Awesome video, it's always interesting when historical figures are mentioned in the Bible, it's also very interesting that the Pharaoh in every movie about the Bible is Rameses II for some reason
I think it would be pretty funny if another take has Hatshepsut be the pharaoh of Exodus, although that would probably be opening an entire pallette of canned worms.
That likely came from the fact that Ramesses is mentioned a few times as place names (including Exodus), and there is secular evidence that places conquered by the Egyptians were renamed in honor of a pharoh. And since the general vibe of Egypt in the story suggests its going through a golden era, many people connect the dots or just assume it to be Ramesses II.
@@lucinae8512 I just find it curious especially since Christian scholars who have aligned the bible with real dates have come to the consensus that the dates of the Exodus align with a much earlier Pharaoh whose name escapes me unfortunately
I am Assyrian, and love hearing you bring up the importance of Sennacherib's campaign. Had he succeeded, so shortly after Hezekiah had moved Judah toward monotheism, the world might be a very different place. Not necessarily better or worse, but... different. Gives an amateur historian like me countless seeds to cultivate into alt-history thought exercises.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, you Assyrians were punished by God, for your own good of course, with taking away your empire and even independence, which lead to your repentance and coming to God, destroying all your idols. That video is heretic: all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
Video idea: All civilizations family tree. A video about how each civilization came to be and from which other civilizations they started from. It could go all the way from ancient Mesopotamia through to today even.
The biggest difficulty regarding pharaohs before Shishak has come from early Egyptologists. An assu,ption was made that because the Hebrew narrative states that they were forced to build two cities, Ramses and Pitom. That meant the Pharaoh was Ramses II. However the Hebrew account indicates that these were of mud brick. The archeological remnants of PiRamses are of monumental stone. The archeological digs at PiRamses and Pitom (Avaris) are of river stone. Such foundations in the wet sediments of the Nile delta, could nit have supported monumental stone. And the archeologists discounted Ramses I the first of the 19th Dynasty.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, that's because the Bible refers to the area of Avaris in retrojection. The Pharaoh of the oppression and his daughter are Ahmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III
14:34 Isn't the main reason Judah try to prevent Egypt from helping Assyria was Josiah didn't want the two empires to stay as strong allied hostile hegemons that surrounds his small kingdom? Because surely he had no idea that the Babylonian rebels would become a huge empire.
Well actually Egypt was about to destroy Assyria and Josiah apparently got in the way and died by Pharaoh Neco It was known Babylon would rise up by Isaiah time 2 Kings 20:16 And Isaiah said to Hezekiah, Hear the word of the LORD. 2 Kings 20:17 Behold, the days come, that all that is in your house, and that which your fathers have laid up in store to this day, shall be carried into Babylon: nothing shall be left, said the LORD. 2 Kings 20:18 And of your sons that shall issue from you, which you shall beget, shall they take away; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
Great channel I appreciate all the hard work and research that goes into creating this content on yours and a few other channels. There are many who will find this information, well, useful. Thanks !!
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
My favorite fact about Shoshenq is that he hit a steep downturn in his reign, but years later made a huge comeback. They called it Shoshenq's Redemption.
Loved this. its good to hear the back and forth between Eqypt's forces from the south and Assyria from the north with Judah and Israel in the middle. You can see the fall of the the Israelite monarchy as a result of just local power politics instead of punishment. I will have to look into the "beginnings of monotheism" bit.
Keep in mind that events about the Israelite monarchy are Jewish history, and that Jews, traditionally, have viewed Jewish history through a Jewish lens, so when they say their loss of sovereignty was a devine punishment, that is their right (secular Jews also have their own worldview). When Christians say the fall of the Israelite monarchy was a divine punishment for violently rejecting what Christians call the Lord and Savior Jesus, that is religious propaganda. When a secular scholar interprets Jewish history, it should make little to no difference to him or her what the Jews have to say about themselves.
what I learned from a random illustrated book about the Biblical Levant was that *the area comprising "Israel" and "Judea" were practicing polytheists, consisting of the Canaanite pantheon* (aka the "villain" deities that Moses,the Judges, & the prophets warned against), and that the *cult of YHWH centered on El* (aka the core message of the Tanakh/Old Testament) was practically *the odd one out* ; basically "Israel" and "Judea" were only practicing the international established norms, and that the YHWH cult was the "antagonistic instigator" in quite uncomfortable layman's terms, "Israel" and "Judea" were practicing the _status quo_ and that the YHWH cult are like what modern-day terms call the "far right", "antifa", etc.
@@盧璘壽로인수 They wouldn't be the those unless they were acting like them. They may have been the odd ones out, but there's probably way too much imputation to decide any of that. The video even talks about how the cultures in those times were functionally polytheistic, with a blend of religions, but Hezekiah brings back the monotheistic tradition that clearly existed en masse beforehand (remember, these priests who represented a long and storied tradition were the ones who convinced the king, not just a couple randos off the street). So the idea that the monotheistic YHWH Jews had become a minority in those kingdoms isn't strange - that's even part of the narrative of the Bible. But that doesn't necessarily mean they were ever entirely irrelevant or powerless within that context, much less that they were some insurgent group that relied on violence or agitation to spread their message. I'd just be careful about connecting those dots so creatively.
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
12:10 Actually there is no real disagreement if you studied the full text & the Assyrian king Sennacherib's prism aka the Hexagonal Taylor Prism As it sounds like you missed it- that the bible speaks of the first tribute 2 Kings 18:13 Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them. 2 Kings 18:14 And Hezekiah king of Judah sent to the king of Assyria to Lachish, saying, I have offended; return from me: that which you put on me will I bear. And the king of Assyria appointed to Hezekiah king of Judah three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. 2 Kings 18:15 And Hezekiah gave him all the silver that was found in the house of the LORD, and in the treasures of the king's house. 2 Kings 18:16 At that time did Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors of the temple of the LORD, and from the pillars which Hezekiah king of Judah had overlaid, and gave it to the king of Assyria. 2 Kings 18:17 And the king of Assyria sent Tartan and Rabsaris and Rabshakeh from Lachish to king Hezekiah with a great host against Jerusalem. And they went up and came to Jerusalem. And when they were come up, they came and stood by the conduit of the upper pool, which is in the highway of the fuller's field. Yet Assyria talks of latter having Hezekiah "trapped like a bird in a cage" yet leaving Judah and thats where the bible writes of angels slaying Assyria and the king of Assyria actually dying as its historially aline Some parts of this review was indeed disingenuous as The Taylor Prism confirms the following points mentioned in scripture: That Sennacherib was king of Assyria. 2 Chronicles 32:10: This is what Sennacherib king of Assyria says. The first lines of the prism: Sennacherib, the great king, the mighty king, king of the world, king of Assyria. For the full extent of what Sennacherib says about himself, see the footnote.[4] Hezekiah was king of Judah. 2 Kings 18:1: In the third year of Hosea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz, king of Judah began to reign. Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not submit to my yoke. Sennacherib captured all of the cities of Judah. 2 Kings 18:13: In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah’s reign, Sennacherib king of Assyria attacked all the fortified cities of Judah and captured them. The Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not summit to my yoke: Forty six of his strong, walled cities, as well as the small towns in the area, which were without number….I besieged them and took them. Hezekiah paid tribute to Sennacherib which included 30 talents of gold. 2 Kings 18:14b: The king of Assyria extracted from Hezekiah king of Judah, three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. Taylor prism: In addition to the thirty talents of gold and eight hundred talents of silver.[5] Hezekiah was confined in Jerusalem. 2 Kings 18:17-37: When Sennacherib was laying waste to the cities of Judah, only Lachish and Jerusalem were left and he had laid siege to Lachish, he sent officials to Hezekiah who was sheltering in Jerusalem. Taylor prism: …like a caged bird (Hezekiah) I shut up in Jerusalem. Sennacherib was unable to take Jerusalem and capture Hezekiah. 2 Kings 19:35-36: That night the Angel of the LORD went out and put to death 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all dead bodies! So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there. Of course, Sennacherib does not mention this happening because it was embarrassing for such a proud man who was full of his own importance. But the fact that he never mentions that Jerusalem had fallen to his forces which would have been the crowning achievement of his champaign into Judah and that he had captured king Hezekiah, is strong testament to the truth of the scriptural account. The ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote in about 450 BC in his book Histories, describe the operation being an Assyrian failure due to; a multitude of field-mice descending upon the Assyrian camp, devouring crucial material such as quivers and bowstrings, making the Assyrians unarmed and causing them to flee.[6] He does not appear to doubt that the incident happened, but rather to provide a non-spiritual reason for it. As well, Josephus records the incident stating; God had sent a pestilential distemper upon his army.[
All of his charts concerning the Bible are disingenuous like that. I've also pointed out many mistakes in his other videos but those aren't mistakes, he purposefully spreads misinformation because it's his opinion that the bible is nothing more than tall tales created to imbue a sense of nationalism in the Jewish people after Babylon. So anything that contradicts that narrative is left to the wayside.
Question: so at 15:48, Jeremiah 44 : 30 says it was "Zedekiah" of Judah who fell to Nebuchadnezzar, but your chart shows "Zechariah". Which name is correct historically?
Keep in mind that the Pharaoh Shoshenq is not only the first historical person in the Bible, he is also the first published author, having penned his autobiography, "The Shoshenq Redemption" (later sold for movie rights).
I love your series on Who Wrote the Bible! I have purchased two charts that are amazing. I'm trying to see if I connect to any Norse kings or queens through my genealogy. I have English and Spanish kings and queens in my genealogy, including George Washington who is my Mother's 8th cousin. I loved the video on how some of the presidents are connected. I knew I was related to Obama and Washington, but now I find that I'm probably related to all of them, too! I appreciate all your hard work. Thanks!
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
[Min: 10:38] Probably the biblical text you wanted to quote is in II Kings 19:9, not in I King 19:9. Thank u for the contents of your channel. They are so instructive. I learn a lot with u, Matt. Greetings from Paraguay. 😊 ✌️
wow. this is the real gold in the old testament. impressive. highly descriptive tradition at a time when this much couldn't have been done by a handful of memorizers.
🤺☦🇷🇺You call him Lord?🤦♂️No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
I second other comments. Love learning which Bible characters can be verified by history. Also so interesting how Bible characters and events are history, legend, or, oh my apologies, exaggerated (closer to fiction -- I forget the name of the 3rd category?).
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
Yes matt made a video but those were tutorials of how he designs posters on LibreOffice and Adobe! I am speaking about how he edits and animates his posters into video format
@@mukarramali The animation might be the same as Geoff Marshall does for line maps. I think Vid Editing there are a couple of software programs. one on line on on local computer and they sometimes advertise on YT ads
50 persons from the Old Testament are mentioned in other historical records. 27 persons from the New Testament are mentioned in other historical records.
Many actual US Presidents are mentioned in comic book series, such as from DC in series such as Superman. Fictional works often use real-life figures or places to set their stories.
Speaking of the pharaoh of exodus The story of Arsu the shasu and pharaoh Setnakhte is extremely similar to the moses story and the exodus. In this story arsu the shasu and his followers took over egypt, destroyed all the temples and treated their gods like men. Before finally pharaoh setnakhte forced arsu and his followers out of egypt , by this point cannan was no longer part of egypt. This event happened around the bronze age collapse. So maybe the moses story is just a memory of arsu.
I'm more partial to the idea that he was Ramses II. We have a large Semitic city (Avaris) with a substantial slave population that gets abandoned during his reign, one generation before you get both a population explosion in Canaan and the first extra-Biblical mention of Israel (in the Merneptah Stele). The Torah seems to consistently use placenames from this period. It has an unusually high number of Egyptian loanwords compared to pretty much any other ancient document we have, and with many of them the root words are from roughly this period of Egyptian history. Which strongly suggests that the text or its sources ultimately date back to the Ramesside period.
Hi Matt! Just a kind request.. is it possible to put a chronological order of your videos from the beginning of time to current last e.g. Game of thrones? Hihi funny but i would like to study the proper timeline of men and (fiction) on its proper order? Gahh, big request. I know you’re busy but who knows, right? Teehee
I wonder if you're ever going to do a video about the assorted theories on the participants of the Battle of Siddim. "Amraphel, king of Sennaar" for sure sounds like that could be Hammurabi! Wikipedia doesn't say much about what the _modern_ opinion is, admittedly. AFAIK the chronology isn't quite right for most of the usual candidates, but IIRC there were several other rulers named Hammurabi in the area so it doesn't have to be the famous one specifically.
Oh if only this video came out two weeks ago. I work at a church and the scripture/sermon that weekend went over a bit of Joseph’s story in Genesis and I kept wondering which Pharaoh they were referring to. I spent an hour googling about it just to find out the information you provided in the first 40 seconds of this video.
The first 40 seconds is useless to all of us. Of course the Bible is true. You as someone who was entrusted to teach at a church of all places should know that.
Dr David Falk, an Egyptologist and Bible Scholar who runs the channel Ancient Egypt and the Bible, provides answers to just this sort of question both in his regular videos and in his weekly Q&A livestream. I don't think he's devoted an entire video to the question of which pharaoh was Joseph's, but he's said several times that it was one of the Hyksos pharaohs of the second intermediate period (and we don't have the full list of names of those pharaohs).
@@stephengray1344 Thats not possibly true, in all religious books God specifically refers to the ruler at the time of Joseph as "king of Egypt" not hyksos.. I believe you are citing Zahi hawas who came up with this theory. But he is known to be a liar and a thief who misleads other about Egypt, Thats why he was kicked from his position in Egypt.
According to the portal, and according to your own narration, the cities attacked by Shishak AKA Shoshenq were in the north. How can Shoshenq/Shishak attack cities of his ally, Jehoboam? No city in the South, the area of Rehoboam is mentioned. Don't you smell a rat? Does that not suggest a contradiction of facts? The ally is Jeroboam and the Bubar Stile Portal records victories against the cities belonging to the ally? Is it possible that maybe aligning Shishak of the Bible with Shoshenq was a misrepresentation of the facts? Could it be that the two were totally different individual Pharaohs who reigned in different time periods under different dynasties?
12:10 Actually there is no real disagreement if you studied the full text & the Assyrian king Sennacherib's prism aka the Hexagonal Taylor Prism As it sounds like you missed it- that the bible speaks of the first tribute ( ~2 Kings 18:13 Yet Assyria talks of latter having Hezekiah "trapped like a bird in a cage" yet leaving Judah and thats where the bible writes of angels slaying Assyria and the king of Assyria actually dying as its historially aline Some parts of this review was indeed disingenuous as The Taylor Prism confirms the following points mentioned in scripture: That Sennacherib was king of Assyria. 2 Chronicles 32:10: This is what Sennacherib king of Assyria says. The first lines of the prism: Sennacherib, the great king, the mighty king, king of the world, king of Assyria. For the full extent of what Sennacherib says about himself, see the footnote.[4] Hezekiah was king of Judah. 2 Kings 18:1: In the third year of Hosea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz, king of Judah began to reign. Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not submit to my yoke. Sennacherib captured all of the cities of Judah. 2 Kings 18:13: In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah’s reign, Sennacherib king of Assyria attacked all the fortified cities of Judah and captured them. The Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not summit to my yoke: Forty six of his strong, walled cities, as well as the small towns in the area, which were without number….I besieged them and took them. Hezekiah paid tribute to Sennacherib which included 30 talents of gold. 2 Kings 18:14b: The king of Assyria extracted from Hezekiah king of Judah, three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. Taylor prism: In addition to the thirty talents of gold and eight hundred talents of silver.[5] Hezekiah was confined in Jerusalem. 2 Kings 18:17-37: When Sennacherib was laying waste to the cities of Judah, only Lachish and Jerusalem were left and he had laid siege to Lachish, he sent officials to Hezekiah who was sheltering in Jerusalem. Taylor prism: …like a caged bird (Hezekiah) I shut up in Jerusalem. Sennacherib was unable to take Jerusalem and capture Hezekiah. 2 Kings 19:35-36: That night the Angel of the LORD went out and put to death 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all dead bodies! So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there. Of course, Sennacherib does not mention this happening because it was embarrassing for such a proud man who was full of his own importance. But the fact that he never mentions that Jerusalem had fallen to his forces which would have been the crowning achievement of his champaign into Judah and that he had captured king Hezekiah, is strong testament to the truth of the scriptural account. The ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote in about 450 BC in his book Histories, describe the operation being an Assyrian failure due to; a multitude of field-mice descending upon the Assyrian camp, devouring crucial material such as quivers and bowstrings, making the Assyrians unarmed and causing them to flee.[6] He does not appear to doubt that the incident happened, but rather to provide a non-spiritual reason for it. As well, Josephus records the incident stating; God had sent a pestilential distemper upon his army.[
Allow me to submit the following information; Sometime between 1670-1625 BCE, the cataclysmic eruption of Thera occurred. Either shortly before or after this event, the Hyksos were ejected from Egypt and subsequently fled en masse to Canaan. The pharoah of Egypt at that time was Ahmose I.
Good video. Checked reference at [10:42]: it should be 2 Kings 19:9 instead of 1 Kings. Also liked the maps at [4:00] of Egypt and [5:00] of Israel, Judah, & neighbors.
I'm not expert in ancient Egyptian to Aramaiac translation, but is there not a tremendous play in vowels in the written forms of both languanges. And that difference in pronunciation is all vowels.
My belief is that the Moses story had Inspiration in a different exile of a people/culture from Egpytian Society, in particular those that Prayed to the Sun God Aten under the leadership of Akhenaten the Heretic. Mainly because 1. They all believe in One God and abandoned all others which alot of the society of Egypt HATED 2. They were exiled by Tutenkhamun in around mid 13th Centry from the Kingdom of Egypt but not the tributary states like the Levant for their heresy. This was 500 years before the Exodus story was based. 3. It is likely these Exiles would leave to a place like the levant due to similar religious practices in the area which still being under semi Egyptian protection as a client state type fashion. I distinctively remember that this area was hotly contested between themselves and the Hittites at the time? Maybe I am wrong on that but Egypt thought it was a area to keep ^^ Overall my belief is that the story of the Exodus is the written record of their linguistic story of a people from Egypt that left and integrated with the Jews in the area which us why in Exodus they are known as Jews, because when Exodus is written these people were Jews whom had integrated into Jewish society. Please let me know your thoughts all of you x
when the jews arrived in the levant, it was filled with nations that worshipped many gods. not a mono god, nor their mono god. those nations had to be removed from the land that Jewish God had promised them. they were warned not to intermix with any of the people that remained because they worshipped false gods.
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was Tutankhamen's great-grandfather Tutmose (I forget wich number). If one looks at the traditional dating of the Exodus (c. 1400 bc - 1500 bc) and the traditional dating of the Pharaohs, this matches up. Also the Bible does not actually say that Pharaoh drowned, rather, his army drowned. Further still, looking at the name Moses, it resembles the names of a number of Pharaohs in this dinasty.
@@Midlife_Manical_Mayhem interesting you say that, you got that from the Jewis Bible right? Well as other videos on this channel have said, the section talking about 'intermixing' was made when Jews were established, not during the time of this Exile of these people. So it could be said that Jews would intermix with these people, definitely when they also believed in only one god, they could have even said its the same good in different names.
I remember seeing a video that stated that even in the ancient/middle ages(if I'm not mistaken) that claimed Christian scholars(at least the truly committed ones) where aware that most of the bible was based on allegories is this true? Also given that the bible actually has historical figures that have been confirmed to be real people, is it possible that there are more characters in the bible that truly did existed but no evidence exist as of now?
" Also given that the bible actually has historical figures that have been confirmed to be real people, is it possible that there are more characters in the bible that truly did existed but no evidence exist as of now?" The Spiderman comics mention real characters, both living and alive, that doesn't mean Doc Oc existed.
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Thats nonsense. First of all 'scholar' is not a protected term, anyone can call themselves a scholar. Secondly, there's no such thing as an atheist scholar. Atheism is not an ideology or philosophy, it doesnt guide or inform someone doing scientific research. Finally, just because a[ person is mentioned that existed in history, doesn't mean the rest of the claims in that same story are true..
And AFAIK a bunch of the Persian rulers mentioned in the Bible, such as Darius, Xerxes, and Artaxerxes, were technically pharaohs as well. I wonder if the Bible mentions Alexander the Great anywhere...
@@january1may Hes mentioned briefly in 1 Maccabees 1:1-10- “Now it came to pass, after that Alexander the son of Philip the Macedonian, who first reigned in Greece, coming out of the land of Cethim, had overthrown Darius king of the Persians and Medes: [2] He fought many battles, and took the strong holds of all, and slew the kings of the earth: [3] And he went through even to the ends of the earth, and took the spoils of many nations: and the earth was quiet before him. [4] And he gathered a power, and a very strong army: and his heart was exalted and lifted up. [5] And he subdued countries of nations, and princes: and they became tributaries to him. [6] And after these things, he fell down upon his bed, and knew that he should die. [7] And he called his servants the nobles that were brought up with him from his youth: and he divided his kingdom among them, while he was yet alive. [8] And Alexander reigned twelve years, and he died. [9] And his servants made themselves kings every one in his place: [10] And they all put crowns upon themselves after his death, and their sons after them many years, and evils were multiplied in the earth.” “Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia. And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.” Daniel 11:2-3.
Shabaka was named after the son of Cush (ancestor of sub-Saharans), called Seba (ancestor of Nilotic-khoisans = kingdom of Cush = Nubians = sudanese), and Shabaktu after Sabtekha (ancestor of Chads = also kingdom of Cush)
A recent doc had identified Ahmose I as the Pharoah that ran out the Hyksos in 1550 bce. At the same time as the eruption of Santorini. They have found this written on a Stella of Ahmose.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, and continued later with the 18th dynasty, when Thutmose I was the Pharoah of Moses' time in Egypt, his daughter Hatshepsut, was the Pharoah's daughter who saved Moses from the Nile, and Thutmose III, as Pharoah of the exodus
A major gap in logic occurs at the 5’ mark, possibly representing a Bias of Useful Charts. Here, two major assumptions are made that led to the conclusion that because too few archaeological details are available to really know one way or the other, it must be that the Biblical narrative is wrong. First, not all of the text described on the tablet mentioned is now decipherable. Second, past archaeological studies’ authors have already drawn the conclusion, based on preliminary evidence, that the lack of archaeological evidence for the biblical narrative equals evidence of absence of biblical history to begin with. At this point, I stopped listening and transferred my attention to more promising investments of time. SO much conjecture in the storyline here, and amazingly enough, it appears from many other comments that people simply accept it as truth.
For despite an impression given that the Qur'an accurately portrays later Egyptian rulers as “pharaohs” and earlier rulers as “kings,” the Qur'an actually only mentions two rulers of ancient Egypt: the Exodus pharaoh at the time of Moses-again, mentioned 128 times-and the Egyptian “king” at the time of Joseph.
Question: *Is Sargon II really the son of Tiglath-Pilesar III and the father of Sennacherib?* The Bible seems to not give enough time for the year reign of Sargon II. Could there be two kings of Assyria ruling at the same time, like a coregency?
That has been one of the questions , in terms of is there other written evidence ( even clay tablets ) that would give a better Assyrian etc timeline , either the Bible got it wrong, working later off falible sources, or there is a name omitted or added somewhere, or as you suggest if Assyria were so big it might need an effective Internal Ruler and External "secretary of state" ?
@@highpath4776 yes. Because both sources agree on the reign of Sargon II, I tend to believe the third option that there is a coregency between Shalmaneser V and his actual son Sennacherib (according to the Bible), and Sargon II. It was at that time that King Achaz sent to *the kings of Ashur* to help him. Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 28:16 CJB So runners went with the letters from the king and his officers throughout all Isra’el and Y’hudah. They conveyed the king’s order: “People of Isra’el! Turn back to Adonai, the God of Avraham, Yitz’chak and Ya‘akov! Then he will return to those of you who remain, who escaped capture by *the kings of Ashur.* Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 30:6 CJB a large crowd was gathered to block all the springs and the stream flowing through the countryside. They reasoned, “Why should *the kings of Ashur* come and find an ample supply of water?” Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 32:4 CJB
One needs to consider the sources of wealth between Israel and Judah. Israel in the north included what we now calk Lebanon. It’s natural resources are of the then Cedar forests. Judah controlling the south, would have included the Copper mines on the south eastern side of the Dead Sea. Although some say this was in Edom, there are religious statues there of Egyptian deities. This would then have ben under the control by the Judges for Egypt. By the time of Shishak, well after the Sea Peoples when Egypt. Was again in two realms if upper and lower, Upper being controlled by the priests leaving lower as more of a vassal state, and even Susennes , having moved the remnants of PiRamses to Tanis, had very little wealth. Although this was in the early days of the Iron Age, Copper for Bronze was still a major commodity and could be sold at high profit thereby creating great wealth. This was a prize that Shishak would want as it had been a source of wealth even through the 19th Dynasty. These mines would have slipped from Egyptian control when due to being so weakened and split, The Levant would have taken the initiative and set up their own kingdom., as they already had the rule of the area.
I do enjoy hearing about these timelines and while the timeline itself and general information seems accurate, I do have to question some points in this one. 1- Early on he questions the strength of the Northern and Southern Kingdoms of Israel. Claiming that Jerusalem in Judah could not have been the location of Single rule for the United Kingdom. At the same Time he claims Single Rule and divided rule through out Egypt's history. So which is it? If a kingdom much larger than Israel could be ruled by a single king/pharaoh, why couldn't Israel? Israel (Northern) held 10 Tribes of Israel while Judah (Southern) held 2. So it would make sense that The Northern Kingdom would have more strength or fighters over all. If you look at a Map you would also find Jerusalem to be a little South of Center of Unified Israel. This makes sense as in that day it would be rare to have your Capital near a border. You should also note that Jerusalem today is at the Southern Border of Israel (Northern Judah) . It should also be known that 2 Tribes (20% , Judah) of Israel held 28.7% of the land mass and was not the first to fall. So which Kingdom was actually the strongest? 2- He claims Cush was not the Ethiopia of the Bible as Ethiopia was much further south. However, research will show that Older Maps identify Cush reaching far south into the Territory that is known as Ethiopia. It is also known that to those who speak or know Greek, Cush is a name for Cush and Ethiopia in many Greek writings and used interchangeably. 3- He also mentions the beginning of the Jewish Nation/People, while this may have been the official assignment of the term Jew and the Jewish religion, the belief systems were in place long before the fall of the Northern Kingdom. The Israelites were a Monotheistic long before the term Jew was used to describe them. I can normally do some research to verify information provided in these Videos, but this one is a little off in some of the points and it took me less than 1 hr to verify. Other than some of the statements in this video well done on the Timeline and the rest of the commentary, it is always a plus to put combine historic documents for a better descriptive analysis.
Whether Shoshenq I is Shishak is not definite. Not unless there are newer scholarships proving they are related or the same. He was only "presumed" but not definite if it was him.
I understood from an old TV show that the reason shoshenq is “shishack” is a Hebrew pun in the similarity that name has to the Hebrew for “piece of dung”? I’d love to know from someone with ancient Hebrew knowledge if that’s true or cobblers…
I love this channel, and it finally provided the Shoshenq redemption I have been eagerly anticipating.
Ah yes, the exact joke I was thinking
Is that the story from Stephen Pharaoh? The one with BubasTim Robbienesses?
Lol this is a joke listen to Surah Ta Ha by Ismail Annuri to here the Hadith of Musa!
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought of that joke
So i wasnt the only one thinking about the Shoshenq redemption
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Awesome video, it's always interesting when historical figures are mentioned in the Bible, it's also very interesting that the Pharaoh in every movie about the Bible is Rameses II for some reason
I want to see other more videos about historical characters mentioned in the Bible.
@@theshenpartei would be very interesting to see
I think it would be pretty funny if another take has Hatshepsut be the pharaoh of Exodus, although that would probably be opening an entire pallette of canned worms.
That likely came from the fact that Ramesses is mentioned a few times as place names (including Exodus), and there is secular evidence that places conquered by the Egyptians were renamed in honor of a pharoh. And since the general vibe of Egypt in the story suggests its going through a golden era, many people connect the dots or just assume it to be Ramesses II.
@@lucinae8512 I just find it curious especially since Christian scholars who have aligned the bible with real dates have come to the consensus that the dates of the Exodus align with a much earlier Pharaoh whose name escapes me unfortunately
I am Assyrian, and love hearing you bring up the importance of Sennacherib's campaign. Had he succeeded, so shortly after Hezekiah had moved Judah toward monotheism, the world might be a very different place. Not necessarily better or worse, but... different. Gives an amateur historian like me countless seeds to cultivate into alt-history thought exercises.
Hey man, any exciting What-Ifs so far?
Hahaa Amen!! 👍👍🙏✝
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, you Assyrians were punished by God, for your own good of course, with taking away your empire and even independence, which lead to your repentance and coming to God, destroying all your idols.
That video is heretic: all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
It is always a good day when Useful Charts uploads!
Good way to kick off the weekend
@@theshenpartei Yep
Video idea: All civilizations family tree.
A video about how each civilization came to be and from which other civilizations they started from. It could go all the way from ancient Mesopotamia through to today even.
Great idea, Austin.
@@AustinCKinghorn I'm glad you agree, Austin.
That would be really interesting and would take forever XD
@@KarmasAB123 ahh, a series then?
@@Atown0921 Great minds.
I love charts! So happy I found this channel! 😁
The biggest difficulty regarding pharaohs before Shishak has come from early Egyptologists. An assu,ption was made that because the Hebrew narrative states that they were forced to build two cities, Ramses and Pitom. That meant the Pharaoh was Ramses II. However the Hebrew account indicates that these were of mud brick. The archeological remnants of PiRamses are of monumental stone. The archeological digs at PiRamses and Pitom (Avaris) are of river stone. Such foundations in the wet sediments of the Nile delta, could nit have supported monumental stone. And the archeologists discounted Ramses I the first of the 19th Dynasty.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, that's because the Bible refers to the area of Avaris in retrojection. The Pharaoh of the oppression and his daughter are Ahmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Except there was no Exodus.
Egypt ruled Canaan from the 16th to the 12th century.
Pitom was not Avaris. There are at least 3 sites that are though may be Piton. They were all small Egyptian fortress cities.
@@fordprefect5304 Yes, it was, keep crying.
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Evidence please
This is amazing! Archaeology proves the historical writings of the Bible to some extent.
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Isn't the main reason Judah try to prevent Egypt from helping Assyria was Josiah didn't want the two empires to stay as strong allied hostile hegemons that surrounds his small kingdom?
Because surely he had no idea that the Babylonian rebels would become a huge empire.
Well actually Egypt was about to destroy Assyria and Josiah apparently got in the way and died by Pharaoh Neco
It was known Babylon would rise up by Isaiah time
2 Kings 20:16 And Isaiah said to Hezekiah, Hear the word of the LORD.
2 Kings 20:17 Behold, the days come, that all that is in your house, and that which your fathers have laid up in store to this day, shall be carried into Babylon: nothing shall be left, said the LORD.
2 Kings 20:18 And of your sons that shall issue from you, which you shall beget, shall they take away; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.
Incredible video as always! That fact/theory about Taharqa actually blew my mind!
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
Great channel I appreciate all the hard work and research that goes into creating this content on yours and a few other channels. There are many who will find this information, well, useful. Thanks !!
That's the video I've always wanted to see, you never disappoint
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
My favorite fact about Shoshenq is that he hit a steep downturn in his reign, but years later made a huge comeback. They called it Shoshenq's Redemption.
I was really hoping someone would make a Shawshank joke!
@@rainstreet78 Hahaaa 😁
I was so pleased to see this video today, made my Friday! Thanks Matt
Awesome information as always. Thank you.😊
Would you be able to do a video / chart on the different kingdoms and wars of successors after Alexander the Great's death?
Alexander himself wouldn’t be able to cut through that Gordian Knot 😂
The amount of royal incest that went on between the Ptolemies and Seleucids would require a video all to themselves.
Loved this. its good to hear the back and forth between Eqypt's forces from the south and Assyria from the north with Judah and Israel in the middle. You can see the fall of the the Israelite monarchy as a result of just local power politics instead of punishment. I will have to look into the "beginnings of monotheism" bit.
Keep in mind that events about the Israelite monarchy are Jewish history, and that Jews, traditionally, have viewed Jewish history through a Jewish lens, so when they say their loss of sovereignty was a devine punishment, that is their right (secular Jews also have their own worldview). When Christians say the fall of the Israelite monarchy was a divine punishment for violently rejecting what Christians call the Lord and Savior Jesus, that is religious propaganda. When a secular scholar interprets Jewish history, it should make little to no difference to him or her what the Jews have to say about themselves.
what I learned from a random illustrated book about the Biblical Levant was that *the area comprising "Israel" and "Judea" were practicing polytheists, consisting of the Canaanite pantheon* (aka the "villain" deities that Moses,the Judges, & the prophets warned against), and that the *cult of YHWH centered on El* (aka the core message of the Tanakh/Old Testament) was practically *the odd one out* ; basically "Israel" and "Judea" were only practicing the international established norms, and that the YHWH cult was the "antagonistic instigator"
in quite uncomfortable layman's terms, "Israel" and "Judea" were practicing the _status quo_ and that the YHWH cult are like what modern-day terms call the "far right", "antifa", etc.
@@盧璘壽로인수 They wouldn't be the those unless they were acting like them. They may have been the odd ones out, but there's probably way too much imputation to decide any of that. The video even talks about how the cultures in those times were functionally polytheistic, with a blend of religions, but Hezekiah brings back the monotheistic tradition that clearly existed en masse beforehand (remember, these priests who represented a long and storied tradition were the ones who convinced the king, not just a couple randos off the street).
So the idea that the monotheistic YHWH Jews had become a minority in those kingdoms isn't strange - that's even part of the narrative of the Bible. But that doesn't necessarily mean they were ever entirely irrelevant or powerless within that context, much less that they were some insurgent group that relied on violence or agitation to spread their message. I'd just be careful about connecting those dots so creatively.
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
I watch your one video couple of time to have a clear understanding. Very well drafted and explained. really awsome
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Actually there is no real disagreement if you studied the full text & the Assyrian king Sennacherib's prism aka the Hexagonal Taylor Prism
As it sounds like you missed it- that the bible speaks of the first tribute
2 Kings 18:13 Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them.
2 Kings 18:14 And Hezekiah king of Judah sent to the king of Assyria to Lachish, saying, I have offended; return from me: that which you put on me will I bear. And the king of Assyria appointed to Hezekiah king of Judah three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold.
2 Kings 18:15 And Hezekiah gave him all the silver that was found in the house of the LORD, and in the treasures of the king's house.
2 Kings 18:16 At that time did Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors of the temple of the LORD, and from the pillars which Hezekiah king of Judah had overlaid, and gave it to the king of Assyria.
2 Kings 18:17 And the king of Assyria sent Tartan and Rabsaris and Rabshakeh from Lachish to king Hezekiah with a great host against Jerusalem. And they went up and came to Jerusalem. And when they were come up, they came and stood by the conduit of the upper pool, which is in the highway of the fuller's field.
Yet Assyria talks of latter having Hezekiah "trapped like a bird in a cage" yet leaving Judah and thats where the bible writes of angels slaying Assyria and the king of Assyria actually dying as its historially aline
Some parts of this review was indeed disingenuous as
The Taylor Prism confirms the following points mentioned in scripture:
That Sennacherib was king of Assyria. 2 Chronicles 32:10: This is what Sennacherib king of Assyria says. The first lines of the prism: Sennacherib, the great king, the mighty king, king of the world, king of Assyria. For the full extent of what Sennacherib says about himself, see the footnote.[4]
Hezekiah was king of Judah. 2 Kings 18:1: In the third year of Hosea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz, king of Judah began to reign. Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not submit to my yoke.
Sennacherib captured all of the cities of Judah. 2 Kings 18:13: In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah’s reign, Sennacherib king of Assyria attacked all the fortified cities of Judah and captured them. The Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not summit to my yoke: Forty six of his strong, walled cities, as well as the small towns in the area, which were without number….I besieged them and took them.
Hezekiah paid tribute to Sennacherib which included 30 talents of gold. 2 Kings 18:14b: The king of Assyria extracted from Hezekiah king of Judah, three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. Taylor prism: In addition to the thirty talents of gold and eight hundred talents of silver.[5]
Hezekiah was confined in Jerusalem. 2 Kings 18:17-37: When Sennacherib was laying waste to the cities of Judah, only Lachish and Jerusalem were left and he had laid siege to Lachish, he sent officials to Hezekiah who was sheltering in Jerusalem. Taylor prism: …like a caged bird (Hezekiah) I shut up in Jerusalem.
Sennacherib was unable to take Jerusalem and capture Hezekiah. 2 Kings 19:35-36: That night the Angel of the LORD went out and put to death 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all dead bodies! So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there. Of course, Sennacherib does not mention this happening because it was embarrassing for such a proud man who was full of his own importance. But the fact that he never mentions that Jerusalem had fallen to his forces which would have been the crowning achievement of his champaign into Judah and that he had captured king Hezekiah, is strong testament to the truth of the scriptural account.
The ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote in about 450 BC in his book Histories, describe the operation being an Assyrian failure due to; a multitude of field-mice descending upon the Assyrian camp, devouring crucial material such as quivers and bowstrings, making the Assyrians unarmed and causing them to flee.[6] He does not appear to doubt that the incident happened, but rather to provide a non-spiritual reason for it. As well, Josephus records the incident stating; God had sent a pestilential distemper upon his army.[
All of his charts concerning the Bible are disingenuous like that.
I've also pointed out many mistakes in his other videos but those aren't mistakes, he purposefully spreads misinformation because it's his opinion that the bible is nothing more than tall tales created to imbue a sense of nationalism in the Jewish people after Babylon. So anything that contradicts that narrative is left to the wayside.
super interesting use of charts! 😲 felt like going back to school again but this time i enjoyed it haha. thank you for the video
Question: so at 15:48, Jeremiah 44 : 30 says it was "Zedekiah" of Judah who fell to Nebuchadnezzar, but your chart shows "Zechariah". Which name is correct historically?
The chart is wrong. It should be Zedekiah.
@@UsefulCharts Thanks for the reply.
@@UsefulCharts yeah
Keep in mind that the Pharaoh Shoshenq is not only the first historical person in the Bible, he is also the first published author, having penned his autobiography, "The Shoshenq Redemption" (later sold for movie rights).
@علي يا سر . Shoshenq specifically asked that Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins be in the movie. You can't deny a Pharaoh, right?
@memories2019ss TL;DR @Useful Charts's verdict is that David is a semi-legenedary figure
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@@盧璘壽로인수 no
Stephen King must have been his ghost writer then.
I love your series on Who Wrote the Bible! I have purchased two charts that are amazing. I'm trying to see if I connect to any Norse kings or queens through my genealogy. I have English and Spanish kings and queens in my genealogy, including George Washington who is my Mother's 8th cousin. I loved the video on how some of the presidents are connected. I knew I was related to Obama and Washington, but now I find that I'm probably related to all of them, too! I appreciate all your hard work. Thanks!
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
[Min: 10:38] Probably the biblical text you wanted to quote is in II Kings 19:9, not in I King 19:9.
Thank u for the contents of your channel. They are so instructive. I learn a lot with u, Matt.
Greetings from Paraguay. 😊 ✌️
wow. this is the real gold in the old testament. impressive. highly descriptive tradition at a time when this much couldn't have been done by a handful of memorizers.
You amaze me LORD Matt with every unexpected video I have never knew I needed
🤺☦🇷🇺You call him Lord?🤦♂️No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
I think I’m going to enjoy this episode since I like Egypt
Fascinating. Since I've had a class presentation of Ancient Egypt (literature) the other day, I've wanted to learn more.
I am blown away. Thank You Very Much
Please make a family tree of all pharaohs from menes to cleopatra
Note at 10:45, for Taharqa, its 2 Kings 19:9 not 1st Kings 19:9
To be honest, a plague of mice and an angel sent by God sounds like quite compatible records.
I'd like to see a video about Shoshenq's life in prison after being wrongfully convicted of murder. The Shoshenq Redemption.
*Assyrian king chose not to fuck around and find out*
"You can make a religion out of this"
I always appreciate your illustrations and details. Very interesting. 👍🤓
I cannot get enough of these videos, everytime I see a new one I just 😍😍😍😍
Thank you! I was having trouble sleeping, this video fixed that!
Excellent video.
As always, very educational.
Thank you for this great history
I second other comments. Love learning which Bible characters can be verified by history. Also so interesting how Bible characters and events are history, legend, or, oh my apologies, exaggerated (closer to fiction -- I forget the name of the 3rd category?).
🤺☦🇷🇺No, pagans, all of the events in the Bible are 100% correct. The Pharaoh of the oppressed and his daughter are Thutmose I and Hatshepsut, while the Pharaoh of the exodus is Thutmose III, so get education and repent lol
Correction: at 10:50, it should be 2Kings 19:9, not 1Kings
Very cool, thanks for this
I always liked Neco and Hophra. Excellent video.
Very informative
Hey matt, can you do a video of how you edit these videos and which software you use to do it?
Thank you
I thing UC have done one - poss in their reviews of user charts submitted.
He already has one, although he may have changed his software since then
Yes matt made a video but those were tutorials of how he designs posters on LibreOffice and Adobe!
I am speaking about how he edits and animates his posters into video format
@@mukarramali The animation might be the same as Geoff Marshall does for line maps. I think Vid Editing there are a couple of software programs. one on line on on local computer and they sometimes advertise on YT ads
@@highpath4776 Oh, will check them out. Hope these are Mac Compatible
50 persons from the Old Testament are mentioned in other historical records. 27 persons from the New Testament are mentioned in other historical records.
Many actual US Presidents are mentioned in comic book series, such as from DC in series such as Superman. Fictional works often use real-life figures or places to set their stories.
Very cool share more if you could
@@TheLionFarm Hello. I learned this information from the RUclips video "Forbidden History Dinosaurs and the Bible".
Great video, thank you
Small correction: @ 10:52 your reference is from 2 Kings 19:9
I think it was 1.Kings14:25 not 13Vers25. ( 2:47 min)
Great video!
Still waiting for Dynasties 1-18 and 21-31 in a Video 😁
Wow Great Video, Pls do a pharaoh dynasty video
ruclips.net/video/HaZmGPePdTg/видео.html
Speaking of the pharaoh of exodus
The story of Arsu the shasu and pharaoh Setnakhte is extremely similar to the moses story and the exodus.
In this story arsu the shasu and his followers took over egypt, destroyed all the temples and treated their gods like men.
Before finally pharaoh setnakhte forced arsu and his followers out of egypt , by this point cannan was no longer part of egypt.
This event happened around the bronze age collapse.
So maybe the moses story is just a memory of arsu.
I'm more partial to the story that Moses was an Amarnite priest expelled from Egypt after Akhenaten's death, but my opinion is based solely on vibes.
I'm more partial to the idea that he was Ramses II. We have a large Semitic city (Avaris) with a substantial slave population that gets abandoned during his reign, one generation before you get both a population explosion in Canaan and the first extra-Biblical mention of Israel (in the Merneptah Stele). The Torah seems to consistently use placenames from this period. It has an unusually high number of Egyptian loanwords compared to pretty much any other ancient document we have, and with many of them the root words are from roughly this period of Egyptian history. Which strongly suggests that the text or its sources ultimately date back to the Ramesside period.
Hi Matt! Just a kind request.. is it possible to put a chronological order of your videos from the beginning of time to current last e.g. Game of thrones? Hihi funny but i would like to study the proper timeline of men and (fiction) on its proper order? Gahh, big request. I know you’re busy but who knows, right? Teehee
Or we can email?
I haven’t watched this yet but when I was younger, I thought Pharoah was the name of the king and he just lived a really long time!
I wonder if you're ever going to do a video about the assorted theories on the participants of the Battle of Siddim. "Amraphel, king of Sennaar" for sure sounds like that could be Hammurabi!
Wikipedia doesn't say much about what the _modern_ opinion is, admittedly. AFAIK the chronology isn't quite right for most of the usual candidates, but IIRC there were several other rulers named Hammurabi in the area so it doesn't have to be the famous one specifically.
Oh if only this video came out two weeks ago. I work at a church and the scripture/sermon that weekend went over a bit of Joseph’s story in Genesis and I kept wondering which Pharaoh they were referring to. I spent an hour googling about it just to find out the information you provided in the first 40 seconds of this video.
So, you work at a church and are writing off most of the early Bible as fiction because that's what you heard in a youtube video?
The first 40 seconds is useless to all of us. Of course the Bible is true. You as someone who was entrusted to teach at a church of all places should know that.
Dr David Falk, an Egyptologist and Bible Scholar who runs the channel Ancient Egypt and the Bible, provides answers to just this sort of question both in his regular videos and in his weekly Q&A livestream. I don't think he's devoted an entire video to the question of which pharaoh was Joseph's, but he's said several times that it was one of the Hyksos pharaohs of the second intermediate period (and we don't have the full list of names of those pharaohs).
Who said I teach anything? I am the AV tech for the church lol.
@@stephengray1344 Thats not possibly true, in all religious books God specifically refers to the ruler at the time of Joseph as "king of Egypt" not hyksos.. I believe you are citing Zahi hawas who came up with this theory. But he is known to be a liar and a thief who misleads other about Egypt, Thats why he was kicked from his position in Egypt.
According to the portal, and according to your own narration, the cities attacked by Shishak AKA Shoshenq were in the north. How can Shoshenq/Shishak attack cities of his ally, Jehoboam? No city in the South, the area of Rehoboam is mentioned. Don't you smell a rat? Does that not suggest a contradiction of facts? The ally is Jeroboam and the Bubar Stile Portal records victories against the cities belonging to the ally? Is it possible that maybe aligning Shishak of the Bible with Shoshenq was a misrepresentation of the facts? Could it be that the two were totally different individual Pharaohs who reigned in different time periods under different dynasties?
No, I think that he attacked Israel while it was still united, which would make sense.
Another great video! I'm also here to advocate for an Oliver Cromwell video, again!
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Actually there is no real disagreement if you studied the full text & the Assyrian king Sennacherib's prism aka the Hexagonal Taylor Prism
As it sounds like you missed it- that the bible speaks of the first tribute
( ~2 Kings 18:13
Yet Assyria talks of latter having Hezekiah "trapped like a bird in a cage" yet leaving Judah and thats where the bible writes of angels slaying Assyria and the king of Assyria actually dying as its historially aline
Some parts of this review was indeed disingenuous as
The Taylor Prism confirms the following points mentioned in scripture:
That Sennacherib was king of Assyria. 2 Chronicles 32:10: This is what Sennacherib king of Assyria says. The first lines of the prism: Sennacherib, the great king, the mighty king, king of the world, king of Assyria. For the full extent of what Sennacherib says about himself, see the footnote.[4]
Hezekiah was king of Judah. 2 Kings 18:1: In the third year of Hosea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz, king of Judah began to reign. Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not submit to my yoke.
Sennacherib captured all of the cities of Judah. 2 Kings 18:13: In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah’s reign, Sennacherib king of Assyria attacked all the fortified cities of Judah and captured them. The Taylor prism: As for Hezekiah the Judahite who did not summit to my yoke: Forty six of his strong, walled cities, as well as the small towns in the area, which were without number….I besieged them and took them.
Hezekiah paid tribute to Sennacherib which included 30 talents of gold. 2 Kings 18:14b: The king of Assyria extracted from Hezekiah king of Judah, three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. Taylor prism: In addition to the thirty talents of gold and eight hundred talents of silver.[5]
Hezekiah was confined in Jerusalem. 2 Kings 18:17-37: When Sennacherib was laying waste to the cities of Judah, only Lachish and Jerusalem were left and he had laid siege to Lachish, he sent officials to Hezekiah who was sheltering in Jerusalem. Taylor prism: …like a caged bird (Hezekiah) I shut up in Jerusalem.
Sennacherib was unable to take Jerusalem and capture Hezekiah. 2 Kings 19:35-36: That night the Angel of the LORD went out and put to death 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all dead bodies! So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there. Of course, Sennacherib does not mention this happening because it was embarrassing for such a proud man who was full of his own importance. But the fact that he never mentions that Jerusalem had fallen to his forces which would have been the crowning achievement of his champaign into Judah and that he had captured king Hezekiah, is strong testament to the truth of the scriptural account.
The ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote in about 450 BC in his book Histories, describe the operation being an Assyrian failure due to; a multitude of field-mice descending upon the Assyrian camp, devouring crucial material such as quivers and bowstrings, making the Assyrians unarmed and causing them to flee.[6] He does not appear to doubt that the incident happened, but rather to provide a non-spiritual reason for it. As well, Josephus records the incident stating; God had sent a pestilential distemper upon his army.[
This reads intresting. Now it needs a link to the source
@@tobiasurey1434 if he allows links i would post
Yet just look up how the prism of the Assyrians confirms the seign and release of Judah
Allow me to submit the following information;
Sometime between 1670-1625 BCE, the cataclysmic eruption of Thera occurred. Either shortly before or after this event, the Hyksos were ejected from Egypt and subsequently fled en masse to Canaan. The pharoah of Egypt at that time was Ahmose I.
Can you change the colour yellow to another colour please, I'm finding it difficult to see the Names, when you use the yellow outline.Thanks.
Good video. Checked reference at [10:42]: it should be 2 Kings 19:9 instead of 1 Kings.
Also liked the maps at [4:00] of Egypt and [5:00] of Israel, Judah, & neighbors.
I'm not expert in ancient Egyptian to Aramaiac translation, but is there not a tremendous play in vowels in the written forms of both languanges. And that difference in pronunciation is all vowels.
I was told by an Egyptian that the word pharaoh was not an Egyptian word but was first used by the Greeks circa 300 BCE.
No, this Semitic word means big house or leader
My belief is that the Moses story had Inspiration in a different exile of a people/culture from Egpytian Society, in particular those that Prayed to the Sun God Aten under the leadership of Akhenaten the Heretic.
Mainly because 1. They all believe in One God and abandoned all others which alot of the society of Egypt HATED
2. They were exiled by Tutenkhamun in around mid 13th Centry from the Kingdom of Egypt but not the tributary states like the Levant for their heresy. This was 500 years before the Exodus story was based.
3. It is likely these Exiles would leave to a place like the levant due to similar religious practices in the area which still being under semi Egyptian protection as a client state type fashion. I distinctively remember that this area was hotly contested between themselves and the Hittites at the time? Maybe I am wrong on that but Egypt thought it was a area to keep ^^
Overall my belief is that the story of the Exodus is the written record of their linguistic story of a people from Egypt that left and integrated with the Jews in the area which us why in Exodus they are known as Jews, because when Exodus is written these people were Jews whom had integrated into Jewish society.
Please let me know your thoughts all of you x
when the jews arrived in the levant, it was filled with nations that worshipped many gods. not a mono god, nor their mono god. those nations had to be removed from the land that Jewish God had promised them. they were warned not to intermix with any of the people that remained because they worshipped false gods.
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was Tutankhamen's great-grandfather Tutmose (I forget wich number). If one looks at the traditional dating of the Exodus (c. 1400 bc - 1500 bc) and the traditional dating of the Pharaohs, this matches up. Also the Bible does not actually say that Pharaoh drowned, rather, his army drowned. Further still, looking at the name Moses, it resembles the names of a number of Pharaohs in this dinasty.
@@Midlife_Manical_Mayhem interesting you say that, you got that from the Jewis Bible right? Well as other videos on this channel have said, the section talking about 'intermixing' was made when Jews were established, not during the time of this Exile of these people. So it could be said that Jews would intermix with these people, definitely when they also believed in only one god, they could have even said its the same good in different names.
@@nathanjohnwade2289 thank you for supporting my theory ^^
Exodus was withRamses II is what evidence shows
3:05 should be 1 Kings 14, not chapter 13? 10:49 should be 2 Kings.
@13:00, when then did Samaritanism evolve?
Early in the Persian Period. As an alternative to those who wanted to build the temple in Jerusalem.
Good video thanks
no Shoshenq redemption joke? I admire your restraint
DR Douglas Petrovich an Egyptian archaeologist has several video lectures about the historical evidence about the Egyptian kings and the Bible.
I wonder how kings and emperor became a monarch in the first place. Can you please make a video on this topic? (21/8/22 11:20pm)
What about Hiram of Tyre? He is a historical person as well?
Yeah….interesting!
Awesome video - can you do a video on "Herods Mentioned in the Bible"?
I remember seeing a video that stated that even in the ancient/middle ages(if I'm not mistaken) that claimed Christian scholars(at least the truly committed ones) where aware that most of the bible was based on allegories is this true? Also given that the bible actually has historical figures that have been confirmed to be real people, is it possible that there are more characters in the bible that truly did existed but no evidence exist as of now?
It does seem that the more one literally digs, bits of evidence fit the written narratives.
" Also given that the bible actually has historical figures that have been confirmed to be real people, is it possible that there are more characters in the bible that truly did existed but no evidence exist as of now?"
The Spiderman comics mention real characters, both living and alive, that doesn't mean Doc Oc existed.
@@VolrinSeth Atheist scholars in the past used to say that King Nebuchadne II of Babylon is a myth
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Thats nonsense. First of all 'scholar' is not a protected term, anyone can call themselves a scholar. Secondly, there's no such thing as an atheist scholar. Atheism is not an ideology or philosophy, it doesnt guide or inform someone doing scientific research.
Finally, just because a[ person is mentioned that existed in history, doesn't mean the rest of the claims in that same story are true..
Really interesting topic, is there any way to see this family tree as a PDF or will this be part of a larger chart?
It will be part of a new book, coming out next year.
Really fascinating topic! Can u do a video on Harriet Tubman’s ancestry? I know not much is known, but it’ll be interesting to find out some info! ☺️
Can you make a video on the Bulgaria section of your Eastern European chart?
Good video, but although the video says "Zedekiah" the chart shows a King "Zechariah" of Judah. It should be Zedekiah. Thanks!
Technically Emperor Augustus was also a pharaoh.
So was Alexander
And AFAIK a bunch of the Persian rulers mentioned in the Bible, such as Darius, Xerxes, and Artaxerxes, were technically pharaohs as well.
I wonder if the Bible mentions Alexander the Great anywhere...
@@january1may
Hes mentioned briefly in 1 Maccabees 1:1-10-
“Now it came to pass, after that Alexander the son of Philip the Macedonian, who first reigned in Greece, coming out of the land of Cethim, had overthrown Darius king of the Persians and Medes: [2] He fought many battles, and took the strong holds of all, and slew the kings of the earth: [3] And he went through even to the ends of the earth, and took the spoils of many nations: and the earth was quiet before him. [4] And he gathered a power, and a very strong army: and his heart was exalted and lifted up. [5] And he subdued countries of nations, and princes: and they became tributaries to him.
[6] And after these things, he fell down upon his bed, and knew that he should die. [7] And he called his servants the nobles that were brought up with him from his youth: and he divided his kingdom among them, while he was yet alive. [8] And Alexander reigned twelve years, and he died. [9] And his servants made themselves kings every one in his place: [10] And they all put crowns upon themselves after his death, and their sons after them many years, and evils were multiplied in the earth.”
“Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia. And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.” Daniel 11:2-3.
@@january1may mentioned a few times in Daniel
I only watch when I hear Mats voice lol
Haha same here!
I HAVE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE NOW
Nitpick: 10:39: It would have been better if you'd coloured the word Tirhakah in the same green Taharqa is coloured, as opposed to the blue of Judah.
Based off FamilyTreeDNA, King Tutan Amun and I share the same common ancestor.
One correction: Shabaka was the brother of Pharaoh Piye, not his son.
Shabaka was named after the son of Cush (ancestor of sub-Saharans), called Seba (ancestor of Nilotic-khoisans = kingdom of Cush = Nubians = sudanese), and Shabaktu after Sabtekha (ancestor of Chads = also kingdom of Cush)
10:40 biblical reference is incorrect. It should be 2 kings 19:9
A recent doc had identified Ahmose I as the Pharoah that ran out the Hyksos in 1550 bce. At the same time as the eruption of Santorini. They have found this written on a Stella of Ahmose.
🤺☦🇷🇺Yes, and continued later with the 18th dynasty, when Thutmose I was the Pharoah of Moses' time in Egypt, his daughter Hatshepsut, was the Pharoah's daughter who saved Moses from the Nile, and Thutmose III, as Pharoah of the exodus
Can you please make the Ottoman empire history for the next video
A major gap in logic occurs at the 5’ mark, possibly representing a Bias of Useful Charts. Here, two major assumptions are made that led to the conclusion that because too few archaeological details are available to really know one way or the other, it must be that the Biblical narrative is wrong. First, not all of the text described on the tablet mentioned is now decipherable. Second, past archaeological studies’ authors have already drawn the conclusion, based on preliminary evidence, that the lack of archaeological evidence for the biblical narrative equals evidence of absence of biblical history to begin with. At this point, I stopped listening and transferred my attention to more promising investments of time.
SO much conjecture in the storyline here, and amazingly enough, it appears from many other comments that people simply accept it as truth.
You should do a chart on the legendary Skjoldung/Scylding dynasty of Denmark
Danes, as all Germanics, are the peoples of Magog (haplogroup I1)
For despite an impression given that the Qur'an accurately portrays later Egyptian rulers as “pharaohs” and earlier rulers as “kings,” the Qur'an actually only mentions two rulers of ancient Egypt: the Exodus pharaoh at the time of Moses-again, mentioned 128 times-and the Egyptian “king” at the time of Joseph.
Question: *Is Sargon II really the son of Tiglath-Pilesar III and the father of Sennacherib?* The Bible seems to not give enough time for the year reign of Sargon II. Could there be two kings of Assyria ruling at the same time, like a coregency?
That has been one of the questions , in terms of is there other written evidence ( even clay tablets ) that would give a better Assyrian etc timeline , either the Bible got it wrong, working later off falible sources, or there is a name omitted or added somewhere, or as you suggest if Assyria were so big it might need an effective Internal Ruler and External "secretary of state" ?
@@highpath4776 yes. Because both sources agree on the reign of Sargon II, I tend to believe the third option that there is a coregency between Shalmaneser V and his actual son Sennacherib (according to the Bible), and Sargon II.
It was at that time that King Achaz sent to *the kings of Ashur* to help him.
Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 28:16 CJB
So runners went with the letters from the king and his officers throughout all Isra’el and Y’hudah. They conveyed the king’s order: “People of Isra’el! Turn back to Adonai, the God of Avraham, Yitz’chak and Ya‘akov! Then he will return to those of you who remain, who escaped capture by *the kings of Ashur.*
Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 30:6 CJB
a large crowd was gathered to block all the springs and the stream flowing through the countryside. They reasoned, “Why should *the kings of Ashur* come and find an ample supply of water?”
Divrei-HamYamim Bet (2 Ch) 32:4 CJB
One needs to consider the sources of wealth between Israel and Judah. Israel in the north included what we now calk Lebanon. It’s natural resources are of the then Cedar forests. Judah controlling the south, would have included the Copper mines on the south eastern side of the Dead Sea. Although some say this was in Edom, there are religious statues there of Egyptian deities. This would then have ben under the control by the Judges for Egypt. By the time of Shishak, well after the Sea Peoples when Egypt. Was again in two realms if upper and lower, Upper being controlled by the priests leaving lower as more of a vassal state, and even Susennes , having moved the remnants of PiRamses to Tanis, had very little wealth. Although this was in the early days of the Iron Age, Copper for Bronze was still a major commodity and could be sold at high profit thereby creating great wealth. This was a prize that Shishak would want as it had been a source of wealth even through the 19th Dynasty. These mines would have slipped from Egyptian control when due to being so weakened and split, The Levant would have taken the initiative and set up their own kingdom., as they already had the rule of the area.
Hey, the link in the description of Ancient Egypt chart, actually goes to Greek Mythology Family tree, just a little mistake to fix.
I do enjoy hearing about these timelines and while the timeline itself and general information seems accurate, I do have to question some points in this one.
1- Early on he questions the strength of the Northern and Southern Kingdoms of Israel. Claiming that Jerusalem in Judah could not have been the location of Single rule for the United Kingdom. At the same Time he claims Single Rule and divided rule through out Egypt's history. So which is it? If a kingdom much larger than Israel could be ruled by a single king/pharaoh, why couldn't Israel?
Israel (Northern) held 10 Tribes of Israel while Judah (Southern) held 2. So it would make sense that The Northern Kingdom would have more strength or fighters over all. If you look at a Map you would also find Jerusalem to be a little South of Center of Unified Israel. This makes sense as in that day it would be rare to have your Capital near a border. You should also note that Jerusalem today is at the Southern Border of Israel (Northern Judah) .
It should also be known that 2 Tribes (20% , Judah) of Israel held 28.7% of the land mass and was not the first to fall. So which Kingdom was actually the strongest?
2- He claims Cush was not the Ethiopia of the Bible as Ethiopia was much further south. However, research will show that Older Maps identify Cush reaching far south into the Territory that is known as Ethiopia. It is also known that to those who speak or know Greek, Cush is a name for Cush and Ethiopia in many Greek writings and used interchangeably.
3- He also mentions the beginning of the Jewish Nation/People, while this may have been the official assignment of the term Jew and the Jewish religion, the belief systems were in place long before the fall of the Northern Kingdom. The Israelites were a Monotheistic long before the term Jew was used to describe them.
I can normally do some research to verify information provided in these Videos, but this one is a little off in some of the points and it took me less than 1 hr to verify.
Other than some of the statements in this video well done on the Timeline and the rest of the commentary, it is always a plus to put combine historic documents for a better descriptive analysis.
Why is Exodus normally translated without a "the" in front of Pharaoh?
Always wanted a house at Giza so I could say I had Pharohes at the bottom of my garden
When Jeroboam fled to Egypt, do you think he found his Shoshenq Redemption?
Whether Shoshenq I is Shishak is not definite. Not unless there are newer scholarships proving they are related or the same. He was only "presumed" but not definite if it was him.
But this pharaoh is in history
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Shoshenq I is historical, but not Shishak. Linking the two is merely based on presumptions and no definitive connection.
I understood from an old TV show that the reason shoshenq is “shishack” is a Hebrew pun in the similarity that name has to the Hebrew for “piece of dung”? I’d love to know from someone with ancient Hebrew knowledge if that’s true or cobblers…
I'm not aware of shuch a term. The dropping of the N is due to phonetic reasons.