How Tom Waits writes songs

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
  • Welcome to The Songwriter’s Workshop. This is the series where I attempt to write songs based on the process and techniques of famous songwriters. Each video looks at a different songwriter’s writing habits, musical inspirations, and creative process while also including an original song written using those techniques.
    In this video, I look at the writing techniques of Tom Waits as told in interviews he has given over his career, compiled in the book Tom Waits on Tom Waits, edited by Paul Maher Jr. Using Tom's methods, I write two new songs, When Gods Come To Town and Josephine.
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    00:00 TSW Intro
    00:20 Tom Waits Intro
    04:07 Part 1 - Ideas
    07:10 Part 2 - Words
    10:31 Part 3 - Music
    12:56 Part 4 - Craft
    14:40 Song #1 - When Gods Come To Town
    17:17 Song #2 - Josephine
    21:15 Outro
    #tomwaits #howtowriteasong #songwriting
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  • @darwinsaye
    @darwinsaye Год назад +35

    I think one of the most revealing things that Tom said about writing lyrics is that after years of *working* and agonizing over writing, he noticed that when children are playing and making up songs, they will just sing the first thing that comes out, whether it rhymes or not, whether it makes sense to a linear "narrative" or not; no editing, no analyzing, not only not over-thinking, but not thinking about it at all. You can really hear that in his lyrics when he transitions to his more experimental period starting with Swordfish "Trombones". You can even see it right in the album title. His song "A Little Rain" is a good example. The first stanza rhymes, A, A, B, B; and then you don't see another rhyme for the rest of the song. Although he does say "Oh, the world is round, so I'll go around" as one later line, which is wonderfully lazy and "naive", and in the last stanza he makes a stretch at "rhyming" vagabond and mom. Also the narrative meanders from passing mention of a German dwarf and a butchers son dancing in a bar, a guitarist with missing fingers, the narrator sleeping with a shovel and gloves, but ends up lamenting about a young runaway, who likely did not survive.

    • @patrickbrownson1
      @patrickbrownson1 11 месяцев назад

      I think this is all true, but Tom Waits saying the first thing that comes to his mind is very different from any ol’ dunce doing so. His stream-of-consciousness approach ends up as “Jockey Full of Bourbon” and “Circus”.
      And I imagine that the time he spent as a more traditional songwriter, when he was crafting his lyrics more carefully, is what ultimately gave him his “first thought = best thought” abilities. So, even though he realized that “agonizing” over his writing was not giving him the results he wanted, I think he probably had to go through that initial period in order to go beyond it.
      And again, since he’s Tom Waits, his random thoughts are gonna be more intriguing and evocative than yours or mine anyway.

    • @darwinsaye
      @darwinsaye 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@patrickbrownson1 Very true. I also think a lot of his talent in lyric writing lies in his ability to resist the ingrained, subconscious drive to edit. I’m sure he does *some* editing, but sometimes it’s striking just how abruptly out of context a phrase will seem to be, or how a phrase will strongly suggest an upcoming rhyme, only to be followed by a suddenly truncated un-rhymed line. He can *so* utterly subvert what the listener’s brain anticipates hearing. Utterly brilliant.

    • @patrickbrownson1
      @patrickbrownson1 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@darwinsaye Yes. There are some phrases in his songs that will just pop into my mind at random times- “tilapia fish cakes and fried black swan”, “flamingo drinkin’ from a cocktail glass”, “stand in the shade of me, things are now made of me”- that have no traditional meaning or “depth”, either to my life or within the song itself. They are just amazing linguistic curlicues, and they bring me more joy than most other songwriter’s more linear writing could ever do.

    • @JKentF
      @JKentF 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@patrickbrownson1That’s what I do…. Tom is one of my favorites. I tend to get more linear though. Check out this one I did two years ago.
      1.
      “You gotta make it work in any way you can”
      It’s a different feeling since momma split and left for another town
      You’ve got two hopeful kids gazing to the street corner
      Hoping she returns with her dimes and her quarters
      2.
      “There’s not enough to go around, spare some for later”
      I suggest we cut it with scopolamine, 5 ml (udtalt “mills”) per
      Wednesday’s almost a week away and the holiday’s coming up
      You can’t cut a bald man, so what’s up?
      Chorus.
      A-
      We’ve got tiny presents in cheat boxes
      We’ve got ornaments for all to see
      There’s a plastic turkey, potatoes and relish
      And a styrofoam Christmas tree
      B-
      When summer comes and if we’re lucky
      There’ll be saved up for a trip
      Your hopes and dreams are sailed away
      On a styrofoam cargo ship
      It’s on my IG…. A lot of poetry there.

  • @lasaranasdelneptuno2201
    @lasaranasdelneptuno2201 Год назад +12

    Your best one yet imho. Josephine is a keeper!

  • @kmanley29687
    @kmanley29687 Год назад +8

    Tom's one of my favorites, and this video was great!

  • @patrickbrownson1
    @patrickbrownson1 11 месяцев назад +4

    Glad you shouted out “Real Gone”- one of my absolute favorites of his, and (I think) his most criminally underrated.

  • @boulderdesigner
    @boulderdesigner Год назад +3

    Tom waits for no one!..
    You really nailed this songwriting exercise! Well done and most inspiring! 👏thank you

  • @soxymoon
    @soxymoon 2 месяца назад +2

    i love tom waits so much and i got to the end and got the best surprise heheh

  • @natet5959
    @natet5959 Год назад +2

    I could see Tom Waits writing a song like this. Well done!

  • @rolandhicks1874
    @rolandhicks1874 2 дня назад

    Love that song

  • @jeremiahhankins3372
    @jeremiahhankins3372 Месяц назад +1

    I really like your analysis! I can definitely hear more of the singing through a megaphone sound, or maybe just some more percussive buisness going on in the first one.
    I was making up my own background vocal choir parts (and strings too) while listening to the second one.
    Very good, both of them!

  • @michaelmullenfiddler
    @michaelmullenfiddler 10 часов назад

    Cool video. Your first song does have a "Tom Waits-ie vibe". But it also reminds me of Nick Cave

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Год назад +8

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    I’m surprised how much of my own techniques mirror Tom Waits’ because I write nothing like him; play nothing like him; sound nothing like him and yet the fragments and the butterfly net and all that really resonate with me😜

    • @TheSongwritersWorkshop
      @TheSongwritersWorkshop  Год назад +1

      Same here! Tom is unique in many ways, but some things about songwriting can be universal

    • @BeesWaxMinder
      @BeesWaxMinder Год назад

      @@TheSongwritersWorkshop
      Well Said

  • @teejaygeez
    @teejaygeez 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the deep dive. Great analysis and very convincing results. Well done.

  • @pauldritsas6047
    @pauldritsas6047 4 месяца назад

    Luv it!! Absolutely Brilliant!

  • @metroknow
    @metroknow Год назад

    Found your RUclips content via TikTok - very glad I did! Love the concept and great analysis!

  • @jpsong321
    @jpsong321 Год назад

    An excellent piece of work...Thank you!

  • @americanasgrandson
    @americanasgrandson 6 месяцев назад

    This was an excellent experience and I especially enjoyed being present to how you personally chose to approach the task. It was like the insight Waits shared and the choices you made even allowed me to imagine how my own experience might play. Right on! ♥️💙💜

  • @wheresallthezombies
    @wheresallthezombies Год назад +1

    Man I love these videos and was hoping you’d do Tom waits.

  • @dead0ntime
    @dead0ntime Год назад +1

    Wow this is wonderful. You really dove deep and captured Waits’ essence with your writing. Would love to see you tackle Springsteen or Stevie Wonder next

  • @chickenstand8905
    @chickenstand8905 Год назад +3

    That first one sounds more like Nick Cave than Tom Waits for my money. Either way, love the series man, so much great information and inspiration

    • @edluacoles
      @edluacoles Год назад

      I came here to say the second one sounds just like Nick Cave!!!

    • @barnabyjones2203
      @barnabyjones2203 Год назад

      Thought the same!

  • @thebigfootking
    @thebigfootking Год назад +2

    Loved Josephine especially. Any pointers on how to get Waitsian (is that a term!?) chord progressions down? What kinda keys does he ride often ride in? Any scales in particular I should have down?

  • @caddisking
    @caddisking Год назад +3

    May I suggest you check out Closer You Are: The story of Robert Pollard. He is the voice of the seminal band Guided By Voices. He is the most prolific song writer in rock n roll today. Well over 2000 songs to his name.

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur Год назад

    Thank you! I hope you'll do even more of these "singular" lyricists, you know, people who do things their own way. If you ever do a RUclips questionnaire / or whatever that thing is called I bet we'll have some interesting suggestions 😬

  • @michaelmullenfiddler
    @michaelmullenfiddler 10 часов назад

    Wow. 1st song was good. Josephine was excellent. Wow

  • @jvb952
    @jvb952 Год назад

    Those are two pretty solid songs.

  • @samsungladiesmasters
    @samsungladiesmasters 8 месяцев назад +2

    Please do one video about Leo Cohen and Bob Dylan!

  • @kevintarrant5854
    @kevintarrant5854 4 месяца назад +1

    Just like Tom you wrote the songs using 8 bar phrasing, I’ve never heard him use anything else.

  • @TeddyBullard
    @TeddyBullard Год назад +3

    Bruh please do Jason Molina, Damien Jurado, and Jason Lytle!

  • @RegularSean
    @RegularSean 3 месяца назад

    Sometimes I come here just to listen to Josephine. Dig the lyrics.

  • @captaingrub2228
    @captaingrub2228 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice job. Here's something I noticed once: Tom sings "There's a hole in the ladder and a fence you can climb. You're mad as a hatter, and thin as a dime." Now consider this: Normally there's a hole in a fence, and a ladder you climb. This could be a switcharoo.

    • @camwestfall918
      @camwestfall918 Месяц назад

      Reminds me of “she just smoked my eyelids and punched my cigarette” from Bob Dylan.

    • @captaingrub2228
      @captaingrub2228 29 дней назад

      @@camwestfall918 I concur.

    • @captaingrub2228
      @captaingrub2228 29 дней назад

      William Burroughs used to cut pages of prose into quadrants and then randomly tape them back together to see what he could get out of it. It works, if you know what to look for.

  • @TeddyBullard
    @TeddyBullard Год назад

    Stipe too pls ❤️

  • @kevinjoseph517
    @kevinjoseph517 Год назад

    I read in a book cohen got to him first, then geffen signed him.

  • @TeddyBullard
    @TeddyBullard Год назад +1

    While those early jazzbo albums are dear to my heart. Nostalgia etc, I'm so glad that he moved away from it. (he is too. Said it was a "shtick" not his authentic voice)

  • @normaleehi
    @normaleehi 5 дней назад

    Kathleen Brennan.

  • @NealDurando
    @NealDurando Год назад +1

    Nice excercise du style. Also, stop trying to kill Tom Waits. I need him for a few more years at least.

  • @wretchro100
    @wretchro100 5 месяцев назад

    you kind of sound like nick cave!

  • @morbogast
    @morbogast 4 месяца назад

    I think you don't get Tom Waits.

    • @greenvelvet
      @greenvelvet 18 дней назад

      Okay?
      Care to expound?
      Not very helpful or constructive.
      I'd like to see you putting yourself out there.

  • @caddisking
    @caddisking Год назад +1

    When gods come to town. Just in time for Halloween....spooky goodness! A nother site that may interest you is the podcast. "The Working Songwriter".

  • @kgbartellegmail
    @kgbartellegmail 5 месяцев назад

    AI couldn't write a better Tom Waits Impersonation song. Love It!