Bilinda Butcher (My Bloody Valentine) | Have You Seen Her - Episode 2
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2021
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From My Bloody Valentine to collaborating with The Jesus & Mary Chain, Bilinda Butcher is one of the most prolific artists in shoegaze.
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For those pointing out areas where I flubbed on the research: I hear you. I’ve been hearing you for over a year since this video was posted. But a word of advice (to some, not all of you; most corrections I get are very constructive and extremely helpful): if you really want creators to take your criticism in good faith, using an inflammatory tone will not get you anywhere. Opening your comment section dissertations with “I can’t STAND such sub-par/shoddy research” is the most unhelpful way you could have chosen to go about it-not only is it bad optics, but it will only turn creators off from listening to what you have to say, ruining any chance of them hearing you out at all. So before you speak, clarify your intention first: is your intention to help the creator improve their work? Or is it to satisfy your ego by flexing your superior knowledge muscles as hard as you possibly can? You decide. Either way it’s more engagement for me 🤷🏻♀️
Very well said!
Unfortunately in the world we live in there are individuals who thrive upon criticizing or mocking others. Everyone, with any sense of self-preservation, needs to develop strategies for dealing with, and ultimately overcoming, the negativity that these psychic vampires perpetuate. Thank you for your video.
Notteeengham Pallaze
Belinda has one of the loveliest voices I’ve heard. Her voice is very hypnotic to me, much like the ladies in LUSH and also of course the Cocteau twins. Thank you for all of the amazing music over the years
Her voice is a major part in way I love the band so much
@@bloandon that’s a big reason why I love the bands RIDE and LUSH so much too. Their vocal harmonies are heavenly
Bilinda** ❤️
Only one "lady" in the Cocteau Twins... one amazing, magical, ultra-magnificent lady.
MBV often buried Bilinda's lovely vocals under their layers, so hard to always hear how nice a voice; Slowdive, too, had amazing vocals from Rachel Goswell, also often under lots of (great) sound.
All these great bands of then (and again now) with the luxury of too much good music and great singers getting lost in it.
@@jlwilder8436 I know. I never said there wasn’t but thank you for the unnecessary explanation
I feel fortunate that her and Kevin even met honestly
MBV has always been about Bilinda for me - she carrys away my sadness and fears - wraps me in a warm blanket and whispers lovingly into my brain
I made a t-shirt that said "Belinda butcher is my girlfriend "
Spell your girlfriends name properly, for a start.
@@edwardkenney1522 chill out it was probably a typo
@@edwardkenney1522
Yes even an imaginary girlfriends name needs to be spelled right and not wrong.
'Isn't Anything' is one of my favorite albums. Back in my gigging days when we traveled on the bus, I found this album the easiest music to sleep by, which I always thought was crazy because it is so noisy. I took the best sleep! Bilinda's voice is a big reason for this.
she is beatiful
Just one correction: Bilinda's actual first appearance was in Strawberry Wine and Ecstasy in 1987, before releasing Isn't Anything in 1988. Nevertheless, another great video on a great shoegaze icon.
I’m aware. Those were EPs, though. Pretty sure I was only referring to full-length albums. If that didn’t come across I’ll definitely work on improving semantics in future vids, lol. Thanks for watching ♡
@@AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents they were LPs in the UK. Certain of that
@@AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents The confusion is that, back in the day, both EPs & LPs were qualifiers for the noun "album", such as the extended-play album and the long-playing album. According to this outdated colloquialism, the terms records and albums were interchangeable. When we wanted an EP (if the CD and the cassette-tape weren't available), we had to "buy the album". In the digital-age, these designations no longer apply.
Bilinda is a siren goddess
Bilinda's voice is such an exquisite instrument in its own right just as dreamy, angelic and ethereal as Kevin's guitar treatments. I've always loved the way her voice just weaves in and out of the mix intoning longing lysergic lullabies. Sadly (or perhaps not) Loveless couldn't be bettered by anyone, not even by MBV themselves. Many kudos for the excellent video of one of my favorite vocalists.
I was never big into the whole 'shoegaze' thing I was far more of a goth (and still am to the core) but I really liked some stuff and loved a bit of MBV, Bilinda was always this sort of beautiful, mysterious and talented presence that I wanted to see more of but that was before we had the internet and everything like today and I never saw them live so she remained a mystery but a quite lovely one that I kinda admired.
Bilinda's vocals are like a bloody beautiful and ethereal flower in the garden! 3:31 Her uhs backing vocals are deadly precious for me. Ps: Very inspirational video. I love it! Ps2: you have a beautiful voice and your pronunciation is very clear. It flows naturally with the video and also enriches it.
I love her voice and her songs are my favorite MBV songs.
I danced at Laban a few years after Bilinda. The picture here is actually Greenwich Naval College which houses the Trinity music part of Trinity Laban. When Bilinda was at the Laban in the 80's, it was in a small facility in New Cross. It was still one of the leading dance school's in London but nothing like the state of the art building in which Laban Dance is situated now. When I see Bilinda dancing in THKW, I always think of her as Laban trained, even tho she had to quit! Laban's loss was MBV's gain.
Butcher has so much talent, and made me take a second look at shoegaze.
I can't even start explaining how much I love this woman - my all time favorite musician, the most incredible, beautiful and talented woman on Earth
Thank you for this. For my money, Bilinda Butcher was the reason for MBV.
Great video !! Theres even a band called The Bilinda Butchers ! Cheers from a south american Shoegaze fan !!
Derbee-shyer hahaha! So funny when people try and pronounce British place names. It’s actually pronounced Darby-sher
Hahahaha, my painfully American tongue is very sorry! 😅
All one big family we all speak English just different regions
Ha ha almost as funny when Anglosaxons try to pronounce ANY foreign language.
but the real embarrassment was how she pronounced Golden Valley. So funny indeed.
It's not too far from Lie-cester-shyer
Well said and done, Ma'am. And yes, far beyond time this brilliant woman receives her flowers.
Really enjoyed this take on one of my heros. Thanks for that. and All the Best!
When I first bought Loveless and put it on the turntable I thought it was warped! Didn’t realise that was the legendary Shields sound!🤦🏻♂️😆😆🤘
I love all the bands you just mentioned!!
Omg this is JUST what I’ve been waiting for 🥰 great video!! Keep it up please (:
She would be such a good fairy for Halloween.
This is an awesome vid about one of the most underrated vocalists ever! Great Job
That's a really good video about the absolute icon represented by Bilinda Butcher, it's unbelievable how much charming is she and her art, i think that mbv should be regarded as top 10 artists in contemporary music; thank you so much for all the effort you put in this video!
Bilinda is certainly amazing, as much as Kevin is hailed as a genius, he's smartly surrounded himself with excellent collaborators. Debbie especially misses a lot of praise as well, She's a wonderful bassist and if you see them live Debbie seems like the only one who's ever really giving any energy in her performance, she and Colm rock out hard, but Debbie is basically the only one you see moving around stage while Bilinda and Kevin are statues. Any how, flowers to Bilinda for sure, MBV is definitely in my top 5 and No More Sorry is absolutely haunting in some kind of cathartic way that i find hypnotizing. I feel she is way too often overlooked. It's very easy to point out Kim Deal or Kim Gordon and hold them up for being groundbreaking because they have big personalities that are aspirational, but so easy to overlook Bilinda especially because she's so private. But it takes all types, and the world would have missed something amazing if she hadn't put herself out there for MBV. We don't know much about her private life, but do we need to know that to know she's phenomenal? Not at all. *side note: definitely gotta check out snail mail now!
I love Debbie back in the background rocking out with the drummer.
Debbie's bass tones on the "You Made Me Realise" EP are unbeatable.
I feel the same way about “No More Sorry.” That song is so eerie and dark and the droning and continuous sound of it is so hard-hitting when the cacophony of ethereal sounds ceases.
Honestly, Colm is to rock drummers what Kevin is to rock guitarists. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
@@user-ck9lm6xi1o Fuckin oath. Even in his 50s he's still absolutely insane on the drums.
London based, Dublin born.
een crushing on her for a LONG time.
Thanks for tears in my eyes!
Shes such an enigmatic figure. Shields talks good amount, as humble as he is. You NEVER hear from Billinda. I know all about Kevins glide strumming. I wanna know what she was doing guitar wise
Unfortunately, I can’t say I’ve heard any of her work outside of my bloody Valentine, but I’m definitely interested. Such a great voice & talent.
Thank you for this
thank you for this
Absolutely brilliant thank you
loved this so much! the real my bloddy as we know could only be what it is by the mix of her soft voice with the heavy guitars. its their real identity!
She was definitely a trail blazer for a bunch of indie bands that have emerged onto the scene in recent years. That enigmatic sultry and breathy vocal delivery blending in with a soundtrack rife with a cacophony pitch alterations and what not. I've been listening to Draag out of California lately and there's a clip of a live recording on YT (I'm In Your Chain) where you can hear a strong undercurrent of the My Bloody Valentine sound.
Great video. Subscribed. Loveless has to be one of the greatest albums of all time.
grear video! all the love for Bilinda, Debby and Colm as well
great!
I can’t say I agree with your conclusion that Butcher’s vocals are the backbone of MBV’s music.
I am a huge fan of My Bloody Valentine, & have been since the beginning.
But I see the GUITAR effects + the sweet vocal MELODIES as the backbone.
The quality of both Kevin and Bilinda’s vocals is the glue that binds the guitar effects to the melody, & elevates each song that much more.
In fact, I think Kevin’s and Belinda’s vocals are interchangeable. They both are breathy, slightly sleepy, and are imperfect but blend beautifully with the guitar and prodding bass, and make each song magical.
Indispensable, but still, I think their vocals are the additions to the backbone that really makes MBV’s music ethereal.
They are interchangeable. On one song at least on Loveless is actually Kevin changing the tape speed and not in fact Bilinda as people think. Its a very layered up album which has their voices and pitch-shifted effects blended together at times. That includes Kevin gender-bending his singing. It also includes only him on guitar, and only him on bass, and re-sampled drums by him (although colm played the source beats) so i would say its mostly kevin.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful music. I am just getting into this and am knocked out.
Great video. Shields gets most of the attention and MBV has been his baby from day one obviously, but it's not until Butcher joined that the band really gelled and came into their own. Butcher deserves a lot more credit, and hopefully this video will help to rectify that.
Thanks for the informative video. I was in my early 20's when the whole Shoegaze thing came about. Still a fan of MBV and other bands in this genre to this day. Would we even have "post-rock" as a genre if Shoegaze wasn't a common music ancestor?
I love what Bilinda brought to their sound. I couldn't image MBV being a success without her!
While Kevin Shields gets a lot of credit for his guitar wizardry on Loveless, I find it interesting that they actually started developing their more recognizable sound only after Bilinda Butcher got involved. They could have just been a gothic rockabilly band that would eventually be forgotten by everyone except the most dedicated goth circles. I wouldn't be surprised if she also had a role in shaping the guitar's sound as well, at least to some degree. The difference between 1987's Ecstasy and everything that came before it is massive!
Great video that recognises Bilindas talent, well done!
I wish she'd speak more in interviews but I guess that shyness is part of her charm
So true, flowers given! :)
No one sounded like them.. comparison yes.. but stand alone.. good video
She sang two song on Collapsed Lung's album. My two favorite on the album.
I totally would enjoy if you'd stretch this out to a one hour and a half documentary. Great work!
She’s my favorite
Loveless, the only album that are truly about love. All other albums talk about love, loveless makes you actually feel what love is all about. Thanks, Bilinda. Completely agree with you, girl. Loveless doesn't exist without her and they never talk about it. Kevin gets all the gold medals.
My favourite two tracks on Loveless have always been the second and last ones, although i love the whole record, and it is obviously all brilliant.
Wonderful
Bilinda is great.
Love this woman, an integral part of MBV
Belinda is AWESOME! Right up there with Joni Mitchell and Karen Carpenter IMHO. :)
My hero
Good vid :)
Listening to MBV is like taking drugs. It can be transcendental. & Bilinda's voice is big part of that.
btw, 1:18 Derbyshire is pronounced "dar be shu".
Haha, I’m definitely aware now. I should really do less reading and more listening/watching so I can get these English pronunciations right
@@AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents I wouldn’t beat yourself up about it. I lived in Derby for a couple of years. They used to mock how I spoke(I’m from Manchester)
''We felt like we were on the strongest drug in the world. That’s when we realized, ‘There’s something in this. What would happen if other people got to feel this, too?’” Kevin after a sound a heavy sound experiment with colm
If you haven't discovered them,,,,you don't know,,,,
I've had a crush on Bilinda since the late 80's, her voice goes right into my heart.
:=8)
Bilinda along with Liz Fraser and Sarah Peacock are goddesses of dream vocals.
cant agree more
I love lose my breath
I have a god damn crush on belinda butcher
Hi just a quick correction!
The shoe-gaze scene didn’t start in London! Actually it’s more from the whole Thames valley area. Reading, Abingdon and the like.
Interesting. I was more drawing from the template of bands like Lush, who did originate in London, but I guess it depends on what time you are referring to. I know that later groups like Ride, Chapterhouse, and Slowdive originated in the Thames Valley, so in the context of a hotspot for a burgeoning scene you’re definitely correct
@@AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents I always think for shoegaze as from the valley but thats probably just because I went to school with a lot of the bands
On community radio stations in Melbourne, Australia in early 1990 it was known as "the Thames Valley sound" before the term Shoegaze took hold.
yeh, like 4 of them were from that large area, and the rest were from some other large area around the UK and Ireland and America. But yes there were a collection of bands from different towns across the stretch of this 200+ mile long river. except when they weren't.
there are some flubs like you said. But I feel it is a common mistake that most people think Isn't any thing is their debut album. This is your bloody Valentine is but it's like a whole other band and that's what I really loved about them is their first album is not good, it's tame . always gave me faith that your first album could be bad and the next one total genius . I also didn't realize Bilinda wasn't there during the beginning so that is also interesting. your vid helped point that out to me.
She is beautiful.
An interesting point for sure, as for me it is always nice to appreciate that the vocal are there, but I recognize that mbv is not taking focus over vocals and it doesn't need.
(Anyways, it could be nice to get info about her playing too, as for now I notice I know nothing of what she did exactly and is bringing serious) curiosity)
Bilinda is the best
She is
Belinda was such a great presence! I especially loved her in My Bloody Valentine’s EPs before Loveless. The song You Made Me Realize, with its noisy, harsh, crunchy, and dissonant guitar combined with the dreamy soft but straining vocals…gawd….it actually sounds bloody! Like someone gutting themselves and spilling their entrails on the floor…well, that’s a lovely image lmao
while i get the sentiment that maybe she doesnt get enough credit, i dont think anyone whos got any familiarity with them or their influence has ever not fallen in love with her contribution. mbv would be nothing without those ooooos and stoic, listless vocals, and stereolab/lush (among so many others) wouldnt be around as they are without bilinda's work with mbv. shit theres even a band named after her. good video tho.
FYI- The group was not Dublin-based. It was primarily London-based.
Truuue
damn...singing at 7am?? I 'm out 😴😴
Just an fyi my bloody valentine invented shoegaze the first shoegaze thing they did was in 87 way before anyone, loveless wasn’t their first shoegaze material
I don’t recall ever saying that Loveless was their first shoegaze material. They reinvented the pedal-heavy playing that created shoegaze and were definitely the band who put it on the map, but they were not the first band to use that sort of sound
spacemen 3 were doing crazy pedal effects mixed with noise for years before mbv, you can see colm (their drummer) in the music video for only shallow wearing a spacemen 3 shirt as well
according to the one of the dreampop or shoegaze documentaries , the Cocteau twins head over heels record (from 1983) had some shoegaze on it, n I can hear it. It was a little spark
@@thebrilliantdan1533 yep. Esp. the song Musette and Drums
@@cvijetics yup , that’s the one ☝🏾
Damn! thought you were gonna play some of their music.?!?
Here's the real question: Is Drew Barrymore the narrator or is it Wynona Ryder?
Yes.
Do KatieJane next!
At :52, where is that footage from?!
I actually retrieved it from the Pitchfork Slowdive documentary. I’m not sure what the original source is though
@@AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents it’s incredibly good footage for the time!
Is there an Episode 1?
5:56 Lindy who???
It’s pronounced darbyshire lol nice video
Feed Me With Your Kiss is pretty aggressive tho, just sayin’
balinda is forever my celeberty crush, full on told my girlfriend that if I could go back in time and be with balinda butcher I would leave her
Who said chivalry is dead?
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Turn on caption please
Will do. As soon as I get a chance to sit down. Lol
Why does everyone speak like Ian Svenonious now?
MBV aren't really "shoegaze". They're a world of their own, the best indie pop group ever!
Shoegaze is the wave of bands that tried to copy them and all failed in interesting and wonderful ways! Ride, Slowdive, Chapterhouse, Pale Saints, Boo Radleys, Lush etc. were all formed by people blown away by what MBV did in 1988. They never quite captured the amalgam, the alchemic majesty of MBV. From 1988 to 1991 Kevin Shields re-invented rock guitar. But without Bilinda's vocals, MBV would never have had that ethereal dimension - like other posters have said, every member brings something incredible to the table, and seeing them live is about the best experience this planet has to offer!
Yes, MBV really were "shoegaze". I lived through the era. And those other bands didn't "fail" at anything, they were all great in their own ways.
Just enjoy the music without making grand pronouncements.
Lol, you're funny because you're wrong.
pronounced Darbeeshu
AWESOME
Well, no. Belinda didn't do a single thing on Loveless but sing, and there was massive overdubbing/layering of their vocals on that record. Listen to the tracks Kevin did for Lost in Translation and you'll see how irrelevant she was to the actual music. Image-wise she was perfect, but musically not in any way important the MBV's sound. And at that time, 91-93, there was no such thing as Shoegaze. That term didn't become popularized until a good 20 years later. It was all folded into a very diverse indie music scene. And Kevin didn't "provide the blueprint"for every shoegaze band that followed", firstly because nothing followed until a reemergence of "shoegaze" around 2005, and secondly because there were two branches of shoegaze, dry and wet. 99% of shoegaze bands were wet, drenched in reverb and delay, easy fx to put together. Kevin's sound was much more complicated, used s1000 sampling, fuzz and reverse reverb algorithms, which is more tangible than spacial. Virtually no one went down that path successfully, and those that did sounded like MBV rip-off bands. So the point is two-fold. Kevin WAS MBV, and Belinda was just along for the ride. And you had to be there.