Fun fact: Ian Flynn was originally going to make a ending for Sonic Underground in one of the issues of Sonic Universe but sadly he couldn't. Sonic, Manic and Sonia would have had modern designs and presumably other characters too. Even though Ian Flynn never had the chance to make the story Archie Sonic’s fan continuation Archie Sonic Online would later make their own conclusion to the story that involves the trio getting Super forms and Robotnik getting robotizied
Me Too. As a kid from the 2000s, I never grew up with the SatAM Show, I grew up with several CD episodes of THIS show. It introduced me to Sonic in general and I've been in the Fandom ever since....
Supposedly in the 80s up to about the early 2000s kids shows weren’t allowed to have proper endings to encourage children to keep rewatching the show but man do I hate that they did that
Oh, God, I really thought this show was good back in middle school... Well, regardless, I agree that the dynamic of the main trio is the highlight of the show. I think my favorite episode is the one where they go to that parallel reality where they're the evil dictators. It's a cliché, I know, but it was still cool seeing this "what if" scenario. It pretty much showed what would happen if the trio had all of the power they were born into, but their mom still wasn't around to guide them.
The biggest problem with Underground was the lack of a cohesive storyline due to it being aired and released on DVD out of order. About 10 years ago, I sat down and watched the series through about 3 times with a notebook and made note of key plot and character moments. Ended up with an episode order that makes the whole series make a lot more sense, and felt like the way the story was intended to be. For those who care, feel free to use this watch order and see how it feels to you: 001 - Beginnings 002 - Getting to Know You 003 - Harmony or Something 004 - Tangled Webs 005 - Three Hedgehogs and a Baby 006 - The Last Resort 007 - Artifact 008 - Wedding Bell Blues 009 - Come Out Wherever You Are 010 - The Price of Freedom 011 - Bartleby the Prisoner 012 - Who Do You Think You Are 013 - The Deepest Fear 014 - Sonic Tonic 015 - A Hedgehog's Home is Her Castle 016 - Bug! 017 - Winner Fakes All 018 - Friend or Foe 019 - Head Games 020 - When In Rome... 021 - The Jewel of The Crown 022 - The Pendant 023 - Six is a Crowd 024 - Mummy Dearest 025 - Hedgehog in The Iron Mask 026 - Dunes Day 027 - Flying Fortress 028 - No Hedgehog is an Island 029 - New Echidna in Town 030 - Healer 031 - Country Crisis 032 - Haircraft in Space 033 - To Catch a Queen 034 - Sonia's Choice 035 - The Big Melt 036 - Sleepers 037 - Mobodoon 038 - The Art of Destruction 039 - Underground Masquerade 040 - Virtual Danger This episode order also fixes the problem with Bartleby's lack of character development as well by showing him actually change from a Robotnick sympathiser to a proud member of the resistance, instead of making him look like a flip-flopping double agent
You know, when you explain it that way it may explain why my experience growing up with this show seems so different from other interpretations since the DVD I had showed the correct order. Thanks, I'll watch the series again that way and relive some memories.
Not the best answer but I remember a comment on another video about 80s-2000s shows stating that they probably did that to have the audience not worry about continuity so like episode 1 will establish stuff about them but then episode 4 will change something and the episode 5 will relate to episode 1
it feels like a fever dream on its own to hear someone talk about underground in a more positive light rather than shitting on the show just for existing. It's refreshing. I want to hear about the good things bad shows did.
Imagine Sonic obtains a magic guitar medallion in a future game. The one episode I watched several times on DVD was "Three Hedgehogs and a Baby" which I guess was pretty good.
@@BinglesP Singing and acting are similar, but different. It's why musical theatre is such a crapshoot -- you get leads who can act but not sing, or vice-versa. (On a related, personal note, it's why I dropped out of my high school Theatre Arts class. Our big end-of-year production was always fronted by someone who was a half-decent singer, a _terrible_ actor, and *_best friends with the teacher._* This has been your daily reminder that neoptism isn't exclusive to family members.)
I'm so disappointed that Manic never got to sing more. It sounded so cool to me (like his solo in "I Can Do That For You") and his singing voice was done by Tyley Ross, who is a Grammy nominated artist.
To this day I’m still crying and throwing up over the fact that I never got to see sonic and his siblings reunite with their mommy! If they where to make another sonic cartoon around this time they should have taken inspiration from sonic adventure I mean that game was already sweeping the nation during the late 90’s
The premise of Sonic Underground was probably outdated by the time it aired. The idea of using musical instruments as weapons sounds like it came from a cartoon made in the 80s. Not something from 1999. It’s like someone at DiC found an idea for a possible new cartoon written years ago and decided to make it in an attempt to be “hip with the kids”. And Sonic’s inclusion looks like a last minute design choice. It’s like DiC feared that nobody would watch their cartoon and decided to put Sonic in it in an attempt to get some recognition. Jaleel White’s voice had gotten deeper. It’s almost to the point that he doesn’t work as Sonic anymore. The fan film that came out 14 years later solidified this. And on top of all that, the show would quickly be buried by the launch of the Dreamcast (which it was supposedly intended to promote) and Sonic Adventure. It’s still baffling that Sega would allow this rather than tell DiC to make a tie-in cartoon instead.
I think at time both Underground and Adventure started development at the same time, but Sonic Team and SEGA of both East & West were spiraling out of control due to national differences that plagued their egos and understanding. Peter Moore was trying to give the Japanese studio a reality check, but was bluffed by it.
I felt show could have done without that musical band sibs. I think that even goes back to the 70's. The way this show was written, they could have written this differently and on the level of SatAM.
Boy, does this take me back! I binged this show when I was a tween but never watched it since, so I only have my memories to go by. For some reason, the episodes I remember best were Sonic overcoming his fear of water and the one where Manic doesn't know whether he should stay in the hidden city or go with his siblings. I liked Sonic's development along with the weird town in the first one, it was almost atmospheric. Almost. As for the second one, I was obsessed with Manic so any episode focused on him was a win lmao
That opening was awesome. And I personally love sonic Underground. It's a good time if you look past the flaws. And I love knuckles in this show, and his Dinosaur Chomps.
I'm a simple person. I see someone talk about Sonic Underground, I watch to see their opinion on Sleet and Dingo. (my favorite characters). As a huge Sleet and Dingo fan, it hurts that their...lack of character development. Expecially because there was inconsistencies with them. Some episodes had Dingo like Sonia, some didn't. The actual FIRST episode that aired, being Wedding Bell Blues, had no such hint to that whole plot point, so it makes that plot point so...confusing. Not only that, some episodes Sleet doesn't mind Dingo's presents. Other episodes, he hates the canine's guts and plots his demise! So even HE'S inconsistent in that sense. Back with the topic of Dingo and Sonia: While we can very VERY easily write off that Sleet and Dingo are adult coded...we don't know that for sure. Their age is never mentioned. Hell, technically, the triplets also don't have an age, but we'd assume it is 15. For all we know, Dingo is not even 18 yet. We don't even know if that form we see him in IS his actual form, being a Shapeshifter and all. But, yeah...most likely, Sleet and Dingo are adults and this plot point aged like already spoiled milk. Just another note: Bartleby is apparently 18, which is also red flagged because he was proposed to Sonia. So it isn't just Dingo. My favorite episode was Underground Masquerade, by the way. The duo's dynamic was really nice in that one, with Sleet ACTIVELY praising Dingo. So...the wolf doesn't HATE him...at least in that story's pocket.
Not the best answer but I remember a comment on another video about 80s-2000s shows stating that they probably did that to have the audience not worry about continuity so like episode 1 will establish stuff about them but then episode 4 will change something and the episode 5 will relate to episode 1
Its an odd show yes, but it has its charm. I own 3-4 dvds of Sonic Underground, but then I realized, 'Oh there is no conclusion, dang" So I stopped finding the dvds and welp, there weren't anymore from what I've gathered. (No, I didn't get to see the robot baby episode, which was probably one of the dvds that I could never find after production of the old sets were gone) RIP Kmart
I actually have my own Metal Sonic concept for this show where Robotnik finds the same magic mineral that the amulets are made of and decides to create his own musical Hedgehog to battle them. The idea is basically metal Sonic's power source is his amulet and he has a DJ booth where he would have music battles against Sonic Sonia and Manic where he would play techno remixes of their songs.
That sounds stupid enough (in a good way) that I could actually see it fit into Underground. :D So ridiculous that it loops back to being funny/awesome.
I like a majority of the songs from this show, but one of my favorite episodes from the series is when they were trying to find their mother at the Castle that was "Sold" to Sonia.
I already considered this show to be pretty underrated, I actually enjoy it for what it is, but I'm even more impressed now that it's as good as it is; given how quickly everything needed to be produced. I mean I knew it obviously had a rush production (that is clear just from watching it) but I didn't know how rushed it actually was. Imagine if they actually had time to flesh things out and rework some episodes.
@@NES-ml3by Because despite the shows flaws it had its own charm and heart. Watching it again I genuinely liked the siblings interactions and dynamics, I liked the show dystopian setting, and I feel some of its episodes themes while not always well executed had good ideas. I'm not saying Underground is the best or that it needs a reboot. I just think for what it was it was an interesting footnote in Sonic media that I wish had a better production. No need to get so elitist over a cartoon hedgehog, man.
I watched this show as a teen on youtube and crazily enough it held my attention whenever I had the time. I remember once I ended up so absorbed into the absolutely bonkers shit going on I only caught myself in the middle of the fucking night 🗿
Underground could've been better if it had an actual ending and more polish. Tbh I took Sonia (and Sonic by extent) to be like, 19, given the former is (or was) engaged.
This show’s a guilty pleasure of mine. It’s stupid, it’s weird, but I kind of like it. This show just needed five more episodes to wrap things up and it would have been great.
It hurts me say this series was bad, but you know what wasn't bad? Sonic with siblings, Sonic with a family. I really want to see Sonia and Manic again, it's an interesting concept for a multiverse thing.
Sonic series was already 8 years old when sonic underground came out, sonic never had siblings in the canon or came from royalty or fought with instruments so the story wouldn't have tied into the canon
You know, I heard there's a lot of fan ideas involving Sonic Underground and I also heard rumors about the series either coming back or getting a reboot. To this day, it's still unknown. Like Sonic X getting a fourth season, it'll probably never happen. Only Sonic fans can dream. Only fans.
@@NES-ml3by Too true. Like I said, only fans can dream. P.S. If Sonic X did get another season, I wouldn't be surprised if they're based on the other games. Like Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, even the 2006 game, just to name a few examples.
A couple of other things I've heard over the years: The reason the songs are at times intertwined with the story is cuz DiC wanted to get royalties and supposedly got paid every time a song played per episode. There were only 40 episodes (although fans believed there were more) cuz DiC anticipated a renewal but SEGA wasn't doing well financially at the time and thought it would be foolish to make another season of the show to promote Sonic when the show had nothing to do with it or Adventure 2. Another production issue I recall hearing was that the alumni writers you mentioned were tasked to make the premise/tone like SatAM, but the cattle call writers tried making it "funny" like AoStH. So just as you said, the episodes had to be Frankensteined together so they just used the same episode format. A few of the things they allegedly wanted to be reoccurring elements or give a payoff to but ended up just kinda being there and going nowhere were the Chaos Emeralds, (obviously) finding their mother, Manic becoming less of a kleptomaniac, Sonia becoming less snobby, Knuckles appearing more, a thieves guild mentioned in an episode helping along with some of their aristocrat friends helping in a sort of final battle, Sleet & Dingo would switch sides when they were deemed useless (again), their friends getting deroboticized and the Resistance's headquarters "Sanctuary" eventually being found out and attacked by Robotnik. Obviously I don't know how true any of these are, but some of these sound more believable to me now. Now I've gotta go meet a guy about a bridge he's selling.
8:23 This was what I needed to know! Especially since I too had an immensely huge block of "unfiltered ideas" and concepts for my cartoon/comic I've been making in 9th-12th grade that was basically the mere idea of the "Stream of Consciousness". Which I've first started writing down the stories I had and drawing the characters, as well as typing down everything about my concepts on Google Documents. Which I've been working on fixing as of right now. Making it presentable is what I've been trying to work on making so nobody would get confused by my ambitions.
Sonic Underground has to be the most bizarre Sonic cartoon I've ever seen, it's even more bizarre than the Sonic OVA movie (and that's saying something, given how much of a fever dream that movie was). Where to start with the reasons why Sonic Underground is so bizarre? * Sonic is now fucking royalty * No Tails * Sonic keeps his classic appearance even though his current green-eyed appearance was already made official before Sonic Underground came out One thing I genuinely like about Sonic Underground is that it features the first (and only) appearance of Knuckles in a Western Sonic cartoon.
@NES I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the Sonic OVA movie, because there wasn't. I'm just saying it felt like a fever dream (because it did).
As someone who recently finished watching this show, the first part of this review felt incredibly ostracizing to anyone who actually enjoyed it. But I liked the middle and towards the end when you started going into detail about the show’s production and praising the team for what they accomplished despite the restraints. To address the elephant in the room: Sonia was willingly engaged to Bartleby, another adult character, at the start of the show. So whatever age these anthropomorphic cartoon animals are supposed to be, in this universe, Sonia (and her brothers) are of age. And Dingo’s crush on Sonia was meant to be comedic. Sleet and Dingo I felt had a good dynamic. Sleet was conniving and tried to rob and even overthrow Robotnik at times. That to me made him interesting. Dingo was an idiot that sometimes got clumsy, but it serviced the comedy and plot. They also had some really funny lines I think. Sleet: “Listen. First we nab the hedgehogs and hide them. Then we tell Robotnik, and make him pay a lot of money!” Dingo: “Retire?” Sleet: “Yes, retire. You can spend the rest of your life, waiting on me hand and foot!” Dingo: “Oh, boy! Wow! Thanks!” I felt like Dingo was heavily influenced by Sleet and depended on him, which shaped his morals. Those experiments Sleet did on Dingo to transform him on the molecular level regularly probably didn’t help much either. But Dingo did show signs of being fed up with Robotnik, and even Sleet, like when he took the chaos emerald from Sleet in the hopes of ruling Mobius himself and making Sonia his Queen. I think if the series had continued he would have eventually switched sides for the sake of Sonia, probably towards the finale. Robotnik himself may not have been a threat to the hedgehogs (because plot armor) but he was to everyone they loved, Roboticizing their family and that of the freedom fighters whenever he got the chance. And his voice was good. He was no Long John Baldry, but he certainly still HATED THOSE HEDGEHOGS!!! XD But I digress. A small handful of other recurring characters, like Bartleby and Cyrus, got development, so at least the show wasn’t completely devoid of it. I liked the bright colors of the main characters set against the dystopian background. The music videos were a mess to look at but I consider them a time capsule of music videos during that period. The songs themselves were hit or miss and mainly just used to fill in a scene. But some of them were indeed catchy. My favorite episode would have to be “Six is a Crowd” where they went to the alternate universe where Robotnik was the good guy and they were the bad guys. Not only was the song really good but seeing the corrupted versions of Sonic, Manic, and Sonia was particularly fascinating. Overall, the show isn’t BAD. That’s the point I want to get across. I have seen far worse. It’s not a masterpiece, but if you are a Sonic fan and have seen some of the other shows and want more Sonic content, check this one out. The characters of Sonic, Manic and Sonia are the main focus and draw and I enjoyed learning about them. Like how Sonia is very smart and mature despite probably losing the most when she joined the resistance and left the aristocracy. And Manic being a thief with a little integrity, a wicked lock-pick and hacker, a very knowledgable car mechanic, a pro air surfer, and on top of that being incredibly chill (“That’s Bogus!” XD) to me makes him even cooler than Sonic. Anyway, check it out. I’d definitely recommend it.
I would love a proper remake that completely finishes the story as well as takes time to make a consistent story from start to end. This show definitely didnt age well when air it was an okay show but now it's bad. I was always looking for missing ending till maybe 10 years ago finding there was no ending and that still is upsetting. These need to be fix if there was ever a remake. They dont even need a song every episode.
I always knew the show existed, but couldnt remember the name and always felt like a fever dream, a few years ago I watched half the show before giving up.
Here is a fun fact about this series. It was born from the cacnelltion of Sonic Sat AM. Season 3 was planned and wokred out but Sega wanted a a more 'kid' version of Sonic that was far less mature or in depth. Underground was oriignally worked on by the creators of SAT AM and they treid their best and even wrote 1 episode. But just gave up as Sega kept screwing with them and denying them so much. They littearly had to reuse so many assets from SAT AM cause Sega wanted it out fast and to have a musical theme. But you can see the fragments of the team trying to make this work and tell an interesting story in it's set up. Premise and even how Robotnick is portayed as alot weaker and more depedant on others than his SAT AM self. They really treid to make something here, but it's sadly half baked at best cause they simply gave up due to Sega's refusal to work with them. And theend result was this. And Sega getting what they wanted in 'adventures of sonic the hedgehog' Which everyone agrees is kinda not that good outside of Robotnick's comedic abilties..
I still wished that they haven't left Sonic Undergrond as a cliffhanger at the end of that series because we never got to see Sonic, Sonia and Manic reunited with their mother Queen Aleena as well as the prophecy fulfilled of defeating Robotnik once and for all.
when i was a kid we still had a store that let you rent movies, its been closed for awhile now but lasted longer than most, there was a free section for all childrens media, i cant tell how many times i rented out the exact same sonic underground dvd. the theme song makes me cry from nostalgia. im not even into sonic but this show is so close to my heart
This show was my childhood… I never grew up on sonic games, but this was my Sonic. I was really sad that it never got a concrete ending. But I’m glad to hear people talking about it!
Despite everything, Sonic Underground still has better hedgehog designs that most side things. Other media (such as the comics) would straight up have hedgehogs that were just sonic but purple or sonic but teal. Crazy how Sonic's own twins look less like him than some of these examples.
My favorite episode..? Idk, there were a lot of them, and I haven't seen it in a while. Maybe... Either the big feet sonic tonic episode, or the one with the Sonic siblings going to Egypt to find their ancient ancestor AhMon Rapi. Or something like that. I remember them fighting a giant sand worm. And I know that my favorite would be a different one for sure though, if I could just remember a few more...
I remember this show from when I was little! I always thought it was a fever dream but I'm glad I now know that it wasn't. It's so cool to find this show again!
I actually watched Sonic Underground as my first exposure to sonic the hedgehog back when I was 4. I was obsessed. Also, my favorite part was always the intro. Actually slaps dude.
Got given a dvd of this show as a kid. I haven't played a Sonic game ever, even to this day. I was baffled that Manic doesn't appear in the games or any other media
Just so you know Bartleby is actually Sonia's fiance not just her best friend. Good video though. This show has a special place in my heart and while it's no Sonic SatAM, it still has it's charm. Plus I love the music.
Cant wait for the time your Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog review comes out So that the collection would be complete ( well until sonic prime comes out ) i appreciate what you do because there isnt enough retrospectives of sonic in other media just imagine sonic prime using the multiverse setting as an excuse for sonic to travel to the universes of these cartoons or at least reference them ( i know its almost impossible but a man can dream )
literally me a 3rd grader watching it on netflix way back now being a junior is high school is so nostaglic!! i remember watching this in the livingroom of our old house :((( aaah
It's basically my guilty pleasure XD Is bizarre, but i love it for that Form be sonia amd manic are very nice and work as sonic brothers My favorite episode are the knuckles trilogy
It really breaks my heart to watch shows and realize they don’t have endings. I got chills watching some episodes of Sonic Underground, other times I found myself laughing.
When I was younger, the show was on Netflix for a short while, so I binged it all there, and it was… kind of my intro to Sonic? Like I’d known about it before hand, had watched some of Sonic X, but this was the first time I had really gotten so into it. Because of all that Sonic Underground has easily made its way into my heart. Also banger intro helps.
same, i watched it when i was a kid, and that was the only sonic thing i interacted with until getting into it for real like last year, and that was because of Underground nostalgia
I‘m from Germany and born in 1994. I always wondered why there wasn’t any new episodes. I really like the animation and the animation style. The animation has nice shading.
I grew up with Thai show, I used to get up at 6am every Saturday morning before my parents so I could use the TV to watch this show, I loved it so much. my mum even keeps a picture I drew of manic when I was 6. I watch it now I’m older and you can see it’s flaws but hell I’ll always love it, as it’s a big part of my childhood.
Any episode with knuckles is better then any episode without him not just because knuckles but most episodes with knuckles is way more plot related and just simply better.
Let's all be honest, we all had a crush on Sonia right? The only thing that was offputting about her was who voiced her… Until later on I think they changed your voice... yeah I definitely had a crush on her and loved her two brothers like a fan does. It would really be nice if they got Manic and Sonja in the games… At least to me. Wonder what their abilities would be since they are sonic's siblings.
@@NES-ml3by dude, they never put Amy Rose in the cartoons before, so she's technically the first American made female hedgehog mobian on TV that they made other than the anime of course. And I know they won't put manic and Sonja in the games. I'm just saying to me that would be pretty sweet. And if it ever did happen, which I know it won't, I would love to know what their abilities would be.
@@NES-ml3by it would be nice if they did change the back stories for manic and Sonia however I do like the fact that all three of them are considered royalty and rulers of Mobius if they can change that up a bit, it might work. Although some people have found a way to make it work in fanfiction called sonic X: heroes forever. Still, though what I was actually getting at is she along with her mother are the only female hedgehogs I've ever seen on the shows....😅and breezy, of course.
Fun fact: Ian Flynn was originally going to make a ending for Sonic Underground in one of the issues of Sonic Universe but sadly he couldn't. Sonic, Manic and Sonia would have had modern designs and presumably other characters too. Even though Ian Flynn never had the chance to make the story Archie Sonic’s fan continuation Archie Sonic Online would later make their own conclusion to the story that involves the trio getting Super forms and Robotnik getting robotizied
Nobody cares about Archie Sonic Online
Where did you find this Info?
@@themrstermann2971 There was a Comic that Shows the Finale of Sonic Underground.
@@omarmendez0402 Nobody cares about *YOUR OPINION*
@@omarmendez0402 im in your walls
I grew up with sonic underground on dvd, and I loved it to death. I still look back on it fondly. It’s sad that the show never got a proper ending.
Yeah ikr
Same for me
Gosh, neither did SatAM iirc. What's with that?
I loved it too 😭
Me Too.
As a kid from the 2000s, I never grew up with the SatAM Show, I grew up with several CD episodes of THIS show. It introduced me to Sonic in general and I've been in the Fandom ever since....
I honestly wished this show had a proper conclusion.
Why do they always have to end it on a cliffhanger? Let’s hope this isn’t going to happen to Sonic Prime.
@@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp *Netflix starts taking notes
@@Dragzilla66 it was. I read it and it was pretty good 👍🏼
I mean it has a fan continuation. Just look up Tamers12345
Supposedly in the 80s up to about the early 2000s kids shows weren’t allowed to have proper endings to encourage children to keep rewatching the show but man do I hate that they did that
you cant deny though,
the theme song goes really hard
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Oh, God, I really thought this show was good back in middle school... Well, regardless, I agree that the dynamic of the main trio is the highlight of the show. I think my favorite episode is the one where they go to that parallel reality where they're the evil dictators.
It's a cliché, I know, but it was still cool seeing this "what if" scenario. It pretty much showed what would happen if the trio had all of the power they were born into, but their mom still wasn't around to guide them.
"The children grew, but didn't learn what's right."
The biggest problem with Underground was the lack of a cohesive storyline due to it being aired and released on DVD out of order.
About 10 years ago, I sat down and watched the series through about 3 times with a notebook and made note of key plot and character moments. Ended up with an episode order that makes the whole series make a lot more sense, and felt like the way the story was intended to be. For those who care, feel free to use this watch order and see how it feels to you:
001 - Beginnings
002 - Getting to Know You
003 - Harmony or Something
004 - Tangled Webs
005 - Three Hedgehogs and a Baby
006 - The Last Resort
007 - Artifact
008 - Wedding Bell Blues
009 - Come Out Wherever You Are
010 - The Price of Freedom
011 - Bartleby the Prisoner
012 - Who Do You Think You Are
013 - The Deepest Fear
014 - Sonic Tonic
015 - A Hedgehog's Home is Her Castle
016 - Bug!
017 - Winner Fakes All
018 - Friend or Foe
019 - Head Games
020 - When In Rome...
021 - The Jewel of The Crown
022 - The Pendant
023 - Six is a Crowd
024 - Mummy Dearest
025 - Hedgehog in The Iron Mask
026 - Dunes Day
027 - Flying Fortress
028 - No Hedgehog is an Island
029 - New Echidna in Town
030 - Healer
031 - Country Crisis
032 - Haircraft in Space
033 - To Catch a Queen
034 - Sonia's Choice
035 - The Big Melt
036 - Sleepers
037 - Mobodoon
038 - The Art of Destruction
039 - Underground Masquerade
040 - Virtual Danger
This episode order also fixes the problem with Bartleby's lack of character development as well by showing him actually change from a Robotnick sympathiser to a proud member of the resistance, instead of making him look like a flip-flopping double agent
You know, when you explain it that way it may explain why my experience growing up with this show seems so different from other interpretations since the DVD I had showed the correct order. Thanks, I'll watch the series again that way and relive some memories.
Not the best answer but I remember a comment on another video about 80s-2000s shows stating that they probably did that to have the audience not worry about continuity so like episode 1 will establish stuff about them but then episode 4 will change something and the episode 5 will relate to episode 1
Doing Gods work.
it feels like a fever dream on its own to hear someone talk about underground in a more positive light rather than shitting on the show just for existing. It's refreshing. I want to hear about the good things bad shows did.
Imagine Sonic obtains a magic guitar medallion in a future game.
The one episode I watched several times on DVD was "Three Hedgehogs and a Baby" which I guess was pretty good.
Or like Geralt, put it in the oven
locke watching the robot baby sparkle in the microwave
I think Jaleel does a good Sonic and Manic but they should’ve honestly gotten an actual female to voice Sonia.
They did for the singing voice. All three of their singing voice actors could also do talking voices, so why didn't they just use them?!
I know, right? Bitch sounded like Steve Urkel's sister.
@@BinglesP Singing and acting are similar, but different. It's why musical theatre is such a crapshoot -- you get leads who can act but not sing, or vice-versa.
(On a related, personal note, it's why I dropped out of my high school Theatre Arts class. Our big end-of-year production was always fronted by someone who was a half-decent singer, a _terrible_ actor, and *_best friends with the teacher._* This has been your daily reminder that neoptism isn't exclusive to family members.)
My thoughts exactly.
@@SuperFanboy101They could've gotten Cree Summer or Tara Strong at the time 😊.
Not the best show ever, but it did have a lot of charm. Always remember it fondly.
I'm so disappointed that Manic never got to sing more. It sounded so cool to me (like his solo in "I Can Do That For You") and his singing voice was done by Tyley Ross, who is a Grammy nominated artist.
I used to love this show as a child lol, the Knuckles episode was so memorable to me
And fun fact, his voice actor, Brian Drummond, is coming back for Sonic Prime. Probably as Eggman.
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@@GIJOEFAN-ys8gpOMG REALLY?! I DIDN’T KNOW!
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IT REALLY WAS
You know, even if it wasn’t good, this show was my childhood and for that it holds a special place in my heart
"Robotnik uses LinkedIn to hire two bounty hunters"
not gonna lie, that was funnier than the entirety of Sonic Underground
To this day I’m still crying and throwing up over the fact that I never got to see sonic and his siblings reunite with their mommy!
If they where to make another sonic cartoon around this time they should have taken inspiration from sonic adventure I mean that game was already sweeping the nation during the late 90’s
You must have never watched Sonic X
@@thefastcommenter7774 I did watch sonic x I meant if DIC took inspiration from sonic adventure for a new sonic cartoon
Can't wait for the new show to visit the Underground universe
The premise of Sonic Underground was probably outdated by the time it aired. The idea of using musical instruments as weapons sounds like it came from a cartoon made in the 80s. Not something from 1999. It’s like someone at DiC found an idea for a possible new cartoon written years ago and decided to make it in an attempt to be “hip with the kids”. And Sonic’s inclusion looks like a last minute design choice. It’s like DiC feared that nobody would watch their cartoon and decided to put Sonic in it in an attempt to get some recognition. Jaleel White’s voice had gotten deeper. It’s almost to the point that he doesn’t work as Sonic anymore. The fan film that came out 14 years later solidified this. And on top of all that, the show would quickly be buried by the launch of the Dreamcast (which it was supposedly intended to promote) and Sonic Adventure. It’s still baffling that Sega would allow this rather than tell DiC to make a tie-in cartoon instead.
I think at time both Underground and Adventure started development at the same time, but Sonic Team and SEGA of both East & West were spiraling out of control due to national differences that plagued their egos and understanding.
Peter Moore was trying to give the Japanese studio a reality check, but was bluffed by it.
I felt show could have done without that musical band sibs. I think that even goes back to the 70's. The way this show was written, they could have written this differently and on the level of SatAM.
you were kinda right on the 80s thing, the show was partially inspired by the 80s chipmunks show with the song every episode format
@@PuppyLove2468 And Sleet & Dingo look like '80's action figures.
It got released a year after Sonic Adventure. It’s actually surprising this show got released at all.
I absolutely love how he used the songs from After the sequel!
Boy, does this take me back! I binged this show when I was a tween but never watched it since, so I only have my memories to go by. For some reason, the episodes I remember best were Sonic overcoming his fear of water and the one where Manic doesn't know whether he should stay in the hidden city or go with his siblings. I liked Sonic's development along with the weird town in the first one, it was almost atmospheric. Almost. As for the second one, I was obsessed with Manic so any episode focused on him was a win lmao
That opening was awesome. And I personally love sonic Underground. It's a good time if you look past the flaws. And I love knuckles in this show, and his Dinosaur Chomps.
I'm a simple person. I see someone talk about Sonic Underground, I watch to see their opinion on Sleet and Dingo. (my favorite characters).
As a huge Sleet and Dingo fan, it hurts that their...lack of character development. Expecially because there was inconsistencies with them. Some episodes had Dingo like Sonia, some didn't. The actual FIRST episode that aired, being Wedding Bell Blues, had no such hint to that whole plot point, so it makes that plot point so...confusing.
Not only that, some episodes Sleet doesn't mind Dingo's presents. Other episodes, he hates the canine's guts and plots his demise! So even HE'S inconsistent in that sense.
Back with the topic of Dingo and Sonia: While we can very VERY easily write off that Sleet and Dingo are adult coded...we don't know that for sure. Their age is never mentioned. Hell, technically, the triplets also don't have an age, but we'd assume it is 15. For all we know, Dingo is not even 18 yet. We don't even know if that form we see him in IS his actual form, being a Shapeshifter and all. But, yeah...most likely, Sleet and Dingo are adults and this plot point aged like already spoiled milk.
Just another note: Bartleby is apparently 18, which is also red flagged because he was proposed to Sonia. So it isn't just Dingo.
My favorite episode was Underground Masquerade, by the way. The duo's dynamic was really nice in that one, with Sleet ACTIVELY praising Dingo. So...the wolf doesn't HATE him...at least in that story's pocket.
i always assumed the trio is over 18, and i still think they are, so it baffles me when people think dingo crushing on sonia is weird
I think Sleet and Dingo's relationship is like that of siblings. Sometimes you absolutely love them, sometimes you hate their guts.
Not the best answer but I remember a comment on another video about 80s-2000s shows stating that they probably did that to have the audience not worry about continuity so like episode 1 will establish stuff about them but then episode 4 will change something and the episode 5 will relate to episode 1
Its an odd show yes, but it has its charm.
I own 3-4 dvds of Sonic Underground, but then I realized, 'Oh there is no conclusion, dang" So I stopped finding the dvds and welp, there weren't anymore from what I've gathered. (No, I didn't get to see the robot baby episode, which was probably one of the dvds that I could never find after production of the old sets were gone) RIP Kmart
Sonic Underground feels like someone gave a budget to a 12 year old Sonic fan to animate their Deviantart fanfic.
And I love it for that
I actually have my own Metal Sonic concept for this show where Robotnik finds the same magic mineral that the amulets are made of and decides to create his own musical Hedgehog to battle them. The idea is basically metal Sonic's power source is his amulet and he has a DJ booth where he would have music battles against Sonic Sonia and Manic where he would play techno remixes of their songs.
That sounds stupid enough (in a good way) that I could actually see it fit into Underground. :D So ridiculous that it loops back to being funny/awesome.
Honestly, my favorite episode was the episode with ART in it.
Same, but I also love any episode that centers around Manic.
@@KindaCringe404 Yeah, that's pretty decent.
I honestly thought I was the only one who noticed this show's shortcutting inspired knuckles' red electric powers in the movie!
I like a majority of the songs from this show, but one of my favorite episodes from the series is when they were trying to find their mother at the Castle that was "Sold" to Sonia.
I already considered this show to be pretty underrated, I actually enjoy it for what it is, but I'm even more impressed now that it's as good as it is; given how quickly everything needed to be produced. I mean I knew it obviously had a rush production (that is clear just from watching it) but I didn't know how rushed it actually was. Imagine if they actually had time to flesh things out and rework some episodes.
Yeah, it could've been on the same quality as SATAM. As it is it's impressive for what the production team had to put up with though
@@NES-ml3by Because despite the shows flaws it had its own charm and heart. Watching it again I genuinely liked the siblings interactions and dynamics, I liked the show dystopian setting, and I feel some of its episodes themes while not always well executed had good ideas.
I'm not saying Underground is the best or that it needs a reboot. I just think for what it was it was an interesting footnote in Sonic media that I wish had a better production.
No need to get so elitist over a cartoon hedgehog, man.
I always loved this show and sometimes watched it with my brother. Sad to see this show wasn’t the best and had a cliffhanger…
sonic underground is the best thing in the entire franchise, nobody can change my mind 💝
Nah definitely not better than Sonic X and Shadow
I watched this show as a teen on youtube and crazily enough it held my attention whenever I had the time. I remember once I ended up so absorbed into the absolutely bonkers shit going on I only caught myself in the middle of the fucking night 🗿
Underground could've been better if it had an actual ending and more polish.
Tbh I took Sonia (and Sonic by extent) to be like, 19, given the former is (or was) engaged.
Do I love this show? Yes, yes I do. Is it a good show? Weeeellllllll....
Ngl i enjoyed Sonic Underground, recently rewatching on episode 28 rn 😅
This show’s a guilty pleasure of mine. It’s stupid, it’s weird, but I kind of like it. This show just needed five more episodes to wrap things up and it would have been great.
It hurts me say this series was bad, but you know what wasn't bad? Sonic with siblings, Sonic with a family.
I really want to see Sonia and Manic again, it's an interesting concept for a multiverse thing.
Sonic series was already 8 years old when sonic underground came out, sonic never had siblings in the canon or came from royalty or fought with instruments so the story wouldn't have tied into the canon
@@nes96 If you say so.
Sega goes by the Japanese video game canon its what they said
@@nes96 And now they decide to make canon the American comics (IDW). XD
What I'm saying is something I wanted, not something may happen.
"Shes Pretty"
"And your ugly"
Nah, that was the funniest thing i heard all day💀💀
I actually really like Sleet and Dingo. I found them to be really entertaining. Sleet is voiced by my favorite voice actor from the 80’s and the 90’s.
Same
Anyone else remeber this show as more of a fever dream because it came on so early in the morning even the sun was asking why you where up?
I don’t care how you feel about it that intro song was a banger
Nice video on Sonic Underground! Good luck on the AoStH video!
You know, I heard there's a lot of fan ideas involving Sonic Underground and I also heard rumors about the series either coming back or getting a reboot. To this day, it's still unknown. Like Sonic X getting a fourth season, it'll probably never happen. Only Sonic fans can dream. Only fans.
@@NES-ml3by Too true. Like I said, only fans can dream. P.S. If Sonic X did get another season, I wouldn't be surprised if they're based on the other games. Like Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, even the 2006 game, just to name a few examples.
10:56 That's no dinosaur, our boy Knux tamed the ultimate f*ing life form from SA2.
A couple of other things I've heard over the years:
The reason the songs are at times intertwined with the story is cuz DiC wanted to get royalties and supposedly got paid every time a song played per episode.
There were only 40 episodes (although fans believed there were more) cuz DiC anticipated a renewal but SEGA wasn't doing well financially at the time and thought it would be foolish to make another season of the show to promote Sonic when the show had nothing to do with it or Adventure 2.
Another production issue I recall hearing was that the alumni writers you mentioned were tasked to make the premise/tone like SatAM, but the cattle call writers tried making it "funny" like AoStH. So just as you said, the episodes had to be Frankensteined together so they just used the same episode format.
A few of the things they allegedly wanted to be reoccurring elements or give a payoff to but ended up just kinda being there and going nowhere were the Chaos Emeralds, (obviously) finding their mother, Manic becoming less of a kleptomaniac, Sonia becoming less snobby, Knuckles appearing more, a thieves guild mentioned in an episode helping along with some of their aristocrat friends helping in a sort of final battle, Sleet & Dingo would switch sides when they were deemed useless (again), their friends getting deroboticized and the Resistance's headquarters "Sanctuary" eventually being found out and attacked by Robotnik.
Obviously I don't know how true any of these are, but some of these sound more believable to me now. Now I've gotta go meet a guy about a bridge he's selling.
It’s been a year, lg6884, what happened with the bridge? What happened with the bridge?!!
@@thispersonwriting1889 I WAS CATFISHED!
@@lg6884 Curses! Perhaps a long-lost Nigerian prince can help us get the money we both deserve!
Sonic Underground was so underrated; I loved watching this as a kid
8:23 This was what I needed to know!
Especially since I too had an immensely huge block of "unfiltered ideas" and concepts for my cartoon/comic I've been making in 9th-12th grade that was basically the mere idea of the "Stream of Consciousness". Which I've first started writing down the stories I had and drawing the characters, as well as typing down everything about my concepts on Google Documents. Which I've been working on fixing as of right now.
Making it presentable is what I've been trying to work on making so nobody would get confused by my ambitions.
🎶“Triplets Born, The Throne Awaits!” 🎶
5:29 tamers will remember that.
My favorite episode is "Six is a crowd". It's just so good
Sonic Underground has to be the most bizarre Sonic cartoon I've ever seen, it's even more bizarre than the Sonic OVA movie (and that's saying something, given how much of a fever dream that movie was). Where to start with the reasons why Sonic Underground is so bizarre?
* Sonic is now fucking royalty
* No Tails
* Sonic keeps his classic appearance even though his current green-eyed appearance was already made official before Sonic Underground came out
One thing I genuinely like about Sonic Underground is that it features the first (and only) appearance of Knuckles in a Western Sonic cartoon.
It’s so weird that it makes Adventures look normal.
@@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp Underground makes AOSTH look like a masterpiece.
@@piranhalettuce Not to mention how AOSTH is surprisingly faithful to the games in some way.
@NES I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the Sonic OVA movie, because there wasn't. I'm just saying it felt like a fever dream (because it did).
As someone who recently finished watching this show, the first part of this review felt incredibly ostracizing to anyone who actually enjoyed it. But I liked the middle and towards the end when you started going into detail about the show’s production and praising the team for what they accomplished despite the restraints.
To address the elephant in the room: Sonia was willingly engaged to Bartleby, another adult character, at the start of the show. So whatever age these anthropomorphic cartoon animals are supposed to be, in this universe, Sonia (and her brothers) are of age. And Dingo’s crush on Sonia was meant to be comedic.
Sleet and Dingo I felt had a good dynamic. Sleet was conniving and tried to rob and even overthrow Robotnik at times. That to me made him interesting. Dingo was an idiot that sometimes got clumsy, but it serviced the comedy and plot. They also had some really funny lines I think.
Sleet: “Listen. First we nab the hedgehogs and hide them. Then we tell Robotnik, and make him pay a lot of money!”
Dingo: “Retire?”
Sleet: “Yes, retire. You can spend the rest of your life, waiting on me hand and foot!”
Dingo: “Oh, boy! Wow! Thanks!”
I felt like Dingo was heavily influenced by Sleet and depended on him, which shaped his morals. Those experiments Sleet did on Dingo to transform him on the molecular level regularly probably didn’t help much either. But Dingo did show signs of being fed up with Robotnik, and even Sleet, like when he took the chaos emerald from Sleet in the hopes of ruling Mobius himself and making Sonia his Queen. I think if the series had continued he would have eventually switched sides for the sake of Sonia, probably towards the finale.
Robotnik himself may not have been a threat to the hedgehogs (because plot armor) but he was to everyone they loved, Roboticizing their family and that of the freedom fighters whenever he got the chance. And his voice was good. He was no Long John Baldry, but he certainly still HATED THOSE HEDGEHOGS!!! XD
But I digress.
A small handful of other recurring characters, like Bartleby and Cyrus, got development, so at least the show wasn’t completely devoid of it. I liked the bright colors of the main characters set against the dystopian background. The music videos were a mess to look at but I consider them a time capsule of music videos during that period. The songs themselves were hit or miss and mainly just used to fill in a scene. But some of them were indeed catchy.
My favorite episode would have to be “Six is a Crowd” where they went to the alternate universe where Robotnik was the good guy and they were the bad guys. Not only was the song really good but seeing the corrupted versions of Sonic, Manic, and Sonia was particularly fascinating.
Overall, the show isn’t BAD. That’s the point I want to get across. I have seen far worse. It’s not a masterpiece, but if you are a Sonic fan and have seen some of the other shows and want more Sonic content, check this one out. The characters of Sonic, Manic and Sonia are the main focus and draw and I enjoyed learning about them. Like how Sonia is very smart and mature despite probably losing the most when she joined the resistance and left the aristocracy. And Manic being a thief with a little integrity, a wicked lock-pick and hacker, a very knowledgable car mechanic, a pro air surfer, and on top of that being incredibly chill (“That’s Bogus!” XD) to me makes him even cooler than Sonic.
Anyway, check it out. I’d definitely recommend it.
I would love a proper remake that completely finishes the story as well as takes time to make a consistent story from start to end.
This show definitely didnt age well when air it was an okay show but now it's bad.
I was always looking for missing ending till maybe 10 years ago finding there was no ending and that still is upsetting.
These need to be fix if there was ever a remake. They dont even need a song every episode.
I always knew the show existed, but couldnt remember the name and always felt like a fever dream, a few years ago I watched half the show before giving up.
Ned's Delcassified School Survival Guide was a great show.
Here is a fun fact about this series. It was born from the cacnelltion of Sonic Sat AM. Season 3 was planned and wokred out but Sega wanted a a more 'kid' version of Sonic that was far less mature or in depth. Underground was oriignally worked on by the creators of SAT AM and they treid their best and even wrote 1 episode. But just gave up as Sega kept screwing with them and denying them so much. They littearly had to reuse so many assets from SAT AM cause Sega wanted it out fast and to have a musical theme.
But you can see the fragments of the team trying to make this work and tell an interesting story in it's set up. Premise and even how Robotnick is portayed as alot weaker and more depedant on others than his SAT AM self. They really treid to make something here, but it's sadly half baked at best cause they simply gave up due to Sega's refusal to work with them.
And theend result was this. And Sega getting what they wanted in 'adventures of sonic the hedgehog' Which everyone agrees is kinda not that good outside of Robotnick's comedic abilties..
I still wished that they haven't left Sonic Undergrond as a cliffhanger at the end of that series because we never got to see Sonic, Sonia and Manic reunited with their mother Queen Aleena as well as the prophecy fulfilled of defeating Robotnik once and for all.
When I was a kid, I really liked the Cosmic Dance.... now I'm questioning why they did what they did....
Cool video! I loved this show. I just wished it would be continued.
when i was a kid we still had a store that let you rent movies, its been closed for awhile now but lasted longer than most, there was a free section for all childrens media, i cant tell how many times i rented out the exact same sonic underground dvd. the theme song makes me cry from nostalgia. im not even into sonic but this show is so close to my heart
This show was my childhood… I never grew up on sonic games, but this was my Sonic. I was really sad that it never got a concrete ending. But I’m glad to hear people talking about it!
Let’s do it.
*TRIPLETS BORN*
THE THRONE AWAITS
I don’t care what anyone says I loved this show when I was younger
Despite everything, Sonic Underground still has better hedgehog designs that most side things. Other media (such as the comics) would straight up have hedgehogs that were just sonic but purple or sonic but teal. Crazy how Sonic's own twins look less like him than some of these examples.
15:57 TEEN TITANS!
My favorite episode..? Idk, there were a lot of them, and I haven't seen it in a while. Maybe... Either the big feet sonic tonic episode, or the one with the Sonic siblings going to Egypt to find their ancient ancestor AhMon Rapi. Or something like that. I remember them fighting a giant sand worm. And I know that my favorite would be a different one for sure though, if I could just remember a few more...
I remember this show from when I was little! I always thought it was a fever dream but I'm glad I now know that it wasn't. It's so cool to find this show again!
Love your writing and editing style 👀
I grew up with and still love it to death, despite its flaws I still love and enjoy it
this show always stays at the back of my memory with no remembrance of expect for: it existed and Manic was my favourite character
I actually watched Sonic Underground as my first exposure to sonic the hedgehog back when I was 4. I was obsessed. Also, my favorite part was always the intro. Actually slaps dude.
great show ngl, love the opening
Got given a dvd of this show as a kid. I haven't played a Sonic game ever, even to this day. I was baffled that Manic doesn't appear in the games or any other media
Just so you know Bartleby is actually Sonia's fiance not just her best friend. Good video though. This show has a special place in my heart and while it's no Sonic SatAM, it still has it's charm. Plus I love the music.
Knuckles’ episode was also my favorite
TRIPLETS BORN!!!
🗣️📢🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cant wait for the time your Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog review comes out So that the collection would be complete ( well until sonic prime comes out ) i appreciate what you do because there isnt enough retrospectives of sonic in other media
just imagine sonic prime using the multiverse setting as an excuse for sonic to travel to the universes of these cartoons or at least reference them ( i know its almost impossible but a man can dream )
Sonic underground will forever be my favourite tv show.
Nonononononono the gamer pad explosion IS the finale. Robotnik dies and all conflict is solved, we just don't see the resolution for ourselves.
The knuckles episodes are goated
literally me a 3rd grader watching it on netflix way back now being a junior is high school is so nostaglic!! i remember watching this in the livingroom of our old house :((( aaah
It's basically my guilty pleasure XD
Is bizarre, but i love it for that
Form be sonia amd manic are very nice and work as sonic brothers
My favorite episode are the knuckles trilogy
Sonic Underground was the first form i saw of Sonic
This show predicted early RUclips AMVs before RUclips was a thing
It really breaks my heart to watch shows and realize they don’t have endings. I got chills watching some episodes of Sonic Underground, other times I found myself laughing.
a broken vow ther mother is not found
When I was younger, the show was on Netflix for a short while, so I binged it all there, and it was… kind of my intro to Sonic? Like I’d known about it before hand, had watched some of Sonic X, but this was the first time I had really gotten so into it. Because of all that Sonic Underground has easily made its way into my heart. Also banger intro helps.
same, i watched it when i was a kid, and that was the only sonic thing i interacted with until getting into it for real like last year, and that was because of Underground nostalgia
I‘m from Germany and born in 1994. I always wondered why there wasn’t any new episodes. I really like the animation and the animation style. The animation has nice shading.
one thing ill be forever grateful for: this show introduced the most important sonic character ever: hotep.
The intro is so good it gives me chills
Dingo and Sleet
Also known as “The Pedo and The Brain”
“His partner is crash bandicoo- I mean dingo”
My favorite Sonic Underground episode is The Jewel of the Crown.
I remember watching this show oh so very young and it keeps popping in my head so I looked it up and found this
I admit I haven’t seen this show. But, as a writer, I hate it when a story doesn’t get resolved.
That intro had no right being as good as it was, i only remember the intro tbh
I grew up with Thai show, I used to get up at 6am every Saturday morning before my parents so I could use the TV to watch this show, I loved it so much. my mum even keeps a picture I drew of manic when I was 6.
I watch it now I’m older and you can see it’s flaws but hell I’ll always love it, as it’s a big part of my childhood.
sonic basically flys in boost, and half the characters smile when they really shouldnt
The German intro was bomb tho. It still lives in my head rent free.
The first thing I thought when i read the title was "why the fuck would you do that?"
Any episode with knuckles is better then any episode without him not just because knuckles but most episodes with knuckles is way more plot related and just simply better.
Let's all be honest, we all had a crush on Sonia right? The only thing that was offputting about her was who voiced her… Until later on I think they changed your voice... yeah I definitely had a crush on her and loved her two brothers like a fan does. It would really be nice if they got Manic and Sonja in the games… At least to me. Wonder what their abilities would be since they are sonic's siblings.
Not me bud, my eyes was on queen aleena! Which unfortunately it seems she was a plot device for team sonic! Tara Strong voiced her as well!
@@Prince-Shogun truth be told I had a crush on her too but mostly Sonia
@@NES-ml3by dude, they never put Amy Rose in the cartoons before, so she's technically the first American made female hedgehog mobian on TV that they made other than the anime of course. And I know they won't put manic and Sonja in the games. I'm just saying to me that would be pretty sweet. And if it ever did happen, which I know it won't, I would love to know what their abilities would be.
@@NES-ml3by it would be nice if they did change the back stories for manic and Sonia however I do like the fact that all three of them are considered royalty and rulers of Mobius if they can change that up a bit, it might work.
Although some people have found a way to make it work in fanfiction called sonic X: heroes forever.
Still, though what I was actually getting at is she along with her mother are the only female hedgehogs I've ever seen on the shows....😅and breezy, of course.