Thankyou so much for this video,I know it's not the latest models ( now) ,but I wanted to know the differences between the two and you have explained it brilliantly! I now know it's the Joymax Z+ that I want. So Thankyou very much for your help xx
Stellar review as others have commented on as well. You da’ man! Adjustable screws under the seat, who else knows that kind of information and passes it along, (no one but you)?! Wishing you the very best. Rola (Oregon / USA)
I love the JM look and style much more. Love the adjustable back support. As I understand both are lacking a hazard light switch. Thank you for showing
I really like your videos as they are always very informativ. I would like to see a test video of the joymax z+300 (or 250). At present I use a Honda Sh150i for commuting. But I am looking for a 300cc scooter. Honda Forza, Yamaha Xmax, Kymco Downtown & Sym Cruisym are top on my list. But then I saw the new Design oder the Joymax: it got me straight away. Looks a bit like a brother of the Xmas. I like the look! So now it is top on my list and I try to suck in every information about it. But because this model is quite new, there are almost none Tests or reviews. Thanx a lot. I apreciate your work!
It rides 95% the same as the cruisym, and there is a video on my channel with a ride of the cruisym. For the moment the joymax we have in the showroom is not registered so I can't take it out on the road. If it gets registered and I can take it out I will surely do a first ride video on it 😁
@@RideWithAlex yes i saw all of the cruisym videos! And the maxym400. (But for daily commuting 50% city 50% 100kmh its too much power)! I am looking foward to see such videos of the new joymax! Keep on going with your reviews! Good luck!
congratulation for this video I was looking a video for a comparation between this two scooter for make a chooise and you explain very well the principal different I think for the city the joymax 300 is the right solution for the better lighting the better position of the foot for more agility shift of the scooter in the traffic and a lombard support also adjustable in three different position thank you again personally with this video I have now no more doubt about my chooise that is joymax 300 also aesthetically I prefer the frontal of joymax but about the display the cruisym is better
Hello #Alex B Many thanks for your comparative video. In Italy are available both 300cc. I prefer the Joymax 300 (it has TS) due to lower price and lumbar support, mechanically they are identical.
Thanks alex.. These models are not available here in morocco.. Cruisym 300 was replaced with Joyride 300.. Cruisym 300 was 69000mad~ 6700€ the Joyride is 49000mad~4800€.. I still have Cruisym 300 2018model.. Wonderful machine with 52000 km.. Sometimes spare parts are too expensive (original belt 1770mad~168€)
Thanks very much for another in deep and clear review. Alex could you please tell your opinion on the engine side between the HD300 and the Joymax? I know the engines are the same but they still have sligh differences also I just learned that Sym discontinued the production of the HD300!
Thanks for the video and insight into both bikes. Just to let you know i had to turnthe volume way up on the computer when you did the wider shots. maybe a microphone would help. hope this helps :) Nice bikes though. would you rate the 125cc for long distance riding also?
The video is 1 year old, I already have a lav mic and much better gear then when I filmed this. As rating the 125cc a long distance bike, sure usually 125cc bikes have a cruising speed of around 90km/h that's where they like to be for long periods o time, so if you're okay with that then you can go anywhere on it.
@@RideWithAlex I didnt notice the date of filming lol. yeah happy with the speed of a 125, I go out with other guys who have similar sized vespas/royal alloys etc. just need a bigger fuel tank than the fiddle i have at the moment :)
@@minimad8793 same here on my ST, I just carry a Givi TAN01 2.5L fuel can with me when I go on long distance trip do I have backup and it's been very comforting since I got it.
Hello Alex, There is a side case carrier available for the cruisym. Now my question: Is the joymax at the back and side of the mounting points the same as the cruisym? Greetings and thank you
Other nice video. Finally Z+ is better cruiser than the Adx 125...Better cruiser and more protected...Wider and more like a bigger scooter...Larger distances must be more confortable, I think...You're a great Romanian guy 😂
Do you plan on making little trips with the Joymax Z+? I know you guys don't get the 300cc there, but it would still be nice to know how comfortable, and capable the 125cc would be on the long road.
Salut Alex!. Oscilez intre Joymax si Kymco X-town 300 i care e mai ieftin cu vreo 500 de euro. Avand in vedere experienta ta, care ar fi sfatul pentru achizitie, comparînd fiabilitatea, consumul, raport calitate pret, motoare, confort? Multumesc, anticipat!
Salut, din poze si specificatii X-Town pare bun la pretul actual. Din pacate nu am experienta cu modelul in persoana dar in materie de fiabilitate SYM si KYMCO sunt la acelasi nivel.
Hello, I have a JM 1st gen, my question is can I put a Cruise windshield on my JM for more protection? Because I make a lot of long distance with it. Thank you
If it's the old one one from 2010 then no, if it's 2018 and above then yes, but get the givi version for your model, much more wind protection then the stock windshield
I don't think it will, the grece importer likes to keep the joymax and the cruisym separated, as in you want a 250 you get the joymax you want 300 you get the cruisym. Talk to your local dealer and maybe you can place a special order if you really want a joymax 300 but you might have to wait 3-6 months for it to arrive because it's defenetly not in stock anywhere on eastern Europe and the balcans.
For the moment it's not registered so I can't take it out on the road like I did with the cruysim. But if it gets registration for sure I will do a first ride.
Is it possible to demonstrate the status when you are actually on this bike? And let us know your height for reference, thanks. I am not sure if I could handle this bike will cause I am only 173 cm. Thanks,bro.
I am 1.75 and I can handle then both without any problem, flat footing them no problem. Go sit on both of them, I prefer the cruisym for long distance riding
Hi, I would like to see in the video yourself sitting on both scooters, extending your legs on the long floor level to see different on driver. Thank you
You really have to try them yourself, some people can't feel any difference and some can feel a big difference. I am pretty short in the legs so for me they are both identically comfortable
@@azegzawabarkan8680 Go look at them both sit on them, see which one is more comfortable for you and considering we are talking about a second hand model see which one is in better condition.
Greetings to Romania. Which scooter is more convenient for you: Joymax, or Cruissym? Which one would you choose for a longer ride? How do they unequalities of these scooters? Is there a difference between them, as far as Shockers are concerned? Do these scooters of warm air from the radiator to the foot of the rider for its comfort in colder weather? Thank you for any answers. Gustáv.
Hello there, for long distance trips I would take the cruisym, more wind protection and more leg room. Suspension is the same on both of them and it's pretty good, comfortable. And they don't have a vent to get warm air from the radiator to your legs.
The best comparison of these scooters on RUclips. Thanks for this!
Thank you!
Thank you, you helped me a lot and answered a lot of questions I had
My pleasure 😁
Finally a complete video that compare two models, apparently similar but in the real so different. Thanks for share this comparative video.
My pleasure!
Thankyou so much for this video,I know it's not the latest models ( now) ,but I wanted to know the differences between the two and you have explained it brilliantly! I now know it's the Joymax Z+ that I want. So Thankyou very much for your help xx
Glad the video was informative 😁
Stellar review as others have commented on as well. You da’ man! Adjustable screws under the seat, who else knows that kind of information and passes it along, (no one but you)?! Wishing you the very best. Rola (Oregon / USA)
Thank you from Spain.
I learn a lot with this video.
My pleasure
I love the JM look and style much more.
Love the adjustable back support.
As I understand both are lacking a hazard light switch.
Thank you for showing
Both of them have a hazard light switch. Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/4gG0N-Ob_9U/видео.html
@@RideWithAlex Great!
It’s so important
I sold my Piaggio Beverly 350 because it did not (and was not comfortable on longer rides)
Try the cruisym for comfort. For me it's the most comfortable thing on 2 wheels I have ever ridden
@@RideWithAlexasta e motivul pentru care imi doresc cuisym-ul 🤗
This was exactly the video I was looking for.
You are welcomed :D
Great explanation, clear and concise. Thank you 🙌
My pleasure! 😁
Thanks for the video, I've been wondering for some time what the differences were, as the brand's webpage was not too clear.
I really like your videos as they are always very informativ. I would like to see a test video of the joymax z+300 (or 250). At present I use a Honda Sh150i for commuting. But I am looking for a 300cc scooter. Honda Forza, Yamaha Xmax, Kymco Downtown & Sym Cruisym are top on my list. But then I saw the new Design oder the Joymax: it got me straight away. Looks a bit like a brother of the Xmas. I like the look! So now it is top on my list and I try to suck in every information about it. But because this model is quite new, there are almost none Tests or reviews. Thanx a lot. I apreciate your work!
It rides 95% the same as the cruisym, and there is a video on my channel with a ride of the cruisym. For the moment the joymax we have in the showroom is not registered so I can't take it out on the road. If it gets registered and I can take it out I will surely do a first ride video on it 😁
@@RideWithAlex yes i saw all of the cruisym videos! And the maxym400. (But for daily commuting 50% city 50% 100kmh its too much power)! I am looking foward to see such videos of the new joymax! Keep on going with your reviews! Good luck!
congratulation for this video I was looking a video for a comparation between this two scooter for make a chooise and you explain very well the principal different I think for the city the joymax 300 is the right solution for the better lighting the better position of the foot for more agility shift of the scooter in the traffic and a lombard support also adjustable in three different position thank you again personally with this video I have now no more doubt about my chooise that is joymax 300 also aesthetically I prefer the frontal of joymax but about the display the cruisym is better
Multumesc Alex. Super review ca intotdeauna ! GG
Mulțumesc! 😁
Ai descris perfect ... diferența. Felicitări!
Cu placere :)
Cruisym Alpha 300 😍😍
Hello #Alex B Many thanks for your comparative video. In Italy are available both 300cc. I prefer the Joymax 300 (it has TS) due to lower price and lumbar support, mechanically they are identical.
Thanks alex.. These models are not available here in morocco.. Cruisym 300 was replaced with Joyride 300.. Cruisym 300 was 69000mad~ 6700€ the Joyride is 49000mad~4800€.. I still have Cruisym 300 2018model.. Wonderful machine with 52000 km.. Sometimes spare parts are too expensive (original belt 1770mad~168€)
Thanks very much for another in deep and clear review.
Alex could you please tell your opinion on the engine side between the HD300 and the Joymax?
I know the engines are the same but they still have sligh differences also I just learned that Sym discontinued the production of the HD300!
The engines are the same, so much the same I can't tell the difference between them while riding
Thanks for your video, and I've been waiting for this to be available in Taiwan. So it provides a great reference for me. Thanks!
我也在等阿 哈哈哈
Thanks for the video and insight into both bikes. Just to let you know i had to turnthe volume way up on the computer when you did the wider shots. maybe a microphone would help. hope this helps :)
Nice bikes though. would you rate the 125cc for long distance riding also?
The video is 1 year old, I already have a lav mic and much better gear then when I filmed this. As rating the 125cc a long distance bike, sure usually 125cc bikes have a cruising speed of around 90km/h that's where they like to be for long periods o time, so if you're okay with that then you can go anywhere on it.
@@RideWithAlex I didnt notice the date of filming lol. yeah happy with the speed of a 125, I go out with other guys who have similar sized vespas/royal alloys etc. just need a bigger fuel tank than the fiddle i have at the moment :)
@@minimad8793 same here on my ST, I just carry a Givi TAN01 2.5L fuel can with me when I go on long distance trip do I have backup and it's been very comforting since I got it.
@@RideWithAlex just checked. quite cheap for a fuel can, I may have to get one. thanks for the advice dude. appreciated
@@minimad8793 you are welcome :D
I heard today SYM South Africa is planning on bringing the JoyMax to South Africa. Fingers crossed, I hope its true.
Hello Alex,
There is a side case carrier available for the cruisym. Now my question: Is the joymax at the back and side of the mounting points the same as the cruisym?
Greetings and thank you
As far as I know they are the same at the back end.
Merci
Thank's for the video
My pleasure :)
I wonder how hard would it be to relocate the Joymaxs mirrors to the fairing
Maybe someone makes a kit for it.
did you do a review on the JoyMax z+300? I can't find it on your channel. found the cruisym, but joyMax didn’t
It's 95% identical to the cruisym 300
@@RideWithAlex I understand. Is the dynamics and handling also 95% the same?
@@dustwashere6553 it's the same frame with the same engine, they are 100% the same
@@RideWithAlex thanx
Hi from Croatia 🇭🇷, joymax
Other nice video. Finally Z+ is better cruiser than the Adx 125...Better cruiser and more protected...Wider and more like a bigger scooter...Larger distances must be more confortable, I think...You're a great Romanian guy 😂
The Z+ is in a different class, it's a true maxi scooter.
Do you plan on making little trips with the Joymax Z+? I know you guys don't get the 300cc there, but it would still be nice to know how comfortable, and capable the 125cc would be on the long road.
Don't have on registered so I can't at the moment 🤷
Thanks 👍
But also important: The Joymax is 14 kg lighter!
You are right, but 10kg.
@@educhanel With 1.72 m height you will notice the difference 😛
@@AK-so4rl 🤔 Height???
My size!
Thanks Alex great stuff
My pleasure!
Joymax Z!I ll buy the scooter and waiting for it in 250cc!
Salut Alex!. Oscilez intre Joymax si Kymco X-town 300 i care e mai ieftin cu vreo 500 de euro. Avand in vedere experienta ta, care ar fi sfatul pentru achizitie, comparînd fiabilitatea, consumul, raport calitate pret, motoare, confort? Multumesc, anticipat!
Salut, din poze si specificatii X-Town pare bun la pretul actual. Din pacate nu am experienta cu modelul in persoana dar in materie de fiabilitate SYM si KYMCO sunt la acelasi nivel.
@@RideWithAlex Multumesc, mult!
Hello, I have a JM 1st gen, my question is can I put a Cruise windshield on my JM for more protection? Because I make a lot of long distance with it. Thank you
If it's the old one one from 2010 then no, if it's 2018 and above then yes, but get the givi version for your model, much more wind protection then the stock windshield
can the joymax 300cc keep going 120 kmh in the highway for long distance with no problems being caused to the engine? Thank you buddy
Yeah, the 300 is OK, it's regular cruising speed is 110-120. It can do that all day long.
Scusate.. ma visto che meccanicamente sembra identico. Posso comprare lo scarico Arrow del cruisym 300 per metterlo sul joymax z+?
Posso sapere se monta lo scarico del cruisym 300 su Joymax Z+?
Yes the Cruisym and the Joymax use the same exhaust (both the E4 and E5 and both the 250 and 300. It will work, no problem.
Can you tell me about price difference , also total price for both?
For that talk to your local Sym dealership
Felicitari Alex B :)
Nu faci si un review la NHT 200 ??
Mulțumesc, aștept stocurile 😁
Hi Alex, i follow your channel with interest. Please, can you do a video on the Sym HD 300 E5? Best regards Francesco
I'm planning on it very soon, hope it all works out :D
Do you know when joymax z+ 300 will be available romania and greece?
I don't think it will, the grece importer likes to keep the joymax and the cruisym separated, as in you want a 250 you get the joymax you want 300 you get the cruisym. Talk to your local dealer and maybe you can place a special order if you really want a joymax 300 but you might have to wait 3-6 months for it to arrive because it's defenetly not in stock anywhere on eastern Europe and the balcans.
Hello!I whould like a see a test video on the road with Joymax Z+ 250 2021 if you can...!Thank u.
For the moment it's not registered so I can't take it out on the road like I did with the cruysim. But if it gets registration for sure I will do a first ride.
Thank you my friend👍
Is it possible to demonstrate the status when you are actually on this bike? And let us know your height for reference, thanks. I am not sure if I could handle this bike will cause I am only 173 cm. Thanks,bro.
I am 1.75 and I can handle then both without any problem, flat footing them no problem. Go sit on both of them, I prefer the cruisym for long distance riding
But you have not explained the Seat height difference (760 vs 747) mm
I think it's simply the seat design, the frame is exactly the same and the seats are interchangeable
Is it good Joymax Z+ for taller riders 186cm???
I would go for the cruisym, it has more leg room
Like from Spain
Thank you
Hi, I would like to see in the video yourself sitting on both scooters, extending your legs on the long floor level to see different on driver. Thank you
You really have to try them yourself, some people can't feel any difference and some can feel a big difference. I am pretty short in the legs so for me they are both identically comfortable
Is there a difference between joymax and gts?
Yes, the old gts had a different frame to the modern joymax.
@@RideWithAlex thanks for your quick response
@@RideWithAlex if i should chose between a joymax 125cc or gts 125cc both from 2018 which one should i chose
@@azegzawabarkan8680 Go look at them both sit on them, see which one is more comfortable for you and considering we are talking about a second hand model see which one is in better condition.
Puteți prezenta și un jet x 125?
E pe lista, sa sosească in stoc mai întâi :)
For 12 hour every day delivery work
Who will be more comfortable?
I think for the delivery work, out of the 2 the joymax is better suited, but tbh if you do deliverys just get the HD300
Engine quality?
We have scooters with over 50.000km still running strong with just regular maintenance no repairs on the engine.
Heavy for a 125. 170kg is more the weight of a honda forza 350. Make a difference on a low power 125. 150kg or less ia ideal
The point of 125cc maxi scooter is to abide for legislation in certain countrys. The units in this video were 250-300cc
If the cruisym have led hadlight he was perfect
The cruisym does have LED headlights. Since 2021 all SYM's over 125cc have led headlights.
@@RideWithAlex i ment big one like the joymax on the front
@@צחיעזר-ה5י yes, high beam and low beam are LED on both of them.
@@RideWithAlex you dont anderstand me😒
@@צחיעזר-ה5י what don't I understand? The cruisym has all ALL ALL ALL LED LIGHTS. there is not a single halogen bulb on the cruisym
Greetings to Romania. Which scooter is more convenient for you: Joymax, or Cruissym? Which one would you choose for a longer ride?
How do they unequalities of these scooters? Is there a difference between them, as far as Shockers are concerned?
Do these scooters of warm air from the radiator to the foot of the rider for its comfort in colder weather? Thank you for any answers. Gustáv.
Hello there, for long distance trips I would take the cruisym, more wind protection and more leg room. Suspension is the same on both of them and it's pretty good, comfortable. And they don't have a vent to get warm air from the radiator to your legs.
I better likes cruisym..
In lingua italiana no??????
I don't speak Italian :)
Subs please.
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@@RideWithAlex presentation is very bad
@@yalandunyadasuren ok, the video is 1 year old, things have moved on :)
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