Prejudice - People Watching Season 2, Episode 6
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When Jeremy said “Well, I think you’re just the kind of person who’s smart enough to be really good at any job and that kinda means you can never be defined by what you do” I fell for him a lil more 💞
as a straight man, I would've kissed him there and then
Hardcore, that was swoon
The script writing for this is just so... above. To force me to actually piece together the awkward pauses and later find out the one character who points out common prejudice is actually displaying it unintentionally.... I legit need more of this!!
Above? It's just vomiting 12 year olds Philosophy Every damn sentence.
Damn... what the hell kind of 12-year-olds do you hang out with? Cuz the ones I hang out with are really fucking stupid.
It's like not having to listen to the notes but the quiet spaces in between to make the music make sense
Right? I remember a saying, cos it was said to me: When you point a finger at someone else, there are four fingers pointing at you!
@Andro mache What the fuck is this sentence
She didnt read his profile.
But he read hers.
No, she said i read it. The first part the introduction about being transgender.
@@nostalgia1036 didn't the way she said she did tho kind of seem like she didn't. I mean we watched her only go into the chatroom and say "hey this guy doesn't look so bad" even though its what she complained about.
That's what makes it even more sad. Even though Candy did the exact same thing to Jeremy that she hates people do to her they still are compatible. They both have similar interests and think the same way. Candy even quoted something that was on Jeremy's page even though she didn't see it. Prejudice, man...shit.
Plant Ball I understand it shouldn’t matter how you meet the person or why you wanted to meet them in the first place (if you can get past it) and not totally give the person a chance you might end up being happy. Trust Me I know.
Yeah. She didn’t.
One thing I love about this series is how expressive the characters can be even without saying anything. The first time Jeremy shows that being told he's "special" is really hurting him at the restaurant it becomes apparent that he feels uncomfortable with her placing of him on a pedestal for the fact that's he's trans. If you remember that he said that he was trans back in season 1, he dosen't need to say anything to immediatley show what he's thinking, it's practically written out in black and white with such a simple movement.
Do you remember which episode he disclosed he was trans? I forgot.
@@cordyb He never outright says it, but S1E10 has several mirrored shots of him before and after transitioning
@@ColonelAftershock ahh yes I remember
I think a bo Burnham quote fits perfectly here, "You've become everything you hated, are you happy?"
William Davis Also the song 'lower your expectations' would be good for both of these characters, I'd say. So what if someone judges you *at first* for something trivial? Get effing real, that's how first dates are supposed to work. The problem is when they aren't capable of expanding their view of you as they get to know you better. That was not the case here.
@@FemkevanDrooge exactly. You start forming opinions about someone as soon as you get just a bit of information about them, it's just human nature.
Appeal to human nature...
No really though you dont have to form an opinion right away. I tend to wait for more information. I try to avoid the "First impression" trap.
Yes, yes I am 😂🖤
When I read that I heard his voice
Why did they give us what we wanted and take it away so fast
Because it life ... real life problems ...not fairy tales ... no happy ending not in the first try at least
mick yevengich e
A day they build us up too!
It wouldn’t hurt as much if they didn’t know how it meant for us
FORREAL
The moment he asked her if she was dating him because he was transgender really caught me by surprise. It actually makes a lot of sense, especially when it came to his shyness about intimacy. I do feel he was a bit too quick consider a relationship with the girl a lost cause. The fact that it didn't matter that he is trans and how much they had in common says a lot about her. Sometimes people are awkward around someone who's different but that usually passes. Like for example I have this friend who's blind from one eye and has a scar, although at first that was the one thing I noticed about him eventually I got used to it and don't even think about it anymore.
I think the point is that he didn't want it to say a lot about her. It was insulting to him that she implied that it took "courage" to date him.
She decided to date him only because he’s trans, so clearly it did matter.
You can also hide a lot of your fear inside the veil of being offended. If you knew your rejection was just a matter of time, why not exaggerate your offendedness to end it before it gets too painful. If you're really determined to find someone in a sea of people that don't get you, sometimes you can do a little overlooking of small details. Like at least she is trying to be open minded instead of she perceives me different than a normal man and that is not okay.
When watching the episode I couldn't help but notice the small details that was hinting towards this bad ending. For example when he kept mentioning his profile and she admits she didn't read it all. This showed that she basically did the very same thing she was complaining about at the beginning about being judged on how she looks and being a stripper. From his point of view its like she only saw and decided to date him cuz she saw his profile as transgender. From his view its like she didn't really want him for who he is as a person since she didn't really bother to read the full profile. She just saw transgender and thought this guy is courageous just cuz he admits it. In the end transgender is basically a label just as much as stripper is a label for her
@@Artemis820 Yeah, totally. Being trans and being a stripper can be an important part of your identity, but there’s more to you than that. Also hi lmao old PW fan just crying at the fact we don’t have a season 3
This honestly just seems like it’d be a show on Netflix
This needs to be a Netflix Show
Damn I've been rooting for them since episode 1
Same!
SAME MAN I WAS CHEERING THE SECOND I SAW THEM TOGETHER!!!
And like, I get it... I get why he decided to leave... But like - could we just give her a second chance? Just this once? Or at least become friends? I don't know... This just broke my heart to see
SAME HERE
Christina TnT Ross That's right! You tell Kitsune King that saying "MAN" to brooklyn560 was ASSUMING HIS GENDER and a horrible slur! What a Nazi!
What hurts me the most about this is that Candy's reasoning for asking Jeremy out probably wasn't even a conscious thought. Prejudice isn't always actively malicious, sometimes it's just a filter that your mind views the world through, and it'll affect your judgement given certain information. And sometimes you just don't know how that filter can hurt other people, people who just might be the best people in your life, until it's too late.
I think about this topic a lot, and I'm happy a show like People Watching can explore this and so many other subjects the way it does. Great work, everybody, this season has been stellar 👌
This was beautiful!
Completely. I’ve never really voiced it, but that’s a thought I’ve always had the back of my mind. A lot of times judgement, malice, and bad decisions aren’t done because they’re an evil person, sometimes it’s just... instinctive? Compulsive? It’s not a deliberate choice with the intention of screwing someone over basically. And we often don’t even realize we’ve done it until it’s too late, if ever.
Cerina Shippey No, she _did_ ask him out because he was trans, that’s the whole issue. Part of the entire point of the video was that Candy realized that she was a hypocrite. She was talking about how she was bothered because even people who didn’t want to get into her pants often went out with her in order to prove that they’re “progressive” enough to date a stripper, and that they weren’t necessarily being malicious, but the idea of being reminded that you don’t fit in with a conventional mold gets tiresome, and inadvertently, that’s exactly what she did to him. She asked him out because while she may have legitimately liked him, it was in large part because he was trans. Notice how Candy often isn’t aware of details he has on his profile, and at one point, even admits she didn’t read it, presumably because his being trans was good enough for her, or how she goes on and on about “how amazing it is you can be yourself” which is again, clearly referencing the fact that he was trans, as well as possibly alluding to the other things he mentioned. It’s subtle, but a lot of the intricacies of Candy’s dialogue very much points to the fact that his being trans was a major contributor to why she asked him out, which isn’t to say she didn’t legitimately like him, because clearly she did, but then you go back to the whole issue of constantly being reminded you’re different, and whether or not she meant to, she made him feel different by always reminding him how _amazing_ it was that he was open with how different he was, and when reading his profile, ignoring every other significant quality. That’s the point.
ChaosMyth1012 not to mention their reaction when she says stuff about not seeing part of their profile and stuff like they get awkward and a bit down each time until eventually climaxing with the question so there’s even more subtle touches
ZandyrWolf I
as a trans guy that's scared shitless about dating, this hits me hard lol. I never thought I could put into words how paranoid I am about being judged solely on the fact that I still have female parts and all that bullshit. I really do wish that we see more between the two of them because it made me so happy that they met again after that blind date episode.
I mean, don't get me wrong but sex is a big part of a relationship and it's near impossible to change your sexual orientation. Female parts do make a big difference,if you are expecting or into Male ones. But that's just me, feel free to correct me.
My point is that it does make a big difference and it's hard because you can miss out on some nice romantic relationships. Some people only see me for my genitalia and makes me super conflicted on how I should present myself while I'm going out with people. I get fetishized on some dating platforms while others are using me to like experiment their own sexuality. The number of guys that describe themselves as "discreet" and try to get in my pants because I still have a vag is disconcerting and incredibly draining. Kind of in the same way Jeremy visibly showed how tired he was in this episode.
Oh, no! Talk about feelings from a man, in the comments beneath a show about talking about feelings and gender equality? HOW COULD IT HAVE COME TO THIS? (Seriously, by your standards, who in this show isn't a pussy?)
No, but on the actual topic, what you're saying is understandable, Belq. It's not necessarily about somebody's genital preference - it's about whether they see you as a whole person, or as a set of parts, specifically because you're trans. Sure, it sucks when you're gay and the person you like is straight - but this isn't that. This is the straight person coming onto the trans guy because they view him as a set of parts instead of a full person, filled with complexities, hopes, dreams, interests, quirks, whatever. And that's not a good basis for a relationship. Nobody wants to be reduced.
Honestly, if you do (online dating specifically), (and please note, this very well could be terrible advice, idk), if I were you, I wouldn't put that you're trans on your profile, but I would let anyone you're genuinely interested in know before the first date. That way:
1) you know they aren't just interested in you because you're trans, because they didn't know when they messaged you, but
2) you still don't have to deal with anyone who is going to have a problem with your identity, because if they don't like it, they leave before the first date
She's right though the only way i see people get out of that situation is by becoming tougher. And not complaining. I don't like to tell people that because it sounds harsh but it's the only way. I had a friend who was like that and all complaining did was make it worse. You start by doing whats best for you and feeling good about it. And get angry more. Anger keeps us alive and confident. And they just want us to listen but listening doesn't fucking fix it. They don't want to fix it as long as the have some one to feed them sympathy. And that's the biggest problem. They think having a shoulder to cry on is good but then they abuse it and it becomes all the time. They start craving your sympathy without realizing it and they can't help it. Until they realize that their doing it that is. Please don't be like me and wait until it's too late to tell them what they should consider doing to help themselves.
So jumping back real quick to kind of see where the damage was done, I realize it's the moment she says she could either be Lady or the Tramp. Sure, for her it's either a fine lady or a tramp, but to Jeremy it could also be taken to be about the characters in the movie (which he quoted which led to this exchange) and that could remind him of the transgender issue but also make her seem potentially into trans as a fetish. Not that that is enough, but I would say that's the first hickup
Yes but he mentioned the movie about the dogs and spaghetti.
I think it was at 8:40 .
9:30 was the clincher. She didn’t know a joke he’d written about, betraying the fact that _she_ didn’t read the profile.
@@BlackCover95 well that was more the final straw, I think op was talking about trying to find where the doubt in his mind about her started
Also she mentioned a lot about how he was "brave" and he was.... "oh no..."
years later upon rewatch and forgetting the events of this episode, I winced at that line
Damn. How relatable to accidentally become that which you despise. I hope he gives her a second chance.
Crystal Agnew GOD me too
totally agree, but i don't think he should give her a second chance. what she did was wrong and it just sucks :/
What she did is what she hates shallow men doing to her, being satisfied with a surface image and not digging deeper. This flip of the mirror could make her a more empathetic and aware partner.
Wait, what exactly did she do?
@@niaranoctyrna3754 She didn't read the profile, she judged him on the first few lines and didn't dig deeper. The same thing she was mad about other men doing to her
You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly sir
Agreed
Like... every episode? Haha
Florance Sweetcrest oh that Tinny Tim lol I miss that show, I wonder if we can get them to revive it one more time lol
Jove Joved i like that you think you’re so funny that you decided to spam this on almost every comment. Not to disappoint you, but it’s not that funny
Lilla Louis It applied to all of the comments in question.
there are porn caves, they've found ancient Egyptian caves with hieroglyphs and paintings of sexual situations
N u t
They also have em in Pompeii. Well, not exactly "caves" per se, but dwellings with wall-to-wall erotica
lmao good to know
So…where are these caves? I’m, um, an anthropologist.
@@karma901 Tut'nutt'n
Oh come on, People Watching. Why can't you let them be happy for one solid minute? 😑
Notice how she subconsciously did the same thing she was complaining about in the beginning of the video.
...that was literally the entire point
But she's a woman and can do no wrong? Is that how this logic works?
Literally just the entire reason for the episode WHOOSH
@@JM-bb8xi boy fuck outta here with your dumb ass bad faith arguments
@@JM-bb8xi lol right though vagina powers activate
We've damaged ourselves so badly that even good people can't find connections. We're so afraid of getting hurt, we've got so much scar tissue from the wounds we've taken, that we can't connect. The expectation of being hurt is so high that we'd rather be lonely than take one more risk. Sad but so very very true.
My problem is worrying about hurting others. It's unusual that I really fall for someone, and... Not that I'm all selfless and shit, but if it were just my feelings, it's worth the risk of getting hurt to me. But when I have to let someone else down, I feel horrible. It's hard to be upfront about it. The result is, I rarely go on dates, because I start out with this feeling like it's not going to happen, and then I feel like I'm just leading them on out of my own because I'm too uncomfortable to turn them down That having been said... I'm not so sure this is a bad thing, ,because my feelings about nothing happening are almost always right. Dating feel so forced and artificial to me; I've become interested in someone that way exactly once. All the other times, it's been from getting to know someone as friends, just being ourselves, talking and goofing around in a casual setting, no expectations or pressure.
Ohh man you say it !
I hate you because you are right...
Bro if this isn’t the truest thing I’ve ever read then idk what is because I haven’t dated anyone in 3 years and then A couple months ago I finally get the courage/strength to ask a girl out and a couple weeks ago I find out she’s talking to someone else while dating me, and even tho we haven’t dated long I’m completely devastated because I finally let somebody in after all this time and thought I really had someone who felt the same way about me and then it all gets taken away and I’m back to being completely alone and I feel so stupid for even trying again
Damage implies that you can be fixed or healed.
The way the ginger doesn't make eye contact is so revealing- gosh
"Maybe you should judge books by their cover"
Is that not the most Ironic statement ever.
7:48
Its where the title is...
We were rooting for you, we were all rooting for you!
Wow, didn't see that twist coming.
Was wondering why he was so uncomfortable. Had to re-watch the entire video.
I think we saw in an earlier video that he was transgender.
@@marcellXcatalyst If so, I just didn't remember.
I didn’t see him as uncomfortable. He judged her because she didn’t memorize his dating profile says more about him than it does about her. It’s sad that they are both really good people.
I guess it shows that we all bring our own baggage into relationships.
Tania Espinosa I think the point I got from it was that, while she was accusing everyone of only wanting to date her because of her picture and that she's hot, she briefly looked at this guy's profile, apparently read that he was transgender because he had that upfront, and saw his picture, and... didn't find out anything more about him.
Then he started realising though they seemed to have a connection, she didn't seem to have tried to find out anything about him beyond the picture and that he's trans, hence his discomfort.
Basically, she bitched people judge books by the cover, reducing people down to a token, and then did exactly that to him. It really hurt him... and then after she of course realised what she'd done, and how she'd sorta sabotaged what sort of connection they could have had.
I love that about this series. The characters are all really flawed, and they're all trying to learn and better themselves. They're trying to be good people, but sometimes they don't manage it.
@@SanguinaryBlade thanks for explaining. Those points apparently went over my head and I didn't understand why he turned so quickly.
this isn't "comedy" it's social commentary. it's very good. thank you for making this effort. thank you very much for putting thought into a show that's touching and relevant.
They both think too much.
Eva Mapianda rather pretentious too
Strega 0 it’s appropriate for their age though
That's why we like them, though.
i think that's what makes them compatible
@@cassualtea2040 yea look at the 1st episode ppl are turned off by her snarky bs
*2 minutes in*
Everyone: "About damn time they find each other!"
*people remember it is People Watching*
*7-8 minutes later*
Everyone: "GODDAMMIT CRACKED"
Not Cracked; People Watching. Cracked wanted to cancel it, but this is the best content they've ever had.
Yes! I let my guard down and bam! Everytime
The actual group that makes People Watching is actually called Subnormality. It's also a webcomic that's really interesting
@@mattregan6128 did not know that, thanks!
Nah, it's "Fuck you, Winston Roundtree".
I love the level of introspection in this series. It's always so beautiful to see that someone in the world is able to take the thoughts you couldn't form or hadn't thought of and put them into a collection of sentences that somehow sound more surreal outloud than in your head. The people who write the show really get the bigger picture
I feel completely the same
Jove Joved why are you so angry? You’re in almost every comment thread spamming this. Who hurt you?
Very well said, you found all the words I was too lazy to type.... Thanks
Q R If you don't like the joke, that's cool. But it wasn't told out of anger. Pointing out things logically and humorously doesn't equal "anger". Not sure why the left have such a hard time with that. lol
"...put them into a collection of sentences that somehow sound more surreal out loud than in your head." Even this sentence sounds more surreal while reading it than in my head, because that's exactly how I feel.
When you rewatch it after knowing what happens in the end, it helps you pick up on all the stuff they hint at.
I feel like this a reflection of humanity honestly. Sometimes if you take a moment to think of your own personality or listen to yourself you sometimes find things you hate that other people do you do yourself. She hated that cavemen hit her up because of one reason, then she pulls a caveman move and picks a person for one reason. She just assumed he 'was the type' she kept saying that and I felt like what does that mean? Just like people think she is the type, and in the end she even categorized her own self she wanted to be a marine biologist and felt like she was a sex tube. She was on caveman mentality because in a way she was too. I watched this without knowing about the trans fact and it just sounded like she didn't even take time to know anything about him, especially when he kept saying this was in my profile.
At first I didn't think this episode was really going anywhere. Everything changed the moment that Jeremy brought up his gender. Dude, like fuck, this series makes me look at the world in a new light every single time I watch it and I'm so thankful that art like this exists.
It's like, this episode made me rethink not only how I should view my "progressive" views, but also how hollow my compliments can be. There needs to be depth in what we say, we need to look further than the first two layers of skin and see beyond. It's one thing to want to be in a relationship, and it's another to be infatuated with an idea. It's a third when you can see WHY someone is special to you and what makes them matter to you
M E T H
@@thesssradio5008 you like meth? lol
I was so happy to finally see them together but damn this hurt. I thought it would end up being the case where he kept the fact that he's transgender away from her until the end of the date then tell her, hoping she would be ok with it or something. The fact that she only read a few lines, saw that he was and immediatly messaged is just wow. She basically did what the other guys were doing to her and didn't really care much about who he was and more about what he was. I think it's tough for good people to find others similar to them because there's so much expectations wether negative or positive and one ends up hurting the other and adding to the scars.
it can happen to just about anyone because regardless of how well-intentioned we try to be, we have our biases and we unfortunately can feel challenged when something goes against them. a bit of a truth on my end, i can get really peeved if i hear someone speaking in a ghetto accent or dialect usually because it sounds so inefficient and stupid. does it mean the person with said accent is indeed stupid? absolutely not, but it's something i look out for due to my own bias and i know by admitting this, it can put me in hot water, but i only do it to put perspective
We live in a pussy generation. Because we can't be brave and take the hits life hit you with
Yeah us trans people tend to disclose that pretty quick. At least she read that far. Most men who message me don't. Now i'm conditioned to disclose a second time every time and its really annoying when they say they didn't know.
Why would he keep that quiet? Did you even watch the pilot?
Spoiler spoiler SPOILER
You know, when I first saw it, I only noticed Candy's slips at the end of the date, but like, she does slip constantly, putting her foot in her mouth from 'the lady and the tramp' joke on
Ok, the third or fourth time around I am actually noticing them too and i kind of understand the lady and the tramp joke, but not fully. could you explain?
@@n.fer.2596 'I can either be lady or the tramp, your call' Candy obviously was making a dig at herself and at her job, being able to be the tramp, however it can be misconstrued and uncomfortable for Jeremy as he is ftm, because in that scenario she's calling him a 'lady'. 😂 Maybe I'm looking in too deep but he does seem uncomfortable.
Miranda Ibarlucea I think you’re right there. What I’m trying to figure out though is if she did that on purpose, or her clairifying that she could be either one was her drawing attention to him being ftm, so that he wouldn’t have the be “Lady.”
@@n.fer.2596 I wanna think she was nervous and did it on accident. But it is kinda uncomfortable to think that she might have done the joke on purpose and thought it was funny.
Miranda Ibarlucea Agreed. Thanks for helping clarify!
*This is like a weird deep talk at 12 am. I like it. While I read. Makes me feel nice.*
i never forgot these two characters and i was really invested in this so i cried.
it was really subtle, that twist where I kind of thought he hadn't put his trans status on his profile and you thought the reason it wouldn't work out was because she didn't know about it. shit it didnt work out because she DID know about it.? no do-overs though? too real.
FINALLY! I was waiting for them to meet up since that blind date episode
Most call that the pilot
Sammmmmeeeeeeeee
Ugh, I know right!
I love how she’s reading a different book every 5 seconds
I didn’t understand this when I first watched it, but being in a relationship with a good man made me realize how jaded everyone is by peoples intentions.
Love People Watching, but I want to scream each time I hear a character say 'yeah, for sure'.
Because...?
I just assumed it's a Canadian thing.
Oh yeah for sure I want to do that too
And the ''god speed''
Right I just want one real fasho
Finally they return.... *I NEEDED ANOTHER HIT OF THAT GOOD STUFF*
Eiichiro Oda oh shit, Goda? What are you doing here? Go back to writing one piece. We need to know what happens next.
BigBlueDrew97 Gear 6th
Exactly. Ex-freaking-actual
I see you all over OP theory videos but never here :O . Who would've thought that Goda loved People Watching too
MOOD
Man, what's the word for when the right piece of media hits you at the right moment in your life to just stab your heart
i feel like looking at her comments in a vacuum can be misleading, creating a sense of prejudice in the audience for the moment, as the things she says out of context would be mistaken as her going for him because he's trans, for examples of this look at the scene where they're walking, in the scene prior (eluded to mere minutes before) he kisses her and then when walking he confesses to liking her, even going as far to admit to being sauced, in this context saying what she said makes sense.
turning the critical eye to him you can kind of see this sense of trans prejudice, in which trans individuals (me included, not gonna lie and say i haven't had a similar experience) mistake lines or comments as essentially jabs at our being transness, leading him to take her comments out of context, further leading to him making the accusation that he does at the end.
which topically brings us to the scene where he asks her if she dated him because he's trans, which as she admitted she was already anxious, an accusatory question like that would lead to a reaction like that in people with anxiety, as it did.
which brings us to the last shot, him already on his phone looking for someone else and her crying, meanwhile her monologue from the beginning continues, she uses the same book cover line then that she used earlier in the episode, except this is before the events of the dates and the separation.
looking back at episode one and just how similar the two characters are, the way they talk about things, their own intellectual affinity, hell look at her body language look at the way she looks at him, she didn't go on a date with him because he's trans, but that doesn't matter because prejudice has led him to believe that.
(edited to fix typos)
Thank you! This is the form of prejudice that I got from it, and I haven't seen anyone else that seems to agree.
She did only go on a date with him because he was trans though. She didn't read his profile, or look more into him like she would have done had he not been trans.
Yes they hit it off, but she only put in the effort to do that because she fetishized him already, thinking he was going to be better BECAUSE he was trans, not because they had anything in common.
She put no thought into who he was or what he liked. It is the same as someone only agreeing to date her because she is attractive. They don't care what she likes or thinks and long as she's hot.
It's degrading, and I don't blame him for leaving. He wants someone to like him for him, not just what he is.
@@chris887799 can you give me a source from the material for that other than his accusation?
(2 years alter)
Yes, it could be interpreted as such. However, she clearly focuses on him being trans. Her first slip-up is when saying they could play the Lady and the Tramp and she could be the tramp, suggesting Jeremy could be the Lady; then it's a downhill accumulation of comparison between Jeremy and "other guys" (the cavemen) that completely skips Jeremy himself while focusing on the image she has of him. She didn't read his profile, didn't know about Calvin & Hobbes, didn't know about the matching quote, didn't compliment anything else than his courage for being upfront with his identity. Line after line she insists on how he's different while never asking anything personal. It's a one-sided sequence of vain assumptions.
So of course he would be back on his phone looking, because that's far from the first time it happened to him and it shows. Meanwhile, Candy is crying because it's the first time she realizes she projected on someone else the prejudice she's always been subjected to. She doesn't only mourn the failed date, she cries over how her own principles are defined by those she despises (as highlighted by the voice-over and the lines on good people). It's crushing because, as you mentioned, there is chemistry and they both look attracted to each other, but there's no way with her current lack of awareness Candy could make this work. Maybe another day, in another dimension, where People Watching had a third season.
@@sybilcollas Well.. he thinks he's different because of how much they got along in the date right? What she knows about him so far that seem very telling of who he is. But then again she did say she "smiled" when she met him. After reading just the top of his profile. But still she clearly likes him for other reasons that just "he's such a strong person for being different"
Profile pictures and gender identification being two sides of the same coin regarding, "don't judge a book by it's cover" was an awesome simile. I know this show doesn't really have, "Happy endings" but I hope they find each other again. One can make a bad call and learn from it. As long as we make an effort to learn from our mistakes we can all be, "better people".
How does the guy identify at first he seemed straight to me, I just don't see how he is trans.
Truth of the matter is it shouldn't matter. She viewed him through a narrow lense and that's the reason she agreed to go on a date. Just like people were doing to her when she put up her picture. Or the when she stated that some people only messaged her because they thought it would be "progressive" not taking anything else into account. But to answer your question, in a prior episode you see him start out as a woman and transition into a man.
@@TheMightyEskimo I dont remember that which episode, I always thought he was a guy though, well I guess he is a guy now
@@thesssradio5008 at some point in an epsiode (i dont remeber wich one) you see him when he was still a female with the same color hair and tatoos but as a woman. They barly put it in and i barely caught it
Omg I wanted them together from the episode of speed dating 😠😭
The banter between Candy & the girl at the beginning "I was expecting someone I could talk about cats with!" Priceless. 😅
I watched this when it came out and I hadn't started dating yet. Fast forward to now when I've dated and this hits in a WHOLE different way. Still cry everytime 😭
I'm genuinely so glad this series is still going and I hate that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves. You guys are doing amazing please keep up the good work
have you ever checked out the creator's Twitter page? they (?) have less than a thousand followers. That is just criminal!!
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Sometimes I feel recognition is bad. I mean this show pretty dope and I would love them to have better ratings so they can make more season, but at same time if the accomplish that they might go into this mainstream level in society where people just see it under a superficial POV. Idk I guess I’m saying from that point can go either way
@@berble8402 I definitely feel that I dislike most mainstream media nowadays
Noooooo. I really hoped for a good end...
KindHrt77 I know but I had high hopes tho 😂 I didn't expected it to be anything else but what it is
@@perrystranger7407 what about the Teacher episode it ended well
animeviewer66 sure, that ended well but I didn't expected this one to end well, cause I feel like this show is here to make you think, so if this would have just ended all happy I wouldn't, you know?
Can someone please explain to me why it ended sad they seem so happy and it like was fine and then I must’ve missed something I don’t understand
It feels like she reached out to him because he's transgender, not because she wants to seem progressive, but because they would have overlapping experiences. I think it's more productive to accept that people stereotype you, that you stereotype others, but also be prepared for when that illusion shatters.
Yes, but then talks over doesn't care and makes it about her while signaling she wants to dig on other guys. If not trans this is where he would put out the friendzone accusation or similar.
Feeling devalued as a utility and overdubbed. And in the trans issue and much worse. Then again always thought too judgemental and abrasive. Then here off her alt self episode. Couldn't be in a room of her without going on the attack.
Hence dislike. She is so quick on everyone's problems and okay know overpaid but victim mentality.
I get annoyed of her or at least figure too much baggage as to hook up or romance to keep going. Hell when called out she keeps up her front. If pulled back and fessed up maybe give ground. But"confidence"
Watching this 3-4 years later and it’s still really good
Literally how
This is how it feels being the “black friend” in overwhelmingly white communities(if u know u know lol).
People interact with you differently and for different reasons, even if it’s only slightly and even if they have the best intentions. I guess it’s frustrating because the whole point of the civil rights, BLM etc is that we are all equal and unique, but that “uniqueness” is often translated to “different” or “outcast” and being equal is nothing more than a concept because you’re not treated equally. Shows how reducing someone to a label wether in a positive or negative way is inherently dehumanising.
Why can’t we stop trying to decipher people through outdated social contexts or any context at all, and allowing people’s characteristics to speak for itself without the need to “understand” everybody within the limits of our perspective?
Morgan Freeman during an interview said that the key to defeating racism is to stop talking about. Stop talking about white men and black men and just talk about men. If we focus on black history "for a single month" that disassociates it from American history (which is pretty insulting cause all of "black history" in my experience is just american history). I didn't learn about apartheid until I was in high school and that's fucking black history.
TheSuicidalGiraffe shut up.
@@oliviaaa4765 always glad to welcome constructive discussion.
The problem is the as a race, humans are programmed to recognize patterns. It is what allows us to develop language and even solve the mysteries of the universe. We are, however, flawed in this regard. We see people with long/short hair, their gender, and their skin color and we try and tie it to things. We mix causations with correlation and we treat people differently due do this. We still have segregation today even if it isn't enforced through law. For example, many black people live in poor neighborhoods, not because they are stupider, but because they were born there. Their parents, living there for the same reason all the way back to the originally released slaves who had nothing. They stay there because they are poor. Not because they are stupider, but because their local schools have poor funding due to their location. They don't receive the education they need to grow into the smart adults they could be. People have identified the differences this causes and tied it to black people instead of the actual root cause. This is then shared online and through media and is taught to those who don't know many black people. They then hear the other side about being progressive and recognizing you as a person, and try and do just that only to fail. They try so hard to treat you as an equal that they treat you as something different. As an outsider.
The problem is we are pre-programmed to understand people through outdated social contexts as those are what we are programmed to identify. It is because we are imperfect humans. This isn't an excuse not to overcome this. This is just an explanation. I am not an expert on this, so take what I say with a spoon full of salt. I just hope what I said can help you understand why this is happening, you as in everyone reading this so that we all can find a way to fix this. Like making public schools funded through a single fund, not through neighborhood taxes.
Thank you for reading my two cents on the matter.
Honestly, I become uncomfortable because being white I'm worried that *I'll* be judged. Some of my closest friends have gotten sincerely angry with me over a Star Wars joke because they thought I was making a racial joke when I was referring to their specific violent/emperor-of-the-world sense of humor. IDK the situation with your friends, but their difference in treatment might stem from that perspective too.
Something interesting that I've noticed, I'm more comfortable with people who were raised in non-western countries than with fellow Americans. I wonder if the lingering bad blood between racial groups in the US is mostly just scar tissue if that makes any sense.
So the morale of this is people that you've objectified, even if they are being put on a high pedestal, would rather feel a sincere connection to you.
That's going to be something hard to swallow for Candy.
A stripper, not a hooker.
I actually think that the guy also gives us a moral. Don’t label YOURSELF. Like, you can lost connections, friends and happiness if you let not only people around think with prejudice about you, but also YOU prejudice you. If there’s this one different thing about you, it’s not the whole you. I hardly can think that Candy wanted to date him BECAUSE he was a transgender lol.
@@imheretofindasmr8990 yeah people don't just change their sexuality just to look progressive.
I'm pretty sure it's just the insecurity in their minds telling them reasons why this person doesn't actually care for them.
12:35 Notice the signs said "please move to the back", "keep moving back please", and at the end "thanks for actually moving back."
Joan sat somewhere between the last two is a metaphor.
when can we have season 3 tho...
Bro...I have no words. And the moral is very true too; I’ve noticed it generally in life, not just in dating
peacemakerao I think I’ve missed the moral...would you mind helping me out?
Niara Noctyrna sure 😀 it’s basically about objectification. In just the same way that all the creeps were only approaching Candy (the stripper) online because she’s attractive, Candy herself only approached the trans guy (I forget his/her name) mostly because he was trans.
They mirrored these stories well when they had Candy’s rant about being objectified early in the episode playing over Candy crying on the bus realising she had been rejected for treating another human being the same way the creeps online had treated her.
The whole story is especially heartbreaking when you remember the speed-dating episode in season 1 which pretty much set these two up as a perfect couple (they even referenced this same episode in a few lines).
The moral is basically just to be aware of how we treat each other and mindful that each person is more than the surface level features we deem them to be when we first meet.
Or at least that’s how I understood it anyway 🤷♂️
I agree and have to say/add to the breakdown that real life sucks it's not a Fairy tale ending not most or all of the time we rush and think we have the same goals or same aspects but ...
peacemakerao Ah thanks. That helps a lot.
NO! NO NO NO NO. YOU MAKE THEM TURN AROUND AND COME BACK. DONT YOU DO THIS TO ME!!!
Oh sure, that's what you want to happen, but is that what would really happen?
I'm in the same boat. I'm not sure if the boat is sinking or not, however.
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I honestly needed this. There was that split second where it gave me hope and I'm holding onto it. I was actually really upset because I was thinking about how there seems to be nobody for me. Thank you cracked.
The song that starts playing at 9:32 is "In Your Wake" by Mattie Leon
Seeing Candy crying is heartbreaking :(
Where did she cry.
Dang, really important message about projections right there. I love the episodes that I have to watch twice to get all the context.
I LEGIT ALMOST CRIED
YALL HAD NO RIGHT OMG
Man. All these episodes hit me like a ton of bricks. Discussing real life current dilemmas. Every episode pictures EXACTLY what I think of society, love, life and death, etc. Keep em coming.
I got excited as I was watching going "Yes! Finally.". But then the title of the video. Prejudice. Then just. Aw man.
Damn it I was rooting for them to find each other.
Just when i thought this was the end of the series. What's that word for when something good happens just as you're about to give up?
I keep coming back to this series and each time it hits me differently and each time I notice something else and each time it moves me in a different way. I'll just have to wait and see how it continues to develop.
You bastards sunk the ship. How dare
Ok. She needs a second chance. People make mistakes and they can learn from them but oh my THEY HAVE TO WORK OUT
He wants a lover not an opportunity to be a life lesson. Also candy getting a little of hers back. My issue was she was dominating the conversation with herself...about people don't see or listen to her. Typical
@@manticoraus Lovers aren't perfect. I think it's horrible for people to believe others will just NEVER make mistakes in your presence. When you're married you're going to have to deal with yourself and your lover making mistake after mistake for it to work. Also.. I don't know about dominating. Didn't she listen to a lot of his opinions too?
@@shannenlibres2365 there's a difference between a harmless mistake and only seeing someone for their body. I've had people treat me this way as a trans man and they don't stop seeing me that way, so I stopped giving second chances. Think about how many times you have to have that happen before you stop giving that, because it's probably a lot more then you think it is.
This series is inspiring to me. Thank you Cracked. I've been a fan for years.
Damn, seen Candy cry at the end just broke my heart. I really love this show, man.
Why does almost every episode makes me cry but still love this series to death ❤😭
Jasu K Pretty sure People Watching gets paid per tear.
All the little real-time references in the animation about what's happening like the sign reading "If you were really into each other you'd be too distracted to stop here." It's nice to see an animation showing at the same time as telling.
Wow. This is incredible! Thanks for producing this, Cracked!
I had no idea Jeremy was trans! Do they mention that in another episode?
yeah, they show it in the nostalgia episode and it can breifly be seen in the friends episode
@@samaxion93 time stamps/ what scenes?
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 he appears as a woman and then 30 seconds later he appears as a man with the exact same outfit
So if she asked him out for the wrong reason...but then they genuinely have a good time and are vibing with each other and are interested in what the other has to say on a deeper level, doesn't that kind of make it okay?
I dunno. Maybe I'm being overly feminist here, but I'm considering her situation and her (implied, unknown to what extent) negative experiences with cishet men.
I think a lot of cishet women assume that dating a trans guy might be better because he's been through a lot but has good traits like: being progressive, understanding what it's like to live as a woman in society, and experiences of being bullied that have left him more likely to be sensitive and considerate.
Like the video addressed, it's a weird "positive stereotype" that's actually bad. Like "Asians are good at math."
So while I agree that in a sense she messed up, I also feel like the two of them had bonded so amazingly at that point that it shouldn't have been undone by her being subconsciously affected by stereotypes, on a dating site.
"Subconsciously affected by stereotypes," when you're only seeing a picture and bio of someone, is pretty much all that your brain can do, no?
I don't know...I could see that if someone fetishized their date it would be a problem, but if being trans was just one of the many things about him that piqued her interest or seemed like a positive, is that really so bad?
I'd love to debate this more!! Sorry this comment is so long
Are you sure he was a women, he seems straight.
well its perfectly fine to not want to date someone because you dont think your beliefs can coexist in a relarionship
Interesting. Food for thought. Thanks for sharing!
@James Furey I'm just not sure how he identifies is what I meant I dunno it was late at night when I said that and I wasn't thinking clearly
1. When the subject matter is debate worthy never apologize for long comments, they're exactly what discussions in comments are for.
2. She was so focused on one aspect of him that she didn't see much else. It's like he said "being called brave over and over again" isn't what anyone wants. The ideal is to be recognised as a partner or an equal or someone that is liked as a person with a myriad of different reasonings behind that positive opinion. On that date she called him awesome over and over again for one reason. They were getting along but by the time they left the first venue he was uncomfortable because she clearly just liked him for being trans. That's not an equal or partner, she's a cheerleader, he's a titan. You don't want to constantly have someone singing your praises for just existing, you want respect that is earned, love that is grown, and strength that discovered. She walked into that date saying he's perfect and he didn't even do anything. That's too akward for words, that's like a stalker only a stalker would know more about you. She hardly even read his profile.
Joy!!!! I was afraid this was over
it's totally over, they just already had this season paid for when they nixed the rest of the video dept.
Do you know if cracked owns the IP? maybe they can continue in another channel?
Erik Gaillard yeah kinda like how Some News kept going under a different name
Me too
Man, I discovered this show just today and I love it. Great work people, keep it up!
Damn, this hit me like a ton of bricks. As a trans person just starting to get into the dating scene, this is... wildly terrifying. I hope we can get to that hypothetical world where it's only the ideas inside our heads that we connect with.
It’s been a year, I hope it went well
María Marta Vlcek it has, actually! Still feels early going, and the virus has made things difficult, but me and my boyfriend are making it work.
@@MineNOROfficial even if we are strangers on the net I'm so happy for you, a good new always makes me smile
I know this is an old comment, but I hope its working out now
I wanted these two to get together so badly ever since the speed dating episode
Bout effing time!!
Edit: well that was unexpectedly expected. This series tends to have shitty endings for the cast. Sometimes. But that lovely. In a sad, eye opening way
This video opened my eyes. And has made me think about something I never really thought about.
They really just murdered and gutted our ship right then and there didnt they
I love how detailed are the animations :D
Haven't even finished the vid but omfg finally! Been waiting for them to meet for so long!
EDIT: YOU COULDN'T LET ME FRIGGIN HAVE THIS ONE THING, PEOPLE WATCHING?? GODDAMMIT!
You poor thing
When he said he was trans somehow I knew.. ever since that confession booth episode.. when she felt loss for words.. I felt that.. the fact that the dude is so guarded makes sense.. and by the end I was crying.. this series is so far ahead of our time it's so hard to predict where it's going sometimes.
god, i love this series so much. it's not always this amazing, but when it hits it really hits. and it hurts so much when it hits
I've just cried... Man you guys are doing a great show!
I'm really happy for Joan I wonder who it's gonna be... 3:38 OMG OMG! DOn't play with me! they better be on the same damn date!
I can’t wait for the next episode, this series is something I live for
It puts me back to myself, i feel human again and understanding and calm and am okay with how things are I hope this continues cause it helped me grow as a person from episode 1 season 1
I am so happy that this series got a season 2 because it really means everything to me
Is it me or does this show keep getting better and better each episode? I didn't see that twist coming but it flowed so well and it really made it a great episode! I can't wait for more episodes!
I love how this series is written in a way that anyone can relate to at least one thing in each episode.
They finally met!
Watched the whole episode... Don't know why I'm crying in the club right now.
arru23 I just thought this is so depressing. Then I realized I skipped ahead, and need to watch some prior episodes. But, it may be depressing, today it’s less depressing than the actual news. I keep living 1982 over and over again. I was date raped that year. I will be glad when this Supreme Court thing is over.
pretty sure they already met in the episode where she spends a long time in the hospital without visitors. She's talking to someone about the experience afterwards at a coffee shop called the "Inexpensive Diner" I think, and that's where he works. They seemed on social but not quite friendly terms, but this was something different.
Love this series
This is something you need to watch twice to really get how the whole script came together.
Great episode, I’m glad they finally met. I hope he gives her another chance.
I haven't even watched the video yet (Im in public without earbuds) but YAY!! A NEW PEOPLE WATCHING VID!!
Get your feels ready
it literally made my day. I kept going back to check if there was a new episode every other day..Finally!
When you comment before the storm lmao
Candy liked the transgender part, yet was so happy to see that she was also interested in their similarities in liking the same books and etc. If Candy only liked the transgender part and they were an asshole or normal she probably wouldn't have been able to talk as much to them, although the pedestal she puts them on for choosing to be transgender may be a problem. What makes someone different isn't just their ideas and philosophies, it's their choices which are indicative of those ideas and philosophies. Strong choices like choosing to defy their assigned gender signals to Candy the person she's looking for is more likely found in them. I say them because I don't for the life of me remember the other characters name.
This series always hits home
I love this series so god damn much, and this ep hit so hard!
You can't be afraid to put yourself out there. You can't be afraid to be yourself. All you can do is say, "Hello, World. This is who I am."
Yes, rejection and heartache hurt like hell but instead of being ashamed of losing you should be happy that you were willing to give it everything you had. It's never a waste of time and you will always be a better person for it.
It's so important to keep trying. Persistence means that you actually want to be happy and self-confidence means that you are willing to put up with whatever it takes to get there. Essentially, be yourself love yourself and you will find someone who will love you too.
this is like the sixth episode i've seen total..
now i just automatically Like and Save to my Favorites playlist before i even hit Play
i love and appreciate everyone who was involved with this show.
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Halfway through this, I suddenly thought "There's no way this has a happy ending"... I wish I hadn't been right