Only imagine if they would've released both P90 and Vector for Security while adding the MP40 and PPSH for Insurgents. It would fit the theme so much better.
the MP40 is a fucking relic because of how the german goverment wanted to de-nazify their country,the PPSH is just tin with a large mag,probrably would make sense
This is actually pretty disappointing. Sandstorm revels in its understanding of how guns work, but this has an unusually high number of errors. Not to mention the questionable choice of factions. The P90 is still favored by a fair few Western special operations units for its unique advantages. Would the late Soviet-era Bizon not have been a better choice for Insurgents? They also missed a big opportunity to expand the ammo types with armor piercing to strategize against teams running heavy armor, giving the 5.7x28mm an option for its legendary body armor melting capability
For anyone interested in the history of the P90, I recommend watching the NATO PDW Trials video from 9-Hole Reviews. There are always a lot of people stating it was designed to counter the body armor of Russian paratroopers, but that is not the case. The AP cartridges of the P90 and MP7 were explicitly designed to penetrate soft body armor, and not hard ceramic plates. Russian paratroopers wore armor that could not be penetrated by the P90 or MP7. In fact, the US military's current standard M855A1 5.56x45mm ammo can't penetrate cold war era Russian body armor either, let alone modern armor. That is why the US military is running the NGSW program, and looking into adopting a new standard issue rifle in the larger 6.8x51mm cartridge.
@@baker90338 Check the link 6rain8 posted below in this comment chain. Testing done by Oxide, showing both SS109 and M855A1 fired from a 20" barrel not penetrating the 1980s era Soviet 6.5mm titanium armor.
I love seeing Insurgents looking like titanfall pilots Edit: this is a joke I do not really like the addition of insurgents with semi futuristic gear similar to titanfall
@@sninctbur3726 in no way shape or form is the insurgency helmet similar to or a specific motorcycle helmet. It has a static visor and even has a ballistic helmet with a nvg mount on it.
@@lorenzosyperreck8941 but it literally is based off an airsoft helmet...no nation uses or is intending to switch to enclosed helmets they are bulky and uncomfortable for the wearer, I think quite literally the only people who would wear that shit are edgelords and insurgents who think it looks intimidating, so basically edgelords.
Ahoy makes the best videos in the gaming sphere, and bar none. As for the weapon, I've always loved the P90. No idea why the Insurgents get it though, but then again, they got the Galil Ace seemingly only because it's a Kalashnikov iteration, so who knows.
Watching the video and considering that there is the “mercenary” insurgent voice who shouts stuff like “blyat,” it sorta does feel like a counter strike reference of some degree.
Kinda the same feeling when I played MW2 and saw the Russian soldiers with the Tavors, Kriss Vectors, FAMAS rifles, and F2000s. Maybe it's the idea that a "unique looking" firearm = Bad Guy Gun.
There are photographs of real-world insurgents equipped with P90s. It's possible that they were salvaged from in-universe security troops before they stopped using it.
Well given the recent fiasco with Afghanistan it’s pretty plausible Rebels would get this kind of hardware. The game is also based elements of the Libyan Civil war where the rebels did get their hands in FN2000 rifles and P90s.
the 5.7x28 is designed to burn its powder really fast so the ideal barrel lenght is short(er) than similar sized calibers and add to that the already long bullpup barrel that barrel extension won't do anything noticable at all.
Happy to see the P90 properly modeled with it's unique optics. About the colour of the reticle, I thought they were red too, but there were models with the green colour. I don't remember where I find them but I did find out while searching. Yet I'm a bit angry with the update. I hate when there are some glitches still present, or new ones. We waited some time for this update since CTE, but I didn't mind to wait and was ready to wait more as long as there are no serious bugs. And f*** there are : the multiple VIP spawn, which was already there during the CTE, and now this magical headscarf above some players that are just a bad curse, mimicking a sort of wallhack directed to them.
5.7x28mm rounds are almost a dollar per shot where I live. Using this thing in checkpoint, I cant help but think of how much money is going down the drain. If you got robbed and resorted to shooting the guy with a five seven, you would have lost less money if you just gave him your wallet.
1983? It took a certain kind of man to survive that hell, we didn’t know who to turn to as our friends were slaughtered day after day. We were afraid to go to sleep in fear that we might never wake up. Bullets flying everywhere, the blood of your comrades drowning the ground you walked on. I wanted to forget that nightmare, but one doesn’t simply forget the minecraft village siege.
I think I know why the Insurgents get the P90. If you look at the history of the P90 and MP7, they were both trying to fit the need of a new, stronger cartridge than 9mm. So the P90 and MP7 were directly competing so since Security already has the MP7, the Insurgents get its counterpart, the P90
Yes, the P90 is very commonly seen in the hands of insurgents around the world. That's why when you Google it, the images are just Jihadis and revolutionaries from every corner of the planet with P90s. Never seen a Western country armed with P90s, especially not police or security forces. Just insurgents with P90s. Good detective work.
Considering that this was in production since 1990, it's been out for a whole 30 years. 30 years of private security, special forces, police forces all just trickling down into the arsenals of insurgents... Not to mention the rapid and poorly managed retreats of the American military. Now Insurgents should be getting their kitted-out M4's as well!
Maybe in the Sandstorm universe there was an 'Afghanistan' event and the insurgents acquired some top of the line weaponry. Thanks to ill guided leaders of 1st world nations which could potentially happen, maybe? Hypothetically of course. Some weapons acquired of which may have been a couple crates of P90's. It was free real estate.
I dont mind adding P90, I just wish they have given it (and vector) to the breacher. It's slowly becoming the gunner in terms of weapons (at least gunner can pack firepower)
i get what they were going for Advisor is supposed to have more unique and exotic weaponry, the idea being they are foreign agents paid to interfere within local conflicts, whereas the rest of the roles are supposed to represent more local forces. at the very least it means these didn't take up the breachers update meaning we'll either get new Breacher SMG's or shotguns this year.
@@snakeeyes941 which is why the as val and honey badger should have been on advisor, but they didn't do that "because they are close range".... the decision making with NWI is stupid.
I continue to be impressed by the knowledge you have in these guns. I really respect the amount of research you do in these, quite unique and refreshing.
"Knowledge" - or just repeating what he vaguely remembers from reading the Wikipedia article on them. Still facepalming at some of the stuff he's said about the way some guns work in reality, namely when he referred to the .300 Blackout as being weak.
You are easily the most underrated channel 1. With Sandstorm content 2. With tactical gaming content 3. Well produced, informative /and/ entertaining content I don't get it. You should have 150K minimum. Your channel is basically the RUclips equivalent of the Fermi Paradox.
@@l.q.a.6279 It still doesn't make sense due to how rare p90 and how expensive it's ammo is. It should've been a pp-bizon that is more common since Russians sell it off frequently like they sold ak. This is just NWI being retarded.
Thanks i love your gun guides it really helps me a lot. I got this game a couple of days ago and I didn’t know which guns were good or bad until I watched more of your gun guides thanks😊😊😊
I like the reference to Ahoy not uploading in 6 months, but its really bad timing because he teased his next video by updating his fb profile banner today lol
Thank you for the vid, Snipes! I havent played CTE and only yesterday Ive checked out P90 and even before I took it I knew it is gonna appear in game nerfed with bigger recoil and lower penetration, because on the paper it sounds like It's OP
like no game making RDS semi transparent makes small profile 1x sights not usable in FPS games. The stock sight works well in real life, not so much in any game
now, I kinda want to see a Five-seveN added to match... or something stupid like an AR-57 made to be full auto.... cuz that would make more sense for the Insurgents, with the Security getting the actual P90
When I play insurgents I don't use high tech guns and I put on minimal attachments, I hate insurgents running around with high tech weaponry and airsoft gear. I usually model my insurgent outfits on the terrorists from csgo.
Even tho it's weaker than the MP7 (which is accurate), this thing with a suppressor and a recoil grip does slap. But vertical recoil should be reduced tbh.
It has superior flesh terminal ballistics, but didn't penetrate armor quite as well simply because of the design of the bullet tested. The 5.7 had a steel tip with copper jacketing, while the 4.6 was a steel bullet coated in copper. Regardless, none of them penetrared what they were supposed to penetrate, and the 5.7 t6b, or "black dragon fang" blows them both out of the water in terms of flesh damage and armor penetration
@@alexc6582 It is, actually. The 4.6 bullet performs better at first, but the 5.7 mantains its velocity and energy better at range. And not no mention that the MP7 uses 4.6x30mm AP bullets in this game, while the P90 uses the standard 5.7x28mm, not the "black dragon fang".
Well in all fairness, the round is already coming out of the optimal barrel length, so the extra barrel length would offer very little in the way of increased velocity, if any.
Just to put it out there for the other meta sweats like myself ace 52 is def still better in my opinion unless you are on gap tell or any other map where you are balls to the wall the entire match (this is from exclusively a push player so take with that what you will)
@@Awootistic at least in Insurgency the modifications you can do to your weapons wouldn't literally make them nonfunctional (i.e. removing the stock on an MG-42)
Because 5.7mm sucks. It only penetrates pistol rated stuff so it doesn't make sense to just use a carbine length rifle instead, and otherwise 9mm is better when used on targets not wearing armor.
Broth the vector has so little recoil that I think it's actually a detriment gameplay wise. Think of how siege players used to complain how when final surge was active their aim messed up, same thing here.
Yes. You have to delete anticheat and then run the game and its gonna be reinstalled properly. I was to lazy to do that so I tried to launch the game from steamapps/common/sandstorm folder, try it too
Only imagine if they would've released both P90 and Vector for Security while adding the MP40 and PPSH for Insurgents. It would fit the theme so much better.
Yeah!
Pp19 bizon could be a good alternative to p90 if the last one was for security
That would make far too much sense for NWI.
the MP40 is a fucking relic because of how the german goverment wanted to de-nazify their country,the PPSH is just tin with a large mag,probrably would make sense
@@aziirax3400 MP40 has a unique look to it
The magazine being see through is also on the AUG and M110 in addition to the G36K.
But strangely not on the VHS despite it being able to take G36 mags
@@danielmarsden4573 when a gun can take STANAG, nobody gives a shit about any other wacky thing it could fit.
This is actually pretty disappointing. Sandstorm revels in its understanding of how guns work, but this has an unusually high number of errors. Not to mention the questionable choice of factions. The P90 is still favored by a fair few Western special operations units for its unique advantages. Would the late Soviet-era Bizon not have been a better choice for Insurgents? They also missed a big opportunity to expand the ammo types with armor piercing to strategize against teams running heavy armor, giving the 5.7x28mm an option for its legendary body armor melting capability
Heavy armour is next to useless anyway
Or the AO-46 can be an Insurgent weapon.
If you don’t scream “Rush B” whilst using this gun your doing it wrong
You also have to be Russian
I scream “DEATH TO THE FALSE GODS” instead.
Rush B cyka
Ok tbh I’m glad they added two new guns but at the same time I feel like the bizon would be a better counter part to the p90
I mean, I guess you could use the 7N31 ammo, but the fire rate is no match
For anyone interested in the history of the P90, I recommend watching the NATO PDW Trials video from 9-Hole Reviews. There are always a lot of people stating it was designed to counter the body armor of Russian paratroopers, but that is not the case. The AP cartridges of the P90 and MP7 were explicitly designed to penetrate soft body armor, and not hard ceramic plates. Russian paratroopers wore armor that could not be penetrated by the P90 or MP7. In fact, the US military's current standard M855A1 5.56x45mm ammo can't penetrate cold war era Russian body armor either, let alone modern armor. That is why the US military is running the NGSW program, and looking into adopting a new standard issue rifle in the larger 6.8x51mm cartridge.
I thought it was m193 that couldn't penetrate?
Thanks for the info.
ruclips.net/video/MbPT9z_RzYA/видео.html
You mean that Gun Jesus lied to me?
ruclips.net/video/M20PiFxMkrs/видео.html
@@baker90338 Check the link 6rain8 posted below in this comment chain. Testing done by Oxide, showing both SS109 and M855A1 fired from a 20" barrel not penetrating the 1980s era Soviet 6.5mm titanium armor.
I love seeing Insurgents looking like titanfall pilots
Edit: this is a joke I do not really like the addition of insurgents with semi futuristic gear similar to titanfall
NoOoOo, tHey arE UsiNG AiRsOft GeAr
tbh i'd like to have that helmet irl if it's really an airsoft one lmao
It's motorcycle gear
@@sninctbur3726 in no way shape or form is the insurgency helmet similar to or a specific motorcycle helmet. It has a static visor and even has a ballistic helmet with a nvg mount on it.
@@lorenzosyperreck8941 but it literally is based off an airsoft helmet...no nation uses or is intending to switch to enclosed helmets they are bulky and uncomfortable for the wearer, I think quite literally the only people who would wear that shit are edgelords and insurgents who think it looks intimidating, so basically edgelords.
Ahoy makes the best videos in the gaming sphere, and bar none.
As for the weapon, I've always loved the P90. No idea why the Insurgents get it though, but then again, they got the Galil Ace seemingly only because it's a Kalashnikov iteration, so who knows.
Watching the video and considering that there is the “mercenary” insurgent voice who shouts stuff like “blyat,” it sorta does feel like a counter strike reference of some degree.
Kinda the same feeling when I played MW2 and saw the Russian soldiers with the Tavors, Kriss Vectors, FAMAS rifles, and F2000s. Maybe it's the idea that a "unique looking" firearm = Bad Guy Gun.
There are photographs of real-world insurgents equipped with P90s. It's possible that they were salvaged from in-universe security troops before they stopped using it.
@@sninctbur3726
🤔 Interesting theory.
Well given the recent fiasco with Afghanistan it’s pretty plausible Rebels would get this kind of hardware. The game is also based elements of the Libyan Civil war where the rebels did get their hands in FN2000 rifles and P90s.
Can we get a B in chat
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Bravo!
the 5.7x28 is designed to burn its powder really fast so the ideal barrel lenght is short(er) than similar sized calibers and add to that the already long bullpup barrel that barrel extension won't do anything noticable at all.
2:49 This part is the best part of the video. This confusion, this persistence in holding the trigger. XD
weeping crying shitting myself in that clip
It was actually created to counter Russian paratroopers.... ironic.
Along with the MP 7 it was H&K's hat into the ring
@@braydenpeyer8309 Correct sir. PDW's that can penetrate Russian body armor.
@@Astorath_the_Grim Yep for rearward troops like artillery or drivers who don't need a full size rifle.
@@Astorath_the_Grim But it couldn't even penetrate Soviet helmets somehow
@@_arthur_360 where did you get that information?
Hot and cool. Glad they fixed the charging handle, maybe they will change the irons to make them accurate too
Been subbed to Ahoy for probably a decade or more now, love your references to him. Guy is a legend
Stargate theme intensifies
oh thank god, I thought I was the only one seeing those weird floating balaclavas
I have killed so many people because they don't realize there's a giant balloon floating over their heads lol
Happy to see the P90 properly modeled with it's unique optics. About the colour of the reticle, I thought they were red too, but there were models with the green colour. I don't remember where I find them but I did find out while searching.
Yet I'm a bit angry with the update. I hate when there are some glitches still present, or new ones. We waited some time for this update since CTE, but I didn't mind to wait and was ready to wait more as long as there are no serious bugs. And f*** there are : the multiple VIP spawn, which was already there during the CTE, and now this magical headscarf above some players that are just a bad curse, mimicking a sort of wallhack directed to them.
5.7x28mm rounds are almost a dollar per shot where I live. Using this thing in checkpoint, I cant help but think of how much money is going down the drain.
If you got robbed and resorted to shooting the guy with a five seven, you would have lost less money if you just gave him your wallet.
0:36 we all miss him
0:46: when u rush b, literally...
Thanks to the release of the p90 there are now even more people how I can fit 50 rounds in such a small package
1983? It took a certain kind of man to survive that hell, we didn’t know who to turn to as our friends were slaughtered day after day. We were afraid to go to sleep in fear that we might never wake up. Bullets flying everywhere, the blood of your comrades drowning the ground you walked on. I wanted to forget that nightmare, but one doesn’t simply forget the minecraft village siege.
I think I know why the Insurgents get the P90. If you look at the history of the P90 and MP7, they were both trying to fit the need of a new, stronger cartridge than 9mm. So the P90 and MP7 were directly competing so since Security already has the MP7, the Insurgents get its counterpart, the P90
I suppose that sort of makes sense. Still jarring to see it in their arsenal alongside Mosins and Makarovs.
Yes, the P90 is very commonly seen in the hands of insurgents around the world. That's why when you Google it, the images are just Jihadis and revolutionaries from every corner of the planet with P90s. Never seen a Western country armed with P90s, especially not police or security forces. Just insurgents with P90s. Good detective work.
Why tf is this an insurgent weapon. Should have been sec with a ppsh ins counterpart.
We all know why.
Because it's a cool gun that people recognize and its trying to attract the CoD crowd.
I thought this would have been a gun for security when I first heard about it...
Considering that this was in production since 1990, it's been out for a whole 30 years. 30 years of private security, special forces, police forces all just trickling down into the arsenals of insurgents...
Not to mention the rapid and poorly managed retreats of the American military. Now Insurgents should be getting their kitted-out M4's as well!
Maybe in the Sandstorm universe there was an 'Afghanistan' event and the insurgents acquired some top of the line weaponry. Thanks to ill guided leaders of 1st world nations which could potentially happen, maybe? Hypothetically of course.
Some weapons acquired of which may have been a couple crates of P90's.
It was free real estate.
@@CHIEFSHOTTY _sandstorm lore_
I dont mind adding P90,
I just wish they have given it (and vector) to the breacher.
It's slowly becoming the gunner in terms of weapons (at least gunner can pack firepower)
i get what they were going for Advisor is supposed to have more unique and exotic weaponry, the idea being they are foreign agents paid to interfere within local conflicts, whereas the rest of the roles are supposed to represent more local forces.
at the very least it means these didn't take up the breachers update meaning we'll either get new Breacher SMG's or shotguns this year.
@@snakeeyes941 which is why the as val and honey badger should have been on advisor, but they didn't do that "because they are close range".... the decision making with NWI is stupid.
I continue to be impressed by the knowledge you have in these guns. I really respect the amount of research you do in these, quite unique and refreshing.
"Knowledge" - or just repeating what he vaguely remembers from reading the Wikipedia article on them. Still facepalming at some of the stuff he's said about the way some guns work in reality, namely when he referred to the .300 Blackout as being weak.
See through mags are just beautiful and practical.
meybe theyll use the pen info to add the p90s caliber counter-part the Five-seveN
God please. I NEEEED IT
Once angain the insurgents get the best gun for cheaper
And to be honest, the p90 still way worse then the mp7
I just watched your gun wish list. And now I can say that P90 prediction aged very well.
You are easily the most underrated channel
1. With Sandstorm content
2. With tactical gaming content
3. Well produced, informative /and/ entertaining content
I don't get it. You should have 150K minimum. Your channel is basically the RUclips equivalent of the Fermi Paradox.
I knew you did your intros like Ahoy his style is so good. Miss his videos
Anyone else think it would make more sense for the insurgents to have the Ppsh-41 instead of the p90?
If NWI gave this to Breachers, yea. But since these are Advisor weapons, which is designed to have tacticool shit, I can give them a pass.
@@l.q.a.6279 It still doesn't make sense due to how rare p90 and how expensive it's ammo is. It should've been a pp-bizon that is more common since Russians sell it off frequently like they sold ak. This is just NWI being retarded.
Thanks i love your gun guides it really helps me a lot. I got this game a couple of days ago and I didn’t know which guns were good or bad until I watched more of your gun guides thanks😊😊😊
I like the reference to Ahoy not uploading in 6 months, but its really bad timing because he teased his next video by updating his fb profile banner today lol
That Ruski opening might be my favourite cold open yet haha
Thank you for the vid, Snipes!
I havent played CTE and only yesterday Ive checked out P90 and even before I took it I knew it is gonna appear in game nerfed with bigger recoil and lower penetration, because on the paper it sounds like It's OP
7:12 hey it's me with the unbeatable drip
My biggest gripe with the insurgents having the p90 isn’t the gun itself, rather it’s ammo. 5.7 is fucking expensive, these G.I jihadis are balling.
the integrated red dot might be shit but i refuse to ever not use it
Great video Snipes!
Btw there’s a typo in the description, cheers for the great content!
Holy shit, he has a vocal fry. It's the first man I hear with that speech impediment!
You all know what time it is now, it's time for snipes to make the vector episode
Lol, I’m dying at the TK/suicide at 2:51… looks like how I play
Playing this game on a ps4 is literally torture, you get like 30 FPS with it sometimes dropping as low as like 10, plus it crashes all the time
"Don’t rush b” 😂
My preferred way to use this is to put a okp7, laser, comp/suppressor, and cqb only. Hip fire at extreme close quarters.
like no game making RDS semi transparent makes small profile 1x sights not usable in FPS games.
The stock sight works well in real life, not so much in any game
Ewww I never knew the p90 iron sights were on either side of the rail, that’s nasty
Bruh NWI really did chrome on a plastic gun huh...
Also good vid pal bro
Ahoy vids were so good huh? I remember the bow and arrow and RPG one
omg i remember XboxAhoy, the deep voice 😩
You can really tell that bright side did not animate this weapon
there's a rhythm you can fire the p90 in sandstorm that makes it a laser. try to do three round burst with it.
2nd favorite gun
now, I kinda want to see a Five-seveN added to match... or something stupid like an AR-57 made to be full auto.... cuz that would make more sense for the Insurgents, with the Security getting the actual P90
I see AHoy reference I give like
Russian voice acting is amazing. I speak as a Russian person.
When I play insurgents I don't use high tech guns and I put on minimal attachments, I hate insurgents running around with high tech weaponry and airsoft gear. I usually model my insurgent outfits on the terrorists from csgo.
Please consider increasing your mic/speaking volume. Its the only thing left to be desired in these otherwise solid vids
Cant wait for the vector guide to mention the negative recoil
that ahoy reference hit home
Complain and you shall receive, we now have a new Ahoy video.
Even if it's not Iconic Weapons.
After trying it out in game, the recoil is super easy to control, assuming you don’t hip fire. ADS’d it’s virtical.
Even tho it's weaker than the MP7 (which is accurate), this thing with a suppressor and a recoil grip does slap.
But vertical recoil should be reduced tbh.
It isn't in real life
It has superior flesh terminal ballistics, but didn't penetrate armor quite as well simply because of the design of the bullet tested. The 5.7 had a steel tip with copper jacketing, while the 4.6 was a steel bullet coated in copper. Regardless, none of them penetrared what they were supposed to penetrate, and the 5.7 t6b, or "black dragon fang" blows them both out of the water in terms of flesh damage and armor penetration
@@alexc6582 It is, actually. The 4.6 bullet performs better at first, but the 5.7 mantains its velocity and energy better at range. And not no mention that the MP7 uses 4.6x30mm AP bullets in this game, while the P90 uses the standard 5.7x28mm, not the "black dragon fang".
@@cthulhu06 ya that's what I'm saying
The iron sigh it better than those shitty dots sights.
in a completely neutral manner my eyes hurt frum the new lighting
I'm surprised I haven't seen you in game, do you play on west coast servers or somethin? (My ign is Knightmare) Been enjoying your gun guide series
My man do the AKM, pretty please, allhamdulillah
The Minecraft footage broke me
SG-1 ingame cosplay incoming
The iron sight is misaligned and i hate it
Jeez dude it’s been a day and you already have a video out? DAYUM
Well in all fairness, the round is already coming out of the optimal barrel length, so the extra barrel length would offer very little in the way of increased velocity, if any.
What's next?! The ppsh😂.... hopefully
Epic video man, keep it up!
Disappointed there was no Stargate SG-1 references
What do you use for editing again? You told me in a game once but I completely forgot. Trying to make some halo infinite clips.
Another fantastic upload!
Ahoy released a video immediately after this lmao
Also, what in the blue hell was that on the ceiling?! 😱
Just to put it out there for the other meta sweats like myself ace 52 is def still better in my opinion unless you are on gap tell or any other map where you are balls to the wall the entire match (this is from exclusively a push player so take with that what you will)
I think insurgents got the P90 because dust 2 wouldn't be the same without p90 b rush
I agree
There is no way I am depending on indoor walls to protect me from the 5.7mm round in real life.
That intro🤣🤣🤣
My dude please. The volume disparity between all the shit in your videos is fucking wild.
God I need more Ahoy
Allah... I just want a PPSH and MP40 for the Insurgents.
Are you asking for CoD Vanguard 2: Bubba Boogaloo?
@@Awootistic Insurgency 2014 has more tasteful weapon choices.
@@gregorycomey like?
@@Awootistic at least in Insurgency the modifications you can do to your weapons wouldn't literally make them nonfunctional (i.e. removing the stock on an MG-42)
RIP Ahoy
And the nato world did a 360 and went back to 9x19.
Because 5.7mm sucks. It only penetrates pistol rated stuff so it doesn't make sense to just use a carbine length rifle instead, and otherwise 9mm is better when used on targets not wearing armor.
The P90 is very wierd it feels like firing extremely fast but slow at the same time I don’t like it 😂
2:49 friendly fire madness :D
Point shooting grip + 2x of your choice.
Broth the vector has so little recoil that I think it's actually a detriment gameplay wise. Think of how siege players used to complain how when final surge was active their aim messed up, same thing here.
Ahoy will come back........I hope
The p90 has slightly too much recoil, but I guess that's a balance thing
Probably gonna get a five seven
Kinda off-topic question: does anybody else have problems with starting the game because of EAC?
Yes. You have to delete anticheat and then run the game and its gonna be reinstalled properly. I was to lazy to do that so I tried to launch the game from steamapps/common/sandstorm folder, try it too
I wanted to see the sr-2 or the pp 2000 but p 90 looks Good.
We can finally rush B properly
Transmephadite snipes
The p90 is not a SMG it's a pistol carbine because it's chambered in a rifle caliber.