erin go Bragh!
Well there’s a sizable number of folks up in the North who reject the one people, one country, one culture crap you’re peddling 💩
Tiocfaidh ar la
@@richlisola1 Prods: 1 million
Catholics:5 million
Nuff said.
Jamaica!
@@richlisola1 they will change opinions when they realise they get more money in social welfare in Ireland than the UK
I salute a New United Ireland. It's a matter of time till 700 years of opression will come to an end. Best wishes from Spain.
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And hopefully we will soon also see freedom for Catalunya
@@tikkj Totally different situations. Not only did not the rest of Spain invade Catalonia, take their lands or starve them to death, but they helped them become the richest region of the whole country. Poor immigrants from the south flocked there to work in factories whose exports were protected by tariffs against foreign competition. Catalan bourgeois grew powerful and now they use their influence to fill the heads of people with dreams about independence that would allow these elites to hold all power in their little republic. On top of that, given Catalonia's relevance, if they got independence, that would mean the end of the country as we know it. What remains of Spain would need to be refounded and rethought. Where are the parallelism with Ireland? Nowhere. Is NI a region of England? The English themselves don't give a damn about NI and this sorry bunch of radicalized Scottish colonists that were planted there 300 years ago anymore. Some right-wingers will pretend they care when it suits their political maneuvers. But that's about it.
@@bellezayverdad Northern Ireland isn't a region of England, no, but it's a region of the United Kingdom, which is the country we're talking about. England hasn't been an independent country since 1536. Catalunya want to be independent, but Spain keeps them in the country against their will. You're against this with Northern Ireland, but it's weird how as soon as it's your country that's doing it though, suddenly it's somehow okay lol? For the record I'm all for a united Ireland, this isn't some snarky Brit playing gotcha. As far as I'm concerned, keeping a people under your control against their will is bad regardless of who's doing it.
@@tikkj And Scotland too!
🇮🇪 🇵🇸 we understand!
Tiochfaidh ar la. Our time will come. Onwards to victory. ✊🇮🇪🇯🇴.
@@celticdodge5282 lol
You may understand us mate but I'm sorry to say we in Belfast born during the peace process in a much less violent era couldnt fathom the pure hell you guys are going through in Palestine. I couldnt imagine the terror of living in constant fear of being killed in an airstrike or shot in the streets by an israeli soldier or even losong a close friend or family member to the same circumstances. My heart truly goes out to you and I hope someday palestine will finally be able to survive and overcome such an inhuman apartheid and conflict. Thank you for your best wishes to my country. Much respect from here in Belfast my friend.
I agree totally with that young man. I feel European in the sense of the shared EU values. That has been taken away from me.
This is not me trolling, but I live all the way down in Australia but what do you mean by shared EU values?
Every country in Europe has too different cultures and relations to really be united but aye whatever
Why this extreme loyalty to people who agreed to a deal that obviously threw them under the bus.
And they will still blame Ireland and the EU for this. It really is a mental illness.
Changing a culture is not the same as "canceling" a culture.
Don't think that goblin knows the meaning of the word culture.... 😆🤭
A serious piece turned into a clown show because of that clown.
Northern Ireland should reunite, become part of the EU again and allow the Northern Irish defacto dual citizenship. The best of all worlds....
They already have the right to dual citizenship. Anyone with a grandparent born on the island does.
In the event of a united Ireland the guys says he'll move to England. Why does he think the English will want him?
He has a british passport you condescending smart ass. He can move wherever he wants. He can even have an irish one if he wants as well. And by the looks of it england aint too concerned with who comes to their country, à la the manchester bomber and his ilk.
Well considering moving to England wouldn’t even be leaving the country you can bet no one is going to stop him, i’d be quite happy for people like him to be living on my street instead of fucking Ahmed and Ubumbu
Burning Palestinian flags as well as the Tricolour. Says a lot about the calibre of people we're dealing with