Mine cut out twice on the first day. I suspected a faulty relay as I once had that issue on a new car. Found great globs of lithium grease which I blew out with a compressed air nozzle. I sprayed contacts with a graphite based penetrating oil and that was the end of the issues. I kept the original relays and they've been fine since. I thought it was just my enfield but looked it up and found your channel. Good for you and thanks.
Cheers Jack, this is a nicely made video that explains things clearly for the mechanically incompetent like me. There is room for stuff like this so keep it coming.
Had this issue with my first interceptor 3 years ago. Had same issue with Meteor 350, super meteor650 and Scram 411. Hours spent cleaning that white grease out, but used original relays. No issues since.
Had a starting issue with my 2020 INT. Replaced with Hitchcock's upgraded relays after carefully removing the white goo. Nary a problem since. Nearly 8000 miles now. Still love the bike! Excellent job on this video Sir.
Brilliant , great to see the young 'uns teaching us oldies a thing or two. I had a similar experience with my new 2021 18k r1250gs the tracker fitted FOC left me stranded twice (flat battery). All things mechanical can break down no matter the price !!. Looking to buy one of these as a second bike. Regards Robert.
Hey Robert. Thanks for your feedback. Yep, anything with tyres fitted can fail! 🤣 Go and test one if you haven’t already. They are a great little bike that guarantees to put a smile on your face every time you ride it 👍🏻
I had same issues, cleaned the contacts with electrical contacts cleaner and put it all back together with the same relays. 4 years on and no issues. I think the relays are fine, it was just the poor contact because of the amount of grease.
@@colcol172 I think you might be right there. I’ve kept the old ones as spares. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Glad your bike is still running well 👍🏻
Why aren't the dealers cleaning the crap out before delivery?? This has gone on too long. The grease has been blathered on to protect from the salt water when shipped. The dealers should be cleaning these up on arrival.
Contact cleaner and compressed air cleans them in seconds. No need to change the relays. Made all the difference to mine. Hasn't cut out since. Cracking video by the way
Nice video dude, and thanks for the links. Got my Interceptor brand new in June and it has cut out only twice on me but this is still on my definite to do list. Cheers.
Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah give it a go, my bike hasn’t cut out once since doing this. Let me know how you get on 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Can’t understand why so much grease applied at the factory. I cleaned all of it off of my 350 Classic and bought higher rated relays as a future proofing precautionary measure. Good luck with developing your channel👍🏍🙂
Good show Jack, I had this same problem with the Y2K V11 Moto Guzzi (the one with the big tube headers and 6 speed tranny) I bought new that year (Y2K). Back then (24 years ago) a quick trip to the local Radio Shack for upgraded relays over the OEM Italians, all was well. I’m currently shopping for a new or used Interceptor or, maybe a Continental GT. Tips like yours here will insure I will indeed have a roadworthy runner
Thanks for taking the time to comment and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Apart from this minor hiccup it’s been flawless. It’s amazing how many people stop and talk to you about the bike when you are out and about, I love both the conti and the interceptor. I went with the interceptor as I only have one bike, I think the conti might get a bit uncomfortable on longer rides. Ideally I would have one of each! 😁
Checked mine today. I do have four and also different relays. Also never had problems with fuel cut out. Changed it anyway while I am in. I do have the Euro 4 from 2020.
I would just have cleaned the grease off. Then put the relays back. If the misfire or stoppage still happened then I would have claimed on the warranty. The relays were probably just losing contact and are still perfectly useable.
Had this issue on my 2019 INT, on a long ride at that, had chain cleaner and a small canister of wd 40 and a few earbuds, worked like a charm in a pinch, replaced the fuel and accessories relays after the trip, never had the same issue for 4 years now. Also do this with your negative terminal battery disconnect plug, will save you some headache in the future
What a great roadside repair that was. Lucky you had the gear on you to make a quick repair and get home. I’m glad to hear the issue never came back. Thanks for sharing your story Chirag 👍🏻
Bought my classic 500 in 2020. The only problem I had was a relay that caused the engine to cut out. Dealer replaced it and I have not had a problem since.
I haven't touched mine for 6 years no problem with the relays or the grease, I'm not convinced there is a problem with them. Internet whispers got a lot to answer for.
@@j.brocky I guess I got lucky too - my Interceptor is 5 1/2 years old & no electrical issues at all. Still on the OEM battery even. Maybe the later bikes have different relays to the early models ? I can't see changing from one sort of grease to another would have any noticable effect - lithium grease isn't conductive. But the new relays being a tighter fit may be the root of your issues. I have yet to talk to another Interceptor / Continental GT owner who has reported these "common issues", so maybe not that common after all ? I guess your bike came from MotoGB stock following the change to RE UK taking on the distribution - my "new" 2024 reg Himalayan is a '22 model year but stickers on it suggest it was made in September 2021. Given the pricing, I can't say I am too bothered by that. Heads up - my rear shocks lost damping after 2 1/2 years - swapped under warranty no problem. Another 2 1/2 years down the line the replacements lost damping just like the originals. No leaks, just no damping. The problem appears to be that the remote resevoirs have lost prerssure, but they can be re-pressurised with a sub-£20 re-pressurising tool from Ebay & an air source. The tool has a hypodermic needle that is inserted through a small hole in the closing plate at the bottom of the reservoir - under the plate is a self-sealing rubber plug that you push the needle through. Then connect the Schraeder valve at the other end of the tool to a pump (I used a bicycle track pump) and put in 100-120 psi. When you pull the needle out, the rubber plug seals the pressure in the reservoir. Doing this to my bike fully restored the shocks to normal operation. I guess that the original pressure medium was probably 100% nitrogen. but normal air is working for me ATM.
@@mgnbukint6502 it certainly was motoGB stock. I’m not bothered about the date it was manufactured either. I got a brand new bike at a great price. That’s interesting what happened with the rear shocks. Apart from that how are you liking the Himalayan?
I didn't have an issue with my Bullet 350 but when I went to Haywards of Cambridge to do my first 300 miles service check, they've found that my relays were not clean as well. Problem really starts when the paste/grease starts to dry out and crumbles, it looses its conductivity. This issue would not happen if the dealer prepare the bike exactly as it should be before selling it. It makes sense to conserve bike for storage, it may be years before it will be sold, but once sold this should be cleaned before handing over the vehicle.
I bought an interceptor earlier in the year and the first thing i did was clean the relays out with some wd40. They put a ridiculous amount of grease in them, not had an issue since
I literally got rid of my bike... likely because if this. It took over a year for this to happen in my case. I took it to the dealership and they were giving me fits about warranty even though the bike was one year into three year warranty. I traded it for a Triumph T120 and couldn't be happier...but this is still good info for future reference 😂
Its such a lovable bike, but you guys are so tolerant...40 yrs running second hand Japanese bikes (bought new ones when i was younger) and this sort of thing simply doesn't occur....in my experience. Its a lovely video though and so well presented 👍
Can’t beat the Japanese for reliability, I absolutely love their engineering. I think having these little niggles is part of the charm of these Enfields. Thanks for your feedback on the video 👍🏻
Just one thing though. Dielectric grease actually is non conductive. So could potentially interfere with the connection later on down the line. If it gets inbetween the connection. I feel just leaving the connectors clean might be the best idea. I think there are other anti corrosion agents you can use.
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. All I can say is since doing this my bike is running sweet and it doesn’t cut out every 5 minutes now! 🤣
@@j.brocky I guessed so thought I'd just mention it incase anyone opened the packet and scratched their head over it. I have the meteor and so far its been 11K KM fine with out any Relay work but if I do go for the 650 platform Ill keep this one in mind . BTW how does a machine on blow clear the grease from a space thats a female plug? I'd thought a vacuumson suck would have been better?
@ the meteor is a great looking bike. Glad she’s being good to you. That pet dryer is really powerful. It literally blasts the grease out anyway it can, it goes everywhere 🤣
GREAT video. Please place an edit in the screen at some point telling people to disconnect their battery. Just for those with little experience :-). Well done!
I bought my Interceptor used about 8 weeks ago with 1400 miles on the clock (2020). It ran perfectly until about 2 weeks ago when I had problems starting it when warm, it was really lumpy and would not throttle up, kept stalling. RUclips and the RE owners forums all suggested the relay swap as the first step. It seems to have cured the problem, and having been out for several 50+ mile runs, all seems good 👍. I, too, used the Bosch relays, lots of grease also 😢
It’s crazy how doing this simple mod completely transformed my bike too. We are now two happy Interceptor owners 😊 Thanks for sharing your experience. Ride safe
Gidday Jack. Bought my Interceptor new, here in NZ, (2021) and the fuel pump relay failed at about 800kms. My RE dealer knew straight away what the issue was…I was not the first, so they swapped out the three OE relays with aftermarket ones, and cleaned the factory grease away, replacing with proper electrical grease. Problem solved. From that point on they went on to do that procedure with all their new stock of RE models prior to selling. Good vid, cheers mate. Bill
This is an old issue. I bought a 2019 bike from new. Once I changed the relays not had issue since. No idea why they pack so much grease in but as you say easy fix
Excelente vídeo la marca que más me gusta mecánica sencilla y tecnología justa tengo la Royal Meteor 350 con 13.000 km nunca un problema otro ya paso los 50.000 y va cada dia mejor , tenia pensado pasar a una 650 pero Royal cada vez saca más motos unas mas lindas que otras vere más adelante , gracias por el video de mucha utilidad saludos y feliz Navidad lo mejor para ustedes .
Glad you enjoyed it Luis! I love my Enfield too, it’s good to hear yours is still going strong! Yeah so many nice 650s now. The classic 650 is my favourite. Thanks, all the best to you and yours too 🙏🏻
I bought a 2021 Interceptor brand new 👍 which is a Euro 4 I've never had any issues with it' I'm not a mechanic, But I have over 50 years of Motorcycling experience, and I have done all my own servicing on it, Seems to me if I had a brand new Interceptor i still wouldn't spend a penny on it if it was under warranty ❓ But each to his own, Couldn't you have used Q-tips to get the grease out, progressing to de-greaser spray ❓ Cheers Paul 👍
Hi Paul, happy to hear your Interceptor has been good to you. Hopefully mine will be now too. For me the wait to get in at my local dealership is on average 3-4 weeks, once it’s in there I’ve then got to wait for them to diagnose it (if they can) and finally wait for parts. This is a cheap fix so personally it’s a no brainer for me to do the job myself. If the bike had a more serious/expensive issue I would 100% be letting the dealership look at it. Yeah Q-tips might work, providing they are small enough to fit into the female connection. Whatever you can get your hands on to get the job done. Thanks for dropping a comment 👍🏻
What year is your Interceptor? Thanks. Yes, changed my relays as you have done after seemingly unrelated issues. Never an issue since. Mine is a 22. Surprised it is still happening.
Bit of a weird one my bike. So I bought it as a brand new bike, unregistered and in its crate still, obviously with zero miles on it. When I bought it, it got registered to me as the first owner on a ‘24’ plate but the bike was actually manufactured in 2022. I still got the 3 years warranty and a LOT of money off the price
@@j.brocky Thanks and that makes sense. Don't worry it is a 22. You got a deal I am sure. My query was if you had a 24 and there were still all the issues of a few years ago as I believe RE have made changes to the relays themselves -- though the grease is the same. Enjoy your ride. They are really reliable bikes. 13,000 miles and my Interceptor sings.
Jack as a mechanic what do you think of owning a new bike that is required to have the valve clearances checked at 300miles? I assume you are not a motorcycle mechanic?
It’s not the best is it. I was shocked when O found this out (after buying the bike!). Yeah trained as a car mechanic. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment
They are simple old fashioned screw and locknut tappets. we have got used to modern bikes having shims and buckets and high tolerances. The check is just a safety measure as they bed in a bit more than shims do. Some just need checking others may need a tweak to get the correct gaps but once done are generally fine. It's just that initial few hundred miles. It takes minutes to do hardest part is getting the tank and cover off. Back in the day we used to have to "run in" cars and bikes at say 50 mph for some time to allow all the components to "bed in" and this is what you are checking them for. We used to get running in stickers for the back window of a new car "running in please pass" so that following traffic understood why you were going slow. Same with the filters it's not really necessary it's more a "just in case" type thing.
I’ve heard people having issues with the classic 350. I’d imagine it’s all of the models, this must be a standard practice for the installers at the factory. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Anyone know if the oem relays are defective, or if the method of relay installation at time of manufacture is the culprit? I bet that used Triumph is looking pretty good now. :)
I’ve heard mixed stuff on here in the comments. Some saying it’s just the grease that’s the problem, others saying they cleaned out the grease and the fault was actually with the relays. I’m hoping this is the end of my bikes issues, for now at least! Triumph one day hopefully 🤞🏻
I wouldn’t have thought so, but if you do need to take your bike back to the dealer with a warranty claim just refit your old relays for when it goes back in.
Hey Jack , this is sakeeb from india , i got my INT 650 this jan Recently i felt that the front brake leaver is tightened a bit and i am getting a small feedback from the brake when ever i press the lever. could you tell me what might be wrong ? should i see a mechanic near me ?
This problem is the same on ALL RE released after 2020(since the new J engine is out). A friend bought a Super Meteor three month ago, same glue white stuff in relays an the dealer had no idea about it! So we can imagine they don't read RE notices OR RE don't tell them?. What a shame for RE, trying to save money on that and create a problem themself. Saving bikes from sea salt is very nice but make it run on the road will be nicer...
It’s not the best is it. I’ve got a feeling every plug on the bike is going to be filled with this stuff too! I don’t want to look 🫣 Thanks for your comment
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍🏻
@JackBrock-YT thanks, I've the same colour scheme, had it a year now,today she cut out just the once,started straight away with a slow bump start,next job on list is this grease clean up.will give your channel a follow, hope to get one back, York biker.
@ it’s the best colour 😉. Thanks for the follow. I’ve just subscribed to your channel. Yeah give it a go. Fingers crossed it fixes it for you. Let me know how you get on
interesting, why did you take out a 4 pin relay and replace it with a 5 pin when 4 pin relays tend to be more stable and reliable, I think the earlier bikes had 5 pin relays that failed
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. I’ve never heard of 4 pin relays being more stable than 5 pin ones before. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. All I can say is since doing this my bike is running sweet and it doesn’t cut out every 5 minutes now! 🤣
That’s totally up to you. I’ve never disconnected a battery to remove a relay. If the bike was running I wouldn’t advise it but with the ignition switched off it won’t do any harm.
I find it shocking that RE are still having Interceptor problems caused by crappy relays. I bought one of the first Interceptors in the country back in 2019. Within 50 miles mine started playing up. The cause ?.....rubbish relays. Changed them for decent automotive replacements..no further trouble!
@JackBrock-YT oh no, it was 100% reliable over 15 months and over 9000 miles. But I recall all this grease talk and the problems with the Intercepter even back then 😉
Is this lithium grease applied in India? If yes, this means there are out there many non reliable RE bikes waiting to stop working because of this issue. Good to know, I will never buy one.
The British are amazing. They proved in the sixties that they were not capable of designing or building reliable motorcycles. Now 60 years later the British are designing motorcycles again. The only improvement is that they are built in India. This Brit prefers the warranty of a new motorcycle and buys it. When it fails he repairs it himself and make his three years warranty invalid. Brexit is no longer a mystery. Craziness has ruled those islands for many, many years. Rule, Britannia! Britannia rules the fools.
Thanks for your comment. I don’t think I’ve made my warranty invalid by replacing three relays. If I ever have any issues with the bike that requires me to make a warranty claim, I will fit the old relays before taking the bike back to the dealer. They will be none the wiser, unless they watch this video 🤣
Being riding bikes since the 80s....never had a bad bike from the shop until my latest buy. Speedo cable came off, tyres not properly pressured and a few other small problems....all due to LAZY mechanic......NEVER goes to the shop again, ever!
Sounds like you had a nightmare there Googel. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope you’ve found a better mechanic to maintain your bike, or better still you are doing it yourself 🔧👍🏻
Mine cut out twice on the first day. I suspected a faulty relay as I once had that issue on a new car. Found great globs of lithium grease which I blew out with a compressed air nozzle. I sprayed contacts with a graphite based penetrating oil and that was the end of the issues. I kept the original relays and they've been fine since. I thought it was just my enfield but looked it up and found your channel. Good for you and thanks.
It’s not a good feeling when it cuts out on your first ride is it?! Glad it’s sorted. Thanks for dropping a comment and sharing your story
Cheers Jack, this is a nicely made video that explains things clearly for the mechanically incompetent like me. There is room for stuff like this so keep it coming.
Thanks Mike, I appreciate your feedback. Will do 👍🏻
Had this issue with my first interceptor 3 years ago. Had same issue with Meteor 350, super meteor650 and Scram 411. Hours spent cleaning that white grease out, but used original relays. No issues since.
Glad you managed to fix it and the issues never came back 😊
Had a starting issue with my 2020 INT. Replaced with Hitchcock's upgraded relays after carefully removing the white goo. Nary a problem since. Nearly 8000 miles now. Still love the bike! Excellent job on this video Sir.
That’s great news. I’ve heard they are a reliable bike. Thanks for your feedback 👍🏻
Brilliant , great to see the young 'uns teaching us oldies a thing or two. I had a similar experience with my new 2021 18k r1250gs the tracker fitted FOC left me stranded twice (flat battery). All things mechanical can break down no matter the price !!. Looking to buy one of these as a second bike. Regards Robert.
Hey Robert. Thanks for your feedback. Yep, anything with tyres fitted can fail! 🤣
Go and test one if you haven’t already. They are a great little bike that guarantees to put a smile on your face every time you ride it 👍🏻
I had same issues, cleaned the contacts with electrical contacts cleaner and put it all back together with the same relays. 4 years on and no issues. I think the relays are fine, it was just the poor contact because of the amount of grease.
@@colcol172 I think you might be right there. I’ve kept the old ones as spares. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Glad your bike is still running well 👍🏻
Did you use any grease after cleaning the contacts, or just leave them clean?
Clear and easy instructions Jack. Keep it coming! 10k service video (when you get there!)
Thanks Robert. Yeah will do 👍🏻
Great video Jack. Well done and good clear explanation of the process. Thanks!
Thank you Troy, I appreciate your feedback.
Thank you. As a still-learning backyard tinkerer, I never knew about grease in electrical fittings.
No worries, glad to help 👍🏻
Why aren't the dealers cleaning the crap out before delivery?? This has gone on too long. The grease has been blathered on to protect from the salt water when shipped. The dealers should be cleaning these up on arrival.
I know! It’s shocking to be honest 😔
Some of the dealers are. My Interceptor has 47,000 miles on it without fiddling with the relays and never any issues.
quite -- squirt some ac50 on cleaned parts , that's it , dealers are terrible ;
They don’t float them across from India so they’re not worried about salt water 😂
Got mine after a 3 day long pdi pre delivery inspection and the tail light wasn’t even wired up. Total joke
Contact cleaner and compressed air cleans them in seconds.
No need to change the relays.
Made all the difference to mine. Hasn't cut out since.
Cracking video by the way
Thanks Ian 👍🏻
Nice video dude, and thanks for the links. Got my Interceptor brand new in June and it has cut out only twice on me but this is still on my definite to do list. Cheers.
Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah give it a go, my bike hasn’t cut out once since doing this. Let me know how you get on 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Can’t understand why so much grease applied at the factory. I cleaned all of it off of my 350 Classic and bought higher rated relays as a future proofing precautionary measure.
Good luck with developing your channel👍🏍🙂
It’s crazy isn’t it! I love the classic 350, what a machine. Thanks Paul 👍🏻
It is applied for cold storage. Bikes may spend years before they are sold, however it should be the dealership job to prepare the bike for use.
The euro 5 requires a new map, check it's been done. If the stalling persists then disconnect the evap cartridge
Thanks Chris. It’s all good since I replaced the relays 👍🏻
Thank you !!!!!!!!! I was looking for this for ages
Glad I could help 👍🏻
Good show Jack, I had this same problem with the Y2K V11 Moto Guzzi (the one with the big tube headers and 6 speed tranny) I bought new that year (Y2K). Back then (24 years ago) a quick trip to the local Radio Shack for upgraded relays over the OEM Italians, all was well. I’m currently shopping for a new or used Interceptor or, maybe a Continental GT. Tips like yours here will insure I will indeed have a roadworthy runner
Thanks for taking the time to comment and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Apart from this minor hiccup it’s been flawless. It’s amazing how many people stop and talk to you about the bike when you are out and about, I love both the conti and the interceptor. I went with the interceptor as I only have one bike, I think the conti might get a bit uncomfortable on longer rides. Ideally I would have one of each! 😁
I haven't got a Interceptor but the principles for problem solving will be the same for other bikes
Very true 👍🏻
Checked mine today. I do have four and also different relays. Also never had problems with fuel cut out. Changed it anyway while I am in.
I do have the Euro 4 from 2020.
Yeah I think the euro 4 have 4 relays and they are 5 pin. I could be wrong though
I stopped having problems with my tenere when i got a lithium battery. They're pretty expensive but the electronic never showed any problems again.
That’s interesting. I love the Tenere, great machine. Thanks for dropping a comment 👍🏻
You could always use a hairdryer to help melt the grease .....but not to close or to long !!!!😁
That’s a good point! 🤣
Why do the relays need changing? Surely just cleaning the grease off is enough?
For peace of mind I would rather have quality Bosch relays over unbranded ones. I’ve kept the old ones as spares, thanks for your comment 👍🏻
I am riding original ones, no problem at all. I had to get them cleaned though.
I would just have cleaned the grease off. Then put the relays back. If the misfire or stoppage still happened then I would have claimed on the warranty.
The relays were probably just losing contact and are still perfectly useable.
@@tivvy-xf4kz I think you are right there. I’ve kept hold of the old ones as spares. I feel more confident having Bosch ones fitted now though.
I did same. Cleaned with spray. Used original relays. All good. Bike yr 2020.
Had this issue on my 2019 INT, on a long ride at that, had chain cleaner and a small canister of wd 40 and a few earbuds, worked like a charm in a pinch, replaced the fuel and accessories relays after the trip, never had the same issue for 4 years now. Also do this with your negative terminal battery disconnect plug, will save you some headache in the future
What a great roadside repair that was. Lucky you had the gear on you to make a quick repair and get home. I’m glad to hear the issue never came back. Thanks for sharing your story Chirag 👍🏻
Very useful, first mod any RE650 owner should carry out.
Yes I 100% agree. Glad you found it useful
Never had a problem with mine runs like a dream,
Never had a problem.......yet. Simple to clean grease out. Use original relays. Better safe than sorry !
Great stuff Garry, thanks for watching 👍🏻
Yay for Garry , everyone !
@@barryfrancis7421 🥳
Bought my classic 500 in 2020. The only problem I had was a relay that caused the engine to cut out. Dealer replaced it and I have not had a problem since.
That’s great. Has it been a reliable bike apart from the relay issue? Thanks for sharing your story 👍🏻
@@j.brocky Yes - reliable, no other problems.
Previous owner of mine had already done this, but great video.
Happy days 😊
I haven't touched mine for 6 years no problem with the relays or the grease, I'm not convinced there is a problem with them. Internet whispers got a lot to answer for.
I think you got lucky there! 😉
I fully agree with you. It's become an obsession with a few folks.
Worked on mine but hey ho
@@j.brocky I guess I got lucky too - my Interceptor is 5 1/2 years old & no electrical issues at all. Still on the OEM battery even. Maybe the later bikes have different relays to the early models ? I can't see changing from one sort of grease to another would have any noticable effect - lithium grease isn't conductive. But the new relays being a tighter fit may be the root of your issues. I have yet to talk to another Interceptor / Continental GT owner who has reported these "common issues", so maybe not that common after all ?
I guess your bike came from MotoGB stock following the change to RE UK taking on the distribution - my "new" 2024 reg Himalayan is a '22 model year but stickers on it suggest it was made in September 2021. Given the pricing, I can't say I am too bothered by that.
Heads up - my rear shocks lost damping after 2 1/2 years - swapped under warranty no problem. Another 2 1/2 years down the line the replacements lost damping just like the originals. No leaks, just no damping. The problem appears to be that the remote resevoirs have lost prerssure, but they can be re-pressurised with a sub-£20 re-pressurising tool from Ebay & an air source. The tool has a hypodermic needle that is inserted through a small hole in the closing plate at the bottom of the reservoir - under the plate is a self-sealing rubber plug that you push the needle through. Then connect the Schraeder valve at the other end of the tool to a pump (I used a bicycle track pump) and put in 100-120 psi. When you pull the needle out, the rubber plug seals the pressure in the reservoir. Doing this to my bike fully restored the shocks to normal operation. I guess that the original pressure medium was probably 100% nitrogen. but normal air is working for me ATM.
@@mgnbukint6502 it certainly was motoGB stock. I’m not bothered about the date it was manufactured either. I got a brand new bike at a great price.
That’s interesting what happened with the rear shocks. Apart from that how are you liking the Himalayan?
Great Video! Mine hasn't done it yet. I am linking this in my Maintenance playlist for others to see hopefully. Named my son Jack too. Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to drop a comment and I’m glad you liked it. More content is on the way 👍🏻
I suspect the same issue on my Meteor 350.
Check them out Frank, it doesn’t take long. Thanks for your comment
The meteor has been known to throw up check engine light because of this reason
Top stuff 👏
Nice one Raymond 👍🏻
Really good video, thanks.
I have subscribed and hope that you do some more videos on the Interceptor in the future.
Thanks for the feedback and subscribing. Yes plenty of videos on the way. Swapping the factory mirrors next 😊
@@j.brocky 👍
Good catch. If the relays are of demonstrably the same or better quality than the originals, it won’t void the warranty.
That’s exactly what I was thinking Andrew 👍🏻
I didn't have an issue with my Bullet 350 but when I went to Haywards of Cambridge to do my first 300 miles service check, they've found that my relays were not clean as well. Problem really starts when the paste/grease starts to dry out and crumbles, it looses its conductivity.
This issue would not happen if the dealer prepare the bike exactly as it should be before selling it. It makes sense to conserve bike for storage, it may be years before it will be sold, but once sold this should be cleaned before handing over the vehicle.
Sounds like you’ve got a great dealership there. Hope the bullet is still treating you well. Thanks for dropping a comment 👍🏻
Hope you succeed with the channel, at least you have a solid background, looking forward to a motorcycle review.
Thanks for the kind words. A review is definitely on the cards 👍🏻
I bought an interceptor earlier in the year and the first thing i did was clean the relays out with some wd40. They put a ridiculous amount of grease in them, not had an issue since
Good stuff Daniel. Hope you are loving your new bike! 🏍️ 💨
I literally got rid of my bike... likely because if this. It took over a year for this to happen in my case. I took it to the dealership and they were giving me fits about warranty even though the bike was one year into three year warranty. I traded it for a Triumph T120 and couldn't be happier...but this is still good info for future reference 😂
That’s a nice upgrade David! I love all Triumphs, great bikes. I will have one eventually 🤞🏻
Fantastic explanation 🎉cheers.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks
Excellent information
Thank you Homi 🙏🏻
Its such a lovable bike, but you guys are so tolerant...40 yrs running second hand Japanese bikes (bought new ones when i was younger) and this sort of thing simply doesn't occur....in my experience. Its a lovely video though and so well presented 👍
Can’t beat the Japanese for reliability, I absolutely love their engineering. I think having these little niggles is part of the charm of these Enfields. Thanks for your feedback on the video 👍🏻
@JackBrock-YT As a classic bike lover I get that 👍
Sir plz make some video On Intercaptor 650s Gearbox fitment and Timeing and aslo tappet Setting.........
More content on it’s way 👍🏻
@j.brocky Ok sir
Great video. Really clearly explained. Thanks.
Thank you, glad it was helpful.
Just one thing though.
Dielectric grease actually is non conductive. So could potentially interfere with the connection later on down the line. If it gets inbetween the connection.
I feel just leaving the connectors clean might be the best idea.
I think there are other anti corrosion agents you can use.
Love it!
Thank you 🙏🏻
and wath about the connection bitween the inginne and the back wheel ,for charging the batt ,a lot of problems see on you tube
I will have to check this out, thanks
Good one mate.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
didn’t the bosh one have three blades on one side and the RE just two?
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. All I can say is since doing this my bike is running sweet and it doesn’t cut out every 5 minutes now! 🤣
@@j.brocky I guessed so thought I'd just mention it incase anyone opened the packet and scratched their head over it. I have the meteor and so far its been 11K KM fine with out any Relay work but if I do go for the 650 platform Ill keep this one in mind . BTW how does a machine on blow clear the grease from a space thats a female plug? I'd thought a vacuumson suck would have been better?
@ the meteor is a great looking bike. Glad she’s being good to you. That pet dryer is really powerful. It literally blasts the grease out anyway it can, it goes everywhere 🤣
For me it was the RR unit that was faulty. Had it replaced under warranty, no issues so far.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Great helpful little video! 👍 Just for clarity.... you changed 3 (of the same) relays, right? Thank you.
Thank you. Yes all the same relays
I had this issue, but after having the bike in the shop 3 times, the dealer fitted a new ECU. So perhaps it's not always a grease issue.
Was that on the Interceptor or another RE model?
I'd be interested in a video where you wash your bike and then use that pet dryer.
It’s coming! Thanks for taking the time to comment
GREAT video. Please place an edit in the screen at some point telling people to disconnect their battery. Just for those with little experience :-). Well done!
Thanks man 🙏🏻
I bought my Interceptor used about 8 weeks ago with 1400 miles on the clock (2020). It ran perfectly until about 2 weeks ago when I had problems starting it when warm, it was really lumpy and would not throttle up, kept stalling. RUclips and the RE owners forums all suggested the relay swap as the first step. It seems to have cured the problem, and having been out for several 50+ mile runs, all seems good 👍. I, too, used the Bosch relays, lots of grease also 😢
It’s crazy how doing this simple mod completely transformed my bike too. We are now two happy Interceptor owners 😊
Thanks for sharing your experience. Ride safe
Helpful 👍🏻
Thanks. Glad you found it helpful 👍🏻
Great looking bike 👍 that was a lot of grease
Thanks Glyn, yeah it sure was!
Brilliant
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Gidday Jack. Bought my Interceptor new, here in NZ, (2021) and the fuel pump relay failed at about 800kms. My RE dealer knew straight away what the issue was…I was not the first, so they swapped out the three OE relays with aftermarket ones, and cleaned the factory grease away, replacing with proper electrical grease. Problem solved. From that point on they went on to do that procedure with all their new stock of RE models prior to selling. Good vid, cheers mate. Bill
Hey Bill. Sounds like you’ve got a great RE dealer there. That’s a rare find these days. Thanks for the feedback on my video, appreciate it 👍🏻
@@j.brocky Yep, good buggers at Motorcycle Replacements, (MCR), Dunedin NZ.
This is an old issue. I bought a 2019 bike from new. Once I changed the relays not had issue since. No idea why they pack so much grease in but as you say easy fix
Thanks for taking the time to comment Andy. Yeah a nice quick fix. Was your bike cutting out too then?
@JackBrock-YT yes was cutting out from new but I checked the forums and this fix worked.
Excelente vídeo la marca que más me gusta mecánica sencilla y tecnología justa tengo la Royal Meteor 350 con 13.000 km nunca un problema otro ya paso los 50.000 y va cada dia mejor , tenia pensado pasar a una 650 pero Royal cada vez saca más motos unas mas lindas que otras vere más adelante , gracias por el video de mucha utilidad saludos y feliz Navidad lo mejor para ustedes .
Glad you enjoyed it Luis! I love my Enfield too, it’s good to hear yours is still going strong! Yeah so many nice 650s now. The classic 650 is my favourite. Thanks, all the best to you and yours too 🙏🏻
I bought a 2021 Interceptor brand new 👍 which is a Euro 4
I've never had any issues with it'
I'm not a mechanic,
But I have over 50 years of Motorcycling experience, and I have done all my own servicing on it,
Seems to me if I had a brand new Interceptor i still wouldn't spend a penny on it if it was under warranty ❓
But each to his own,
Couldn't you have used Q-tips to get the grease out, progressing to de-greaser spray ❓
Cheers Paul 👍
Hi Paul, happy to hear your Interceptor has been good to you. Hopefully mine will be now too.
For me the wait to get in at my local dealership is on average 3-4 weeks, once it’s in there I’ve then got to wait for them to diagnose it (if they can) and finally wait for parts. This is a cheap fix so personally it’s a no brainer for me to do the job myself.
If the bike had a more serious/expensive issue I would 100% be letting the dealership look at it.
Yeah Q-tips might work, providing they are small enough to fit into the female connection. Whatever you can get your hands on to get the job done.
Thanks for dropping a comment 👍🏻
What year is your Interceptor? Thanks. Yes, changed my relays as you have done after seemingly unrelated issues. Never an issue since. Mine is a 22. Surprised it is still happening.
Bit of a weird one my bike. So I bought it as a brand new bike, unregistered and in its crate still, obviously with zero miles on it. When I bought it, it got registered to me as the first owner on a ‘24’ plate but the bike was actually manufactured in 2022. I still got the 3 years warranty and a LOT of money off the price
Let's hope you don't have the rectifier problem that some have experienced 😉
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@@j.brocky Thanks and that makes sense. Don't worry it is a 22. You got a deal I am sure. My query was if you had a 24 and there were still all the issues of a few years ago as I believe RE have made changes to the relays themselves -- though the grease is the same. Enjoy your ride. They are really reliable bikes. 13,000 miles and my Interceptor sings.
@ yeah I love the bike. It has real character. Happy to hear yours has been good to you.
Cotton buds would help to clean it as well.
That’s a great idea Brian
Great video Jack...Do u know if this issue applies to the other 650s?
I’m not sure to be honest. I’ve heard of people having this issue on the Himalayan so maybe
Wonder if its the same on the Hunter 350?
I’m not sure, possibly. I know some of the other models are the same
Jack as a mechanic what do you think of owning a new bike that is required to have the valve clearances checked at 300miles? I assume you are not a motorcycle mechanic?
It’s not the best is it. I was shocked when O found this out (after buying the bike!). Yeah trained as a car mechanic. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment
They are simple old fashioned screw and locknut tappets. we have got used to modern bikes having shims and buckets and high tolerances.
The check is just a safety measure as they bed in a bit more than shims do.
Some just need checking others may need a tweak to get the correct gaps but once done are generally fine. It's just that initial few hundred miles.
It takes minutes to do hardest part is getting the tank and cover off.
Back in the day we used to have to "run in" cars and bikes at say 50 mph for some time to allow all the components to "bed in" and this is what you are checking them for. We used to get running in stickers for the back window of a new car "running in please pass" so that following traffic understood why you were going slow.
Same with the filters it's not really necessary it's more a "just in case" type thing.
Is it only happening to the Int 650 or other model as well ?
I’ve heard people having issues with the classic 350. I’d imagine it’s all of the models, this must be a standard practice for the installers at the factory. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Enfield relays either die it a matter of days or last for years . Don't know why. Carrying a few spares with you is advised
Great idea Roger, I’ve kept hold of the ones I took out
Anyone know if the oem relays are defective, or if the method of relay installation at time of manufacture is the culprit? I bet that used Triumph is looking pretty good now. :)
I’ve heard mixed stuff on here in the comments. Some saying it’s just the grease that’s the problem, others saying they cleaned out the grease and the fault was actually with the relays. I’m hoping this is the end of my bikes issues, for now at least! Triumph one day hopefully 🤞🏻
does it void any warranty??
I wouldn’t have thought so, but if you do need to take your bike back to the dealer with a warranty claim just refit your old relays for when it goes back in.
Hey Jack , this is sakeeb from india , i got my INT 650 this jan
Recently i felt that the front brake leaver is tightened a bit and i am getting a small feedback from the brake when ever i press the lever.
could you tell me what might be wrong ? should i see a mechanic near me ?
Hey Sakeeb. It could possibly be the front brake disc is warped. It’s difficult to say for sure without seeing the bike. Is it still under warranty?
@@j.brocky yes it is
@@sakeeb5866 take it back to the dealership. They will sort it for you under warranty 👍🏻
this fault has been around for a long time so why has it not been fixed at the factory?
I believe so, I honestly can’t answer that. It needs sorting though
Güzel içerik, tebrikler. Bakım ve diğer şeyler üzerinede video gelmeli bu motosikletten almayı düşünüyorum :)
Thanks you, glad you enjoyed it. They are a great little bike, get one bought 😊
my new himalan 411, with 5000 km, is almost dead as well, making very stange noises...
Has it ever been serviced? The 300 mile one is important. The valve clearances must be checked.
This problem is the same on ALL RE released after 2020(since the new J engine is out). A friend bought a Super Meteor three month ago, same glue white stuff in relays an the dealer had no idea about it! So we can imagine they don't read RE notices OR RE don't tell them?. What a shame for RE, trying to save money on that and create a problem themself. Saving bikes from sea salt is very nice but make it run on the road will be nicer...
It’s not the best is it. I’ve got a feeling every plug on the bike is going to be filled with this stuff too! I don’t want to look 🫣
Thanks for your comment
I noticed the new relay has an extra pin ,is that of any significance?
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍🏻
@JackBrock-YT thanks, I've the same colour scheme, had it a year now,today she cut out just the once,started straight away with a slow bump start,next job on list is this grease clean up.will give your channel a follow, hope to get one back, York biker.
@ it’s the best colour 😉. Thanks for the follow. I’ve just subscribed to your channel. Yeah give it a go. Fingers crossed it fixes it for you. Let me know how you get on
Euro 4 vEuro 5 is the difference
What part of Manchester are you from?
Ove done 40.000 km on mine without a hitch including a 25,000km trip around Ozz. 👍🏍😊
That’s good to know Mark, I’m not far from Worsley. More Salford than Manchester to be honest. Thanks for the comment
interesting, why did you take out a 4 pin relay and replace it with a 5 pin when 4 pin relays tend to be more stable and reliable, I think the earlier bikes had 5 pin relays that failed
Great spot! As soon as I posted this video I realised I never mentioned that these are 5 pin relays. The 5th pin is obviously redundant on the Interceptor (no wire to the plug/pin) as there is no secondary circuit to link up to, just one primary circuit per relay. I literally ordered the 5 pin because I could get it the next day. I’ve never heard of 4 pin relays being more stable than 5 pin ones before. As long as the amps are the same it will be fine running 5 pins. All I can say is since doing this my bike is running sweet and it doesn’t cut out every 5 minutes now! 🤣
All the new RE relays are now 4 pin but my 2020 inty was 5 pin have replaced with new all good….4 or 5 pin not a problem 👍
@@TwoLaneRides neither is wrong just wondered why he used 5 pin a good quality relay should be reliable either way
obrigado pela dica
No worries 😉
nice i do this every 6 months
Thanks 🙏🏻
What seems to be a relay issue is often fuel contamination because of the recessed cap.
I will have to keep an eye on that 👍🏻
It’s the job of the dealers to clean the contacts before Pre Delivery Inspection..
I couldn’t agree more with you on that Harish 💯
TOP ! Brasil
Thank you 👍🏻
I'm not a mechanic but I would disconnect the battery first if I was to do this .
That’s totally up to you. I’ve never disconnected a battery to remove a relay. If the bike was running I wouldn’t advise it but with the ignition switched off it won’t do any harm.
dealers should be doing that under warranty
Yeah they should really but for how long it takes to do, it’s not worth waiting weeks to get it in at the dealership.
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Thanks 🙏🏻
I find it shocking that RE are still having Interceptor problems caused by crappy relays. I bought one of the first Interceptors in the country back in 2019. Within 50 miles mine started playing up. The cause ?.....rubbish relays. Changed them for decent automotive replacements..no further trouble!
I’ve definitely got more confidence in these Bosch relays than the cheap nasty ones that were fitted
use cue tips ?
Yes you could do. Whatever works best for you.
Are you kidding me! RE are still having this issue 😮 this shit was going on a few years ago when I had my meteor 🤷🏻♂️
@@kevindarkstar did you have a lot of problems with your meteor or was it generally reliable?
@JackBrock-YT oh no, it was 100% reliable over 15 months and over 9000 miles. But I recall all this grease talk and the problems with the Intercepter even back then 😉
...and thats why you buy Japanese. The looks of the indian bikes will wear thin if this is the QC standards.
It’s part of their character and charm 😊
Common fault
I believe so
Is this lithium grease applied in India? If yes, this means there are out there many non reliable RE bikes waiting to stop working because of this issue. Good to know, I will never buy one.
I believe so. It’s all good now 😊
😂😂😂 Famed RE reliability
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What did you expect. To last a lifetime without any trouble.its not a Honda.
No not at all mate. Just wanted it to last longer than a 20 minute ride 🤣 It’s all sorted now anyway 👍🏻
Sorry but I could never buy an RE
They aren’t that bad. Hopefully this will be my only issue with the bike 🤞🏻
@@j.brockyexpect plenty. Reg/rec , coils, to name a couple. I've had them all and some unique
@ thanks for the heads up Andrew 👍🏻
when you put does relais in a new bike ..... bye bye warenty
If it ever needs any warranty work I will just refit the old relays before I take it back to the dealership, they will be none the wiser 👍🏻
The British are amazing. They proved in the sixties that they were not capable of designing or building reliable motorcycles. Now 60 years later the British are designing motorcycles again. The only improvement is that they are built in India. This Brit prefers the warranty of a new motorcycle and buys it. When it fails he repairs it himself and make his three years warranty invalid. Brexit is no longer a mystery. Craziness has ruled those islands for many, many years. Rule, Britannia! Britannia rules the fools.
Thanks for your comment. I don’t think I’ve made my warranty invalid by replacing three relays. If I ever have any issues with the bike that requires me to make a warranty claim, I will fit the old relays before taking the bike back to the dealer. They will be none the wiser, unless they watch this video 🤣
Racist Idiot
This is why you don’t buy this inferior rubbish, underpowered , cheap parts and styling dubious.
Each to their own I guess. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍🏻
Being riding bikes since the 80s....never had a bad bike from the shop until my latest buy. Speedo cable came off, tyres not properly pressured and a few other small problems....all due to LAZY mechanic......NEVER goes to the shop again, ever!
Sounds like you had a nightmare there Googel. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope you’ve found a better mechanic to maintain your bike, or better still you are doing it yourself 🔧👍🏻