2024 Canyon Lux Trail CFR Review | A Smoother & More Cohesive XC Bike With In-Frame Storage
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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The Canyon Lux Trail has been overhauled for 2024 with an all-new carbon frame that features more travel, revised suspension kinematics and, in a first for a Canyon mountain bike, internal storage. To see what all of those changes bring to the riding experience, we got our hands on the 2024 Canyon Lux Trail to put to the test!
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Canyon Lux Trail Video Review Contents
0:00 - Canyon Lux Trail Overview
1:07 - The Competition
1:18 - CF & CFR Carbon Frames
1:32 - Suspension Travel
2:07 - Internal Storage
2:47 - Canyon Lux Trail Sizing & Geometry
3:22 - Canyon Lux Trail Price & Specs
3:59 - Canyon Lux Trail Weight
4:14 - Canyon Lux Trail vs Lux World Cup
4:38 - Strengths
6:39 - Downsides
8:01 - Component Highs & Lows
9:39 - Flow's Verdict
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One of the best looking bikes ever.
great review!!! i liked the 3rd person shots and the trails... looks great!
Thanks very much mate! Appreciate you checking out the review and glad you enjoyed the footage - it was a load of fun to shoot! [Wil]
I have the previous version of the Lux which got a bit of a bashing from the reviewers, mainly around the rear suspension, which it turned out was easy to fix with carefully selected volume spacers and pressures. I have done about 3000km on mine and I am very pleased with it and use it as my summer bike where longer cross country rides are the norm. Because my rides typically move from blacktop to trail several times an hour I really love the double lock-out and am in the process of trying to add it to my new 2023 Neuron which I use in the winter. The new Lux looks great and It looks like it and the Neuron now have very similar geometry which is no bad thing as the Neuron is a very comfortable and predictable ride. I am less sure about the storage compartment and tool carrier as the new Lux appears to be generally about 300-500g heavier than the earlier version.
Godamn, it’s a straight up cablepalooza on the front!
Great video. I would like to know which bike has better pedal efficiency, scott spark 900 (in tranction mode) vs this new Canyon Lux Trail.
Amazing bike lovet
This is beginning to make sense.
Very nice review ! Pls advice ..whats the small bumps sensitivity of this bike ?.... I mean like dirt road or even broken aspfalt road ? I am not a racer - want to buy this bike for mixed terrain long (4-8 hours) sporty pace rides. Part on asphalt , part on gravel roads part on dirt rocky , rooty forrest roads. Currently have Trekprocaliber 9.9 HT and would like to have something with similar super efficiency but more comfortable on rougher part of the trip. I really like this bike look ,components etc. lock, just not sure about that suspension part .. as I have no experince in this field. As good part pf the road is allways on asphalt - gravel roads I usually put 40 psi into 2.2 bontrager XR1 tires../ So I need susension to do the job.
Hi and thank you for the video. According Canyon the Lux Trail the permitted systemweight (driver & Luggage) is 120Kg. So for me with 100Kg it‘s ok. But Brakedisk are to small! 160mm back and 180mm front. Unfortunately Canyon gave me a standard answer whether it is ok to change to bigger disk. „No release for Changing the configuration“
Very Sad😢
XC amateur racer here: I miss the 175 dropper on my enduro bike, but I completely agree with you: shorter dropper is easier for XC. I went the shortest route, 50mm Fox SL, and it is much easier energy-wise. For intended purposes 50-75mm is enough. Since I ride SRAM I laugh at the cables nest at the front. Shimano, please catch up, don't let SRAM rule single-handedly and charge us insane amounts :(
Good to see that Canyon have finally cut about 30mm of pointless seat tube off most of their sizes, enabling the use of decent droppers mixed with decent reach numbers. Took them long enough.
I think I'm looking at one of these or a SC Blur TR. The new Lux won't be available here in the US until March, in version I want.
We've also reviewed the Cervelo ZFS-5, which is very similar to the Santa Cruz Blur. Here it is if you fancy checking it out; flowmountainbike.com/tests/cervelo-zfs-5-review/
And if you've got any specific questions about the Lux Trail vs Santa Cruz/Cervelo, let me know!
[Wil]
Great review as usual! How would you compare it to the new Neuron in terms of pedal efficiency and suitability for longer rides or even an occasional marathon/stage race with an XC set of tyres on neuron? Is there going to be a big difference?
On paper the Lux trail CF models are actually only about 700g lighter compared to the Neuron CF models with comparable part specification, even less with the same tyre combo, while Neuron is also about 20% cheaper...
Thanks mate, and great question about comparing the Lux Trail with the Neuron!
They're both awesome pedalling bikes for sure. That seems to be something that Canyon puts a strong focus on, along with low weight and high frame stiffness.
In direct comparison, the Lux Trail is more responsive in general - if you're really gassing it on the pedals out of the saddle, it feels firmer and sharper than the Neuron. The handling is also more direct. I found it to be a really quick and agile bike on XC singletrack, so although it isn't a huge amount lighter than the Neuron, it feels more lively and spirited, and that tends to make me push harder. It feels more like an XC race bike in that regard, and the riding position backs that up.
The Neuron offers a more upright riding position and a chilled-out demeanour that will be appreciated on longer rides. Obviously the extra travel also comes in handy on rougher terrain. If you're not a serious racer and you tend to enjoy more technical trails with steeper descents, then it'll likely be the better option. It's still very efficient, and the difference with the Lux Trail isn't huge if you're pedalling in the saddle. A lighter set of tyres would certainly be a useful addition if you were going to do the odd marathon race.
Overall, I'd say the difference between the two is less about overall weight and efficiency, and more about the handling and riding position - that's really what separates the character between them.
I'm not sure if that really helps answer your question, so just let me know if you've got any others!
[Wil]
Thanks for the great answer! I think you can put it right in your reviews of both the Lux Trail and the Neuron. :)@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips
For bike pack multi day racing, what would you end up going for - new Lux Trail or the "old" Lux World Cup - as compared in your written review? Steve, Scotland.
Good question Steve!
I think it would depend on the terrain you'd be riding. If you were after a pure race bike with an emphasis on efficiency, the Lux World Cup is an awesome bit of kit. It can get out of its depth on really rough terrain, but if you're bike-packing then you might not be hitting up that kind of riding anyway.
The Lux Trail would offer more comfort if that's a priority. The suspension is smoother and the riding position is slightly more relaxed too. It offers more stability on the descents, and I found it gives you a much wider margin for error when messing around on the trail.
At the risk of confusing things further, it is possible to fit a bigger 110mm fork on the Lux World Cup. I did that on our test bike, and it's been a load of fun - you end up with a bike that splits the difference with the Lux Trail.
You can get a look at that bike here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/2024-rockshox-sid-sidluxe-ultimate-review/
Not sure if that helps but just shout out if you've got any more questions Steve!
[Wil]
Nice bike!
I have two questions:
1. Which Wahoo mount are you using in the video? The info on Canyon‘s website are a bit misleading.
2. How would you compare it to the Orbea Oiz in terms of ride feeling?
That's a K-Edge adjustable stem mount for the Wahoo GPS. Works really well, and I like that I can tweak the angle as needed for different cockpits, compared to the fixed version of the same mount.
Both the Lux Trail and the Oiz are great XC bikes, though I found the Oiz to be a little racier with its slightly snappier pedalling performance and more aggressive riding position. It's a better climber for sure, whereas the Lux Trail feels a bit more sure-footed on high speed descents.
It's worth noting that the Oiz OMX frame is also a fair bit lighter, so you've got the ability to build up a pretty lightweight race bike. We've reviewed the latest Oiz, check out the video here if you like: ruclips.net/video/CyAndzcddUo/видео.html
Hope that helps, though just sing out if you've got any other questions mate!
[Wil]
The 2016 Scott Genius is this bike and more. The same geo and better kinematics on the Scott however, with a tunable shock and fork so you can run 120, or go 140/130 if the trail takes a turn. This bike is a full circle jerk with an upper shock mount that looks ripe for crack and snap! See ya!
Thank for the review! Happy to hear it's an improvement from last years version. If pedaling/climbing performance on any kind of terrain (asphalt to technical trail climbs) would be the top priority, what would you choose between the Lux Trail, Oiz, or Specialized Epic Evo?
My pleasure mate!
I think the Oiz and Lux Trail are on-par when it comes to outright pedal efficiency. On steeper gradients the Oiz takes the lead with its middle suspension setting firming up the shock but leaving the fork open so it can sag and provide better climbing geometry.
If the terrain is quite rocky and techy however, the Epic EVO offers more grip and comfort.
Confusing things, Specialized just introduced a new Epic and Epic EVO: ruclips.net/video/9cSm9ZxqRzs/видео.html
The new Epic is an absolute ripper - fantastic geometry and suspension performance with a 3-position system and custom-tuned dampers.
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips Isn't Canyon pedal (middle) suspension mode similar to Orbea's middle setting? Or is Orbea's setting just more efficient? I had no idea about the new Epic Evo, will check it out :) Thanks !
From what I recall, the middle suspension mode is similar for the shock on the Canyon and Orbea. However, the fork is different. On the Orbea, the fork remains fully open even in the middle suspension mode. This allows it to remain active to absorb bumps, but also sag into its travel, which is beneficial from a dynamic geometry perspective.
Hope that helps explain!
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips Oh, I get it now, interesting difference.
Thanks for your replies, I really appreciate it :)
LIKE my old YETI 10 years ago
suspension design
Will be amazing a review Oiz -Vs Luc trail
For sure mate! Anything you'd like to know specifically about the Oiz vs Lux Trail? I've spent a lot of time on both bikes, so hit me up if you've got any questions about either! [Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips great! I will recive in a few months a Oiz🤓 so i read not very grippy-good traction on technical or steep loose climbs, not sure if can do something with the settings of the shock to improve it, and better fully ipen mode or semilock?
Also usually do a lot of technical singletracks with rocky terrain on the descend, so some Sag recomendation for my 75k front and rear to use all the 120mm and not bottom out frequently on drops or hits will be great.
Finally i have doubts about tires choice for tech XCM in the 700g range (so not maxxis rekon race😭) Fastrack f/r, Schalbe racings, Tufo xc11-12, ...
Cheers and will wait the bike to bike review
Nice one mate, no doubt you'll enjoy the Oiz!
I thoroughly enjoyed testing that bike, and spent a good amount of time getting the suspension setup dialled in. Lots of info regarding sag and pressures in our review here if you'd like to check it out; flowmountainbike.com/tests/orbea-oiz-review-2023/
The Oiz is a great climbing bike, and I found it offered good traction in the Open mode for riding rockier terrain. The shock uses a Medium compression tune, so it's pretty stable even in the Open mode. I think if you were after a plusher ride quality, you could potentially look at having the shock re-valved with a light compression tune. But I would ride it first and see how you go.
As for the tyres, I had great experience with the Rekon Race tyres and with a CushCore XC insert in the rear wheel. I started using CushCore about two years ago in XC bikes, and I will no longer ride without it! Almost zero punctures, more grip and comfort, and the added protection for lightweight XC rims is really good. I have done a separate review on the inserts here: flowmountainbike.com/fresh-produce/review-cushcore-xc-tubeless-inserts/
The alternative would be to get heavier duty tyre casings, but personally I find that a thicker/stiffer casing tends to sacrifice compliance and grip. With the Maxxis EXO casing and a CushCore insert, the tyre is still nice and supple, providing good comfort and vibration damping qualities.
Hope that helps mate, but just shout out if you have any more questions!
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips thanks a lot, really apreciate the answer! I will read the full article☑️☑️
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips thanks Wil, and about Fizik Ferox shoes, any feedback about size? I usually use 44 in shimano.
Thanks
It's hard choose between this and a 2022 trek top fuel (the one with the Sid fork on it.
I agree With you, i look for these 2 bikes and hesitate like you. I think trek top fuel is à bit more trail oriented.
Flow mountain bike, Can you give a comparison beetween this canyon lux trail and the scott spark RC 2020 ? I remember you have try this scott. Thank you very much !! I own this scott and i'm looking for a bike a little more comfortable.
Good question mate!
I'd say the Spark RC and the Lux Trail are pretty similar bikes in terms of suspension travel and performance. Both are quite plush and active in the Open mode, though the Lux Trail is a better pedalling bike with less need for toggling the remote all the time.
Obviously the Lux Trail has in-frame storage and it also uses a conventional rear shock that is a lot easier to access compared to the Spark.
That aside, is there anything specific you'd like to know about the differences between the two bikes?
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips thank for thé answer. I want my New bike more comfortable on longue Day of ride. I find my spark spark rc too stiff after around 40km. Since 2 years tried to find good setup suspensions but never had an excellent result. And second thing, i'm 170 cm and always between 2 sizes With lot of manufacturers. This S size canyon lux trail look to fit perfectly for my size. Do you think the 120mm travel of the canyon Will bring me What im looking for vs the precendent spark rc 2020 ?
If we're talking plush suspension performance, then I'd say the Spark is one of the best XC bikes out there in that regard. I've found the Descend mode to be really effective, especially on the Spark 900 series that use the higher volume Nude 5T shock.
The Lux Trail is also very smooth in its suspension, though it is still more of an XC-leaning bike, so the carbon frame is quite stiff and responsive. On rockier trails there is a bit more feedback through both the chassis and the drivetrain. If you're having comfort issues with the Spark RC, then I'm not sure the experience is going to be all that different on the Lux Trail.
Compared to those two bikes, I've found the Cervelo ZFS-5 to be more comfortable. I've been testing the 120/115mm travel version, and it's noticeably more compliant and feels more like a trail bike while still being incredibly lightweight. If you're interested, check out the review; flowmountainbike.com/tests/cervelo-zfs-5-review/
I would also say that the latest Pivot Mach 4 SL is one of the more capable and comfortable XC bikes I've tested, again in its longer travel format; flowmountainbike.com/tests/2023-pivot-mach-4-sl-review/
One question I should ask; are you doing a lot of XC racing?
If not, then it may be worth looking for a bike with a touch more travel and a more relaxed riding position. You could consider something like a Santa Cruz Tallboy or a Trek Top Fuel - those bikes step up the versatility and capability, so while they are heavier, they'll likely provide you with the comfort and grip you may be after.
Hope that helps mate!
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips thank you for the answer ! I really like your job on YT about bikes review, continue like That...Some bikes you mentionned are on my wishlist. You identify what i m looking for the next bike. Anthony from France !!
Thanks for such a thorough review. I'm trying to settle on size. At 179cm, would you go with M or L?
No worries mate, glad you enjoyed the review!
At your height of 179cm, Canyon recommends a Medium. However, it would be worth taking a closer look at the geo chart and considering the reach, stack and effective top tube length of both the Medium and Large sizes, and comparing that to your current bike and any other similar bikes you've ridden.
The reach on the Lux Trail is quite long, so riders on the cusp may be better off downsizing than upsizing. It will depend on what you want out of the bike though - a longer bike will get you more stability and a calmer ride quality overall, while a shorter bike will offer more agility. The riding position will also change, with the Medium providing a lower and racier setup, and the Large providing a taller front end.
As mentioned in the review, I wouldn't have minded if the reach was a bit shorter to make the bike a little more playful, as I generally prefer XC bikes around the 440-450mm reach mark.
Hope that helps!
[Wil]
I'm 8 ft.4 and I ride a M.
As usual, awesome review!
At 177cm, what do you think about "downsizing" to an S with a bit longer stem cockpit as a racing XC bike for XCM multistage races? I could imagine it would be more capable on trails than the Oiz, and even downsizing I find the geo very similar to an M in a Scott Spark or other brands.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback on the review!
You're taller than me (177 vs 175cm), so I reckon you'd find the Medium to be a good fit.
If you did downsize to a Small, it'd be worth making sure there was enough seatpost extension to suit your saddle height. And fitting a longer stem would certainly be an option, though bear in mind that the steering may get a bit sluggish when pairing a long stem with a slack head angle.
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips Will, you mean that with 175cm you are riding S size? I am 172cm and I am not sure what size to choose. Thanks for reply
@@jaroslavruszo he said the test bike they got is size M so I guess he is riding that.
I bought size S finally. Its fit perfectly.
@@jaroslavruszo I am also about 172 cm and I´ve been comparing sizes S and M. I also contacted the Canyon customer service and they recommended the size S. Without testing the bike I still fear that the driving position is too cramped for my liking. Glad to hear that the size S fits for you.
Flow Mountain Bike certainly do not like remote lockouts lol. Nice bike, ticks most of the boxes for me.
I think they’re pointless unless your a pro racer
Perhaps you do not ride to the trails but take a van/car. I use a few back tarmac roads and gravel to get to my local trails so a lock out for me is really useful..in fact a must have.@@rottieshepcalibre9156
@@rottieshepcalibre9156I’m not even an amateur racer but I like it. I enjoy being able to hammer on the pedals and feel the efficiency of a firmer platform and it gives the manufacturer scope to go a bit more supple and descent-focussed with the ‘open’ mode. SRAM’s version is a lot nicer to use and look at than Fox’s though that’s for sure.
I understand why many don’t want or need them but I think it’s appropriate for the kind of consumer this bike will attract.
@@Mockle07performance wise, it does very little
@@Jasongristick that very much depends on so many factors. I’ve seen plenty of tests that ‘prove’ it does and plenty that ’proves’ the opposite.
If it didn’t make a performance difference XC racers wouldn’t use them, they’d save the weight/complexity.
I do a fair bit of flatter gravel trails for training and ultimately, locked out just feels better even IF the performance improvement is only small.
Shoot, was debating between a Spur and an Izzo… now there’s this thing. Help!
That's an interesting conundrum! I would put the Lux Trail on the racier side of the spectrum, being closer to the Orbea Oiz, Scott Spark, Cervelo ZFS-5 and Santa Cruz Blur TR. While the suspension is improved on the new version, overall it still has a tight and efficient feel to it that makes it more of an XC-oriented bike.
We're yet to test a Spur or an Izzo, but I believe they're plusher and more trail-oriented bikes that are closer to the Giant Trance 29, Santa Cruz Tallboy and Trek Top Fuel.
Sorry I can't provide any more detailed ride feedback on those two bikes - hopefully Transition and YT can get us some test bikes in the near future!
[WIl]
Canyon mountain bikes are always close but not quite good enough to by. Road and gravel look good though.
SYDNEY needs long XC loops
Hallo wie groß sind sie? und wie groß ist ihre inen Bein Länge ? Welche Rahm Größe fahren sie in diesem vidio. Vielen Dank im voraus. Ist wirklich ein schickes Rad
Im 'Orbea Oiz 2021' Review-Video sagt er, dass er 175cm groß ist und wie hier ein Medium fährt.
@@agmk0305 Vielen Dank
Your confirmed weight is 11.28kg setup tubeless, while the claimed weight is 11,25kg.
I allways thought that Canyon bikes came with tubes, and that one could loose maybe 300g of the claimed weight by going tubeless. It doesn't seem so in this case. Are there any other differences from the stock bike? Pedals, computer, something in the frame storage?
No changes from the stock bike - we always weigh our test bikes without pedals and with all accessories removed so it's as consistent as possible between brands.
Going tubeless will remove some weight from the bike, but it will depend on a couple of factors. For a start, some Canyon bikes come fitted with Tubolito TPU tubes, which are incredibly lightweight and even lighter than a tubeless setup. Also, it depends how much sealant you put inside each tyre. We always use 120ml for each tyre, which is pretty generous.
With the Lux World Cup for example, that bike was lighter with the Tubolito inner tubes than it was setup tubeless.
The last thing regarding claimed weights; there is of course always some variance in production, not just with Canyon's own frames but also with the parts that are fitted to it. Tyres are good examples of a part that can often vary in weight by quite a bit.
Hope that helps explain!
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips, Thanks for clarifying!
would totally buy if there's no cable tourism
Still press fit BB?
Nope, the new frame moves to a threaded BB! [Wil]
The rear brake pads are different from the front ones.
I believe Shimano utilises the same brake pad profile for the front 2-piston XTR post-mount calliper and the rear 2-piston XTR flat mount calliper. [Wil]
What's with the flex stays? It's a trail bike so why sacrifice small bump sensitivity for a few hundred grams. Pivot, Yeti, Trek and Ibis still aren't using this.
yet...
Done right, a flex stay bike can ride incredibly well with great small bump sensitivity. It's worth noting that there are some long travel bikes out there that use a flex stay design, like the 170mm travel Merida One-Sixty; ruclips.net/video/l_XbRU2WzuQ/видео.html
The Specialized Stumpjumper also uses flex stays, and that's also a brilliant bike; ruclips.net/video/NHK1k1idEbM/видео.html
I think there are quite a few factors that contribute to how a suspension design performs on the trail, which makes it difficult to make black and white statements about a single platform. Indeed it's possible to have a flex stay design be quite plush and sensitive, and you can have a multi-link bike that is overly firm.
In this shorter travel space, going the flex stay route saves significant weight and reduces the number of moving parts. And in the case of the Scott Spark, Cervelo ZFS-5 and Canyon Lux Trail, they're still able to offer great small bump sensitivity.
Hope that helps!
[Wil]
Need real comparision between this Canyon Lux vs upcomming Mondraker F Podium RR.
Very keen to test out the new Mondraker F-Podium, that bike looks like a ripper! We'll see if we can't get our hands on one to review. [Wil]
This is what the Epic WC should have been
I'd say the Lux Trail is more similar to the Epic EVO, both in terms of travel and geometry. In comparison, the Epic WC is a pure race bike and is much more similar in ride quality to the Lux WC. [Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeRUclips
Exactly, I think the WC is filling a spot that wasn’t there. The Epic Evo with remote lockout is winning races.
Too heavy for double duty as xc racer and trail bike. Hopefully the CFR version is a lot lighter.
this is the CFR version....
@@user-jr3hp9bd9h Whoops, rather than watch the video I went to the Canyon site and they didn’t have the CFR on there yet. The regular one was like 28 pounds.
Bike for bike, the new Lux trail seems to be slightly heavier than the previous version, not massively so, but enough to make a difference if you are racing.
I didn't realize the dropper was all or nothing. Yuck!
Yep, it's a 2-position dropper! Makes it extremely lightweight, but it does take some getting used to. We've got a separate review on the Transfer SL if you fancy checking it out; flowmountainbike.com/tests/fox-transfer-sl-dropper-review/
[Wil]
Heavy.
do you want to buy a bicycle from my company
Why so heavy?
As in the frame weight or the complete bike weight? [Wil]
@FlowMountainBikeRUclips It just seems strange for a downcountry frame to be so heavy. Just curious what engineering choices they made to get it that heavy.
I believe it's the addition of frame storage that results in a higher weight. There's a fair bit of reinforcement required to maintain strength and stiffness when you put a hole in the frame, and more material will result in more weight.
It's worth noting that there aren't many frames in the XC category that offer internal storage. It's more common when you get past 120/130mm of travel, but the Lux Trail sits on its own for an XC bike with 115mm of travel.
Whether the addition of storage is worth the added weight is up to you. If you're not bothered, it could be worth looking at the Lux World Cup, which is 400g lighter for an equivalent CFR frameset. I've been riding a Lux World Cup with a 110mm fork recently, and it's an absolute ripper - check it out here if you fancy: flowmountainbike.com/tests/2024-rockshox-sid-sidluxe-ultimate-review/
[Wil]
Hambini says ,riding a Canyon is like riding a prison toilet!!😂😂
I tried one and you're not far off
Can't say I've ridden one of those, so I wouldn't be able to provide an accurate comparison 😂 [Wil]
Canyon needs new designers, their stuff is all so ugly now.
Looks pretty nice to me,i want one.