This was really useful, thanks a lot Mark. I would love to see a similar video focussing on mixing piano (either solo or as part of a trio/larger band). I always seem to struggle with this. Thanks again
Great video and very interesting. But one thing you didn't mention--- there's a huge difference in the sound of a bass with gut strings, and a bass with steel or nylon strings. Personally I love the classic gut string sound that so many great jazz bassists have used. And the quality of their instrument is also an enormous factor as well.
Really useful ! I love the way you understand the instrument, some people just cut everything but the bass sounds of the bass... Bass player speaking btw. Tough, I didn't understand the use of the compressor to shape the tone. But it is my favorite step in your process ! Do you have any video or page to advice on that topic ? ( I already know how to use a compressor to shape the dynamics ). Thanks!
Hello! I´ve a question. Is the Bass Sub a Return Channel? idk how you send the signal of the bass channel to the sub bass chnl. Thank you! Great content
Amazing video! Thank you so much! I'm an upright player and getting started on recording in my home studio. You mentioned that you might do a video on recording the upright, is that still a possibility?
I love your videos, how nice to see a real professional and not a plugin seller. I hope you can help me with a question, I've seen bad comments about the Iron compressor that you use for generating too much aliasing! Another myth about aliasing?! Thank you very much
Thanks. Its true that SPL Iron looks like one hell of a mess in plugin doctor. But the strange thing is, it sounds good. Which just goes to show I guess that aliasing isn't always bad. Dan Worral is of the same opinion about aliasing, in other words, if it sounds good don't worry about it. Give the choice I avoid aliasing, but Iron is a good example of it not affecting the sound adversely, at least to my ears.
Hello, thank you very much for your answer. I agree, ultimately, as it should be, the ears rule more. Now, in my case, I think I could say that in more than 80%-90% (invented figure) when my ears have not been comfortable with any plugin and I review it in images there is a coincidence. Put backwards, Iron seems to be one of those rare exceptions, in which the ears find it good and, instead, by the images, it should go straight to the trash!!! It would be great if you could make a video related to this, or in other words about the "build up" of harmonics or aliasing in the mix chain. I am an amateur, but I think there is an interesting topic to be discussed there. A hug,
Beautiful work! thank you for the video Would love to hear if you have any tips for solo piano work, not necessarily classical recording that might focus on realism but rather artistic mixing and enhancements :) Thank you
Thanks! Yes I'll see if I can do one on piano soon. My feeling is that a good solo piano sound is down to the instrument, the tuning and the mic setup. If any of these elements are not good enough, you'll nevet make it sound great. If all that has been done well, you don't need to do much. Ensemble piano is a very different story, even if the original sound is not great, you can improve things a lot in the mix.
Hello Mark, Really happy to find a video on youtube that finally shows how to mix a double bass and to get a result that actually sounds reaaaaaally good and at the same time realistic. As a drummer i really appreciate that. I would love to know, Do you take the same approach for a take with mic + DI ? (Mic for the whole picture and di for the articulation - ex. high pass @500hz) As reverb and space, what do prefer on this instrument? Mostly room or short plate? Thanks !
Thanks! I probably wouldn't get enough string and fingerboard detail from a bridge mounted DI to use it in that way. So I would probably just work with the mic. There are lots of other tricks you can use to bring out detail and tone on a bass if you only have one mic. I might do a video on that at some point. I don't usually have any reverb on the bass as it tends to muddy things up, unless it's doing a solo, then I might automate in some, usually a hall but it depends on the player and track. Hope that helps.
Great tutorial!!Much thx for getting into all the details of your use of EQ/compression,treating each track differently....thought the end result w/the compressor on the group bus was a real nice sound,exactly what I think you were going after.... If you have a chance at some point,I'd be interested in a little more about the sidechain filter option you used which worked differently than the usual HPF-type sidechain used on compressors to preserve the lows-would like to know where you think it was set in terms of frequency range(1-3k??)and also how you'd suggest doing this w/another compressor that didn't have this feature-would something like setting up a duplicated track with this area uncompressed and isolated w/HPF/LPF to blend in with the others in a group bus using a kind of parallel compr/wet-dry concept work? Again really appreciate your having made this available....
Glad it was useful. :) I probably wouldn't use parallel LPF/HPF because of phase issues with filters. I'm more likely to use a side-chained dynamic EQ.
Keith Jarret vibes. Great bass sound. Question? If having recorded bass with a single condenser could it be an option to copy the audio file to another channel and us the second channel to EQ out all the bottom and high end... like you did on the second mic here to bring out the clarity of articulation and singing area of the frequency range?
Thanks! I don't think you'd get the same result I'm getting here with a copied channel. You might also get some phase issues with the filtering on the copy as it combined with the original. I'm not saying it definately won't work though, it might give you something, always worth a try 🙂
For some reasons on the RUclips not so many helpful information on how to mix jazz. So Thank you so much and please share more of your knowledge with us. Here is our new jazz label Rainy Days rainydaysrecords.ru
Do you mean like sampled virtual instruments? If so then yes to a degree you can use these techniques. I've found it depends on the sample, many of them are already pretty heavily processed so trying to add more processing starts to sound artificial. But on samples which are less processed it may work, always worth a try. 👍
@@heronislandstudio8054 After I imported Finales' instrumentation into Audio Box it needed to be mixed then compressed a little. Then I listened to the music on my mp3 player via an amp the change was wow. I am still learning from the pros. Thank you for your help. Try to be safe and have a nice day.
Thank you. Finally a video dedicated to a "real" acoustic jazz track and not one of the many pseudo-fusion mixes. Cheers!
Cheers!
Now, that is what Jazz is all about. This sounds so good, Articulation.
Cheers!
Great video. I just got spl iron and I love it. Great on just about anything.
Cheers! Yes it's a really nice compressor.
Excellent tutorial. I just learned a lot. Thanks!
Glad it was useful!
Great! Very helpful. Many thanks!
Cheers!
Awesome eq! It definitely enhanced the overall beautiful sound of the acoustic double bass!
Cheers!
This was really useful, thanks a lot Mark. I would love to see a similar video focussing on mixing piano (either solo or as part of a trio/larger band). I always seem to struggle with this. Thanks again
Thanks for sharing - this is very helpful.
You have really nice videos. Thanks for share ¡¡¡
Thanks Jan, glad you found it useful.
Great video and very interesting. But one thing you didn't mention--- there's a huge difference in the sound of a bass with gut strings, and a bass with steel or nylon strings. Personally I love the classic gut string sound that so many great jazz bassists have used. And the quality of their instrument is also an enormous factor as well.
Thanks. Good point about the gut strings! They would definitely need a different treatment.
Really useful ! I love the way you understand the instrument, some people just cut everything but the bass sounds of the bass... Bass player speaking btw.
Tough, I didn't understand the use of the compressor to shape the tone. But it is my favorite step in your process ! Do you have any video or page to advice on that topic ? ( I already know how to use a compressor to shape the dynamics ). Thanks!
Very nice work. Thank you. It's really useful.
Hello! I´ve a question. Is the Bass Sub a Return Channel? idk how you send the signal of the bass channel to the sub bass chnl. Thank you! Great content
Thanks for a great video
Amazing video! Thank you so much! I'm an upright player and getting started on recording in my home studio. You mentioned that you might do a video on recording the upright, is that still a possibility?
Great, very helpful 👍👏
Cheers!
Very helpful indeed, thanks, subbed …
I love your videos, how nice to see a real professional and not a plugin seller. I hope you can help me with a question, I've seen bad comments about the Iron compressor that you use for generating too much aliasing! Another myth about aliasing?! Thank you very much
Thanks. Its true that SPL Iron looks like one hell of a mess in plugin doctor. But the strange thing is, it sounds good. Which just goes to show I guess that aliasing isn't always bad. Dan Worral is of the same opinion about aliasing, in other words, if it sounds good don't worry about it. Give the choice I avoid aliasing, but Iron is a good example of it not affecting the sound adversely, at least to my ears.
Hello, thank you very much for your answer. I agree, ultimately, as it should be, the ears rule more. Now, in my case, I think I could say that in more than 80%-90% (invented figure) when my ears have not been comfortable with any plugin and I review it in images there is a coincidence. Put backwards, Iron seems to be one of those rare exceptions, in which the ears find it good and, instead, by the images, it should go straight to the trash!!! It would be great if you could make a video related to this, or in other words about the "build up" of harmonics or aliasing in the mix chain. I am an amateur, but I think there is an interesting topic to be discussed there. A hug,
Beautiful work! thank you for the video
Would love to hear if you have any tips for solo piano work, not necessarily classical recording that might focus on realism but rather artistic mixing and enhancements :) Thank you
Thanks! Yes I'll see if I can do one on piano soon. My feeling is that a good solo piano sound is down to the instrument, the tuning and the mic setup. If any of these elements are not good enough, you'll nevet make it sound great. If all that has been done well, you don't need to do much. Ensemble piano is a very different story, even if the original sound is not great, you can improve things a lot in the mix.
extremely helpful. Thank you so much. For a standard compressor plug in, what settings would you suggest (ratio, shreshold, attack, hold, release)?
It really depends on the recording and what you need to do with it. Maybe I'll do a video demonstrating some compression techniques.
Hello Mark,
Really happy to find a video on youtube that finally shows how to mix a double bass and to get a result that actually sounds reaaaaaally good and at the same time realistic.
As a drummer i really appreciate that.
I would love to know, Do you take the same approach for a take with mic + DI ? (Mic for the whole picture and di for the articulation - ex. high pass @500hz)
As reverb and space, what do prefer on this instrument? Mostly room or short plate?
Thanks !
Thanks! I probably wouldn't get enough string and fingerboard detail from a bridge mounted DI to use it in that way. So I would probably just work with the mic. There are lots of other tricks you can use to bring out detail and tone on a bass if you only have one mic. I might do a video on that at some point. I don't usually have any reverb on the bass as it tends to muddy things up, unless it's doing a solo, then I might automate in some, usually a hall but it depends on the player and track. Hope that helps.
Thanks man
Great tutorial!!Much thx for getting into all the details of your use of EQ/compression,treating each track differently....thought the end result w/the compressor on the group bus was a real nice sound,exactly what I think you were going after....
If you have a chance at some point,I'd be interested in a little more about the sidechain filter option you used which worked differently than the usual HPF-type sidechain used on compressors to preserve the lows-would like to know where you think it was set in terms of frequency range(1-3k??)and also how you'd suggest doing this w/another compressor that didn't have this feature-would something like setting up a duplicated track with this area uncompressed and isolated w/HPF/LPF to blend in with the others in a group bus using a kind of parallel compr/wet-dry concept work?
Again really appreciate your having made this available....
Glad it was useful. :) I probably wouldn't use parallel LPF/HPF because of phase issues with filters. I'm more likely to use a side-chained dynamic EQ.
Keith Jarret vibes. Great bass sound. Question? If having recorded bass with a single condenser could it be an option to copy the audio file to another channel and us the second channel to EQ out all the bottom and high end... like you did on the second mic here to bring out the clarity of articulation and singing area of the frequency range?
Thanks! I don't think you'd get the same result I'm getting here with a copied channel. You might also get some phase issues with the filtering on the copy as it combined with the original. I'm not saying it definately won't work though, it might give you something, always worth a try 🙂
For some reasons on the RUclips not so many helpful information on how to mix jazz.
So Thank you so much and please share more of your knowledge with us.
Here is our new jazz label Rainy Days rainydaysrecords.ru
Cheers! More in the pipeline!
Where i can find this bass effect ?
Can this be applied to instrumentation from a Daw? Thank You
Do you mean like sampled virtual instruments? If so then yes to a degree you can use these techniques. I've found it depends on the sample, many of them are already pretty heavily processed so trying to add more processing starts to sound artificial. But on samples which are less processed it may work, always worth a try. 👍
@@heronislandstudio8054 After I imported Finales' instrumentation into Audio Box it needed to be mixed then compressed a little. Then I listened to the music on my mp3 player via an amp the change was wow. I am still learning from the pros. Thank you for your help. Try to be safe and have a nice day.