@Tommy Callaway what light kit would you say you would recommend for a large wedding venue of about 400ppl but with out out ruining the ambient and distrubing the guest, but wish to get a nice clean and soft lighting for speeches, first dance butting of caking e.t.c have been subscribed and watching alot of you lighting video and more great job
Another great video, Tommy. While this light looks incredible I do wish they could have gotten the price point down a little cheaper. At $199 I could see this thing selling like crazy. And if anyone else reads the comment, 2 thumbs up for Tommy's audio preset he mentioned. A literal 4-5 mouse clicks process and my audio has vastly improved on all of my client work.
Tommy! This is utter video excellence! Artful, clever, creative, informative, coolness! The ML60 is a super discovery: thanks so much for bringing it to me. Cheers and God bless! 💛🙏🏼
Incredible light to keep in your kit bag at all times, and can even be used as a key light (with modifier) at a pinch! Really clear, well-informed review with good pacing as always Tommy.
Bought one of these because of this video. Got it in yesterday and it's incredible. I'm utterly shocked at the output of this light. Can definitely be used as a key light in a pinch for basic 3-point lighting setups if needed. Thanks for covering this, might not have found out about it otherwise.
@@TommyCallaway Absolutely. Feels like Godox is approaching that turning point Aputure approached a few years back when they launched their Lightstorm line, going from making generic products to distinct, higher quality products.
The reason your color temp readings are off by a couple hundred is because you're testing right next to a blue backdrop, which is bouncing and cooling the light more than it would without any reflective surface nearby. That's why for the more powerful VL300, the reading is even cooler than the ML60. If you do a color quality test, i'd recommend doing it in a dark room with no colored or reflective surfaces to contaminate the light.
I applaud your observance! I tested the color pointed away from the blue backdrop instead of next to it, and got readings within 30 kelvin on both lights. Thank you.
9:11 they will be using using the two charged NPF batteries in series to reach the typical V-mount battery voltage. That is why two NPF batteries are required. This is also typical of any NPF to V-Mount converter plates from other brands.
It's more than that. There's a bunch of electronics in there, enough room to fit a sensor and step up transformer at the very least.. When using a non-regulated NPF FXLion adapter from a V-mount, it doesn't turn the light on (which delivers the same voltage as the two npf's in series). If you put it in the left slot it will turn the display on but not the light, and if you put it in the right slot, nothing happens. really strange.
Great review. Would be even more valuable to see your camera settings when talking about what percentage the power of the light is. Camera, Lens, aperture, ISO, etc.
Great review Tommy, can you please tell me the aperture and Iso values for this unit. Bare bulb, reflector, soft box with and without grid would be greatly appreciated
@@TommyCallaway no problem! It is worth noting that with the adapter, you can position where the COB led will be so it can most likely be used with the aputure spotlight mount!
Thanks for the video, how would you go about changing the color temperature for these lights? Is Godox selling filters for them? Especially tungsten. Cheers.
Such a great review - thank you! I will get on e of these for food/product and a bit of video work. How big will the difference be with this ML60 to the Godox150? Will you recommend the softbox that is made for this light or can I just use the 95 cm softbox (with a S2 bracket) - or maybe a simple white shoot through umbrella? Thanks a lot in advance 🙏🏻
Hi Tommy! There is a light that is very similar to this one, it can work on the same batteries, it's very color accurate, cheaper, but it's made of cheap plastic... it's about the Jimbei EF II 60. I would like to see a comparison of these two lights.
Onnnnnnnnnne more question for you. Most V-Mount batteries are 14V. Looking around for D-Tap to DC power cables, I see most of them listed are 12V. Would these not work with the ML60? I don't seem to find any 14V D-Tap to DC cables around.
very nice! I have a question bit off track. Which kind of stand do you use for the lights? They seem sturdy and good. It's just that the ones I used bend and fall because of the weight of the light + softbox
I usually use impact rolling stands / impact C stands (from B&H) - super heavy duty, high quality stands. they also sell pre-filled sandbags fairly cheap, and you should always have one on the base of any stand that has a light with a modifier on it. Keeps things nice and safe, won’t tip over.
@Tommy Callaway what light kit would you say you would recommend for a large wedding venue of about 400ppl but with out out ruining the ambient and distrubing the guest, but wish to get a nice clean and soft lighting for speeches, first dance butting of caking e.t.c
I hope that some manufacturer makes a light with usb-c soon. Nowadays usb-c can provide 100w output, and we all have usb-c power banks. Why they keep making lights that use the super bulky V-mount battery?
Hi Tommy, it would be great if you could compare the performance of the ML60 vs the Sokani X60, this last gives you same portability and a bit of more flexibility I think, since it has a bowens mount and a useful bag, for just US$ 169.00
I got really excited for the next generation SL-60W, but at that price point I feel like they are missing the point for a cheap entry level led, since i can actually buy 3! SL-60W's(a set of 2 is 176euro) for the price of 1 ML60 and still have money left. But i have to admit is an interesting light!
please don't ban Will and Jada, this was the best prestigious Oscar ever 2022. Chris Rock flirted with Jada and Will got jealous. it was a little slap in the face and Chris was laughing. Mega star fights are simply the best! All of you act as though you never seen a basketball player foul, football hit, MMA, boxing ring fight!
I know the aperture, of the lens, power output of the ML60 and the temps were all mentioned, but did i miss the part wher he mentioned the iso of the camera?
On a 45wh battery, you could get 45 minutes at 100% because it is a 60w light... theoretically. So at 50%, 1.5 hours? Personally, I have not tested battery consumption at length though.
@@TommyCallaway thank you! My ML60 arrives tomorrow and I don’t like that 2 battery setup in front. Gonna pick up the dtap to dc cable and get one of the Bebobs. They’re so small! This is my first LED light (I’m a photographer) so I don’t know much about battery wh. I appreciate the response.
Can I ask you ONE more question please? I'm trying to figure out what battery system to use with my ML60. I don't have any other LED lights, and don't really plan on getting more (I'm a photographer, but feel I need one solid LED light in my kit- if I got another it would be the same ML60). Is there a benefit for me to go with a V Mount battery over the NP-F970 batteries that the ML60 battery clip is designed for? If I'm not using the batteries for anything else, is it worth the extra cost? It's over twice the price for comparable V Mount battery compared fo the NP-F970s..
@@TommyCallaway Thanks. I'm still not sure if it's worth $400 for the Bebob compared to $140 for the NPs.. I appreciate your help! 2 Watson NP-f970 High capacity batteries: $140 / 148.74Wh / 20.1Ah / 22.4oz Bebob V150 Micro battery: $395 / 150Wh / 6.8Ah / 28oz (I'm new to video lighting, please pardon the newbie questions. I've worked in photography since 1999 but haven't gotten into video yet)
Having more lights doesn’t make your understanding of light better, buy one light (you can do a lot with one light and a reflector) and understand light, then complicate things, but start with the the sun when it’s there, an off camera light when it’s not there and add on as you develop your style.
Sure - but I film at night. The sun is not an option for me. :) Everyone's path is different, as long as you understand that lighting is the key, then you're moving in the right direction.
I think Godox botched it if their goal for this was as the next generation/upgrade to the SL60W for two main reasons (currently). First they priced it out of the price category at over twice the price of the SL60W, and there are a plethora of great budget Bowens mount lights in that price category now, and most importantly they aren't using a standard Bowens mount limiting the quantity and upping the price of all accessories. Now if they do come out with a Bowens mount adapter as suggested, then that would change things a little. With that said I think this is a decent and tiny kit for the price, making it a good option for a very small portable kit, but I think the current lack of a Bowens mount kills it for any of us who have a slew of Bowens modifiers and limited storage space for extra modifiers. Personally, until a Bowens mount adapter comes out for this, I would rather go with many of Godox other, bigger Bowens mount lights at this price point, unless I had a job that absolutely required something this small.
HELLLLPPP !!!! could you translate what LUX means in terms of exposure. For Example: - according to the video at 5min and 03sec: ML-60 with reflector at 1 meter away at full power = 15,500Lux. what does that equates to an exposure? Like, is it 1/60sec at f2.8 ISO 100? - according to the video at 5min and 17sec: ML-60 with softbox at 1 meter away at full power = 1500Lux. what does that equates to an exposure? - according to the video at 5min and 31sec: ML-60 with softbox and grid at 1 meter away at full power = 939 Lux. what does that equates to an exposure? Im a photographer, so these values are not familiar to me. Is there like an exposure conversion chart, or formula, that would just translate these LUX and Watts to exposure values?
Btw there is a battery pwoer version of the SL60 it just a different model name I currently have that with main power adapter / battery power. it the SLB60 currently have 2 of them, but am am looking for a very powerful but very soft fill light for wedding reception.
yoooo.. hit the SUBSCRIBE button. got some sweet videos coming your way.
@Tommy Callaway what light kit would you say you would recommend for a large wedding venue of about 400ppl but with out out ruining the ambient and distrubing the guest, but wish to get a nice clean and soft lighting for speeches, first dance butting of caking e.t.c
have been subscribed and watching alot of you lighting video and more great job
Thanks for the shoutout Tommy! I like you noting the power option needs that Godox could definitely add to the package. Nice job
Thank you :) your videos are dope. Anyone that reads this, go subscribe to her!
Woohoo! I've been researching lights before I buy. Thanks for the great content. Looking forward to this review.
Another great video, Tommy. While this light looks incredible I do wish they could have gotten the price point down a little cheaper. At $199 I could see this thing selling like crazy. And if anyone else reads the comment, 2 thumbs up for Tommy's audio preset he mentioned. A literal 4-5 mouse clicks process and my audio has vastly improved on all of my client work.
Tommy! This is utter video excellence! Artful, clever, creative, informative, coolness! The ML60 is a super discovery: thanks so much for bringing it to me. Cheers and God bless! 💛🙏🏼
Just got mine, and can't wait to use it, thanks for the review
Congrats!! It’s a fantastic little tool!
Looks like they’ve really upped their game. I’m really impressed with the brightness of this thing.
Incredible light to keep in your kit bag at all times, and can even be used as a key light (with modifier) at a pinch! Really clear, well-informed review with good pacing as always Tommy.
These are going to make incredible wedding lights 🙌🏻
Glad you did this review. That’s the light I’m adding to my list 👍
Bought one of these because of this video. Got it in yesterday and it's incredible. I'm utterly shocked at the output of this light. Can definitely be used as a key light in a pinch for basic 3-point lighting setups if needed. Thanks for covering this, might not have found out about it otherwise.
Glad it worked out! It’s great these things are getting to the “smaller, cheaper, better” phase of the tech lifecycle.
@@TommyCallaway Absolutely. Feels like Godox is approaching that turning point Aputure approached a few years back when they launched their Lightstorm line, going from making generic products to distinct, higher quality products.
The size does look super appealing. Nice video as usual!
The reason your color temp readings are off by a couple hundred is because you're testing right next to a blue backdrop, which is bouncing and cooling the light more than it would without any reflective surface nearby. That's why for the more powerful VL300, the reading is even cooler than the ML60. If you do a color quality test, i'd recommend doing it in a dark room with no colored or reflective surfaces to contaminate the light.
Interesting presumption. Will test this weekend!
I applaud your observance! I tested the color pointed away from the blue backdrop instead of next to it, and got readings within 30 kelvin on both lights. Thank you.
@@TommyCallaway No problem man! Love your videos, keep it up! 👍
Great Review Tommy!
Subscribed! Also good to see you pop in on Camera and Flask on Wednesdays!
9:11 they will be using using the two charged NPF batteries in series to reach the typical V-mount battery voltage. That is why two NPF batteries are required. This is also typical of any NPF to V-Mount converter plates from other brands.
It's more than that. There's a bunch of electronics in there, enough room to fit a sensor and step up transformer at the very least.. When using a non-regulated NPF FXLion adapter from a V-mount, it doesn't turn the light on (which delivers the same voltage as the two npf's in series). If you put it in the left slot it will turn the display on but not the light, and if you put it in the right slot, nothing happens. really strange.
Loving your perspective
But it has a different Mount? Ouch! I think I will wait for the adapter. Thanks for sharing video. 👍
your audio is always so dadgum good
Thanks man, I really appreciate that!
Tommy
Great review of the ML60
Can you include a link of the adapter cable with d-tap to DC cable
Thanks again
Jay
HELLO, WAITING FOR IR TOO !!!
Very good video. It was informative.
ML60's look really cool. So tiny. Great overview as always.
Great review. Would be even more valuable to see your camera settings when talking about what percentage the power of the light is. Camera, Lens, aperture, ISO, etc.
I'll probably get these thanks to this video! BUT.. I may wait a tiny bit to see if the bowens adapter comes along soon
Great review Tommy, can you please tell me the aperture and Iso values for this unit.
Bare bulb, reflector, soft box with and without grid would be greatly appreciated
They already make a bowens mount accessory for this! It was apparently designed to fit inside Godox S2 speedlight mount!
Thank you. Lots of people are asking about that!
@@TommyCallaway no problem! It is worth noting that with the adapter, you can position where the COB led will be so it can most likely be used with the aputure spotlight mount!
Thanks for the video, how would you go about changing the color temperature for these lights? Is Godox selling filters for them? Especially tungsten. Cheers.
Such a great review - thank you! I will get on e of these for food/product and a bit of video work. How big will the difference be with this ML60 to the Godox150? Will you recommend the softbox that is made for this light or can I just use the 95 cm softbox (with a S2 bracket) - or maybe a simple white shoot through umbrella? Thanks a lot in advance 🙏🏻
Super cool man. What about the SL 60? Would you recommend it? Thanks brother. Stay safe and keep rocking 👊
Hi Tommy! There is a light that is very similar to this one, it can work on the same batteries, it's very color accurate, cheaper, but it's made of cheap plastic... it's about the Jimbei EF II 60. I would like to see a comparison of these two lights.
Onnnnnnnnnne more question for you. Most V-Mount batteries are 14V. Looking around for D-Tap to DC power cables, I see most of them listed are 12V. Would these not work with the ML60? I don't seem to find any 14V D-Tap to DC cables around.
I think this one was design to fit the Godox S2 bracket like the AD300 and V1
Can you use umbrella while the reflector attached?
Which fresnel lens adapter would you recommend for this light ?
Can you control ML60 with the SL60 controller? Can you control both lights with 1 control?
very nice! I have a question bit off track. Which kind of stand do you use for the lights? They seem sturdy and good. It's just that the ones I used bend and fall because of the weight of the light + softbox
I usually use impact rolling stands / impact C stands (from B&H) - super heavy duty, high quality stands. they also sell pre-filled sandbags fairly cheap, and you should always have one on the base of any stand that has a light with a modifier on it. Keeps things nice and safe, won’t tip over.
I’m glad I waited
@Tommy Callaway what light kit would you say you would recommend for a large wedding venue of about 400ppl but with out out ruining the ambient and distrubing the guest, but wish to get a nice clean and soft lighting for speeches, first dance butting of caking e.t.c
any other accessories ??? barn door, fresnel, etc... you mentioned there is a new "mount" thanks love the vid by the way
I hope that some manufacturer makes a light with usb-c soon. Nowadays usb-c can provide 100w output, and we all have usb-c power banks. Why they keep making lights that use the super bulky V-mount battery?
I have the remote a6 and the ml 60 but i cannot use the remote whoever i set both of them same channel and same category , please help my
Hi Tommy, it would be great if you could compare the performance of the ML60 vs the Sokani X60, this last gives you same portability and a bit of more flexibility I think, since it has a bowens mount and a useful bag, for just US$ 169.00
Does it come with the batteries?
I got really excited for the next generation SL-60W, but at that price point I feel like they are missing the point for a cheap entry level led, since i can actually buy 3! SL-60W's(a set of 2 is 176euro) for the price of 1 ML60 and still have money left. But i have to admit is an interesting light!
please don't ban Will and Jada, this was the best prestigious Oscar ever 2022. Chris Rock flirted with Jada and Will got jealous. it was a little slap in the face and Chris was laughing. Mega star fights are simply the best! All of you act as though you never seen a basketball player foul, football hit, MMA, boxing ring fight!
Can you power this with V mount batteries?
Can i use the ad s85s with this light or is too big?
Just wanted to ask what’s the max battery life
How much for the light?
I know the aperture, of the lens, power output of the ML60 and the temps were all mentioned, but did i miss the part wher he mentioned the iso of the camera?
Iso was at 200. I filmed on the GH5, so anything above that starts introducing a lot of noise. lol
How long can you run the ML60 on that Bebob 45 battery? Could you get a couple of hours at 50% brightness?
On a 45wh battery, you could get 45 minutes at 100% because it is a 60w light... theoretically. So at 50%, 1.5 hours? Personally, I have not tested battery consumption at length though.
@@TommyCallaway thank you! My ML60 arrives tomorrow and I don’t like that 2 battery setup in front. Gonna pick up the dtap to dc cable and get one of the Bebobs. They’re so small! This is my first LED light (I’m a photographer) so I don’t know much about battery wh. I appreciate the response.
Can I ask you ONE more question please? I'm trying to figure out what battery system to use with my ML60.
I don't have any other LED lights, and don't really plan on getting more (I'm a photographer, but feel I need one solid LED light in my kit- if I got another it would be the same ML60).
Is there a benefit for me to go with a V Mount battery over the NP-F970 batteries that the ML60 battery clip is designed for? If I'm not using the batteries for anything else, is it worth the extra cost? It's over twice the price for comparable V Mount battery compared fo the NP-F970s..
For me, it's a personal preference - I own several V-mounts, and only a few NP - I've had several NP fail but never had a V-mount fail.
@@TommyCallaway Thanks. I'm still not sure if it's worth $400 for the Bebob compared to $140 for the NPs.. I appreciate your help!
2 Watson NP-f970 High capacity batteries:
$140 / 148.74Wh / 20.1Ah / 22.4oz
Bebob V150 Micro battery:
$395 / 150Wh / 6.8Ah / 28oz
(I'm new to video lighting, please pardon the newbie questions. I've worked in photography since 1999 but haven't gotten into video yet)
Do they have an adapter that would make it work with regular bowens accessories?
Yes, it's the Bowens mount bracket adapter: amzn.to/38BjQMR
Having more lights doesn’t make your understanding of light better, buy one light (you can do a lot with one light and a reflector) and understand light, then complicate things, but start with the the sun when it’s there, an off camera light when it’s not there and add on as you develop your style.
Sure - but I film at night. The sun is not an option for me. :) Everyone's path is different, as long as you understand that lighting is the key, then you're moving in the right direction.
I think Godox botched it if their goal for this was as the next generation/upgrade to the SL60W for two main reasons (currently). First they priced it out of the price category at over twice the price of the SL60W, and there are a plethora of great budget Bowens mount lights in that price category now, and most importantly they aren't using a standard Bowens mount limiting the quantity and upping the price of all accessories. Now if they do come out with a Bowens mount adapter as suggested, then that would change things a little. With that said I think this is a decent and tiny kit for the price, making it a good option for a very small portable kit, but I think the current lack of a Bowens mount kills it for any of us who have a slew of Bowens modifiers and limited storage space for extra modifiers. Personally, until a Bowens mount adapter comes out for this, I would rather go with many of Godox other, bigger Bowens mount lights at this price point, unless I had a job that absolutely required something this small.
What brand is the small bag on your left? thanks :)
Both of the cases on my table are Godox cases. the little case on my left comes with the ML60
HELLLLPPP !!!! could you translate what LUX means in terms of exposure. For Example:
- according to the video at 5min and 03sec: ML-60 with reflector at 1 meter away at full power = 15,500Lux. what does that equates to an exposure? Like, is it 1/60sec at f2.8 ISO 100?
- according to the video at 5min and 17sec: ML-60 with softbox at 1 meter away at full power = 1500Lux. what does that equates to an exposure?
- according to the video at 5min and 31sec: ML-60 with softbox and grid at 1 meter away at full power = 939 Lux. what does that equates to an exposure?
Im a photographer, so these values are not familiar to me. Is there like an exposure conversion chart, or formula, that would just translate these LUX and Watts to exposure values?
Let's get undone, da da... Tommy undone :)
Btw there is a battery pwoer version of the SL60 it just a different model name I currently have that with main power adapter / battery power. it the SLB60 currently have 2 of them, but am am looking for a very powerful but very soft fill light for wedding reception.
Leave my wallet alone!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Meh, I’m happy with my Nanlite Forza 60b.
All I see is an expensive torch