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- Where did sin come? Who created sin? What does the Bible say about the origin of sin? In this video we answer your question: Did God create sin?
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God did not create sin. The enemy was the first sinner by rebelling against God. The devil will be cast into the lake of fire. Then there will be no sin. Jesus died so we could live forever. That is The Greatest Story Ever Told!
@RichardM1366 I agree, Amen! God did not create sin. Sin came from Satan when he tempted Eve in the garden of Eden to eat the forbidden fruit after God told them both not to eat from it. Genesis 3:3 NKJV but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat it nor shall you touch it lest you die. But now since Eve were tempted by Satan, everyone is dying all around us. 🥺 After that happened, God cursed the Earth.
@@learleywells4498 I agree entirely. God never stopped loving us. We are his and no force of evil can prosper against us!
But God created everythang 🤷🏻♀️
@learleywells4498 so Satan created the tree of knowledge of good and evil? We both know better than that!
@@RichardM1366 that is a combination of scriptures for Believers 😉❤️
Amen! Love this GQ. Thank you 😊🙏✝️
I'm really trying to understand where sin originated. You've said that when God created the world everything was perfect, and that sin entered into the cosmos due to an act of rebellion. How did sin entered, if what God created was perfect? If the Archangel Lucifer rebelled against God, that means that seed of sin in him was there from the beginning. Where did it come from? I'm just trying in my little ity bity brain of mine, trying to understand. That's all.
Good question. Lucifer sought at some point to exalt himself. Everyone that Lucifer, now called Satan, deceives seeks to some extent to exalt themself
The answer: free will
“ I know I should respect my parents and listen to them, but I wanna do my own thing”
I think the real question is how much does God value free will? Now I'm not a teacher, so if you're interested in what i'm saying, I recomend researching it and deciding what you beleive based off of what the Bible says cause I don't even know if i'm correct, and, I do not want to be liable for leading somebody away from God so I'm telling you, I do not know if I'm correct. This is just what I am getting thinking about how God allowed Satan or then Lucifer to have the free will to make the choice that he did make. To me it is clear Satan created sin and Adam and Eve both brought sin into the world. ( Not sure who would technically have the responsibility of bringing it into the world though I think Eve but idk) So im pretty sure God knows everything, he knows the future and he knows the past. Based off that logic, he must have known ahead of time, at the time Lucifer, was going to sit against him. Now I'm pretty sure the bible teaches God hates sin so to me he must respect and love free will SO MUCH(im noy yelling at you😂), In order to allow Satan to still have that free will yo sin against him. Right? Note... when i'm writing this, I haven't watched the video.😂
Sin is the path of self destruction.
All things can be used for good, the enemy simply repurposes good things for evil. If a parent raises their child perfectly, but when they go off to do their own thing & they turn evil - that does not make the parent evil!
If you’re in a padded room, the enemy would try to make you sleep with your face in the padding so you’d suffocate in your sleep.
Too much sugar & fatty foods causes obesity, eating too much ‘good’ things. See where I’m getting at? All things can be used for good, but if you don’t function the way God originally made & they way He made you - you are in turn being self destructive.
The actual act of doing something, like eating the fruit God told them not to - was the first spiritual fruit, even before they ate the fruit; doing something you’re not supposed to (rebellion).
Having a wife & husband is good, being unfaithful is not.
God gave us all free will. Adam and Eve were the first to sin They allowed themselves to be tempted by the devil and fell for it. Thanks be to Jesus our savior that we all are free from sin and forgiven of our sins because of everything he did on Calvary. God made a way for us. Thank you Father! ❤👏👏🙏🙏
The snake in the garden was not satan
Where does it say that all humans have "free will" ?....I have read where folks are either S*l@ves to sin & suh L aves to Righteousness (study Romans 6)...but, sl_ves can only make choices within their confines. (I can't write the actual word that is often translated "servants", as my comment will be deleted)
@@LatrineDerriere
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 12:9
Please explain
@@SFTV73 The bible uses similes and figurative language all the time. Sinners are often called a "brood of vipers". They didn't used to be snakes. Within the passage you provided, I assume you don't believe that the devil once lived as a dragon? The jews are often referred to as sheep and Caananites as dogs. I assume you don't believe in reincarnation?
@@SFTV73 The bible uses similes and figurative language consistently. Within context, the entire passage talks of a seven headed dragon that chases a woman "clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars" who grows wings and flies away from him. Are we to understand this literally? Sinners are described as a "den of vipers", Jewish people are described as "sheep", Jesus is the "lamb" and a Canaanite woman is compared to a "dog". This is figurative language, it's not evidence for reincarnation.
Satan created sin. It came from his pride. He wanted to be like God.
And who created Satan?
God gave free will.
To Adam & Eve 🤷🏻♂️
@sandman9390 yes. To all of us.
@@lindabueckert9559 Well, we certainly have free choice within the confines of what we are, either "Slaves of Sin", or "Slaves of Righteousness". . (See Romans chest 5&6)
🤔If we were "DEAD in our sin"(Eph. 2:1, 5-6, 13, ) , then how could we have a "free will"?
🤔 How do I reconcile "free will" w/scriptures like Proverbs 16:1,9, 19:21, 20:24? 🤷🏻♂️
🤔Where are the scriptures that say we have "free will?
I know I was taught that for 30 years & preached it myself....but, can't find it in scripture. 🤷🏻♂️
@@lindabueckert9559 🤔 my reply appears to have been deleted 🤔...anyway, weren't we Sl@ves to sin?...are we not now Sl@ves to Righteousness? (see Romans ch's 5 & 6)
Are not sl@ves beholden to there masters & required to submit their will to their masters will.
🤔If we had "free will", then why did we have to be "Redeemed", "Set Free", or "Born from above" aka "Born again"? 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe, I am misunderstanding what you mean by "free will", as I have never actually come across that scripture, or in scripture 🤷🏻♂️
@@lindabueckert9559 I am not sure how you mean that 🤔Where does it say that in Scripture?
No- sin is not a "thing" like water, animals or human beings. Sin is the result of rebellion against God.
God limited our freewill so that we cannot do things such as fly, use telepathy or telekinesis. However, got allowed humans the ability to hurt each other. He gave teenagers masses of hormones and told them it was wrong to act on them. Sin isn't a tangible thing at all but that doesn't mean that God didn't create humans with a built in ability to sin.
ISAIAH 45:7
I form the light,
and create darkness,
I make peace ,
And create Evil,
I the LORD do All these things.
🤔.....so, what is your point? The Word "evil" is also translated as "calamity", disaster, Mischief, Trouble, Adversity, etc...even within the KJV, but nowhere is it translated as "Sin".🤷🏻♂️
@@sandman9390What do you mean by point? Point also means to provide direction or the end of a sharp object. You could be talking about anything 😊
@@LatrineDerriere Good points 😉...I was wondering if he was posting that particular scripture, because he thinks it infers that God created "sin" 🤔
Hmmm.
Was Jesus dying for the sins of many a backup plan?
Was Jesus’s sacrifice in the original plans, or was the original plan for sin to have never occurred among all of God’s creation?
Did God remove enough of his powerful presence from Adam and allow him of his own volition and free will to choose whether to follow his wife in partaking of the meal of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?
There’s a ton of scriptures, and normal reasoning, that would suggest that God planned a fall, created vessels of wrath, etc.
Way too much to go over on this platform.
God didn’t commit, or directly cause it.
But, it seems as though he wanted it to happen in His original plan, His only plan.
He could’ve prevented it, but he didn’t.
And since he is sovereign over everything, he planned on it happening and allowed it to happen.
1:50 eve chose disobedience,not adam
Eve followed a supernatural being and Adam followed a natural being......Eve.
@@EverlastingLife-pl9ug 1 tim 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression
@@Adrenalean767 You obviously do not read the Bible because it talks of "Adam's sin"! Of course he sinned when he ate the fruit!!
They were BOTH in transgression!!! Read your Bible!
They did not realize they were naked until Adam sinned, which suggest Eve's sin, by itself, was not enough to destroy the whole universe. Adam got a wife from God before, he could do so again if needed.
You know how the Bible is real and not from man. Well the book basically saids every man is not good, we fell, and then it’s lists all the evils we’ve done and continue to do. As well as only God is good.
If man wrote the Bible I bet they wouldn’t say man is evil. If man wrote the Bible it would be a self hating book that no one would read. But God wrote it and told you the why? The how come? And the who?and then became flesh and dwelt among us and he knew we would kill him, that was part of his plan for forgiveness of sin. For when we saw our wrong doings when Christ arose and we reject that part of ourselves that is sin. If it wasn’t for God we would have never known we all had a problem.
I make bottle.
Bottle possible break.
Did I make breaking?
No! Why logic so hard for some?
Did you have the ability to create a shatterproof bottle?
@@LatrineDerriere yes. But then I would have created something different.
@@namasi7070 You basically said, "If God made us differently, we'd be different."
The truth is that if God created us, he could have made us with freewill but without the ability to sin. My freewill is curtailed in many ways. I can't make the decision to be rich, change the laws of physics or choose where I was born.
Most Christians believe that there is no sin in heaven and yet we'll have freewill. So it was possible in their worldview.
@@LatrineDerriere "without ability to sin" (unable to go against God's will, only one choice, just one option) That's called robots, marionettes, puppets. Love = free will = option/choice. Adam & Eve had choice, it was for them possible to go against God, which they did. If unable to go against God, that would mean forced, no choice or option to do different. Does that sound good or loving to you? If you don't have The Holy Spirit, you have no ability to fully understand God's Word.
@@TheClimbingBronyOldColt Do you have freewill in heaven? If not, are we God's puppets after we die?
If you're a theistic determinist, in order to be logically consistent you have to accept the notion that God Himself directly created evil. However, if you're a normal person _(e.g.,_ an Arminian, a Molinist, a provisionist - literally anyone who accepts the existence of mankind's free will), you need not accept such a dislikable idea. You would only need to say that God _indirectly_ created sin in the sense that when He created mankind and the world, He endowed humans with free will, humans who then used their God-given free will to make a sinful choice. God didn't coerce Adam and Eve into disobeying Him by eating the Forbidden Fruit.
1:12 "when the starting point is perfect, the rest of the structure will be sound".
So where does the potential for evil come from, when the source of everything is a perfect and righteous God?
Not asking about why, I know it's free will. But I'm asking how.
How can you say that someone tracked mud into the house, when the only person inside has perfectly white shoes.
This is a good question!! I don't understand where evil comes from.
@78town This is referred to as The Mystery of Iniquity. How Lucifer up and decided to attempt to overthrow and ascend beyond Almighty GOD.
Evil is not a thing in and of itself (and thus was not created in that sense) - it is rather the absence of something: good. It is the failure of something: living up to God's perfect standard. Kind of like a black hole, where the universe is full of "good", the black hole is the absence of "good". I hope that makes sense!
@@andrewpery4787 Thank you! That makes more sense to me than anything I've ever heard! Blessings!!
@@EverlastingLife-pl9ug So glad I could help!
Freewill can never account for the existence of evil, we dont have to be robots to not have freewill, we could've still been free to choose of many different good things, evil didnt have to exist in order for us to prove our love to God, where did the desire for that first sin wether Satan or humans even come from? did Satan put the the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden??? No, but you are right in that we do know that there is no evil in God, that is one of those things that I dont mind saying I dont know and it doesnt make sense to me but Im ok with not knowing and I will trust God and that He is good, but I personally cannot buy the whole freewill explanation, it seems like a cop out!
I been lookin for the answer to this since I was a kid in Sunday school. The WHY of it all, if God is the center of everything. The greater good and free will make sense, but I’m still lookin for the WHY if God can rewrite the concept.
No freewill doesn't make sense, Evil would have to already exist or be there for us to choose it, even for Satan!
No the explanation freewill dont make sense if you really think about it, Evil would have to already exist or be there for us or even Satan to choose it!
Thus the problem with Calvinism.
If God picked folks "specifically for hell", no opportunity for redemption, then wouldn't He be the author of evil?
Ya no, can't work that way my friends.
Jesus is coming and coming back soon!
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That is NOT what so called "Calvinist's" believe. God did not pick people specifically for Hell.
Read John 3:18, 36...everyone that does not believe is condemned & the Wrath of God abides on them....God did not pick folks specifically to go to Hell, because all were already going because "All have sinned & fall short of the Glory of God"- Rom.3:23....
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.-Rom.3:10-12....
so, God doesn't pick folks to specifically go to hell, He specifically chose to save some of the folks that deserved hell, by His Grace, for His Glory & Good pleasure....a remnant, for Himself, by gifting them the faith to believe (entrust their life) in His Son, Jesus Christ THE Righteous & the only One born of Woman that Deserves to be with God.
God created the opportunity to sin
I’m sure you’ve heard people say the opposite and I’ve heard them use a verse that says God created it, but I think it was used out of context, idk 🤷♂️
I have a better question why did God created Angels if they know the consequences of sins since there is freedom the Almighty can literally skip Angels and create human instead
Why did God create you? If you are going to fail why not just skip you? Or me? Or anyone that willl fail?
Jezz u do know Satan came from angels right ? Skip the creation of the angels entirely .
The caused of history will change perhaps? But I'm pretty sure even without Angels and Satan we will still sins eventually .
Maybe this time around eve will be the tempter instead
@@jensonho3968 Satan was also an Angel, and yeah ... no matter the sequence, the who was created or who wasn't the results would end up being the same, why?? because the same reason you put at the end... one of the side effects of "free will" is that when things go wrong we try to blame someone else for our own decisions, when we sin... there is no one to blame but us, yet we continue to try to blame Satan, or whoever... when Sin started... he made his decision, he decided to separate himself from God, same as Adam and Eve.... same as you and me every day.. so each one of us are exactly the same... the question is, who is still willing to seek back to God for forgiveness, every day... every time we sin, with an honest repentance, not trying to blame someone or something for what you did...
I'mma confused. God created everythang.
dont forget the free will part
@@Your_Best_Self yeap! He created free will too.
@@immasista6537 but that dont mean he created sin
He did
Answer: Yes
Okay, but how do you support that conclusion?
@@deanfry879 God created the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
@@deanfry879 ”I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.“
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
@@Kilospan5941 And that tree is good. Some want to accuse God of creating evil so they can accuse Him of being evil. But on that basis, every lawmaker and every novelist is also evil. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is good because law allows a distinction between them. But it was not God's will we should live by law, but rather by promise, that is, the Tree of Life. The Tree of Life was temporarily taken away from us so we could have opportunity to not live forever in sin. And that tree will be given back to those who believe Jesus is Lord and risen from the dead to cover our disobedience. By pronouncing the creation to be good, something else is then bad or evil. But God does not have to be evil to call something good. And He does not have to be evil to make a law. For lawmakers to be evil because of lawmaking, they have to make a law in conflict to God, otherwise not. And novelists can have evil characters in their stories without that making them evil.
So while I believe God created evil, I do not draw the same conclusions about God some do. I also believe it is theoretically possible there could have been no evil committed on earth to this day, even though it exists.
@@Kilospan5941The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is not sin. Disobeying God and eating from it when He instructed them not to is!
Bro. This is a YES or NO question. Stop all these waste talks. Understand the question first before answering. The answer is YES. GOD created Sin. HE created everything visible or invisible, actions and consequences. A kid can understand this very well......
OK. NO. God did not create sin. Sin literally means "to miss the mark"....like a bullseye on a target. The "mark" is Perfection, as God is Perfect.(Mt.5:48)....God did not create sin...sin is not a "it", or a thing, it is disobedience to God. Jesus lived the life of total obedience. He was tempted in every way that we are tempted, yet without sin (Heb.4:15)
Mr. Sandman. Sin is something in existence, therefore it is either"it" or something. Nothing can make nothing. GOD created everything. There is no such things called Light without darkens, so there is no such thing called Holiness without sin. That's my understanding Bro. To GOD be the Glory.
@@lovecenter16143 Which God are you referring to? 🤔....Did God Create Plastic?...or did He create the elements that make plastic? Did God Create the Atom Bomb?...Or was it, that He created the Atoms & gave man the capacity to figure out how to split an atom?...
God Created Man WITHOUT sin, in His Own Image. The ability to think, reason, create, etc. Man had the capacity to sin...i.e....Disobey God. Man (Adam) Chose to do so, thus sin entered the world. It is not a created thing. It is the fruit of disobedience.
...and that is my understanding & the account given in Genesis....God created "everything" in 6 days & called everything He created GOOD...without imperfection...& then HE RESTED on the 7th day from His Work...it was done!...and there was no sin.
Great explanation. But what we are discussing here is who created Sin, not the fruits and vegetables. As you rightly said above, GOD gave the man the ability to sin or disobey which in turn produces sin. You are absolutely correct. There is something in existence called sin, even before we disobey. Who put that thing in place or in existence?.
@@lovecenter16143 The fallen Angel, formerly known as Lucifer, who was created to Serve God. In his pride, he rebelled against God.
Yahweh is not like pagan deities, or the false gods of false religions, who are created in the image of man, with the characteristics of man.
Numbers 23:19-
God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?
God Created the angels with "free will", in His Own Image, with the capacity to disobey(sin). 1/3 of them did. They now have no "free will" and are cursed. Man (Adam) was created with "free wll" & like Satan, chose to disobey God with Adam's free will, bringing sin into the world & a curse upon humanity...and the loss of their free will.
God gave man the capacity to disobey, which is what we call sin...putting SELF before God & others. It .
God allowed sin, but He did not create it, as it is not in His essence & character.
God Hates sin, but allowed it for His Glory.