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Was Kingdom Hearts III Really That BAD?!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- "Where is the Final Fantasy? I was told there would be Final Fantasy! The Final Fantasy is a lie...."
--some misinformed dude (probably Sten from Dragon Age)
#kh3 #animegame #gamereview #kingdomhearts
I hated how Square Enix spoiled the entire game with all the trailers showing off every world
SE didn't spoil anything. Them showing the game off is not the issue. The issue is that there wasn't more to the game than what they showed. So when you actually played the game, you beat it and you go "wait...that's it?"
I was a simple man.
All I wanted for KHIII was for Destiny Islands to be explorable again, ever since we got to see the "town" section in KHII.
But nope. It's still reduced to a cutscene-only world. Thanks, Nomura.
"0/5 - No Eeyore" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wish we'd gotten him instead of the Heffalump. That chess game really is the perfect metaphor.
So in KH4, we building Voyager or NX-01? 😝
Hmmmm, gonna have to go with the Enterprise-E! That one is my favorite ship right next to the Excelsior class starships. ;)
The problem to me is that there was no plot. It was just whimsical shenanigans until the final stage of the game. We waited so many years for nothing.
That being said, the gameplay was fun
I know a number of people who got PS3s for KH3. Oops. They probably bought 1.5 and 2.5 though, so.... I guess they got better options anyway.
Yeah the story was all over the place, even by kh standards. I also feel the VA was terrible compared to previous instalments, even with returning actors reprising their roles (specially Quinton Flynn and David Gallagher)
Imagine if they added Pokemon characters in Kingdom Hearts
"Hey sora it's Ghetsis"
tbh I liked kh3... that game was massive and very fun to play through. Equating 'somehow palpatine returned' with xehanort returning because his heartless and his nobody were defeated is a bit silly. One has no explanation whatsoever, the other atleast tries and does make sense in the context of what we've seen before. I do agree about the lack of ff characters though, that was a real shame. I hope they return in 4
@@sinewrites6581 You got me there. Star Wars offered up zero explanation. KH was just a baffling explanation but an explanation none the less.
"Like Disney or DIE" - That about sums it up.
Disney is the only brand I fear more than Nintendo.
It wasn’t bad, no Kingdom Hearts game is “bad.” But it was just such questionable decisions every time like why not have Final Fantasy Characters! Why not show more Final Fantasy worlds? Why are we watching complete retelling of stories already told, why can’t we have a solid conclusion (on release) it was just puzzling decision upon puzzling decision. I don’t understand even now. (I haven’t played since 2019 lol.)
KH3 is underwhelming and yet phenomenal at the same time. Like Trippie Redds voice
My problem with this game is the story-pacing, rushed finale and the worst of all (for me at least) is the side characters being overshadowed by sora and made him the one who solves all the problems while the side characters could do nothing aka: the insert main character who do everything while everyone is useless (aqua and ventus were tired so at least there are excuses on that but riku and mickey... c'mon that's just waste man).
Masashi Kishimoto moment
@@cdcm17 unfortunately 😔
The game wasn’t bad, but more underwhelming. For a title I was expecting to give so much, it actually gave me less then I was looking for. The game is still enjoyable, but I don’t thing it’s the epic conclusion to the story I was hoping
A Star Trek gummi ship?! YOOOO! You got that creativity just like me! 😃
@@SuperDragonBlader I always try to make Star Trek ships in any game that let's me build a ship. Fun fact, if you pause the screen at the part where I'm showing off my gummi ships from KH1, you can see some other cool sci-fi creations that I made long ago. ;)
@@BenKii I made Gummi Ships of my own too. And even edited the premade ones and aesthetically turned them into OP fighter jets. ~
I'm glad he mentioned the easiness/single button smashing. The first time I played the game my buddy gave me the controller on the final boss fight and I beat him by just smashing x with one hand and texting with the other.
It wasn't that bad, it was WORSE.
@@joyhappiness Appears I was right. Opinions on KH3 are controversially mixed.
@@BenKii there really isn't any controversy about it. Game's story was rushed (and sidelined for sequelbaiting), vanilla KH3 was slow and floaty gameplay wise, and the worlds' level design was LARGE EMPTY ROOM just like in DDD.
folks love to sing praise for Remind and 1.09 abilities, but those both came a year after the game released.
KH3 is mid.
Proud mode in kingdom hearts 3 made me learn how to parry. As I was going a magic build.
My complaint is about all the minigame worlds. I understand gimmicks but god why is the carribean just ship combat? Once i got glide i never went on a ship again. Then the story just feels like a final act and a set up for whats coming, which is fine but maybe not for a numbered title. Its like kh3 is ddd's epilogue.
@@MrSasyB I didn't think about gliding over the sea. That sounds cool!
so theres a interview about why there wasnt FF characters in 3 initally, nomura apparently thought that people didnt like the FF characters and was writting them out of the story.
i still love the data super bosses from the DLC, i may got issues with the full extend of how the combat functions, but learning those fights were some of the most fun i had with KH3.
@@drantino Part of my disappointment with the dlc is that they promised to put FF back in. And when I played it, the FF was only a token 5 minute cutscene. The data fights are decent but the failed promise of putting the FF back in left me soured.
didnt watch a single advertisement for it, didnt listen to a single opinion on it, went in 100% blind. had a great time but cringed at some parts, but ey, you get cringe mixing disney and square enix. 8/10 experience
Yknow. Maybe its cuz i played literally every single kingdom hearts game and understand thr story so well.
But im still invested into the story myself.
Also basically kingdom hearts 3 explains it with some fluff text that. A lot of things changed Before during and after the keyblade war. Including how time works causing things like Xehanorts plan to bring his 13 selves to make him no longer just pure darkness, he was actually the first nobody after being stuck in between heartless and and having full control over himself
himself. Basically it was a plot device to slow down his plan for this epic finale.
The real reason why this story gets confusing is because birth by sleep is instead of being the second game to explain things they have that game comr after the second making things really difficult to understand.
Basically. Sora gave up his life at the end of the third game to ensure that his friends will never have too worry about kingdom hearts again.
So in the 4th game sora is basically dead.
@@pakoswine4560 You actually just reminded me of a theory I had for the 4th game. If the world Sora is in is basically the afterlife but it also is supposed to represent Versus XIII (renamed Verum Rex) then perhaps KH4 will explore other unfinished works of fiction. Imagine with the Disney license we may get to explore cancelled properties like Star Wars 1313. I bet there's a lot others but can't think of any at the moment.
@BenKii very possible. This world is apparently supposed to represent our world a lot more and it's possible we might see them shift from cartoon worlds to a more live action Disney kind of thing. So star wars could definitely be on there
@BenKii Also, I will say this as well, I do think they care a very great deal for the story. I genuinely think if they didn't it would of just ended with 3. Kingdom hearts isn't exactly their most money making game and if they didn't care about it they could of definitely ended the series with 3 and moved on.
But tbf as well. There is really only one story writer. Because he sets a vision Nomura is kind of like that kid on Adderall who loves story telling he's a bit all over the place but if you listen well and let him explain it fully, it's a really damn good story imo
It does seem to me like you just didn't play the side games... if you're confused about Unversed not being Heartless, to start.
Of course reading stuff up on the wikis will keep the stories confusing. KH3 is a conclusion to all of them, not just 1 and 2, so it mostly made sense to those who followed them.
I will give you the fact that the writing is not the best, when it comes to the "Power of Waking". It's definitely bad writing and confusing, but a lot of the stuff you mentioned shouldn't be a huge issue to understand if you've followed the series
That Unversed skit was an exaggeration for the common player. I vaguely remember them from Birth by Sleep. The point I was making is they all look and fight very similar but have completely different names and reasons for why they exist. Heartless, Nobodies, Unversed... They're all the same but exist just to complicate the narrative further.
story wise it was eh till the end but gameplay wise it was imo good
what is this? Dark Souls for underage?
@@justletmelistthese The DLC is. Those fights are really tough.
11:56 I always knew Donald Duck sounded like a singer from AC/DC. Now we have proof. 🤣
Imagine if they acknowledge AC/DC in the 4th game and pit Sora (keyblade guitar), Donald (vocals wand), and Goofy (drum shield) in a Rock Band match up! And they did it on the Iron Man world. That would be fun!
I mean to me I thought KH3 was a good game, but it taking YEARS to come out as well as being the major followup to the BEST Kingdom Hearts game, it just didnt live up to the hype.
No it’s not that bad. Just a bit too heavy on the Disney filler in kh3 . At least with 1 it’s balanced . Same with 2. BBS was developed to be a first time for the KH trio. Ddd was fantastic. Idc what anybody says. It’s story and gameplay was amazing. Just not kh2 quality. Kh3 took the kh2 and ddd combat and evolved it but limited the forms . Which was ok I guess. Story is good
Bro the remind dlc and data organization is the best content there series has ever had
@@Spookyghosthero True, the fights are fun to play but I was expecting more for $30. Like a full on FF world to explore when they promised to put the FF back in.
I feel the same way about the all the kingdom hearts game the story never got me invested then the main story is not difficult but after that all the super boss make me what to throw my controller like 2 and 3 it easy till the super boss
Exactly! The main story fight are a breeze and super easy all the way to the end. Then you get to the other bosses and now it's like you're playing the real game. All of a sudden, you actually have to git gud to win those fights.
Ooooooooh, you didn't play the other games!! That's why youd didn't get anything...
Look, I'm not saying there are no plot holes in the story and inconsistencies. KH is far from a perfectly written story. However, the Seasalt Trio scene IS emotional if you've played or at least seen the cutscenes for 358/2 and they have an explanation for the villains showing up again that I feel stays pretty consistent. They've made the collection as available as possible so you could catch up with everything.
But the Disney worlds were very dissapointing. Definitely needed more FF too.
I didn't finish the browser game before they shut it down but saw that movie they included in 2.8. I'm telling you no normal individual can possibly remember all this from the last 20 years.
@@BenKiior unless you are like me with my useless memory only good for remembering useless information like say for example the story for every game I ever played like the kingdom hearts series then you would be able to remember most of the story of Kingdom Hearts. That being said the time travel mechanic introduced in KH Dream Drop Distance made the story more complicated than it needed to be. Though again I can see most people playing through the mainline entries and not playing the games released on DS, GBA and 3DS. Granted some of those games were remade in the 1.5, 2.5 remix though not all.
Kh3 was fun, but the Story was such a mess and just horrible. So many useless plots and character appearances. First time playing it I gave it a 4/10. Now after DLC and patches I think the highest rating I'd give is a 6/10 for me, because they added critical mode, gave you the chance to remove the attractions (god I hated them), which made it way more enjoyable. The DLC added more Story, which was better than the whole KH3 base game.
This game could've really been a masterpiece.
well, most of the examples you singled out of not understanding the story are explained in the non-numbered games, so not understanding those moments is on you.
@@xqawas Look, not even Sora knows what's going on. He's like the casual player who picked the game up because "Ooh Disney Crossover game!" and has to try to piece the whole thing together.
You forgot to mention how many times throughout the game that Riku and Mickey keeps pointlessly recalling what happened in the past games for no reason instead of letting us actually explore the realm of darkness
@@m__two9829 Yup, this game sure does love it's exposition dialogue.
It comes across like you only played the numbered kh games oof
I played them all as they came out. The thing is I forgot some of them over the course of 20 years. Yeah I remember the Unversed from Birth by Sleep but only after going back and rereading it from a wiki.
@BenKii then really for a franchise based on lore you should of gone over the story again. I ain't going to read deathly hallows if I can't remember anything from the other 6 books.
My thanks for confirming I'd hate this series - you've saved me a ton of cash this way. :D
Before the fans tear me apart: crossovers don't jam with me at all.
I was happy there was less FF stuff in 3. Its why i prefer 3 over 2.
@@wakoblank I mean, to each their own I suppose.
@@BenKii mean, final fantasy wasn't why I bought the original game. I still have yet to play any FF game. I bought the games to explore the world's Disney had crafted in my childhood and explore the world's I did.
I hate the fact they probably blew more budget on the Elsa and Rapunzel scenes to be extra carefully rendered with the trio popping up to remind you you’re playing Kingdom Hearts.
It seems that most of your issues with the game story come not because of it's actual flaws (or at least what I feel they actually are) but from not having followed the saga story. It that regard if someone did know the story they would see that things actually make sense and don't come from no when since it is all a continuation of what's been presented and hinted for along the years wich i guess that even for the sumaries it isn't enough for someone who didn't. It that regard my main problem with the story (and for many others for what i have seen) is actually the oposite, it feels like they simplified the game story a lot wether it is to cater to the people who weren't that invested and thus making it that things are presented way to simple, that instead of solving the argument threaths that have been forming for years in the best way posible they get done in the quickest, there are lots of painfull exposition about things that were already known, there are hardly new story elements and those here are mostly hardly developed further etc.....
And while the dlc is mostly a recap of what happend i wouldn't say it is lazy, yeah it could have been better but the data fights are great and trust me that if someone is really invested in the saga they would know how much actual care and work where done into these fights, being among the best fights of the series and fixing most problems the previous enemies had being a huge step fordwars, same with the secret episode
@@Dario-uj6qo So I've played all of them and read every wiki imaginable to understand the story and my conclusion is that it is nonsense. Whenever they write themselves into a hole, the writers magically come up with a new Macguffin to get themselves out of it.
Lots of Re Mind DLC is lazy but I will say the Limit Cut fights provide a very decent challenge for those that thought the main game was too easy.
@@BenKii can I ask wich ones?
@@Dario-uj6qo What? Which games? I said all of them.
@@BenKii I mean the times in wich they come up with something knew to get out from their situation
@@Dario-uj6qo The ending for KH3 comes up for instance, which I will keep vague for spoilers. A certain character dies and is gone for good but they come up with this new time ghost hopping rule searching for pieces of their heart and now they alive again. Or another person disappears from reality for good but not really. We just transported this person to a completely different reality. You see, they can literally write anything to bring back any character from certain death. No one ever really dies in this game. I can bet you the end boss for KH3 is still alive too and will be back for the sequel.
someone didn't play all the kh games and complain on the internet that they don't understand/like the game
Here i saved you 15 min of your time.
@@eksidia5195 I did play all of them. And it still sucks.
@@BenKii you didn't even mention it
you still didn't understand the sea salt trio reunion scene in kh3 after playing all of them?
you're not paying attention and it's very sad for you
@@eksidia5195 No I understand the bond that Xion, Axel, and Roxas share. What I don't understand is the method for which they bring back Roxas. I watched it. Re-watched it and still don't get it.
@@BenKii you have no idea what you are talking about
@@PlayPodOG He has. KH3 was just bad storytelling. Thats it
I thought it was fun
The game is certainly underwhelming, but most of your criticisms aren't correct.
@@phoenixgemini42 Can you be specific? Like what did I get wrong? It is an opinion after all.
@@BenKiiyou say that that the game breaks its established rules and is contrived for the sake of progressing the plot. I won't deny that the story is nearly nonsensical, but all of the plot points from unversed, xehanorts revival, replica riku, roxas and xion's revivals, and the sleeping worlds were all pulled from the other games in the franchise. I won't argue that they are written nor incorporated well, but to say the game is contradicting itself is incorrect. Comparing xehanorts revival to Palpatine's is also invalid as an attempt was at least made. You then complain that the game is too easy on normal mode (a mode intended to be easy) but is too difficult on the dlc superbosses. That's the point. Those are the bosses that test your mastery of the game. You also say that remind is the laziest dlc ever. It's fine to dislike it, but it's hard to call if lazy when it improves combat and offers 15 new super bosses. They are technically repeats of the kh2 data battles, but approaching them with the kh3 engine makes the fights significantly different. The ability to play as non-sora characters was also highly requested before the game's launch and it delivered on that. Could it have been more? Sure, but remind is the most replayed section of the game. I certainly agree that it should have at least been free dlc, but it isn't lazy dlc. Everything else you said is pretty valid. Especially the final fantasy arguments. It just annoyed me that you said you played all the games then made this script as if you've only played the numbered ones then called the almost universally liked dlc objectively bad.
@@phoenixgemini42 Would it be fair to say that I forgot the other spin offs? Over the course of 20 years, one tends to forget details. I don't know how they expect someone to remember everything.
As for Remind DLC, I guess I expected too much. Prior to playing it, reviews said the FF was put back in so I expected to see a lot but it was just such a token amount that it felt like a slap in the face. I also didn't think the DLC would be cutscene, fight, cutscene, fight, reuse environment, fight, end. From my perspective it looks like they focused mainly on those Limitcut fights then slapped some cutscenes together. I don't think I'd have been that harsh on the DLC if it didn't cost so much. Making it come free for PC was a much smarter move.
@BenKii it's fair to forget details over 20 years, but it's not fair to criticize a game without having done the proper research. As to how they expect everyone to remember: they bundled all the games together and released them at a discounted price in preparation for 3s releases on both epic games and steam.
@@phoenixgemini42 Fair enough. While I concede someone who is dedicated to the series could decipher the story, the casual player is going to be lost especially if all they were in it for was just the Disney crossover stuff. I'll see about doing more thorough research for the eventual KH4 video.
Nah not really
@@youngnigar525 Gameplay wise, no. Thought it was fun. Story however, not so much.