A separation such that the male can enter and leave the female’s space as he wishes, implemented using an eggcrate, is suggested in: „Clownfishes: A Guide to Their Captive Care, Breeding & Natural History“ Taschenbuch - 1. Januar 1998 von Joyce D. Wilkerson (Author), Thomas A. Frakes (Foreword)
I had no problem pairing my maroons... I had heard all the stories of maroon clown aggression and planned on that being the case. For me it was as simple as hanging a breeder box in the tank on her side right near the anemone with a MUCH smaller maroon. Sure enough she was not happy and attacked the box with him in it. Fortunately for me, and probably for him, the little male instinctively knew to submit, even through the box. This went on for days and honestly I thought it may not work. However days passed and her aggression subsided and she almost seemed to approach the box with some interest rather than aggression at some point... Finally I decided it was time to see if they were ready and released him into the tank where she immediately allowed him into her anemone after a quick submissive gesture. The rest is history.
There was a lot of submission going on but she just kept beating him up. Hoping to get another male in a few months. It will be interesting to see if shes better or worse now that she's spent several months living alone.
Hey mate I’m looking to buy a new small male to pair with my gold lightning maroon, how do you know if the second little clown is a male or not? Any other tips would be appreciated
Get one as small as you can. Hopefully that'll make her less likely to kill it as it is much smaller and not competing for dominance with her. Smaller ones are males. When you pick one out make sure its not overly aggressive or dominant to other tank mates.
there are no other fish in the tank to spread a bit the aggression and attention of the female. For example yellow tale damsels, other damsels, chromis, perhaps some surgeons, even a mirror …
Try 3-4 small maroon clowns at one time with her. My female kept the male hemmed up until she got ready to lay her first set of eggs. I also got them a bubble tip anemone. When she started getting to spot ready for eggs, the male became more aggressive and she has accepted him. Now they both hang out in the 2 rose bubble tip anemone. I would not advise putting her in a larger tank with other fish unless they are bigger and on the aggressive side. She will beat the crap out of them…
@@dianeblake8505 she has produced at least 1000 babies with her new mate and some of those babies have reached maturity as well even some are already females laying eggs. They still live with a gem tang a marine betta a mandarin and 2 banggai’s the only fighting is with the gem tang who has a strange obsession with hanging out with the maroons.
I've had success by adding the smaller fish into the display tank, allowing him to set up territory, then adding ♀ a month later. Granted I've only done it once, maybe i had a comparable pair to begin with.
I thought about this, but the one problem is you wait too long and the male becomes female. Additionally I don't think this had anything to do with territory as soon as they saw each other she went at him. Even though shes in the tank now she would be easy to catch and try and add a new male first. Thanks for the advice.
He may been to young or not submitting enough, usually once the male shows signs of fighting back instead of turning on his side and submitting it usually goes bad 😆 The male must submit always
Average Reef - Any updates? Have you tried again. I understand that if you do try, you'll want to move the female to the QT at the same time as you introduce the male. If you introduce him to her territory, he'll be fish sticks. I ordered a larger gold striped maroon and a smaller lightning maroon and they showed some of the same behavior as yours did - but they now seem to be getting a long. They both spend the days in the back of the tank clearing out the sand - one mouthful at a time. At feeding time, he stays back there and she roams the tank - so I spot feed him. At some point, I will add a BTA - so they hopefully stop kicking up the sand. Every now and then, out of the blue, she knocks the snot out of him - he fights back - then they get back to work on the sand. It is very interesting - she is definitely the boss. Also - My male has the same lighter colors as yours did. Very good looking fish. They will darken as they get larger.
I have two big lightnings and two regular clowns in there as well couple babies none of them are fighting breeding tanks are stressful for the fish not well setup not comfortable for the fish it stresses them out so they get aggressive they do good in a well setup tank with plenty of corals and hideouts
Can a maroon cohabitate with an orchid dottyback or is that a bad idea? I have a 25 gallon tank and these would probably be my only fish (along with shrimp, crab, snail, etc)
Great video..i just tried pairing my lighting marron clown with another lighting marron clown..she beat him up pretty good...how long should i keep him in a breeders box..any advice is much appreciated
I'm currently dealing with the same situation. I purchased two lightning maroons for $80. They have a noticable size difference and my male is doing everything right as far as body language, but the female wants to murder him lol what I'm currently doing now is keeping the male in a breeder box for a week and feeding them multiple times a day and then at the end of the week in the morning I'll let him out without turning the lights on so the female is not as alert. But she still ends up abusing him to the point where I have to put him back in. They're going to get a large upgrade soon to a 300 Gallon system, so I think that'll be plenty enough space for them to figure it out with no interference
@@captivebredcanada Yup. With any clownfish it's hit or miss. Before I had a female percula and let me tell you she ran the tank. I had to return two male clownfish because she wasn't having it lol It can be done though, I have a friend that has a breeding pair of maroons. His advice was to take them out of the community tank and put them in their own tank so they could figure each other out, but I don't want too many tanks in the house. I'm just going to try again when I do the upgrade.
For the fry? See the videos I have made. Initially you start with a very slow bubble rate, you can't use any filter as it will suck them up. When they get bigger you can add filters. I use marine pure gems as well for extra filtration.
You're doing it wrong. These fish need as natural an environment as you can provide them. Live rock, soft corals, live gravel, and especially an anemone are huge helps. A natural environment gives them something to do other than pick on one another, particularly if an anemone is present. Introduce the female to the tank first. After it has settled in, rearrange the rocks in the tank to break up its territory, then introduce the male, and let them settle back into the new environment. Once the anemone accepts them both, (and they are both covered with its stinging cells) they should get along.
You couldn't be more wrong. First of all at the time of quarantining these fish they had never seen rock, corals, sand or anything like that. None of those things are going to change how they interact with each other. Fish, especially clownfish don't need "something to do". Also good luck rearranging a settled aquascape with rocks cemented or otherwise secured in place. In the years since this video the female has produced 100s of babies with her new male who was introduced in a similar fashion.
Why would you have left him in there to eventually be killed when you saw signs of them not becoming a pair very evidently? Very sad. Clowns will generally immediately pair up or pair up within hours. You left them together for how long without seeing them pair up?
That is not true at all for maroons. It takes a long time to pair them. I have since successfully paired her with another male. It again took many attempts and variations of catching the male, then the female ect.
@@sho21gun1 There was no loss of colour. He was dying from the female nothing else. Have you even ever kept maroon clownfish? I separated them many times trying to pair them. No disease. The female is now with another male who was also hard to pair with but eventually she took to him.
We must be looking at different video, I clearly see the Male is lighter then the female. The point is you should have taken the Male out or return to fish store.
@@sho21gun1 One is a female and one is an immature male of course they are different colours. What kind of monster takes a sick fish to a fish store ? (fish was not sick, injured yes, sick no). There isn't a brick and mortar store setup to treat sick fish anywhere? At home I have medication to treat ick, velvet, brook, flukes, internal parasites and more. More importantly I have the ability to isolate and treat sick fish at home which a fish store does not.
A separation such that the male can enter and leave the female’s space as he wishes, implemented using an eggcrate, is suggested in: „Clownfishes: A Guide to Their Captive Care, Breeding & Natural History“ Taschenbuch - 1. Januar 1998
von Joyce D. Wilkerson (Author), Thomas A. Frakes (Foreword)
They were paired years ago and have produced hundreds of babies.
I had no problem pairing my maroons... I had heard all the stories of maroon clown aggression and planned on that being the case. For me it was as simple as hanging a breeder box in the tank on her side right near the anemone with a MUCH smaller maroon. Sure enough she was not happy and attacked the box with him in it. Fortunately for me, and probably for him, the little male instinctively knew to submit, even through the box. This went on for days and honestly I thought it may not work. However days passed and her aggression subsided and she almost seemed to approach the box with some interest rather than aggression at some point... Finally I decided it was time to see if they were ready and released him into the tank where she immediately allowed him into her anemone after a quick submissive gesture. The rest is history.
There was a lot of submission going on but she just kept beating him up. Hoping to get another male in a few months. It will be interesting to see if shes better or worse now that she's spent several months living alone.
Hey mate I’m looking to buy a new small male to pair with my gold lightning maroon, how do you know if the second little clown is a male or not? Any other tips would be appreciated
Get one as small as you can. Hopefully that'll make her less likely to kill it as it is much smaller and not competing for dominance with her. Smaller ones are males. When you pick one out make sure its not overly aggressive or dominant to other tank mates.
there are no other fish in the tank to spread a bit the aggression and attention of the female. For example yellow tale damsels, other damsels, chromis, perhaps some surgeons, even a mirror …
Try 3-4 small maroon clowns at one time with her. My female kept the male hemmed up until she got ready to lay her first set of eggs. I also got them a bubble tip anemone. When she started getting to spot ready for eggs, the male became more aggressive and she has accepted him. Now they both hang out in the 2 rose bubble tip anemone. I would not advise putting her in a larger tank with other fish unless they are bigger and on the aggressive side. She will beat the crap out of them…
@@dianeblake8505 she has produced at least 1000 babies with her new mate and some of those babies have reached maturity as well even some are already females laying eggs. They still live with a gem tang a marine betta a mandarin and 2 banggai’s the only fighting is with the gem tang who has a strange obsession with hanging out with the maroons.
They have no anemone
Rarely do I keep anemones with clowns, exception being wild caught ones sometimes.
If the female had an anemone I think that she would go less after the male.@@captivebredcanada
I've had success by adding the smaller fish into the display tank, allowing him to set up territory, then adding ♀ a month later. Granted I've only done it once, maybe i had a comparable pair to begin with.
I thought about this, but the one problem is you wait too long and the male becomes female. Additionally I don't think this had anything to do with territory as soon as they saw each other she went at him. Even though shes in the tank now she would be easy to catch and try and add a new male first. Thanks for the advice.
Good luck!
He may been to young or not submitting enough, usually once the male shows signs of fighting back instead of turning on his side and submitting it usually goes bad 😆 The male must submit always
Average Reef - Any updates? Have you tried again. I understand that if you do try, you'll want to move the female to the QT at the same time as you introduce the male. If you introduce him to her territory, he'll be fish sticks. I ordered a larger gold striped maroon and a smaller lightning maroon and they showed some of the same behavior as yours did - but they now seem to be getting a long. They both spend the days in the back of the tank clearing out the sand - one mouthful at a time. At feeding time, he stays back there and she roams the tank - so I spot feed him. At some point, I will add a BTA - so they hopefully stop kicking up the sand. Every now and then, out of the blue, she knocks the snot out of him - he fights back - then they get back to work on the sand. It is very interesting - she is definitely the boss. Also - My male has the same lighter colors as yours did. Very good looking fish. They will darken as they get larger.
I have two big lightnings and two regular clowns in there as well couple babies none of them are fighting breeding tanks are stressful for the fish not well setup not comfortable for the fish it stresses them out so they get aggressive they do good in a well setup tank with plenty of corals and hideouts
Can a maroon cohabitate with an orchid dottyback or is that a bad idea? I have a 25 gallon tank and these would probably be my only fish (along with shrimp, crab, snail, etc)
Maybe. They are mean but can live with other fish. I would give it a go but be prepared to move one if need be.
I had the same reaction except the male maroon was completely gone when I left the house for a single day.
Great video..i just tried pairing my lighting marron clown with another lighting marron clown..she beat him up pretty good...how long should i keep him in a breeders box..any advice is much appreciated
I'm currently dealing with the same situation. I purchased two lightning maroons for $80. They have a noticable size difference and my male is doing everything right as far as body language, but the female wants to murder him lol what I'm currently doing now is keeping the male in a breeder box for a week and feeding them multiple times a day and then at the end of the week in the morning I'll let him out without turning the lights on so the female is not as alert. But she still ends up abusing him to the point where I have to put him back in. They're going to get a large upgrade soon to a 300 Gallon system, so I think that'll be plenty enough space for them to figure it out with no interference
I guess the reality is they may never get along.
@@captivebredcanada Yup. With any clownfish it's hit or miss. Before I had a female percula and let me tell you she ran the tank. I had to return two male clownfish because she wasn't having it lol It can be done though, I have a friend that has a breeding pair of maroons. His advice was to take them out of the community tank and put them in their own tank so they could figure each other out, but I don't want too many tanks in the house. I'm just going to try again when I do the upgrade.
@@captivebredcanada ruclips.net/video/ooJyCQI-CCw/видео.html
What's been going on with my fish (:
Use a box
Is the breeding setup just an empty tank with an air bubbler and heater? Do I need a filter for it?
For the fry? See the videos I have made. Initially you start with a very slow bubble rate, you can't use any filter as it will suck them up. When they get bigger you can add filters. I use marine pure gems as well for extra filtration.
You're doing it wrong. These fish need as natural an environment as you can provide them. Live rock, soft corals, live gravel, and especially an anemone are huge helps. A natural environment gives them something to do other than pick on one another, particularly if an anemone is present. Introduce the female to the tank first. After it has settled in, rearrange the rocks in the tank to break up its territory, then introduce the male, and let them settle back into the new environment. Once the anemone accepts them both, (and they are both covered with its stinging cells) they should get along.
You couldn't be more wrong. First of all at the time of quarantining these fish they had never seen rock, corals, sand or anything like that. None of those things are going to change how they interact with each other. Fish, especially clownfish don't need "something to do". Also good luck rearranging a settled aquascape with rocks cemented or otherwise secured in place.
In the years since this video the female has produced 100s of babies with her new male who was introduced in a similar fashion.
May b try to put a bigger male.Something that doesn't look too small to her like a meal or someone she can bully!!!
Where can I get one one of these lightning maroons?
They are pretty readily available these days..
Reef Beauties have great fish and great prices!
You should have taken him out. SMH
size too big
You have a Instagram? My maroons finally paired! I wanna show ya lol
I don't. Upload a video on youtube!
@@captivebredcanada deal 🤙🏾
Why would you have left him in there to eventually be killed when you saw signs of them not becoming a pair very evidently? Very sad. Clowns will generally immediately pair up or pair up within hours. You left them together for how long without seeing them pair up?
That is not true at all for maroons. It takes a long time to pair them. I have since successfully paired her with another male. It again took many attempts and variations of catching the male, then the female ect.
What was this guy looking at, the fish lost color and still he kept it in the tank. What you have done is leave the fish at the store
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
@@captivebredcanada you didn't see the colors of fish, he was dying and you just let the female kill it.
@@sho21gun1 There was no loss of colour. He was dying from the female nothing else. Have you even ever kept maroon clownfish? I separated them many times trying to pair them. No disease. The female is now with another male who was also hard to pair with but eventually she took to him.
We must be looking at different video, I clearly see the Male is lighter then the female. The point is you should have taken the Male out or return to fish store.
@@sho21gun1 One is a female and one is an immature male of course they are different colours. What kind of monster takes a sick fish to a fish store ? (fish was not sick, injured yes, sick no). There isn't a brick and mortar store setup to treat sick fish anywhere? At home I have medication to treat ick, velvet, brook, flukes, internal parasites and more. More importantly I have the ability to isolate and treat sick fish at home which a fish store does not.