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Комментарии • 410

  • @RedRebel008
    @RedRebel008 2 месяца назад +270

    Keerthy History is the Reason I subscribed to Vimoh 😂😂

    • @piposcat
      @piposcat 2 месяца назад +9

      Lol yeah. I love seeing people diss her.

    • @hasanraghib
      @hasanraghib 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, we're in the same boat 😄
      the first video I watched of Vimoh was about her

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +2

      Even this guy is lier and he is also biased

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@hasanraghibEven this guy is also lier

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@piposcatEven this guy is lier.He is defending the historian who praised aurangazeb.

  • @digdogma
    @digdogma 2 месяца назад +202

    keerthi is playing with indian sentiments, regardless of the facts
    because that’s how you can get views

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +3

      Well even this guy is doing the same thing in the name of fake atheism.

    • @niloytesla
      @niloytesla 2 месяца назад +2

      @@tejasa8429 how?

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +1

      @@niloytesla He is telling charvaka school of taught as not atheism.
      He is blindly defending this western historian who has glorified monster like aurangazeb.

    • @niloytesla
      @niloytesla 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@tejasa8429 sorry, could you please clarify.

    • @tejasa8429
      @tejasa8429 2 месяца назад +2

      @@niloytesla Charvaka is school of taught in Hinduism which accepts atheism.This youtuber told lies that charvaka is not true atheism.
      The western historian whom this youtuber is defending has glorified aurangazeb.
      This guy in the name of fake atheism is targeting Hinduism only.

  • @ShobhitGupta12
    @ShobhitGupta12 2 месяца назад +103

    Keerthi is like a female avatar of Praveen Mohan.

    • @user-vu5xs1pz2l
      @user-vu5xs1pz2l 2 месяца назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @akashshukla7
      @akashshukla7 2 месяца назад +3

      🤣🤣yaad dila di tumne uski, abhi dekhta hun kya chal rha h uske channel pe

    • @akashshukla7
      @akashshukla7 2 месяца назад

      bhai abhi dekha, uske videos ki length ab 45min ke aas paas ho gayi hai, launda kafi mehnat kar rha h

    • @akashshukla7
      @akashshukla7 2 месяца назад

      hey, do you think Praveen Mohan has a fake accent?

    • @akashshukla7
      @akashshukla7 2 месяца назад +1

      Humko lagta hai Praveen ka pura game foreigners ko attract karne ka hai, tabhi toh channel ka revenue badhega

  • @antonydsilva4025
    @antonydsilva4025 2 месяца назад +150

    Keerthi has a problem with everything, except with her jingoism.
    She's a 'problem child' ! 😂

  • @y1.5
    @y1.5 2 месяца назад +199

    People need to understand that gupta Empires (which were Buddhists) and todays Gupta people has no connection.. today's gupta people just stole their name for surname. In British Era ✅

    • @sanjay59741
      @sanjay59741 2 месяца назад +20

      There are some Gupta's who are claiming that they are descendants of the Gupta rulers? 🙄

    • @YuezhiTribe
      @YuezhiTribe 2 месяца назад +8

      Haina ! And we Budhhists too agree that they weren't all that important

    • @DisProfundis
      @DisProfundis 2 месяца назад

      Guptas were Buddhists? 😂Another product of failed education.

    • @DisProfundis
      @DisProfundis 2 месяца назад

      @@YuezhiTribe You're most probably psuedo-Buddhist Ambedkarite, who has nothing to do with Buddhism.

    • @rajashah1353
      @rajashah1353 2 месяца назад +12

      What the F Gupta consider they self Kshatriya 🤣

  • @myselfsalku7736
    @myselfsalku7736 2 месяца назад +66

    Keerthy history's all claims for Gupta period is taking from a competitive book called "Lucent"😅😅

    • @kamleshnarayan3286
      @kamleshnarayan3286 2 месяца назад +5

      😂😂😂 100%

    • @sagarhp2350
      @sagarhp2350 2 месяца назад +4

      Yess ., 😅😅 should check even if its in the same order

  • @maymak87
    @maymak87 2 месяца назад +63

    I blocked keerti history since she used to make her videos sitting diagonally to the camera.

    • @fazer79
      @fazer79 2 месяца назад +7

      Now that is not forgivable!

    • @affren3148
      @affren3148 2 месяца назад +7

      Yep the gravest of her crimes😂

    • @sainarockz
      @sainarockz Месяц назад

      Hahahahah

    • @DivyanshKherde
      @DivyanshKherde 22 дня назад

      😮

  • @userjamjet23
    @userjamjet23 2 месяца назад +205

    Keerti history is the worst history channel
    Edit : Keerti history is the worst channel in the history

    • @sandeepsuman6381
      @sandeepsuman6381 2 месяца назад +19

      You consider her channel as a history channel

    • @montechristoJr
      @montechristoJr 2 месяца назад +30

      Its not history channel its a propaganda channel

    • @SugaNuna-pw7dv
      @SugaNuna-pw7dv 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@sandeepsuman6381 i think he wanted to say, "worst channel in the history", but typo got him😂

    • @Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam
      @Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam 2 месяца назад +7

      Exactly, just a propaganda channel

    • @nohandler1493
      @nohandler1493 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@SugaNuna-pw7dv😂😂😂 thats a good one

  • @phreakydad
    @phreakydad 2 месяца назад +18

    A group of people beating drums locked up inside an echo chamber and claiming that the only sound in the world is of beating drums.

  • @anubhavnegi4230
    @anubhavnegi4230 2 месяца назад +34

    vimoh's video in short
    A controversy arose involving Keerthi History and Audrey Truschke, who wrote a book on South Asian history. Truschke, in a lecture, mentioned she doesn’t focus on dynasties like the Gupta or Chola because many other historians already do, preferring to explore what life was like for ordinary people.
    Keerthi History cut a clip from this lecture, presenting it out of context to suggest that Truschke dismissed the Gupta dynasty’s achievements entirely. Keerthi History then highlighted the Gupta period’s accomplishments, such as the invention of the decimal system, in an attempt to refute Truschke.
    Two main issues with Keerthi History’s video are:
    1. Attributing achievements like the invention of the decimal system directly to the ruling dynasty is misleading, as these developments often reflect broader societal progress rather than just the rulers’ actions.
    2. The video misrepresented Truschke’s lecture by taking her comments out of context, potentially driven by personal bias against her.

  • @deepikasingh7634
    @deepikasingh7634 2 месяца назад +23

    And also in gupta period women condition not well and castism increases. Source - tamil nadu class 11 book

    • @gobimurugesan2411
      @gobimurugesan2411 2 месяца назад +1

      Every historian knows this

    • @gobimurugesan2411
      @gobimurugesan2411 2 месяца назад

      @@ayushgupta4376 Just because ur a Gupta ur defending here...lol

  • @combinatorics1224
    @combinatorics1224 2 месяца назад +24

    Guptas were as important to India's history as Tang or Han dynasty of Chinese history. Sanskrit changed from Vedic Sanskritam to Dhrupadi Sanskrit. Trade roots were expanded, agriculture flourished, decentralized civil administration came to existence, Nalanada Baudh Bihar strengthened study of Buddhist philosophy, Hindu philosophy and astronomy. Trigonometry with Bhaskara 2's sine approximations were derived. Courts were divides from district to province level. So yeah Guptas are important. As an indian atheist who loves his nation than any religion, I will say that Guptas have importance in indian history. Similarly we must keep in mind that Guptas enjoyed prosperity as the Muarians and Shungas strengthened agriculture and rule of law. But some evil practices like Varna discrimination, Sati came into existence in late Gupta period which was not cool at all.

    • @basantprasadsgarden8365
      @basantprasadsgarden8365 2 месяца назад

      I think comparing Guptas to Hans will be an overstatement because Hans were remembered long after their decline in China and their Empirical and Ethnic legacy continued, while after the decline of Guptas, nobody remembered them up until their Signs were rediscovered by the British.

    • @combinatorics1224
      @combinatorics1224 2 месяца назад +11

      @@basantprasadsgarden8365 In China, there were no large scale destruction of infrastructure or foreign attacks. After the Mongol attacks when the Mongol Yuan dynasty ruled China, they repaired and restored many buildings. Same is case for Japan. The Ashikaga Shogunate rebuilt structures of Kamakura Shogunate and Hojo Clan even after defeating and destroying their clans. Same was case for the Tokugawa... they didn't destroy all castles of their enemies... infact Tokugawa Hidetada rebuilt many of those broken castles. So the later kings didn't remember Guptas that much because their inscriptions, mansions everything were nearly destroyed by the late Pushyavuti and Maukhari dynasties.

    • @combinatorics1224
      @combinatorics1224 2 месяца назад +6

      @@basantprasadsgarden8365 I am not comparing Hans with Guptas, sir. I am comparing their importance.

    • @basantprasadsgarden8365
      @basantprasadsgarden8365 2 месяца назад

      @@combinatorics1224 even in that context, Guptas were just a major dynasty in the unstable landscape of the later ancient period. Their contributions are significant, though not that much as they are credited for.

    • @combinatorics1224
      @combinatorics1224 2 месяца назад +1

      @@basantprasadsgarden8365 True 👍

  • @vikey542
    @vikey542 2 месяца назад +5

    Hey uncle! She wasn't giving all credits to Guptas, she was stating that all that happened during the Gupta's 'period'
    (Period) (literatures, all the inventions, art & architecture),
    Travelogues of Hiuen Tsang(xuanzang) & Faxian are important to know the history of India, and it happened during Guptas 'period' , and even if you want to focus on 'ground level social changes' then Xuanzang & Faxian's travelogues are more important. She wasn't giving credits what I mentioned above to Guptas but stating that the 'period' was important.

    • @technicalist101
      @technicalist101 7 дней назад

      100% right, the youtuber and the commenters have no clue what objectivity is. Vimoh never made any coherent point. Keerthi's only mistake was she kept Sushrutha in gupta era, rest all were correct.

  • @shubhamraj5140
    @shubhamraj5140 2 месяца назад +33

    She is an actual historian while keerti is simply a youtube historian .

    • @anonymous_4276
      @anonymous_4276 Месяц назад

      Yes for God's sake what gives these RUclips historians the qualifications to challenge scholars without even properly looking into their works or using their words out of context. Truly shows how these jingoists are a bunch of ignorant morons.

    • @harshbharti-tp4yk
      @harshbharti-tp4yk Месяц назад +1

      She(Audrey) is very biased historian who tried to hide and defend the Aurangzeb's brutality and ruthlessness .
      So a historian who can show a demon as a neutral figure can't be trusted . It's the same as defending the criminal in modern time by saying that he got reasons.

    • @technicalist101
      @technicalist101 7 дней назад

      Yup, an actual historian who doesn't know the true name of the nazi Hooked cross symbol, so meritocratic huh?😅😅

    • @hhhgj-wd1iy
      @hhhgj-wd1iy 5 дней назад

      ​@@harshbharti-tp4yk bro every ruler has been brutal to some extent. Go read about Aurangzeb and read from multiple sources.

  • @SaikatBasak
    @SaikatBasak 2 месяца назад +34

    I'll take this video as book recommendations.

    • @HUMASAJIDALI
      @HUMASAJIDALI 2 месяца назад

      Did you understand which book has this lady written on which this whole debate started?

  • @CallmeTomorrow65
    @CallmeTomorrow65 2 месяца назад +13

    What is this obsession of historians to condense indian history in a single book ?

    • @supernovic99
      @supernovic99 2 месяца назад +5

      They don't condense the entirety of indian history, only the basics or important periods of it. I mean to be fair, our history books do it worse in school

    • @adityabansal7809
      @adityabansal7809 2 месяца назад

      Ummm, what is the problem?

  • @nibeditamandal16
    @nibeditamandal16 2 месяца назад +6

    Exactly this video was needed .. Dynastic history is the whole history !.. No socio political history , socio- economic , administrative history , religious history etc there are so many aspect of a particular time period in history.. but we always go only for Dynastic history . The problem is we don't question " why , how and from where the person who is spitting something " ... If we do so every question can be answered.

  • @StalinKorgaonkar
    @StalinKorgaonkar 2 месяца назад +9

    Glad you are uploading back on this channel vimoh, do make Stream highlight's or the best moments from stream available here.

  • @fishyfish6510
    @fishyfish6510 2 месяца назад +5

    She is a good business woman😂She has her product and she knows her buyers and how to advertise it. Even won awards because of her strategy

  • @ddnick
    @ddnick 2 месяца назад +5

    I stopped watching her when she literally denied the existence of castiesm from Indian history n said Britishers n Mughals started casteism 🥴

    • @RAMTA_SLAYER
      @RAMTA_SLAYER 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂that’s Ramta cooked up history

  • @uddiptalukdar
    @uddiptalukdar 2 месяца назад +3

    109% sure Keerthi did not even see the original video. Because that would be history study.

  • @criticalpsyche
    @criticalpsyche 2 месяца назад +15

    she may be talking about subaltern part of history.

  • @rommelbengali
    @rommelbengali 2 месяца назад +14

    Keerti is so insecure.

  • @TheOggy1988
    @TheOggy1988 2 месяца назад +53

    Guptas are Hindus??😂😂😂 That influencer is totaly insane

    • @rommelbengali
      @rommelbengali 2 месяца назад +9

      They weren't?

    • @y1.5
      @y1.5 2 месяца назад +34

      Gupta's were Buddhists

    • @y1.5
      @y1.5 2 месяца назад +18

      @@rommelbengali they were Buddhists

    • @TheOggy1988
      @TheOggy1988 2 месяца назад +25

      @@rommelbengali they all are buddhists. Even the Chanakya was a imaginary character.

    • @rommelbengali
      @rommelbengali 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheOggy1988Fr?

  • @lakshay7901
    @lakshay7901 2 месяца назад +2

    I'd recommend Jay Vardhan's youtube channel for those who want to know how & when the Empires grew & declined in Ancient India. He's pretty Honest to the analysis based on authentic evidence available till date.
    Plus I wanted to know that don't you think the ruling Empires of a significantly large region have an imapct on the social, economic & cultural life of the people within the region. Don't you think that the Success of the Nalanda University had anything to do with the then Ruling Empires who provided good enough atmosphere for it's growth.
    So how could she neglect a powerful ruling Dynasty covering almost entire northern India at it's peak by saying that it's not that important at all and that too when Science & Mathematics boomed in that time.

    • @utkarshsingh-rp2dq
      @utkarshsingh-rp2dq Месяц назад

      I think she said that her focus is different than other historians.

  • @annupriya7875
    @annupriya7875 2 месяца назад +13

    Keerthi history girl looks so extremely insecure

    • @user-ke7iv3ff3l
      @user-ke7iv3ff3l 2 месяца назад

      @@annupriya7875 acharya prashant ko suna bhi karo

  • @Search957
    @Search957 3 дня назад

    History and politics are such type of topics in which you need to see things from different perspectives to get an overall understanding because there would always be people's motives or their biases hidden in it who are giving you the information

  • @JivanKumar007
    @JivanKumar007 2 месяца назад +21

    Enlightenment is when you understand "There was no such Hinduism thing before 8th century".🙏

    • @Samresponds
      @Samresponds 2 месяца назад

      Yes I agree because islamic emperors gave them penal court and personal court to solve their issues, so that pandits made their own religion for ruling .

    • @anasqureshi644
      @anasqureshi644 2 месяца назад

      a guy science journey also claim that but i think we still more and more evidence to reach to this conclusion because this statement is very bold and pathbreaking in itself even our ncert is teaching us about rigveda yajurveda etc

    • @AmarjitSingh-dhani
      @AmarjitSingh-dhani 2 месяца назад +2

      Hinduism as religion has came into existence during british period. Otherwise word Hindu used to mean person living east of river Sindhu or broadly between Himalaya and Hind mahasagar. Brahamavad developed after 8th century as a religion and replaced Budhism and Jainism due to royal patronage maybe.

    • @ipranayy
      @ipranayy 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes it was sanatan dharma

    • @JivanKumar007
      @JivanKumar007 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ipranayy "एस धम्मो सनातनो" ये पंक्ती बुद्ध की हैं. इससे पहले कोई सनातन वणातन नही था गुरु.
      हिंदू को सनातन बोलने की प्रथा पिछले 150 सालों की हैं.

  • @rishavraj5919
    @rishavraj5919 2 месяца назад +6

    Whatever the name of this lady (foreigner)
    Once i saw a video where she was poking her nose in Indian history and blaming Indian to be the most cruel in past that somewhere true also but she was exaggerating and a man stood up and show her true position😂😂

    • @kartik6023
      @kartik6023 Месяц назад

      He didn't respond to any argument and started some rant on native Americans which has nothing to do with the topic

    • @technicalist101
      @technicalist101 7 дней назад

      Yeah she doesn't know the real name and history of the nazi hooked cross lol.

  • @ElectricGuitarStyles
    @ElectricGuitarStyles 2 месяца назад +23

    Average Sanghi - Let’s twist the history and take credit for things we have no idea about.

  • @maharshijayswal1589
    @maharshijayswal1589 2 месяца назад +12

    That American Historian is the same Historian who said Aurangzeb was not cruel or he was Good king or something .

    • @RAMTA_SLAYER
      @RAMTA_SLAYER 2 месяца назад +16

      Upper castes enjoyed luxurious life under Mughals from being their commanders to advisors.
      So yes,he was not cruel against them but upper castes were cruel against their own fellow lower castes.
      Upper castes cruelty >>>>aurangzeb.

    • @anaesthete5592
      @anaesthete5592 2 месяца назад

      ​@@RAMTA_SLAYER still can't blame Mughals? Lol only upper castes were the bad guys

    • @PropioniBacteriumShermanii
      @PropioniBacteriumShermanii 2 месяца назад

      It's funny how you're ready to defend a tyrant our of hate for people of your own nation, sure do that you'll still be considered a kafir. ​@@RAMTA_SLAYER

    • @PropioniBacteriumShermanii
      @PropioniBacteriumShermanii 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@RAMTA_SLAYERDefending a tyrant out of hate for people of your own nation? So cool.

    • @RAMTA_SLAYER
      @RAMTA_SLAYER 2 месяца назад

      @@PropioniBacteriumShermanii go and ask the low castes why they are availing reservations and you will get your answer. Now,you wanna defend those oppressors just to make someone villain? So cool.

  • @gigachad6844
    @gigachad6844 2 месяца назад +11

    Mauryans literally
    1. Defeated Alexander's army (headed by Selucus Nikator)
    2. Made Akhand Bharat (largest Indian Empire)
    3. Largest GDP contribution Indian subcontinent ever gave
    4. Highest Indian global influence (spread of Buddhism from Afghanistan to Thailand)

    • @zakialmahin7278
      @zakialmahin7278 2 месяца назад +2

      Their narrowminded approach to history wouldn't comprehend that

    • @napoleonrabbit
      @napoleonrabbit 2 месяца назад

      The Hunas caused their destruction. Yet you blame the Muslims.

    • @FineWine-v4.0
      @FineWine-v4.0 2 месяца назад

      Waha GDP kyu apply kar rahe ho bhai ?

    • @KINGSTUNAX
      @KINGSTUNAX 2 месяца назад +1

      😂 India is the most invaded land on the planet earth

    • @KINGSTUNAX
      @KINGSTUNAX 2 месяца назад +1

      There is no largest Empire that India content

  • @punitsingh9069
    @punitsingh9069 Месяц назад

    I commented on that post, too, and all the facts she was stating, are so vague, and most of them not even have any relation with gupta empire, he banged my head against the wall, when I saw the video, litrely she made video, where she stated everything wrong. How clueless a person can be, I can't understand.

  • @funkysam1345
    @funkysam1345 2 месяца назад +1

    But that doesnt discount her statement about her saying they werent important in terms of changing the course of history. That is where the disagreement is being shown. u missed that part

  • @nirajgaming6131
    @nirajgaming6131 2 месяца назад

    You are doing a great job Vimoh sir, you are showing the blind followers the path of truth. I am also an atheist like you, please keep making videos about the reality of religion, whether anyone supports or not, I will support.

  • @HRC294
    @HRC294 2 месяца назад +11

    Okay. What was the context of Audrey calling Rama a misogynistic pig?

    • @fazer79
      @fazer79 2 месяца назад +11

      Offended? Great! Well, she said it because he denied to accept her as his wife after rescuing her! He compared her to the food touched by dog.

    • @HRC294
      @HRC294 2 месяца назад

      @@fazer79 Cool. Is Prophet Mohammed a pedophile?

    • @HRC294
      @HRC294 2 месяца назад +1

      @@36KACRE Hhmmm

    • @PropioniBacteriumShermanii
      @PropioniBacteriumShermanii 2 месяца назад

      Give citations for your claim please ​@@fazer79

    • @jagatsimulation
      @jagatsimulation 2 месяца назад

      ​@@HRC294 just listen to her and read her books you will understand she is paid historian from global muslim powers. If these people use just 1% of their brain they will understand about her intentions

  • @basantprasadsgarden8365
    @basantprasadsgarden8365 2 месяца назад +1

    If I would have to learn or hear about ancient history I would prefer to hear it from the Jay Vardhan Singh. His videos sound professional and he also quotes the Sources , both primary and secondary in his videos regarding the subject.
    Unlike Kriti History who only knows to create Strawman and Manipulated arguments.

  • @DiVa-ks2jg
    @DiVa-ks2jg 2 месяца назад +1

    First basic fact is that you know the most recent history best and it declines as you go farther past

  • @jack76thegamer30
    @jack76thegamer30 2 месяца назад +7

    sir can you reccomend some good books on history in general, voh google pe toh sab baiased reccomendation hote hai i need some real to truth history books of world, spesificaaly on eurasian civilization

    • @montechristoJr
      @montechristoJr 2 месяца назад +6

      There is no 'true' history books its always a gray area. As far as I understood history varies depending on who is saying it so read more than one book on a subject. For example read more than one book on Eurasian civilization and come to an conclusion by yourself. I would like to recommend 'A Political History of the World' by Jonathan Holslag its a good start have been reading for the last 8 months its good one(Though American history is discussed very less). He has given some book recommendations also based on each chapter.

    • @jack76thegamer30
      @jack76thegamer30 2 месяца назад +3

      @@montechristoJr thanks

    • @montechristoJr
      @montechristoJr 2 месяца назад

      @@jack76thegamer30 👍

    • @gamesong6600
      @gamesong6600 2 месяца назад

      Yes no true history books. Just ask for concrete evidence, else accept it as one plausible explanation and stay open.

    • @sauravsuresh6388
      @sauravsuresh6388 2 месяца назад +1

      Doesn't matter if they're biased. Just be aware of your own biases, so that you can evaluate those texts critically and analytically.

  • @VY-zt3ph
    @VY-zt3ph 2 месяца назад +1

    Sushruta lived during Gupta's period?? He lived in 7th century BC

  • @vijaykumarwali7509
    @vijaykumarwali7509 2 месяца назад +7

    both her and Ranveer use the same formula. roll out content that gets views. no matter how non credible it is

  • @sorryminati4719
    @sorryminati4719 2 месяца назад +20

    This Keerthi history girl is basically a professional victim

  • @AtharvPandey-kj1tq
    @AtharvPandey-kj1tq 2 месяца назад +13

    Everything is OK but if you're defending so called "historian" like Audrey, then you're literally cooked🕊

    • @NeKo19113
      @NeKo19113 2 месяца назад +5

      As someone who doesn't know who this white lady is... After watching the cut out vimoh's clip ... what's your take for defending keerthi here ??😅

    • @rare_red
      @rare_red 2 месяца назад +3

      Have you read her books fully? Or it's just that you're defending your favorite youtuber?

    • @mithilbhoras5951
      @mithilbhoras5951 2 месяца назад +5

      He is only defending one point Audrey made in that clip. That doesn't mean defending Audrey's entire work. You are mixing two different things here.

    • @suryamkishore4797
      @suryamkishore4797 2 месяца назад +1

      What else did you think the short was about? U really thought it had anything to do with Keerthi History? 😂
      My brother doesn't know how manipulation and propaganda works.. ❤

    • @katagiri_yuuichi_69
      @katagiri_yuuichi_69 2 месяца назад

      chup singhi ​@@suryamkishore4797

  • @mithilbhoras5951
    @mithilbhoras5951 2 месяца назад +1

    If Keerthi thinks history should only be told from the native's point of view (which is not really a bad thing), then we'll have to take the Itihaas and Puranas literally. You know... the books that talk about Samudramanthan or a large scale war between Devas and Asuras or an army of humanoid monkeys or any other such mythological stuff. And the fact that she doesn't even considered historians like Thapar or Habib as "natives" is kinda hypocritical.

  • @user-qn3mt1ui5h
    @user-qn3mt1ui5h 2 месяца назад +3

    Vimoh sir plzz wrote a book on Atheism ❤️⚛️.

  • @rishabhshrivastava6290
    @rishabhshrivastava6290 2 месяца назад +1

    It's irony that she has history in the name of her channel

  • @BatmAn06091992
    @BatmAn06091992 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh. And one more point. Romila Thapar is a "native".

  • @Viveera2024
    @Viveera2024 2 месяца назад

    Thank you so much for addressing. Keerthi history tends to time and again lose context and nuance. I frankly do want to believe what she says for pride and ego sake " we are so great" trope. But then unfortunately we also have a logical mind.

  • @kalyanimookherji8834
    @kalyanimookherji8834 2 месяца назад +2

    Very aptly explained and rebutted!

  • @rajashashankgutta4334
    @rajashashankgutta4334 2 месяца назад

    Even if we don't want to do go through dynasties, even then gupta period is worth more than 2 Paras for the sheer cultural legacy it left.

  • @roccosins2916
    @roccosins2916 Месяц назад +1

    Keerthi was right. Seems uncle wanna get some limelight thats why opposing it. Watched both video. Keethi is right.
    And rhe logic she gives. There is alreadty lot of books on indian kings like gupta so yhats why she focus on focus. Lol. In parallel universe aunty.
    Seems uncle wanted pink so trying to defend her. Nahi degi uncle.

  • @Earth_Being
    @Earth_Being 2 месяца назад +1

    "Rocky ne rock pe rocket rakha" bolo 💀🤌

  • @Abuzar_Ibn_Rashid.
    @Abuzar_Ibn_Rashid. 2 месяца назад

    Vimoh sir I will be happy if I would ever get a session or a normal discussion in case if you come live on any application and on you tube. However it will be a good and beneficial for all of us to have exhcange of ideas and concepts through friendly and fruitful discussion from different views culture religion theism science and history from a academic perspective.

  • @soulsurin4318
    @soulsurin4318 2 месяца назад

    Hey Vimoh I just wanna tell u that u should invite christian debater Dr. John Lennox,(he's a professor of Oxford University) Kent Hovind and Dr.william Lane Craig . please invite them to discuss about Christianity and its belief

  • @Mksmoodi
    @Mksmoodi 2 месяца назад +1

    Keerthi's mother tongue is not tamil although she was raised in Tamilnadu. But she fakes and creates an illusion like she is a Tamil in her interviews. If you are a marati, and if you are born in a punjab , that doesn't make you a punjab. She camouflages herself as a Tamilian.

  • @gobimurugesan2411
    @gobimurugesan2411 2 месяца назад

    For anyone wondering y conservatives always likes Gupta empire. During the Gupta Empire caste system become official. Officially mixing caste become sin. Manu smriti like casteist rules become part of government laws.

  • @manujohn99
    @manujohn99 2 месяца назад +5

    Why is this important to us???

    • @adityabansal7809
      @adityabansal7809 2 месяца назад +1

      Wdym? Why history is important?

    • @manujohn99
      @manujohn99 2 месяца назад +1

      @@adityabansal7809 where is history????

    • @rare_red
      @rare_red 2 месяца назад

      "Misinformation is killing india"

    • @jagatsimulation
      @jagatsimulation 2 месяца назад

      ​@@manujohn99 indian history wrote by white dudes

    • @adityabansal7809
      @adityabansal7809 Месяц назад

      @@manujohn99 If you mean where to study "true" history from, I believe the best way to study history is to read the books of multiple authors, identify their(and possibly your) biases, and choose the lesser of the two evils, ig.

  • @Vn44630
    @Vn44630 19 дней назад

    Finally someone talk about her ignorance

  • @Seriouslyfunny1
    @Seriouslyfunny1 2 месяца назад +1

    There are different ways to approach history, but i dont agree woth the view that history is solely about the natives. Afterall, you won't find the history of red Indians in American history, or say, the Australian aborigines or New Zealander Maoris, would you ?
    It's equally important to study who ruled the country.
    There are two ways a society changes: one way is bottom up where change starts from the ground root upwards, for example the spread of Buddhism or for that matter, any religion.
    Then there's another change that is imposed from top down. Like institutionalising the caste system within state by the 1871 census and state employment policies of British, or the Mansabdari and Zamindari system of Mughals.
    Without understanding the background and influences of the rulers, you won't be able to understand what actually caused a top-down change in society.
    Now whether Guptas were great or not, i leave it to the individuals to decide. But as far as cultural renaissance and achievements are concerned, Guptas have contributed much more to our tangible anient heritage than any other ruling class.
    The reason why everyone knows the name of Kalidas or the existing ancient ayurvedic texts, it's because of the Gupta's patronage.
    They may not be the sole contributors to Indian heritage, but let's not belittle them by discrediting their achievements.

  • @kumarnarayana5105
    @kumarnarayana5105 2 месяца назад +1

    Tum karo to leela !
    Dusre kare to chedkhani ?

  • @charankb638
    @charankb638 2 месяца назад

    @vimoh History of the people vs History of the rulers. How much will it(dichotomy)be relevant during british rule or mughal rule in india? Need to resolve that first and then we can go back thousands of years.

  • @Vath098
    @Vath098 2 месяца назад

    I agree with ur view on most part except considering Truschke and Thapar as a reliable sources of information. They writes biased version of past and hence is unreliable. Read books by scholars who do not mix their politics in their works.

  • @krillin3350
    @krillin3350 2 месяца назад

    Hi bro, Can you please make a video mythology of Indo-European languages family? For example scholars say Indra, Dyaus pitr, Surya, Agni, ashwin are all common in Indo-European language speakers.

  • @pratima8319
    @pratima8319 2 месяца назад +1

    A GOOD VIDEO THANKS FOR CREATING A GOOD KNOWLEDGABLE VIDEO THAN OTHERS

  • @prem5958
    @prem5958 2 месяца назад

    Hey vimoh so as we debate, we respect other's opinions and don't force them to believe us, right? So in our (atheist's) imaginary ideal world, where everyone will be happy and in good position, will religious opinions exist?

  • @user-cl9bd1tz3b
    @user-cl9bd1tz3b 2 месяца назад

    Just read your University Undergraduate History course if anyone is fascinated with history and you will be covered Social Political Economic Monarchic scientific literature Art and Architectural form of History Regarding Nanda's Maurya's Gupta's Chola's Pallava's Vatakata's Tripartite Struggle Rajput Dynasties Delhi Sultanate Mughal Empire and British India Post world war - 2 Nationalistic movements and Independence post Independence all in One Go
    You can just download resources from DU websites of all semesters 1-6 of History and there you Go and then Read all the Authors and their Views if you think that our Curriculum is influenced by Marxism or left ideology read them thorolgy by buying there books or from kuku FM audio version and then if you want to read Right leaning then that also after consiming so much time you will finally have a mixed take regarding History at some places Right leaning people are correct and at some places left ideolgy is better to approach the history so that you can clearly see through all the biases that's the best way you can go up with.

  • @AnkitThengal
    @AnkitThengal 2 месяца назад

    O:24 is that a mad women
    Northeast was never part of any Indian kingdom their natives rulers were there😂😂😂

  • @jayantamukherjee1980
    @jayantamukherjee1980 2 месяца назад

    The person who didn't study say Physics after 10th grade, usually doesn't pretend to be a Physicist publicly. But the problem with History is even an engineer by training can publicly pretend to be a Historian! History is a serious subject and it has its own methods of study. Any person who is interested in History should first study Historiography. Otherwise they will be confused between Literature and History. History tries to model the past of human civilization as Economics tries to model the present. As Economics does not always have to be normative, History also has no obligation to be inspiring. But contemporary politics always tries to mend the native history in a way that suits their purpose. This is a trap. We need to free the study of native History from politically motivated ambitions of its natives. It is true for every society, not only for India.

  • @SandeepKumar-op2cn
    @SandeepKumar-op2cn 2 месяца назад

    this american historian follows 'hit and run' strategy

  • @zakialmahin7278
    @zakialmahin7278 2 месяца назад +2

    Vimoh what do you think about the allegorical view of religion some theists present for example in abrahamic faiths the Adam and eve part is not True in the literal sense but is allegorical like eve forming out of Adams ribcage signifying that a male and a female are dependant on one and another. Same could be said of the Mahabharata like everything written there is one big allegory or moral dilemma. But still they claim through this allegory the divinity had tried to guide mankind to a stable and ordered society. There are also those who argue that religion doesn't create morality but rather it enforces morality to all because a common folk is not literate enough to contemplate the moral dilemma and thought.Thus they claim religion is completely different from science as it is a tool to express philosophy, simple moral guidance to dilemma and general way of living life and establishing stability and social relations in the society. I know this is very rare inainstream religion but I still see it happening. A hindu once said to me that he takes mahabharata and ramayana as philosophy and not literal history or literal truth. I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter.

  • @barnaliadhikary2045
    @barnaliadhikary2045 2 месяца назад +1

    Keerthika Govindhasamy ( content maker of keerthi history) is a good person overall...but the problem is she seems to be a paid RW activist like many or an active member of BJP IT cell... With the mission of propagating RW propaganda...

  • @raks...
    @raks... 2 месяца назад

    Hello bhai. Can you please make a video on Beerbicep bringing archeologists like Nilesh Oak with some proofs ? I am even not sure he is archelogist as per his linkedin account.

  • @dipankarpaul756
    @dipankarpaul756 2 месяца назад

    Hi Vimoh, what is your view on Nihilism? Is an agnostic atheist a nihilist?

  • @jimmorrison90
    @jimmorrison90 2 месяца назад

    I said to my grandmother that god doesn't exist. She said that"abhi tak aisi ko machine bani hai kya jisme ek seed dalo to bohot sare seeds aur crops bahar ate hai" 😅.

  • @eelongMast
    @eelongMast 2 месяца назад +7

    decided not to get married is already a first sign of Intelligence and high IQ.

  • @tarangdhuware4753
    @tarangdhuware4753 2 месяца назад

    🙏Please make a video on why there is a shiv natraja statue at cern lab

  • @sirat-al-mustaqimbyshahabs1418
    @sirat-al-mustaqimbyshahabs1418 2 месяца назад +1

    Vimoh you should read books by dr mubarak ali on history

  • @dhanush4792
    @dhanush4792 Месяц назад +2

    Keerthi History ❌ Keerthi's History ✅🤡

  • @Kjhlllllll
    @Kjhlllllll Месяц назад

    Can we be just Indians, not guptas choudharys khans chakrabortys jaats singhs etc etc

  • @godas55
    @godas55 2 месяца назад +2

    Guptas period is ofcourse the golden age for the Manuvadis.

  • @KuldeepSingh-cm3oe
    @KuldeepSingh-cm3oe Месяц назад

    Humaare desh ko sabse bada khatra pseudo science waalo aur padhe likhe wo log jo jaan boojh k fake things failaate hai unse hai.

  • @subhranshushekharpatra7198
    @subhranshushekharpatra7198 2 месяца назад

    Abki yoga controversy pe aap kya kehna chahenge aur iske liye samaj ko kaise sudhara ja sakta hai aap ka kya ray hai pls ispe video banaiye

  • @PeterParker-kt7iv
    @PeterParker-kt7iv 2 месяца назад +2

    Keep it up 🙏

  • @joyveigas8603
    @joyveigas8603 2 месяца назад

    Keethi History
    Is A Self-Claimed
    Historian 😂

  • @PawanRajput-fn8xf
    @PawanRajput-fn8xf 2 месяца назад

    The right to say "God doesn't exist" belongs only to those who have the answer to every question.

  • @RobinLWolf
    @RobinLWolf 2 месяца назад

    Playing with people too much. Why is she telling people to care about empires while living in an independent country

  • @Sagar-vw9ud
    @Sagar-vw9ud 2 месяца назад +2

    U call yourself atheist but most of it videos on Hinduism why not Islam n Christianity. I agree every religion has drawbacks but make videos on Islam n Christianity. Let's see your courage😅

    • @vimoh
      @vimoh  2 месяца назад +2

      Already have

    • @日本語大好き
      @日本語大好き 2 месяца назад +1

      Where is the video about hinduism? Aren't we debunking misinformation peddler people?

    • @Sagar-vw9ud
      @Sagar-vw9ud 2 месяца назад

      @@vimoh but not the way u do about Hinduism deep digging n scrutinizing about each in every minute things of Hinduism. Because even u know that u may get death threat when u criticise Islam deeper. U criticise Islam in the shadow of Hinduism saying that it's applies to Islam also. U r pseudo atheist just here to criticise Hinduism. I welcome if u criticise n scrutiny also religion according to their religious text. Hope u do it. Have some courage.

    • @jagatsimulation
      @jagatsimulation 2 месяца назад

      Indian atheism and liberalism means shittin on hinduism for no reason and loving radical Abrahamic religions

  • @Vaibhavgangwar2mm
    @Vaibhavgangwar2mm 2 месяца назад +3

    okay so what is the point of this video?

    • @rommelbengali
      @rommelbengali 2 месяца назад +16

      That Keerti is a lier.

    • @ChrisSamuel1729
      @ChrisSamuel1729 2 месяца назад +5

      If you don’t think this video has as fine a point, do watch other videos on the topic of the propagandizing of history and caricaturing of historians by South Asian right wing RUclipsrs.
      This video was not meant to be the first or last word on this topic.
      Please watch other, perhaps more substantial videos by Vimoh or even other even-keeled commentators on this topic (Science is Dope, perhaps).
      Or, even better, go read Romila Thapar’s book.

    • @MischiefL0ki
      @MischiefL0ki 2 месяца назад +6

      that Keerti has played the game of victimhood once again

    • @fushhiii
      @fushhiii 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@MischiefL0ki isn't that what vimoh did right here?

    • @adityabansal7809
      @adityabansal7809 2 месяца назад

      @@fushhiii Ummmm, when did Vimoh pretend to be a victim?

  • @sabyasachimukherjee2465
    @sabyasachimukherjee2465 2 месяца назад

    Keerti history is basically a RUclips version of WhatsApp University History.

  • @rahuldey4191
    @rahuldey4191 2 месяца назад +1

    Bhaiya ap kuch sirf hindu supporter ko terget kar video banate ho lekin ap dusre religion wale pe video kyun nehi banate ho😅😊

    • @vimoh
      @vimoh  2 месяца назад

      Banata hoon. Channel dekho bhai

    • @mustafakhan9859
      @mustafakhan9859 18 дней назад

      Islam pe kuch nhi ganya chutiyw​@@vimoh

  • @salilgirkar7536
    @salilgirkar7536 22 дня назад

    History is manipulative subject

  • @MaroonRays
    @MaroonRays 2 месяца назад

    Rathert then taegeting keerthy for views can you target ncert fragmented history 🙂

    • @suryamkishore4797
      @suryamkishore4797 2 месяца назад

      No IT cell would pay for that. He has to take care of his income! 🤡

  • @arjun111
    @arjun111 2 месяца назад

    Science journey channel pe india ki history hai real

    • @technicalist101
      @technicalist101 7 дней назад

      That is a nonsensical channel which doesn't even know how to date a book vs how to date a rock lol.

    • @arjun111
      @arjun111 7 дней назад

      @@technicalist101 tumhare liye sandas samiksha channel hai whi dekho bahit fact based channel hai😂🤣🤡

  • @r.c.cffindia7230
    @r.c.cffindia7230 2 месяца назад +6

    Please speak hindi please tbi to ham sb ko samajhane me asani hogi

    • @rommelbengali
      @rommelbengali 2 месяца назад +5

      Bhai English itni bhi kathin bhasha nahi hai.

    • @supernovic99
      @supernovic99 2 месяца назад +3

      Hindi's isn't india's national language. There are many indians like me who are interested in his videos but don't know hindi. It is better for him to make videos in english

  • @lakshyaphogat7388
    @lakshyaphogat7388 2 месяца назад

    Gupta 's were Vishnu bhakts

  • @kunalroy9735
    @kunalroy9735 2 месяца назад

    She's a Tamil RSS face

  • @hemanthkumar5438
    @hemanthkumar5438 2 месяца назад

    Whenever I see Keerthi, I just exit youtube.

  • @AbhishekPatel-wm1cc
    @AbhishekPatel-wm1cc 2 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @godas55
    @godas55 2 месяца назад

    KEERTI is the Voice of Sanghis

  • @AbhaySingh-dv2yu
    @AbhaySingh-dv2yu 2 месяца назад +1

    Sir 1 long vedio on J Sai Deepak hindutva activist