@@miltonpapaioannou6853 : It’s hilarious isn’t it. They have a 70K year history on this soil and are now the least everything on every measure. Aborigines rate high in 1 list though……the hate list 😂
So why are we squandering countless millions on a useless referendum? Maybe the VOICE would like to kick in a few million $ from their war chest 🤑😡it's a huge NO for me & everyone I talk to feels the same. The cost of this referendum could have been used to actually help the indigenous (Australians 🙄🤔)if properly & fairly administered 🤫
I'll give you a clue mate if we're to get this across the line we need to forget our personal hatred of whoever or whatever and just be there to vote no don't bring climate into this it's got nothing to do with this subject
Australia is in deep decline and serious trouble right now. If this Voice gets in it will take the country past the point of no return. We should be removing red tape and bureaucratic over regulation, not bringing in more! Especially something so divisive and risk fraught as this! Vote NO and do your part in at least trying to save this country!
No one seems to be talking about the white Aborigines who are causing all the problems by not giving any money to the full bloods and then saying look at the conditions they're living in Australians should be ashamed. That's why I'm voting no because the white Aborigines want to take over the entire country without actually doing it the correct and proper way spending the 40 billion dollars a year on themselves and no one is asking them where it's going
I pity the colonist so much so, absolutely I don't.. Poor colonist are you out of land and contraceptives, may there population explode onto yours since the contraceptive powder laced there water has run out...
I would have thought of the white Aboriginal corruption which is what they're trying to put into law would be slightly more important but no one seems to worry about that
Bob Hawke said”never install race & ancestry in the constitution “ Well said. To vote yes is installing apartheid in the constitution. One citizen one vote, it’s called democracy
When we have white Aboriginal people ripping off the system to the tune of 40 billion dollars a year not giving it to the full bloods at all I would have thought that would have been slightly more important
I understand the connection to the land as an Australian born white fella. We need to move forward together and not be divided by the voice. It's about respect from both sides. Jacinta Price is a breath of fresh air. The voice is divisive. It's a NO from me. I would vote yes to something that would help us move forward together ❤️
We don’t understand the connection like they do. 😂 I mean you and I probably have 150 years between us and Aborigines have 70,0000. 😂 70,000 150. We can’t embarrass ourselves. Nah respect to their ancestors for maintaining such a beautiful country but it is ours now, it is our commodity to sell or buy. They just wanted to keep it in pristine condition for what??? They need to move on, we’ll be here for the next 75k years.
I’m a non-Aboriginal person and have absolutely no problem acknowledging the original inhabitants of the land at working at redressing the voicelessness of generations of our First Nations peoples. It’s not a competition … I’m not a snowflake ❄️ who feels their own entitlement will be impinged!
@@swirlingvortex2022: There are many like us. I’m not sure what the hang up is. I mean they were first peoples after all 🤷♂️ Well that’s my understanding unless people are spreading porkies.
I lol at Linda Burney for saying that she wants to give the aboriginals in alice springs the right to tell the government what to do with the money. How bout giving that right to all Australians?....I mean after all both indigenous and non-indigenous Australians have voting rights.
SGE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE!!! ITS HER FKN JOB!!! NIT OURS!!!! SHE RIPS OFF MORE FOR HER OWN ELITE LIFESTYLE !!!!!!! ITS OBVIOUS TO ME!!! 3 % IF THE POPULATION...????? YOU GET WHAT YOU WORK FOR IN LIFE!!!! NOT SITTING ON YOUR ASS WHINING DRINKING BOOZE!!!!!
How about serious recourse for how her and Marcia have misappropriated a big portion of that allocated funding for Aboriginal community targets (as promised) through immeasurable criminal rorting as key stakeholders in useless land councils like centrecorp and supply nation!?!?
If you are not 100% sure what power “The Voice” will have, the default position has to be N0. I will V0TE N0 because I cannot trust this government, too many lies told already. 🇦🇺If you don’t know, V0TE N0. 🇦🇺
Precisely howI feel about the Govt. That and the bullying and accusations when you ask for an explanation. If it's such a wonderful thing, then explain it in plain language that we can all understand.
When you have a Prime Minister blasting people and branding them as racist for voting NO then something is hugely wrong. Anthony Albanese is dividing this country, plain and simple.
Jacinta's story is just one of many sadly. It affects everyone in the community. I send hugs. I'm not happy that Labor can't see the division this is causing in the Indigenous tribes already. This is what the voice will do. Cause division within the Tribes. Dean looks very fortunate and his heart is good but how will the voice help him? Warren my heart and hugs goes out to you for strength buddy. Always a wise person. He is right about all the current Aboriginal Depts already being there. Pearson comes across as melodramatic nothing he has said has convinced me the voice will be successful. Well thought out Matt. It helped to get a look into the very different lives and diversity of all Indigenous. I will still be voting no.
Not happy at BARNABY'S reception by the audience and fellow members if the panelon Q&A Monday.Downright bullying for simply expressimg his opinion against the Yes vote 😡 Its getting nasty folks Hate to think what it will be like After the vote is cast
What do they expect if they go on q&A a bunch of Melbourne university girls with a bug up their ass because no one will talk to them because they all look like Morticia
All I have heard from so called Labor Party Indiginies, is how little they have done, with the $35 billion dollars already spent on them. Now, they want even more, and the ability to stop any legislation that goes through the Australian Parliament, at any time, because it does not suit Indiginies. Place a colour of people, in the constitution, only helps to alienate Australians, where did not come to these shows thousands of years ago, but chose to come, not because of the Indiginies, but because Australia, and those who worked hard for generation, built a country, that is the envy of the world, with little input from Indiginies, even though they had the opportunity to do so, because they did not see the Australia of today, as their country. Yet now, that it is a prosperous nation, they decided they want a larger chunk of the cash to splash, so the Labor Party became their vehicle to do so! Also, each time I hear how many thousands of years, they claim to have lived in Australia, which seems to increase each time it is said, this does not impress anyone, since they did NOTHING with the country, except burn it, and kill everything, then eat it. It took western culture to make it into a civilised, liveable, prosperous nation, they now want to subvert and steal.
37:28 it’s gullible people like this that really make me worried. People that simply fall for the vibe and immediately say yes to this change when they’ve probably never researched it or even heard of it. Don’t be gullible, people. Always do your research before you make a decision. Don’t blindly assume this government knows what it’s doing and that it will actually help those indigenous Australians living in poverty.
Australia decides - vote NO. Did anyone hear one activist from the yes campaign mention help for the marginalised indigenous living in remote areas - this voice to parliament cannot help solve any of the problems. Life expectancy - indigenous living longer now than before colonial settlement - incarceration - no offence for being aboriginal - health - there is no magic wand - education - how many new schools with teachers is the voice to parliament committee planning to have? - houses - no one can afford their own home in the present climate. Have another nice holiday in NZ Elmer. Vote yes for Elmer's legacy , and Noel Pearson , pot of gold for Parkin , Burney , Langton , Mayo , Wyatt , Yunupingu & other elite. Hangers on Leeser , Archer , Birmingham , Bragg etc. Is anyone besides Price & Mundine caring about the real issues here. City voters have not even met an aboriginal. Wonder if the elder on Groote Eylandt who thinks they have everything under control , not one person in gaol etc. , will be happy when the voice takes control from him. Many reasons to VOTE NO.
Indigenous Australians have a voice just like every other Australians, every four years on Federal/State election days, a vote. Yes, will be a disaster for the country.
We don't need a voice we just need a solution to the corruption that exists with white Aboriginals who spend the money on themselves and not on the full blooded Aboriginal people that's what this is about
I notice that the Yes campaigners only ever refer to Australia as belonging to indigenous … so for those of us born and raised in Australia, isn’t it OUR country too? Yes = racist division. No = united.
Dean Parkin appears to be a wonderful man but very compromised. There is so much to gain by so very few from implementing the Voice and all that ensues, that thinking clinically and clearly about this referendum is impossible. He claims the Voice would unite the country but it will do anything but. The division is growing by the minute because a small group, who've done little to progress modern Australia, simply want to possess modern Australia. It's fair enough that the vast majority of the population who've worked very hard to progress this country and buy their land or their house, aren't too keen to suddenly become tenants paying rent. People will fight for their land.
NZ has a Māori tribunal for their parliament and it has been good for all New Zealanders! I don’t see why everyone is so afraid of the voice. All it does , is allow the Aboriginal ppl to contribute recommendations to matters that affect Aboriginal Affairs. There is absolutely no power to veto any parliament legislation. Ppl are just so afraid of change these days. bunch of cowards.
It's a NO from me. It like just signing a blank cheque, who in their right mind would do that? At the moment if we gave each first nation $1,000,000 per year and got rid of cash cows. We save nearly 30 billion a year. Cheers Graham.
Unfortunately Matt Cunningham's reporting about Groote Eylandt omitted a very important aspect of that community... to the point of creating a misleading impression. The community's success came from massive support & work opportunities created in the early 1960s (& still going) from the Groote Eylandt Mining Company... Australia's largest source of Manganese. The aboriginal community has come a long way since then. I recall at the time of mining development, the white workers had to lock themselves in their corrugated iron dongas at night to protect themselves from rampaging aboriginals (referring to them as rock monkeys). I also recall workers stories of groups of aboriginals chasing their light commuter planes down the airstip as they took off, throwing spears at the plane. Opportunity for meaningful long-term work has made the world of difference to this very remote community.
With the cultural heritage act enacted in Western Australia without referendum or even consultation with landowners what other means can be expected from the voice to restrict landowners modifying their own property?
42:34 Wow, but his issues must be far greater than just this. Look, it is quite clear that each of Jacinta and Warren’s communities have rejected them. It’s like they don’t want their community to have a voice, because they want to be the voice for their communities. Their is personal recognition in it, there is power, respect and financial benefits.
I still dont get it.. why only voice for just one culture/race. Hows that gonna work??what about voice for Australians with other heritage... voice for Chinese Australians ? Muslim Australians?
@@daniellebcooper7160At it again hey Danni girl, the first nations people only, have a problem with people like you, so I'll let you leave first, goodbye and good luck, have a nice life. 😂😂😂
Parkins not fooling anybody but himself!This Voice is definitely NOT uniting us!Its doing exactly the opposite 😢I fear for our society whichever way things go!😅
Sky Australia failed to establish why the current avenues for consultation have apparently failed, and how a small group of appointed activists will "fix" the current state of affairs. Warren Mundine stated that there were already many "voices" , yet the interviewer didnt explore why this current process was failing. Why wasnt this openly debated in this programme ?? This dodging of the real debate without any real facts is a major failure of this documentary.
Why wasn't the elder on Groote Eylandt who says they have everything under control there now , not one person in gaol etc. , debated on whether he wants a Voice to Parliament committee taking control from the elders up there after the referendum. When it comes to propaganda it works both ways hey.
people get accused of being racist for speaking out on indigenous issues. which is why its been swept under the rug for so long, no politition wants to deal with it.....just keep giving them money to shut them up.
it is naive to think ‘the voice’ in its current wording once inshrined into the constitution, will not be taken advantage of by bad actors to weld power, no matter what good intention those who propose it have.
There has been a lot of fear-mongering about the voice, and a lot of myths spread. If the reason you're thinking of voting no is because you're worried about legal challenges and the courts delaying processes, you can rest assured that the former Chief Justice of the High Court (a Liberal party member) along with Australia's Solicitor General have said that these concerns are not founded. The constitution will only require that a body called the voice will be established and they may make representations to the government. There is NOTHING in the referendum and the proposed change that will allow the Voice to veto the government's decisions. There will be NO requirement for the government to even consider the views of the Voice, but they will look like idiots if they don't follow sound advice on Aboriginal issues. There is NOTHING in the referendum or the proposed change that will require compensation, loss of land or anything else... it just ensures that those affected can have a voice directly to the government about their views on policies and laws that affect them. The Voice is only as divisive as opponents allow it to be. The richest people in the country already have the ears of the government, this is an opportunity for Aboriginal people to also have their views heard. Yes there are already Aboriginal people in parliament, BUT they are generally aligned with their political party first and foremost. Labor and Liberal ministers are bound to follow the party policy, and not vote against the party, even if Aboriginal politicians want to vote differently to the party. The constitution is deliberately vague, and simply gives authority to the parliament to make laws, but doesn't tell them exactly how it should all be done. If you're worried about there not being enough detail about the Voice, consider two things: 1. The Constitution is so vague that it doesn't even mention the role of the Prime Minister, but there is no concern about this lack of detail. 2. If Dutton is so concerned about the operation of the Voice, he can change the legislation if he comes to power to correct how it operates... he just can't remove it. 3. If it really is as bad as Dutton says it will be, he can hold another referendum to remove it - he's obviously not concerned about the cost of it as he's already said he'll hold another referendum if this doesn't get up.
Im sorry but this is sometbing bigger then a "voice" for indigenous now. This will introduce Racial Hierarchy into government and with a multicultural future for Australia we cant let that happen. No matter what.
The administrative machinery alone will cost $$$ billions for an entrenched parallel indigenous bureaucracy! God help us if the YES case gets up! Vote NO! Noel Pearson is gunning for Australian taxpayers!
When people are being attacked and lives threatened then you KNOW its NOT going to be a good thing. If they do that then how will they treat us if they get some power over us?
Send the Yes voters to Alice Springs for 1 week, they will be booking a greyhound bus or getting back into their housing boomer RV within hours of arriving, (those old fogies don't like planes).
@@beepbeep6861 The crime rate in Alice Springs is over 10x that of an Eastern Coast major city, when it comes to domestic and sexual crimes that figure rises. Facts speak louder than a racist and anti-democratic voice.
Just talking about the VOICE has divided Australia and families and Aboriginal people and they haven't announced the date for the referendum. The PM is not honest enough to spell out the total package the VOICE represents, Dont know , vote no
I feel like vomiting every time I hear Linda Burney speak. How did this person of such incompetence find her way to a Federal Minister's position. $396,000 per year... for what?
To Dear Prime Minister. Why do we need the Voice? Yes this was an aboriginal land but cannot always be because we can't deny the facts of where this land was before 1788 and where it is now. When Aboriginals had the land, what did they do with it. I would be interested to know one road that Aboriginals built, one bridge that Aboriginals built, one school they built, one hospital is built by aboriginal community, one university built by Aboriginals. This land is land of immigrants. More than 5 generations of European, Asians and British have worked hard to build this country it is today. So why the privilege to one group only because their generations were born here first. Why racism to all those people from all over the world who call Australia HOME not being given same privileges. Controlling their kids and teaching them not to steal is the prime responsibility of Aboriginal parent. Are they doing that right? That is the reason the kids are jailed Nothing such as Voice can fix that!! Why aren't Aboriginal parent send their kids to school. This is not a third world where we don't have enough schools. Why are Aboriginals dying with heart attacks because they smoke weed out of free money from. Centerlink. Voice is not going to fix that. It's know when Aboriginals were given housing they destroyed every furniture because they like living wild. Voice is nothing but Racism to all Australian tax payers. A big No to Albo who wants to put his name in history and get famous. But at same time he risks all future generations by making them tenants of Aboriginals
So why are we squandering countless millions on a useless referendum? Maybe the VOICE would like to kick in a few million $ from their war chest 🤑😡it's a huge NO for me & everyone I talk to feels the same. The cost of this referendum could have been used to actually help the indigenous (Australians 🙄🤔)if properly & fairly administered 🤫
As pointed out there are many different tribes of indigenous people yet Noel Pearson wants his people to have the voice so they can have the power. If people vote yes we are in a lot of trouble. BTW the attitude should be that if you are born here, you are indigenous regardless of the colour of your skin.
The problem is the tribal people in South Australia western Australia and the northern territory are ignored by the eastern states . It would seem the less Aboriginal blood you have the more attention you're able to get .when was the last time we saw a full blood being interviewed on television social media radio or anything like that we don't see that because this is about white Aborigines not the real ones that get no funding and are made to live under bits of corrugated iron while they're white cousins live in luxury
How about interviewing the numerous Aboriginal Elders and Community leaders appalled that their names without their permission are on the Uluru Statement and the draft of the Voice To Parliament and want the canvas torn up they do not support this divisive canvas
If it's a yes, then it will be the end of the federation, as WA will leave, The constitution is Australia's birth certificate, it's what unites the country and the people, this referendum will divide the country,
I disagree absolutely. You don't try and tell me these two facts back to back. 1. The natives need more power and control. 2. Individually the natives cannot control themselves or their communities. Societies that embrace violence have too much of it
The indigenous people already have a voice, every meeting, every function every event comes with smoking ceremony face painting and welcome to country. I am voting NO so I must be a racist, thats the story the yes campaigners are promoting. Albo and Burney are so aggressive when asked about how the voice will work. Parliament House should be an Alcohol free zone like many workplaces.
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Will those who live on communities, adhering to their traditional ways no longer want to do so under a voice? will the voice provide them with homes they won't destroy? I see many on the communities who look happy enough to be where and how they are, yes, standards of living need to be improved, but there are a lot of non indigenous people who's conditions need improving.
There's two issues first of all these people have just come out of a time capsule from a stone age period in human history they are different and they need different solutions. There has to be a way of building houses that they can't either burn down or kick down when they're drunk and stopping the alcohol is not going to work because they drive 1000 k's to go and get more . Not a lot of people realise how cold it gets in the desert at night and all times of year and if they're not moving around there's no wood to burn so the house is going to be the first to go , if the land council is not providing heating or ways of cooking what do they do . The secondly we need to deal with the white Aborigines who are not providing any funding and spending it on themselves which goes unchecked by the government that's causing the big problem the full bloods think the Australians are not giving them anything but it's the white cousins on the land councils who are stealing it
Matt your documentary is flawed to the extreme. How can we ever hope to offer an intelligent choice with our vote in the coming referendum for the 'Voice' when you and so many others including Anthony Albanese don't even know the true meaning of 'Indigenous'? For the record as I have pointed out in other posts, Indigenous: 'born to that land'! I, like so many million other indigenous Australians were born upon it and this is our land, our home' just as much as it is anyone else's! I don't need to be welcomed to country like like you when first met by Dean Parkin...I'm home and always welcome here. While I wholehearttily and sincerely mean all I had to say in my previous post 2 hour ago, I also believe if we are to achieve true recognition for all Australians then the current Aboriginal supporters for a 'Yes' vote need to pay careful attention to their 'welcome to country' ceromony and decide whether they want to keep their flag? After all, with so many different original tribes and groups making up the Aboriginal inhabitants of Australia, how many flags did they have? While it is not an impossibilty to design and adopt a new Australian flag, they have to realize that 'welcome to country' has missed the boat by more than 200 years. I am not responsible nor will I be held accountable for the sins and transgressions of the first Europeans to land here, I am however, in agreement for giving the Aboriginal people the services, respect, recognition and equal opportunity they all so richly deserve!
@@Hannah-201 Most of us are born here, but what is our connection, is it a historical or an ancient connection, this will sort most of us out, you'll probably run and hide.
One side wants a constitutional voice for a small group of citizens and the other doesn't want to change one already given, submissively, to a foreign monarch. Both sides are wrong. Our Constitution is for all Australians. A single united voice.
This voice will take the Indigenous people back hundreds of years.. It clearly states its an advisory board, and the parliament can choose to either accept or deny their requests.. We all know the govt are very deceptive on things.. The referendum should only be recognising indigenous people in our constitution then work from there.. Under this current referendum questions the answer is NO
We already have voices in parliament, and there have been and continue to be millions$$s implemented into helping Australian Indigenous peoples. Money is not the answer to helping Indigenous peoples. It is about Indigenous families ceasing to pass on intergenerational anguish and resentment, which results in new generations harbouring anger. Change needs to happen in the families of Indigenous Australian peoples, for parents not to raise their children to have victim identities.
Has anyone thought of the extra tax an average Australian will have to pay to support this whole voice to parliament body? Surely they are not going to be self funded.
It's fair to assert that North American Indians likely didn't view the chained African slaves as invaders, much like we don't assign blame to a baby born into poverty, as their futures were guided by the fundamental instinct of "self-preservation." However, when it comes to the convicts, including rebels from Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, who were transported in chains on the same slave ships after being defeated by the British during the Age of Empires, it seems they aren't afforded the same considerations, possibly due to their non-black identity. One in five Australians have convict heritage.
Brace yourself for a Zimbabwe style economy. There are going to be a hell of a lot of pay outs so these ppl can "heal." Will others who have ancestors and loved ones who fought in Boer War, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, and Afghanistan also receive the same consideration for the intergenerational trauma caused from loved ones serving and protecting this great nation we call home? My loved one committed suicide after the trauma of fighting in Afghanistan.. He would have been devastated to see that the land he fought for and loved has a PM turning his back on all non-indigenous Australians. I am the descendant of ppl who have fought and died for this country because they too had a connection to this land. According the the 26 page document accessed through FOI we will be considered "criminals" basically committing "criminals acts" for being here and will have to pay $$. It's truly devastating. I wish thisPM would go. Where is the Governor General in all of this? Vacationing in Hawaii perhaps!? 😢
It should be clearly understood that, unlike all the other power-brokers who have formalised positions within our Constitution - the Members of Parliament, Senators, the High Court judges, the Governor-General, the military and civil servants, who are all elected or appointed for set terms and can be removed by being voted out, sacked or retired, with no expectation that they can pass their position onto a family member or descendant - the Voice members will be different. They will be ‘chosen’ [that is, appointed; free elections for the Group of 24 are not proposed] based on regional and family (tribal) connections. This will allow powerful Aboriginal families and clans to dominate the membership process and ensure that only their family members are chosen’.
I pray that Australia will maintain the freedom and democracy it needs and vote NO on this dangerous anti-democratic madness.
Let’s go against more than 80% of the Aboriginal population.
So you watched this whole video and that was your simplistic conclusion? 😂
25 plus million worry over the less than 1 million... Dear me you may lose your privelage to trample...!! Poor colonist
@@miltonpapaioannou6853 : It’s hilarious isn’t it. They have a 70K year history on this soil and are now the least everything on every measure. Aborigines rate high in 1 list though……the hate list 😂
It's best you hope for mercy
We have already decided. Its a big NO. The same as Netzero.
The majority will vote no.
End of story
@@__Diagnosis : Listen. Bugga off, you are not an Aussie, you are a CCP bot and we don't want you here.
two BS topics that have to be defeated. along with indoctrinating kids in school with Leftist bollox.
So why are we squandering countless millions on a useless referendum? Maybe the VOICE would like to kick in a few million $ from their war chest 🤑😡it's a huge NO for me & everyone I talk to feels the same. The cost of this referendum could have been used to actually help the indigenous (Australians 🙄🤔)if properly & fairly administered 🤫
I'll give you a clue mate if we're to get this across the line we need to forget our personal hatred of whoever or whatever and just be there to vote no don't bring climate into this it's got nothing to do with this subject
Australia is in deep decline and serious trouble right now. If this Voice gets in it will take the country past the point of no return. We should be removing red tape and bureaucratic over regulation, not bringing in more! Especially something so divisive and risk fraught as this! Vote NO and do your part in at least trying to save this country!
well said
No one seems to be talking about the white Aborigines who are causing all the problems by not giving any money to the full bloods and then saying look at the conditions they're living in Australians should be ashamed. That's why I'm voting no because the white Aborigines want to take over the entire country without actually doing it the correct and proper way spending the 40 billion dollars a year on themselves and no one is asking them where it's going
Again 25 million worry I've the less than one... Really what if they were you..? Nice history ha are you so proud? Is there enough land for you
I pity the colonist so much so, absolutely I don't.. Poor colonist are you out of land and contraceptives, may there population explode onto yours since the contraceptive powder laced there water has run out...
WE THE PEOPLE...STAND STRONG for NO, WE ARE NOT DIVIDE, NO to RACISM, A COMMON SENSE, FOR A GREATER GOOD OF THIS COUNTRY.....
I would have thought of the white Aboriginal corruption which is what they're trying to put into law would be slightly more important but no one seems to worry about that
Bob Hawke said”never install race & ancestry in the constitution “ Well said. To vote yes is installing apartheid in the constitution. One citizen one vote, it’s called democracy
When we have white Aboriginal people ripping off the system to the tune of 40 billion dollars a year not giving it to the full bloods at all I would have thought that would have been slightly more important
I understand the connection to the land as an Australian born white fella.
We need to move forward together and not be divided by the voice.
It's about respect from both sides.
Jacinta Price is a breath of fresh air.
The voice is divisive.
It's a NO from me.
I would vote yes to something that would help us move forward together ❤️
Would you say yes to a treaty with our first nations people.
How would you have a fucking clue what would work or not, you dim bastard?
We don’t understand the connection like they do. 😂 I mean you and I probably have 150 years between us and Aborigines have 70,0000. 😂
70,000
150.
We can’t embarrass ourselves.
Nah respect to their ancestors for maintaining such a beautiful country but it is ours now, it is our commodity to sell or buy. They just wanted to keep it in pristine condition for what??? They need to move on, we’ll be here for the next 75k years.
I’m a non-Aboriginal person and have absolutely no problem acknowledging the original inhabitants of the land at working at redressing the voicelessness of generations of our First Nations peoples. It’s not a competition … I’m not a snowflake ❄️ who feels their own entitlement will be impinged!
@@swirlingvortex2022: There are many like us. I’m not sure what the hang up is. I mean they were first peoples after all 🤷♂️ Well that’s my understanding unless people are spreading porkies.
Vote NO
I lol at Linda Burney for saying that she wants to give the aboriginals in alice springs the right to tell the government what to do with the money. How bout giving that right to all Australians?....I mean after all both indigenous and non-indigenous Australians have voting rights.
After all , the Government money is our money that most of us paid in taxes .
SGE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE!!! ITS HER FKN JOB!!! NIT OURS!!!! SHE RIPS OFF MORE FOR HER OWN ELITE LIFESTYLE !!!!!!! ITS OBVIOUS TO ME!!!
3 % IF THE POPULATION...????? YOU GET WHAT YOU WORK FOR IN LIFE!!!! NOT SITTING ON YOUR ASS WHINING DRINKING BOOZE!!!!!
Let's be real people, none of our taxes are going to any of this 😂 maybe that one lil bit of bitumen up the road there did 😂
How about serious recourse for how her and Marcia have misappropriated a big portion of that allocated funding for Aboriginal community targets (as promised) through immeasurable criminal rorting as key stakeholders in useless land councils like centrecorp and supply nation!?!?
Misappropriation of funds and rorting should be prison time.
😅hang in there Jacinta, you are doing a great job
If you are not 100% sure what power “The Voice” will have, the default position has to be N0.
I will V0TE N0 because I cannot trust this government, too many lies told already.
🇦🇺If you don’t know, V0TE N0. 🇦🇺
Precisely howI feel about the Govt. That and the bullying and accusations when you ask for an explanation. If it's such a wonderful thing, then explain it in plain language that we can all understand.
When you have a Prime Minister blasting people and branding them as racist for voting NO then something is hugely wrong. Anthony Albanese is dividing this country, plain and simple.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! Unless you want segregation/apartheid, even. The constitution doesn’t involve race, it incorporates EVERYONE!
100 PERCENT
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Nope nope nope.
Voting NO.
It’s a Pandora’s box.. NO
Jacinta's story is just one of many sadly. It affects everyone in the community.
I send hugs.
I'm not happy that Labor can't see the division this is causing in the Indigenous tribes already. This is what the voice will do. Cause division within the Tribes.
Dean looks very fortunate and his heart is good but how will the voice help him?
Warren my heart and hugs goes out to you for strength buddy. Always a wise person. He is right about all the current Aboriginal Depts already being there.
Pearson comes across as melodramatic nothing he has said has convinced me the voice will be successful.
Well thought out Matt. It helped to get a look into the very different lives and diversity of all Indigenous.
I will still be voting no.
It’s the labor way. Devide and conquer
The only person hurting indigenous folk is Anthony Albanese and his desire to divide the country and instil hatred.
Labour can see it but they're in too deep to pull out.
@@marcusluciani1620 I agree
No!!!
Hear my voice …….. no !
Not happy at BARNABY'S reception by the audience and fellow members if the panelon Q&A Monday.Downright bullying for simply expressimg his opinion against the Yes vote 😡
Its getting nasty folks Hate to think what it will be like After the vote is cast
I know your not even allowed to have an opposing opinion. These people are nuts
@@Ryan-eu3kp audience was rigged with yes nutters apparently
What do they expect if they go on q&A a bunch of Melbourne university girls with a bug up their ass because no one will talk to them because they all look like Morticia
All I have heard from so called Labor Party Indiginies, is how little they have done, with the $35 billion dollars already spent on them. Now, they want even more, and the ability to stop any legislation that goes through the Australian Parliament, at any time, because it does not suit Indiginies. Place a colour of people, in the constitution, only helps to alienate Australians, where did not come to these shows thousands of years ago, but chose to come, not because of the Indiginies, but because Australia, and those who worked hard for generation, built a country, that is the envy of the world, with little input from Indiginies, even though they had the opportunity to do so, because they did not see the Australia of today, as their country. Yet now, that it is a prosperous nation, they decided they want a larger chunk of the cash to splash, so the Labor Party became their vehicle to do so! Also, each time I hear how many thousands of years, they claim to have lived in Australia, which seems to increase each time it is said, this does not impress anyone, since they did NOTHING with the country, except burn it, and kill everything, then eat it. It took western culture to make it into a civilised, liveable, prosperous nation, they now want to subvert and steal.
Kurt
The word is EXTORTION
Charging per tree planted for beer change says it all.
Decides No😊
Thank God for Senator Jacinda N Price & Warren Mundine! What wise, wonderful & courageous people. VOTE NO!
No no no
37:28 it’s gullible people like this that really make me worried. People that simply fall for the vibe and immediately say yes to this change when they’ve probably never researched it or even heard of it. Don’t be gullible, people. Always do your research before you make a decision. Don’t blindly assume this government knows what it’s doing and that it will actually help those indigenous Australians living in poverty.
We ALL belong to 'Mother Earth'. This concept that indigenous people are the only ones with a connection to the earth really irritates me.
Happy to vote yes if Linda Burney has a public debate with Price and convinces me. No problem.
Wow wouldn't that be seriously worth watching..count me in mate!!🇦🇺🙋♂️
Australia decides - vote NO. Did anyone hear one activist from the yes campaign mention help for the marginalised indigenous living in remote areas - this voice to parliament cannot help solve any of the problems. Life expectancy - indigenous living longer now than before colonial settlement - incarceration - no offence for being aboriginal - health - there is no magic wand - education - how many new schools with teachers is the voice to parliament committee planning to have? - houses - no one can afford their own home in the present climate. Have another nice holiday in NZ Elmer. Vote yes for Elmer's legacy , and Noel Pearson , pot of gold for Parkin , Burney , Langton , Mayo , Wyatt , Yunupingu & other elite. Hangers on Leeser , Archer , Birmingham , Bragg etc. Is anyone besides Price & Mundine caring about the real issues here. City voters have not even met an aboriginal. Wonder if the elder on Groote Eylandt who thinks they have everything under control , not one person in gaol etc. , will be happy when the voice takes control from him. Many reasons to VOTE NO.
Indigenous Australians have a voice just like every other Australians, every four years on Federal/State election days, a vote. Yes, will be a disaster for the country.
We don't need a voice we just need a solution to the corruption that exists with white Aboriginals who spend the money on themselves and not on the full blooded Aboriginal people that's what this is about
They may have settle on this land first but they did not build this country! I was born on this land it is much mine as it is theirs.
Born here, raised here, worked here, stuff the voice
I notice that the Yes campaigners only ever refer to Australia as belonging to indigenous … so for those of us born and raised in Australia, isn’t it OUR country too? Yes = racist division. No = united.
What is your ancestors background?.
@@beepbeep6861 how far back? my parents from Germany, you?
@@klausbalder6439 Well if you're not first nations, indigenous/aboriginal, you like your ancestors are not from here.
@@beepbeep6861 are you really that silly, who said indegenous/aboriginal even know, but nice dodge from where you are from?
Not wasting any more of my time listening, watching anything about this VOICE!!! My mind is made up...ITS A HUUUUUUGE NO TO APARTHEID!!!!
Dean Parkin appears to be a wonderful man but very compromised. There is so much to gain by so very few from implementing the Voice and all that ensues, that thinking clinically and clearly about this referendum is impossible.
He claims the Voice would unite the country but it will do anything but. The division is growing by the minute because a small group, who've done little to progress modern Australia, simply want to possess modern Australia. It's fair enough that the vast majority of the population who've worked very hard to progress this country and buy their land or their house, aren't too keen to suddenly become tenants paying rent.
People will fight for their land.
I'm not going to waste my time and watch this b.s. Vote no Australia. No to tribalism. No to racism. No to division.
Me too . I am sick of the lies and attacks on we who have worked and paid our whole lives for our country .
@@BlackStump172what about the people whose families were stolen? Poor you though right? Haha.
@@BlackStump172I'm African Australian originally from Ethiopia. I understand where you're coming from.
@@BlackStump172Your country, please tell me, how is it, your country.
@@mkgee4239You should know better.
I took away nothing from that doco. So it’s a definite NO from me.
Stop lying, your mind was already made up.
NO
Ding Ding
In the RED corner, slurring her words and standing 5'1 its .........
Ding Ding all right.
No,no, no
Mmm all looks like dangerous amounts of ignorance, stupidity or con artists after power and filling their pockets at anyone's expense... makes me sick
Vote NO NO NO NO!!!!!
Its a question that has an easy answer..... NO
Vote No. Why do I need to pay for something I wasn't part of. Crazy. Paying kids who had more opportunities than anyone.
Would you buy a used car without seeing it. NO.
NZ has a Māori tribunal for their parliament and it has been good for all New Zealanders!
I don’t see why everyone is so afraid of the voice. All it does , is allow the Aboriginal ppl to contribute recommendations to matters that affect Aboriginal Affairs. There is absolutely no power to veto any parliament legislation.
Ppl are just so afraid of change these days. bunch of cowards.
25 plus million afraid of the less than 1 million... They did a great job of keeping those numbers as low as possible
It's a NO from me. It like just signing a blank cheque, who in their right mind would do that? At the moment if we gave each first nation $1,000,000 per year and got rid of cash cows. We save nearly 30 billion a year. Cheers Graham.
More than 80% - best evidence says - goodnight. Vote Yes.
Unfortunately Matt Cunningham's reporting about Groote Eylandt omitted a very important aspect of that community... to the point of creating a misleading impression. The community's success came from massive support & work opportunities created in the early 1960s (& still going) from the Groote Eylandt Mining Company... Australia's largest source of Manganese. The aboriginal community has come a long way since then. I recall at the time of mining development, the white workers had to lock themselves in their corrugated iron dongas at night to protect themselves from rampaging aboriginals (referring to them as rock monkeys). I also recall workers stories of groups of aboriginals chasing their light commuter planes down the airstip as they took off, throwing spears at the plane. Opportunity for meaningful long-term work has made the world of difference to this very remote community.
Linda Burney is Australia's Nancy Pelosi!
With the cultural heritage act enacted in Western Australia without referendum or even consultation with landowners what other means can be expected from the voice to restrict landowners modifying their own property?
The heritage act is about land, though i fear the voice would stick its nose into everything they can.
@@daniellebcooper7160 everything it can mainly your bank accounts, post increased income taxation too
Lock you money away.
42:34 Wow, but his issues must be far greater than just this. Look, it is quite clear that each of Jacinta and Warren’s communities have rejected them. It’s like they don’t want their community to have a voice, because they want to be the voice for their communities. Their is personal recognition in it, there is power, respect and financial benefits.
I still dont get it.. why only voice for just one culture/race. Hows that gonna work??what about voice for Australians with other heritage... voice for Chinese Australians ? Muslim Australians?
god help us. One country, one law, one flag If thats not good enough, leave.
@@daniellebcooper7160At it again hey Danni girl, the first nations people only, have a problem with people like you, so I'll let you leave first, goodbye and good luck, have a nice life. 😂😂😂
Parkins not fooling anybody but himself!This Voice is definitely NOT uniting us!Its doing exactly the opposite 😢I fear for our society whichever way things go!😅
Sky Australia failed to establish why the current avenues for consultation have apparently failed, and how a small group of appointed activists will "fix" the current state of affairs.
Warren Mundine stated that there were already many "voices" , yet the interviewer didnt explore why this current process was failing. Why wasnt this openly debated in this programme ??
This dodging of the real debate without any real facts is a major failure of this documentary.
Why wasn't the elder on Groote Eylandt who says they have everything under control there now , not one person in gaol etc. , debated on whether he wants a Voice to Parliament committee taking control from the elders up there after the referendum. When it comes to propaganda it works both ways hey.
people get accused of being racist for speaking out on indigenous issues. which is why its been swept under the rug for so long, no politition wants to deal with it.....just keep giving them money to shut them up.
it is naive to think ‘the voice’ in its current wording once inshrined into the constitution, will not be taken advantage of by bad actors to weld power, no matter what good intention those who propose it have.
Linda dressed as a nun?
There has been a lot of fear-mongering about the voice, and a lot of myths spread.
If the reason you're thinking of voting no is because you're worried about legal challenges and the courts delaying processes, you can rest assured that the former Chief Justice of the High Court (a Liberal party member) along with Australia's Solicitor General have said that these concerns are not founded. The constitution will only require that a body called the voice will be established and they may make representations to the government.
There is NOTHING in the referendum and the proposed change that will allow the Voice to veto the government's decisions.
There will be NO requirement for the government to even consider the views of the Voice, but they will look like idiots if they don't follow sound advice on Aboriginal issues.
There is NOTHING in the referendum or the proposed change that will require compensation, loss of land or anything else... it just ensures that those affected can have a voice directly to the government about their views on policies and laws that affect them.
The Voice is only as divisive as opponents allow it to be.
The richest people in the country already have the ears of the government, this is an opportunity for Aboriginal people to also have their views heard.
Yes there are already Aboriginal people in parliament, BUT they are generally aligned with their political party first and foremost. Labor and Liberal ministers are bound to follow the party policy, and not vote against the party, even if Aboriginal politicians want to vote differently to the party.
The constitution is deliberately vague, and simply gives authority to the parliament to make laws, but doesn't tell them exactly how it should all be done.
If you're worried about there not being enough detail about the Voice, consider two things:
1. The Constitution is so vague that it doesn't even mention the role of the Prime Minister, but there is no concern about this lack of detail.
2. If Dutton is so concerned about the operation of the Voice, he can change the legislation if he comes to power to correct how it operates... he just can't remove it.
3. If it really is as bad as Dutton says it will be, he can hold another referendum to remove it - he's obviously not concerned about the cost of it as he's already said he'll hold another referendum if this doesn't get up.
Im sorry but this is sometbing bigger then a "voice" for indigenous now. This will introduce Racial Hierarchy into government and with a multicultural future for Australia we cant let that happen. No matter what.
The administrative machinery alone will cost $$$ billions for an entrenched parallel indigenous bureaucracy! God help us if the YES case gets up! Vote NO! Noel Pearson is gunning for Australian taxpayers!
This is bullshit. We all feel a connection to the land. Not just the nomad tribes.
What is your connection?.
When people are being attacked and lives threatened then you KNOW its NOT going to be a good thing. If they do that then how will they treat us if they get some power over us?
Stop living in fear, you sound p*ss weak. 😂😂😂
Send the Yes voters to Alice Springs for 1 week, they will be booking a greyhound bus or getting back into their housing boomer RV within hours of arriving, (those old fogies don't like planes).
@@rmac3217 Fear mongering is big business, these days. 😂😂😂
@@beepbeep6861 The crime rate in Alice Springs is over 10x that of an Eastern Coast major city, when it comes to domestic and sexual crimes that figure rises. Facts speak louder than a racist and anti-democratic voice.
Why does Linda Burney sound perpetually drunk?
$400k a year from the taxpayer can fill a few cellars
Just talking about the VOICE has divided Australia and families and Aboriginal people and they haven't announced the date for the referendum. The PM is not honest enough to spell out the total package the VOICE represents, Dont know , vote no
I feel like vomiting every time I hear Linda Burney speak. How did this person of such incompetence find her way to a Federal Minister's position. $396,000 per year... for what?
Wine by the sound of it
To Dear Prime Minister.
Why do we need the Voice?
Yes this was an aboriginal land but cannot always be because we can't deny the facts of where this land was before 1788 and where it is now. When Aboriginals had the land, what did they do with it.
I would be interested to know one road that Aboriginals built, one bridge that Aboriginals built, one school they built, one hospital is built by aboriginal community, one university built by Aboriginals.
This land is land of immigrants. More than 5 generations of European, Asians and British have worked hard to build this country it is today.
So why the privilege to one group only because their generations were born here first. Why racism to all those people from all over the world who call Australia HOME not being given same privileges.
Controlling their kids and teaching them not to steal is the prime responsibility of Aboriginal parent. Are they doing that right? That is the reason the kids are jailed
Nothing such as Voice can fix that!!
Why aren't Aboriginal parent send their kids to school. This is not a third world where we don't have enough schools. Why are Aboriginals dying with heart attacks because they smoke weed out of free money from. Centerlink. Voice is not going to fix that.
It's know when Aboriginals were given housing they destroyed every furniture because they like living wild.
Voice is nothing but Racism to all Australian tax payers.
A big No to Albo who wants to put his name in history and get famous.
But at same time he risks all future generations by making them tenants of Aboriginals
So why are we squandering countless millions on a useless referendum? Maybe the VOICE would like to kick in a few million $ from their war chest 🤑😡it's a huge NO for me & everyone I talk to feels the same. The cost of this referendum could have been used to actually help the indigenous (Australians 🙄🤔)if properly & fairly administered 🤫
Vote NO to the Trojan horse
As pointed out there are many different tribes of indigenous people yet Noel Pearson wants his people to have the voice so they can have the power. If people vote yes we are in a lot of trouble. BTW the attitude should be that if you are born here, you are indigenous regardless of the colour of your skin.
The problem is the tribal people in South Australia western Australia and the northern territory are ignored by the eastern states . It would seem the less Aboriginal blood you have the more attention you're able to get .when was the last time we saw a full blood being interviewed on television social media radio or anything like that we don't see that because this is about white Aborigines not the real ones that get no funding and are made to live under bits of corrugated iron while they're white cousins live in luxury
How about interviewing the numerous Aboriginal Elders and Community leaders appalled that
their names without their permission are on the Uluru Statement and the draft of the Voice To Parliament and want the canvas torn up they do not support this divisive canvas
Albo admits Treaty
So what’s the argument against legislating this idea first, to see how it works, rather than taking a giant leap of faith?
14:29 omg….🤦🏼♀️
If it's a yes, then it will be the end of the federation, as WA will leave, The constitution is Australia's birth certificate, it's what unites the country and the people, this referendum will divide the country,
I disagree absolutely.
You don't try and tell me these two facts back to back.
1. The natives need more power and control.
2. Individually the natives cannot control themselves or their communities.
Societies that embrace violence have too much of it
Exactly! They want control, can’t even control their own communities. We’re supposed to let them “hand CONTROL to the indigenous people” I THINK NOT!
80% of 300 indigenous people that were surveyed.
Great doco, still a NO.
The indigenous people already have a voice, every meeting, every function every event comes with smoking ceremony face painting and welcome to country. I am voting NO so I must be a racist, thats the story the yes campaigners are promoting. Albo and Burney are so aggressive when asked about how the voice will work.
Parliament House should be an Alcohol free zone like many workplaces.
One person. One vote....the voice is in democratic
It's a No for me
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Will those who live on communities, adhering to their traditional ways no longer want to do so under a voice? will the voice provide them with homes they won't destroy? I see many on the communities who look happy enough to be where and how they are, yes, standards of living need to be improved, but there are a lot of non indigenous people who's conditions need improving.
There's two issues first of all these people have just come out of a time capsule from a stone age period in human history they are different and they need different solutions. There has to be a way of building houses that they can't either burn down or kick down when they're drunk and stopping the alcohol is not going to work because they drive 1000 k's to go and get more . Not a lot of people realise how cold it gets in the desert at night and all times of year and if they're not moving around there's no wood to burn so the house is going to be the first to go , if the land council is not providing heating or ways of cooking what do they do . The secondly we need to deal with the white Aborigines who are not providing any funding and spending it on themselves which goes unchecked by the government that's causing the big problem the full bloods think the Australians are not giving them anything but it's the white cousins on the land councils who are stealing it
Matt your documentary is flawed to the extreme. How can we ever hope to offer an intelligent choice with our vote in the coming referendum for the 'Voice' when you and so many others including Anthony Albanese don't even know the true meaning of 'Indigenous'?
For the record as I have pointed out in other posts, Indigenous: 'born to that land'!
I, like so many million other indigenous Australians were born upon it and this is our land, our home' just as much as it is anyone else's!
I don't need to be welcomed to country like like you when first met by Dean Parkin...I'm home and always welcome here.
While I wholehearttily and sincerely mean all I had to say in my previous post 2 hour ago, I also believe if we are to achieve true recognition for all Australians then the current Aboriginal supporters for a 'Yes' vote need to pay careful attention to their 'welcome to country' ceromony and decide whether they want to keep their flag? After all, with so many different original tribes and groups making up the Aboriginal inhabitants of Australia, how many flags did they have?
While it is not an impossibilty to design and adopt a new Australian flag, they have to realize that 'welcome to country' has missed the boat by more than 200 years.
I am not responsible nor will I be held accountable for the sins and transgressions of the first Europeans to land here, I am however, in agreement for giving the Aboriginal people the services, respect, recognition and equal opportunity they all so richly deserve!
No no no!! We are all apart of this earth we all belong to this country.
Excuse me, who was here first.
@beepbeep6861 the oldest Australian citizen was here in Australia before all of us. They probably just over 100years old.
@@Hannah-201 Go back into your past and you'll see where you come from.
@beepbeep6861 you should also. If you claim your Indigenous I bet you also have European ancestors also
@@Hannah-201 Most of us are born here, but what is our connection, is it a historical or an ancient connection, this will sort most of us out, you'll probably run and hide.
One side wants a constitutional voice for a small group of citizens and the other doesn't want to change one already given, submissively, to a foreign monarch. Both sides are wrong. Our Constitution is for all Australians. A single united voice.
This voice will take the Indigenous people back hundreds of years.. It clearly states its an advisory board, and the parliament can choose to either accept or deny their requests.. We all know the govt are very deceptive on things.. The referendum should only be recognising indigenous people in our constitution then work from there.. Under this current referendum questions the answer is NO
No it won't, the only people, that are holding these people back, are us.
The govt is holding the back not the australians
@@beepbeep6861
Why should Aboriginals be recognized and not migrants? Sounds racist.
Might be time for all people born here to declare that they are indigenous.
How are you, indigenous to Australia, being born doesn't cut it.
Yes is the only genuine way forward ... everything else is backwards focussed and ongoingly disrespectful.
We already have voices in parliament, and there have been and continue to be millions$$s implemented into helping Australian Indigenous peoples. Money is not the answer to helping Indigenous peoples. It is about Indigenous families ceasing to pass on intergenerational anguish and resentment, which results in new generations harbouring anger. Change needs to happen in the families of Indigenous Australian peoples, for parents not to raise their children to have victim identities.
To do this, we have to stop with racism first, what do you think.
Who gets to be in this voice club? Will it be a democratic process or some kind of club?
What did Atsic the cash cow ever do for indigenous communities
Has anyone thought of the extra tax an average Australian will have to pay to support this whole voice to parliament body? Surely they are not going to be self funded.
It's fair to assert that North American Indians likely didn't view the chained African slaves as invaders, much like we don't assign blame to a baby born into poverty, as their futures were guided by the fundamental instinct of "self-preservation." However, when it comes to the convicts, including rebels from Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, who were transported in chains on the same slave ships after being defeated by the British during the Age of Empires, it seems they aren't afforded the same considerations, possibly due to their non-black identity. One in five Australians have convict heritage.
A hard NO from me.
A load of claptrap !!! Point !!!
The prime minister actually said on radio the other day he hasn't read the Uluru statement so why should we ? enough of this crap
I love youtube which enables me to say something, however right/wrong. The Voice is dead in the water.
#Australia_is_the_best🇦🇺🙏💌🧿🌹❤🇦🇺
Brace yourself for a Zimbabwe style economy. There are going to be a hell of a lot of pay outs so these ppl can "heal." Will others who have ancestors and loved ones who fought in Boer War, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, and Afghanistan also receive the same consideration for the intergenerational trauma caused from loved ones serving and protecting this great nation we call home? My loved one committed suicide after the trauma of fighting in Afghanistan.. He would have been devastated to see that the land he fought for and loved has a PM turning his back on all non-indigenous Australians. I am the descendant of ppl who have fought and died for this country because they too had a connection to this land. According the the 26 page document accessed through FOI we will be considered "criminals" basically committing "criminals acts" for being here and will have to pay $$. It's truly devastating. I wish thisPM would go. Where is the Governor General in all of this? Vacationing in Hawaii perhaps!? 😢
you do not need a voice to stop drinking
Who introduced the grog, drugs etc etc?.
When is the vote taking place??
The thinking is that it'll be in October. However, Albo may well delay it until things look better for him.
Things would rock if it wasn’t for the plebs
It should be clearly understood that, unlike all the other power-brokers who have formalised positions within our Constitution - the Members of Parliament, Senators, the High Court judges, the Governor-General, the military and civil servants, who are all elected or appointed for set terms and can be removed by being voted out, sacked or retired, with no expectation that they can pass their position onto a family member or descendant - the Voice members will be different. They will be ‘chosen’ [that is, appointed; free elections for the Group of 24 are not proposed] based on regional and family (tribal) connections. This will allow powerful Aboriginal families and clans to dominate the membership process and ensure that only their family members are chosen’.