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- After watching the cartoon show, does Doug have a soft spot for the cinematic pilot, or will he hate it like most other critics? Let's take a look at Star Wars: The Clone Wars movie.
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars is a 2008 American computer-animated epic space opera film directed by Dave Filoni, produced by Lucasfilm Ltd. and distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures. It is the first fully animated film in the Star Wars franchise and takes place shortly after Episode II - Attack of the Clones, at the start of the titular Clone Wars. In the film, Count Dooku and Jabba the Hutt's uncle Ziro orchestrate a plan to turn Jabba against the Galactic Republic by framing the Jedi for the kidnapping of his son. While Anakin Skywalker and his newly assigned apprentice Ahsoka Tano attempt to deliver the child back to his father, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Padmé Amidala lead separate investigations to uncover Dooku and Ziro's plot.
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I felt a great disturbance in the comment section as if a million voices cried out in anger and were suddenly silenced.
Could your next review please be:
-Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie (1998)
-Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Toys (2001)
-The Legend of Frosty the Snowman (2005)
-My Little Pony: A Very Minty Christmas (2005)
I don't care what people say I genuinely enjoyed this movie the battle at the beginning is one of the coolest fights and the Walkers climbing up the cliff on teth is awesome
I know it wasn't Disney produced but I'd like to see your opinion of the original clone wars animated mini-series
Actually Critic, there's also a 2003 version of the Clone Wars created by Genndy Tartakovsky.
This wasn’t originally meant to be released for theaters, but Lucasfilm wanted to release the pilot in the theaters to help make up money for the show. It was mostly to have enough budget for the Clone Wars show.
So in order to fund the series they needed to make money off the movie whether it’s good or bad. Kinda like how in order for Jon Favreau to make his best stuff he’ll need to make some bad stuff just so they can make money to fund his better projects.
That strangely makes a lot of sense...
@@andrewstokka3662 studios like Lucasfilm make cash grabs to help fund ambitious television projects. Especially if the network wants to see its profitable enough to make another season of Star Wars.
@@Markimark151 that’s it’s exactly what I’m saying.
This and it was the first three episodes edited together this is why all three acts have mini-acts within them. They were all supposed to stand on their own
3:57 Ironically, Doug was exactly right when he said that the movie felt like it was a few episodes clumped together into a full movie -- because that literally is what the film is. Dave Filoni and the writers wrote a 3 episode pilot with a 1 episode prequel to it (that's what that battle at the beginning is all about), and then George Lucas requested to take all of it and forge it into a full movie to release into theaters.
Not to be overly cynical but there's no way Doug wasn't aware that it was a multiple episode arc glued together for a movie. It's common knowledge that the movie was made that way. He just framed it in the way he did to make a coherent video essay.
Ya when I watch it years ago I didn’t think the movie was that bad, I did find it cool that they got Samuel L Jackson, and Christopher lee back to voice Mace Windu and Count Dooku.
Same. I was a kid, a fan of star wars, so I went to the movies to see it. I didn't find it exceptionally good, but I liked it fine. Ironically, it would be many years before I watched the clone wars series, and with less enthusiasm at first, as I wasn't a kid anymore and the prequels (and this film, which didn't leave me with a lasting impact) had faded a bit in my memory. I liked the clone wars series more and more with each passing season though.
Imagine at the time hearing a new Star Wars movie was coming out and it was THIS. It’s basically four episodes of the show spliced together.
EDIT: In hindsight, it's not bad. It just shouldn't have been released to theaters. It's like when Doug's 1st Movie or Hey Arnold: The Movie was put in theaters despite clearly being direct-to-video movies.
So sorry about that Dooku.
How come when you get hit in Battlefront 2 you lose like 300 health? It's not fair. You're my main.
@@Frogman1212 Darth Vader is better 😉
I personally thought it was four episodes duct taped together. And yeah uh, I was one of those people. You have no idea how disappointed I was when I first heard there was gonna be a new Star Wars movie and the trailer showed this. It felt... disconnected from everything and a waste of time. Probably why I never bothered to watch the show until D+ announced S7 and I decided to finally give it a look.
@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293 Winning with vader is hollow. He's broken.
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Eleven Jedi fighting
Ten gangsters dancing
Nine Launchpad crashes
Eight hammy nobodies
Seven dogs a-barking
Six long delays
FIVE POWER UPS
Four bad reboots
Three magic candles
Two Sith Lords
And a blade in the shape of a key
Nice job on the lyrics you’re doing great 😊
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My guess was going to be "11 cringey moments."
Hellz yeah
Fun fact: if it weren't for this movie breaking even at the box office at 16 million, we wouldn't have the TV series. Its likely because of this movie that has allowed Star Wars to flex it's franchises universe to this day. This was the first movie I saw in cinema's as a kid and I remember walking out, straight up enjoying it and I will always have a fond memory and appreciation of it. I still have the DVD I got afterwards. I might always be a boy of the prequels and you may scoff but I am thankful for all that this movie and LucasFilm has given us.
Not really. This movie made no impact whatsoever. In fact, it was panned by critics and is the lowest-grossing Star Wars film ever. You may have enjoyed it, but it is an objectively bad film. The animation is terrible, the narrative is incoherent, the action is incredibly bland and there's no sense of threat or danger coming from the villains.
But the TV series was going to happen regardless. This movie was just to promote the show.
@@vetarlittorf1807 criticised or not it was a box office success, it generated 8 times its budget, so it was enough to motivate the production of the tv series.
In this case money was louder than words
@@Aqua-chan It had very little impact on the tv series actually. Cartoon Network already had a lot of faith in the show because the 2003 Clone Wars was so successful so they were going to fund it regardless.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Critics is a terrible thing to basse anything off of, everyone I knew as a kid love this movie and it’s what got us into the show
Agreed this mediocre movie was necessary for a great show to happen
I remember sitting down in the theater and watching this on the big screen and really liking it. this is the first Star Wars movie I've ever seen on the big screen so it holds a special place in my heart
Me too
Same, I watched it in theaters. I turned 10 years old 10 days after it was released.
Now I'm 23.
I agree with Doug, for me this isn’t as bad, it’s fine, enjoyable film, nothing great but it’s decent
The beginning to something great I say
Better than the prequels
It really is a fine movie all the criticisms are just from this being a theatrical movie and a small made-for-TV movie
@@theawesomeman9821 Well,the movie versions atleast.
Mostly better than 1 & 2.
I've heard this was originally like three or four different episodes but George wanted a big screen movie and mashed them together which why the opening feels so disconnected to rest of it though it does connect more to hidden enemy and cat and mouse
4:40 Technically, Ventress was introduced in the Clone Wars microseries first. I recommend watching it. The artstyle and some of the voice actors were influential enough to be carried over to the CG series.
I commented on it above but the intro battle is pulled straight from the microseries too. Same planet and similar plot
Yeah, was working up a similar comment but deleted it when I saw the point already being made.
Also, microseries Grievous is still the most badass he's ever been. I really wish they'd kept the original voice with that metallic droning tone rather than the newer version that sounds like angry shouting through a garbled radio.
I think my earliest memory of Ventress was in a Attack of the Clones Art Book as she was a concept idea for the film's antagonist.
I believe The Clone Wars originally was supposed to take place between Clonewars(03) season 1 & 2. That's why the CGI models were so angular they were trying to replicate the designs present in the 2D clone wars.
Though after a while Clone Wars 08 decided to branch off.
Actually the introduction of Asajj Ventress (as well as General Grievous) was in the previous Clone Wars 2D animated series made up (initially) of 3-5min animated shorts and is where we see the trails of Anakin to accends from Jedi Palawan to Jedi Knight as we see on the 3D animated Clone Wars. And the last short end almost directly right before the start of Episode III.
It's worth noting that this movie isn't Asajj Ventriss's first appearance. She was made for the original 2D Clone Wars mini-series that Cartoon Network produced and was directed by Genndy Tartakovsky that came out between Episode II and III. The CG series is essentially a re-imagining/expansion of that.
I was gonna say this but these early comments get swept away.
@@Frogman1212 unfortunately that’s true my friend.
Honestly the story told in those shorts ending with with Anakin fighting Ventress would have been a much better movie than the story in this.
I remember seeing this on the big screen as a kid and I remember the animation really popping, like the colors and sounds really bringing me in
That's odd considering the animation is terrible.
@@vetarlittorf1807 It isn't as good as it became later in the series, yes, but it wasn't terrible. More like a bit rough, and maybe not as well budgeted as it needed to be for a theatrical release. Good rendering farms are expensive... and you know even a little bit about that sort of thing (and full disclosure, I know _just_ a little bit), you can actually watch as the budget expands in the series. Clothes go from solid blocks to shifting material, hair actually starts moving, expressions are better, and so on.
@@PhoenyxAshe Yeah, it actually was pretty terrible. It's very bland, looks very unfinished and repetitive. I also hate how they designed Dooku. He looks nothing like Christopher Lee, but more like one of those Easter Island head statues. I get that they were trying to emulate Tartakovsky's style (because the series was originally supposed to share continuity with the 2003 series, hence we don't get to see Anakin's knighting or the early days of the war and we can see that Anakin and Ventress are already acquainted) but it simply doesn't work in 3D animation.
Seriously, I have played PS3 video games with better graphics than this movie.
To think that such a great animated series started with this trainwreck of an animated film!
I still think it’s better than the last Jedi.
it didn't start "after", it started "with"
@@rubendelgado5098 I meant with.
@@1massboy ⬆️⬆️ and this is why I don’t listen to people when it comes to film criticism.
@@claytonrios1 I just find weird how people make the distinction of this "movie" with the rest of the show when the movie IS the beginning of the show, its like saying "Samurai Jack is a great show but the first episodes suck", because when i was a kid in the tv it wold air "Samurai Jack the movie" but in reality it wad just the first 5 episides put together
Actually Doug, Ventress first appeared in Genndy Tarkofcky's Star Wars Clone Wars series. That's also where General Grevious first appeared too. You should check it out, it's really cool.
Yes
As much as I love TCW, their version of Grievous is an insult compared what we saw in the 2003 version
@@christianfarren1179 I agree, but it is overall the version more consistent with how we saw Grievous in ROTS.
Amazing mini series. The only thing about the prequels that's worth a shit.
@@gamemediafan1714 The reason he was like that in Return of the Sith was because he had just had his chest crushed in a confrontation with Mace Windu at the end of the micro series.
I’m convinced that the last four episodes of the final season was meant to be a movie in theaters. Look at the way it’s structured. Down to the Lucafilm logo at the beginning. They did motion capture for the fight between Ashoka and Maul. They even got Ray Park back to reprise the role. You can’t tell they didn’t mean for this to be on the big screen. I feel like they may have planned to announce it while the season was streaming and give it a limited theatrical release before putting it on Disney+. Then the pandemic happened and they decided to just put it up with the rest of the season. It would’ve been cool to see that finale as a better version of Revenge of the Sith in theaters.
That's the way I watched them on Disney +; all in 1 go.
I watch this Movie in Theaters when it came out and perhaps that's the reason why I only watch 20% of the Clone Wars Series but I will give it a shot.
Yeah the show is much better! Even when I saw the film and show as a kid, I could tell the show was far superior to the film.
Feel like a lot of the hate for this was the timing; I remember it coming out right at the height of the Lucas hate after the Prequels, so charging full ticket price for TV quality animation was not the best move when the fan base was already against you.
Really wasn’t Georgie boy’s best idea
Worked in a theater when this came out, never saw a theater so empty for a Star Wars movie before 😆
Memory unlocked:
I totally recall the theater being nearly empty as a kid. More people watched Ice Age 2.
I see this movie as a saturday morning cartoon to watch, fun and do something else. Action, running, shooting, cool scenes like wall-climbing walkers, sword duels. For a kid who had watched all the Star Wars movies a year ago and was most interested in the Clone Wars back then, this one was something cool then
The fact that Clone wars being pushed for theaters was a choice by George Lucas makes so much sense knowing him .
Yeah it does.
This is the man who thought the Jedi Rocks scene in ROTJ was a good idea, methinks George isn’t that smart
Well, he knew what The Clone Wars was capable of becoming. He knew from the beginning that this was supposed to be a more cinematic TV show than anything that had been done before. And that's the thing of George Lucas. He accomplished EVERYTHING he set out to achieve, and set the standard while doing so. This idea that George Lucas is a hack that was only good because of others is one of the biggest lies in the film industry.
@@mrcritical6751 He's actually one of the smartest filmmakers of all time, and easily the most talented out of the six Movie Brats (Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, John Milius, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg).
@@cy9884 I don’t know about most talented when you Scorsese but the most influential, most imaginative, most business savvy, yeah.
The movie feels like 3 or 4 episodes stitched together because it was. Originally it was like 3 episodes that were going to be the first arc of season 1, but then just before it was released George came in and told them to make the pilot a movie at the last minute, so they hurriedly stitched the episodes together and released it on the big screen. And that is a prime example of why George Lucas needs to be kept in check.
When he has too much power he makes bad decisions
The "movie" was just the first arc edited together for a theatrical presentation. If they ever did a chronological boxest, I'm sure it'll be the original individual episodes after The Hidden Enemy
I still think that Genndy Tartakovsky's 2D Clone Wars is still one of my favorite STAR WARS show over the CGI Series.
THANK YOU!! I'm so glad to know I'm not alone in preferring that show over the CG one. Now if Doug would just review it.
@@Morgil27 Here's hopping, Doug would be surprise how Genndy Tartakovsky did amazing job with the 2D Clone Wars similar ways like he did with Samurai Jack.
The opening to the Clone Wars movie with the clone's radio chatter gives me chills every time I watch it
I actually watched this “movie” first before the show and I honestly loved it and didn’t really have that many problems with it if any at all.
Thank you Doug for defending this movie because I'm one who doesn't think it's THAT bad either.
It really isn’t it’s just four episodes that were meant to be part of season 1 so I judge as that and nothing else and in that case it really not that bad.
For me,
This was a pretty enjoyable decent Star Wars film.
Atleast it was much more tolerable and better than Episodes 1,2,8 & 9 and just as decent and tolerable as Episode 3.
It’s better than the Prequel Trilogy
@@MediaLoverChris02 Heck, this movie and the show SAVED the Prequel Trilogy.
@@ejl423 The Prequels cannot be saved. No matter how good the series was, those movies are the absolute worst.
It's episodes from two different arcs clumsily stitched together.
You have the climax of the Christophisis Arc (which we saw begin with Cat & Mouse and The Hidden Enemy) stitched onto the Jabba's Son Arc.
When viewed chronologically as two separate Clone Wars arcs, it's not bad.
But it absolutely should not have been a film.
That difference between the beginning and ending lines you showed _was_ extremely noticeable. Wow, that was crazy.
Correction: Ventriss was actually introduced _before_ this in the _other_ Clone Wars cartoon, the one that everyone seems to forget even exists.
Yeah, unfortunate. Though funnily enough it is actually on Disney plus. The 2003 2d animated series. Be, nice to see Doug's thoughts on it.
Interesting note: it IS Ventress introduction in THIS clone wars series, but she was technically introduced earlier, in the other clone wars series (2003, I think). And her introduction is much, much more badass in the other clone wars than in this movie, with a fight scene in a coliseum with what are basically gladiators, to prove her power. There was no Ashoka in the other clone wars however.
I am so glad that someone else knows this!
This is the fourth comment about this I found, not complaining though. With enough attention perhaps we can have Doug take a look at the 2003. It is even currently available on Disney plus.
I was like 8 when this came out in theaters and it was like the peak of my life at the time
This movie was an introduction to me for Star Wars and I loved it as a kid!
Surprised you didn’t review this before the tv show doug I mean I was scratching my head when this video came out
Yeah me too
@@georgerobertson7010 i mean the tv show was second for Disneycember and when he did phineas and ferb he did mention the tv show before doing the film on Disney plus
Ventres' introduction was from the Clone Wars mini series season 1, same with Grievous.
Actually, Sam Jackson did voice Mace in this along with Frank Oz as Yoda
Not quite with regards to Yoda. Tom Kane voices him in this one. Still, the voice similarities are impressive.
Yes, these were a group of episodes they decided to stitch into a movie for a theatrical release.
I get the feeling the only reason this was made into a movie, even getting the big screen treatment no less, was just because it introduced Ahsoka. Like they knew she was gonna be a popular character.
Oddly enough, this movie is what got me into Star Wars. It used to play on Cartoon Network all the time and nine-year-old me loved it because I'd never seen a space opera-type movie before. I started watching the series and the rest is history.
Despite the problems with this, I think it serves as a decent pilot to the series, most people hearing about the show will most likely be told it gets better later on, and this nicely introduces Ahsoka and Captain Rex to the usual Prequel cast as well as the return of Ventress from the 2003 specials.
Agreed, and add in Admiral Yularen. And, if I remember correctly (it's been forever since I saw it - don't remember if I saw it more than once, and that was at a cheap matinee showing), it's also where Rex first makes the comment to Ashoka about "experience tops everything" when her still bratty side tried to pull the "I out-rank you _and_ I'm technically older than you" commentary. Watching that relationship actually develop in the series was a wonderful pay-off to having watched that rather cringe-worthy start.
I don’t know if anyone else has said this but this movie wasn’t technically the introduction to Ventress. There was a 2003 micro series of the Clone Wars that had 2D animation. I’ve watched it since I was little and it recently got added to Disney + so I highly recommend it for fans of Star Wars. I can see how this misunderstanding occurred because the micro series wasn’t super popular but I hope Doug will watch and review it because I really enjoy it and the work that he does, including this video!
Also I just realized something: Is Stinky still alive within Star Wars? If the plot for the upcoming Boba Fett series is him replacing the then killed Jabba (by Leia with little clothing), what the hell happened to Stinky? Will Rotta appear to stand against Boba? Or will we say Sticky died when the ship crashed?
I've also have thought about that. I don't think we ever saw him again other than the cameo in a Clone Wars episode. A part of me wants to see him in an episode of Bad Batch, for no other reason than I think it would be funny to watch them try to take care of a baby Hutt.
His name is Rotta, but you do have a good question. In legends he's dead, nowadays nobody knows.
@@TheMandalorianGhostYT I did toss in Rotta’s name in there towards the end. I figured Jabba wouldn’t be so cruel to name his son Stinky.
But I do refer to him as such mainly since a fair sum saw the Rotta subplot to be… meh. Yeah, give a motivator, but we could have done so thing like “a diplomat was kidnapped!” but it is just To save the son.
But yeah, it would be neat if they did bring him back and be either a foil to Boba as a “true heir!” or even have Boba work under Rotta before stabbing him in the back for not having greater ambitions.
But it Rotta’s legacy is just being called Stinky by Vader and his apprentice, that would be unfortunate.
@@mas8705 oh, i didn't notice.
@@TheMandalorianGhostYT It's all good. I snuck his name in there between all the Stinkys
Ironically, the points you brough up about the pacing being way off and how it felt like 3 episodes of the show stitched together were a result of the movie literally being a combination of the original first 3 episodes of the series. Lucas thought that it would be a good idea to combine them to make a movie, but as a result to pacing was way off.
The battle on the crystal planet was supposed to be the pilot and it would've focused on Anakin teaching/meeting Ahsoka for the first time and the next 2 episodes would've been a 2 parter about Jabba's son which explains why they didn't fit together narrative wise.
as i stated before,
"i actually like the first 2 seasons of the show, i even like the 2008 clone wars film (it's not perfect, but i don't hate it). the best way to watch this show (and it's 2008 theatrical film) is in chronological order."
I was first introduced to this film was by watching the trailer at theatres before Kung Fu Panda. In fact this was my introduction to the Star Wars Franchise, this film brings me back so much memories despite this film not being great.
Actually Doug Walker, Asaj Ventress was around for a while before the show came out. She was in the Tartakovsky version of Clone Wars, and had an appearance as DLC on Battlefront 2 (Not by EA.)
Both of which, came out before this movie.
The interesting thing about this movie was the fact that it wasn't originally intended as a movie. It was initially intended as 4 episodes however George Lucas decided she wanted to do something huge and dramatic for the debut of the show oh, so you decided to have Dave Filoni combine the episodes together and have it all play out as one movie.
This was the first Star Wars movie that I watched in theaters, I remember being very excited and I liked it then the show premiered like 2 months later
This was not Ventress's first appearance. She was in the Clone Wars micro-series in 2003 where the episodes were like 5 minutes long. Genndy Tartakovsky directed it, it was great.
The first time I actually saw this movie On Demand. My mom didn't want to pay so I could watch it, so while she was out of the house I payed and watched it.
But after it was done, I felt guilty about it and told my mom what I did. She wasn't that upset, but I told her I needed to be punished; so she took away my TV for a few days.
I watched this at a birthday party in cineam when I was like 10. We had a blast. Playing with our Lego Star Wars and then going to watch this movie, knowing that in a few months the show is gonna release on tv.
I chose to watch this movie in theater over The Dark Knight and I don't regret that decision
Yeah, it's not so bad as a pilot episode. Just a bit awkward.
Also, Samuel L. Jackson reprised Mace Windu in this.
This is my very first Star Wars movie and watched it a lot as a kid. Even though some of the film gets a little worse with age, I still stand by that the opening 20-25 minutes were a banger
I definitely wanted to see a Nostalgia critic episode of the Clone wars movie
Ventress was introduced in the first Clone Wars series, the one in 2D that came before Revenge of the Sith.
It is on par with the beginning of the show. The beginnins IS admittedly difficult to sit through at first, with only the Clone centered episodes being cool. Watching the first episodes and this movie back to back really does feel like they're on the same page, because in both of them Ahsoka talks like a kindergarden teacher teaching kids the alphabet song. I'm glad her actress got better as episodes went on
Doug, you’ve *SO* gotta watch Rebels now, man! I tell ya, the requests are gonna be *FLOODING* in!
Rebels is my favorite Disney series of all time. I hope he watches it for next year
I think he plans to since people already pointed out both The Clone Wars and Rebels connect to The Mandalorian and praised both animated shows. He didn't this year since he spent a lot of time watching The Clone Wars.
“Was this just an arc of episodes duct taped together?” Yes, yes it was.
Actually Ventress’s intro was first in the original Clone Wars series. Also ,George Lucas did state that the character designs were inspired by the facial styles of the puppets from Gerry Anderson shows like Thunderbirds.
The opening battle was originally it's own episode and made a bit later in production. The Jabbas son mission was recorded first.
Absolutely loved this movie as a kid, every road-trip it was either this or spy kids, maybe Harry Potter
His real name is Rotta the Hutt, though Jabba sometimes calls him "Punky".
I should point out, this is the only debut of the "canon" version of Ventress. She appeared plenty of times before that in books, comics, and Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars series (a must-watch of a different caliber from this show), all released between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. In fact, her design itself comes from Episode II's concept art for Palpatine's second apprentice.
*On the 11th day of disneycember the critic gave for me:*
11 Battle droids
10 Dancing street gangs
9...DUCKTALES! WHO-HOO!
8 Expo dumps
7 Super powers
6 Black widows
FIVES CG REYNOLDS
4 Deadly traps
3 Gifted children
2 Lightsabers
and a Keyblade for a kingdom heart realm
This movie was okay, better than the two Prequel films, but I actually enjoyed Episode 3.
2 PT films are better then 3 ST films
There had to have been a better way to make a “Movie that will be turned into an animated series” plot than Jabba’s son getting kidnapped.
Honestly, it does feel like they could have taken any other plot from season 1 and turned that into the movie instead and it would have come out better. Still, looking back on it, it’s understandable that it got panned if this is the “first taste” of this whole new series, but after the clone wars series, this holds up a touch better. Not too much, but at least a bit better.
At the time that movie came out I was in my own fan-bubble where me and my group loved that movie and generally were craving for anything star wars, I was baffled to learn years later that people hated it, the one thing that stuck with me after all these years about the movie is the OST.
I'm glad you watched the movie; didn't know if you were going to. Even if the movie isn't that great, it's the start of the Clone Wars series (not chronologically) and I think it should be part of the journey. Accept the Clone Wars at its highs and lows.
This movie basically encapsulates 3-4 episodes from the CL series, picking up right after the traitor clone episode! It feels a bit more natural when watched in order.
They've said this wasn't supposed to be a movie originally. When they decided to do a theatrical release. They found this trilogy of episodes that featured every main character and introduced Ahsoka and The Twilight spice freighter. The script was rushed into production first.
It’s a mess, but hey, it’s our mess. They tried, and we know the glorious ness that would follow.
The force is strong with this one
The reason it feels like a bunch of episodes strung together is because that's precisely what it is. Specifically that battle at the beginning is the Battle of Christophsis, which we actually see parts 1 and 2 of in the show: "Cat and Mouse" with the cloaked ship and the spider guy Admiral Trench, and "The Hidden Enemy" with a clone traitor, and what is chronologically the first appearance of Ventress on this show. From there, you'd get the beginning of the movie, and I think one episode was going to be called "The Padawan". And I'm not even sure if it was going to be the season's first story arc. Everything with Rotta the Hutt (yes that's his name) was another arc that would have happened later.
For whatever reason, George thought the animation looked good enough to be on the big screen. It....didn't. It's great compared to other TV CGI series at the time, but the film does not hold a candle to anything companies like Pixar were doing. Hell, just on my computer screen it looks unfinished in some spots. And of course to make a movie all of a sudden, it required restructuring written episodes into a film where you can still see the lines between each arc.
Also, Samuel L. Jackson voices Mace Windu in this as well. Terrence Carson voices him in the series.
1:54 Technically Ventress was introduced first in the 2D Clone Wars shorts in 2003-2005 prior to this film
Asajj Ventress actually first appeared in Gennady Tartakovsky clone wars series from 2003, I'm sure people will remind Doug to view that series.
Fun fact there is a micro of cline wars and that is the original cloe wars series that show was the intro to ventress, i hope you can watch it
I kind of have nostalgia for this rough movie since I saw it in theaters when I was very young. Still, you can’t really call this the worst Star Wars movie(at least theatrically).
Its better then TROS thats it
This movie isn’t horrendous but going back to it, it’s super rough. Pretty obvious they were just taking the first step.
While this was Ahsoka Tano's introduction, it was not Ventress'. Asajj Ventress' introduction was the 2003 micro-series developed and drawn by Genndy Tartakovsky, as it was the real introduction (and best version) of General Grievous.
I watched the series religiously on Cartoon Network as a kid, including when it first premiered. However, I was always confused as they the first episode felt more like something from that should be in the middle of the season, rather than the beginning. It's only years after they cancelled it that I accidentally bumped into this film being played on TV that I discovered why the show started the way it did.
It's very important to remember is that these were just a handful of episodes and then GL just declared one day they were going to be a movie and it'll be in theaters. They were planned for be the first few episodes, just not a movie. That's why it feels so disconnected and untheatrical
You were right to feel like it was a lot of episodes put together. Because it is. They were already well into production of the series when George Lucas saw test footage. He liked it so much that he decided to have the show introduced in the form of a feature film. Because the decision to do a Clone Wars feature film was an eleventh hour decision, they took four episodes and meshed them together to make the runtime feature length. The first fourth of the film was meant to be called “The New Padawan”. The other three fourths with Jabba’s son was meant to be a three episode ark called “Castle of Deception”, “Castle of Doom” and “Castle of Salvation”.
Yeah, these were supposed to be four separate episodes and Lucas said to the team at the last minute, make it a movie. My understanding is that some of these didn't even connect in the way they were originally supposed to be released.
And yes, when the plot revolves around a baby Hutt you've already got a problem. I cringe every time I hear the great Christopher Lee talk about Jabba's son, when you say that it's a pretty low bar.
Honestly, with where it started, this show proves that you can recover from anything. The show started with the prequels, which people already didn't like, decided to do an animated series, which people normally reserve for children and don't take seriously, and then had this movie that was ripped apart at the box office. It's amazing the show got as good as it did when it had this much working against it, and a lot of that credit goes to Lucas. He gave this show the support it needed, doling out his own money to make every episode. No joke, Lucas was losing money by making this show
You say this is Venterss' introduction, while it isn't actually true. She was introduced in Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars from 2003. And boy, you shoud watch it. It shows her first meeting with Dooku as well as the origin of Grievous. It's one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars animation.
The thing was these were planed to be episodes for the show but George Lucas and other top end producers wanted a movie before the show released which already had a date in mind so instead of making a movie in 5 months they combined these episodes together
This wasn't Ventress's introduction. She was first introduced in the Star Wars: Clone Wars Micro Series in 2003 created by Genndy Tartakovsky. Mace Windu is also played by Samuel Jackson in this film and not in the show.
Ventress's intro was technically in the Tartakovski 2D Clone Wars cartoons.
Definitely an example of a great show that had a lackluster star. Like Parks and Recreation and the US Office.
I remember watching this movie in my home town movie theater.
4:44 Nope; Sir Christopher Lee voiced Dooku in the 2003 2D animated "Clone Wars" show by the maker of Samurai Jack
even when this first came out, the theaters here advertised it as a special preview of the upcoming TV series. i never saw it marketted as a movie onto itself, just as getting an early, in theaters sneak peak of the show. which...i guess is exactly what it was.
also, technically this wasn't ventress' first appearence. she originally came from the 2D clone wars, which i hope doug takes a look at too!
Asajj Ventress was introduced in the 2D Genndy Tartakovsky "Clone Wars"-miniseries, not this movie.
To me the only real problem with it was being marketed as a film when clearly it's just like the first three episodes slapped together. If these had been the start of the series instead of being presented as something that stands on its own, which I think is fair to expect of a film, it wouldn't have received most of the hate it did.
I love this movie I watch star wars the clone wars movie many time and this movie is my Childhood I watch before I watch the movies
Ventris's introduction was in the original Cartoon Network 2d animated miniseries
She was really cool there, so they kept here here
Pity they didn't keep Durge
Fun fact, Jabba the Hutt’s sons name is Rotha the Hutt. The only reason I know why is I was obsessed with Star Wars LEGO’s.
Ventris was introduced during the Genndy Tartakovsky clone wars 5 minute chapters
I felt like it was odd that this wasn’t the first thing reviewed on Disneycember before the tv show
Probably for the best since it allows Doug to give a more interesting take of the film rather than the typical reaction. And on a side note, interesting to see that the only critique Doug gave of early Ahsoka was her acting (which is in a sense correct since Ahsoka was Ashley Eckstein's first big voice role) whereas most other people critiqued pretty much everything about early Ahsoka.