Russian Slava Ship Brief

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  • The Slava-class cruiser is a type of guided missile cruiser that was built for the Soviet Navy in the 1970s and 1980s. The class is named after the lead ship, the Slava, which means "glory" in Russian.
    The Slava-class cruiser is a large and heavily armed warship, designed for a variety of naval operations. The ships in this class are 186 meters long and 20 meters wide, with a displacement of 11,500 tons. They are equipped with a variety of weapons systems, including 16 SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship missiles, 64 SA-N-6 Grumble surface-to-air missiles, and 40 130mm guns.
    The Slava-class cruiser is also equipped with advanced radar and electronic warfare systems, as well as a helicopter hangar and flight deck for two Ka-27 helicopters. This allows the ship to conduct a variety of operations, including anti-air, anti-submarine, and anti-ship warfare, as well as naval gunfire support and reconnaissance missions.
    The Slava-class cruiser was designed to be a formidable opponent to NATO naval forces, particularly the United States Navy. However, only three ships of the class were built, with the last one, the Admiral Flota Lobov, entering service in 1989. The ships served in the Soviet Navy and later the Russian Navy, with the Moskva and Marshal Ustinov still in active service as of 2021.
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Комментарии • 292

  • @claymorexl
    @claymorexl Год назад +130

    Its a sub brief now......

    • @FromMyBrain
      @FromMyBrain Год назад +12

      well yeah, its under water, its covered.

    • @dickwellington8578
      @dickwellington8578 Год назад +16

      A special military operation underwater you could say…

    • @dfgiuy22
      @dfgiuy22 Год назад +1

      LMFAO!

    • @skankhunt9078
      @skankhunt9078 6 месяцев назад +1

      Haha haahaha.
      Haaaahaaaaha.
      AAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @BigTArmada
    @BigTArmada Год назад +176

    Moskova just decided to isolate the fire and flooding to all 15 compartments. Easy mistake, anyone could have made it.

    • @CODMODDERZ360
      @CODMODDERZ360 Год назад +6

      Lmfao 😂

    • @guaposneeze
      @guaposneeze Год назад +8

      Joke about the Slava class all you want, but the Slava's sonar system was much more effective than the Udaloy's HorseTail/HoreJaw system in a sub hunting context, because Udaloy could never overcome accoustic signal falloff at distance but the Slava class sonar has been deployed much closer to where the submarines are.

    • @BigTArmada
      @BigTArmada Год назад +23

      @@guaposneeze It will be really good at detecting them from the bottom too.

    • @KA-jm2cz
      @KA-jm2cz Год назад +5

      It went maybe too close where the submarines are...

    • @manofcultura
      @manofcultura Год назад +10

      @@guaposneeze what good is one piece of kit if your entire country and navy is a dysfunctional mess?

  • @howardhedrick3726
    @howardhedrick3726 Год назад +18

    I'd like to join, living on a set disability budget.. times are tite. Really enjoy watching. My youngest son is deployed on an Ohio class sub.. this is his first time at sea... earns his dolphins on this run... so proud of his determination. Anyway...good being here.. kick back and learn something

  • @Sho-td8wg
    @Sho-td8wg Год назад +69

    Sunk by only 2 missiles sounds insane. Imagine wargaming and Aaron saying "let's sink the flag ship with just 2 harpoons.".

    • @jeremydyar7566
      @jeremydyar7566 Год назад

      According to Russia is was 0 harpoon lol😂😂😂

    • @Schwarzenfels
      @Schwarzenfels Год назад +3

      @@jeremydyar7566 And Russia would be right with that! No Harpoon was involved in Moskvas sinking!

  • @adamevans1989
    @adamevans1989 Год назад +76

    Lazerpig's video on the sinking was eye opening, as he got hold of some of the maintenance reports and she was in a dire state. She was basically a floating Potemkin Village.

    • @noname-wo9yy
      @noname-wo9yy Год назад +21

      Lazerpig lost all credibility after his t14 video. I would be careful with his "sources"

    • @prypiatshadow6371
      @prypiatshadow6371 Год назад +11

      @@noname-wo9yy Nah, at least his old videos are sound. The Moskva one, as you saw in this video, is credible. The T14 one is just lazily done. And the stuff about production was right. Also, you are right a bit, we shouldnt take things for granted.

    • @dr_birb
      @dr_birb Год назад +1

      @@noname-wo9yy What is wrong in his T-14 video? (apart from iirc the engine HP he talked about, as Russians present it in different units which he didn't know/notice, and he acknowledged that iirc in one of NAFO episodes)

    • @noname-wo9yy
      @noname-wo9yy Год назад +1

      @dr_birb There is a fair bit wrong, but I can mention the rebuttal as it gets auto filtered for some reason

    • @dr_birb
      @dr_birb Год назад +1

      @@noname-wo9yy suuure....
      If you're reffering to RedEffect response (which you can talk about, it doesnt get censored dw), I wouldn't be too sure about it, given that LazerPig did make a community post saying he had been talking with RedEffect and supposedly RE regrets making the vid (donno for what reason) and more importantly LP plans to respond to it in the future, so it's not a finished plot point.
      As we come back to reality, T-14 could be as advanced and powerful as russian -propaganda- sources claims it to be, doesn't matter when the number of them in existance is around 6 afaik (/whatever is the highest number of recorded unique T-14s at one time). Not only it's too few in numbers, but it's also a propaganda symbols, and propaganda symbols can't serve in war, as their destruction is too big of a PR disaster (like Yamato). Americans don't care about Abrams getting destroyed in Ukraine, they have thousands of them.

  • @pretty7545
    @pretty7545 Год назад +28

    Was having a terrible day but to hear someone so competent and entertaining talk about these incredible ships for an hour is really a privilege. Turned it right around!

  • @juliusEST
    @juliusEST Год назад +128

    Oh god i already want to meme but i will resist.

  • @hmmjedi
    @hmmjedi Год назад +44

    A great brief on a good ship let down by a lot of issues... I listened to a brief on her which stated that parts of her air defence suite was inoperable, need to dig again and see if I can find it to provide the link... but either way kudos to the Ukrainians for even trying to take her out... I always remember a quote from Tom Clancy when he was on board either Slava or one of her sisters that she had been painted within an inch of her life back in the 90's... thank you for this brief great quality as always.

    • @Juliet1106Tango
      @Juliet1106Tango Год назад +7

      The Moskva's air defense radar interfered with their communications, so they have the choice to have comms or air defense radar. I think its safe to assume which one wasn't active on the day it sunk.

    • @michalpavlat3943
      @michalpavlat3943 Год назад

      @@Juliet1106Tango Based on the quality of information comming from Moscow about Moskva at that time it's almost sure they decided to turn off the comms. ;o)

    • @mp40submachinegun81
      @mp40submachinegun81 Год назад +6

      leaked moskva readiness report from 10 feb 2022 claims
      Fort has issues with keeping illumination to the target and keeping the missiles painted to the target in one of the electronic (non-firing) exercises
      The fire control radars for the Osa-MA has issues with being not active or has issues when active.
      MR-123s for the AK-630s have issues with their opto-electronic systems and no indicators of system being on active scan.
      MR-800 search radar would make SATCOM unusable when set to active scan.

  • @machinesofgod
    @machinesofgod Год назад +16

    I saw one of these ships pull into Singapore while my boat was there...made for an interesting port call.

  • @TylerBingBong
    @TylerBingBong 10 месяцев назад +6

    You said MAD capable, but at first I thought you were using cool kid lingo. Great video.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Год назад +38

    Informative as always, keep up the good work, man!

  • @hippodroid7005
    @hippodroid7005 Год назад

    I really enjoyed this, thanks for making it. The times where you point things out with your mouse are helpful and I think you should do more of it. There were many times where you were talking about a specific system and I didn't remember where it was, so having a picture of the whole ship to the side or switching to a picture of the whole ship would be nice. I hope you do one of the Kirov soon! And you certainly earned a subscribe!

  • @cameron5802
    @cameron5802 Год назад +8

    I truly love your way of speaking, that final bit at the end about how reputation is built during times of war, and depended on during times of peace was poignant.

  • @trentonwallace667
    @trentonwallace667 Год назад +5

    The Slava class sub brief... I see what you did there!

  • @waynesworldofsci-tech
    @waynesworldofsci-tech Год назад +3

    Superb work as always Eric.

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 Год назад +11

    I've been waiting for this one for a very long time

    • @robertschultz6922
      @robertschultz6922 Год назад

      Can you please do a video on the horsetail vds system???

  • @paulsakz1532
    @paulsakz1532 Год назад +6

    top shelf content as always Jive.... "Gold Star"

  • @Militaria_Collector
    @Militaria_Collector Год назад

    Been waiting for this one! Thank you

  • @cuz129
    @cuz129 Год назад

    Great video, best explanation I've seen so far!

  • @ksnebdi
    @ksnebdi Год назад +6

    Love these videos. I watch all of them. Recommend using your mouse even more to show the location of weapons on these ships. Use the laser pointer for extra points. Assume we are dumb as to which antenna is which

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding Год назад +6

    The Sovremeny are, in my opinion, the coolest looking modern warship.

  • @mostlymessingabout
    @mostlymessingabout Год назад +7

    I didn't know that about modern cruise missiles. That's some Star Trek stuff. Thanks Aaron 😮

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +4

      And that is what they call generation 4 missiles. Now think about what a generation 5 missiles, like the Naval strike missiles (NSM) can do... on of it's capability is that it can find it's target on it's own, even if the warships is hiding between other "commercial" ships, the NSM will only target and attack the warships nothing else. And if you fire more than 1 of them, then those missiles will plan the attack pattern by them self, like for example, attack the target from multiple direction.
      It's scary how advance today's missiles are starting to become.

    • @SteveT3D
      @SteveT3D Год назад

      Planning anything special for the coming months Omar?

    • @mostlymessingabout
      @mostlymessingabout Год назад

      @@SteveT3D i have something very special planned. You should go to Freedom tower. On the highest on floors. Bring old people, and people on wheelchairs who cannot move fast...

    • @mostlymessingabout
      @mostlymessingabout Год назад

      @@heuhen the only swarm attack i knew was the Russian anti-ship ones where one of the swarm takes high altitude to search for target whilst the others stay at sea skimming altitude. Although searching for aim point sounds like it needs to plan the route from launch, otherwise the missile will have to steer at terminal range, reducing speed and increasing response time for the target which isn't ideal...

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +1

      @@mostlymessingabout NSM only ned to know what area that ship is in, it search for the target by it self, and if you send more than one, they will perform swarm attack. But not like those Russian missiles, where everyone travel the same route. NSM they change automatically route for every single missile in the swarm, attacking from multiple direction, making it even harder to defend, because you don't know where the next one is coming or your system is busy defending in one direction.
      NSM also self destruct if it can't find a target it recognize. With NSM you don't need to mark the target in the same way as a 4th gen.

  • @Syndr1
    @Syndr1 Год назад

    Hi Sub, great video. 🎥 📻 Thanks. Can you set up maybe a underwater tour 😉

  • @--Dani
    @--Dani Год назад

    Excellent content as always 👍

  • @barrylarking8986
    @barrylarking8986 Год назад +1

    Excellent and always respectful. I am certain that lack of modernisation and training.

  • @kevinnaber790
    @kevinnaber790 Год назад +2

    Would be great to see the divisions along the centerline, not just the vertical barriers. Capital ships in the first and second world wars often would often have a subdivision between the machine spaces and often in the magazines. If the torpedo and hangar spaces are similar to the VLS battery, spanning across the full beam, you have several compartments in adjoining vertical watertight zones that cannot be easily counter flooded without compromising the rest of the ship either by reduced freeboard or reduction of maneuvering and speed efficiency.

  • @valvlad3176
    @valvlad3176 Год назад +2

    14:37 just the results needed as Germans taught us - one IR, one radio-channel, always two. Some of antiship, big ones communicate, I wrote the software for that in old days.

  • @hindy101
    @hindy101 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video. I had no idea that ships had SO many radar/radiation emitters and receivers. Simply so many antennas and domes!

    • @michaeljohnson4258
      @michaeljohnson4258 Год назад +1

      All of those emitters are a great way to detect ships from long range.

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 Год назад

      ​@@michaeljohnson4258 There an even better way to get counter detected.

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall Год назад

      but they could only run the AA or the coms
      and only 1 AA worked, with the rest salvaged for parts to keep that 1 alive
      .
      and thats from the russian report!

  • @Rothinger
    @Rothinger Год назад

    Nice vid, next is Udaloy class cruiser.

  • @ArtietheArchon
    @ArtietheArchon Год назад +7

    This sinking was likely a failure at multiple levels from the top down, and IMO even the ultimate design of the ship left it more vulnerable to this kind of attack than it should be. Ironic that the ship should be so capable of hitting others with "Vampire" sea-skimming missiles and so vulnerable to them herself

  • @lasskinn474
    @lasskinn474 Год назад +4

    you should make the cursor bigger when doing these

  • @HorthornNZ
    @HorthornNZ Год назад +1

    If you look - the short range air defense missiles were still stowed so they did not have enough time to get them up. The 6 short range guns are actually 3 sets of 2 turrets, they work in tandem.

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 6 месяцев назад +1

    I really hope he gets back to doing these, as I miss them! It is so interesting to learn about the little details of these ships! I’m really hoping he will do something on the horse jaw sonar. That sounds like a very dangerous system.

  • @Fiodor0
    @Fiodor0 Год назад

    Excellent work there Mr Turkey!

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh Год назад

    Pop group? Im assuming that means four radars. Great vid mate. Nice theories. I tend to agree with the one where they were took by surprise. Because if they were alerted then they would have been at action stations already. Right? I assume. But if nowt is going on. Yeah. That sounds right. Thats why I don't believe in distraction attacks. Just go in cold. Better usually. Thanks Sub Brief. Great vid as ever.

  • @TheJamesthe13
    @TheJamesthe13 Год назад

    Good brief thanks bud.

  • @eliomarlacerda6943
    @eliomarlacerda6943 Год назад +15

    Eric you always show a lot of respect when talking about other countries and this is rare nowadays. I admire that.
    Thanks for more this great video.
    Greeting from Brazil

  • @Corsair37
    @Corsair37 Год назад +6

    The Slava class are gorgeous in their look, for sure. While it's tempting to make light of the Ukranian's sinking the Black Fleet flagship of the Russian Navy, we shouldn't overlook the loss of life (and you're not). And let's not forget the USS Stark, which on paper should have been able to defend herself against a pair of Exocets but never got a shot off.

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 Год назад +5

      The USS stark didn’t sink though probably because it had functioning damage control equipment seriously the maintenance report from the Russian government paints an abysmal picture of the Moskva’s condition the summary is the radar systems interfered with the radio so they were switched off so the ship could communicate of the AK-630 CWIS systems only one worked same with the SA-N-19 and of the 5000 fire extinguishers it was supposed to have aboard it only had 500 and they were locked up by the admiral to they wouldn’t get stolen

  • @DominickWalenczak
    @DominickWalenczak Год назад +1

    I find a sub brief of the Moskva ironically fitting.

  • @mikespike3962
    @mikespike3962 Год назад

    Another excellent brief

  • @R.-.
    @R.-. Год назад +7

    Do these become members-only after the livestream?
    I tried to watch the video on the Royal Navy ship the other day, then it disappeared..... so the HMS Sheffield Type 42 video will be members-only for a year?

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Год назад +5

      Sheffield is a one off that went to Members only. The rest are public after a Premiere.

  • @johnd2058
    @johnd2058 Год назад +3

    The upgunned version looks like something I drew as a kid. How many missile launchers can fit on the head of a pin?

  • @Backdaft94
    @Backdaft94 Год назад +4

    Moskva is performing excellently as submarine now comrade.

  • @Schwarzenfels
    @Schwarzenfels Год назад +1

    I wouldn't be surprised if key components of the radar suite were inoperable at the time of the attack.

  • @robertbufkin5568
    @robertbufkin5568 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @user-ng3jx1fk2u
    @user-ng3jx1fk2u Год назад +1

    Could theses legacy radar systems have been prone to undetected spoffing/jamming that "hid" an attacking missile?

  • @briannicholas2757
    @briannicholas2757 Год назад +1

    I think you're 100% correct. The Russian navy is operating ships that are terribly maintained, with crews that simply are undertrained and unmotivated.
    Without meaningful refits, ships run in to myriad problems. People forget that ships flex at sea, they warp in effect. The British learned this the hard way during WWII most notably with the pride if the Mediterranean fleet Ark Royal. Most of her watertight doors wouldnt even seal ( great video over on Armoured Carriers channel) and she,was literally run to death.
    The same for Moskava. Once water comes in there's no way to stop it or get it back out, thus ship sinks.

    • @ryssa2409
      @ryssa2409 Год назад +1

      Every case is different, who would maintain a floating conference room which was supposed to be decomissioned already? The actual combat vessels are well maintained.

  • @warmstrong5612
    @warmstrong5612 Год назад +2

    50:50 I think you meant 'Centimeters' not 'Meters' in regards to the piece of the cross. Not even the Kirov has enough extra space to store a 9m long hunk of wood.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Год назад +3

      yea, my brain and mouth don't always say the same thing at the same time.

  • @zoperxplex
    @zoperxplex Год назад +11

    The fact is that no one is sure how well even the best anti aircraft defenses will stand up against a good, low level flying, anti ship missile.

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +5

      And that is why most AAW ships is using layered defence as their protection.

    • @lightbenderga2017
      @lightbenderga2017 Год назад +5

      Some don’t, but the US does plenty of testing with its AEGIS system against even supersonic sea skimmers using targets.

    • @GintaPPE1000
      @GintaPPE1000 Год назад +7

      No. The Russians aren't because they don't train. The US is, because we train against them all the time, and we actually use our old anti-ship missiles as targets. We even had an accident where a training drone failed to break away and hit the ship that was training against it.

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +3

      Well just last week, NATO frigates + Norway have been test firing missiles against various targets, outside of Norway, and from what I have heard, it went quite well. They tested there systems against all type of targets.
      There is an tradition that when a US ship or foreign ship, that are equipped with US radar/weapons comes to US for testing. For example the Norwegian frigates went to USA, when they was new and shoot down all target US could trow at them (And those Norwegian frigates aren't AAW frigates, they are ASW frigate). We know they did it well, due to they hung a broom in the mast (clean sweep).

    • @ArtietheArchon
      @ArtietheArchon Год назад +3

      On 15 October 2016, USS Mason was targeted in a third attack by five anti-ship cruise missiles while operating in the Red Sea north of the Bab el-Mandeb strait. The Navy Times reported the Mason fired a radar decoy, an infrared decoy, and several SM-2 Standard missiles in response, either neutralizing or intercepting four of the five incoming missiles. The Navy reported the fifth incoming missile as neutralized by a radar decoy launched from Nitze, after Mason alerted her to the threat.

  • @mdb831
    @mdb831 Год назад

    Good brief skipper

  • @dcbadger2
    @dcbadger2 Месяц назад

    So do the antennae on the large masts rotate?

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324
    @c0ldyloxproductions324 Год назад +1

    I understand an iowa class ship brief won’t happen this year but is it possible that u can make it one on it next year, the Iowa’s are my favorite battleship class and there has been a lot of videos on their history but never as in depth as ur videos discussing individual systems and weapons and upgrades, btw thank you for the great breakdown of the slava and not using a biased out look on it, too many people just assume it’s a bad ship cause they failed to defend a missile

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 Год назад +1

    " in times of war you will build your reputation, in times of peace you will depend on it..." sub brief 2023...
    I will keep that one in mind...

  • @carlosvasquez9890
    @carlosvasquez9890 Год назад +2

    Wait a second...what is a Slava Class Cruiser doing in a SUB Brief...wait...ohh...

  • @tgzny
    @tgzny Год назад +3

    At least she got downed by people from the same country that build her

    • @chamonix4658
      @chamonix4658 Год назад +2

      alpha and omega, the beginning and the end

  • @robertdshannon5155
    @robertdshannon5155 Год назад

    The Dec commissioned necessary to Comrade Shipyard manager's bonus. Common with subs as well.

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Год назад

    Sub Briefs in the merch store? I think a clever stretch boxer or brief with submarine print? Just a thought.

    • @jamesmichie7980
      @jamesmichie7980 Год назад

      Careful, Will have to be a very bad submarine or nobody will ever see your boxers.

  • @westsideratmarshall
    @westsideratmarshall Год назад +5

    It takes a war to understand if your navy can fight. A good question is in accident investigations you get a good idea if you are ready. See incident of uss monhan and other ship in passing in San Diego

    • @westsideratmarshall
      @westsideratmarshall Год назад

      See uss momsen uss Harper ferry on u tube “near miss” what’s going with shipping

    • @BobWill1846
      @BobWill1846 Год назад

      It's awfully easy to just simplify the world into a saying. It makes everything so easy!

  • @king_br0k
    @king_br0k Год назад

    By guess is that the engines can blend together to transition from cruise to high speed, but they won't operate together for any significant amount of time

  • @aureocanassira33
    @aureocanassira33 Год назад

    I am glad back ship brief miss that . I realy like!

  • @_R-R
    @_R-R Год назад

    1:02:20
    I have a copy of that on my wall. Very cool.

  • @SuperHeroINTJ
    @SuperHeroINTJ Год назад +10

    Wanna hear a joke? Moskva.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari Год назад +1

      One more
      Ukraine is winning

    • @michaelimbesi2314
      @michaelimbesi2314 Год назад

      @@hiteshadhikari You’re just angry because India was dumb enough to buy all of Russia’s shitty technology and now you have to cope with the fact that Pakistan has better weapons. That’s why Modi’s ultranationalist propaganda networks keep claiming that Russia is winning. Because Modi is a Hindu ultranationalist and admitting that Russia isn’t winning and their technology is bad means admitting that Hindus made a mistake.

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 Год назад +1

      Russian military history ami right.

    • @apolloaero
      @apolloaero Год назад +2

      ​@@hiteshadhikari I'm more partial towards, "Everything is going according to plan"

    • @frankfedison5203
      @frankfedison5203 Год назад +3

      Got a better one: Kuznetsov

  • @michaelmulligan0
    @michaelmulligan0 Год назад

    Was there not something about Moscova not being able to operate all radars at the same time?

  • @vladddtfan
    @vladddtfan Год назад

    Another super informative video. Suggest to correct the facts around Moskva’s participation in the invasion of Georgia. August 2008, deployed from Russian base (under lease from Ukraine) in Crimea to provide air cover for Russian invasion of Georgia.

  • @alexis_ian
    @alexis_ian Год назад

    I believe one of the possible explanations is why the radar and weapons failed to detect the Neptune missiles. Is the radar turned off that night while the ship was communicating with HQ in Sevastopol? It's believed the radar was turnoff was it would interfere with the ships SATCOM.

  • @ricardoospina5970
    @ricardoospina5970 Год назад +3

    I remember an interview from a person that had been on the Moskva during the attack, who later defected to Ukraine that said there was no warning before the explosion, only one missile went off and the other did not detonate. Also the Neptune flew at 5 meters, which is under all their missiles minimum engagement range.

    • @mickparkinson207
      @mickparkinson207 Год назад

      Dudes a liar, I don’t believe this was a missile attack, I’ve heard likely it was very impressive Ukrainian agent-agents in the Russian navy whom sabotaged the ship. Not a single piece of evidence has been presented that there was any missile involved just speculation, and conjecture by people unable to apply intellect (critical reasoning, logic, healthy scepticism)
      Alas the combined west citizens are vast majority emotional thinkers and as such are highly susceptible to bias wilfully and subconsciously.

  • @stekra3159
    @stekra3159 Год назад +5

    For the memory of Mark Tasov, he was still Jung who wanted to be a train driver and had to serve the navy to do so got assigned to the Moskova and is one that is still missing his parents will not be abal to greave for him properly until his bloody is recovered.

  • @garynew9637
    @garynew9637 Год назад

    RBU-6000 looks like a very specific job.

  • @ThomasRonnberg
    @ThomasRonnberg Год назад +2

    what's the point of having armor if you can develop advanced shielding systems.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 Год назад

      it's a rather big if.
      anyway larger ships have been thought as not really not worth it for most users anyway, due to post ww2 weapons.

  • @bartfoster1311
    @bartfoster1311 Год назад +1

    They may have had 4 radars but 3 were down for "maintenance" and the last was turned off so it didn't interfere with the communications. That the flagship was in this bad of shape makes you wonder what condition the rest of the fleet is in.

  • @kloppanator
    @kloppanator Год назад

    There's been some mumbling that there were frequency conflicts between radar and communications or something, is that nonsense or might there be something to it?

  • @MisterLongShot_Official
    @MisterLongShot_Official Год назад +5

    1:05:53 it's entirely possible that they got off the defense missiles or the AK630s and took down incoming missiles, but one got through. Like you said, hopefully post war we can get some clarification.

    • @Plaprad
      @Plaprad Год назад +7

      The CIWS, maybe. I doubt it was even activated though. You can't see it in any pics I've seen.
      The missiles, not a chance. An S-300 would have been seen by any number of radars keeping an eye on the area. The Geckos were still stowed. You can see the launchers still have covers in place in the last pics. They were never even deployed.

    • @TzunSu
      @TzunSu Год назад

      We know from leaked documents that they lacked all fire control radars, so no.

  • @fedster187
    @fedster187 Год назад +2

    bush and gorbie chose malta for the meeting due to the good weather
    a few meetings where on the uss belknap
    only problem they had was the worst storm in years hit malta so they ended up not getting as much done as they wanted
    sure it had the nickname "The sea sick summit"

  • @RichardBivins
    @RichardBivins Месяц назад

    Horsetail was roughly equivalent to SQS-35 IVDS

  • @JdeMonster
    @JdeMonster Год назад

    Btw, anybody know what happened to the sheffield video?

  • @LipDipTip
    @LipDipTip Год назад

    You miss pronounced your own name 😂 great video btw.

  • @Splinter00S
    @Splinter00S Год назад +3

    I hear these make good artificial reefs!

  • @Royallblu
    @Royallblu Год назад +1

    On the last point you made, this is not the state of the russian navy: It is the state of their Flagship... their Posterboy; I don't even want to know what is going on on the normal boats.

  • @hindy101
    @hindy101 Год назад +1

    Why in the COGOG must it be an "OR" not just an "and"? Why would it not be preferable to operate both gas turbines together for monster power?

    • @jamesmichie7980
      @jamesmichie7980 Год назад +2

      Gas turbines spin in the 10s of thousands of rpm range it would be difficult to match the speeds and depending on how they optimised the different sized power plants it may not be possible with those engines.

  • @964cuplove
    @964cuplove 2 месяца назад

    Id live to hear about the Ukrainian sub-conversion-kit as applied ;-)

  • @item6931
    @item6931 Год назад +3

    Are the RBUs legit effective ASW weapons these days? They seem like relics from WW2 almost. Like, a sub would have to be really close and you would have to have a pinpoint fire solution. Is that a realistic scenario these days?
    Gut feel is the Chinese use as anti-torpedo weapons is actually more realistic and more likely to succeed. But I have no clue really (which is why I'm throwing the question out there lol).

  • @fishua5564
    @fishua5564 Год назад +2

    I wonder how many sailors have been at sea too long and been aroused by that radar?

  • @TheHoneyThief
    @TheHoneyThief Год назад

    A fitting subject for a sub brief considering Moskva is now a submarine.

  • @KA-jm2cz
    @KA-jm2cz Год назад +1

    One point is that some people in Ukraine konw that ship and its possible problems really well and that may be one key role to missile operation against the ship.

  • @haroldcarfrey4206
    @haroldcarfrey4206 Год назад

    The Brooklyn class carried this much weight and armor plate

  • @cipher315198
    @cipher315198 Год назад +5

    I completely agree with you. The drone theory is so dumb. All a drone does is wake everyone up and send them to battle stations. i.e. close all the water tight doors, get damage control to their stations, and get the competent people on the command deck. A under qualified night watch bored out of there minds allowing what amounts to a harpoon into insanely close range before detection makes so much more sense. Then with the ship at what amounts to normal cruising conditions. i.e. most or all the water tight doors open, and damage control in their racks, a hit from a single missile, even a small one, could be utterly devastating.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 Год назад +1

      Nobody is currently telling any truth in that area of the world.

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +2

      If there was a drone in the area, then it was there only to give targeting data for the team that launched the missile from shore.

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 Год назад

      I heard that the Radar interfered with the Radio so they switched off the Radar to communicate that would explain why it didn’t get shot down

    • @liquidgoose1518
      @liquidgoose1518 Год назад

      My theory is that they flew a UAV into SAM range to see if Moskva will try to track and engage it but once they understood that it’s running without a radar on they decided to fire ASMs

    • @cipher315198
      @cipher315198 Год назад

      ​@@jameson1239 Ya so that's not how radar works, like at all. Seriously that's on par with the admiral back in WWII who was worried about the other side seeing the radar beams with their eyes.

  • @jtough7499
    @jtough7499 Год назад +2

    3R41 Cupcake. I see a missed opportunity there...

  • @Doppler-hh5nt
    @Doppler-hh5nt Год назад

    Maybe i just missed it, but are the CIWS guns on the Moskva automated in the same or similar way the phalanx is?

    • @heuhen
      @heuhen Год назад +3

      the AK doesn't have radar on them like the phalanx have, so they are not that self contained system. but they do have there own system, but it's mounted in a different area of the weapon, the system can be automatic or TV-controlled. It do work in similar way as other CIWS, but if the radar system for the CIWS-systems is damaged, then the gun will only be working as a remote controlled system.

    • @Doppler-hh5nt
      @Doppler-hh5nt Год назад

      @@heuhen Cool, thanks for the response

    • @MsZeeZed
      @MsZeeZed Год назад +1

      The word is 5 of the 6 of Moskva’s CIWS were not capable of auto-fire for maintenance issues, so this system was only functional for a 90 degree arc instead of the 260 it was built to cover when the ship sailed (its is 2-6-0 because the helio deck blocks the rearward quarter, unlike the Kirov class that is longer and has 2 extra CIWS on the stern for 3-6-0)

    • @jamesmichie7980
      @jamesmichie7980 Год назад

      If they'd ever modernised it it would have had Kashtan(30mm & SA-19) replace the ak-630 and gauntlet instead of gecko. far more capable systems that I assume can be warmed up a lot quicker.

  • @sageg58
    @sageg58 Год назад +6

    Did you read the moskva readiness report from right before thr war, 90% of the weapons didnt work and the radars and comms couldnt be used at the same time

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 6 месяцев назад

    Is it common for the usn to deploy a tug with every action group or was that a Russian tradition? I remember the Russian carriers always having at least one tug deploy when ever he went to sea.

  • @gothicalpha
    @gothicalpha Год назад

    In Rise of Nations this was considered the "Advanced Battleship"

  • @piton6232
    @piton6232 9 месяцев назад

    Did it have any nuke onboared when it sank?

  • @captainbinghamton1319
    @captainbinghamton1319 Год назад

    It would be interesting to know who on board is responsible for the ship being struck without warning, or was it equipment failure.

  • @sshray1115
    @sshray1115 Год назад +1

    ⭐⭐🌟⭐⭐

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 7 месяцев назад

    No no! It did not sink! It was upgraded to also be able to (permanently) submerge! That's something the US can't do with their Ticoderogas! :D

  • @jamesmichie7980
    @jamesmichie7980 Год назад

    It may have been more of a combined arms failure, If the radars were quiet to avoid being triangulated they have to rely on an external source for their warning, AWACS or Satellite should have spotted the missiles/launch. Then they would have had many minutes warning to go hot and attempt to intercept the missiles.

    • @hultaelit
      @hultaelit Год назад

      That sounds incredibly unlikely.. You don't just flip a switch and have a radar system operational and ready to rock in 5 seconds from being powered off, specially when it's Soviet 70's and 80's radars

  • @Chironex_Fleckeri
    @Chironex_Fleckeri Год назад

    It's pretty great on paper. If maintained to US standards, it would be as threatening as we thought it would be. At least able to defend itself from capsizing in the event they needed damage control. RIP to the sailors.
    No wonder they couldn't maintain this properly.

  • @MarkusGre
    @MarkusGre Год назад +1

    Nice vid but if I understand You correctly You are saying that Moskva was supos. to be repaired in one og Ukrainians Shipyards around 2016-18? I do not think it would happen because of war in Donbas. It was either in Russian shipyard or in Sevastopol.

  • @garynew9637
    @garynew9637 Год назад

    Good looking ship.Sad for crew.

  • @valvlad3176
    @valvlad3176 Год назад

    19:37 even now I cannot talk about EW details. Sorry man it's really top secret. All I can say it works quite well when activated.