Chinese Diesel Heater Power Consumption. How Many Amps Do They Use And Is Your Battery Big Enough?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @OverlandOne
    @OverlandOne Год назад +7

    Thank you for doing this test. I am putting in a diesel heater for this winter into my Van. I've watched many videos and no one seems to talk about the power usage. I want to make sure my battery bank can handle it, so thank you.

  • @Robert_Ray_Z
    @Robert_Ray_Z Месяц назад +8

    I do wish people would stop using amp hours as the measure of power consumption because that don't exactly tell how much total power was used. Amps times Volts tells how power is used, but the Amps is constantly changing all the while the Voltage is constantly decreasing if powered by a battery, If Watt Hours were measured the total power used is more accurately recorded. So I was tasked to wait for the screen to show Watt Hours and you to say how long it had been running to extrapolate power consumption. Just saying...thanks for sharing your video.

    • @OscarmfRoth
      @OscarmfRoth Месяц назад +1

      So a 100amp hour battery would be sufficient to run a 5/8kw diesel heater over night?

    • @SpatchcockRat
      @SpatchcockRat Месяц назад

      ​@@OscarmfRoth Yes, that will be fine. I have three 100Ah lead acid batteries in my campervan running an 8kw heater. I get around 40 hours from the heater before the batteries are at 50% So roughly one night per battery.

    • @GeorgiaRidgerunner
      @GeorgiaRidgerunner 23 дня назад

      At a half amp draw maintenance that thing should draw less amperage than a 100 watt light bulb To be comoletely honest i find that kinda hard to believe
      but im gonna buy one any way just to see for myself

    • @2hotscottpro
      @2hotscottpro 17 дней назад

      @@SpatchcockRatyah but is that cycling or on full bore? I have a 90ah agm that dies before morning on full blast.Not sure where you or how you get 40 hours lol

    • @SpatchcockRat
      @SpatchcockRat 17 дней назад +2

      @@2hotscottpro I have Three Exide EA1000 100Ah lead acid batteries that are 3 years old, so 300Ah total. I run my heater between 1.6 and 3.8Hz. It’s an 8kw in my converted jumbo Transit campervan. I drive between Britain and NE Bulgaria every 3 or 4 months so I’ve used it in -18C but on average I would say at +5C I run it at 1.6Hz and at -18C I ran it at 3.8Hz.
      My next trip to BG is in a few weeks so last weekend I wanted to test the batteries to ensure I’d be warm during my journey, so with battery rest voltage at 12.9V and solar disconnected I ran it for 36 hours at 2.2Hz come 6pm Monday my batteries were at 12.3V while still under load which is when I turned the heater off.
      After giving the batteries an hour recovery period with no charging, they were at 12.5
      I started the heater again and during warm up the voltage was 12.2 but then came up to 12.4
      After another 6.5 hours the voltage was down to 12.3 which is when I decided to charge them.
      Lead acid like mine have a linear voltage drop from full to dead, so last weekend 12.9 minus 12.3 = 0.6V so 60% of capacity. Lead Acids can be drained down to 40% before damage so that’s when I flipped the isolator to recharge them.
      It wasn’t a scientific test, but I got 42.5 hours with 4 on/off cycles at 2.2Hz pump speed.

  • @thelegion_within
    @thelegion_within 3 года назад +3

    having a real world test is really very useful, thanks! love the series!!

  • @89RASMUS
    @89RASMUS Год назад +1

    Thanks for a very comprehensive and straight forward report on the facts people wanted to know. I bought one of these to use in my project car since it's powered by an air cooled motorbike engine that would be hard to harvest heat for the drivers compartment. Had a few doubts whether the 35amp alternator would be able to cope with the heater, but now all worries has been put to rest. Looks like I'll even be able to use it for pre-heating the engine compartment in the winter for easier starts. 😊👍

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you and thanks for watching, glad it helped.👍

  • @sangetube
    @sangetube Год назад +2

    Very comprehensive look at the electrical needs of the diesel heater. Appreciate the video as I'm shopping online for an AC/DC adapter. I'll be looking for 10 amps capable to be on the safe side. 👍

  • @jesperholmelundulff-kalles1846
    @jesperholmelundulff-kalles1846 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for your info.
    I did change my wiriring so that i can switch between car and house battery as far as power for the heater goes.
    That to make sure i always have power for cool down of the heater...

  • @paulm.6437
    @paulm.6437 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for that info on diesel heaters. That answered the main question of what takes the least amount of power to heat an rv.

  • @florihae
    @florihae 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you!
    Bought one of those as a standalone unit for tent camping in winter. Bought now a 20Ah 12V LiIon Pack and am confident that it will run the heater for a few hours, especially on minimum heating levels, which is all I need for the tent.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi, there are a couple of videos on RUclips showing the very thing.
      Quite a good idea and makes it ultraportable if you only need for a short run 👍

  • @daydog64
    @daydog64 3 года назад +1

    And yet again, you made another excellent video.
    Well done Sir.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Thank you for your kind comments.
      They are much appreciated.
      ATB, Steve

  • @Yukonjackman1
    @Yukonjackman1 Год назад

    Love that little meter been using it for years for testing items. Its so simple to get data from.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Hi Gary,
      Agree with you there... It's a very handy bit of kit eh...
      Simple and effective 👍

  • @RoadcraftNottingham
    @RoadcraftNottingham 2 месяца назад

    So quite easily a few days off grid? Add the solar panel and looking good. Thanks for the upload. Very helpful

  • @theoldhobbit3640
    @theoldhobbit3640 3 года назад

    Can I just say your presentations and information is excellent. Easy for a numpty like me to understand and hopefully one day install and run a diesel heater. Many Thanks indeed...........

  • @anderscederqvist8855
    @anderscederqvist8855 3 года назад +2

    Very great analyze n process! 💥👌 Very interesting thank you as I have recently received a china diesel heater 2 kw and will install it in my campervan and I have 280Ah lithium batteries!

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад +2

      I think you'll have more than enough power there Anders..!!!
      ATB, Steve

    • @anderscederqvist8855
      @anderscederqvist8855 3 года назад +1

      @@TheWrinklyNomads BIG THANKZ for that info reply!🙏 I was kind of worried of that aspect!

  • @PeterLGଈ
    @PeterLGଈ 4 месяца назад

    Steve, brilliant! Perfect timing. I'm considering getting a couple of those meters and monitoring things like our fridge and freezer for a while, especially coming into our summer. The heater will be unplugged once the current antarctic blast stops, but I've always wondered about its power usage. Thanks, from a couple of Australian wrinkly nomads. 🇦🇺

  • @donner101
    @donner101 Год назад

    This is a great explanation it's clears up for me that the start up of say 7 amps doesn't actually take 7 amps off your battery.

  • @CanadianNortherner-i8g
    @CanadianNortherner-i8g 2 месяца назад

    On a 5kw CDH I've gotten about the same readings .
    Thanks for the video man !

  • @garrynorth6199
    @garrynorth6199 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great test and very informative, thank you from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @grahammutton1964
    @grahammutton1964 3 года назад

    Solid factual information which was well presented - what's not to like. 10/10 and thank you.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Graham,
      Thanks you for the kind comments
      ATB, Steve

  • @johnking9519
    @johnking9519 Год назад +1

    I work in quarry’s driving excavators… minus 13 outside was my coldest temperature… my Eberspacher was a 4 kilo heater… i ran that at 50% heat output…. My Motorhome was at 18 inside… beautiful… off of my 500 jackery… 8 hours running…… take it to my machine and charge…. Back again the next day…. Lovely

  • @tomasthomas7407
    @tomasthomas7407 3 года назад

    Pretty straight forward, and chock full of good, clearly presented info
    👍🏻👍🏻

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Thank you Tomas,
      Glad it was helpful for you.
      ATB, Steve

  • @richardpenyak2560
    @richardpenyak2560 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for the information. You answered all of my concerns regarding power usage.

  • @stevecarlisle3323
    @stevecarlisle3323 3 года назад

    Don, another valuable video. I have a few of these heaters, and the core heater seems reasonable, but the accessoires are near junk. Case in point is the fuel filtor. To me it looks like it will fail soon, i just throw them out right away. Having one of those fail inside a RV or Boat, will be a stinky mess. You can get good automotive ones cheap.
    Thanks again, Steve

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Steve,
      Yes, agree with you there. That's where they save their production costs.
      The burners themselves are pretty bulletproof....
      Although I have been running this for a year now without any problems, but once I start tinkering again, no doubt I'll upgrade these accessory parts.
      ATB, Steve

  • @mikeb4853
    @mikeb4853 2 месяца назад

    Great video sir. Providing the value no one else was 🙂

  • @stanthevan5694
    @stanthevan5694 3 года назад

    Great input, with the price of bottled gas about to go through the roof, this is surely the way to go for us MH owners who use our vehicles all year around.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Agree with Stan...
      Bottled gas is just going stupid now.!!!

    • @largemarge1603
      @largemarge1603 3 года назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomads
      Eugene, Oregon.
      Some re-fillers are out of propane.
      Some exchange-cages have only empty bottles.
      .
      I finally found exchange bottles in a closed garden-supply area of a Fred Meyer grocery store... dated mid-2015.
      .
      An aside:
      Southern California railway yards, entire trains of boxcars, emptied, vandalized, waist-deep discarded cardboard boxes.
      Is this is your neighborhood, too?

  • @oluffriesthomsen7680
    @oluffriesthomsen7680 3 года назад +1

    I have seen many of your videoes, very short and super informative. 👍👍
    Much better as many other videos, that takes 15-20 minutes, often repeating them self several times, ( pretty annoying) maybe they just like to hear them self talking. 😃

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад +1

      Thank you.
      Yes, I agree, some people do seem to like repeating the same thing...!!!

  • @mr.c6383
    @mr.c6383 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for a very informative video

  • @SamJam-bu8cj
    @SamJam-bu8cj 2 месяца назад

    I appreciate this video so much and I can not thank you enough. This is exactly what I was looking for. God bless 🙏

  • @lescooper5224
    @lescooper5224 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for the vid . My 2x110 ah barber's with solar charging should be great thanks

  • @johnwinder2462
    @johnwinder2462 10 месяцев назад +2

    thanks for the info. I want to do a permanent mains powered setup with enogh battery for 24 hours in case of power cut. The power drop should set off the automatic shutdown sequence of the heater in case the power runs out completely. I want minimal effort, but I will make a nice neat setup. Can you recommend a suitable battery and charger combination? Or maybe an off the shelf UPS unit? I live in New Zealand.

  • @NT78982
    @NT78982 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the informative video. This answered my exact question.

  • @cliff6490
    @cliff6490 Год назад +1

    I am shopping for a heater and your video caught my eye, i like the testing aspect. It makes it more enlightning to see the actual numbers as opposed to companies selling their products. My question is ( hopefully its not to dumb) i have noticed that many videos show the controller mounted away from the unit, is this standard on most heaters or is it something that you have to rewire?
    Thx Again enjoyed your video very much
    Cliff

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Hi Cliff,
      These heaters normally come with the controller on a long lead, about 2mtrs, so they can be positioned more conveniently away for the heater.
      Hope that helps 👍

  • @EunosRoadster91
    @EunosRoadster91 Год назад +2

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @smethurstmartin
    @smethurstmartin 11 месяцев назад

    That's some great information really helpful Thanks

  • @alanjackson4646
    @alanjackson4646 2 года назад

    Great informative delivery. Thanks AJ

  • @neiljarvis8911
    @neiljarvis8911 2 месяца назад

    Brilliant instructive video. Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!

  • @largemarge1603
    @largemarge1603 3 года назад

    2003, we converted a 1996 Ford CF8000 to our concept of an ExpeditionVehicle.
    Our interior is 7w x 12l x 7h, about 700cf.
    Our windows are stand-still house 3612, three feet wide by a foot tall, dual-pane sliders.
    We mounted our windows at eye-level while standing inside... about eight feet above pavement.
    .
    Nearly two decades full-time live-aboard, we are considering a diesel forced-air furnace, retiring our ancient propane Wave 3 catalytic heater.
    .
    Our problem:
    Our AGM bank is equally ancient, so running a 12vdc-dependant appliance requires significant modifications to our foundation...

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      I found the diesel heaters to be a good upgrade over propane and more efficient.
      Once upto temperature they really don't use much power at, but if your AGM's are near the end of their life I would upgrade to Lithium.
      Still got plenty of like in mine, but definitely the route to go.
      safe travels,
      Steve

  • @peterhertz4789
    @peterhertz4789 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for a very clear explanation!

  • @jimmyreuben6919
    @jimmyreuben6919 3 года назад

    Thanks for that very informative film.
    Hope you didn't overheat too much.
    Happy New year

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Jimmy
      Thank you and glad it was helpful.
      I had to open a few windows and vents.....!
      ATB, Steve

  • @pauls466
    @pauls466 2 года назад +1

    For those who wan't to run it of a power pack Bleu Jetty / Jackery and so on . The chance of success depends on the amp draw , some glow plugs are set to 75 watt and some to 95watt . Even 75 watt plus motor and pump will be at the max of the 12 volt socket . So not advised .

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад

      Very true there Paul...
      Also don't plug into the the cigarette outlet on a portable power pack. I was cause overheating.....

    • @robertdurhammusic
      @robertdurhammusic 2 года назад

      If you have a 8-10 amp 12volt socket you will be fine. It’s max firing up the glow plug is about 10amps then throttles down to around 2 amps.

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 Год назад

    Great video. So the answer is: naff all really. That's reassuring. Especially if you plan to run one of these off a car battery (~60ah).

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Thank you for watching.
      Make sure the voltage doesn't go low and you have over 10A available and you should be ok.👍

  • @OK-st9st
    @OK-st9st 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is awesome! Well explained video

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it! 👍🏼

    • @OK-st9st
      @OK-st9st 8 месяцев назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomads going to buy a diesel heater and 20ah lithium battery, now I can go camping for 2 days and not worry about killing my car battery. Should be enough for 2-3 nights depending on how heavy I use it.

  • @tb8573
    @tb8573 Год назад

    This seemed to be a very helpful video, but then it seemed that the information you give have few similarities with data that I get from my heater. Maybe because of misunderstandings on my part. What does not seem to correlate at all with my heater is the ”5.9 watt”. When running on the lowest setting and not being in start up mode, my heater uses 19 watts. When starting, for a short period of time it uses more than 100 watts.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi,
      I think you have slightly got your electrical units mixed up.... easily done!
      Your readings are in Watts, I have measured in Amps.
      Your running usage of 19 Watts is the equivalent to 1.5 Amps and the other reading of 100 Watts is still only 8.3 Amps.
      These are about the same as the readings in my tests.
      So all ok 👍

  • @knockknockbusted
    @knockknockbusted 3 года назад

    This guy is awesome. His installs, trials, and explanations are really helpful.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Ed,
      Thank you for the kind comments.
      I appreciate that.
      Take care,
      Steve

    • @BEASTmodeontheRoad
      @BEASTmodeontheRoad 3 года назад

      But he doesnt tell us if he is using a 2k 5k or 8k diesel heater

  • @voncth5791
    @voncth5791 Год назад +1

    Very useful info, i will use this on my sailboat. Uses a lot less power than i anticipated, you earned a subscriber :)
    !

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Glad it helped and yes, they are surprisingly economical.
      Thank you for the sub 👍
      ATB, Steve

  • @markg3305
    @markg3305 2 месяца назад +3

    All i need is a approximate watt hour usage for this thing lol.. if i understand this correctly for a tent situation id run it on low for 8 hours and that would leave me running roughly 200 watt hours? Or 80 ish lol oh my goodness this rabit hole never ends 😂

  • @howtowithluke
    @howtowithluke Год назад +1

    interesting that is measure o.oamps before you started it as mine has flattened fhe battery before from the screen when left on. I learnt to pull the fuse if im not using it for a while

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Hi Luke,
      Yes, the LED controller will draw a very small amount of amps, but the meter I use is not highly sensitive and wont read that small amperage draw, hence the starting zero...
      When I'm not using the van for any period of time I always pull the fuse on the unit as well.
      ATB, Steve

  • @fijiannz_44newzealandadven48
    @fijiannz_44newzealandadven48 Год назад

    I have just set one of these up for Roof top tent camping. Was hoping my 80Ah Agm would be happy to run this all night without using upto 50% .. I think i should be ok. Haha. Thank you for this video

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Roof tent..!!!
      Interesting 🤔
      Yeah, your battery should just about do it for one night.
      ATB, Steve

    • @heliosmediafilms
      @heliosmediafilms Год назад +1

      why one night? Hes got 80Ah where 50 percent is 40aH. According to the consumption that you have measured it should run 40 divided by 6 Ah which is 6 nights. Am I missing something here? Thanks @@TheWrinklyNomads

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +2

      Hi,
      No your not missing a thing! Your exactly right....
      I have no idea why I have said it 'just about' run it? It'll probably run even longer....
      Thank you for pointing that out 👍
      ATB, Steve

  • @786otto
    @786otto Год назад +1

    That is what I wanted to see, thanks for video

  • @stephenblaze4571
    @stephenblaze4571 2 года назад

    Really good thanks just about to set up a heater for my shed/Greenhouse hoping it will work

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад

      Glad it helped Stephen and thanks for watching 👍

  • @matthewcarter180
    @matthewcarter180 Год назад +1

    Thats not alot at all im impressed, mine gets delivered tomorrow its for my transit connect to defrost in the winter etc, also i was concerned about using the engine battery for a morning warm up, and wake up to a dead battery. But i think i will be ok 👍🏻

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      They are quite power efficient Mathew.
      Most lorries use them too.
      ATB, Steve

    • @matthewcarter180
      @matthewcarter180 Год назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomads thanks the reply, arrived and fitted last week, works a dream, the jubilee clips are crap though 😂

  • @urbanimage
    @urbanimage 2 года назад +1

    The display / controller on these heaters do use some power even when the unit is switched off. It's worth isolating the heater from the battery when it's not being used.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад +1

      Yes, but be careful that it's not accidentally turned off when running the heater.

    • @urbanimage
      @urbanimage 2 года назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomads Indeed so.

  • @anthonywiggins3959
    @anthonywiggins3959 Год назад

    Thanks for this gr8 video it so simplethe way you explained it mate

  • @bertoguzman2028
    @bertoguzman2028 3 года назад

    Thanks ,doing my initial lay out and your vid was very informative'

  • @ianjamiesonmusic
    @ianjamiesonmusic 3 года назад

    Useful thanks.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Ian,
      Glad it helped and thank you for your kind comments.
      ATB, Steve

    • @toja4591
      @toja4591 2 года назад

      Great stuff. Can you set it manually to minimum settings heat instead of setting desired temperature?

  • @raoulraoul7129
    @raoulraoul7129 11 дней назад

    I will have on my microcamper a 300w solar panel,150ah gel battery, renogy mppt dc-dc battery charger , pure sine inverter 1000w ,one fridge and this diesel heater. I think in winter ,the power will not be a problem. Anyway in the summer ,the heat is deadly. Any solution for the summer 40-45 degrees celsius hell?😊

  • @garytango
    @garytango Год назад

    Good clear video. Thanks 👍

  • @FedorLejepekov
    @FedorLejepekov Год назад

    Thank You, very useful and easy to read information.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Thank you for watching…
      Glad it was helpful 👍🏼

  • @mike-indiana6643
    @mike-indiana6643 2 года назад +2

    Thank you sir !

  • @oliver90owner
    @oliver90owner 3 года назад

    Please can you add the pumping rates for these phases.
    Presume the pump is the standard 0.022ml/stroke?
    It would be useful, in particular, to know the minimum flow rate for your machine, hence an idea of the heating power output.
    Apart from that a good, clear video.
    Thanks.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Richard,
      Thank you.
      I wasn't really concentrating on fuel pump rates for this video, however I do have the pulse settings to: 2.2Hz min and 5.5Hz max.
      But running on the temperature control setting (which I used) rather than Hz, I think the pump will tend to run on max or min during a heat up phase or min when in maintenance phase...?
      As for heat output, running at max. fan and pump did give me 93 degrees C at the vent outlet, so I suppose I could use it to gauge the maximum power output.?
      ATB, Steve

  • @bobbyandthomas
    @bobbyandthomas Год назад

    Thank you for this video, its really helping

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Hi Bobby,
      Thanks for watching and glad it helped 👍

  • @chrisb7762
    @chrisb7762 3 года назад

    Another great video, thx for sharing

  • @DieserMaBel
    @DieserMaBel Год назад +1

    Great Video, thank you!

  • @peterwilson5528
    @peterwilson5528 2 месяца назад +1

    Vevor has 12v 15 Amps on the label of its heater. I was using an Xbox 360 power supply which has 9.5 amps, it ran great for quite a while, then I got some dirty diesel by mistake used a can that had some stuff at the bottom and stated getting error messages. Then white smoke. Since then, I cleaned it all totally. Glow plug fine mesh atomiser OK. Then it gave a fan error I stripped the fan found the carbon was sticking fixed that and tested the motor seems fine but still same error. Now I sent for a new fan motor to see if that stops the error message. These heaters have an awful lot can go wrong. This heater was a Lemon from the start. Seems like it will never run right.

    • @slarratt
      @slarratt 2 месяца назад +1

      I have had my two at home and on my boat for over two years and have not had any issues at all. Dirty diesel is never good. Make sure the two cables are in the correct ports on the pcb. If you put two of them in the wrong holes it will throw up that error code...

  • @florihae
    @florihae 3 месяца назад +5

    Just a small tip:
    If you do something like this again, use Wh instead of Ah. I know in the RV space people love to talk about Ah, but it is not the right unit. I saw in your video that your measuring device also showed the Wh, which is a unit of Energy. And therefore usable no matter the voltage. If someone has a 24V system, they will only use half the Ah you mentioned, but the same Wh.
    Small detail from a overly obsessed engineer 😘

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 месяца назад +2

      You make a valid point there and you dead right, RV'ers just love Ah for some reason 🤔.

    • @florihae
      @florihae 3 месяца назад +3

      @@TheWrinklyNomads because most have 12V systems and then Ah can be used basicall equal to Wh (as in, 10Ah "used up" is equal to 120Wh used)

    • @CanadianNortherner-i8g
      @CanadianNortherner-i8g 2 месяца назад +1

      Easy conversion bud ! Smh

    • @florihae
      @florihae 2 месяца назад

      @@CanadianNortherner-i8g it is a very easy conversion, does not change the fact that Wh is the more useful term 😊

    • @slarratt
      @slarratt 2 месяца назад

      ​@@TheWrinklyNomadsbatteri3s have 12v and consumption is always a c20 of the amp hours of the amperage max of the battery...
      If i asked how big is your battery it will always be a 80ah or 105ah say...
      When working out you battery needs you always say I have a 30watt light system, and then end up converting that to amps as that's what determines the battery drain and more importantly what your needs are for charging the battery to keep it in a good condition.

  • @realtalk2036
    @realtalk2036 3 года назад

    Thanks for this information 👍

  • @lars-erikselin2335
    @lars-erikselin2335 2 месяца назад

    best video so far

  • @vss426
    @vss426 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much .

  • @Xyiter
    @Xyiter 7 месяцев назад

    Ok, so my idea of connecting a 12v diesel heater with a 12v fuse block thats also connected to lights, plugged to a 12v car plug into power station will work.
    Needed to know how many amps of power a diesel heater used before I decided to go with my idea, not sure if anyone else tried what I'm gonna do but I doubt it hasn't been thought of lmao
    Good video thanks.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  6 месяцев назад

      That probably wont give you good results....
      They use 10amps on start up/cool down, but always worth a try 👍

    • @constructioneerful
      @constructioneerful 15 дней назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomadstest carefully - the problem might be if the power station decides to stop operating as the glow plug has been heating things up - so you’ll need to be sure you’ve got that covered I guess?

  • @daviscrt
    @daviscrt 3 года назад

    Great information. Thanks Don

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Thank you Don.
      Glad it was helpful.
      Take care,
      Steve

  • @mibars
    @mibars 9 месяцев назад +1

    Super helpful! I was wondering if a 2nd battery is needed for just an overnight use, looks like it would not use even 10% of a battery during all night sleep. The heater I'm installing is a smaller, 2kw unit, so I guess it would use even less power.

    • @Chadlechon
      @Chadlechon 9 месяцев назад

      What battery are you using?

    • @mibars
      @mibars 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Chadlechon I went with not having a 2nd battery and my 72 Ah starter battery of unknown age had no issues with starting and running it for couple of hours at full power. Later the car has restarted with no issues (5.7 small block)

    • @mibars
      @mibars 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Chadlechon As a backup I want to assemble a step down converter that would allow me to boost the car battery from a 18V power tool battery, so that even if the car has trouble starting in the morning I'd still have a means to revive it.

  • @Philippines-Anthony-Sandra
    @Philippines-Anthony-Sandra 2 месяца назад

    thats great, thanks for sharing this

  • @ConciergeMed
    @ConciergeMed 4 месяца назад +2

    Hi, i searched for something and this, your vid came up, very good so I’ve subscribed.
    Can you advise: I have a campervan with a 110ah wet cell battery. My diesel starts well, goes through the warm up process but before it gets chance to progress, after about 5-6mins the battery protection kicks in 😢
    Would you say that’s correct for size of battery, is the battery needing replacement?
    Also, if it is correct and therefore designed mire for EHU, can you recommend a battery so i can use off grid please? Tia!

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  4 месяца назад +1

      That is a bit strange.
      Wet cell gives about 50Ah available which is plenty for start up and you shouldn’t be getting problems.
      Is there anything else running at the time?
      You’re battery voltage may be dropping as well, but that would give an error code E01.
      Alternatively true another battery that know is good.
      Any lithium over 100Ah will run it 👍🏼

  • @Mothy.P
    @Mothy.P Год назад

    Perfect. Thank you

  • @roadbiker8333
    @roadbiker8333 Год назад +2

    Oh that’s a 5kw heater from the comments. Thanks for the video, always wondered. How long i can run this with a 100ah battery

    • @fathergratwick
      @fathergratwick Год назад +1

      they are all the same size. clones of a 2kwh german heater. it you do the math on the fuel consumption and BTUs it proves it they all output between 2-3kwh

    • @roadbiker8333
      @roadbiker8333 Год назад +1

      @@fathergratwick but the 2kw is physicaclly smaller than the 5kw, i have both. Although i did turn the 5kw one down to 2kw settings, but the max on 5kw is definitely brings the temperature much faster than the 2kw one.

    • @fathergratwick
      @fathergratwick Год назад +1

      @@roadbiker8333 yes im aware they make smaller version too thanks for pointing out my error. I just did some quick research the larger version is a direct clone to the original german Eberspacher "D4" 4kwh heater they copied.. The smaller one is the D2 2.2kwh if you search here you will see multiple test videos where they break down the btus in the fuel consumption and all these chinese heaters ive seen tested were below 3kwh in output regardless of setting and fuel pump or advertised size. The whole 5-8kwh thing is just marketing exaggeration to sell like they do with batteries. The patent ran out on the german heater so the chinese cloned it exactly.

  • @K6DRJ
    @K6DRJ Год назад

    This may be addressed elsewhere in the comments. Just bought my first diesel heater. Honestly should’ve maybe researched more. I noticed your control is way more advanced and has many more functions than mine.
    What brand/model of heater is this?
    Thsnks

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +1

      It’s only a generic diesel heater from EBay.
      Nothing too special really.
      You can get those controllers separately on eBay as well.

  • @robowich
    @robowich Год назад

    Very nice video! Perfect

  • @stevehanna4345
    @stevehanna4345 Год назад +1

    Hi. Thanks for the informative video. Ive just purchase a 8kw all in one unit. Its run via a new 12v 46Ah battey with a brand new smart 12v charger/trickle charger. All is well for about 40 mins then the unit stops showing Error code E 2..... Any ideas what the problem is?....Bad battery? Would I be best changing to 240v/12v transformer, cheers. Steve

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Interesting….
      I believe a E2 error can be over voltage or no flame.
      Judging by the power supply you have is probably flame related.
      Maybe check all the fuel lines for kinks and the air intake or exhaust is not blocked.
      Or ask on the Facebook diesel heater page. That’s very helpful 👍🏼

    • @predictablejesse6497
      @predictablejesse6497 Год назад +1

      i had the same issue and found my fuel pump was actually drawing in air and i had to put better clamps on my fuel lines

  • @stevem3534
    @stevem3534 3 года назад

    Great video you are always so practical and informative ,advise if you had a smaller motorhome would you fit a 2kw?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Thanks Steve,
      I think I would still keep with the 5Kw.
      Would warm up the smaller volume of air quicker, which would be better.
      Better to have too much than too little eh..
      ATB, Steve

  • @bartvannimmen
    @bartvannimmen 3 года назад

    Well made video, Dan. Which make and type of diesel heater are you referring to ? Thx for sharing this technical analysis 👌

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi Bart,
      Thank you.
      Its the 5Kw Chinese diesel air heater, like this one shown here:
      amzn.to/3mfFbk8
      ATB, Steve

  • @smarty0604
    @smarty0604 3 года назад

    Great vid very informative 👍
    Given these use a fair bit of amp when shutting off what would happen if say the heater was left on and the battery run out of power ??
    Thus the heater not been able to pull enough amps from the battery to initiate a shut down mode .
    Or does it have a cut off to save it from doing that ?
    Does it shut it self off when the power gets really low ? Or does it just keep going until
    Either the battery dies or someone initiates the shut down sequence ??
    If it just lets the battery die without shutting down correctly then that is likely to cause issues both to the heater and persons using it

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад +1

      Hi,
      There is a low battery error code that will show on the controller to indicate the power source is low.
      If the battery gets below a certain point it will then initiate a safe shutdown.
      However, if there is a complete power loss, that could cause overheat damage to the unit and melt the wiring etc.

  • @jlr3636
    @jlr3636 Год назад

    Question about the thermostat - if you set to 21c, the heater goes to full power, reaches room temperature of 21c, then throttles down to its lowest setting. I assume when the room temperature drops, the heater will throttle back up to full power and go through the same process. Do you set the low temperature for the heater to ramp back to full power? Does the heater thermostat setting work independently from the heater level setting (1 to 5), if you set to level 3 does the heater continue to run at that level till you shut it down.
    Can the heater be mounted vertically, with the hot air outlet on the top?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +1

      Hi
      Yes, the thermostat setting works the same way a household one does. Set it to 21c and it'll throttle up and down to maintain that specific air temperature.
      You can't set a low thermostat setting, it'll just ramp back up when it drops below the temp you have it set at.
      If you set at level 3, it will stay there regardless of air temperature around it. It just ticks over at that level.
      I believe there are some units that can be mounted vertically, but don't quote me as I'm not 100% sure.
      Best to double heck with the manufacture's I suppose.
      ATB, Steve

  • @simon7030
    @simon7030 2 года назад

    Great Information thanks for the effort Keep it up.

  • @martinpanks992
    @martinpanks992 Год назад +1

    Mine is ran using a Ac to Dc transformer and I always wondered how many watts it was using, I can see it is no more that 40 ish watts.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +1

      Hi Martin,
      Yes, these little heaters are quite efficient with their power requirements.
      If you’ve got a fixed power supply then that’s ideal 👍🏼
      ATB, Steve

    • @lezbriddon
      @lezbriddon Год назад

      its not 40w when the fans on full and the glowplug is heating.... more like 100-120 for a minute or so

  • @davekauffman8727
    @davekauffman8727 2 года назад

    I started my heater up connected to a computer power supply rated for 12V at 11 amps, it died in the first 30 seconds of run time. I'll be getting a motorcycle battery when I can get to the store.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад +1

      Hi Dave
      Yes, definitely a bit of an underpowered supply there…!!

    • @TaylorMadejdm1975
      @TaylorMadejdm1975 2 года назад +2

      @@TheWrinklyNomads I'm curious why in your video, the amps never even got above 8 amps, how come the 11 amp power supply he mentioned, wasn't sufficient enough?.. 🤔 Thanks 👍

  • @kevinhughes9801
    @kevinhughes9801 3 года назад

    Good vid so useful thanks

  • @Only-Me-Again123
    @Only-Me-Again123 2 года назад

    Thanks for this mate, I've searched the web for this information and found nothing. Your video has all the answers I was looking for. Top man 👍
    Ps, I.ve tried finding the meter you are using cuz I like the way it measures. Any idea where I can get one from please?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад +2

      Hi,
      Thanks for your comments, glad it helped.
      I bought the meter from Amazon, here's the link:
      amzn.to/3uzHq6v
      ATB, Steve

    • @Only-Me-Again123
      @Only-Me-Again123 2 года назад

      @@TheWrinklyNomads Many thanks. I've subbed to the channel, excellent content!

  • @jemmapurcell941
    @jemmapurcell941 2 года назад +2

    Love the vid! 🙏
    What size is your diesel heater?
    2kw 5kw 8kw?

    • @Toob41
      @Toob41 2 года назад +1

      He said 5kW in another reply

  • @spaceportseven
    @spaceportseven Год назад

    Brilliant and good data !v Lower power consumption than I guessed. I'm curious to know what the overall efficiency is for the diesel heater with regards burning the diesel ?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +1

      Hi,
      Yes. they are pretty efficient little units eh 👍
      If you want to know exact fuel burn rate and see the efficiency, I have a full video on the here:
      ruclips.net/video/z8SkKAlOAxU/видео.html
      ATB, Steve

  • @thermos750
    @thermos750 2 года назад

    Great video, so 6.5amp hours is what it would take out of the battery, in recharge words, 6 hrs back on the charger to bring the battery to 100%? Or am I calculating that wrong? How do you convert 6.5 amps from a battery to volts from a battery?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад

      Hi Chris
      Doesn’t quite work like that, but long as you can put back the 6.5amps used you should be fine.
      This will all depend on you charge amount any charge time.
      You will find it varies considerably on what battery and recharge system you have.
      ATB, Steve

  • @Mattskibike
    @Mattskibike Месяц назад

    I notice your power station has a DC output 10A max. My diesel heater, which I think is the same as yours, calls for 15A. Looks like you pulled 12amps periodically and the power station handled it. There are lots of threads on line cautioning against having too low max Amps input for these heaters, but the power station options become very limited beyond 10A. Thoughts?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Месяц назад +2

      HI,
      In this video I'm not using a power station?
      At the time of making the video I had 3x 120Ah AGM as my main power source.
      cheers. Steve

  • @samfromportadown
    @samfromportadown Год назад +1

    I tried running a heater like this off a jackery 1000. But the high startup current draw overloads the 12v output from the thing. I might need 240v to 12v transformer capable of handling the startup current.

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад

      Yes, definitely, a powerpack will give a constant power for these type of heaters 👍

    • @robertionescu_
      @robertionescu_ 9 месяцев назад +1

      I got exactly the same problem on an Anker Solix C1000. The startup kicks in the overload protection. But there are plenty of RUclips videos where people are running diesel heaters with the 12V Car outlet of power stations....

  • @evanfox1291
    @evanfox1291 3 года назад +1

    Just discovered your channel and have found what I've viewed thus far.
    When you mounted the LCD/control panel, did you solder in additional wiring length or were you able to find a premade extension or at least the same quick disconnects to make your own? --I want to relocate my LCD and capable of soldering in longer wiring but would prefer finding extension cable w/ the quick disconnects on both ends. Thanks!

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад +2

      Hi Evan
      I didn't add any extra cable to the LCD controller to burner unit as it wasn't needed in my case.
      I think it was already about 5 foot plus long.

  • @kadedelacy6629
    @kadedelacy6629 Год назад +1

    I'm terrible with electrical measurements. Most batteries are 12v output and measured in Wh. How do this data compare to that and how big of Wh battery would I need to run this for several nights?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  Год назад +1

      Hi Kade,
      The controller will probably show a low voltage error with just 12v, especially on start up as it it also discharges the most at that point.
      By the way, battery output is measure in Amp Hours.
      The start up and shut down procedure are where you get maximum draw, anything up to 10Amps.
      At this part in the video I show Amps used for a 10hr period.
      ruclips.net/video/puvd9Z8zJFY/видео.html
      But realistically, a minimum of a 12v 50Ah battery will do it 👍
      ATB, Steve

  • @Hiker97
    @Hiker97 2 года назад +2

    What's the most amps (surge) at any one time? What size is you heater 2k, 5k, etc.?

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  2 года назад +1

      I use a 10Amp fuse to protect the heater as my 5Kw heater peaks just below that.

  • @IndependentNewsMedia
    @IndependentNewsMedia 3 года назад

    Informative video.

  • @scarysarah2002
    @scarysarah2002 3 года назад

    Hi, I want to remove the old gas heater in my motorhome. It doesn't work, so I'm having a diesel heater fitted. Do you have a tutorial for when you removed yours (if you did that is). I'd like to use all of that area for storage now. Love your videos, thanks 😁

    • @TheWrinklyNomads
      @TheWrinklyNomads  3 года назад

      Hi
      Unfortunately I don’t have a video on that.
      It was pretty straight forward though.
      A diesel heater is a much better choice.
      ATB, Steve

  • @rrengli75
    @rrengli75 2 года назад

    Great info! You get a sub.

  • @garywaite6963
    @garywaite6963 3 года назад

    I've got Truma Gas Heating using non refillable bottles. The price of bottled gas has gone through the roof. I have no concerns over battery capacity but would you say these diesel heaters are cheaper to run in fuel costs than bottled gas? (2 × 6kg in my van)

  • @robertminter3649
    @robertminter3649 Год назад

    Brilliant

  • @matthewlea4073
    @matthewlea4073 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hi great vid but what size heater was it 3kw 5 kW of 8 kW?

    • @Dave5843-d9m
      @Dave5843-d9m 2 месяца назад

      Electric power demand is the same for all of these heaters. Obviously a smaller unit takes longer to heat a given space, but battery usage per minute is the same.

    • @AnthonyP-zi6zp
      @AnthonyP-zi6zp 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Dave5843-d9mhow does that not matter?

    • @slarratt
      @slarratt 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@AnthonyP-zi6zpthe fan, circuit board and pumps are all the same so the electric use is the same, the 2 kW is smaller than the 5kw and 8 kW which are the same heater. The electrical use is the same across the board.

    • @johnsader8811
      @johnsader8811 Месяц назад

      ​@@slarrattI've a 24v unit, I need to install a switch as it draws power even when off, why is that?

    • @slarratt
      @slarratt Месяц назад +1

      @@johnsader8811 the heater draws a small amount of current to power the lcd display screen. It is minimal however. Best thing if off grid is to isolate all electrics to ensure there is zero draw. Ensure any switch is rated to 15amps as the unit will draw around 12ish amps on start up...