Oh wow, this means a lot 🥹 so as a film director, you'd also understand that quite a few people were involved in the making, we can't take all the credit! Haha-gonna pass this nice message on to our videographer and editor-couldn't have done it without them 🥲
I've been using Apple notes for so long but always felt like there should be something better. Seems like everyone these days is building a TODO app, so there is so much noise. Thanks for this vid breaking it down!
Awe, thanks Jason! We're feeling the same way, but also feel a bit stuck with it as well. Apple is trying to bake in AI into the next iOS as is Google for Google Keep, trying to make these tools more powerful. It's interesting, but conflicting, because it also feels like Apple isn't paying enough attention to Apple Notes and the same with Google for Keep. Constantly feeling like "there's gotta be a better way", and yet we're left still feeling a bit torn, especially for the personal usage aspect to TODO's and Notes. The app with the lowest friction for creating on your phone, is probably the one that'll get the most usage by most people. The equation really only changes once you start looking at it from a business/team perspective, which is where Apple Notes + Keep completely fall apart. This is probably the most competitive space out there, it's literally the "hello world" for creating an app as a new engineer: "create Todo list app" so I think we're still at the beginning 😆
Actually, Motion is only the answer for Project Management and Daily Planner. Calendar and To-Do List apps just overlap Daily planning, because what is daily planning? Calendar + To-Do List. Motion has a calendar scheduler, and is that our top pick for calendar scheduling? Nope. They just happen to do a few things well and are the tool of choice we use for those categories. Understood if it's not right for you, feel free to check out our other videos and site as we recommend TONS of other software: efficient.app This is what happens when you're a business channel talking to businesses-you shouldn't be using one calendar app, another task management app, and another project management app, if a single tool can check all those boxes. So we're authentically staying at the end of the video, what we're using for our team, while talking about other apps that one might consider if they only want one focused on that category solely. These categories just overlap so heavily that you're hearing that recommendation across them, which makes sense... No?
Awe, this means a lot 🙏 yeah, we're putting a LOT in, have been for quite a bit now-means a lot that some are starting to see! Will keep with the quality! Super curious, were you looking for a new To-Do List app and you found us? Or it just happened to be recommended to you and you checked it out?
Ah, so happy to hear! And are you referring to Motion? If so, that's exactly what it does! Every day, any tasks you don't get to, automatically move to the next day on your calendar/agenda. We used to spend 20 mins per day using Asana changing deadlines and moving tasks around, but with Motion it's automatic. That said, if you haven't yet signed up, if you use this link: efficient.link/r/motion then you'll actually lock in our paid Motion course for free where you can see how we set up our account. You can claim the course here after using the link to sign up with it, just make sure you use our link or it won't lock in: efficient.deals/motion Curious to hear how that works for you!
I use Tana for quick daily notes, but I'm curious if Motion offers something similar. Do you have experience with note-taking in Motion? If so, any tips? Thanks.
Good to see you again my friend! So Motion sorta has notes (tasks and projects have a dedicated notes section), but it's definitely not a note taking tool first and foremost. For that we personally use Slite at the moment: efficient.app/apps/slite That said, the team has mentioned that they want to improve notes more in time (right now I wouldn't say Motion is an alternative to a proper knowledge base tool, maybe one day). But yeah, you're probably in a good position with Tana at the moment if you're just using it for quick daily notes. Motion can be considered more when you get more into the needs of task management and daily planning/project management. If that makes sense? I for one am hoping that one day it could be consolidated in Motion, but also don't want them to rush because they are really doing something special in the task/project management space ATM and don't want them to get sidetracked as IMHO doing note taking well is more involved than it might seem haha
I absolutely agree, I was thinking more of a hack rather than a feature. For example, some recurring task where I can write some daily notes... just thinking out loud... I understand that it's not the focus and I wouldn't expect it from Motion right now, but it would be great if I could eliminate another tool 😂 But the project management features that have come out recently are great... even though I still use Motion solo, it helps me organize my work tremendously... I created OKRs, added tasks and duration, and now I basically have autopilot and can focus on goals rather than thinking about what to do when. It would be great if Gantt worked for tasks as well, not just for projects, but hopefully that will come too.
Ooh okay, being open to hacky solutions is interesting 🧐 hahaha it's a clever idea (re: using a recurring task). I'd probably recommend just holding tight a bit longer, as I'm with you on that, I'm personally using Superlist for misc notes here and there, but feel like we're close to being able to just use Motion for all of those things. The truth of the matter is that Motion needs a better text editor UX before I'd genuinely consider it for that-it has a bit of work needed, but they have said they are planning on it. Regarding viewing tasks in Gantt view, I'd actually be curious how you'd envision getting the most use from that? We had that with Asana, but realizing with Motion that tasks are more short spurts of work, so to view it based on time, it'll always be less than 1 day, which would make it a bit odd to see in Gantt view. Wondering if you'd maybe be better off using projects more often if you're feeling that you want to visualize the work in more of a timeline view? Would be curious how you'd envision that working though, I had the same thought and gave feedback to their team, to which they sorta asked "why" and I didn't have a great answer, since seeing every single task in Gantt view would be a bit overwhelming and not sure how truly useful it'd be. Curious to hear your thoughts though?
I see your point about the Gantt view challenges. Here's why I'm interested in it: My tasks have become larger and more strategic lately, with longer durations and many interdependencies (thx to project featueres). I'd like to see how they relate to each other and affect the overall project timeline. A Gantt view for these tasks could help identify bottlenecks that aren't obvious in the current list view. I understand it's complex to implement, especially with auto-scheduling. Just an idea for the long-term. Thanks for considering it!
Ah, interesting! And totally makes sense-so, wondering if maybe "Project Stages" could help in this case? Like with Flows, there are stages, with tasks within the stages, and then with our most recent community post, you can actually see the project stages as little dots in the Gantt Chart view, so you can see what stages are taking the longest (e.g. what groups of tasks are slowing a project down, almost like little milestones if you will). Wondering if that might help solve the issue you're referring to potentially? Essentially giving further visibility into a project from the grouping of tasks (stages)? We've seen that to be a big unlock for us, comes out of the box with Flows. P.S. I know you said thanks for considering it, but we actually don't have any influence over Motion haha you can write to support to give feedback, that'd be your best bet. Next time I'm on a feedback call or something with them though, happy to share what you shared though! Just no idea when that'd be haha
Totally, I still find myself using Keep as a scratchpad at times to just get something saved somewhere quickly on the go. I feel like Google Keep actually has a lot of potential especially with the deep Gemini integration coming, but the biggest downfall is just that Google doesn't care about Keep as much as these other apps care about their tool. Constantly baffling to me. But yeah, my Keep is a complete and total mess, but it's where I have my glasses prescription for some reason, very odd things 😂
Appreciate that Jessica! Awe, this is what motivates us to keep things going 🙏 Curious which Todo app you're leaning on/using and for what use-case (don't worry, there's no judgements, just curious!)
Dropped Apple “Notes” a few times but didn’t bring up the actual Apple todo app Reminders. The iOS 18 version has big upgrades. It’s Apple ecosystem only tho.
Fair point, people often associate "Apple Notes" as being both Notes and Reminders. The title was cleaner this way, but the video still stands, use these apps instead of Apple Reminders (as well) 😁 Have you tried any of the task management apps mentioned in the video?
Amazing content, just exact what I was looking for! Thank you so much for robust and clean review! It we consider only free plans for 5 people cooperation, would you choose superlist or ticktick and why? Thanks!
Oh boy... When you say 5 people, are you referring to family members? Or is this for a company? If the latter, I don't think we can recommend either 😅 If it's for family, then we'd say give Superlist a shot: efficient.deals/superlist TickTick starts getting quite limited when using it with others and will quickly try getting you onto paid tiers. Pretty sure you can't even share tasks with more than 2 people without paying on TickTick.
How do you like the Clicky keyboard case on your iPhone? Been considering one curious to know if it helps with productivity and worth price and extra weight
I love it! There is definitely a learning curve though, don't expect to pick it up and type super fast. It took me about 6 weeks of practice to get comfortable with it. You can easily switch between the keyboard and glass as you're learning. The weight hasn't bothered me at all. I just love the tactile nature of the keys, and also it's a great conversation starter as everyone is so curious about it. You can also set up a ton of keyboard shortcuts for productivity (as long as you invest the time upfront for setup). Their new commercial does a good job at showing off some examples (look it up on their RUclips channel!).
Ayyy! Thanks Dan 🙏 yes! We've been hard at work on a full rebrand, may or may not be a sneak peek for what's to come on our new site design, full rebuild from the ground up for efficient.app (coming soon) 😉 Appreciate your comment, means a lot our new friend!
When talking about Todoist, you complain that "there are too many options when wanting to add a task". But then when reviewing Motion, which shows even more options in the "add task" form, that's suddenly not a complaint anymore. That is a bit contradictory, don't you think?
You are correct, there is some context that our editor cut out of the final video because it slowed things down too much, but I understand what you are saying. Adding context: In the video, I mentioned when I first started looking for a task app it was 2020 and I just wanted something super basic (aka why I used TickTick because I was looking for something more for personal use, barely any work tasks). The tasks that I used TickTick for were things like “Groceries” or “Get paperwork ready for accountant, etc”. Todoist was too much for this use case. When I started working in this business (Efficient App), we actually used Asana for project management and I continued to use TickTick for personal tasks. That said, when we started using Motion for business, I started managing both work and personal tasks in there as it was robust enough to handle both needs. Todoist + TickTick + Superlist fit better into the personal to do app category while Motion fits better in the work + personal app category. Totally understand this wasn’t 100% clear, will do better next time!
Hey, I jsut signed up but accedientally seemed to have clicked the wrong link. I've made a request with support but wanted to make sure you got credit after this fantastic video. I'm also curious what the course has to offer. Please let me know if there is anything I should do besides reaching out to a live agent. Thanks
Ah, assuming you're referring to the Motion course? efficient.deals/motion You can see what the course offers here, we're just finishing up on the landing page for it: efficient.link/courses/motion We can check if you used our link or not if you want to respond to the email you get when you fill out your email on the efficient.deals/motion page though!
Just subscribed - good quality video. I'm a team of one, looking after multiple clients. For each client need a client specific project (and potentially subprojects) and tasks, be able to invite client team to collaborate on that project, assign tasks etc. Don't specifically need access to client calendars, just my own. Motion good for this?
Awe thanks! Okay, so to everything you said... Yes-UNTIL-you mentioned inviting client teams to collaborate on that project. Motion doesn't yet allow for inviting guests, and while it's sure to come in the future, a few thoughts on this point as I was in the same boat as you when I first started using Motion. In client services, getting a client in your actual project management tool gets super messy, super quickly. You need to be super careful about what you say/do, visibility options become critical so clients can't see other client work, etc. you need to over-engineer a lot and think more about every word you put into your PM tool. Our recommendation is to pick a PM tool for yourself and your team that you'll have the most success with, and instead use a tool for communication with the client, sharing only updates as needed. Whether that's a mixture of a help desk + Loom, Slack + Loom, or a shared documentation tool like Slite/Notion for just sharing updates and notes. Getting clients too deep in the weeds on each task is setting you up to 1) get micro-managed, and 2) inundate them with too much information and fine details, that they actually get fatigued. Don't make an internal PM decision for proposed external client needs. Your best bet is to just give Motion a shot to see if it solves your problems in a way that works for you since they are innovating a lot in this space. Otherwise you could fall back to a different tool that does all of this in one, but again, huge warnings about trying to get your clients into your PM tool. We've been in this space for over a decade and... It doesn't work. Be sure to grab the course if you do give it a shot! efficient.deals/motion But yeah, we'd recommend Motion + Slite, here's some free credit for the latter: efficient.deals/slite - also, as someone that is hiring a lot of contractors (essentially teams like you), believe me in saying, I do not want access to your PM tool, I'm not going to check it, you're overwhelming me, either use mine or communicate in something like Slack/Email/a shared doc.
Ayyy, amazing! Welcome to the fam! P.S. Be sure to use this link to sign up: efficient.link/r/motion and then claim the deal here: efficient.deals/motion If you do that then you'll get our Motion course for free: efficient.link/courses/motion
We didn't include Things3 because we're primarily a B2B and prosumer-focused channel, so all of the apps that were mentioned not only work with teams, but also work cross-platform. The fact that Things3 is an Apple device-only app, pretty much makes it a non-starter for teams. We feel there's more than enough "individual productivity" channels on RUclips, so there's no shortage of videos talking about Things3, yet there's not much content talking about software as it pertains to teams and businesses-that's our expertise and skillset! ToDo List apps, while inherently more "individual", don't have to be. Like the apps mentioned in the video, they can start as individual and move to team and business usage. As an individual, I've been tempted by Things3 for many years now, but the point is, it'll never be the best solution for teams and business, therefore it doesn't make sense to cover it as a core contender in this space. Totally understand the confusion though-you'll see that calendar + todo apps are quite literally the only category we've covered which toes the line into individuals/productivity. We were wary of even creating a video on this topic for exactly this reason. Our channel and content is meant for teams and businesses, if that makes sense?
Motion has meeting & task reminders on desktop, sounds like mobile notifications is on the roadmap! Morgen is great for personal use/tasks, just not as robust for layered work related tasks as Motion. But if you have simple tasks, it totally works! We actually covered our thoughts about Morgen in this video if you want to check it out: efficient.link/yt/calendar
Microsoft To Do for me - free, simple, and the notifications stay there until you deal with it (many others only appear for a little while so easy to miss)
@@efficientapp I completely agree. In my case, I use the TickTick app for all my quick captures and reminders, while my notes are organized in Obsidian. Since collaboration isn't a priority for me, I stick with TickTick due to its constant reminder feature.
TickTick has really nice time scheduling now. Tasks and calendar up on the screen at the same time where you can drag your tasks and reschedule them. You can essentially achieve the same functionality Akiflow gives you (though Akilow is overall better, but more expensive and lacks habits). Less than half the cost of Akiflow.
For personal tasks, TickTick is great, but for business it’s quite lackluster (and if you’re a business, software that makes you more efficient is worth the cost). For business, we don’t recommend optimizing for cost, we recommend optimizing for efficiency, enjoyment, the best software you enjoy using the most.
I tried that for a few years and it was quite overwhelming. I also found that I actually liked having personal and work separated a bit, because otherwise I was going into Asana at the time for personal tasks, and then feeling like I was in work mode all of a sudden. You can give it a try, I just wouldn't recommend it, and there are some good personal solutions as mentioned in the video, or even our daily planner/calendar video goes into some others: efficient.link/yt/calendar + efficient.link/yt/planner But yeah, Asana "technically" could work personally, it just wasn't built for that and you're going to feel like you're in business software when using it for personal usage is all.
Excellent warning on Notion and the "templates" that others are promoting. What a rabbit trail / red herring. Who wants work to determine how to do their work? Nuts!. Every template boils down to how someone else digested their tasks for them. We all need underwear, but I certainly don't want someone elses'. Thanks again for the great video. Motion sounds intriguing but most collab software falls apart when working for a corporation with strict security policies. This is why I carve out key functions between work and. personal with regard to tools.
Haha exactly! Every template is someone's unique perspective on how to get work done, for them. It hasn't been tested on the millions of users and customers that competing project management/task management tools are, so every template is missing invaluable user feedback at scale. Not even to mention that Notion was not built for tasks/project management at a core, so it'll never actually handle it well (unless they totally rebuild and rearchitect their database/infrastructure, which isn't going to happen). Fair point regarding a corporation with strict security policies, though you could pitch it to the IT department probably since Motion is SOC2 compliant and has all the most important security measures required for businesses. I hear ya though, it's tough!
Good guess, but no. Motion had no idea we were making this video, wondering if they are even aware of it now. We were not compensated in any way for any of the apps mentioned in the video, though if you do sign up for any of them with any of our affiliate links, we will get a small kickback, whether you give Superlist, Todoist, Notion or Motion a shot, so why not try them all? 🤷♂️
@efficientapp omg, women on RUclips were documenting their day planner obsessions, not sure if it's still a thing or not but it was very... Idk it seemed like a lot of lonely housewives going overboard :-/
I think you guys should try doing personal reviews. Don't know about your public in general , but personal and team management needs are very different.
Our channel is focused on business, professionals, and teams. There's no shortage of general personal productivity-focused channels, where things are unique for us is that we've been consulting teams of all sizes on their software stack for over a decade now. So we're not really planning on going the personal path with our channel. Hope you can understand 🙏
No love for Cultured Code Things? Of all the to-do list apps I've tried, it is far and away the best. The only thing missing is auto-scheduling, which is why I use Motion for work. But it has the best user-interface, syncing, offline support (a huge must). I guess the only other downside is the cost.
It's not that we have no love toward Things, but rather we're focusing our criteria more on To-Do List Apps that have the potential of working with teams. Things only works on iOS and macOS (Apple only), which doesn't lead it to the criteria we were covering based on. We focused on the most popular ones that we have used quite intimately. I've personally tried Things (on macOS) myself over the years, but as I have an Android device, it didn't lend itself to being a scalable option since out of the box, both Andra and myself cannot use it together. Everything reviewed has a business/team tier and that was the main focus of the video. The only exception being TickTick, but the point of calling out TickTick was that we both not only used it, but we find that people were often getting confused by the fact that MKBHD uses it and talks about it (for personal usage). If you've seen the rest of the videos on our channel, we're approaching tools on a business/team level, there's no shortage of other channels focusing on just sheer individual productivity. We aren't all that confident that true productivity comes from an app for individuals and our expertise stems in business consulting and team collaboration, if that makes sense?
Mentioned it to one other in here. We're primarily a B2B software review/comparison channel, so we focus on reviewing tools that were built for, and can be used in business. While we spoke about TickTick, it was solely because many have confused it as a B2B task management tool since MKBHD has been vocal about using it. He uses it for personal, not business though. The rest of the tools mentioned are squarely targeting businesses and teams right now, so that's why we wanted to cover them. Personal todo list apps are far less exciting and there's far too many of them.
@@efficientapp i appreciate the clarification, but if the main point of reviewing for any audience is to show the "best" solution for the best price, wouldn't it matter less how theyre marketed? also, can there really be a one size fits all solution in this category for businesses when they all operate differently from each other?
It's not about how they're marketed, it's about if they can actually work for businesses or not. Some software was not built for teams and actual business use-cases, that's where our expertise is and what we're focusing our content on. If you look at our other content, it's quite squarely focused on business use-cases, it's just that Todo list apps are sometimes used by businesses and individuals in teams, when in reality they need a more business/team-friendly solution. Businesses have different needs, yes, but the point is, at a foundation, is the software built for business use-cases or not? And some just aren't, so that's what we're effectively calling out. There's no shortage of individual productivity-focused channels on RUclips. We're just focusing our efforts on businesses is all so that's the lens that our comparisons are geared toward. Not sure how else to put it, it's not about what the software says they do or who they are for, it's based on what we think it's best for, and some of these are not good for business/team usage.
I have to agree with this comment. I also laughed when describing Todoist as too cumbersome. Todoist's Quick Add feature is one of the best in the business and you don't have to use all the options it gives you access to. It's the one task management I can use w/o thinking about the app itself. Granted, they have a way to go on their Calendar feature but are making rapid progress in that area. Lastly, knocking Todoist for tagging their paid features is silly. When doing a review, use a paid for version so you're truly reviewing the actual capabilities of the software.
@@efficientapp I like to write down the 3 most important tasks in my day. If I finish them, I get a reward that I've chosen for that day. For example, today if I finish my tasks, I will watch a film. This keeps me motivated and makes the work feel more rewarding. 🙂 In the past, I had a very complex system. I was using Todoist for planning normal tasks and then making them dependent on each day. I was also tracking my projects and tasks using Notion. I was focusing so much on the future and practicing time-boxing, which was all good, but it wasn't working for me. It made me feel like I was doing something, but I wasn't really making progress on the big things that would truly advance my studies and business. What works for me now is that every day, I wake up, drink water, and write down the most important tasks. I make them rewarding at the end of the day. This simple approach helps me focus on the big things that really matter, rather than getting bogged down in a complex system.
We use Motion 🤷🏼♀️ It’s as authentic as it gets, there are enough channels that will try to be neutral and recommend every software and say “at the end of the day, try them all and see what’s best for you” and we’re not that channel. You’re going to find opinions here and many people appreciate that guidance. Totally understand if we’re not for you!
Totally understand! Motion is more for businesses, so if you're just looking to use it for personal use, we can understand that it feels too expensive. As the saying goes, "if it aint' broke, don't fix it" so if you love Todoist, then no reason to try something new 🙌
Oh wow, I mean even at 10 that's a pretty sizable team for Todoist. Think you might be better off with a more proper PM tool by that point, but totally understand wanting to try making it work! Todoist doesn't let you really handle projects, dependencies, or reporting, for which is usually quite important for a team that size.
Apple notes is NOT a task app. Can you use it that way sure, but calling it a task app is just not what Apple even intended. That is what Apple Reminders is for. You’re also confusing the difference between corporate and personal needs and task apps and planner apps which can be very different. Also, I’ve tried Superlist and I don’t think it’s as good as Todoist. Motion is expensive and is really for corporate/business use, and the fact that your running a business means you’re probably deducting the monthly cost off your taxes. That’s important for people to understand.
While fair, the point is, most people, sadly, use Apple Notes for their To-Do List, instead of a proper task app, hence why we're calling that out. Apple Reminders is more like a super barbones task app, and there are many other, better, free options available. It's still that people default to using Apple Notes for notes and tasks quickly though. Also, our channel is more focused on business/prosumer, also believe it or not, but many of our friends are business owners and founders, and they too will pull open Apple Notes to write down some quick notes/to-dos. Understand that you've had more success with Todoist, as we mentioned in the video, with Superlist, we leveraged it more for a mixture of notes and tasks intertwined. I wouldn't say Todoist or Superlist are one better than the other, but rather different approaches at a similar thing. Motion is only expensive if you aren't using it for any high value tasks. It's also not just for business use, they actually seem to have many students as customers and individuals, in addition to businesses, but fair point in that a business is probably more likely to be open to investing in a proper solution than an individual. Again, it all comes down to how high value the tasks are that you're using the app for as Motion does do additional things that will help you save time. Also, being a business doesn't just make tools "free" because you can "deduct it from your taxes". You still need to pay for it, and have the business making money to pay for the software. It's just that it's technically pre-tax based on business income, so you don't have to pay for the software on after-tax money, so you're maybe saving 20% of the price of the software paying through the business versus personally based on income effectively. Either way, it's quite menial, the point is you're still paying and either you're getting value from it and it's saving you time and thus worthwhile (personal or business), or it isn't. That is the more important discernment to have when considering purchasing one of these apps.
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Big lies about Todoist. I'll just block this channel. Not reliable and slave to money probably.
@@efficientapp here's not a lie, but a blatant inconsistency. You say that there's too many options when wanting to add a task to Todoist. But then go to review Motion, and do not mention the same, when Motion has even more options in the "add task" UI. It suggests that you may be biased towards one tool over the other.
You already commented this same thing on this video and we took the time to respond to you, but will copy/paste it here again: You are correct, there is some context that our editor cut out of the final video because it slowed things down too much, but I understand what you are saying. Adding context: In the video, I mentioned when I first started looking for a task app it was 2020 and I just wanted something super basic (aka why I used TickTick because I was looking for something more for personal use, barely any work tasks). The tasks that I used TickTick for were things like “Groceries” or “Get paperwork ready for accountant, etc”. Todoist was too much for this use case. When I started working in this business (Efficient App), we actually used Asana for project management and I continued to use TickTick for personal tasks. That said, when we started using Motion for business, I started managing both work and personal tasks in there as it was robust enough to handle both needs. Todoist + TickTick + Superlist fit better into the personal to do app category while Motion fits better in the work + personal app category. Totally understand this wasn’t 100% clear, will do better next time!
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Listen as a Film director and DP I am a HUGE fan of your lighting, editing, audio etc! Great video!
Oh wow, this means a lot 🥹 so as a film director, you'd also understand that quite a few people were involved in the making, we can't take all the credit! Haha-gonna pass this nice message on to our videographer and editor-couldn't have done it without them 🥲
I've been using Apple notes for so long but always felt like there should be something better. Seems like everyone these days is building a TODO app, so there is so much noise. Thanks for this vid breaking it down!
Awe, thanks Jason! We're feeling the same way, but also feel a bit stuck with it as well. Apple is trying to bake in AI into the next iOS as is Google for Google Keep, trying to make these tools more powerful. It's interesting, but conflicting, because it also feels like Apple isn't paying enough attention to Apple Notes and the same with Google for Keep.
Constantly feeling like "there's gotta be a better way", and yet we're left still feeling a bit torn, especially for the personal usage aspect to TODO's and Notes. The app with the lowest friction for creating on your phone, is probably the one that'll get the most usage by most people.
The equation really only changes once you start looking at it from a business/team perspective, which is where Apple Notes + Keep completely fall apart.
This is probably the most competitive space out there, it's literally the "hello world" for creating an app as a new engineer: "create Todo list app" so I think we're still at the beginning 😆
You guys truly make the best software reviews ever
This means a lot to us 🙏 appreciate your comment so much 🥲
Actually, Motion is only the answer for Project Management and Daily Planner. Calendar and To-Do List apps just overlap Daily planning, because what is daily planning? Calendar + To-Do List. Motion has a calendar scheduler, and is that our top pick for calendar scheduling? Nope. They just happen to do a few things well and are the tool of choice we use for those categories.
Understood if it's not right for you, feel free to check out our other videos and site as we recommend TONS of other software: efficient.app
This is what happens when you're a business channel talking to businesses-you shouldn't be using one calendar app, another task management app, and another project management app, if a single tool can check all those boxes. So we're authentically staying at the end of the video, what we're using for our team, while talking about other apps that one might consider if they only want one focused on that category solely.
These categories just overlap so heavily that you're hearing that recommendation across them, which makes sense... No?
I was NOT expecting this quality from a video with 1700 views and from a relativly small channel, kepp it up!
Awe, this means a lot 🙏 yeah, we're putting a LOT in, have been for quite a bit now-means a lot that some are starting to see! Will keep with the quality! Super curious, were you looking for a new To-Do List app and you found us? Or it just happened to be recommended to you and you checked it out?
@@efficientapp just popped up on the home page as a surprise
Ayyyy, that's amazing to hear! Thank you RUclips Gods 🙏 and appreciate you being here our new friend!
Love that you put Alex Hormozi on the "inspiration" part!
Hah, glad to hear you liked the intro build-up, had a lot of fun making it, and Alex's clip is great!
I love your vedio! One question, can the unfinished tasks ne automatically roll to next day? Thanks
Ah, so happy to hear! And are you referring to Motion? If so, that's exactly what it does! Every day, any tasks you don't get to, automatically move to the next day on your calendar/agenda. We used to spend 20 mins per day using Asana changing deadlines and moving tasks around, but with Motion it's automatic. That said, if you haven't yet signed up, if you use this link: efficient.link/r/motion then you'll actually lock in our paid Motion course for free where you can see how we set up our account. You can claim the course here after using the link to sign up with it, just make sure you use our link or it won't lock in: efficient.deals/motion
Curious to hear how that works for you!
I use Tana for quick daily notes, but I'm curious if Motion offers something similar. Do you have experience with note-taking in Motion? If so, any tips? Thanks.
Good to see you again my friend! So Motion sorta has notes (tasks and projects have a dedicated notes section), but it's definitely not a note taking tool first and foremost. For that we personally use Slite at the moment: efficient.app/apps/slite
That said, the team has mentioned that they want to improve notes more in time (right now I wouldn't say Motion is an alternative to a proper knowledge base tool, maybe one day). But yeah, you're probably in a good position with Tana at the moment if you're just using it for quick daily notes. Motion can be considered more when you get more into the needs of task management and daily planning/project management. If that makes sense?
I for one am hoping that one day it could be consolidated in Motion, but also don't want them to rush because they are really doing something special in the task/project management space ATM and don't want them to get sidetracked as IMHO doing note taking well is more involved than it might seem haha
I absolutely agree, I was thinking more of a hack rather than a feature. For example, some recurring task where I can write some daily notes... just thinking out loud... I understand that it's not the focus and I wouldn't expect it from Motion right now, but it would be great if I could eliminate another tool 😂
But the project management features that have come out recently are great... even though I still use Motion solo, it helps me organize my work tremendously... I created OKRs, added tasks and duration, and now I basically have autopilot and can focus on goals rather than thinking about what to do when.
It would be great if Gantt worked for tasks as well, not just for projects, but hopefully that will come too.
Ooh okay, being open to hacky solutions is interesting 🧐 hahaha it's a clever idea (re: using a recurring task).
I'd probably recommend just holding tight a bit longer, as I'm with you on that, I'm personally using Superlist for misc notes here and there, but feel like we're close to being able to just use Motion for all of those things.
The truth of the matter is that Motion needs a better text editor UX before I'd genuinely consider it for that-it has a bit of work needed, but they have said they are planning on it.
Regarding viewing tasks in Gantt view, I'd actually be curious how you'd envision getting the most use from that? We had that with Asana, but realizing with Motion that tasks are more short spurts of work, so to view it based on time, it'll always be less than 1 day, which would make it a bit odd to see in Gantt view. Wondering if you'd maybe be better off using projects more often if you're feeling that you want to visualize the work in more of a timeline view?
Would be curious how you'd envision that working though, I had the same thought and gave feedback to their team, to which they sorta asked "why" and I didn't have a great answer, since seeing every single task in Gantt view would be a bit overwhelming and not sure how truly useful it'd be. Curious to hear your thoughts though?
I see your point about the Gantt view challenges. Here's why I'm interested in it:
My tasks have become larger and more strategic lately, with longer durations and many interdependencies (thx to project featueres). I'd like to see how they relate to each other and affect the overall project timeline.
A Gantt view for these tasks could help identify bottlenecks that aren't obvious in the current list view.
I understand it's complex to implement, especially with auto-scheduling.
Just an idea for the long-term. Thanks for considering it!
Ah, interesting! And totally makes sense-so, wondering if maybe "Project Stages" could help in this case? Like with Flows, there are stages, with tasks within the stages, and then with our most recent community post, you can actually see the project stages as little dots in the Gantt Chart view, so you can see what stages are taking the longest (e.g. what groups of tasks are slowing a project down, almost like little milestones if you will).
Wondering if that might help solve the issue you're referring to potentially? Essentially giving further visibility into a project from the grouping of tasks (stages)? We've seen that to be a big unlock for us, comes out of the box with Flows.
P.S. I know you said thanks for considering it, but we actually don't have any influence over Motion haha you can write to support to give feedback, that'd be your best bet. Next time I'm on a feedback call or something with them though, happy to share what you shared though! Just no idea when that'd be haha
I'm still using Google Keep but I let it get outdated constantly
Totally, I still find myself using Keep as a scratchpad at times to just get something saved somewhere quickly on the go.
I feel like Google Keep actually has a lot of potential especially with the deep Gemini integration coming, but the biggest downfall is just that Google doesn't care about Keep as much as these other apps care about their tool. Constantly baffling to me.
But yeah, my Keep is a complete and total mess, but it's where I have my glasses prescription for some reason, very odd things 😂
Such a solid video! Blown away by the quality and great information 👏👏
Appreciate that Jessica! Awe, this is what motivates us to keep things going 🙏
Curious which Todo app you're leaning on/using and for what use-case (don't worry, there's no judgements, just curious!)
Dropped Apple “Notes” a few times but didn’t bring up the actual Apple todo app Reminders. The iOS 18 version has big upgrades. It’s Apple ecosystem only tho.
Fair point, people often associate "Apple Notes" as being both Notes and Reminders. The title was cleaner this way, but the video still stands, use these apps instead of Apple Reminders (as well) 😁
Have you tried any of the task management apps mentioned in the video?
apple only is a deal breaker for collaboration in 2024
Amazing content, just exact what I was looking for! Thank you so much for robust and clean review! It we consider only free plans for 5 people cooperation, would you choose superlist or ticktick and why? Thanks!
Oh boy... When you say 5 people, are you referring to family members? Or is this for a company? If the latter, I don't think we can recommend either 😅
If it's for family, then we'd say give Superlist a shot: efficient.deals/superlist
TickTick starts getting quite limited when using it with others and will quickly try getting you onto paid tiers. Pretty sure you can't even share tasks with more than 2 people without paying on TickTick.
How do you like the Clicky keyboard case on your iPhone? Been considering one curious to know if it helps with productivity and worth price and extra weight
I love it! There is definitely a learning curve though, don't expect to pick it up and type super fast. It took me about 6 weeks of practice to get comfortable with it. You can easily switch between the keyboard and glass as you're learning. The weight hasn't bothered me at all.
I just love the tactile nature of the keys, and also it's a great conversation starter as everyone is so curious about it. You can also set up a ton of keyboard shortcuts for productivity (as long as you invest the time upfront for setup). Their new commercial does a good job at showing off some examples (look it up on their RUclips channel!).
Whoaa, channel branding and editing got an upgrade. This is sick!
Ayyy! Thanks Dan 🙏 yes! We've been hard at work on a full rebrand, may or may not be a sneak peek for what's to come on our new site design, full rebuild from the ground up for efficient.app (coming soon) 😉
Appreciate your comment, means a lot our new friend!
When talking about Todoist, you complain that "there are too many options when wanting to add a task". But then when reviewing Motion, which shows even more options in the "add task" form, that's suddenly not a complaint anymore. That is a bit contradictory, don't you think?
You are correct, there is some context that our editor cut out of the final video because it slowed things down too much, but I understand what you are saying. Adding context:
In the video, I mentioned when I first started looking for a task app it was 2020 and I just wanted something super basic (aka why I used TickTick because I was looking for something more for personal use, barely any work tasks). The tasks that I used TickTick for were things like “Groceries” or “Get paperwork ready for accountant, etc”. Todoist was too much for this use case.
When I started working in this business (Efficient App), we actually used Asana for project management and I continued to use TickTick for personal tasks.
That said, when we started using Motion for business, I started managing both work and personal tasks in there as it was robust enough to handle both needs.
Todoist + TickTick + Superlist fit better into the personal to do app category while Motion fits better in the work + personal app category.
Totally understand this wasn’t 100% clear, will do better next time!
#sponsered by motion lmao
Todoist works great for projects even, if you organize it well and use kanban board. It's great.
Hey, I jsut signed up but accedientally seemed to have clicked the wrong link. I've made a request with support but wanted to make sure you got credit after this fantastic video. I'm also curious what the course has to offer. Please let me know if there is anything I should do besides reaching out to a live agent. Thanks
Ah, assuming you're referring to the Motion course? efficient.deals/motion
You can see what the course offers here, we're just finishing up on the landing page for it: efficient.link/courses/motion
We can check if you used our link or not if you want to respond to the email you get when you fill out your email on the efficient.deals/motion page though!
Just subscribed - good quality video. I'm a team of one, looking after multiple clients. For each client need a client specific project (and potentially subprojects) and tasks, be able to invite client team to collaborate on that project, assign tasks etc. Don't specifically need access to client calendars, just my own. Motion good for this?
Awe thanks! Okay, so to everything you said... Yes-UNTIL-you mentioned inviting client teams to collaborate on that project.
Motion doesn't yet allow for inviting guests, and while it's sure to come in the future, a few thoughts on this point as I was in the same boat as you when I first started using Motion.
In client services, getting a client in your actual project management tool gets super messy, super quickly. You need to be super careful about what you say/do, visibility options become critical so clients can't see other client work, etc. you need to over-engineer a lot and think more about every word you put into your PM tool.
Our recommendation is to pick a PM tool for yourself and your team that you'll have the most success with, and instead use a tool for communication with the client, sharing only updates as needed. Whether that's a mixture of a help desk + Loom, Slack + Loom, or a shared documentation tool like Slite/Notion for just sharing updates and notes.
Getting clients too deep in the weeds on each task is setting you up to 1) get micro-managed, and 2) inundate them with too much information and fine details, that they actually get fatigued. Don't make an internal PM decision for proposed external client needs.
Your best bet is to just give Motion a shot to see if it solves your problems in a way that works for you since they are innovating a lot in this space. Otherwise you could fall back to a different tool that does all of this in one, but again, huge warnings about trying to get your clients into your PM tool. We've been in this space for over a decade and... It doesn't work.
Be sure to grab the course if you do give it a shot! efficient.deals/motion
But yeah, we'd recommend Motion + Slite, here's some free credit for the latter: efficient.deals/slite - also, as someone that is hiring a lot of contractors (essentially teams like you), believe me in saying, I do not want access to your PM tool, I'm not going to check it, you're overwhelming me, either use mine or communicate in something like Slack/Email/a shared doc.
Subscribed and buying motion
Ayyy, amazing! Welcome to the fam!
P.S. Be sure to use this link to sign up: efficient.link/r/motion and then claim the deal here: efficient.deals/motion
If you do that then you'll get our Motion course for free: efficient.link/courses/motion
why didn't you include things3 which is one of the main todo list apps in the app store?
We didn't include Things3 because we're primarily a B2B and prosumer-focused channel, so all of the apps that were mentioned not only work with teams, but also work cross-platform. The fact that Things3 is an Apple device-only app, pretty much makes it a non-starter for teams.
We feel there's more than enough "individual productivity" channels on RUclips, so there's no shortage of videos talking about Things3, yet there's not much content talking about software as it pertains to teams and businesses-that's our expertise and skillset!
ToDo List apps, while inherently more "individual", don't have to be. Like the apps mentioned in the video, they can start as individual and move to team and business usage.
As an individual, I've been tempted by Things3 for many years now, but the point is, it'll never be the best solution for teams and business, therefore it doesn't make sense to cover it as a core contender in this space.
Totally understand the confusion though-you'll see that calendar + todo apps are quite literally the only category we've covered which toes the line into individuals/productivity. We were wary of even creating a video on this topic for exactly this reason. Our channel and content is meant for teams and businesses, if that makes sense?
So, there are no calendar notifications in Motion, right?
If so, it seems Morgen is better on Calendar + integrations (tasks)
Motion has meeting & task reminders on desktop, sounds like mobile notifications is on the roadmap!
Morgen is great for personal use/tasks, just not as robust for layered work related tasks as Motion. But if you have simple tasks, it totally works! We actually covered our thoughts about Morgen in this video if you want to check it out: efficient.link/yt/calendar
@efficientapp thanks for your response and the insight you have provided me, that is very helpful to me.
Microsoft To Do for me - free, simple, and the notifications stay there until you deal with it (many others only appear for a little while so easy to miss)
Sounds like you found your perfect fit!
same for tick tick.
Totally, but you're not able to use it for business or teams. It's very much a personal-only to-do list app.
@@efficientapp I completely agree. In my case, I use the TickTick app for all my quick captures and reminders, while my notes are organized in Obsidian. Since collaboration isn't a priority for me, I stick with TickTick due to its constant reminder feature.
TickTick has really nice time scheduling now. Tasks and calendar up on the screen at the same time where you can drag your tasks and reschedule them. You can essentially achieve the same functionality Akiflow gives you (though Akilow is overall better, but more expensive and lacks habits). Less than half the cost of Akiflow.
For personal tasks, TickTick is great, but for business it’s quite lackluster (and if you’re a business, software that makes you more efficient is worth the cost).
For business, we don’t recommend optimizing for cost, we recommend optimizing for efficiency, enjoyment, the best software you enjoy using the most.
What about using asana for personal use?
I tried that for a few years and it was quite overwhelming. I also found that I actually liked having personal and work separated a bit, because otherwise I was going into Asana at the time for personal tasks, and then feeling like I was in work mode all of a sudden. You can give it a try, I just wouldn't recommend it, and there are some good personal solutions as mentioned in the video, or even our daily planner/calendar video goes into some others: efficient.link/yt/calendar + efficient.link/yt/planner
But yeah, Asana "technically" could work personally, it just wasn't built for that and you're going to feel like you're in business software when using it for personal usage is all.
new subscriber from India.. great 👍
Awe, thanks and glad to have you! What Todo app do you use?
Tick Tick & keep for quick notes
Excellent warning on Notion and the "templates" that others are promoting. What a rabbit trail / red herring. Who wants work to determine how to do their work? Nuts!. Every template boils down to how someone else digested their tasks for them. We all need underwear, but I certainly don't want someone elses'. Thanks again for the great video. Motion sounds intriguing but most collab software falls apart when working for a corporation with strict security policies. This is why I carve out key functions between work and. personal with regard to tools.
Haha exactly! Every template is someone's unique perspective on how to get work done, for them. It hasn't been tested on the millions of users and customers that competing project management/task management tools are, so every template is missing invaluable user feedback at scale.
Not even to mention that Notion was not built for tasks/project management at a core, so it'll never actually handle it well (unless they totally rebuild and rearchitect their database/infrastructure, which isn't going to happen).
Fair point regarding a corporation with strict security policies, though you could pitch it to the IT department probably since Motion is SOC2 compliant and has all the most important security measures required for businesses. I hear ya though, it's tough!
Was this just a well crafted ad for Motion? 🤔🤔🤔
Good guess, but no. Motion had no idea we were making this video, wondering if they are even aware of it now. We were not compensated in any way for any of the apps mentioned in the video, though if you do sign up for any of them with any of our affiliate links, we will get a small kickback, whether you give Superlist, Todoist, Notion or Motion a shot, so why not try them all? 🤷♂️
Using Notion for PM would be like using a physical franklin covey in purple gator with bubble gum washi tape for special days
I can't say I understand the reference, but that sounds absolutely painfully brutal, so I'd say it checks out 😆
@efficientapp omg, women on RUclips were documenting their day planner obsessions, not sure if it's still a thing or not but it was very...
Idk it seemed like a lot of lonely housewives going overboard :-/
I think you guys should try doing personal reviews. Don't know about your public in general , but personal and team management needs are very different.
Our channel is focused on business, professionals, and teams. There's no shortage of general personal productivity-focused channels, where things are unique for us is that we've been consulting teams of all sizes on their software stack for over a decade now.
So we're not really planning on going the personal path with our channel. Hope you can understand 🙏
No love for Cultured Code Things? Of all the to-do list apps I've tried, it is far and away the best. The only thing missing is auto-scheduling, which is why I use Motion for work. But it has the best user-interface, syncing, offline support (a huge must). I guess the only other downside is the cost.
It's not that we have no love toward Things, but rather we're focusing our criteria more on To-Do List Apps that have the potential of working with teams. Things only works on iOS and macOS (Apple only), which doesn't lead it to the criteria we were covering based on. We focused on the most popular ones that we have used quite intimately.
I've personally tried Things (on macOS) myself over the years, but as I have an Android device, it didn't lend itself to being a scalable option since out of the box, both Andra and myself cannot use it together.
Everything reviewed has a business/team tier and that was the main focus of the video. The only exception being TickTick, but the point of calling out TickTick was that we both not only used it, but we find that people were often getting confused by the fact that MKBHD uses it and talks about it (for personal usage).
If you've seen the rest of the videos on our channel, we're approaching tools on a business/team level, there's no shortage of other channels focusing on just sheer individual productivity. We aren't all that confident that true productivity comes from an app for individuals and our expertise stems in business consulting and team collaboration, if that makes sense?
Surprised Things 3 was not reviewed with comments.
Mentioned it to one other in here. We're primarily a B2B software review/comparison channel, so we focus on reviewing tools that were built for, and can be used in business. While we spoke about TickTick, it was solely because many have confused it as a B2B task management tool since MKBHD has been vocal about using it. He uses it for personal, not business though.
The rest of the tools mentioned are squarely targeting businesses and teams right now, so that's why we wanted to cover them. Personal todo list apps are far less exciting and there's far too many of them.
@@efficientapp i appreciate the clarification, but if the main point of reviewing for any audience is to show the "best" solution for the best price, wouldn't it matter less how theyre marketed? also, can there really be a one size fits all solution in this category for businesses when they all operate differently from each other?
It's not about how they're marketed, it's about if they can actually work for businesses or not. Some software was not built for teams and actual business use-cases, that's where our expertise is and what we're focusing our content on.
If you look at our other content, it's quite squarely focused on business use-cases, it's just that Todo list apps are sometimes used by businesses and individuals in teams, when in reality they need a more business/team-friendly solution.
Businesses have different needs, yes, but the point is, at a foundation, is the software built for business use-cases or not? And some just aren't, so that's what we're effectively calling out.
There's no shortage of individual productivity-focused channels on RUclips. We're just focusing our efforts on businesses is all so that's the lens that our comparisons are geared toward. Not sure how else to put it, it's not about what the software says they do or who they are for, it's based on what we think it's best for, and some of these are not good for business/team usage.
@@efficientapp i understand, thanks for elaborating
Are you kidding me, todoist is cumbersome ??? LMFAOL
Well what would you describe it as?
@@efficientapp Quick, snappy, and clean. 😉
I have to agree with this comment. I also laughed when describing Todoist as too cumbersome. Todoist's Quick Add feature is one of the best in the business and you don't have to use all the options it gives you access to. It's the one task management I can use w/o thinking about the app itself. Granted, they have a way to go on their Calendar feature but are making rapid progress in that area. Lastly, knocking Todoist for tagging their paid features is silly. When doing a review, use a paid for version so you're truly reviewing the actual capabilities of the software.
I just use sticky notes they work very will
Haha I'd love to know what your room/house/office must look like 😁 assuming you don't collaborate with a team at all in this case?
@@efficientapp I like to write down the 3 most important tasks in my day. If I finish them, I get a reward that I've chosen for that day. For example, today if I finish my tasks, I will watch a film. This keeps me motivated and makes the work feel more rewarding. 🙂
In the past, I had a very complex system. I was using Todoist for planning normal tasks and then making them dependent on each day. I was also tracking my projects and tasks using Notion. I was focusing so much on the future and practicing time-boxing, which was all good, but it wasn't working for me. It made me feel like I was doing something, but I wasn't really making progress on the big things that would truly advance my studies and business.
What works for me now is that every day, I wake up, drink water, and write down the most important tasks. I make them rewarding at the end of the day. This simple approach helps me focus on the big things that really matter, rather than getting bogged down in a complex system.
I’m for ToDoist
Curious, for personal usage, or?
@@efficientapp both personal & business
Ticktick by far
Yup, can see why you like TickTick! We enjoyed it while we used it for a few years!
this comes across as a motion shill/advertisement more than anything else.
We use Motion 🤷🏼♀️ It’s as authentic as it gets, there are enough channels that will try to be neutral and recommend every software and say “at the end of the day, try them all and see what’s best for you” and we’re not that channel. You’re going to find opinions here and many people appreciate that guidance. Totally understand if we’re not for you!
For me ToDoist is enough for everything. Motion is too expensive. The price is too high.
Totally understand! Motion is more for businesses, so if you're just looking to use it for personal use, we can understand that it feels too expensive. As the saying goes, "if it aint' broke, don't fix it" so if you love Todoist, then no reason to try something new 🙌
@@efficientapp Exactly, for me ToDoist is absolutely meets my needs, both personal and for work (without team).
Totally makes sense! Do you think you'll stick with it if in the future you add team members?
@@efficientapp It depends on the number of the team. I think if it is a small team (less than 10) it will be Ok.
Oh wow, I mean even at 10 that's a pretty sizable team for Todoist. Think you might be better off with a more proper PM tool by that point, but totally understand wanting to try making it work! Todoist doesn't let you really handle projects, dependencies, or reporting, for which is usually quite important for a team that size.
Apple notes is NOT a task app. Can you use it that way sure, but calling it a task app is just not what Apple even intended. That is what Apple Reminders is for. You’re also confusing the difference between corporate and personal needs and task apps and planner apps which can be very different. Also, I’ve tried Superlist and I don’t think it’s as good as Todoist. Motion is expensive and is really for corporate/business use, and the fact that your running a business means you’re probably deducting the monthly cost off your taxes. That’s important for people to understand.
While fair, the point is, most people, sadly, use Apple Notes for their To-Do List, instead of a proper task app, hence why we're calling that out. Apple Reminders is more like a super barbones task app, and there are many other, better, free options available. It's still that people default to using Apple Notes for notes and tasks quickly though.
Also, our channel is more focused on business/prosumer, also believe it or not, but many of our friends are business owners and founders, and they too will pull open Apple Notes to write down some quick notes/to-dos.
Understand that you've had more success with Todoist, as we mentioned in the video, with Superlist, we leveraged it more for a mixture of notes and tasks intertwined. I wouldn't say Todoist or Superlist are one better than the other, but rather different approaches at a similar thing.
Motion is only expensive if you aren't using it for any high value tasks. It's also not just for business use, they actually seem to have many students as customers and individuals, in addition to businesses, but fair point in that a business is probably more likely to be open to investing in a proper solution than an individual. Again, it all comes down to how high value the tasks are that you're using the app for as Motion does do additional things that will help you save time.
Also, being a business doesn't just make tools "free" because you can "deduct it from your taxes". You still need to pay for it, and have the business making money to pay for the software. It's just that it's technically pre-tax based on business income, so you don't have to pay for the software on after-tax money, so you're maybe saving 20% of the price of the software paying through the business versus personally based on income effectively. Either way, it's quite menial, the point is you're still paying and either you're getting value from it and it's saving you time and thus worthwhile (personal or business), or it isn't. That is the more important discernment to have when considering purchasing one of these apps.
Big lies about Todoist. I'll just block this channel. Not reliable and slave to money probably.
Wait, what? What part about Todoist that we said was a lie?
@@efficientapp here's not a lie, but a blatant inconsistency. You say that there's too many options when wanting to add a task to Todoist. But then go to review Motion, and do not mention the same, when Motion has even more options in the "add task" UI. It suggests that you may be biased towards one tool over the other.
You already commented this same thing on this video and we took the time to respond to you, but will copy/paste it here again:
You are correct, there is some context that our editor cut out of the final video because it slowed things down too much, but I understand what you are saying. Adding context:
In the video, I mentioned when I first started looking for a task app it was 2020 and I just wanted something super basic (aka why I used TickTick because I was looking for something more for personal use, barely any work tasks). The tasks that I used TickTick for were things like “Groceries” or “Get paperwork ready for accountant, etc”. Todoist was too much for this use case.
When I started working in this business (Efficient App), we actually used Asana for project management and I continued to use TickTick for personal tasks.
That said, when we started using Motion for business, I started managing both work and personal tasks in there as it was robust enough to handle both needs.
Todoist + TickTick + Superlist fit better into the personal to do app category while Motion fits better in the work + personal app category.
Totally understand this wasn’t 100% clear, will do better next time!