DPS Showdown! Wanderer vs Xiao - The OLD vs the NEW! Genshin Impact

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июн 2024
  • It's finally time for another DPS Showdown! It's been a hot minute since I've done one of these and what better one to make than for our two 5 star anemo dps characters, Xiao and Wanderer!
    Huge thanks to Shintenzu for all his help with Xiao in Abyss 12. Check out his channel and subscribe!
    / @shintenzux
    0:00 | Builds and Disclaimers
    2:25 | Volunteer 1
    3:26 | Volunteer 2
    4:59 | Volunteer 3
    6:19 | Volunteer 4
    7:50 | Volunteer 5
    9:15 | Volunteer 6
    13:43 | Summary and Closing Statements
    #genshin #genshinimpact #wanderer
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  • @IWinToLose
    @IWinToLose  Год назад +250

    Huge thanks to Shintenzu for all his help with Xiao in Abyss 12. Check out his channel and subscribe!
    www.youtube.com/@Shintenzux
    Sorry guys, I've been recovering from some kind of cold so uploads have been a bit slow. Next video will be a THIS TYPE OF CHALLENGE VIDEO vs the new 12-3-1 Jadebloom Terrorshroom!

    • @foxzillax5745
      @foxzillax5745 Год назад +3

      Will you make a video on C6 Faruzan?

    • @demonicflame632
      @demonicflame632 Год назад +1

      We need a THIS TYPE OF CHALLENGE VIDEO playlist please 🙏🏻

    • @Jay-xu7ln
      @Jay-xu7ln Год назад +7

      I hope you recover soon :D
      Also looking forward for more of your vodeos

    • @Shintenzux
      @Shintenzux Год назад +14

      Thanks for having me :D

    • @AstxnD
      @AstxnD Год назад

      Man i been watching u for a year and today i come to know that u have a son!!?

  • @debamchakraborty1143
    @debamchakraborty1143 Год назад +2847

    I would had loved to see a C0 showcase since xiao constellations are pretty negligible compared to wanderer. Also the dps would have been more relatable.

    • @littleboss2006
      @littleboss2006 Год назад +217

      Yeah, Xiao C1 and C6 increase DMG but situational. Overall wanderer better kits design while Xiao C2,C4 is just so his issue is minimal.

    • @demon-reaper1265
      @demon-reaper1265 Год назад +341

      Yeah... relatable... as a f2p I also like using my c4 Jean, r5 FS and c6 r5 elegy Faruzan with my c0 xiao...

    • @B_R_U_H14
      @B_R_U_H14 Год назад +13

      @@demon-reaper1265 😆

    • @MrHav1k
      @MrHav1k Год назад +84

      Agreed. Xiao was designed before a time when they made the C6s stupid OP

    • @EclipseSeth
      @EclipseSeth Год назад +44

      He cannot disable cons, so it would be C6 xiao Vs c0 wanderer.

  • @daria88602
    @daria88602 Год назад +1701

    it would be nice to see a C0 comparison between these two

    • @everythinggirl1559
      @everythinggirl1559 Год назад +91

      Too bad you can't turn off constalations

    • @ziebus904
      @ziebus904 Год назад +182

      The funny part is that xiao would win and it would not be close

    • @dxstopia
      @dxstopia Год назад +1

      right

    • @phunghieu7093
      @phunghieu7093 Год назад +29

      @@ziebus904 4 of Xiao's constellation is useless tho(Xiao's E scale so bad so C3 is also useless, i accept C1 because it help battery tho)

    • @fanto860
      @fanto860 Год назад +67

      @@phunghieu7093 Yes but overall Xiao is still objectively the stronger dps

  • @radosam8415
    @radosam8415 Год назад +1546

    Whenever Xiao's HP falls below 50%, he will get a 100% DEF bonus.

    • @lyon7218
      @lyon7218 Год назад +89

      Very noice

    • @muslimrafi275
      @muslimrafi275 Год назад +231

      Thats rediculously strong

    • @pclfld8253
      @pclfld8253 Год назад +259

      i mean, all hyv needs to do to redeem this badly designed c4 is to change literally only 2 letters... DEF to DMG... is that even hard hyv smh

    • @elloygarcia8155
      @elloygarcia8155 Год назад +151

      The most broken cons in genshin (literally)

    • @villvbeloved
      @villvbeloved Год назад +34

      we know,, thats his awful c4

  • @jasonfox6932
    @jasonfox6932 Год назад +778

    The biggest thing I can tell holding Xiao back isn't his damage numbers, it's the amount of time it takes to do multiple plunge attacks vs wanderer who normal attack spams. I'm really impressed with Xiao's performance here.

    • @arshiya379
      @arshiya379 Год назад +101

      Well they have different kit💀 if Xiao had the same atk speed as wanderer it would be ridiculous and "balance" exist

    • @lizzyleea
      @lizzyleea Год назад +7

      @@arshiya379 tru

    • @ghotifish1838
      @ghotifish1838 Год назад +62

      the biggest thing that is holding xiao back is that when u have a showdown between 2 c6 units that both have godly artifacts, everything still dies too fast (I mean, just look at that lvl 100 aeonblight drake comparison, I struggle to take it down with a FULL TEAM in under 90 seconds), so naturally whoever has the lowest delay between attacks would come out on top. In an endurance test between xiao and wanderer, I reckon the latter would come out on top.

    • @hulahupjingga
      @hulahupjingga Год назад +19

      @@arshiya379 there nothing more ridiculus than yelan c6

    • @arshiya379
      @arshiya379 Год назад

      @@hulahupjingga I didn't talk about cons

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 Год назад +317

    Considering Xiao's C2 and C4 is basically useless, it's still good to see him perform this good (technically Shintenzu brings that out).

    • @ghotifish1838
      @ghotifish1838 Год назад +31

      i love me that +100% DEF lol. Honestly I think the idea of that being a constellation is justified since its more dangerous to be onfield doing damage if your health is that low. Unfortunately, just like for hutao, zhongli exists lol

    • @luismarques5386
      @luismarques5386 Год назад +9

      C3 and C5 are also basically useless, with his C1 being just "yeah, better than nothing".

    • @IceKnight678
      @IceKnight678 Год назад +15

      @@ghotifish1838 Def not justified as a constellation unless its on a character like itto

    • @kibathefang6022
      @kibathefang6022 Год назад +9

      Maybe 100% Resistance to interruption instead of 100% Defense is better. Makes you able to go without a shield so long as you have Bennett you're good.
      C1 works only if you need just 2 rotations, but something that you can work around with. An extra 2 or 3 particles can be solved by other units. The constellation upgrade for the skill is meh as it would only truly see significant change when you have C6. As for the burst upgrade constellation, he already has so much dmg bonus that it barely gives more damage. You don't go for that constellation because if you ever spend, you go for C6 all the way. But C6 makes that burst constellation nearly insignificant because you'll then be spamming skills, not plunges. As for that ER bonus when off field, that is also freaking stupid. Why the heck would we even want Xiao off field when catching particles? It's the same level of useless as the Defense buff.
      If I were to get constellations, make one of them
      "Plunge attacks will decrease enemies defense by 30%."
      And the other would be
      "For every enemy hit with a plunge attack, restores 2 energy to Xiao. Maximum energy restored up to 20 energy."

    • @Godsthetics
      @Godsthetics Год назад +3

      @@kibathefang6022 Yeah well... good thoughts but it's clear that the constellations were more hit or miss during the starting era of Genshin than currently.
      Look at Albedo C4 and C6. As if Albedo would be the dedicated shielder for Xiao or something. Not to mention nearly all of Venti's constellations or Qiqi's.

  • @hriata168
    @hriata168 Год назад +630

    Shintenzu is absolutely cracked with his Xiao mechanics, very impressive

    • @tonykowalski4189
      @tonykowalski4189 Год назад +20

      I always thought Genshin is a casual game, but the likes of Shintenzu and Wallenstein keep reminding me that casual doesn't equal low mechanic

  • @EvilMain24
    @EvilMain24 Год назад +314

    I hope there's a C0 DPS showdown of them as well.

    • @2crisp63
      @2crisp63 Год назад +44

      well a bit late now lmao

    • @Yuzuripe
      @Yuzuripe Год назад +25

      @@2crisp63 or you could always search from other channels tho

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +8

      Can't undo C6 characters

    • @Kunoichi4ever4
      @Kunoichi4ever4 Год назад

      there is if you search the internet and all of them are won by Xiao...which no surprise since he at c6 isnt really that different from c0

    • @springsnow2286
      @springsnow2286 Год назад +2

      @@Yuzuripe need to search for channels that have relatively the same stats, though, which is harder to do.
      he could also borrow someone else's account with c0 wanderer and c0 xiao, though.

  • @ungabunga3143
    @ungabunga3143 Год назад +125

    Xiao might stand a chance if Mihoyo fix his C4 to increasing 100% atk or even 50-70%, instead of Def

    • @ZIKCIV
      @ZIKCIV Год назад +27

      Hoyo forgot that genshin have healer / shield character 😂

    • @ocean7790
      @ocean7790 Год назад +52

      Well tbh, mihoyo could fix many characters like this

    • @justsam4321
      @justsam4321 Год назад +2

      @@ocean7790 Xinyan

    • @marcuschiong306
      @marcuschiong306 Год назад +10

      or swapped it with albedo's c4

  • @debamchakraborty1143
    @debamchakraborty1143 Год назад +408

    Going from one hill peak to another within 5-10 seconds by flying instead of taking a detour and climbing just hits different.

    • @Jdogrey1
      @Jdogrey1 Год назад +12

      To be fair, Xiao can do this to an extent as well.

    • @_hector__
      @_hector__ Год назад +71

      @@Jdogrey1 No.

    • @ocean7790
      @ocean7790 Год назад +23

      @@Jdogrey1 no

    • @meowsymcmeow7438
      @meowsymcmeow7438 Год назад +45

      @@Jdogrey1 no, it feels WAY different with wanderer

    • @Jdogrey1
      @Jdogrey1 Год назад +7

      @@meowsymcmeow7438 well, obviously, but Xiao can still theoretically do it.

  • @dhruvrakkesh
    @dhruvrakkesh Год назад +516

    Kinda crazy how Xiao with barely any useful cons (C1 just 1 dash, C6 useless in single target) can still catch up with Wanderer with many useful cons.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +188

      Yeah crazy how badly designed Xiao's constellation and gameplay are, thanks Hoyo.

    • @ocean7790
      @ocean7790 Год назад +96

      Yeah crazy how xiao's constellations are comparable to standard banner character cons

    • @ocean7790
      @ocean7790 Год назад +139

      @@haruyanto8085 tbh Xiao is a preety old character, but hyv loved designing him, i have read how much inspiration the Dev's took to make xiao in a dev blog

    • @TheReaIestOne
      @TheReaIestOne Год назад +42

      Imagine if xiao had some thought put behind his constellations.

    • @TsunaXZ
      @TsunaXZ Год назад +66

      @@ocean7790 Yeah they did some good work on character design, not so much in his kit design though.

  • @MrHav1k
    @MrHav1k Год назад +403

    Xiao did really well I think when you consider that he was designed around the launch of the game before Hoyo began making C6s so ridiculously OP.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +20

      That just means for dolphins and whales, Wanderer is a better option

    • @sunnysunday2299
      @sunnysunday2299 Год назад +30

      Well if new player ask me they want anemo dps, I'd recommend Wanderer over Xiao. Why? The answer is he is easier to build. Even Lost Prayers, Widsith and Skyward are as good as his bis weapon and he is fun as hell so you can assure they will enjoy this game.

    • @volodyan7780
      @volodyan7780 Год назад +34

      @@sunnysunday2299 i mean xiao signature literally standart weapon.
      his cons are garbage, and he has at least somwhat uniqe gameplay, when scara literally yoimiya 2.0.
      I have both of them, and i cant tell, that for casual overworld scara is much better, but for dungeons and abyss xiao > scara (esp at c0r1)

    • @damonn6755
      @damonn6755 Год назад +47

      @@volodyan7780 dang I never knew yoimiya could fly

    • @volodyan7780
      @volodyan7780 Год назад +11

      @@damonn6755 yeah when you NA spam at Y2 its entirely new gameplay comparing to NA spam at Y0 xD

  • @centin9315
    @centin9315 Год назад +45

    “Xiao is using a fairly standard Xiao build”
    Ah yes, the fairly standard R5 Staff of Homa

    • @Unwebonnn
      @Unwebonnn Год назад +2

      wdym you don't have an R5 staff of homa?

    • @lighty2884
      @lighty2884 11 месяцев назад +1

      Oh shit, now I noticed it he have r5.
      Yeah, really standard xiao build that everyone probably have.

  • @yufakhattak336
    @yufakhattak336 Год назад +29

    We wish you a speedy recovery and thanks for making this video. ✨👍

  • @shiningsun4023
    @shiningsun4023 Год назад +9

    I love your videos man. Thanks foir putting so much effort into em! I appreciate it!
    And get better soon! Much love from germany!

  • @chozfafnir911
    @chozfafnir911 Год назад +203

    Honestly surprised how well xiao did compared to a newer five star. Although let’s be honest, shintenzu is just built different.

    • @zen1981
      @zen1981 Год назад +21

      Hoyoverse intentionally make new chars almost equal to old chars in power level so that those old char banners can still generate some revenue…
      Examples: many people think Kazuha powercrept Venti. But that’s not true he his own value and still his banner generate good amounts of revenue.

    • @Kunoichi4ever4
      @Kunoichi4ever4 Год назад +10

      lets not foget that the guys couldn t compare c0s, which we all knowthat 5/6 cons of Xiao are not even imprving his damge and c6 is conditional so in many cases we got a showcase of c0 Xiao vs higher constellations of Wanderer.

    • @slampest
      @slampest Год назад +8

      @@Kunoichi4ever4 not really. His c6 is incredible.

    • @ToruFx
      @ToruFx Год назад +4

      @@slampest he means it isn’t as big of a damage increase as wanderer’s c6

    • @josebaltoomarnilson4762
      @josebaltoomarnilson4762 Год назад +5

      @@slampest its really average

  • @diogoschneider2479
    @diogoschneider2479 Год назад +176

    Xiao is AOE king while Wanderer is more versatile and better at single target, both are good but I still prefer Wanderer for the ease to slot him in many comps and the ability to deal with more enemies better

    • @joeltoomer3332
      @joeltoomer3332 Год назад +17

      Tartag is the aoe king

    • @saerin9181
      @saerin9181 Год назад +48

      @@joeltoomer3332 were not talking bout him ತ⁠_⁠ʖ⁠ತ

    • @diogoschneider2479
      @diogoschneider2479 Год назад +15

      @@joeltoomer3332 true, but I was comparing anemo DPS lol (tartag is everything king 🙏)

    • @CRITRATIO
      @CRITRATIO Год назад +2

      @@joeltoomer3332 yea he even can wipe out AZDAHA WITH HIS WHALE BURST.

    • @bootao1671
      @bootao1671 Год назад

      @@joeltoomer3332 no

  • @shadowroxili123
    @shadowroxili123 Год назад +14

    i think my favourite part of these dps showcase/showdowns with xiao is getting to see shintenzhu play xiao so precise and efficiently its breathtaking

  • @josepzenda795
    @josepzenda795 Месяц назад

    I've watched alot of your videos and they keep getting better. You just earned yourself a Sub

  • @user-me1mv4vy9q
    @user-me1mv4vy9q Год назад +196

    Would love to see heizou and itto thrown into the comparison

    • @drea4pres970
      @drea4pres970 Год назад +50

      Lol can’t set up my boy Heizo like that

    • @FunkyEspelhoCat
      @FunkyEspelhoCat Год назад

      Why itto?

    • @matteofaccin6636
      @matteofaccin6636 Год назад +15

      Against C6 5 stars? No shot. If they were all C0 tho, that'd be interesting to see

    • @Tik_Tak
      @Tik_Tak Год назад +7

      @@FunkyEspelhoCat because they both have a skill nuke “itto’s cow and heizou’s punch” also probably why he said “thrown into” a well placed pun on their skills

    • @MohitSinghania1611
      @MohitSinghania1611 Год назад +3

      Mono geo slaps scara

  • @guntenshi3268
    @guntenshi3268 Год назад +21

    As a Xiao main, I know Xiao will lose even before watching this. But I'm impressed how his Xiao cleared that flying chicken 👏

  • @WarrXIII
    @WarrXIII Год назад +72

    Xiao's only problem is that jumping in the game takes too damn long.

    • @asmrslol848
      @asmrslol848 Год назад +38

      They nerfed his jumping speed, cause in beta it was faster D:

    • @BulletSponge71436
      @BulletSponge71436 Год назад +20

      It's not about jumping speed. He's still jumping up and down very fast. And he's more of a "nuke" character, he's supposed to be somewhat "slow" since he deals such high amounts of damage with each plunge attack.

    • @lizzyleea
      @lizzyleea Год назад

      @@BulletSponge71436 very tru

    • @feiht5487
      @feiht5487 Год назад

      duh let it be as if

  • @thehellbruh6740
    @thehellbruh6740 Год назад +21

    It was epic to see wanderer and xiao on their full potential with exceptionally built supports, but it would be nice to see what I would be able to achieve with them as an f2p with minimal resources and decent supports

  • @IGoByRocky
    @IGoByRocky Год назад +63

    Great video as always! Id love to see how he compares to other normal attackers like yoimiya, ayato and maybe even yelan at c6🤔

    • @debamchakraborty1143
      @debamchakraborty1143 Год назад +16

      I wanted see wanderer against childe just because I wanted to see how he fares against his fellow harbinger.

    • @midwestairway
      @midwestairway Год назад +1

      Yoimiya wins all day

    • @nightwingdark8785
      @nightwingdark8785 Год назад +1

      Yoi is the best when it comes to just gunning down everything in sight

    • @rezzarafhan2882
      @rezzarafhan2882 Год назад +5

      sorry but yelan solo

    • @Trey_Black
      @Trey_Black Год назад +17

      Pretty sure c6 Yelan would make them eat dust lol

  • @Grapejellyification
    @Grapejellyification Год назад +8

    would be cool to see the same DPS test with C0 wanderer and C6 wanderer to show what to expect vs the Xiao.

  • @kirbsbakery2787
    @kirbsbakery2787 Год назад +61

    I think a dps showdown between C6 heizou and C0 scaramouche wouldve also been an interesting video

    • @CRITRATIO
      @CRITRATIO Год назад +2

      C6 heizou with 4p THUNDERING FURRY🤯

    • @BulletSponge71436
      @BulletSponge71436 Год назад +1

      @@CRITRATIO Why TF? Why this set?

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +6

      @@BulletSponge71436 it decreases skill cd

  • @TheBraveCupcake
    @TheBraveCupcake Год назад

    OMG TY SO MUCH BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS FOR WEEKS

  • @123456789Brho0omy
    @123456789Brho0omy Год назад +1

    This channel is everything thing i want in life i love your content man

  • @Doctor_Faust17
    @Doctor_Faust17 Год назад +79

    I love how after all of these showcases and DPS comparisons people still refuse to acknowledge that Wanderer is a pretty good unit smh. I don't wanna argue who is a better character between Xiao and Wanderer since they are pretty much on the same level but dang just accept that Scaramouche isn't a total dissapointment of a unit

    • @markjunlibrado9664
      @markjunlibrado9664 Год назад +28

      That is... If you pay his copies

    • @meowsymcmeow7438
      @meowsymcmeow7438 Год назад +45

      @@markjunlibrado9664 No?? There’s plenty of C0 wanderer clears already posted and he clears abyss fine. He doesn’t need cons to be usable/good. (while having overworld utility & comfort on top of that)

    • @eeshu8290
      @eeshu8290 Год назад +44

      ​@@meowsymcmeow7438 brother even yanfei clears abyss fine...its just that he is not that good at c0 even zajeff stated him as 2/3rd of xiao at c0.....but yes he doesn’t need cons to be usable/good

    • @deninin
      @deninin Год назад +10

      RIGHT!! i play in raiden coop for fun and whenever i bring my (admittedly pretty bad cause i got him a few days ago and still don't have a good 4pc shimenawa) wanderer some petty mfs always decide to bring heizou or xiao to feel superior to me cause they have the "better" anemo unit. jokes on them they always end up dying and i end up carrying usually with another teammate that's a healer or buffer or something similar

    • @velgard.
      @velgard. Год назад

      Wanderer cons are huge at c0 he is so way worse than xiao and xiao himself is also mid so take that into considaration

  • @IIIEPJIOK221b
    @IIIEPJIOK221b Год назад +16

    Xiao still does a great job. Pretty sufficient for Spiral Abyss even nowadays. While Scaranara provides fresh gameplay and makes exploration even more enjoyable.

  • @valmadf
    @valmadf Год назад

    I've been waiting for this for so long

  • @blackpearl8191
    @blackpearl8191 Год назад +1

    Bruh I waited for this an eternity. Thanks iwtl.😊

  • @seviyasouji
    @seviyasouji Год назад +16

    I would’ve liked to see a comparison between these two AND Heizou. Guessing it wouldn’t be fair to compare them since Heizou is 4 star.

    • @WinterSWW
      @WinterSWW 10 месяцев назад

      Some do c0xiao, c0 wanderer with a c6 heizou i guess

  • @suijin3176
    @suijin3176 Год назад +4

    Great video :3, also, it would be great if we could see a C0 showdown :)

  • @andinh135
    @andinh135 Год назад

    I have been waiting for this

  • @hiteshparchani1456
    @hiteshparchani1456 Год назад

    Thank you man! FINALLY!!!
    Get well soon man!

  • @Kunoichi4ever4
    @Kunoichi4ever4 Год назад +10

    Ima say what Mihoyo doesnt want us to hear - they designed wanderer to be contellations dependent, unlike Xiao.
    Unless you wanna wahle roll the character that is complete at c0 - Xiao.

  • @squandilefingernut3974
    @squandilefingernut3974 Год назад +9

    i feel like wander did more damage not because it was a better build but because he can put more damage output in a smaller amount of time because he is a catalyst and his weapon boosts atk speed

  • @shantirowleyart
    @shantirowleyart Год назад

    Really like your videos very helpful

  • @JCipher2752
    @JCipher2752 Год назад +1

    Yea been waiting for this soo long. A true anemo boys dps battle

  • @grentreem3096
    @grentreem3096 Год назад +7

    2:36 I was watching this in x2 speed and Wanderer being a machine gun was funny as I've never seen him in action before 😂

  • @osuueii
    @osuueii Год назад +20

    PLEASE ITTO VS XIAO!!!!
    now that xiao got his dedicated buff, i think it is good idea to do itto vs xiao

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 Год назад +1

      YES

    • @eeshu8290
      @eeshu8290 Год назад +3

      at c6 man it will be tough for xiao to win but at c0 that would be interesting

    • @osuueii
      @osuueii Год назад +5

      @@eeshu8290 well only for single target since Xiao isn’t build for single target

    • @elloygarcia8155
      @elloygarcia8155 Год назад +2

      its already a clear win, c6 faru gives 40% anemo shred and crit dmg while gorou only gives crit dmg

    • @insertgenerichannelname
      @insertgenerichannelname Год назад +5

      @@elloygarcia8155 i wouldn't be so sure of that. While +def isn't the same as anemo shred, you still have to take in consideration Xiao Doo Doo water constellations against Itto relatively better cons

  • @LeoLikesLamb
    @LeoLikesLamb Год назад +1

    Your videos butter my biscuits thank you

  • @smr010
    @smr010 Год назад +2

    I usually don't hype these character showdowns, but this one is soooo good!

  • @what-you-want-of-me-yt
    @what-you-want-of-me-yt Год назад +3

    A bit dissapointed about not gaving C0 showcase, I wanted C0 Scara vs C6 Heyzo, but I really enjoyed this one as well.
    Especially I enjoyed how smooth gameplay for both characters was. Enjoyable runs, good representation

  • @hupmem
    @hupmem Год назад +29

    Every time you say "my son" it tends to hit me every time

  • @yanxingchin1007
    @yanxingchin1007 Год назад

    I have waited this for so long

  • @ritk2506
    @ritk2506 Год назад +1

    Waiting for it 🔥♥️

  • @Frannzzzz
    @Frannzzzz Год назад +11

    guess ei is proud her son is better than zhongli’s son :3

  • @Keiki-kun
    @Keiki-kun Год назад +45

    my boy Xiao still keep up even after 2 years

    • @batch9518
      @batch9518 Год назад +10

      barely

    • @Keiki-kun
      @Keiki-kun Год назад +40

      @@batch9518 he was doing great before but now with a dedicated support he is on the same level as the current characters not everyone can deal more than 90k every hit

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 Год назад +7

      it shows how well hyv is at keeping genshin a balanced game

    • @eeshu8290
      @eeshu8290 Год назад +14

      @@batch9518 bruh the showcase is with c6 at c0 they are both the same sometimes even better than wanderer

    • @sshk1653
      @sshk1653 Год назад +3

      No other character can deal with shields better than xiao.. I mean no one not even kazuha..

  • @larkaiio3376
    @larkaiio3376 Год назад +1

    can u make a guide on optimal rotation on wonderer? honestly don't know when it's better to dash and when it 's better to just keep attacking, and do I spam attacks or charged attacks? and how does that change when bennet or faruzan get involved and how does that change with his c1 and yeah, if u could I would be very grateful as your guides are always very thorough and helpful

  • @av3ries
    @av3ries Год назад

    wishing u a speedy recovery soon

  • @sylent0253
    @sylent0253 Год назад +4

    This just exastrubates how new 5 stars have such an insane difference between c0 and c6 whereas old ones are at 90% of their power at c0
    c0 xiao vs wanderer would be such an insane landslide victory for xiao , and c6 wandrer is pulling ahead so much with his 6 raw dmg constelations.

  • @NewWave3313
    @NewWave3313 Год назад +12

    I got my Scara to C6 and when I saw his Burst hitting for 80-90k, 5 times, I knew he was my new main DPS haha. He just attacks so fast with his normal evaporating enemies, it’s fun to see.

    • @thefreaks8926
      @thefreaks8926 Год назад +1

      I’d hope he would become your new main dps considering you c6 him lol

  • @pankace3296
    @pankace3296 Год назад +2

    Shintenzu is a god when it comes to Xiao. Always love seeing him, even if it makes me feel like I've only scratched the surface.

  • @raphasage
    @raphasage Год назад

    I let the video play and while i was writiing about that weird voice you just answered it right away! Hpe you get better soon. much love from brazil!

  • @aijaratustra
    @aijaratustra Год назад +3

    I believe you can do 15% more damage with wanderer, if you dash after every 2nd attack??

  • @Jdogrey1
    @Jdogrey1 Год назад +15

    So... Where C6 Nahida DPS showdown? I think it would be really cool to see how she does against Yelan, who has a similar C6. It could also be great to test their support as well.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +13

      C6 Yelan is still gonna win, C6 Nahida's attacks are too slow, but yeah I'd like to see where C6 Yelan stands

    • @joshuamiller4227
      @joshuamiller4227 Год назад +6

      Also, Nahida said it herself. She sucks at combat. Great support, but she ain't winning no fights playing hopscotch with the enemy

    • @Kaiji...
      @Kaiji... Год назад +1

      C6 Yelan is literally God, easily the most OP in all of Genshin. She will likely be the #1 forever too if they keep making balanced characters.

    • @snowlynx1585
      @snowlynx1585 Год назад +2

      @@joshuamiller4227 Keyword: C6. Nahida easily does 100k+ normals with C6 not to mention her E doing a ton of damage too

    • @barreltitor1419
      @barreltitor1419 Год назад

      not to mention Nahida TKP larger AoE up to 5 targets i think? and because genshin is team based as well id love to see the clear times with their best teams

  • @thanhnam7037
    @thanhnam7037 7 месяцев назад

    Nice video. Can you show your Bennett, Faruzan and Jean build? I have a C4 Jean and I want to use a team comp like yours

  • @jacestarwin4014
    @jacestarwin4014 Год назад

    Good video. Can you do another DPS showdown between C6 Yelan, C6 Wander, and C6 Hutao?

  • @ahrenortile8909
    @ahrenortile8909 Год назад +4

    Wanderer might have one of t he strongest constellations no? Nuke Potential burst and an extra attack with c6.

  • @alphaweeb8580
    @alphaweeb8580 Год назад +3

    I want to see a dps showdown between mother and son.

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss Год назад +1

    Great video as always, I just wish you add C0 comparison with 4 star weapon even if it is just the math and not showcase
    I just got C6 Faruzan after 235 pull and my c0 r1 Xiao can now plunge for 100k which is cool and my Wanderer hit 20-25k/normal but he is still only at all lvl 6 talent while my Xiao is crowned. Honestly I like Wanderer more cuz I find his playstyle more fun and he is not tied to his energy so he is more flexible in all content but on AOE and some tough enemy Xiao is better so that's that

  • @Hikari156
    @Hikari156 Год назад

    I hope u & ur son feel better soon IWinToLose Gaming. Happy holidays, stay safe and healthy everyone and good luck on ur pulls.

  • @gabriellozoyasampol7985
    @gabriellozoyasampol7985 Год назад +6

    I would’ve honestly loved to see a c6 showdown between all normal attack based dps

  • @reformeddoomer6777
    @reformeddoomer6777 Год назад +3

    I got c2 wanderer but I'd love to get Xiao.

  • @disinterestedhomo6002
    @disinterestedhomo6002 Год назад +1

    For faruzan i think her buff applies at the start of the burst and then continues even if you leave the burst radius

  • @amosp9411
    @amosp9411 Год назад +42

    Xiao and Wanderer have the same dynamic as Childe and Ayato.
    Both are more or less equal at damage potential at c0, but one has significantly better constellations than the other

    • @justsam4321
      @justsam4321 Год назад +31

      Maybe, but because Chide and Ayato are Hydro, that changes the usefulness of the characters as supports for other dps characters. Like. Ayato is great and all, but Childe as a hydro applier can't be beat. Especially for Xiangling. Especially if you know how to play him.
      He also has a random nuke burst which is always nice and riptide.
      Comparing Childe and Ayato's dynamic to Xiao and Wanderer's may seem obvious enough to do, but realistically, those dynamics are completely different. And that's mostly due to the element they possess

    • @shachede6828
      @shachede6828 Год назад +1

      Ayato is better due his ridiculous flexibility and support and damage buff. Also hydro. Only difference is he won’t nuke like childe at c0. Apart from childe nuke he and childe have similar dps at c0. Wanderer here is a hyper carry! Barely any support! Needs constellations. To out dps childe. Not f2p friendly

    • @justsam4321
      @justsam4321 Год назад +27

      @@shachede6828 mmm. Ayato is the definition of "Jack of all trades, master of none" he's not bad at all, but he's rarely the best option. He's a good unit to sub into places if you don't have or don't want to use a specific character.
      Childe by contrast has amazing teams, but isn't as flexible. Childe International vs Ayato national is a good example
      Also. Childe has ridiculous icd on his hydro application

    • @velgard.
      @velgard. Год назад +2

      Childe to ayato is way different than xiao to wanderer

    • @zed60k47
      @zed60k47 Год назад +3

      Wanderer has like, no damage output at all at c0 lol, we compared their damage output in the IWTL server and even against bosses my solo Xiao is able to one cycle the Asimon boss while wanderer with a full team can barely do it.

  • @musiconly6383
    @musiconly6383 Год назад +55

    Just saying, but xiao's runs feel like they're a lot more skill oriented than wanderers...
    Personally, I think the most impressive part here is keeping both xiao and wanderer alive throughout the abyss run... They're both very squishy, especially wanderer

    • @insertgenerichannelname
      @insertgenerichannelname Год назад +26

      I always felt the same. A lot of people complain about Xiao gameplay, when they don't realize that jump+plunge can be used very skillfully through timing in order to dodge attacks, which makes the Experience that much more enjoyable.
      As for the Wanderer, unfortunately being unable to freely dash in the air makes him appear less "skillfull" since you want to keep those point to extend dps

    • @nightday2030
      @nightday2030 Год назад +6

      @@insertgenerichannelname At C1 your free dash passive activates more often. He looks pretty good in the right hand tho, I have seen a lot players who don't ignore his passive they can literally reposition themselves constantly without getting hit

    • @haseebbarya8294
      @haseebbarya8294 Год назад +6

      @@insertgenerichannelname His A4 is ignored so much.
      It exists for a reason. A free sprint in air every 4-5 Attacks tho requires skill to handle, can prove really useful

    • @insertgenerichannelname
      @insertgenerichannelname Год назад +1

      ​@@haseebbarya8294 that's true, it helps, but when I first commented I was already taking that in consideration.
      It takes skill to dash at the right moment, that's true, but it still feels a bit bad to be limited that much to the point that it's just better to get a shielder for the sake of dps.
      Don't get me wrong, Xiao also has a bit of that issue (though I consider every jump a long window for him to be "invulnerable") but not as much as the Wanderer, at least that's how it felt for my first 2 weeks using him.

    • @feiht5487
      @feiht5487 Год назад

      jump and left click jump and left click jump and left click jump and left click jump and left click jump and left click jump and left click

  • @ramandawalbariashar7014
    @ramandawalbariashar7014 Год назад +2

    I wanna see the comparation between c0 wanderer and c6 heizou, both of them is catalyst user, I think this is completely comparable.

  • @tenshukaku2830
    @tenshukaku2830 Год назад +1

    Btw IWTL, I wouldn’t mind speedrunning videos of just abyss with explanation with many characters. Regardless of a showdown just the most optimal runs. It would be fun and interesting

    • @barreltitor1419
      @barreltitor1419 Год назад

      I love this idea! It’ll be really nice to see different teams viabilities for Abyss and comments on clear speed, ease of use w/ healing/shielding/grouping/lack of dps or nuke if needed vs certain bosses, and other stuff e.g. :
      - how mono geo teams fare vs elemental for this abyss cycle
      - how anemo dps centric teams such as xiao/wanderer/heizou fare vs others
      - dendro and its hyperbloom/bloom/nilou bloom/quicken/aggravate/burgeon or burning teams fare
      - physical teams such as eula/razor (i think there’s only those two tbh lmao) and obv their best team setups to optimize their run
      - Morgana vs traditional elemental reactions team like melt, HuTao vape, Yoimiya vape
      but I understand it’s difficult to cover all these different teams every Abyss cycle :’(

  • @alakachef202
    @alakachef202 Год назад +6

    Doesn’t wanderers passive also have something with like pyro in fused e and how it boosts damage?

    • @sablepuff
      @sablepuff Год назад

      you're right

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. Год назад +3

      Yes, nice character

    • @alakachef202
      @alakachef202 Год назад

      @@sablepuff so wouldn’t that effect the results of the first part, because Bennet applied pyro and scara sucked it up?

    • @meowsymcmeow7438
      @meowsymcmeow7438 Год назад +5

      @@alakachef202 and why shouldn’t they utilize his passive? it’s part of his kit. pyro buffs 30% atk btw

    • @alakachef202
      @alakachef202 Год назад

      @@meowsymcmeow7438 I thought it was just raw damage, no multipliers outside of skill scaling

  • @Haze4743
    @Haze4743 Год назад +5

    Theres a point in damage where Regisvines should not be used as test subjects. Its more about who "bursts faster" in rotation than who has the best potential.
    That said people that said Xiao lost for his constellations keep not understanding Xiao's flaws. The damage boost in this showcase came mostly from *the supports*
    The only constellation that really boosts Wanderer's damage considerably is C6 for a higher constant dps potential. C2 is good but is used to end a rotation a bit faster, its not the main point of his kit.
    So if both were C1, would Xiao have won some of the "burst" categories in the showdown? Yes, but on sustained dps he would be pretty much *equal* to Wanderer once you get rid of the Aoe issues that both have and supports/speedrun scenarios trivialize.
    To really get an idea of how good each one is you need lesser supports (on the level of an average player instead of leviathans) and then put them against one big single target and a boss followed by a bunch of mobs of different qualities right after.
    With that scenario Wanderer would win the first one and be tied to Xiao in the second, and this counting them at C0-C1, making Wanderer the winner regardless.
    Xiao's loss doesnt come from constellations, it comes from his locked rotation that flows unnaturally unless he kills the things in a single one, which is what cracked supports help you do.

  • @LexLootHoe
    @LexLootHoe Год назад

    Get better soon, hope your lil sprout is getting a big immunity boost and feels ok!

  • @kri1ndawn440
    @kri1ndawn440 Год назад +6

    From what I heard xiao performs better comparatively at c0 but falls behind when constellation are factored in especially C2 and above

    • @SkillfulCurve
      @SkillfulCurve Год назад +6

      cuz Xiao costellations are trash except c6 and c1

    • @tartagliasjigglydworshipper
      @tartagliasjigglydworshipper Год назад +2

      @@SkillfulCurve honestly, even Xiao's C6 is not that amazing. especially since it's the reason why he can't produce particles during his Q, unlike Itto who can self battery a bit

    • @SkillfulCurve
      @SkillfulCurve Год назад

      @@tartagliasjigglydworshipper you are right.

  • @imrananuar7551
    @imrananuar7551 Год назад +27

    I just got scaramouche and really enjoyed him lately. But nothing beats my Xiao. He's easily the most satisfying character I've ever played plus he's has one of the best designs imo

  • @myst1fy21
    @myst1fy21 Год назад

    Hey iwtl i have a question how do you calculate your percentage dmg potential would rly love to know! Much love to you and your content❤

  • @rushilsaini6356
    @rushilsaini6356 Год назад +1

    I wanted a c0 comparison between both but still great vid.

  • @generaltoszur1036
    @generaltoszur1036 Год назад +6

    Calling them teenage when wanderer is 400 yo and xiao is around 3000 yo

  • @meowsymcmeow7438
    @meowsymcmeow7438 Год назад +24

    Nice video. Outside of damage though, Wanderer definitely wins 100%.
    He can FLY, which is very useful on horizontal distances without ground, like the top of mountain areas, over water, etc. Only he can reliably cross those distances. Also has the highest vertical flight of any character.
    He also has the fastest dash for exploration, albeit having a slightly shorter duration than Yelan’s skill. But he still wins because its cd is just 6s over Yelan’s 10s.
    He has low CD and is not burst-dependent, which is the best design for any character in the overworld. No need to wait for burst cd and energy when fighting just hilichurls lol. Plus his NAs are homing!
    Literally the best & most fun overworld character, no one else comes close

    • @nightday2030
      @nightday2030 Год назад

      He's also en extremely mobile catalys. Im sure it's just a matter of time for people to get used to his playstyle. People are probably are not used to him yet because its been a while since the last time we got on-field catalyst dps (excluding C6 Nahida)

    • @haseebbarya8294
      @haseebbarya8294 Год назад

      @@nightday2030 and the fact Wanderer is more accessible then C6 Nahida.

    • @jimmyrq1382
      @jimmyrq1382 Год назад

      But, why do you need c6 nahida?

    • @jimmyrq1382
      @jimmyrq1382 Год назад

      oh... you were talking about c6 wanderer.

    • @sangnguyen-se3eq
      @sangnguyen-se3eq Год назад +1

      @@jimmyrq1382 he talk about Catalyst on-field Dps, which is impossible for Nahida unless she’s c6. While Wanderer can do it at c0.

  • @mistergi2222
    @mistergi2222 Год назад

    Nice to see how optimized rotation

  • @dian277
    @dian277 Год назад +1

    well we got prove now with Nahida and Wanderer that catalyst users can be strong, especially with their range advantage, hyv just need to make a good kit. Also, YES for c0 comparison

  • @rage_katana926
    @rage_katana926 Год назад +7

    would have preferred to see them both c0. It would have been a better portrayal for most I think.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +12

      Yeah he knows that too, but he can't cause he cannot undo his C6 characters

    • @velgard.
      @velgard. Год назад +3

      At c0 xiao is around 1/3 better

    • @rage_katana926
      @rage_katana926 Год назад

      @@haruyanto8085 yea ik. but he used to do c0 dps showdowns a lot though. even when he did have most c6

  • @badass7565
    @badass7565 Год назад +29

    Wanderer not being a burst reliant character easily makes him superior to many other dps characters . And he probably would be top 5 in overworld exploration. Though I do believe that xiao is still better than wanderer in many cases just because of his mid air movement . In my opinion both are pretty good characters but I like wanderer more anyway.

    • @nightday2030
      @nightday2030 Год назад +5

      Just because character A got outclashed doesn't mean the B is better or A is worse. They both shine in their own ways. All characters are made as alternatives and variations, not to compete with one another.

    • @badass7565
      @badass7565 Год назад +3

      That's what I said , both are pretty good characters but I just like wanderers gameplay more .

    • @feiht5487
      @feiht5487 Год назад +1

      Wanderer has more future and value

  • @sketchysketches381
    @sketchysketches381 Год назад +1

    Always forget how wild whale damge is had to rewind the first Regisvine test because I blinked and missed most of it

  • @Kblast145
    @Kblast145 Год назад +1

    I'd love to see tartag return to DPS showdown with all the new dendro reactions :)

  • @goonninetyfive
    @goonninetyfive Год назад +28

    Why is there so much Xiao cope in the comments… Wanderer scales better with cons but most people don’t pull for cons past c2. At most it’s a play style preference at that point and since it’s genshin the difference really doesn’t matter. I chose wanderer because he’s just more comfy since his e is the source of most his damage and he’s top tier in overworld.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Год назад +9

      It's what happens when DPS characters get Powercrept, same thing happened to Diluc, Klee, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Childe mains, etc, Xiao mains were spared since he used to be the only anemo DPS. This is why in gacha games you always pull for the support/utility characters

    • @goonninetyfive
      @goonninetyfive Год назад +4

      @@haruyanto8085 it would only really make sense to be upset about power creep if they made the content too difficult to clear for older units though. Mihoyo took a firm stance against creating anything more difficult than abyss.

    • @justsam4321
      @justsam4321 Год назад +12

      @@haruyanto8085 Xingqiu and Childe got powercrept? By what? Yelan and Ayato? Two characters that have similar kits to their counterparts but just so happen to be unique enough to coexist?
      Diluc and Klee I agree with (Klee should have been a support). And Sucrose. She wasn't powercrept, but people like to think that she was

    • @goonninetyfive
      @goonninetyfive Год назад +2

      @@haruyanto8085 Thinking about it more I can see why it might be frustrating if you are struggling to clear content and feel like you are wasting time and resources investing in units that will have stronger counterparts down the road. However, it’s a single player game with no real competitive aspects. I think it would help people who are feeling frustrated by power creep to remember that. It makes sense for people to talk about it if it’s something they think should be fixed.

    • @meowsymcmeow7438
      @meowsymcmeow7438 Год назад +7

      Agree with the “it’s genshin, the difference doesn’t matter.” C0 Wanderer clears just as well as Xiao, while having all the benefits on the overworld. It’s all just preference really since they’re both good, which xiao copers don’t seem to understand lol

  • @flybreak7808
    @flybreak7808 Год назад +3

    Surley c0 wanderer performance is not mid and he is better than c0 xiao SURLEY…

  • @Hulk7110
    @Hulk7110 Год назад +2

    Hope you and your son feel better soon!

  • @Laugenbrezel
    @Laugenbrezel Год назад

    everytime you uploaded a dps showdown, I regret not pulling the character. Tho, I know I cant do things like you both did.

  • @theneighborskid.
    @theneighborskid. Год назад +26

    missed opportunity to say "Xiaodown" instead of "showdown"

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. Год назад +2

      Xiaodown xiaoup xiaodown xiaoup xiaodown xiaoup xiaodown xiaoup

    • @gnuhgnauqneyugn
      @gnuhgnauqneyugn Год назад +1

      ​@@nexuhs. Xiaoneutral!
      Wait that's just Hutao..

  • @NoctLC7
    @NoctLC7 Год назад +3

    Before watching this, I have both of them and Xiao is better for my playstyle so I like him more

  • @dott8348
    @dott8348 Год назад

    Finallllly, ur backkk

  • @Attillee
    @Attillee Год назад +1

    I need that Faruha C6 / Jean C4 support Comparison IWTL

  • @Zero-tj7gz
    @Zero-tj7gz Год назад +3

    still love wanderers playstyle, huge damage or not he is very much capable of dealing consistent and fast damage compared to xiao, overall i just prefer wanderer cuz he fits my playstyle 🤷‍♂

  • @smilerman
    @smilerman Год назад +4

    First here!! and Wanderer is LITTT!!

  • @johnemad8336
    @johnemad8336 Год назад

    Bro i got really worried when u were away for a while
    Happy youre ok , take care

  • @zsigadee5653
    @zsigadee5653 Год назад

    Hey IWinToLose! Please try/review the fishing bow on Faruzan feels like it is good on her.

    • @FuzzleX
      @FuzzleX Год назад

      If you're talking about support faruzan then favonius bow is still the better option (even possibly BiS), it got higher ER stat and way better passive

  • @jhijhi3958
    @jhijhi3958 Год назад +9

    So many xiao mains here hahaha cant accept Wanderer is wayyyy better lol 😅

  • @EzraGenshin
    @EzraGenshin Год назад +4

    Wanderer slays