Pretty much 90% of what Prost said and what he went through, can literally be seen in Ferrari today. Prost wanted to make Ferrari run more like McLaren which was an amazing organisation under Ron Dennis, and Ferrari need a leader like that now who will tell it like it is and perhaps could emulate the way Mercedes run their team. In the end Prost was laughing when he went to Williams and won his 4th title
@Aldas make another video of it pointing to Niki's time and the Brawn/Schumi/Todt era, clearly they need to be run by other nationalities, to much Italian pride and politics, this is not Rome!
Vettel is no Prost, it's a known fact he never had the mental grit to endure a bad situation and turn it into a success. Even when he was at RedBull, the moment something went wrong he would start to bitch and go into a shitstorm spiral. He's a great driver when he has the best car and everything goes according to plan, if that doesn't happen he'll crash into someone or some other drama.
@@ZeZeBatata69 What about Brazil 2012? He had irreparable damage to his car in tricky conditions but still managed to drive his car to the championship. I don't disagree with saying that he sometimes is torn between his heart and his head but sometimes will just get on with the situation.
@@ZeZeBatata69 yeah but that's usually the case with young drivers when they are in the start of their career, even Max was bitchy at the start but now look at him. Vettel struggles cause the car doesn't suit his driving style
@@ZeZeBatata69 Anyone who is confident tends to come out as bitchy at some point. That's because of a tendency to believe that things should be perfect which isn't always the case. So if there's a possibility of winning, anything less than that is just unsatisfactory.
Sooo… nothing has changed has it…? I mean I tell everybody that Schumacher's brilliance wasn't just on track but in how he managed to 'transform' Ferrari into a winning team bringing key people with him from Bennetton but people only like to se the numbers instead…
Very well said! I completely agree with every word! And I also think that Ferrari must look outside of their 'italian world' for their right leaders. Last time, it worked with a French manager, a British and a South African technical designers and a German driver :)
It always seemed to me that one of Schumacher's strengths compared to some of his Ferrari predecessors was that he never trashed the team or car. In 1996 he was resigned that the car (which as I understand it was mostly done before he came to the team) was not championship caliber. But he was always positive and encouraging about moving the team forward. Of course Brawn coming on board was huge, but MS was the one who initiated that. And thinking about human nature, when the face of the team acts like that, everyone else in the team at all levels will want to push as hard as possible too. Combine that with his driving talent in races and developing the car, and you have the dominance we eventually saw.
@@titan_fx i hope not, if i were ferrari, i'd say fuck 2021 and focus completely on 2022 and if they ace the regulations... well, maybe we will see a schumacher run for the drivers
@@kyanphan5839 This is already what it looks like happenned where they said fuck 2020 and ready 2021 but then coronavirus happenned and woops, our car sucks or two years.
@FiLOL broke Prost's records by following Prost's philosophy. Atleast Michael had Todt and Brawn with him to overthrow the toxic management. Prost was alone...
I recall a classic Gerhard Berger quote after Prost had been sacked which for me summed up the Ferrari logic. He said that Prost was the only person who could save Ferrari and they were currently paying him millions NOT to work for them.......
Well they also actually started to politick to get Kimi out of the team after he won the world championship in 2007, the very next year they were orchestrating ways to get him out of his contract due to the "Santander" sponsorship and to make way for Alonso but to do that they needed a reason so they changed his suspension mid season in 2008 without telling him and changed the balance of the car, naturally with a weak front end Kimi struggled to make the car work as he usually does so then they (Ferrari) started putting leaks out about Kimi's motivation being the reason truth is they couldn't kick Kimi out if he won the WDC in 2008 for them. This was during and after the Spanish GP in 2008 when he was leading the championship that year. They even paid him a ton of money not to race for them in 2010. Think it was €20 million euros.
@@Juandinggong Can't agree more. That whole fiasco with Kimi starting in 2008 was ridiculous. You have a fresh champion, on form, and what do you do? You try to sabotage him and push Massa. All for political's reasons and a future with Alonso. I respect Alonso's abilities, not so much the rest. And while he was very unlucky in 2010, it has been karma for Ferrari that Kimi is their last world champion and that they never won again. 2008 would've been in the bag too if they allowed Kimi to do his job. 2009 against the Brawn GP would've been more difficult of course, but in 2010 with Kimi they could've won again. Ferrari threw 1 or 2 other titles in the trash treating Raikkonen like they did.
@@ajmalhussain3574 Ferrari saw why Kimi won WDC in 2007. It is not because of Kimi's driving talent but because of internal fighting between two McLaren drivers that made them lost WDCs to Ferrari. And Kimi was behind Filipe Massa in 2008. That is why they didn't feel the need to keep Kimi.
Just by seeing what happened to Ferrari the following year, 1992, it is obvious who was right and who was very wrong. Ferrari in '88-'92 was rife with political struggles within the Fiat group to fill the power vacuum left by Enzo Ferrari in the F1 team. Ferrari was not worthy of Prost and Barnard, as simple as that. The main "if only" is what would have happened had the 643 been ready for the start of '91. Probably a few race wins and a less poisonous atmosphere, similar to 1990.
Wow, reminds me of this year... Like getting rid of Arrivabene for Binotto when Arrivabene had lead them to probably the best 2 seasons Ferrari have had in a decade. What a joke. Edit: Saying this as a life long Ferrari fan. And they are going to waste the careers of probably one of the greatest talents in a long time in Leclerc and a solid reliable driver in Sainz. Criminal.
Binotto is a great engineer but a crap principal. He designed the 2017 and 2018 car. When he became the principal 2019 car becomes crap, and the next year's is even crappier
@@d.a.5135 Possibly but Arrivabene's soothing and calm yet strong personality probably suited the Chaos of the Ferrari world better than the nice guy Binotto. The worst part of Ferrari honestly has been navigating the FIA imo which Toto Wolff seems to be a master of. Like with the DAS debacle. Christian Horner is raising hellfire with the FIA over it but imagine if Ferrari were right there with them? Instead, Binotto is MIA and the FIA passes it. They need another Jean Todt and Ross Brawn. Brawn always used to find clever loopholes and exploited them; and in turn, him or Todt won the fight with the FIA after. With the Ferrari engine debacle of last year; they probably found a loophole which was "legal" but not in spirit...and Binotto lost the war with the FIA. That's why we have a low drag concept cat with no straight line performance. LOL!
Binotto didn't want Arrivabene as team principal, he said something like: - or Arrivabene or me. So he became team principal and he didn't have enough time to design the car, and team principal shouldn't be his work.
Enzo Ferrari's culture, probably. He was a very persnickety person when it came to how the team was run. Didn't really have an open mind or flexibility in a management sense and I guess that mentality got inherited by his successors.
Additional note : -When Montezemolo came back as president of Ferrari, one of his first decision was to...bring Prost back to Ferrari. Just a couple of weeks after they sacked him... Prost declined, obviously. - Prost said he compared the steering of his Ferrari to a truck, not the Ferrari itself but the italian press made a bigger story about it (as always). But when Prost went to court against Ferrari for unfair dismissal, they apparently lost the video of the interview...
It is their "default setting". Only Lauda & Schumacher managed to change the culture. Sadly after they have gone, obviously the culture back to default. As Ecclestone said in an interview, the only person that probably can change the culture is Flavio Briatore with his dictatorial attitude, in which I can't agree more, he's an Italian and he's a dictator and he's a quick learner (he was introduced to F1 in 1990 by Benetton company boss, took over in 1991 and won World title in 1994!)
I mean, the biggest reasons for Ferrari's downfall in at any given point is that it's a more of a political organisation than a racing team. Ferrari's own worst enemy is pretty much always Ferrari.
In the loooong history of Ferrari only 5 names became world champion after they drove for the Scuderia. (Fangio, Andretti, Lauda, Prost and Mansell) Chances are if you drive for Ferrari and you dont win the WDC, you’re done.
And there are ONLY seven drivers who won their 1st WDC with SF, Ascari, Hawthorn, Phil Hill, Surtees, Lauda, Scheckter & Raikkonen. And if call modern-era started in 1970, then it's ony three.
From the dawn of the 3 liter era in 66, Ferrari was behind due to trying to beat Ford at Le Mans... When they finally gave up on sports car racing, they focused on F1 again, but didnt get their act together until the mid 70s. Ferrari struck gold with the 312t design and won 3 driver's championships with the 312t and the flat-12. The turbo era and ground effect era killed off that era of success. Then they didnt win anything at all until the Schumacher era... and the vestigial remnants of that regime delivered Kimi a title in 07.... Another drought ever since. Sure they've had close calls... but when you really sit back and look, they had two periods (75-80 and 97-07) where they were actually winning driver's championships. It's kind of depressing when you consider that.
Ron Dennis actually offered him a drive at McLaren for 1994 and tried to convince him to reconsider his retirement. Prost wisely declined but this proves that Prost was still in demand by the top teams. In 1996 Prost tested the new McLaren for an eventual comeback but the car wasn't very balanced so he realized it was pointless.
This made me appreciate and respect Prost even more! The "Crisis of optimism" was a brilliant statement by him. Incredibly relevant for many things in life.
Prost was right. He literally went from Ferrari to Williams and put the smackdaddy on the 1993 season and won the WDC again to rub it in Ferraris face.
FERRARI RUINED DRIVERS: Alain Prost Phil Hill John Surtees Felipe Massa Jean Alesi Rubens Barrichelo Fernando Alonso Kimi Raikonmen Sebastian Vettel RIP LEGENDS😭
Not really. Ferrari kept Raikkonen and Massa for a long time even though both drivers were underperforming plus Kimi won his only title there and Massa had his best chance to win a title there as well. Alonso and Vettel is also debatable - both had two shots to win the title and only could have got a better seat if they had gone to Red Bull (in Alonsos case) or Mercedes (in Vettels case).
alain was a technology tester. he was the only driver qualified to test the top tech that they were developing. he bounced around teams, just at the right time to drive the cars that were most experimental, and paved the future of f1, all except the william's active suspension.
I consider Prost to be the most complete driver of all time and not listening to him when he has so many complaints means that you are doomed to fail. Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher restructured Ferrari to such an extend that one cannot consider it as a traditional Ferrari team and that brought huge success. When these three left the team started slowly but surely sliding back to their old ways. Today we see the epitome of the results of Ferrari mismanagement
As an Italian who left the country 8 years ago, i can say that Ferrari resembles the static mentality of Italy and its people: "I'm always right", "it's not my fault", "bad luck is the reason of my failures. I never make mistakes", "I want to get the most, giving 0 effort".
To continue the comparison to more modern F1 - when Prost joined Mansell at Ferrari for 1990 it was similar to when Alonso joined Massa in 2010. Prost, like Alonso, was a multiple World Champion and the superior driver at most races. What Mansell did to Prost in Portugal in 1990 (swerving across Prost at the start and ruining Prost's race even though Prost was in a title fight) would have been the equivalent of Massa getting the "Fernando is faster than you" message in Germany 2010 and, instead of letting Alonso by, drove him off the circuit instead. With proper team support Prost would have won the title for Ferrari in 1990 but Mansell's ego was too fragile.
Prost was great in 1990 to be able to fight for the title with a car that, even if improved during the season, was still inferior to McLaren in most of the tracks. Should he have won at Estoril probably the momentum would have led to the championship. I remember italian media criticizing Prost also in that season, Mansell being very much more beloved by the press and the car supposed to be the best...
Mansell couldn't stand Prost don't blame him he made sure Nigel was given the crap car and he had the best one. I don't blame Nigel not wanting to help that creep out.
I really do not see why drivers would ever want to drive for ferrari. The team is ran on so much politics it is insane. No driver has ever been happy there
K M Alonso was their number 1 driver. You could argue Vettel was too during the Raikkonen years. I think it was more about Jean Todt and the leadership at the time.
It’s because it’s different from every other team, and it’s not me saying it, it’s the drivers themselves. If even Niki Lauda said “My head is with Mercedes (at that time he was Non-Executive President of Mercedes F1) but my heart is still with Ferrari. Every time they win, my heart beats fast” then it means something. (Lauda has even been buried with his Ferrari suit from 1975, as he wished). Then you have Jean Alesi, a man whose eyes still shine when he speaks of Ferrari, even if he had more bad moments than good moments. Even Vettel said that once you drive for Ferrari you become a fan for the rest of your life.
@@MPal24 Why would he do this? Well, Schumacher did it, and became a legend not only for his 91 wins, but because he brought back a championship to Ferrari. Even Ayrton Senna once said that he would have driven for Ferrari. He was with McLaren, the best toghether with Williams at that time, so why would he have done that? Ask yourself
I love how Prost said every problem of Ferrari and they just did nothing and fired him. And now just look at Ferrari today .... probably 90% of what he said is still here. I'm glad that Todt was able to apply what Prost said, but he is not here anymore
"Team without directive and without strategy..." It sounds like the Ferrari of the past 3 to 4, or more (sans the Schumacher/Barrichello/Todt years), years.
@@GTDpowah that depends, the Yamaha grand prix team is based in Italy and has been extremely successful using rational logic from the Japanese big wigs. Ducati has 2 titles to its name over the last 14 seasons using relatively rational management with only minor exceptions. Its a Ferrari thing more than an Italian thing. Enzo Ferrari was a dickhead anyway, and his team mirrored that.
Off course they were wrong. But yes only two drivers who managed to change team culture, Lauda & Schumacher, and sadly after them gone, team culture back to "default setting": totally disconnected with drivers during development and then slaving drivers to control the cars.
I mean you could tell something was up during the end of the Schumacher era when there were people in the Italian press complaining that Ferrari no longer felt like it was an Italian team because there were very few Italians left and Ferrari post-Montezemolo were hugely reactionary and went down that road and I think we've seen what happens. Prost also should share his part of the blame because his comments were getting extremely insufferable (mirroring the situation he was in) so there was no way that he was helping the situation. It's just a shame it didn't work out but Ferrari is a toxic place to be in - and having Nigel Mansell as your team-mate can also be a pain in the arse so it was never going to be enjoyable.
Ferrari were on a downward spiral from 91 onwards. I don’t think Prost as a driver could have done anything to stop that. A clean sweep at the top was need and that’s what happened with Tolt coming on board, but even then it took years to rebuild.
All this instability within the team is poisonous. Look at Ferrari nowadays, the exact same thing is happening, changing personnel on a whim and not giving them time to build the team. You can't bring in new people and suddenly get to the top, they will be too inexperienced, which is why Ferrari is struggling right now. Just look at how many bosses they threw out. In just 3 years they went from Domenically to Mattiaci and then arrivabene and as things were looking to gradually improve the went and changed things up again, in just 3 YEARS. And we can all see the result....
Ferrari will never change. The politics, the poor management and the often-made accusation that there are too many chiefs in the place. Their golden era when Michael Schumacher arrived did not come until his fifth year with the team and with his own key personnel at that ( by whom I mean Brawn, Todt, et al ). One only has to look at them now. With Alain Prost and Fernando Alonso, they should have cleaned up. Instead they allowed themselves to be taken to the cleaners. It's such a sad waste and a waste of the talent of some of the greatest drivers ever in the sport. When Jody Sheckter signed with the team, I recall Jackie Stewart remarked when asked that Ferrari was not the team he would go to by choice. Despite Sheckter's solus and gifted title ( because Giles Villeneuve should have been the champion ) in 1979, Stewart's comments hold true to this day.
'because Giles Villeneuve should have been the champion',, errr no. GV would have never been champion. Yes he was a natural driver, but you need more than that to win a WDC. Jody's techincal skill, racecraft and consistancy, won him the championship (wth very big help from the Michelin radials and Ferrari reliability). GV couldn't set a car up in a month of sundays, Jody did that in 1979. Once a real serious talent in the form of Didier Pironi turned up at Ferrari, GV was starting to look less than brilliant. If you think I'm hard on GV, then go and look back at some of the races he was in contention and then threw it away (Dutch 1979 is a case in point where Alan Jones worried GV into the most amateur of mistakes) and say to me he could have been WDC
Being a Ferrari fan and Italian I was too young to remember the struggles of the 90s and the political mess Ferrari were going through. A lot of people don't seem to understand that not long ago Enzo Farrari had passed and before the great man left us it was his way of running things or nothing mentality and I think Luca Di Montezomolo wanted to replicate the great man philosophy but with the Agnelli family (FIAT) becoming more involved it always difficult recreate what Enzo had done for decades before his passing. I became a fan from 95 onwards what Jean Todt and Luca did was very risky and expensive because getting a driver like Michael Schumacher from Benetton when he was winning titles against a very good Williams team you must back it up with a car that can win titles. I think Michael knew it was going to be a challenge and that's why he went but I don't think he understood the history and traditions behind it in his early start at Ferrari it took him a few years maybe the first title at Ferrari in 2000 when he finally understood the meaning of being a Ferrari driver. That being said I think Prost wanted that at Ferrari after his departure in a bitter way at Mclaren with Ron and Senna and wanted to prove them what he is capable of without Mclaren. If Prost had Todt and Brawn in the team I think the Schumacher era would have happened much earlier than 96-2006.
I know many don't like Prost but you can't deny he was a hell of a driver. I miss the Senna, Mansel, Prost days. Real characters driving and both cars and drivers had personality. Also. That 7up liveried Jordan 191...isnt that just the best looking F1 car ever!
A lot of what he tried to do was put in place later on. how do you say that and then say maybe he was right it's not maybe it's he was right A lot of what he tried to do was use later on, on a extremely dominant team
Prost was a good organiser. He wasn't as focused on just driving as Senna was. He was very influencial in the technical and administrative functions. Maybe too loyal. Probably his biggest mistake was buying Ligier when it was already on the way down and depending on promises of politicians to ensure financial backing. Still one of the best drivers ever
When Ross Brawn took over the team he made it mandatory that the language among the team be ENGLISH. The Italians are very emotional by nature and sometimes that’s an issue. Now that McLaren is finding its feet Sainz may join the list of “ used to drive for Ferrari” drivers which would be a shame. How many chiefs have this team had in the last 5 years. No stability. This is a terrible shame because they are legends. Only time will tell.
Ferrari with a great team manager like Jean Todt won everything. Prost was right and if they would have listened him he would won the 1990 world championship for sure.
I always grew up a blind senna fan, only now do I see how Prost was also one of the top 5 drivers of all time. Ps: 10 minutes of looking at photos of the 643 has been a pleasure hahahah
Remember Prost was great at setting up the cars. He also had a great mentor Lauda who taught him even more about setup. It was Lauda that turned Ferrari around in the 70's. I remember watching F1 during those times and Ferrari had issues and was never consistent. We can all play "What if" with this scenario. In all sports it takes great people to accomplish great results. All sports teams go in cycles of winning their respective championships.
Impulsiveness has no place in a technical sport/work place. This is why Mercedes is such a powerhouse. They don't relax when things are good, they don't let tension build, they are very transparent. "This is why things are the way they are and we all need to get on top of it. Your personal dramas are not for the work place. We need everyone to work together to maximize productivity." That's their attitude in a nutshell.
It always makes me a strange effect to me seeing n.27 both on Prost's and Gilles' Ferraris, two such different drivers having the same number... History is anyway repeating, it's absurd to see how we haven't learnt from the errors of the past... Why we always have to have these long droughts? We should have learnt from the previous two...
Seeing today how talented Prost is to lead a team (Prost ACer already could have been really successful if many things didnt go wrong) Ferrari definatley should have listened more to him but then maybe they wouldnt have brought in di Montezemolo
The race is a world apart and in a different class than what autosport is putting out recently... autosport is terrible with who they have on their team right now and long may it last... keep it up the race.
Would have been great for prost to be wdc but the Italians don't like criticism as I've found out working with them and it's a shame that Ferrari have a revolving management style and a dirty habit of chucking out drivers that alleged to be past their best and I can't them getting things sorted out and the driver to be champion was raikkonen so it says a lot.
Well he wasn't "fired". Prost was "fired" by Ferrari. Frentzen was "fired" by Jordan. Hill just did not have his contract renewed as it expired at the end of 1996. Not retaining a driver and firing them are two different things.
CapHowdy They made the decision not to renew Hill’s contract during 1995... while Hill wasn’t performing well and made a few mistakes. Williams were then shocked as Hill dominated in 1996. Frank Williams later admitted that he had underestimated Hill and his speed, and had always regretted the decision.
@@CapHowdy Yes indeed they are different but for the intents and purposes of my request, it'll do. Just as this video focuses on what led up to Prost being fired, I was more interested in seeing a video about what led up to Hill's departure, rather than the specifics of whether he was fired or the team had his contract lapse.
Only 2 drivers have won the WDC in the past 40 years for Ferrari, says a lot about their management. If Prost had the team/framework The Michael had he could've been 6x or 7x WDC no doubt.
@@gorkab8461Kimi had a lot of reliability issues resulting in DNFs in 2007 while Lewis just had a gearbox issue in Brazil and Alonso had none. so he should’ve won the title regardless and was not lucky because of Mclaren.
PC language affects on describing a Ferrari F1 car. Lauda - 1973 - “Sh-.” Prost - 1991 - “truck”. Vettel - 2020 - too muzzled by PR handlers to say anything not run thru a legal team first.
Ferrari are their own worst enemy. It sucks for Vettel because his nostalgia blinded him to the fact that it was Schumacher and his entourage who made Ferrari the beastly contender that it was back in the day, not the actual Italians in the team. I don't see things going any better for Leclerc in the future.
If Alain Prost was driving for you and you weren't winning, the problem was NOT the driver! The only reason Ferrari won with Schumi was that he brought half of Benetton along for the ride. They managed to change the culture...for a while.
Bunch of wankers not hypocrites. Literally I don't know any Ferrari's fan outside Italy that would think that bringing another Italian to govern F1 team is a good idea, everyone thinks that they need foreigners to put it again on winning track. All those years with Vettel were lost as clearly they never give him power and authority like they earlier gave to Michael.
90% of their fans don't even know where the emblem of the brand originally comes from so they're not fit to assess or judge anything. I always say that Ferrari is the motor sport equivalent of Elvis Presley. Those who know music know that he never wrote a single song on his own, didn't pioneer rock'n roll and certainly didn't develop it further and yet he somehow became "the world's greatest artist". A legend due to accessibility to the public. Ferrari is the same way. Legends only to those who don't understand engineering and the history of innovation in motor sport. The great driver Fangio was clear in his opinion as was the legendary racer/constructor Carroll Shelby. That's naming but a few.
Because fanboys have their noses so far up Ferrari’s ass that they are completely blind to any wrongdoing by the Scuderia, even though history shows it’s plain to see.
Prost more importantly would have won the 1990 title for Ferrari if Senna hadn't rammed him off the road at Suzuka. That was the watershed moment for mine. He would have had enormous clout if he pulled that off, just like Schumacher did once he broke through in 2000. The Scuderia would have done well to listen to Prost. But as always with Ferrari, their own politics and ego often trip them up. Lucky escape for Prost. Opportunity missed for Ferrari.
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Prost was obviously right. Ferrari only managed one title since 1979 that was not won by Schumacher and Schumacher did exactly what Prost wanted but failed. Now to be fair Schumacher was probably a better driver than Prost and so was Senna but Alain was one of the best and honestly more than Ferrari deserved in 1990. The last time they were competitive was in 1982 and somewhat in 1985, then they kind of struggled until Michael came and literally remade the whole team. Schumacher was the only driver that had enough political skills and carisma to get the job done and that's why he deserves additional respect. I'm not a huge fan of Michael because of things he did to Damon Hill in 1996 and attempted to do to Jacques Villeneuve in 1997, but still. He's probably the best driver of all time and if not then he's certainly the second best right behind Hamilton.
I think you give a bit too much credit for Schumi turning Ferrari around, he didn't do it on his own. I reckon if Prost has had Todt and Brawn backing him, he might have returned Ferrari to WC-winning ways as well. As for who is the better driver, I always think that Prost is underrated due to the more conservative style he adopted after Pironi's crash. I think a comparison that involves the younger, more aggressive version of Prost, who was significantly faster than all his teammates, would show that the gap between him and prime Senna and Schumi isn't as big as people think.
@@cchuvan I think Prost is one of the best F1 drivers in F1 history. I was a huge fan and since his retirement in 1993 I haven't really cheered for anyone the way I cheered for Prost. I loved Prost. I liked Jacques Villeneuve, I cheered for Kimi and I also liked Vettel. In any case I did notice that young Prost was possibly the best F1 driver of his time in 1980 - 1984 period. Senna was the only driver that was better than him and then Schumacher. I don't think Piquet or Mansell were better than Prost :)
Well, the Schumacher era success was built under the leadership of Ross Brawn and the Benneton staff that followed him. It was that 'british' approach that Prost longed for in his Ferrari days.
Prost was vilified back then for basically seeing through - and not putting up with - the bullshit. He was mostly interested in being the best, and doing it for the love of driving racecars. I don't think he was big on the teammates thing, and he certainly wasn't going to be a sycophant for anybody but himself. A complicated figure, but he knew what he was talking about.
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Pretty much 90% of what Prost said and what he went through, can literally be seen in Ferrari today. Prost wanted to make Ferrari run more like McLaren which was an amazing organisation under Ron Dennis, and Ferrari need a leader like that now who will tell it like it is and perhaps could emulate the way Mercedes run their team. In the end Prost was laughing when he went to Williams and won his 4th title
Well, that just proves how much Ferrari never really changed..
Thats exactly what Vettel tried to do, he tried to get them running like Red Bull!
Binotto is probably gonna get the axe.
@@yashkatare3303 His name is Waldo ;)
@Aldas make another video of it pointing to Niki's time and the Brawn/Schumi/Todt era, clearly they need to be run by other nationalities, to much Italian pride and politics, this is not Rome!
“Stand outside Ferrari and you’ll wonder how they don’t win everything. Stand inside Ferrari and you’ll wonder how they win anything.”
Interesting. Who said that?
@@bassmunk Any foreigner who ever worked there!
pretty much very Italian. you could even wonder why they're a "team" at all
@@shotsfiredandmissed9068 yep.. very Italian.. most winning team in F1 EVER!!
Still the most successful team by a long way.
Sounds like typical Ferrari
Ferrari in trouble, so their only answer was to fire the only person in the team that remembered winning. Sound familiar?
Vettel is no Prost, it's a known fact he never had the mental grit to endure a bad situation and turn it into a success. Even when he was at RedBull, the moment something went wrong he would start to bitch and go into a shitstorm spiral. He's a great driver when he has the best car and everything goes according to plan, if that doesn't happen he'll crash into someone or some other drama.
@@ZeZeBatata69 What about Brazil 2012? He had irreparable damage to his car in tricky conditions but still managed to drive his car to the championship. I don't disagree with saying that he sometimes is torn between his heart and his head but sometimes will just get on with the situation.
@@ZeZeBatata69 yeah but that's usually the case with young drivers when they are in the start of their career, even Max was bitchy at the start but now look at him. Vettel struggles cause the car doesn't suit his driving style
@@ZeZeBatata69 Anyone who is confident tends to come out as bitchy at some point. That's because of a tendency to believe that things should be perfect which isn't always the case. So if there's a possibility of winning, anything less than that is just unsatisfactory.
@@ZeZeBatata69 You confused Lewis or Alonso with Seb
All things aside, that 643 is looking absolutely stunning
It was a beauty!
One of the most beautiful to never win a race sadly.
@@Leopardo_Bianco That's a good idea for a video, maybe it's been done already?
I make my case that the 642 from early 1991,which was a modified 641,was already gorgeous
Yes. It was a fast car too, but only on smooth track.
Sooo… nothing has changed has it…?
I mean I tell everybody that Schumacher's brilliance wasn't just on track but in how he managed to 'transform' Ferrari into a winning team bringing key people with him from Bennetton but people only like to se the numbers instead…
Very well said! I completely agree with every word! And I also think that Ferrari must look outside of their 'italian world' for their right leaders. Last time, it worked with a French manager, a British and a South African technical designers and a German driver :)
@@costingxg I think it was Coulthard at the Austrian/Styrian GP that Ferrari should move to the UK ... can you imagine!?
Ross Brawn was the main driving force behind the transformation.
Don't forget Todt and Brawn
It always seemed to me that one of Schumacher's strengths compared to some of his Ferrari predecessors was that he never trashed the team or car. In 1996 he was resigned that the car (which as I understand it was mostly done before he came to the team) was not championship caliber. But he was always positive and encouraging about moving the team forward. Of course Brawn coming on board was huge, but MS was the one who initiated that. And thinking about human nature, when the face of the team acts like that, everyone else in the team at all levels will want to push as hard as possible too. Combine that with his driving talent in races and developing the car, and you have the dominance we eventually saw.
Now Ferrari is a clown and Sainz is heading into a hellhole
Is Sainz's career over?
@@titan_fx i hope not, if i were ferrari, i'd say fuck 2021 and focus completely on 2022 and if they ace the regulations... well, maybe we will see a schumacher run for the drivers
@@kyanphan5839 This is already what it looks like happenned where they said fuck 2020 and ready 2021 but then coronavirus happenned and woops, our car sucks or two years.
Aslamnur Fikri Its Alesi all over again
Titan FX pls don’t say that
Went to Williams and won another title in Ferrari's face
FiLOL LOL
@FiLOL With a little help from Ferrari International Assistance.
@FiLOL broke Prost's records by following Prost's philosophy. Atleast Michael had Todt and Brawn with him to overthrow the toxic management. Prost was alone...
@FiLOL a Ferrari team led by a group of non Italians.
Yes, both with Mansell in separate year.
I recall a classic Gerhard Berger quote after Prost had been sacked which for me summed up the Ferrari logic. He said that Prost was the only person who could save Ferrari and they were currently paying him millions NOT to work for them.......
Well they also actually started to politick to get Kimi out of the team after he won the world championship in 2007, the very next year they were orchestrating ways to get him out of his contract due to the "Santander" sponsorship and to make way for Alonso but to do that they needed a reason so they changed his suspension mid season in 2008 without telling him and changed the balance of the car, naturally with a weak front end Kimi struggled to make the car work as he usually does so then they (Ferrari) started putting leaks out about Kimi's motivation being the reason truth is they couldn't kick Kimi out if he won the WDC in 2008 for them. This was during and after the Spanish GP in 2008 when he was leading the championship that year. They even paid him a ton of money not to race for them in 2010. Think it was €20 million euros.
@@ajmalhussain3574 true
Ajmal Hussain Ferrari seems to be run by idiots.
@@Juandinggong Can't agree more. That whole fiasco with Kimi starting in 2008 was ridiculous.
You have a fresh champion, on form, and what do you do? You try to sabotage him and push Massa. All for political's reasons and a future with Alonso.
I respect Alonso's abilities, not so much the rest. And while he was very unlucky in 2010, it has been karma for Ferrari that Kimi is their last world champion and that they never won again.
2008 would've been in the bag too if they allowed Kimi to do his job. 2009 against the Brawn GP would've been more difficult of course, but in 2010 with Kimi they could've won again.
Ferrari threw 1 or 2 other titles in the trash treating Raikkonen like they did.
@@ajmalhussain3574 Ferrari saw why Kimi won WDC in 2007. It is not because of Kimi's driving talent but because of internal fighting between two McLaren drivers that made them lost WDCs to Ferrari. And Kimi was behind Filipe Massa in 2008. That is why they didn't feel the need to keep Kimi.
Had the pleasure of meeting Alain Prost at Silvertstone in 1993. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
you mean he was "little Frenchman" ? ;) just like Murray Walker used to say....?
Just by seeing what happened to Ferrari the following year, 1992, it is obvious who was right and who was very wrong. Ferrari in '88-'92 was rife with political struggles within the Fiat group to fill the power vacuum left by Enzo Ferrari in the F1 team. Ferrari was not worthy of Prost and Barnard, as simple as that. The main "if only" is what would have happened had the 643 been ready for the start of '91. Probably a few race wins and a less poisonous atmosphere, similar to 1990.
Wow, reminds me of this year...
Like getting rid of Arrivabene for Binotto when Arrivabene had lead them to probably the best 2 seasons Ferrari have had in a decade. What a joke.
Edit: Saying this as a life long Ferrari fan. And they are going to waste the careers of probably one of the greatest talents in a long time in Leclerc and a solid reliable driver in Sainz.
Criminal.
Binotto is a great engineer but a crap principal. He designed the 2017 and 2018 car. When he became the principal 2019 car becomes crap, and the next year's is even crappier
Marchionne deserves far more credit than Arrivabene tbh. People forget that Arrivabene himself didn't manage the team well after Marchionnes death.
@@d.a.5135 Possibly but Arrivabene's soothing and calm yet strong personality probably suited the Chaos of the Ferrari world better than the nice guy Binotto.
The worst part of Ferrari honestly has been navigating the FIA imo which Toto Wolff seems to be a master of.
Like with the DAS debacle. Christian Horner is raising hellfire with the FIA over it but imagine if Ferrari were right there with them? Instead, Binotto is MIA and the FIA passes it.
They need another Jean Todt and Ross Brawn. Brawn always used to find clever loopholes and exploited them; and in turn, him or Todt won the fight with the FIA after. With the Ferrari engine debacle of last year; they probably found a loophole which was "legal" but not in spirit...and Binotto lost the war with the FIA. That's why we have a low drag concept cat with no straight line performance. LOL!
Binotto didn't want Arrivabene as team principal, he said something like: - or Arrivabene or me. So he became team principal and he didn't have enough time to design the car, and team principal shouldn't be his work.
I have read that he threatened to switch to Mercedes if he could not become the team principal of Ferrari.
Seems like Ferrari is permanently in crisis management mode even to this day.
Crisis MISmanagement. ;)
It is easier to count when Ferrari wasn't in crisis than to count when it was.
The crisis only took a short break between 2000 and 2007.
I mean that mode is everyday in Fiat Chrysler, you should also see their reliability records so far
Enzo Ferrari's culture, probably. He was a very persnickety person when it came to how the team was run. Didn't really have an open mind or flexibility in a management sense and I guess that mentality got inherited by his successors.
Additional note :
-When Montezemolo came back as president of Ferrari, one of his first decision was to...bring Prost back to Ferrari. Just a couple of weeks after they sacked him... Prost declined, obviously.
- Prost said he compared the steering of his Ferrari to a truck, not the Ferrari itself but the italian press made a bigger story about it (as always). But when Prost went to court against Ferrari for unfair dismissal, they apparently lost the video of the interview...
Does anyone think any of this has changed? Except that Vettel is too polite to say anything...
He might speak up when he leaves ferrari for good
He never criticise his team...atleast not in public.
@@chrispalmer3096 who knows at this point only kimi and vettel can tell what is happening in there
Vettel is Too Rich to say anything 5 years winning nothing
It is their "default setting". Only Lauda & Schumacher managed to change the culture. Sadly after they have gone, obviously the culture back to default.
As Ecclestone said in an interview, the only person that probably can change the culture is Flavio Briatore with his dictatorial attitude, in which I can't agree more, he's an Italian and he's a dictator and he's a quick learner (he was introduced to F1 in 1990 by Benetton company boss, took over in 1991 and won World title in 1994!)
I mean, the biggest reasons for Ferrari's downfall in at any given point is that it's a more of a political organisation than a racing team.
Ferrari's own worst enemy is pretty much always Ferrari.
I agree with you on that.
Cliche of peace!
yeah its not even a family anymore, where other teams treat themselves like family
No wonder, it all to Clear
"The problem with Ferrari sometimes is there's too much Ferrari in Ferrari" ~ Flavio Briatore
In the loooong history of Ferrari only 5 names became world champion after they drove for the Scuderia. (Fangio, Andretti, Lauda, Prost and Mansell)
Chances are if you drive for Ferrari and you dont win the WDC, you’re done.
Schumi?
@@jackhands31 read the comment again bro. They got another title after driving for Ferrari.
Ah i see
And there are ONLY seven drivers who won their 1st WDC with SF, Ascari, Hawthorn, Phil Hill, Surtees, Lauda, Scheckter & Raikkonen. And if call modern-era started in 1970, then it's ony three.
From the dawn of the 3 liter era in 66, Ferrari was behind due to trying to beat Ford at Le Mans... When they finally gave up on sports car racing, they focused on F1 again, but didnt get their act together until the mid 70s. Ferrari struck gold with the 312t design and won 3 driver's championships with the 312t and the flat-12. The turbo era and ground effect era killed off that era of success. Then they didnt win anything at all until the Schumacher era... and the vestigial remnants of that regime delivered Kimi a title in 07.... Another drought ever since. Sure they've had close calls... but when you really sit back and look, they had two periods (75-80 and 97-07) where they were actually winning driver's championships. It's kind of depressing when you consider that.
Which of these is more probable?
Statistically the greatest driver at the time, being wrong.
Or
An incompetent car
theres an old saying in the UK ... Italian tanks have 1 forward gear and 10 reverse gears
Heard that about another country, but the flag is very similar...
10,000 Italian WWII rifles for sale. Never fired. Only dropped once.
Prost took a year off and came back to win the F1 title with Williams in 1993. Retired on top.
Ron Dennis actually offered him a drive at McLaren for 1994 and tried to convince him to reconsider his retirement. Prost wisely declined but this proves that Prost was still in demand by the top teams. In 1996 Prost tested the new McLaren for an eventual comeback but the car wasn't very balanced so he realized it was pointless.
My grandmother could've won the championship in the FW-15c.
@@paulallen8109 Prost tested every McLaren 1994, 1995 and 1996.
@@MrTommySullivan Williams wanted Senna for the 1993 season but Prost say no. Senna joined Williams the next year.
Yea with a juked up car lol. Prost was a coward.
Carlos Sainz be like: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!
This made me appreciate and respect Prost even more! The "Crisis of optimism" was a brilliant statement by him. Incredibly relevant for many things in life.
Prost was right. He literally went from Ferrari to Williams and put the smackdaddy on the 1993 season and won the WDC again to rub it in Ferraris face.
FERRARI RUINED DRIVERS:
Alain Prost
Phil Hill
John Surtees
Felipe Massa
Jean Alesi
Rubens Barrichelo
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikonmen
Sebastian Vettel
RIP LEGENDS😭
How ironic Raikkonen earned the team their latest WDC...
You forgot Jean Alesi
Not really. Ferrari kept Raikkonen and Massa for a long time even though both drivers were underperforming plus Kimi won his only title there and Massa had his best chance to win a title there as well.
Alonso and Vettel is also debatable - both had two shots to win the title and only could have got a better seat if they had gone to Red Bull (in Alonsos case) or Mercedes (in Vettels case).
Nigel Mansell
Rubens Barrichello
At least Kimi won a championship, but once Jean Todt had left it was crystal clear he was yesterday’s man.
alain was a technology tester. he was the only driver qualified to test the top tech that they were developing. he bounced around teams, just at the right time to drive the cars that were most experimental, and paved the future of f1, all except the william's active suspension.
Let’s hope history repeats itself and Sebastian wins his 5th title with Aston Martin.
Ohh I will love to see Ferrari see that happen.
Wont happent this year maybe 2022
That’s a lot to hope for, I Hope he can finish the season
...man.
I consider Prost to be the most complete driver of all time and not listening to him when he has so many complaints means that you are doomed to fail. Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher restructured Ferrari to such an extend that one cannot consider it as a traditional Ferrari team and that brought huge success. When these three left the team started slowly but surely sliding back to their old ways. Today we see the epitome of the results of Ferrari mismanagement
As an Italian who left the country 8 years ago, i can say that Ferrari resembles the static mentality of Italy and its people: "I'm always right", "it's not my fault", "bad luck is the reason of my failures. I never make mistakes", "I want to get the most, giving 0 effort".
To continue the comparison to more modern F1 - when Prost joined Mansell at Ferrari for 1990 it was similar to when Alonso joined Massa in 2010. Prost, like Alonso, was a multiple World Champion and the superior driver at most races. What Mansell did to Prost in Portugal in 1990 (swerving across Prost at the start and ruining Prost's race even though Prost was in a title fight) would have been the equivalent of Massa getting the "Fernando is faster than you" message in Germany 2010 and, instead of letting Alonso by, drove him off the circuit instead.
With proper team support Prost would have won the title for Ferrari in 1990 but Mansell's ego was too fragile.
Prost was great in 1990 to be able to fight for the title with a car that, even if improved during the season, was still inferior to McLaren in most of the tracks. Should he have won at Estoril probably the momentum would have led to the championship. I remember italian media criticizing Prost also in that season, Mansell being very much more beloved by the press and the car supposed to be the best...
That Mansell... I hate the 1990 Portuguese GP footage. How can one be so dumb? That could have been the Championship.
T Ryan. Yes. Totally right
Mansell couldn't stand Prost don't blame him he made sure Nigel was given the crap car and he had the best one. I don't blame Nigel not wanting to help that creep out.
And no one in the paddock could stand stand Nigel so....
Prost : " The cars handles like a truck "
Guys on the suits at Ferrari : " So you have chosen DEATH "
Funnily enough, it s his job to say that. he s the pilot.
I really do not see why drivers would ever want to drive for ferrari. The team is ran on so much politics it is insane. No driver has ever been happy there
Pretty sure Schumacher was happy there.
@@fenhen because schumacher rose them from dirt and was the number 1 driver
K M Alonso was their number 1 driver. You could argue Vettel was too during the Raikkonen years.
I think it was more about Jean Todt and the leadership at the time.
It’s because it’s different from every other team, and it’s not me saying it, it’s the drivers themselves. If even Niki Lauda said “My head is with Mercedes (at that time he was Non-Executive President of Mercedes F1) but my heart is still with Ferrari. Every time they win, my heart beats fast” then it means something. (Lauda has even been buried with his Ferrari suit from 1975, as he wished). Then you have Jean Alesi, a man whose eyes still shine when he speaks of Ferrari, even if he had more bad moments than good moments. Even Vettel said that once you drive for Ferrari you become a fan for the rest of your life.
@@MPal24 Why would he do this? Well, Schumacher did it, and became a legend not only for his 91 wins, but because he brought back a championship to Ferrari. Even Ayrton Senna once said that he would have driven for Ferrari. He was with McLaren, the best toghether with Williams at that time, so why would he have done that? Ask yourself
I love how Prost said every problem of Ferrari and they just did nothing and fired him. And now just look at Ferrari today .... probably 90% of what he said is still here.
I'm glad that Todt was able to apply what Prost said, but he is not here anymore
Drivers age at twice the rate when they're with Ferrari.
"Team without directive and without strategy..." It sounds like the Ferrari of the past 3 to 4, or more (sans the Schumacher/Barrichello/Todt years), years.
The main problem with Ferrari is that it's run emotionally rather than rationally.
That's kind of the Italian way.
like an ex-wife right?
@@GTDpowah that depends, the Yamaha grand prix team is based in Italy and has been extremely successful using rational logic from the Japanese big wigs.
Ducati has 2 titles to its name over the last 14 seasons using relatively rational management with only minor exceptions.
Its a Ferrari thing more than an Italian thing.
Enzo Ferrari was a dickhead anyway, and his team mirrored that.
yeah and rather playing with emotions of drivers
Prost foreshadowing 2020
He was right in the end
so basically in the early 90‘s the same things were wrong like today
Some things never change
And obviously Vettel didn't learn from his predecessor when he signed the contract
Yep. Everyone have a plan when they go to Ferrari, but Ferrari ruins it everytime, I mean at least they didn't for Michael.
@@anthony.esper21 , pray for Sainz
Off course they were wrong. But yes only two drivers who managed to change team culture, Lauda & Schumacher, and sadly after them gone, team culture back to "default setting": totally disconnected with drivers during development and then slaving drivers to control the cars.
Wow that relationship really was doomed. I didn’t realise what a mess it was before he called it a truck!
Schumi called the 1996 Ferrari a car with a Parachute ... wake up Lauda Said the Ferrari was Trash
bcause at that time there wasnt a GP2 yet 😎
@@wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777 Formula 3000 is the predecessor to GP2, so technically there was
@@CP-kb1du Ferrari engineer: "It's a Ferrari!", Lauda: "It's a shitbox!"
No matter how slow it was, but the look of that 643 is just 🤤
Ferrari and politics - they go together and yet it is the one thing that consistently sets Ferrari back.
Next topic: Did Vettel get a lucky escape in 2020?
Probably. And Ricciardo dodged a bullet by missing out on a Ferrari seat.
@@SamuelSantos_ both are lucky
when you get kicked out and you're happy...
I still think he is underrated and shown as a villain by a lot of sources
I mean you could tell something was up during the end of the Schumacher era when there were people in the Italian press complaining that Ferrari no longer felt like it was an Italian team because there were very few Italians left and Ferrari post-Montezemolo were hugely reactionary and went down that road and I think we've seen what happens. Prost also should share his part of the blame because his comments were getting extremely insufferable (mirroring the situation he was in) so there was no way that he was helping the situation. It's just a shame it didn't work out but Ferrari is a toxic place to be in - and having Nigel Mansell as your team-mate can also be a pain in the arse so it was never going to be enjoyable.
Ferrari were on a downward spiral from 91 onwards. I don’t think Prost as a driver could have done anything to stop that. A clean sweep at the top was need and that’s what happened with Tolt coming on board, but even then it took years to rebuild.
All this instability within the team is poisonous. Look at Ferrari nowadays, the exact same thing is happening, changing personnel on a whim and not giving them time to build the team. You can't bring in new people and suddenly get to the top, they will be too inexperienced, which is why Ferrari is struggling right now. Just look at how many bosses they threw out. In just 3 years they went from Domenically to Mattiaci and then arrivabene and as things were looking to gradually improve the went and changed things up again, in just 3 YEARS. And we can all see the result....
If Prost had his way since 1990, Ferrari would've won that championship and have a car to fight for another in 91.
OMG those were beautiful cars back then! So sleek and ”clean” looking compared to today’s overloaded monsters. I miss those times...
Ferrari will never change. The politics, the poor management and the often-made accusation that there are too many chiefs in the place. Their golden era when Michael Schumacher arrived did not come until his fifth year with the team and with his own key personnel at that ( by whom I mean Brawn, Todt, et al ).
One only has to look at them now. With Alain Prost and Fernando Alonso, they should have cleaned up. Instead they allowed themselves to be taken to the cleaners. It's such a sad waste and a waste of the talent of some of the greatest drivers ever in the sport. When Jody Sheckter signed with the team, I recall Jackie Stewart remarked when asked that Ferrari was not the team he would go to by choice. Despite Sheckter's solus and gifted title ( because Giles Villeneuve should have been the champion ) in 1979, Stewart's comments hold true to this day.
'because Giles Villeneuve should have been the champion',, errr no. GV would have never been champion. Yes he was a natural driver, but you need more than that to win a WDC. Jody's techincal skill, racecraft and consistancy, won him the championship (wth very big help from the Michelin radials and Ferrari reliability). GV couldn't set a car up in a month of sundays, Jody did that in 1979. Once a real serious talent in the form of Didier Pironi turned up at Ferrari, GV was starting to look less than brilliant. If you think I'm hard on GV, then go and look back at some of the races he was in contention and then threw it away (Dutch 1979 is a case in point where Alan Jones worried GV into the most amateur of mistakes) and say to me he could have been WDC
Being a Ferrari fan and Italian I was too young to remember the struggles of the 90s and the political mess Ferrari were going through. A lot of people don't seem to understand that not long ago Enzo Farrari had passed and before the great man left us it was his way of running things or nothing mentality and I think Luca Di Montezomolo wanted to replicate the great man philosophy but with the Agnelli family (FIAT) becoming more involved it always difficult recreate what Enzo had done for decades before his passing. I became a fan from 95 onwards what Jean Todt and Luca did was very risky and expensive because getting a driver like Michael Schumacher from Benetton when he was winning titles against a very good Williams team you must back it up with a car that can win titles. I think Michael knew it was going to be a challenge and that's why he went but I don't think he understood the history and traditions behind it in his early start at Ferrari it took him a few years maybe the first title at Ferrari in 2000 when he finally understood the meaning of being a Ferrari driver. That being said I think Prost wanted that at Ferrari after his departure in a bitter way at Mclaren with Ron and Senna and wanted to prove them what he is capable of without Mclaren. If Prost had Todt and Brawn in the team I think the Schumacher era would have happened much earlier than 96-2006.
I know many don't like Prost but you can't deny he was a hell of a driver. I miss the Senna, Mansel, Prost days. Real characters driving and both cars and drivers had personality. Also. That 7up liveried Jordan 191...isnt that just the best looking F1 car ever!
A lot of what he tried to do was put in place later on. how do you say that and then say maybe he was right it's not maybe it's he was right A lot of what he tried to do was use later on, on a extremely dominant team
That ferrari looked and sounded beautiful.
Ferrari f640-f643
Don't forget the F639 which it all began from!
I have to say it - the 641/2, in my opinion, was the most beautiful F1 car every designed by mankind.
I liked all the 640's 1989-1991, mostly 640 & 643.
Saw it at Enzo Ferrari Museum in Modena...I kept staring at it like it was a Van Gogh painting
Prost was a good organiser. He wasn't as focused on just driving as Senna was. He was very influencial in the technical and administrative functions. Maybe too loyal. Probably his biggest mistake was buying Ligier when it was already on the way down and depending on promises of politicians to ensure financial backing. Still one of the best drivers ever
When Ross Brawn took over the team he made it mandatory that the language among the team be ENGLISH. The Italians are very emotional by nature and sometimes that’s an issue. Now that McLaren is finding its feet Sainz may join the list of “ used to drive for Ferrari” drivers which would be a shame. How many chiefs have this team had in the last 5 years. No stability. This is a terrible shame because they are legends. Only time will tell.
The car handled like a truck- that’s ballsy
Not ballsy if it's the truth
Niki Lauda did one better. He said it was a shitbox, then still won 2 championships with them
Ferrari with a great team manager like Jean Todt won everything. Prost was right and if they would have listened him he would won the 1990 world championship for sure.
Most of the stuff mentioned hasn't changed.
My heart sank when he said "nearly 30 years ago"
I always grew up a blind senna fan, only now do I see how Prost was also one of the top 5 drivers of all time.
Ps: 10 minutes of looking at photos of the 643 has been a pleasure hahahah
The more you understand their story, you'll see Senna was Prost's #1 fan and once Prost retired, Senna's motivation wasn't there anymore.
Remember Prost was great at setting up the cars. He also had a great mentor Lauda who taught him even more about setup. It was Lauda that turned Ferrari around in the 70's. I remember watching F1 during those times and Ferrari had issues and was never consistent. We can all play "What if" with this scenario. In all sports it takes great people to accomplish great results. All sports teams go in cycles of winning their respective championships.
Yesss more like this plz!! Love history
Still hating Mansell for screwing up the Portuguese GP in 1990...
Impulsiveness has no place in a technical sport/work place. This is why Mercedes is such a powerhouse. They don't relax when things are good, they don't let tension build, they are very transparent.
"This is why things are the way they are and we all need to get on top of it. Your personal dramas are not for the work place. We need everyone to work together to maximize productivity." That's their attitude in a nutshell.
Ferrari lost Marchionne.
It always makes me a strange effect to me seeing n.27 both on Prost's and Gilles' Ferraris, two such different drivers having the same number...
History is anyway repeating, it's absurd to see how we haven't learnt from the errors of the past... Why we always have to have these long droughts? We should have learnt from the previous two...
Gilles and Prost were good, ckose friends.
@@longde Yes, but still a bit strange seeing the 27 on Ferraris driven by both.
Seeing today how talented Prost is to lead a team (Prost ACer already could have been really successful if many things didnt go wrong) Ferrari definatley should have listened more to him but then maybe they wouldnt have brought in di Montezemolo
The race is a world apart and in a different class than what autosport is putting out recently... autosport is terrible with who they have on their team right now and long may it last... keep it up the race.
Would have been great for prost to be wdc but the Italians don't like criticism as I've found out working with them and it's a shame that Ferrari have a revolving management style and a dirty habit of chucking out drivers that alleged to be past their best and I can't them getting things sorted out and the driver to be champion was raikkonen so it says a lot.
Can you do one about Hill being fired by Williams?
Well he wasn't "fired". Prost was "fired" by Ferrari. Frentzen was "fired" by Jordan. Hill just did not have his contract renewed as it expired at the end of 1996.
Not retaining a driver and firing them are two different things.
CapHowdy They made the decision not to renew Hill’s contract during 1995... while Hill wasn’t performing well and made a few mistakes. Williams were then shocked as Hill dominated in 1996. Frank Williams later admitted that he had underestimated Hill and his speed, and had always regretted the decision.
@@CapHowdy Yes indeed they are different but for the intents and purposes of my request, it'll do. Just as this video focuses on what led up to Prost being fired, I was more interested in seeing a video about what led up to Hill's departure, rather than the specifics of whether he was fired or the team had his contract lapse.
@@mrorangepeel659 dominated is a strong word for a driver who had by far best car and a rookie team mate and schumacher switched teams
@@gigsawsoljier1408 dominated is dominated... I don't think what else it can mean no matter how ass he was at a competitive level
I am not a Prost fan at all, but he did know how F1 worked almost better than anyone at the time.
This appeared in my recommended and it’s only been 22 minutes
Me too...
I was gutted when Mansell left Ferrari at the end of 1990.Wheras it was the smartest move he made.
Only 2 drivers have won the WDC in the past 40 years for Ferrari, says a lot about their management. If Prost had the team/framework The Michael had he could've been 6x or 7x WDC no doubt.
And you could argue Kimi won because of the McLaren self-destruct meltdown!
@@gorkab8461Kimi had a lot of reliability issues resulting in DNFs in 2007 while Lewis just had a gearbox issue in Brazil and Alonso had none. so he should’ve won the title regardless and was not lucky because of Mclaren.
Ferrari always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
i think half of Ferraris problem is everyone in management thinks the teams the best and will never hear any negative comments
Good content 😎
PC language affects on describing a Ferrari F1 car.
Lauda - 1973 - “Sh-.”
Prost - 1991 - “truck”.
Vettel - 2020 - too muzzled by PR handlers to say anything not run thru a legal team first.
so when's season 2 of the bring back v10s podcast?
Ferrari are their own worst enemy. It sucks for Vettel because his nostalgia blinded him to the fact that it was Schumacher and his entourage who made Ferrari the beastly contender that it was back in the day, not the actual Italians in the team. I don't see things going any better for Leclerc in the future.
The problem with Ferrari and Vettel ( in the first years ) is called Mercedes.
After 2014, Vettel had no choice but to leave Red Bull, and Alonso gave him the golden opportunity to join Ferrari
He was blind and now that reality settle in he is likely feeling like shit now
Prost was right about his Ferrai experience. It was a very sad one in his carreer !
If Alain Prost was driving for you and you weren't winning, the problem was NOT the driver!
The only reason Ferrari won with Schumi was that he brought half of Benetton along for the ride. They managed to change the culture...for a while.
Can we get a video about Jean Todt and those masterclass years please?
I've never understood the love for Ferrari. They are such a bunch of hypocrites.
They got the best marketing department in the biz
Bunch of wankers not hypocrites. Literally I don't know any Ferrari's fan outside Italy that would think that bringing another Italian to govern F1 team is a good idea, everyone thinks that they need foreigners to put it again on winning track. All those years with Vettel were lost as clearly they never give him power and authority like they earlier gave to Michael.
90% of their fans don't even know where the emblem of the brand originally comes from so they're not fit to assess or judge anything. I always say that Ferrari is the motor sport equivalent of Elvis Presley. Those who know music know that he never wrote a single song on his own, didn't pioneer rock'n roll and certainly didn't develop it further and yet he somehow became "the world's greatest artist". A legend due to accessibility to the public. Ferrari is the same way. Legends only to those who don't understand engineering and the history of innovation in motor sport.
The great driver Fangio was clear in his opinion as was the legendary racer/constructor Carroll Shelby. That's naming but a few.
Because fanboys have their noses so far up Ferrari’s ass that they are completely blind to any wrongdoing by the Scuderia, even though history shows it’s plain to see.
The vast majority of F1 fans are Tifosi.
Prost more importantly would have won the 1990 title for Ferrari if Senna hadn't rammed him off the road at Suzuka. That was the watershed moment for mine. He would have had enormous clout if he pulled that off, just like Schumacher did once he broke through in 2000. The Scuderia would have done well to listen to Prost. But as always with Ferrari, their own politics and ego often trip them up. Lucky escape for Prost. Opportunity missed for Ferrari.
It was just payback to Prost for Suzuka in 1989. Prost deserved what he got in 1990!
@@larrylevious8205 I’m very aware it what it was. Saw and lived through that period. Doesn’t excuse Senna’s actions that day.
If they had listened to him, Prost could have built a powerhouse there.
Sure, just like he did at Prost F1
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Micheal Scumacher NEVER said a bad word of his team, he was greatful reguardless. Look where that put him.
An element to add in the problem is that Ferrari had lost Enzo just two years before, then there is no wonder why the team was so bad structured.
And recently they lost Marchionne! Yet this is conveniently forgotten for some reason.....
Prost was obviously right. Ferrari only managed one title since 1979 that was not won by Schumacher and Schumacher did exactly what Prost wanted but failed. Now to be fair Schumacher was probably a better driver than Prost and so was Senna but Alain was one of the best and honestly more than Ferrari deserved in 1990. The last time they were competitive was in 1982 and somewhat in 1985, then they kind of struggled until Michael came and literally remade the whole team. Schumacher was the only driver that had enough political skills and carisma to get the job done and that's why he deserves additional respect. I'm not a huge fan of Michael because of things he did to Damon Hill in 1996 and attempted to do to Jacques Villeneuve in 1997, but still. He's probably the best driver of all time and if not then he's certainly the second best right behind Hamilton.
Prost goat
I think you give a bit too much credit for Schumi turning Ferrari around, he didn't do it on his own. I reckon if Prost has had Todt and Brawn backing him, he might have returned Ferrari to WC-winning ways as well. As for who is the better driver, I always think that Prost is underrated due to the more conservative style he adopted after Pironi's crash. I think a comparison that involves the younger, more aggressive version of Prost, who was significantly faster than all his teammates, would show that the gap between him and prime Senna and Schumi isn't as big as people think.
@@cchuvan I think Prost is one of the best F1 drivers in F1 history. I was a huge fan and since his retirement in 1993 I haven't really cheered for anyone the way I cheered for Prost. I loved Prost.
I liked Jacques Villeneuve, I cheered for Kimi and I also liked Vettel.
In any case I did notice that young Prost was possibly the best F1 driver of his time in 1980 - 1984 period. Senna was the only driver that was better than him and then Schumacher. I don't think Piquet or Mansell were better than Prost :)
Well, the Schumacher era success was built under the leadership of Ross Brawn and the Benneton staff that followed him. It was that 'british' approach that Prost longed for in his Ferrari days.
all said and done that 1990 car is so god damm beautiful
Prost is correct and Ferrari are still sub par today because of this ideology. If Alonso and Vettel can’t win with this team, something is wrong.
Alain Prost is just awesome!
Especially on the parade lap at San Marino in 1991.
Ferrari is Fucked up internally .
Prost was vilified back then for basically seeing through - and not putting up with - the bullshit. He was mostly interested in being the best, and doing it for the love of driving racecars. I don't think he was big on the teammates thing, and he certainly wasn't going to be a sycophant for anybody but himself. A complicated figure, but he knew what he was talking about.
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