"Make-product-look-good-so-konami-gives-revs-more-free cards" ahh reaction💀 Btw this isn't hate towards revs at all, he's working with what he's got lol
Yeah, this set costs only slightly more than what I paid for my 2nd Zeus and that was without needing postage - if I needed to pay that this box would be cheaper.
@@aasgier9091 The zeus in this set would be way cheaper than the one you bought. You could easily just buy the single off somebody for even less than the set.
@@SkeetVossi It's not a bad foundation for restarting one's collection. I lost all my cards circa 2010 and this contains quite a few of what I used to have. I don't really give a fuck if it's viable gameplay-wise. Also, Zeus.
nice extra deck reprints, would be nice if they had like power-up packs included edit: wish the decks weren't random pile and at least have some archetypal strategy like the OCG Structure Manga
2 Player Starter Set; Set 1) Kashtira VS Mannadium (XYZ x Synchro) Set 2) Scareclaw VS Tearlaments (Link x Fusion) - Meta Relevant. - Cheap Reprints. - Within Lore. Chuck in some actual staples and boom, sells like hot cakes and new players aren't going to walk into Locals, get instarekt and leave - never to return again.
@@paleasaghost-5799 Because that would be like teaching your grandfather how to speed run Mario 64 when he hasn't ever played a video game let alone used a controller
Nah, this will sell, but it will be a salamangreat structure deck situation where people buy it, take out the Zeus, maybe the dd crow, the visas and the prime heart, and bin the rest
@@endeav0r_49 Wasn't the salad structure a pretty good starting point for building salad though which I believe was a metaish deck at the time of release?
This is actually the second scripted duel in recent years the 2015 starter deck was able to be split into 2 20 card decks and gave players a script to follow for the first few turns
The Portal expansion in Magic The Gathering had a scripted duel, and their cards also had a few extra icons to help players better understand the cards.
People are massively misunderstanding what this product is supposed to be. It's a scripted beginner tutorial for people who don't know anything about the game, not properly constructed decks for standard play. I've attempted to teach Yugioh to my family members via very basic Speed Duel decks, and even that proved too much of a struggle, so I understand why they made it. This seems like it's going to be pretty good at what it's supposed to do.
And you're massively misunderstanding the actual issue. This doesn't teach anyone how to play yugioh, it teaches someone how to play random yugioh cards. People might pick this up, play the decks, then expect a similar experience in actual modern yugioh, get stomped and subsequently stop playing the game forever. This doesn't help anyone. Master duel has the same problem. Konami never learns.
The easiest way to teach people is literally to duel them with a deck from each era. Starting with each special summon. Normal sums only, special sum( Pre fusion), fusion, synchro, xyz, pendulum, link. In that order. Going slow, enjoying the game, that's the best way to get there. It's much easier to take someone through the progression, then start going through combos and hand traps.
Amongst the hundred of negative comments, I'll say that I think it's a cool product. Idk why people expected it to be a reprint gold mine for already active players. Kinda missing the point. This is much, much better than any STARTER deck printed before.
No its not, its like 10% better than previous starters since they wrote the unwieldy rulebook into a zoomer friendly comic, it doesnt fix the issue that the rulebook is horribly incomplete and doesn't prepare the new player at all for the modern game. There are so many crucial interactions in yugioh that are very unintuitive and you just gotta know about them. If konami actually wanted to help new players then they would make a structure deck reprint of an old meta deck that is still tier 2-3 and get pro players to write a guide that they can put in the box. Instead konami pretends like its still 2002 and normal monsters, tribute summoning, defense position or the battle phase hold a lot of relevance.
I think a lot of the current playerbase is forgetting something key, the whole point of this set is to ease new players into the game and give them some cards that can be helpful long term, case in point Daigusto, Castel, and Zeus. Two generic rank 4's and an easy rank 12 quick effect board nuke. This is good for those younger audience members that didn't grow up watching the series. And lets be honest here, the metagame today is so hyperoptimized it makes it impossible for casuals and newbies to play at all. People like that and existing "pro" playerbase want two entirely different things with the game. The current playerbase wants reprints of high tier deck essentials, meanwhile casuals just want something they can mess around with their friends with. I've seen both, and the latter seem to enjoy the game a lot more than the former. I think a lot of people have forgotten stuff like this is supposed to be fun, not a contest to see who can blow more money than the other and get blessed by the gacha gods on their card pack pulls.
Honestly, from a beginner perspective, this isn't bad depending on the price. Magic the Gathering has its own starter deck sets and those sell decently, especially with the code to scan the decks into their app. It WOULD have been great if this product came with either dedicated power-up packs or a mega pack from last year. I can't wait to see how this improves over the years!
@@darkwyngraym Yu-Gi-Oh will always be my first tcg love, but Magic and its easy customization for deck building (especially for EDH/Commander) is what truly got me into deck building.
I kinda wouldn’t mind picking up one of these just to have decks for my friends that are new to dueling. The decks themselves don’t appear to be great but I guess that doesn’t matter to a new player.
I will be able to grab around 10 cards i want and like for 20 bucks instead of only Zeus with 20 bucks fine by me thanks konami keep up the great work, you just saved me around 10 euros at least!
Actually really like this product. Ive tried in the past to get some friends who have never played a tcg into yugioh and it was difficult. I made two decks which played similar to something from goat format cause i thought that it would be easier for them to learn the game except it wasnt they were still confused and overwhelmed.
Too bad you can only play these decks exclusively against each other because those main decks are so unplayable that you will curb stomp them if they want to play against any other deck than those 2 to the point they won't want to play again
@@iXSIKOBOIXi To elaborate on what he said here: The Main deck of these 2 decks would loose to common decks which were played back in 2005. These decks release 18+ years out of date ...
OK I'm definitely picking this up. So many nostalgia cards, that new art Dark Magician, it's like a love letter to Yu-Gi-Oh! throughout the ages whilst focusing on newer extra deck methods. I think a second one that focuses on Fusions and Links would be quite nice, I love fusion one of the better game mechanics. Love the scripted duel format something I've always like for beginner focused sets. Would love to unbox and even do the duel for my channel.
Everyone acting like this product was supposed to be a Structure Deck with the negativity, but this product is supposed to be literally a TUTORIAL for the game. Not even starter deck level, but TUTORIAL level. If someone told me I can learn a whole new TCG from scratch, have some decent staples, reprints that people want (zeus, coral dragon, daigusto emeral, visas etc. etc.), and a potentially playable deck? For only $20? Sure why not try it out
Yes its a tutorial, but its not good. It teaches you a game that doesnt exist and you will subsequently lose every game you play until you sit down, do hours of research online to actually learn the modern game at which point you couldve easily just gotten the info that these decks provide you online as well. Synchro and XYZ summoning are not the reason why yugioh is hard to get into, its the million of small rulings that arent listed anywhere but are necessary to play and play against many decks, the complexity of combos in every archetype, even simple interactions like "MST doesnt negate" are not often covered by these beginner products.
It feels very odd that they left out Link Summoning. I know both decks focus on one kind of ED Summon Mechanic, but Link Summoning feels integral to the modern game. I guess its just so common at this point Konami is constantly behind the player base in terms of keeping up on newer things to their own game, i.e. OTS Packs and Ban List changes. But they are always there to gate keep the rarities on modern cards you need for good decks!
Links had it own starter decks years ago. Then pends had its own starter deck before that and so on. Guess it is impossible to teach everything in one starter deck.
As a true beginner product with the scripted duel I think this works , BUT it’s going to be a huge miss if konami doesn’t put out some kind of intermediate/advanced skill version of this product This teaches a person how to play the game and interact with their opponent, but it doesn’t teach them how archetypes works or how to sequence their moves. You can say structure decks fill this role but I’ve seen many people struggle with piloting them “correctly”
Agreed the next product in this line needs to be fusion vs links and teach new players how archetypes work and how basic combos work. Then they need to work on making locals more new player friendly. One idea would be to do rental tournaments similar to master duel. This would allow for Konami to determine the power of each deck. They could also mark the cards as rental and not allowed in any duel outside those events to discourage stealing the cards
I imagine that the second set is something along the lines of "Fusion (Branded/Aleister/Machine stuff) vs Link (Scareclow [Basic Mini core])" to supplement these decks
as a new player, i would be more interested if it had a proper rulebook. i wanted to print something to have as a reference while playing and its insane that I had to consolidate several articles and a rulebook.
I expect not many people in the community who already play to be interested in this, unless they plan to introduce the game to acquaintances, but it’s a nice product to have for basics!
It has a couple of cards that can be used in edison, and tbh, edison is a really good and cheap format to teach someone the game. Also zeus reprint letsgo
Well, for actually teaching the absolute basics of the game, it’s ok. But it seems like it’s practically impossible for Konami to make a deck that’s playable out of the box.
@sirthorodos3012 Yes, the past few have been better, but the fact that you have to buy three is stupid in and of itself, since the structure decks for games like Pokémon and MTG are complete with only one. As I said, it’s not playable out of the box.
@@astercat49you act like the playable-out-of-the-box mtg/pokemon structures aren't $30/40 on their own. It's no different from buying 3 $10 yugioh structures.
@johnnickfanaccount3492 While it isn’t different cost-wise, it is still different. The fact that you have to buy three of a product just to be able to make something remotely playable is stupid. It would genuinely be better if the structure decks were designed as a one and done deal where you get the full deck with one purchase. That would also cut down on the garbage filler that takes up the majority of slots in structure decks.
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 The issue is that new players don't know to buy 3. They buy 1 play it and find out that its bad. Same thing with this product it teaches you a format that couldnt be further from real yugioh if it tried. All of the learning experience for yugioh is dumped onto the players and the new players ability to look up info online when every other card game has relatively good tutorials.
This realistically could definitely be better, it should have four decks as opposed to two one for each of the primary extra deck mechanics, and maybe I’ll throw a bone and say 6 so you can do Pendulum and Rituals. In the flip side, for what it is as an introductory point, it’s really not that bad.
People complain because this doesnt do that. This teaches people to play fantasy goat format in 2024. If konami wanted a simpler product to teach people the basics they couldve made this an edison product with reprints relevant to that format while also giving players a competent deck that can be played there without affecting the modern yugioh market.
imo the two things this is missing is a) another product that adds a bridge between the base game mechanics and the complexity of the modern game b) similar products for links/fusions/penulums
Not really honestly. I feel that for the purpose of teaching the game, this does a good job. It's just too dumbed down and starts from literal zero, but it's okay
I think is a regular product, I expected more handtraps mininum veiler, it would be better with more recent cards or mechanics including Link and Pendulum, the gap between a beginner to intermediate player is very big
Not sure why everyone is complaining so much. This is clearly intended for new players learning the basics, not for experienced players. TCG is getting like a dozen product releases over the next couple months. Not every single one has to be aimed at veteran players. People also complaining that there is no synergy with the cards and no single coherent archetype but forget that this is literally how yugioh was played until 07/08. The game is complicated af, no new players wants to open a traptrix structure deck, spend dozens of hours learning the complexities of the modern game, and then get rolled by mannadium at locals. This gives new players a slow, gradual way of learning the game. Starting hand being vanillas can first teach levels, normal summons/sets, atk and def stat, battling. Then later in the scripted duel they learn effect monsters, spells, traps, etc. I actually really like this idea, but might be too late unfortunately. Barrier to entry for yugioh is already absurdly high, but still a nice effort of blending new and old cards for a new player experience. I still think speed duels, rush duels, or very gradually learning/playing goat then Edison then modern method is the best
I'm only considering it just to get Zeus, Primeheart, and Emeral. There are others in there I want, but it's mainly for those 3. Personally this is okay for folks who just want to started and get a Zeus. Because as a reminder folks, Zeus is like 20 if you're buying it off direct in TCGPlayer and Emeral hasn't had a reprint in a while, so a guarantee on both is good.
Let's not act like Zeus doesn't go down to like $5 after getting a guaranteed pull reprint here and you can just buy that rather than wasting your money on this set. And primeheart and emerald are change bro
Seriously. On one hand, its a good showcase of the common mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh! for people who dont even know the basics. On the other hand, the only "plus" are the miniscule Meta reprints. Which only are worth it, if the set is dirtcheap. I think its a good start for bloody newbies, but they could have done so much better.
I see what they're doing in teaching the basics to more advance. But still a little misleading to how the game is actually played. But I do like the uniqueness of the product.
Oh nice! We've got the old staples in here ..that's always nice to see The 65th common printing of it There was minor nostalgia here ...already have an ultimate rare giga brilliant so ..might enjoy the ultra version .... Zeus is the only card here I haven't got ...just brought prime heart like a week ago 😐
These decks are legitimately unplayable outside of a scripted duel. There’s no synergy packed in here, only (at most) pairs of cards that MAY work well together, not even mentioning the fact that the majority of these cards are garbage on their own, that wouldn’t even fly in playground yugioh circa. 2007. Sad but not unexpected. Expect Zeus to be extremely pushed by vendors who bought cases of this product and can’t sell anything else from it.
People out here saying people who don't agree with this product are missing the point are the ones that are actually missing the point. It's the same Master Duel tutorial scenario where they're trying to get people into playing YGO only for them to drop the game immediately after getting handtrapped to oblivion and being like "WTF just happened???" If you want new people playing Yu-Gi-Oh, teach them MODERN yugioh. All this does it try to teach people how to play within the early 2000s timeframe while attempting to get away with it because they teach you how to Zeus your opponent. This is frigging scripted, they will be walked through the duels, it's not like they will have to come up with strategies by themselves. There's a bunch of Normal Monster crap that has been left in the dust forever now and I can't for the life of me wrap my head around the fact that you need to have something scripted in order to have poeple learn what Normal Monsters and their interactions are and what they can(not) do. They don't freaking matter!? Phew. I feel much better now. Bye
This honestly seems like a pretty good way to be introduced to the game if you don’t want to watch RUclips for hours on end and get smoked at a couple locals tourneys. Pretty good reprints, DD crow, dark hole, cosmic cyclone, book of moon, are pretty solid and zeus is huge
"DD crow" Which allready has 4 reprints in common worth 0.15-0.50€. "dark hole" Has tons of reprints and goes for as low as 2 cents. "cosmic cyclone" Another 2 cent card with tons of reprints. "book of moon" Another 2 cent card. Face it: even the "good reprints" are just outdated trash that has been reprinted ten times over. The only worthwhile card is Zeus and even that is a streach. You get one card worth 10€ and a stack of garbage that adds up to maybe 2€, for 20€. And if people buy that, then they support the scummy practice of shortprinting cards and bundling up reprints together with heaps of trash.
people are kinda missing the point here. as a starting point this is brilliant. if you wanna introduce someone to the game, you buy them this and go from there. no need to come up with nonexistent sealed formats and teach them every mechanic step by step. buy this, play a few games together. and then depending on how big the interest becomes, you move to structure decks or edopro
Hopefully are next two Starters Decks from Konami will be announced for being A Ritual Summoning Extra Deck, and also A Fusion Summoning Extra Deck for the Next Beginners Starters Two Decks Yugioh Set Please Please Konami and also Yugioh TCG Please!
There is literally nothing in here unless you play Common Charity. Eldlich and Visas Starfrost might add some neat stuff to do in that format but this is literally a $20 box containing a Zeus that was already $15 and therefore will not drop the price. 10/10 product Konami. Can't wait for the follow-up Metal Gear NFTs followed by the 276th Castlevania pachinko machine.
they couldn't have put in more than 3 playable cards in the 2 decks? I'm sure this scripted duel thing will teach the basic mechanics, but no one is learning how to play the game or how cards work together with outdated random "good" stuff
The older ones the Normals was the ones with the Highest Stats inlcuded. But they picked DM/GX ones here just to get older players back in. Why not just put those cards but make newer stronger version of them so a like 1500 def new Normal Ojama. This gets more to want the product because it includes new cards too I mean older starter deck did this.@@ClarkieReidri
Everyone hating on this because it doesnt have any good cards besides zeus kinda missed the point of it. It looks like they picked a wide variety of stuff to try and show players some of the more common interactions in the game without getting overly complicated. I think guiding new players through a scripted duel is probably a better approach than expecting them to sit down read a rule book and just play on their own. I like the idea, wether or not it truly works has yet to be seen. Because not only does the product have to teach the basics but it has to be compelling enough to hook the new player in. I guess the hope is they get sucked in at the end of the duel, realize they dont have much replayability here with the included decks and then take a step up with 3 structure decks. The bigest issue i see is this product seems to rely on 2 new players learning together. If you have a friend that has some interest, youd probably just build them a quick deck to play with and teach them yourself. I think if this product isnt too expensive it would be an ok product for a total beginner. It all comes down to the MSRP
They could've had a scripted duel using cards actually do things tho. The moment those decks are shuffled, they wont do anything. Most of the reprints would've been bad a decade ago. This doesn't get anyone into the game, this doesn't teach anyone how it's played, it just walks them through a tour of all the game's mechanics
Prayers before I watch the video: Please dont be bulk please dont be bulk please dont be bulk Edit:Its.....dogshit just awful worse than buying one structure deck and playing with just that,at this point get 3 fire king structure decks and play dont waste money on this disapointment
is it that hard for Konami to print an actual semi viable deck for a low price for new players?, I dont get it, it doesnt have to be a tier 1, or tier 2 deck but a decent deck with a solid structure that a player might even bring to a locals and perform decently or at least have a good time. Isnt that the point for this kind of products? I was actually kinda excited to tell my friends to pick this up so they can learn how to play but aint no way im recommending anyone to pick this shit up because it's completely useless in the year 2024.
Considering Konami designed this product for those who want to start playing yugioh from scratch, i think it's okay. Like sure i get why people are complaining how both decks are full of unplayable cards and how they could've done a better job (which i agree), but you have to keep in mind new players would get instantly turned off by the sheer amount of shit they would have to learn right from the get go. That being said, i'm still going to buy the product because i desperately need a copy of Zeus and Coral Dragon.
Instead new players still have to learn about all that stuff that konami hid from them and they will instead quit after their first real duel against a meta deck.
"but you have to keep in mind new players would get instantly turned off by the sheer amount of shit they would have to learn right from the get go. " Expecting new players to learn the concept of a handtrap is not that out of place. Kuriboh was released in 2002. And the concept of a synergy between types or multiple special summons is just as old. Remember flute of dragon summoning? You can EASILY teach new players these mechanics with cards that are still relavent today. I doubt new players will have a problem understanding effect veilor, Bottomless Traphole, Imperm, Evenly Matched, Solemn Judgement or Nibiru. I equally doubt that new players will have a problem with Lavagolem, Kaijus or a small Scrap engine. Those are not expensive. They are not complicated. They are still used in a variety of decks.
So lets say a kid or maybe two kids buy this together for the two player aspect, they play through the scripted duel, maybe duel against each other, but then what? neither of these starter decks offer a way to actually start playing the game against people not using this specific product. If a kid takes this and thinks it's a actual starting point for actually playing the game and not just a tutorial it's going to be disappointing for them when they realize these decks will lose to pretty much anything considered a deck by modern standards. Honestly a couple proper starter decks and a QR code linking to some virtual tutorial maybe using master duel as a jumping point for a virtual scripted duel, would of made more sense, that way the kid could actually take that starter deck and do something with it, even if it was like a full blue eyes deck and a full dark magician deck and it's a product that requires the child read the cardboard that says do not shuffle and trusting they wont fumble the deck in some way.
I real feel how hards it is to act like this is not a terrible release. the idea could have worked if it was Pokémon since it has done L2 deck sets and they know how to make good competive starter decks but konami is incapable of printing decent competive decks in an guaranteed set.
So in short: A total of 4 cards which are worth keeping, 6 cards which you may want to keep, a few situational cards and 70+ cards of absolute trash that belongs in the garbage and was not even played way back in 2002. ... Is that supposed to be a joke? A better start for new players would be just buying Structure Deck: Freezing Chains and a Structure Deck: Cyber Strike. You are cheaper off, have some staples in them, have a solid core which you can turn into an actual playable deck and wont toss away 90% of the cards upon opening the pack.
My man had to pretend to be hyped 💀
LMAO
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"Make-product-look-good-so-konami-gives-revs-more-free cards" ahh reaction💀
Btw this isn't hate towards revs at all, he's working with what he's got lol
@@GhostmareXD_I would too to get free cards haha
When this was announced back in September 2023 i knew it was too good to be real
Low key disappointing but hey there’s a Zeus
Coral dragon was kinda $ too
Same
Yeah, this set costs only slightly more than what I paid for my 2nd Zeus and that was without needing postage - if I needed to pay that this box would be cheaper.
@@aasgier9091 The zeus in this set would be way cheaper than the one you bought. You could easily just buy the single off somebody for even less than the set.
@@datguy8296 That assumes this product will sell well, which I severely doubt...
This is what i wanted for a long time as a former Yugi-oh player, and i can finally purchase this on stores! Thanks for the review man!
Why do you need it ?
@@SkeetVossi It's not a bad foundation for restarting one's collection. I lost all my cards circa 2010 and this contains quite a few of what I used to have. I don't really give a fuck if it's viable gameplay-wise. Also, Zeus.
nice extra deck reprints, would be nice if they had like power-up packs included
edit: wish the decks weren't random pile and at least have some archetypal strategy like the OCG Structure Manga
2 Player Starter Set;
Set 1) Kashtira VS Mannadium (XYZ x Synchro)
Set 2) Scareclaw VS Tearlaments (Link x Fusion)
- Meta Relevant.
- Cheap Reprints.
- Within Lore.
Chuck in some actual staples and boom, sells like hot cakes and new players aren't going to walk into Locals, get instarekt and leave - never to return again.
Yeah, that's what I was expecting honestly.
That would be to good for them to come up with
Why cant we have this
@@paleasaghost-5799 Because that would be like teaching your grandfather how to speed run Mario 64 when he hasn't ever played a video game let alone used a controller
@@mattgibson9337 youre not wrong. The modern metagame is running a marathon on steroids.
Konami is gunna be surprised at how this doesn't sell and that's wild.
It sucks ass, the only decent card here is Zeus. I really hoped it would be decent, but it's not.
Theres people who get paid 6 figures who help design and green light this shit. But hey you think you know better 👍
Nah, this will sell, but it will be a salamangreat structure deck situation where people buy it, take out the Zeus, maybe the dd crow, the visas and the prime heart, and bin the rest
@@endeav0r_49 Wasn't the salad structure a pretty good starting point for building salad though which I believe was a metaish deck at the time of release?
@@AdaptableZel Salad was one of the best performing decks of the time.
This is actually the second scripted duel in recent years the 2015 starter deck was able to be split into 2 20 card decks and gave players a script to follow for the first few turns
I bought this starter set back then, but there was not a script to follow
Oh yeah Saber Force!!!
"in recent years" that was 9 years ago m8
@@unculturedg4mer310 yes 9 years is recent
That's how time works
The Portal expansion in Magic The Gathering had a scripted duel, and their cards also had a few extra icons to help players better understand the cards.
People are massively misunderstanding what this product is supposed to be. It's a scripted beginner tutorial for people who don't know anything about the game, not properly constructed decks for standard play. I've attempted to teach Yugioh to my family members via very basic Speed Duel decks, and even that proved too much of a struggle, so I understand why they made it. This seems like it's going to be pretty good at what it's supposed to do.
And you're massively misunderstanding the actual issue. This doesn't teach anyone how to play yugioh, it teaches someone how to play random yugioh cards. People might pick this up, play the decks, then expect a similar experience in actual modern yugioh, get stomped and subsequently stop playing the game forever. This doesn't help anyone.
Master duel has the same problem. Konami never learns.
The easiest way to teach people is literally to duel them with a deck from each era. Starting with each special summon. Normal sums only, special sum( Pre fusion), fusion, synchro, xyz, pendulum, link. In that order. Going slow, enjoying the game, that's the best way to get there. It's much easier to take someone through the progression, then start going through combos and hand traps.
Amongst the hundred of negative comments, I'll say that I think it's a cool product. Idk why people expected it to be a reprint gold mine for already active players. Kinda missing the point. This is much, much better than any STARTER deck printed before.
No its not, its like 10% better than previous starters since they wrote the unwieldy rulebook into a zoomer friendly comic, it doesnt fix the issue that the rulebook is horribly incomplete and doesn't prepare the new player at all for the modern game.
There are so many crucial interactions in yugioh that are very unintuitive and you just gotta know about them.
If konami actually wanted to help new players then they would make a structure deck reprint of an old meta deck that is still tier 2-3 and get pro players to write a guide that they can put in the box.
Instead konami pretends like its still 2002 and normal monsters, tribute summoning, defense position or the battle phase hold a lot of relevance.
Honestly from what ive experienced with the yugioh community i don't blame people for not wanting to play due to the toxicity of this community
I think a lot of the current playerbase is forgetting something key, the whole point of this set is to ease new players into the game and give them some cards that can be helpful long term, case in point Daigusto, Castel, and Zeus. Two generic rank 4's and an easy rank 12 quick effect board nuke. This is good for those younger audience members that didn't grow up watching the series. And lets be honest here, the metagame today is so hyperoptimized it makes it impossible for casuals and newbies to play at all. People like that and existing "pro" playerbase want two entirely different things with the game. The current playerbase wants reprints of high tier deck essentials, meanwhile casuals just want something they can mess around with their friends with. I've seen both, and the latter seem to enjoy the game a lot more than the former. I think a lot of people have forgotten stuff like this is supposed to be fun, not a contest to see who can blow more money than the other and get blessed by the gacha gods on their card pack pulls.
Honestly, from a beginner perspective, this isn't bad depending on the price. Magic the Gathering has its own starter deck sets and those sell decently, especially with the code to scan the decks into their app. It WOULD have been great if this product came with either dedicated power-up packs or a mega pack from last year. I can't wait to see how this improves over the years!
Ah. Magic the gathering Starter 1999 2 player set. Still have it all boxed up too. Probably started my whole TCG obsession.
@@darkwyngraym Yu-Gi-Oh will always be my first tcg love, but Magic and its easy customization for deck building (especially for EDH/Commander) is what truly got me into deck building.
It costs $25.
With how complicated Yugioh can get, this is nice to see for new players. Kinda hope they make 1-2 more with Fusion, Ritual, Pendulum, and Link.
"Very very nice cards" 😂😂😂 tell yourself and KONAMI no lies.
Sparkman getting zeusd for the first time
The ojama green with sparkman and ryu-ran was so random to me. If that was my starting hand I'd quit immediately lol
I kinda wouldn’t mind picking up one of these just to have decks for my friends that are new to dueling. The decks themselves don’t appear to be great but I guess that doesn’t matter to a new player.
I will be able to grab around 10 cards i want and like for 20 bucks instead of only Zeus with 20 bucks fine by me thanks konami keep up the great work, you just saved me around 10 euros at least!
So we might get 2 more 2 player start decks. I think it will be fusion vs link and ritual vs pendulum.
for the ritual id like to see og skull guardian get a real non tournament printing
Actually really like this product. Ive tried in the past to get some friends who have never played a tcg into yugioh and it was difficult. I made two decks which played similar to something from goat format cause i thought that it would be easier for them to learn the game except it wasnt they were still confused and overwhelmed.
Too bad you can only play these decks exclusively against each other because those main decks are so unplayable that you will curb stomp them if they want to play against any other deck than those 2 to the point they won't want to play again
@@iXSIKOBOIXi To elaborate on what he said here:
The Main deck of these 2 decks would loose to common decks which were played back in 2005. These decks release 18+ years out of date ...
You guys hate this but tbh as a new player, me and my gf wanted to get into this and it sounds like a good starting point for not knowing anything.
"for not knowing anything" who in 2024 do not know about master duel , duel links or another platform.
OK I'm definitely picking this up. So many nostalgia cards, that new art Dark Magician, it's like a love letter to Yu-Gi-Oh! throughout the ages whilst focusing on newer extra deck methods. I think a second one that focuses on Fusions and Links would be quite nice, I love fusion one of the better game mechanics.
Love the scripted duel format something I've always like for beginner focused sets. Would love to unbox and even do the duel for my channel.
You should record a video with a new player or two and this set
I guess we're not gonna be teaching people about the most common mechanic in the game: Searching the deck LMAO
Everyone acting like this product was supposed to be a Structure Deck with the negativity, but this product is supposed to be literally a TUTORIAL for the game. Not even starter deck level, but TUTORIAL level.
If someone told me I can learn a whole new TCG from scratch, have some decent staples, reprints that people want (zeus, coral dragon, daigusto emeral, visas etc. etc.), and a potentially playable deck? For only $20? Sure why not try it out
Yes its a tutorial, but its not good. It teaches you a game that doesnt exist and you will subsequently lose every game you play until you sit down, do hours of research online to actually learn the modern game at which point you couldve easily just gotten the info that these decks provide you online as well. Synchro and XYZ summoning are not the reason why yugioh is hard to get into, its the million of small rulings that arent listed anywhere but are necessary to play and play against many decks, the complexity of combos in every archetype, even simple interactions like "MST doesnt negate" are not often covered by these beginner products.
It feels very odd that they left out Link Summoning. I know both decks focus on one kind of ED Summon Mechanic, but Link Summoning feels integral to the modern game. I guess its just so common at this point Konami is constantly behind the player base in terms of keeping up on newer things to their own game, i.e. OTS Packs and Ban List changes. But they are always there to gate keep the rarities on modern cards you need for good decks!
Also fusions and pends
Links had it own starter decks years ago. Then pends had its own starter deck before that and so on. Guess it is impossible to teach everything in one starter deck.
It's not impossible it just konami being lazy. These starter decks are not even decks. There piles that sure teach you the rules and not the game
i do not link summon in about 2 of my decks and in one of then it's probably never going to happen and in the fusion one it's only for 2 monsters...
As a true beginner product with the scripted duel I think this works , BUT it’s going to be a huge miss if konami doesn’t put out some kind of intermediate/advanced skill version of this product
This teaches a person how to play the game and interact with their opponent, but it doesn’t teach them how archetypes works or how to sequence their moves. You can say structure decks fill this role but I’ve seen many people struggle with piloting them “correctly”
Agreed the next product in this line needs to be fusion vs links and teach new players how archetypes work and how basic combos work.
Then they need to work on making locals more new player friendly. One idea would be to do rental tournaments similar to master duel. This would allow for Konami to determine the power of each deck. They could also mark the cards as rental and not allowed in any duel outside those events to discourage stealing the cards
I imagine that the second set is something along the lines of "Fusion (Branded/Aleister/Machine stuff) vs Link (Scareclow [Basic Mini core])" to supplement these decks
as a new player, i would be more interested if it had a proper rulebook. i wanted to print something to have as a reference while playing and its insane that I had to consolidate several articles and a rulebook.
I expect not many people in the community who already play to be interested in this, unless they plan to introduce the game to acquaintances, but it’s a nice product to have for basics!
or they want zeus
@@setantasque I still need my Zeus, that's for sure
@@setantasque and Vsauce
It has a couple of cards that can be used in edison, and tbh, edison is a really good and cheap format to teach someone the game. Also zeus reprint letsgo
@@guto5009 bro at that point just buy the singles and not this
Random speed duel format cards...and a Zeus lol
Well, for actually teaching the absolute basics of the game, it’s ok. But it seems like it’s practically impossible for Konami to make a deck that’s playable out of the box.
how about the last few structure decks sure u need 3 of them but u dont need any extra cards to make them a viable option
@sirthorodos3012 Yes, the past few have been better, but the fact that you have to buy three is stupid in and of itself, since the structure decks for games like Pokémon and MTG are complete with only one. As I said, it’s not playable out of the box.
@@astercat49you act like the playable-out-of-the-box mtg/pokemon structures aren't $30/40 on their own. It's no different from buying 3 $10 yugioh structures.
@johnnickfanaccount3492 While it isn’t different cost-wise, it is still different. The fact that you have to buy three of a product just to be able to make something remotely playable is stupid. It would genuinely be better if the structure decks were designed as a one and done deal where you get the full deck with one purchase. That would also cut down on the garbage filler that takes up the majority of slots in structure decks.
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 The issue is that new players don't know to buy 3. They buy 1 play it and find out that its bad.
Same thing with this product it teaches you a format that couldnt be further from real yugioh if it tried.
All of the learning experience for yugioh is dumped onto the players and the new players ability to look up info online when every other card game has relatively good tutorials.
This realistically could definitely be better, it should have four decks as opposed to two one for each of the primary extra deck mechanics, and maybe I’ll throw a bone and say 6 so you can do Pendulum and Rituals.
In the flip side, for what it is as an introductory point, it’s really not that bad.
Probably saving those other extra deck types for another product that teaches players about archetypes and combos
The Metacels are already malding
Penguin soldier reprint!
Coral dragon is cool. Common print visas is extremely funny
Why do people complain about these type of starter decks. Starter decks are meant for kids or new people getting into the game not for good reprints
People complain because this doesnt do that. This teaches people to play fantasy goat format in 2024. If konami wanted a simpler product to teach people the basics they couldve made this an edison product with reprints relevant to that format while also giving players a competent deck that can be played there without affecting the modern yugioh market.
imo the two things this is missing is
a) another product that adds a bridge between the base game mechanics and the complexity of the modern game
b) similar products for links/fusions/penulums
Zeus and Coral Dragon are actually great Reprints
Zeus being the selling point of the product is more than enough to grab it. It's worth it I'd say.
@RevzCards do you have any suggestions for a earthbound deck build?
When is this coming out
Card print quality looks pretty nice - can you confirm if the cards came out the box without quality control issues/damage?
Zeus reprint is nice!
A 20€ Zeus reprint bundled with 70+ cards of trash.
I love it and that Zeus would help family so much. I already have one and they hate me for it. lol.
Literally any structure deck would be a better purchase than this even to new players. Huge miss.
A new player is going to struggle understanding why fire king island adding garunix triggers garunix
Not really honestly. I feel that for the purpose of teaching the game, this does a good job. It's just too dumbed down and starts from literal zero, but it's okay
@@endeav0r_49 I feel like all this does is teach the most basic mechanics, not how cards work together or what a strategy looks like in the game
@@audricburris6946 Nah the rulebook from what I've glanced does a decent job explaining things like missed activation timing, chains, etc.
@@thefirstsurvivor And this won't teach them that either.
People are hating on this but to be fair any search fucks it up the comic book specifically and I think it is a good way to start
Am looking forward to the sick cards
Best product of all time lets gooooo
I think is a regular product, I expected more handtraps mininum veiler, it would be better with more recent cards or mechanics including Link and Pendulum, the gap between a beginner to intermediate player is very big
Not sure why everyone is complaining so much. This is clearly intended for new players learning the basics, not for experienced players. TCG is getting like a dozen product releases over the next couple months. Not every single one has to be aimed at veteran players. People also complaining that there is no synergy with the cards and no single coherent archetype but forget that this is literally how yugioh was played until 07/08. The game is complicated af, no new players wants to open a traptrix structure deck, spend dozens of hours learning the complexities of the modern game, and then get rolled by mannadium at locals. This gives new players a slow, gradual way of learning the game. Starting hand being vanillas can first teach levels, normal summons/sets, atk and def stat, battling. Then later in the scripted duel they learn effect monsters, spells, traps, etc. I actually really like this idea, but might be too late unfortunately. Barrier to entry for yugioh is already absurdly high, but still a nice effort of blending new and old cards for a new player experience. I still think speed duels, rush duels, or very gradually learning/playing goat then Edison then modern method is the best
I'm only considering it just to get Zeus, Primeheart, and Emeral. There are others in there I want, but it's mainly for those 3. Personally this is okay for folks who just want to started and get a Zeus. Because as a reminder folks, Zeus is like 20 if you're buying it off direct in TCGPlayer and Emeral hasn't had a reprint in a while, so a guarantee on both is good.
Emeral is cheap tho
I bought it for 50 cents
@@kagekitsune98_56 Fair, but getting a freshly new one from a new set just feels nicer to me.
Same i might jus buy my set of 3x just for lolz as my local store pretty much sells them out real quick
Let's not act like Zeus doesn't go down to like $5 after getting a guaranteed pull reprint here and you can just buy that rather than wasting your money on this set. And primeheart and emerald are change bro
Seriously. On one hand, its a good showcase of the common mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh! for people who dont even know the basics. On the other hand, the only "plus" are the miniscule Meta reprints. Which only are worth it, if the set is dirtcheap. I think its a good start for bloody newbies, but they could have done so much better.
why'd they only leave out ojami black 🧐🧐
TRUE WHERE IS HE
I see what they're doing in teaching the basics to more advance. But still a little misleading to how the game is actually played. But I do like the uniqueness of the product.
Not a bad list but damn thats the wrong dark magician art xD
would be cool if this released alongside alternate Fusion vs Ritual and Pendulum vs Link versions.
About time this came out
been waiting for the list of this product
Where did u get get this
Common charity Zeus still alludes us…
Oh nice! We've got the old staples in here ..that's always nice to see
The 65th common printing of it
There was minor nostalgia here ...already have an ultimate rare giga brilliant so ..might enjoy the ultra version ....
Zeus is the only card here I haven't got ...just brought prime heart like a week ago 😐
Goat format players exist..
Serious question - why do you use all those ellipses?
These decks are legitimately unplayable outside of a scripted duel. There’s no synergy packed in here, only (at most) pairs of cards that MAY work well together, not even mentioning the fact that the majority of these cards are garbage on their own, that wouldn’t even fly in playground yugioh circa. 2007. Sad but not unexpected. Expect Zeus to be extremely pushed by vendors who bought cases of this product and can’t sell anything else from it.
Low key might pick this up
People out here saying people who don't agree with this product are missing the point are the ones that are actually missing the point.
It's the same Master Duel tutorial scenario where they're trying to get people into playing YGO only for them to drop the game immediately after getting handtrapped to oblivion and being like "WTF just happened???"
If you want new people playing Yu-Gi-Oh, teach them MODERN yugioh. All this does it try to teach people how to play within the early 2000s timeframe while attempting to get away with it because they teach you how to Zeus your opponent.
This is frigging scripted, they will be walked through the duels, it's not like they will have to come up with strategies by themselves. There's a bunch of Normal Monster crap that has been left in the dust forever now and I can't for the life of me wrap my head around the fact that you need to have something scripted in order to have poeple learn what Normal Monsters and their interactions are and what they can(not) do. They don't freaking matter!?
Phew. I feel much better now. Bye
Someone who gets it...
Honestly would have loved to see a small mannadium core in the box and for xyz maybe a small zoodiac core
Nice way to “Introduce” them to basic mechanics, just to immediately quit because they have to remortgage their house to play now 😂
I love the way you say poosh
Who wants to bet that teamaps are gonna make an actual duel video using this product
Was waiting for this video
This honestly seems like a pretty good way to be introduced to the game if you don’t want to watch RUclips for hours on end and get smoked at a couple locals tourneys. Pretty good reprints, DD crow, dark hole, cosmic cyclone, book of moon, are pretty solid and zeus is huge
But the cards arent based off an archetype or something. Just random piles thrown together. Wish they at least went with a theme or something
"DD crow"
Which allready has 4 reprints in common worth 0.15-0.50€.
"dark hole"
Has tons of reprints and goes for as low as 2 cents.
"cosmic cyclone"
Another 2 cent card with tons of reprints.
"book of moon"
Another 2 cent card.
Face it: even the "good reprints" are just outdated trash that has been reprinted ten times over. The only worthwhile card is Zeus and even that is a streach.
You get one card worth 10€ and a stack of garbage that adds up to maybe 2€, for 20€.
And if people buy that, then they support the scummy practice of shortprinting cards and bundling up reprints together with heaps of trash.
Nice Zeus reprint with like 40 cards of bulk
He didnt say who won in the scripted duel. But im gonna bet its the synchro deck that does.
Does need the meme in the beginning
people are kinda missing the point here. as a starting point this is brilliant. if you wanna introduce someone to the game, you buy them this and go from there. no need to come up with nonexistent sealed formats and teach them every mechanic step by step.
buy this, play a few games together. and then depending on how big the interest becomes, you move to structure decks or edopro
Did Konami employees just get really high and randomly pick random cards they wanted for this set?
I am happy about zues and dd crow
im so hyped for this
Hopefully are next two Starters Decks from Konami will be announced for being A Ritual Summoning Extra Deck, and also A Fusion Summoning Extra Deck for the Next Beginners Starters Two Decks Yugioh Set Please Please Konami and also Yugioh TCG Please!
Did somebody say "Cheap Zeus"?
There is literally nothing in here unless you play Common Charity. Eldlich and Visas Starfrost might add some neat stuff to do in that format but this is literally a $20 box containing a Zeus that was already $15 and therefore will not drop the price. 10/10 product Konami. Can't wait for the follow-up Metal Gear NFTs followed by the 276th Castlevania pachinko machine.
Idk what the price is but There's some not horrible stuff in here
they couldn't have put in more than 3 playable cards in the 2 decks? I'm sure this scripted duel thing will teach the basic mechanics, but no one is learning how to play the game or how cards work together with outdated random "good" stuff
Who told Konami that new players needed vanilla monsters????
They might make a theme that good that needs them one day but they should of picked better ones here and this is someone who likes normal monsters.
@@Acidonia150reborn 110%. if they were going to give vanillas they should’ve been at least good ones.
The older ones the Normals was the ones with the Highest Stats inlcuded. But they picked DM/GX ones here just to get older players back in. Why not just put those cards but make newer stronger version of them so a like 1500 def new Normal Ojama. This gets more to want the product because it includes new cards too I mean older starter deck did this.@@ClarkieReidri
Yooo, Emeral reprint.
Eldlich as a common. That is weird to me.
This is a great product, but awful execution. Having a bad dm staple filled deck isn't a great place to start:/
Everyone hating on this because it doesnt have any good cards besides zeus kinda missed the point of it.
It looks like they picked a wide variety of stuff to try and show players some of the more common interactions in the game without getting overly complicated. I think guiding new players through a scripted duel is probably a better approach than expecting them to sit down read a rule book and just play on their own.
I like the idea, wether or not it truly works has yet to be seen. Because not only does the product have to teach the basics but it has to be compelling enough to hook the new player in. I guess the hope is they get sucked in at the end of the duel, realize they dont have much replayability here with the included decks and then take a step up with 3 structure decks.
The bigest issue i see is this product seems to rely on 2 new players learning together. If you have a friend that has some interest, youd probably just build them a quick deck to play with and teach them yourself.
I think if this product isnt too expensive it would be an ok product for a total beginner. It all comes down to the MSRP
They could've had a scripted duel using cards actually do things tho. The moment those decks are shuffled, they wont do anything. Most of the reprints would've been bad a decade ago. This doesn't get anyone into the game, this doesn't teach anyone how it's played, it just walks them through a tour of all the game's mechanics
Konami…. wtf was the card choice here
Prayers before I watch the video:
Please dont be bulk please dont be bulk please dont be bulk
Edit:Its.....dogshit just awful worse than buying one structure deck and playing with just that,at this point get 3 fire king structure decks and play dont waste money on this disapointment
Its bulk
is it that hard for Konami to print an actual semi viable deck for a low price for new players?, I dont get it, it doesnt have to be a tier 1, or tier 2 deck but a decent deck with a solid structure that a player might even bring to a locals and perform decently or at least have a good time. Isnt that the point for this kind of products? I was actually kinda excited to tell my friends to pick this up so they can learn how to play but aint no way im recommending anyone to pick this shit up because it's completely useless in the year 2024.
Considering Konami designed this product for those who want to start playing yugioh from scratch, i think it's okay. Like sure i get why people are complaining how both decks are full of unplayable cards and how they could've done a better job (which i agree), but you have to keep in mind new players would get instantly turned off by the sheer amount of shit they would have to learn right from the get go. That being said, i'm still going to buy the product because i desperately need a copy of Zeus and Coral Dragon.
Instead new players still have to learn about all that stuff that konami hid from them and they will instead quit after their first real duel against a meta deck.
"but you have to keep in mind new players would get instantly turned off by the sheer amount of shit they would have to learn right from the get go. "
Expecting new players to learn the concept of a handtrap is not that out of place. Kuriboh was released in 2002.
And the concept of a synergy between types or multiple special summons is just as old. Remember flute of dragon summoning?
You can EASILY teach new players these mechanics with cards that are still relavent today.
I doubt new players will have a problem understanding effect veilor, Bottomless Traphole, Imperm, Evenly Matched, Solemn Judgement or Nibiru.
I equally doubt that new players will have a problem with Lavagolem, Kaijus or a small Scrap engine.
Those are not expensive. They are not complicated. They are still used in a variety of decks.
I think pokemon tcg did the scripted duel thing first
I need this.
There's a few nice reprints but unless it's like $8, I likely ain't getting it.
So lets say a kid or maybe two kids buy this together for the two player aspect, they play through the scripted duel, maybe duel against each other, but then what? neither of these starter decks offer a way to actually start playing the game against people not using this specific product.
If a kid takes this and thinks it's a actual starting point for actually playing the game and not just a tutorial it's going to be disappointing for them when they realize these decks will lose to pretty much anything considered a deck by modern standards.
Honestly a couple proper starter decks and a QR code linking to some virtual tutorial maybe using master duel as a jumping point for a virtual scripted duel, would of made more sense, that way the kid could actually take that starter deck and do something with it, even if it was like a full blue eyes deck and a full dark magician deck
and it's a product that requires the child read the cardboard that says do not shuffle and trusting they wont fumble the deck in some way.
I real feel how hards it is to act like this is not a terrible release. the idea could have worked if it was Pokémon since it has done L2 deck sets and they know how to make good competive starter decks but konami is incapable of printing decent competive decks in an guaranteed set.
Who cares if it's good?. Fun is fun not everything has to be competitive. And the raritys dont mattwr much
This isn't worth $20, but it'll be a decent $14 buy
Wait
There's people who WANT to come into the game?
So in short: A total of 4 cards which are worth keeping, 6 cards which you may want to keep, a few situational cards and 70+ cards of absolute trash that belongs in the garbage and was not even played way back in 2002.
... Is that supposed to be a joke?
A better start for new players would be just buying Structure Deck: Freezing Chains and a Structure Deck: Cyber Strike. You are cheaper off, have some staples in them, have a solid core which you can turn into an actual playable deck and wont toss away 90% of the cards upon opening the pack.
How did they mess this product up?????