We Need to Stop Following These "ART RULES"

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Gotta talk about these art rules.
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  • @samdoesarts
    @samdoesarts  Год назад +5577

    I hope this video helps you if you're looking for a way to draw side profiles for your characters. Too many art tutorial videos nowadays present only one right way to do things, and that's simply not true. There are exceptions to every art "rule." We need to start treating them as learning guides instead of absolute laws to live by.

  • @rashdagger3966
    @rashdagger3966 Год назад +11738

    Props to Sam for not ignoring the issue, but instead adressing the heart of it without getting caught up in the dramatics.

    • @BarneyHunter12sBiggestFan
      @BarneyHunter12sBiggestFan Год назад +58

      Agreed

    • @hadrianhexe9603
      @hadrianhexe9603 11 месяцев назад +88

      'Dramatics'....uhuh..sure

    • @Sekyebes
      @Sekyebes 11 месяцев назад +55

      Hmm dramatics ok

    • @amandaa8280
      @amandaa8280 11 месяцев назад +48

      ⁠@@CloudISemothat wasn’t what they were trying to say, probably more like “kooleen drama”

    • @hadrianhexe9603
      @hadrianhexe9603 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@amandaa8280 That doesnt make it sound better.

  • @monsterking7676
    @monsterking7676 Год назад +4100

    As a reminder that specific facial feature of the lips bypassing the line from nose tip to chin isn't soley a feature of black races, so feel free to put it on pretty much any character if you want them to have that face shape.

    • @soobabe
      @soobabe Год назад +474

      yeah theres tons of other people with these features, not to mention there are mixed races as well and ancestry things and everyone is unique and different
      art can be abstract or however u picture it, its ur own world

    • @quit3118
      @quit3118 Год назад +315

      @@soobabeFr like I have black characters who don’t have “black features” or 4c hair
      And some do
      Playing around with features is fun thought, the who world is full of diverse people! :3

    • @Moyaws
      @Moyaws Год назад +173

      So true, as an Asian myself, I have similar facial feature to this tutorial

    • @nafcatt8863
      @nafcatt8863 Год назад +66

      So true, as a south Asian, I’ve even many with this feature

    • @kzyomiyomi
      @kzyomiyomi Год назад +70

      holy crap im half Filipino and i have a bit of this feature too. it’s funny cuz Kooleen is literally Filipino as well 😂

  • @Vinzcafe
    @Vinzcafe 7 месяцев назад +903

    Im so glad that people of the art community are REALIZING that art tutorials should just be a BASIC understanding not a requirement. We are growing and its good.

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 5 месяцев назад +7

      My method is that I make shit up

    • @blulsixl1004
      @blulsixl1004 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@realdragoni use that method too bro, works everytime

  • @mickymcbryan4814
    @mickymcbryan4814 11 месяцев назад +1569

    As a mixed race person, I think what a lot of artists have to accept is that all sorts of people look all sorts of ways, and that all these rules are gonna not apply to someone. And even if you try to apply different rules to different types of people, you’re going to find people in that group who also break those rules and look different from how typing that group would suggest they “should” look.
    I think, in art, we have to stop drawing what we think people should look like, and start drawing what people look like to us on a case by case basis.

    • @treesspeaklatin8950
      @treesspeaklatin8950 11 месяцев назад +134

      EXACTLY why references are so important.. I get mad when people make rules for drawing guys and girls too. Like, not every girl is gonna have curves and an hourglass figure and not every guy is gonna have broad shoulders

    • @marinKem
      @marinKem 11 месяцев назад +16

      Also as a mixed race person, I agree:)

    • @EsmeraldaArmstrong
      @EsmeraldaArmstrong 10 месяцев назад +21

      Idk sometimes people just don't know how to draw us either that or they are scared. If your art has a specific style and or your used to something specific it can be hard to re wire how you draw. I draw A lot of POC people mainly because I am one. I am not critical of people who draw generally white characteristics/ stuff that doesn't look like me, I don't care because l do the same thing but with people of color.

    • @terrancevanliew1814
      @terrancevanliew1814 9 месяцев назад +13

      The rules EXIST to be broken. Like the loomis facial thirds. Having some standard to keep in mind is how you notice what makes your subject unique.
      It doesn't even matter if the standard is truly representative of the average person, so long as it gets you focusing on aspects of a face people are likely to notice the most.

    • @skettlu2344
      @skettlu2344 8 месяцев назад +3

      what about anime

  • @PndaPlaysMinecraft
    @PndaPlaysMinecraft Год назад +8722

    I’m glad Sam didn’t become apart of the drama. He is always so calm. ✌️

  • @kefidog9109
    @kefidog9109 Год назад +5961

    I love that Sam focuses on teaching us art babies how to fix the issue rather then just talking about the problem

    • @soobabe
      @soobabe Год назад +97

      exactly, breaking it down and giving out beneficial information like this is always good
      thats why we love sam 🙏

    • @sodaafizzz
      @sodaafizzz Год назад +18

      @@soobabe EXACTLYY

    • @Earthlinglocated_2
      @Earthlinglocated_2 11 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed 💯🔥

    • @Zanariah2
      @Zanariah2 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yep one of the reasons I love Sam ☺️❤️

    • @Zanariah2
      @Zanariah2 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@soobabeexactly like that helps us a lot in our art journey

  • @gaymegayng3792
    @gaymegayng3792 8 месяцев назад +32

    I LOVE WHEN ARTISTS ADDRESS "rules" that are really just tropes or usages of measurement to help an individuals process. Great usage of your guests' content.

  • @indigovae3579
    @indigovae3579 11 месяцев назад +51

    My mind is absolutely blown at the fact that a tiny detail can change SO MUCH in a character!

  • @K0L0N3
    @K0L0N3 Год назад +6248

    i love how everyone is now starting to realize how ridiculous some of these “art tips” are.

    • @pokebattler1812
      @pokebattler1812 Год назад +273

      I mean theyre not necessarily outrageous like in this case theyre very useful in quick anime animations its just people take them too literally and apply it to everything even where you shouldn't

    • @lunemlp
      @lunemlp Год назад +78

      frr, everyone have their own art style

    • @Unairu_PSF
      @Unairu_PSF Год назад +172

      @@lunemlp Thats true but style doesnt mean you can completely ignore things such as anatomy which are art tips. Get 2 different full body sketches from 2 completely different styles, and if you look at it in the end the way the anatomy was built is the same.

    • @lunemlp
      @lunemlp Год назад +58

      @@Unairu_PSF yes!! it depends on the art tip too, some are based only on stereotypes and others are useful and real tips, I think this difference matters a lot, beginner artists should have this filter and this should also be talked about more

    • @Xanyia
      @Xanyia Год назад +3

      I'm ur 1k like! :)

  • @jin.jinnss
    @jin.jinnss Год назад +2162

    SamDoesFacts

    • @Saturnthe_Sleepyhead
      @Saturnthe_Sleepyhead Год назад +21

      CANONN!

    • @SourSkittlesLover
      @SourSkittlesLover Год назад +13

      YES

    • @arcaneari_lovely
      @arcaneari_lovely Год назад +12

      Exactly

    • @floorijzerman
      @floorijzerman 11 месяцев назад

      His art sucks, literally just paints over pictures of instagram girls. generic af.
      why do unskilled youtube artists alwaye think they're some kind of art geniuses.
      this guy shouldve gone to artschool instead of drawing minors 😂

    • @KellyLuvsYou
      @KellyLuvsYou 11 месяцев назад +10

      Love this comment 😂❤

  • @Hadeshy
    @Hadeshy Год назад +55

    As a rule, if I see a thumbnail be like "don't do this, do this" or "bad, ok", "no, yes" and such, I completely ignore it.

  • @Daisiest
    @Daisiest 11 месяцев назад +474

    It's great that instead of bullying and insulting the artist who caused the drama with her words Sam chose to make it into educational video. I saw people starting to insult her and calling her art ugly and boring and how it has anything to do? Is it really a right response to the situation? I doubt that, so it's great to see that people like Sam exist in the art community

    • @xyzabc-nu3vd
      @xyzabc-nu3vd 11 месяцев назад +89

      People have all the right to get mad at her. Idk why y'all think poc are dumb and don't know how to react to shit like this.

    • @dododunkin
      @dododunkin 11 месяцев назад +8

      @LOVE-510 I agree with you guys so much

    • @dododunkin
      @dododunkin 11 месяцев назад

      @@xyzabc-nu3vd yeah i think so too

    • @xyzabc-nu3vd
      @xyzabc-nu3vd 11 месяцев назад +87

      @LOVE-510 the targetted groups are not obligated to "educate" everyone. This is the year 2023, if one has the audacity to make remarks like that it's pretty straight forward- they are ignorant. They deserve the wrath coming their way

    • @xyzabc-nu3vd
      @xyzabc-nu3vd 11 месяцев назад +74

      @LOVE-510 "exactly why I hate art community"
      Oh I see, people raising their voice against social ills that affect them is what you hate to see huh🤐 lol

  • @someoneontheinternet580
    @someoneontheinternet580 Год назад +2007

    I love that you and Ethan take the moment of this controversy to foucus on _constructive_ ways on how to draw different head shapes, instead of joining in on the _drama_

    • @bookeater1599
      @bookeater1599 11 месяцев назад +33

      I don’t need someone explaining their side of the drama. What I needed was an explanation on why it was wrong and how to work around it. And I’ve been looking for a lesson on different facial structures so Sam and Ethan came in clutch.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 11 месяцев назад

      He doesn’t tho. They don’t expressively tell you that there is nuance in proportions, instead they try to tell that it’s wrong and then cherry-pick examples where it doesn’t apply.

    • @someoneontheinternet580
      @someoneontheinternet580 11 месяцев назад +25

      @@zzodysseuszz
      umm, yes he does…
      _„They try to tell you it’s wrong“_
      Let’s have a look at just the first two minutes:
      At 0:46 he starts with an example where the guideline does apply, and only then proceeds to show with another example that it doesn’t apply all the time though.
      After that he elaborates that guidelines are just that, that their purpose is merely to _„help you learn“, „to make it easier to draw your characters“._
      _“They don‘t expressively tell you that there is nuance in proportions“_
      He not only _tells_ it:
      10:11 _“That‘s why it’s not a rule and we can always go beyond the boundaries of these ✅❎ arttips.“_ He then goes on to criticise that there’s no more _nuance_ in this world and shows artworks that *are* more „nuanced“.
      But he also *shows* it:
      He shows faces where the guideline applies, where faces exceed the chin-nose-line and when he draws his own face he shows that some faces don’t exceed or follow but actually fall short of the line.
      „They […] cherry pick examples where it doesn’t apply“
      That is not cherrypicking. He elaborated and proved that it sometimes works and then shows methods how more African looking side profiles can be achieved, for which he uses - surprise - African faces.
      Do you even watch videos before commenting?

    • @Anyone-br8jh
      @Anyone-br8jh 11 месяцев назад

      @@someoneontheinternet580og

    • @jimmythe-gent
      @jimmythe-gent 11 месяцев назад +1

      Its almost like there are differences in facial features (in general) between the different races...

  • @IfritZero
    @IfritZero 9 месяцев назад +163

    I draw like over 1000 people every year as a live caricature artist. Face shapes are all over the place and aren’t really tied to any race or ethnicity. There are so many exceptions I see to these guidelines. Have fun and play with facial shape possibilities!

  • @Apersonwithmuscles
    @Apersonwithmuscles 11 месяцев назад +26

    I feel like this is one of the most mature responses to….everything that’s happened. Getting at the heart of the issue and just using it as a way to educate everyone is the best response

  • @Opalescent_Sun
    @Opalescent_Sun Год назад +2462

    0% drama. 100% learning. That's what art is all about! Thank you, Sam, for sharing your knowledge!

    • @sweetie_buns
      @sweetie_buns Год назад +78

      Why is everyone keep saying this is drama,this is actually a big issue in the art community

    • @mksketchms
      @mksketchms Год назад +102

      ​@@sweetie_bunsexactly like every non black person has suddenly termed it as a drama just because they don't understand. The apology is not even theirs to accept but they're like i, a non black person forgive that artist so now if you being black have an issue with it you're just being dramatic. Like?? It's not drama?? It's an actual issue??

    • @sweetie_buns
      @sweetie_buns Год назад +36

      @@mksketchms right the entire idea that this ok art advice what people are complaining about how it isn’t and what drama is their? I only see people explaining the issue

    • @tantotheraider2425
      @tantotheraider2425 Год назад +2

      ​@@mksketchms... that is drama.

    • @jaysax7381
      @jaysax7381 Год назад +45

      @@tantotheraider2425don’t be dense. The way most of these comments are reducing it to simply JUST “drama” in a flippant and dismissive way ignores that it’s actually an issue to think critically about; not some cornball discourse. There’s the difference.

  • @justafan4885
    @justafan4885 Год назад +2136

    The issue is people forget that face shapes differ as much as bodies.. the race isn't always part of it too! people are simply shaped differently :)
    nothing is wrong with how anyone looks like, you are great the way you are
    we are supposed to look (even if so lightly) different

    • @soobabe
      @soobabe Год назад +80

      everyones unique and its completely natural, keep speaking facts 🙏

    • @supernova_29
      @supernova_29 Год назад +52

      Yeah my top lip kind of sticks out a bit because of my front teeth, I’m getting braces soon for that but yeah. That’s why I hate these stupid yes and no art tips.

    • @Luh_katkat
      @Luh_katkat Год назад +8

      Perfectly ugly we are 😢

    • @Luh_katkat
      @Luh_katkat Год назад +23

      @@soobabe uniquely ugly in our own ways

    • @sebo641
      @sebo641 Год назад

      It's not race. Race is not a real thing. All humans today and for the past 200 thousand years are part of the same race.

  • @pretendimnothere8371
    @pretendimnothere8371 11 месяцев назад +192

    Tbh I'm kind of glad this drama happened, if it weren't for that we wouldn't have any tutorials like this coming out. It brought a lot of awareness to something the art community was lacking. I'm glad something positive came out of this! :)

    • @Goth_Bat
      @Goth_Bat 11 месяцев назад +13

      Fr im glad it not only brought forward discussion about a pressing issue in the community, but also great advice to help artists create different characters and races.

    • @kato093
      @kato093 7 месяцев назад +2

      Mmm...what is the "pressing issue"? I'm confused.

  • @thestraltheundead4093
    @thestraltheundead4093 11 месяцев назад +20

    I love how you atleast addressed the wrong and not ignored it. Theres only three artists that I have subscribed too you,scott and jazza. Y'all very nice and give me happiness when I am at worse point of my life

  • @AutisticArmadilloShrimp
    @AutisticArmadilloShrimp Год назад +1233

    We love Sam for educating us you are a saint my guy

    • @Saturnthe_Sleepyhead
      @Saturnthe_Sleepyhead Год назад +7

      HE IS AN ANGEL SENT BY GOD HIMSELF TO HELP US ON OUR ART JOURNEYS

  • @alliu6562
    @alliu6562 Год назад +1630

    In summary, for what Sam didn’t outright say: “do this not that” or “never do this” art tips SUCK. They are not the final ending to your art journey and they should never be treated that way.

    • @Sapphire_Online
      @Sapphire_Online Год назад +21

      We can keep going without the chicken scratches, though. Makes me feel like I forgot to grab my glasses, lol.

    • @safaiaryu12
      @safaiaryu12 11 месяцев назад +30

      Honestly, these art tips are more like... this is how you draw in MY STYLE and MY STYLE is the only RIGHT STYLE. But also, the artists who do this tend to have same face syndrome. So I'm not impressed. 😂 Probably says a lot that the more experienced artists never post videos like that...

    • @se0jun.mp3
      @se0jun.mp3 11 месяцев назад +8

      art tips don't suck. they're just meant to make art easier. they only start to suck when you take them as the fucking law. your fault, not the tip.

    • @z_.5557
      @z_.5557 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@se0jun.mp3 You forget how impressionable young artists are. It's up to them to pick the tips they wanna follow, but content creators should be aware of the shit they're putting out too.
      If you're gonna teach someone, don't screw them over FFS.

    • @se0jun.mp3
      @se0jun.mp3 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@z_.5557 It wasn't bad advice. It was an art tip the whole goddamn art industry uses, including the masters, so get your shit right.
      The only mistake you can make as a teacher in this circumstance is outright telling them you have to follow the art tip like a book.

  • @nanattechi
    @nanattechi Год назад +18

    you are a literal art god, sam. making drama into a learning experience got my complete respect.

  • @mariafranchi3751
    @mariafranchi3751 11 месяцев назад +1

    About a year ago I couldn’t watch any of your content, but recently you‘be got so calm and informative, I’m hooked! Thank you

  • @eli-nv9ov
    @eli-nv9ov Год назад +361

    as an artist, art tips that said “do this” or “don’t do that” really held me back for a long time. finding amazing creators like sam is such a great thing that’s happened to me and my art and I appreciate it, love you sam

    • @VOgaming51official
      @VOgaming51official 7 месяцев назад +3

      "stop drawing like this..."

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 5 месяцев назад +2

      The best art advice I've seen was "look at picture and reference picture". It applies not only to shapes but also to how light works

  • @moixty
    @moixty Год назад +998

    i love the fact that sam mainly draws lighter skinned people, but still takes the time to understand other ethnic features and ways to draw them

    • @MakoX623
      @MakoX623 Год назад +95

      yeah, because of the drama. Everyone's heavily policing how artists should draw POC features now because if you get one thing wrong, you're automatically "racist" lmfao

    • @halmittens
      @halmittens Год назад +396

      @@MakoX623 🤦 your take is HORRENDOUS, imma explain why the recent drama exists rq:
      Kooleen specifies she only draws "beautiful people", then she has never drawn POC, sharing art tips that aren't inclusive to face shapes, eye shapes, lip shapes etc.
      its not just a race thing, its also abt what people consider beautiful being so unrealistic and flat.

    • @kouignzz
      @kouignzz Год назад +285

      ⁠@@MakoX623not rlly lol. Kooleen doesn’t draw features outside of Eurocentric and is constantly promoting only drawing “beautiful people”. Of course, you don’t have to draw black people, but people still need to understand that “different features ≠ ugly”. Unlike Kooleen, Sam does draw many characters with lighter skin, but he doesn’t actively promote only drawing “beautiful people”. I hope this made sense

    • @bluejae1396
      @bluejae1396 Год назад +109

      @@kouignzz what you said is absolutely correct, but I would like to add the fact that Kooleen has stated many times that when she says “only draw beautiful people,” she isn’t referring to attractiveness but rather symmetrical features, as symmetry is easier for beginner artists. I think she made a mistake and didn’t mean to offend anyone, but it’s good to correct said mistake. People seem to ignore or not know this specific detail and I would like to provide it to better help people form an unbiased opinion on the matter :)

    • @kouignzz
      @kouignzz Год назад +28

      @@bluejae1396 ah i see. Thanks for the info :D

  • @berbrdoobee
    @berbrdoobee 11 месяцев назад +1

    i love u sm sam, u motivated me to start doing art again after a while. i took a break because i was unmotivated and didnt like my art. i started watching u on yt after some tiktoks of u and i havent stopped and since then i started putting more effort into my art because its something im passionate about. tysm for doing what u do and im glad ur staying out of drama haha

  • @maironelfstone896
    @maironelfstone896 5 месяцев назад +9

    This is why references are important. It's easy to get caught up in the little tips and tricks and forget to just look at real life

  • @Simple_0123
    @Simple_0123 Год назад +507

    Basic lesson - Different people, different shapes. Nobody looks exactly the same. And sometimes, its an art style, sometimes its realistic. Just have fun when your drawing.

  • @gingeworkshop
    @gingeworkshop Год назад +272

    Love how you turned a controversy into an actually helpful tutorial on a difficult subject to draw. Kudos :)

  • @witheringlunatic
    @witheringlunatic 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you! I’ve been having a hard time drawing lips on side profiles and this helps a lot with the general “rules” that can help me draw. You’re awesome!

  • @aimesjames2439
    @aimesjames2439 11 месяцев назад +3

    I always had a problem sketching side profiles but once I found out about this new method it helped soo much, thanks for always teaching us art babies sam ❤

  • @sketchy-chan
    @sketchy-chan Год назад +678

    a round of applause to sam for actually addressing the issue instead of getting into the drama

    • @sweetie_buns
      @sweetie_buns Год назад +53

      What drama? Like anytime a subject has a discussion why is it drama?

    • @sketchy-chan
      @sketchy-chan Год назад +10

      @@sweetie_buns because some people just shout their opinions and stuff get mixed up, when they could address the issue calmly to come at it directly and get a direct answer.

    • @sweetie_buns
      @sweetie_buns Год назад +54

      @@sketchy-chan the expressing there opinion are the people that are affected,their talking about the issue,this issue isn’t new it’s one of the smaller issues

    • @sketchy-chan
      @sketchy-chan Год назад +5

      @@sweetie_buns exactly, but i really don't understand why they have to shout about it, because it can all be resolved with an actual direct conversation

    • @cybergalacticnova
      @cybergalacticnova Год назад +61

      @@sweetie_buns The main drama is that the "wrong" rule was also referred/explicitly said and written as "gorilla looking mf" and that did NOT sit right with a lot of black people. Obvious reason bc that face type does exist, but also "gorilla looking" was used in derogatory ways to describe black people.

  • @clairecandycake4094
    @clairecandycake4094 Год назад +131

    Very straightforward no bs, art has no boundaries!

    • @soobabe
      @soobabe Год назад +4

      yep exactly

  • @peleber9678
    @peleber9678 Год назад +10

    2:06 is the most hillarious bit on your channel yet. Just that genuine "he really REALLY inspired me" and the Ethan, all serious lmao

  • @Fluff_Noodles
    @Fluff_Noodles 11 месяцев назад +2

    This video is so calm, helpful, easy to understand and apply, and educational! I had stopped watching after the controversy but this video made me love Sam again 😭💕 So happy to have an artist I can enjoy watching 💕💕💕💕

  • @Game_Erica
    @Game_Erica Год назад +171

    I've always hated when people try to act like there's a right and wrong way to draw something. I much more prefer when people just show different ways to draw something without telling you you're drawing something wrong

    • @Gaia_Gaistar
      @Gaia_Gaistar 8 месяцев назад

      People been wrongly taught race is only skin color. There's a lot more to it than that.

    • @kato093
      @kato093 7 месяцев назад

      And that's why nowadays we have Banksy instead of Donatello, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci etc...
      Skin texture with pores and veins on MARBLE?! Majestic.
      Nowadays we get "BIg LiPs nO fOllOw RuLes. mE mAkE NeW RuLe jUsT fOr BlAckS, So unReAliStic UglY cArtOon DraWinG bE RePreSeNTaTioN anD vIrtUe SigNal".
      This shit is so cringe that when I hear "art community" all I imagine is the WORST Tumblr gay porn and "fanart" from a 20yo doing RUclips videos while struggling on student debt, just so they can throw everything they learned and make stuff up.

    • @joutakujo9773
      @joutakujo9773 6 месяцев назад

      @@kato093 I'm kinda interested how bad it is. Do you have a link to the worst Tumblr gay porn? I know it's easy to find like straight ones because of the pornbots.

    • @kato093
      @kato093 6 месяцев назад

      @@joutakujo9773 no 😂 I don't use Tumblr or seek that trash. Ive Just seen some bad stuff posted by people on Twitter and reddit from Tumblr. It's pretty disgusting shit.
      Mainly animals, with prolapsed assholes getting a lot of stuff being done to it.
      No idea why gay people are so into eating shit btw.
      Is it like a statement "no, assholes aren't dirty" because they can have "sex" only with that? Cuz that is beyond disgusting.

  • @SSST4VRLLL
    @SSST4VRLLL Год назад +125

    THE ART FATJER HAS POSTED YET ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @skowog
    @skowog Год назад +2

    Thanks Sam for taking the time to fully expand on Ethan's video! It's very helpful not just to be able to draw different ethnicities, but also to be able to push the guidelines and make unique characters that also are recognizably from different backgrounds. This is very powerful advice!

  • @kikikikikikikikikiki
    @kikikikikikikikikiki Год назад +8

    Ethan’s video actually blew my mind when I first saw it lol, you guys are def helping us baby artists improve!

  • @artistacansada
    @artistacansada Год назад +747

    the problem in my opinion is not the damn triangle, but her saying that she "looks like a gorilla". we don't have to be very smart to know that that wasn't cool.

    • @sundus928
      @sundus928 Год назад +69

      Yeah , even in the thumbnail Sam removed that part 😂. But hey ! Atleast they look out for eachother.

    • @Ryuuko-chan
      @Ryuuko-chan Год назад +114

      In this video Sam is focusing on the drawing's guidelines and the general side of the wrong vs right art tips concept. He's not interested in addressing the drama itself like other people do, at least not in this video.
      Many asked for the apology, and as requested, Kooleen apologised for her wrong doing and saying (on IG) to the people who were genuinely hurt and offended by it, but not to her haters.

    • @sarahkins_bihh
      @sarahkins_bihh Год назад +138

      Thats what im saying. I love that they are addressing her problematic viewpoints of art buttttt the issue is the blatant racist remark to black features
      And people keep diminishing it like its not a big deal. And i liked kooleen so i just wanna know whats up with that. Fuck the triangle 💀

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV Год назад +60

      But we should remember Kolleen is only referring to ONE picture and not to a specific race (being the picture is of a black person is immaterial), the same ridicule and insult can be applied to European and Asian people TOO. It’s not Race specific.
      We have seen numerous characters and cartoons that has White character drawn looking like Gorillas. There are real White people who look like gorilla, a horse or monkeys. If you watch Anime you can see numerous portrayals of of white blond people who look like dogs or gorillas.
      If we gonna criticize Kolleen it’s more her type of IDEALIZATION, which you’ll notice is more of pretty Asian boy or girl type of features. Even her "Caucasian" guys looks more like pretty boy Asian.
      Lastly, Kolleen channel isn’t really an "Educational", even Sam and Ethan aren’t really a educational channels too. They’re meant for entertainment and amusement. Of course we get some snippets and some really good advise, but that’s not their real intentions.
      If Kolleen blows her entertainment factor, then it’s her fault, she must make up for it. Though calling her Racist for one video is too big of a stretch, since we really don’t know her personally , we don’t know also those who make those grandizing comments and the so called virtue signalers. They could be really upright people, I don’t know.
      I just hate people when they make quick right/wrong assumptions, no shades of grey. Such a thing is much more dangerous and bigoted.

    • @sarahkins_bihh
      @sarahkins_bihh Год назад +155

      @@inisipisTV thats a far out excuse and im sorry but im so exhausted hearing it. For one, kooleen has altered exaggerated proportions before. Never once calling them gorilla looking until then. Ive watched her videos but if there is an example of when she did it then my mistake. But with that being said, we are not gonna keep using ignorance as a means to excuse racist comments. If i made a subtle jab at her asian features, is it okay? No. Comparing black people to primates is literally a common racist remark to the point where ignorance doesn't work here. Im not sorry. She didnt even apologize for the comment, she apologized for being ignorant about art rules(which is valid to an extent).
      Im really trying to understand why people are defending that ridiculous comment 🗿

  • @yuzisanx
    @yuzisanx Год назад +261

    I was literally Thinking when kooleen fixed the black woman drawing that "the eye is in the wrong place" but she ended up fixing the whole structure

    • @cybergalacticnova
      @cybergalacticnova Год назад +113

      And the original artist did not like what was "fixed" too. They submitted the art bc they want _actual_ advice/criticism that Kooleen didn't even give.

    • @Thatd3addoll
      @Thatd3addoll 11 месяцев назад +17

      No the eye was too far back, it should have been closer to the nose than to the ear, in that part it was correct but the chin wasn’t

    • @YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah
      @YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah 11 месяцев назад +36

      @@Thatd3addoll
      Why are you saying no? That’s exactly what OG said

  • @yukiHanaSs
    @yukiHanaSs Год назад +1

    Iam so happy that sam is so calm!!!! He uses his heart to make the drama go away! And tysm for the tip!

  • @smokytau418
    @smokytau418 11 месяцев назад +1

    holy my art just got better, thank you!
    i literally cant believe how drastically your simple tutorial changed my art, i wanna watch more of your tutorials now

  • @glamgurl63
    @glamgurl63 Год назад +85

    I love that sam ended up talking about it and educating us babys

  • @inking.mistake57
    @inking.mistake57 Год назад +37

    Sam's videos do really help me get motivation to draw, i can always learn something new or just watch about things i already knew. I'm happy that Sam stayed out of the drama and actually tried to teach us that drawing a side profile has no rules and easy ways how we can draw side profiles. as a person that struggles to draw side profiles these ways seem to actually be simple and understandable, i just want to thank Sam for being here to teach us and also for being so calm

  • @shawnrobertson9618
    @shawnrobertson9618 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love the distinction of “guides” not rules. Guides give you a way into a drawing but then you can compare with life or photo reference to see what is unique to your subject. And those unique parts are what really bring the drawing to life. Thanks, Sam!

  • @The.Flying.Editor
    @The.Flying.Editor 11 месяцев назад +6

    This is why using visual references from real life are so important!! Relying on guidelines can be helpful, especially for beginners, but it can also get echo-chambery and risks making you stagnant in your art (ie you start assuming there are no exceptions to the guidelines and accept them as rules). Looking at real pictures will always force you to see details you wouldnt have considered, such as the nose/lip/chin ratio as shown in the video. Great explanations all around!!! I definitely learned something from this :)

  • @SparrowesArtStories
    @SparrowesArtStories Год назад +13

    I'm so glad you brought this up! There's no such thing as a 'perfect face', and embracing the differences and unique qualities of these subjects is what makes the results so much more interesting and realistic. I definitely want to keep this method as a reference in the future!
    Also, thank you so much for making this channel. I've been following it for awhile now, and it's what inspired me to start an art RUclips of my own! Your art and advice are so real and good in a world where there's so many 'hacks' and cheap art tips. I actually learned how to draw better because of you, unlike so many other channels!

  • @CreativeSteve69
    @CreativeSteve69 Год назад +14

    I just tested out the method along with ya Sam on paper. It actually helped me understand making heads a bit better. Glad to have found the art community. It's been a blast learning from both you and than to help me as a art baby slowly grow overtime. :)

  • @cloud1blob2cat34
    @cloud1blob2cat34 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love Sam’s typical content, but I really thought this video in particular was very useful and well put together. I can proudly say that a single video has thought me more about face proportions than a week of art school. Sam pls make more videos about other body proportions ❤

  • @bubbleming1366
    @bubbleming1366 Год назад

    I love how you and ethan are not discussing much of the drama but more of there technical aspects of it. to teach people that there are always other ways. I have gained loads of respect for you! :)

  • @sodaafizzz
    @sodaafizzz Год назад +51

    Hes absolutely always right, you don't have to follow a certain rule in art you just draw, and make it creative.

  • @cosmicsam117
    @cosmicsam117 Год назад +8

    I’ve always had a hard time drawing side profiles. But this video helped so much oh my goodness. Sam I can’t thank you enough!

  • @leafu8899
    @leafu8899 Год назад +3

    you’re really good at looking a picture and knowing how to map it out 😭 one day i wanna get that good man

  • @phantom13313
    @phantom13313 11 месяцев назад

    This video helped me so much with profiles, i just meet your channel, but you already won my attention! Thanks, Sam!!

  • @StudioKelpie1993
    @StudioKelpie1993 Год назад +320

    It's almost as if different races will have different physical apperances oOo
    When will these "Artists" realize that not everyone is going to fit into the perfect "One size fits all" structure?

    • @kaiheejeu
      @kaiheejeu Год назад +56

      Even most artist knows this. It's mostly people who only know how to draw one way and try to apply that as a set rule when we all have different styles

    • @YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah
      @YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah 11 месяцев назад +16

      Most of us know that. This is just what happens when you create tutorials when you’re also learning yourself

    • @NilimaMittal
      @NilimaMittal 7 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, if artist wanna draw the stereotype people then let them. Want special? Commision them

    • @oogawa13kokomi
      @oogawa13kokomi 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think a lot of people don't do enough life studies of the different shapes the human face can have. They stick to their box that is their style and don't branch out. Not saying that is wrong but it is wrong to tell others that your way is the right way, because that really gives beginners the wrong impressions

  • @aqvanii
    @aqvanii Год назад +16

    The curve is such a smart idea omg, that‘ll help me a ton, thanks :D

  • @daijishinomori9161
    @daijishinomori9161 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for this! It certainly breaks that notion in my head that facial profiles are done only in a certain way. We definitely need a reminder like this.😊

  • @aria_belle
    @aria_belle 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for this! I always struggle with side profiles and this helps a lot.

  • @kingryuuka7018
    @kingryuuka7018 Год назад +4

    I'm happy a lot of artists are actually using this as an experience to learn. I've learned a lot about how to draw different people in my style! Growing your art is never a bad thing!

  • @pollylyre
    @pollylyre Год назад +26

    This is so true. I ended up taking a picture of myself in that position, and guess what? My bottom lip goes over the line, but my top lip sits right over the line! To draw myself, I would need to merge the two methods! Unfortunately, the technique Ethan uses doesn't work for my face.
    Being Brazilian is about remembering that in our country, we are so mixed and that this is something that makes us unique! Just like all countries where miscegenation occurs frequently!
    Thank you, Sam, for touching on this important subject in such a didactic way.

  • @King_Eris
    @King_Eris 11 месяцев назад

    i love ur videos so much! alnog with being entertaining and funny, you are always helpful! as an art baby, you are one of the most genuinely improving my art people out there.

  • @Jimmyneutron19988
    @Jimmyneutron19988 11 месяцев назад

    This is so helpful for character design of all ethnicities! I love paying attention for the small details and this video helped me to improve! TY!

  • @Reapers_Summits
    @Reapers_Summits Год назад +56

    This isnt only a lesson for the babies, but a lesson for mediocre/professional artists too! Love that, and I hope Kool-aid sees this and learns too! No bad intentions behind my remark about her, just hope she improves, like we all should. Love all of your guys' content. Ethan, Kool-aid, and you have taught me a lot, thanks.
    ✍️😚

  • @rein4798
    @rein4798 Год назад +149

    I'm so glad to see guides for drawing non-white people. I do art as a hobby and I usually draw people closest to me, I've been struggling to find guides or tips to make drawing easier particularly black people because of my boyfriend and I'm always so happy to find some helpful way to draw him and other non-white people!!

    • @bigfatbahamamamas9314
      @bigfatbahamamamas9314 Год назад +10

      highly recommend looking to black artists for more information and inspiration to draw from!

    • @thetechnocrat4979
      @thetechnocrat4979 11 месяцев назад

      Indians, middle easterners and many others have similar facial features to ' white ' people. Are we white now, too? Only blacks being outraged again over some stupid stuff.

  • @julessparkles8556
    @julessparkles8556 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you! You didn’t put anybody down, you didn’t cause drama, and you didn’t make things worse. You explained why it wouldn’t work.

  • @sparklingsora
    @sparklingsora 11 месяцев назад

    thanks a lot for this video! ive always had trouble drawing side profiles and when i tried drawing along with you using the method you shared, my drawing came out really good!!

  • @duvan.deschain
    @duvan.deschain Год назад +11

    This was not only helpful but hilarious 🤣
    I was here to learn and learn I did, but boy was I also entertained. Kudos!!!

  • @purplesunset1720
    @purplesunset1720 Год назад +49

    This video perfectly explains why Sam is my favorite artist, as a black girl I didn’t even notice these little details in side profiles, but am glad to learn this so I can improve my art ❤❤

    • @kawaiplay1749
      @kawaiplay1749 11 месяцев назад +1

      me too lol We are not the only one that take a photo to verify

  • @spinachartichokeditz7720
    @spinachartichokeditz7720 11 месяцев назад +1

    As a pretty new character artist, I've felt really bogged down by all these "rules"... Thank you soooo much for this!! I'm hella inspired 🎉

  • @rahafahmadreem941
    @rahafahmadreem941 Год назад

    Each time I watch your videos, Sam, I am always able to learn something fresh and original. 💝💝

  • @lazer_sk8659
    @lazer_sk8659 Год назад +4

    Been watching you for a year and yet you never seem to stop amazing me 🙏🏽

  • @morganhunter6519
    @morganhunter6519 Год назад +12

    love how sam doesn't even need to draw just to inspire me !

  • @_ItsLuka00
    @_ItsLuka00 11 месяцев назад

    I had so much trouble when doing side profiles, I would learn one time and do the same face for everyone, this video reeeeally helped me, thanks Sam!!

  • @kidraman0_0
    @kidraman0_0 11 месяцев назад

    OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH SAM ❤️❤️
    I really had problem with side view and where to draw the lips and nose.this video and your explanation helped me lot

  • @taylorlurati6034
    @taylorlurati6034 Год назад +66

    Elite human being. Addresses the problem not the drama. We all need to be more like Sam

  • @Melljuu
    @Melljuu Год назад +12

    I love Sams videos they always give me motivation to draw!

  • @itwasntme471
    @itwasntme471 10 месяцев назад

    That was actually so helpful!! Looking forward to use these tips in my future drawings! Thank you very much ^^

  • @Thistlespawn
    @Thistlespawn 8 месяцев назад

    Dude!! This tip is insanely useful, thank you soooo much!❤❤❤I struggle so much with drawing profiles and this has been a life changer.

  • @rat8174
    @rat8174 Год назад +4

    im so glad you made a video about that

  • @VaporwavesJK
    @VaporwavesJK Год назад +33

    Thank you for always educating the art babies

  • @_stinepinne_
    @_stinepinne_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Have trouble drawing side views and this help me so much. thanks you so much!

  • @FlamingFox59
    @FlamingFox59 11 месяцев назад +1

    Been an artist for a very long time and I still learned from this!! Thanks

  • @benjinaraa
    @benjinaraa Год назад +7

    8:02 I legit giggled at this part because Sam sounds so teasing lol

  • @OneOfThemSprinkles
    @OneOfThemSprinkles Год назад +5

    Thanks for this Sam, it really helps!

  • @sarahbrownell25
    @sarahbrownell25 11 месяцев назад

    This was a great video for drawing heads! I always can’t figure placement for quick sketch so this helped! Thank you !

  • @kyoungfantasy4658
    @kyoungfantasy4658 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you I’ve been struggling to drawing poc characters, this made life makes so much more sense and easier.

  • @i_dont_exist4348
    @i_dont_exist4348 Год назад +19

    As a person who used to follow Kooleen's rules as a beginner artist and now has had problems drawing poc characters
    This video was honestly a lifesaver

  • @ch0colatec0ff33
    @ch0colatec0ff33 10 месяцев назад

    Its so nice to see this broken down. I struggle so hard drawing lips at all from a profile bc everyone looks like their doing ducklips or pursing their lips reallt hard

  • @alphaopanda875
    @alphaopanda875 Год назад

    glad you also took the time to learn these guidelines as well even beyond this current issue i know there has been issues in the past of the art community not really understanding or knowing how to draw African or black characters

  • @n1c0and99
    @n1c0and99 Год назад +42

    art don't need rules. tha's why it's called "art".
    luv u, Sam ✨

  • @dotpenji
    @dotpenji 10 месяцев назад +3

    I appreciate your insightful breakdown of these art "rules" and how you've explored alternatives. It's clear you're dedicated to helping artists improve. Can you share more instances where you've challenged conventional art advice and discovered innovative approaches?

    • @markanthonymanayan2136
      @markanthonymanayan2136 10 месяцев назад

      Breaking free from conventional 'art rules' can open up a world of creativity and self-expression. Great insights in this video!

  • @3.6-57
    @3.6-57 11 месяцев назад

    This is amazing. Actually good, helpful, and valuable content on this platform!

  • @Nebulaexis
    @Nebulaexis 11 месяцев назад

    This video makes me sm more confident in drawing characters of any race, thank you sam!

  • @chickenmcnugget7069
    @chickenmcnugget7069 Год назад +41

    We all really just need to use references. It makes a world of a difference, you can never have too many references. So many different ethnicities fall in between both methods. :D

  • @tumblexweed9366
    @tumblexweed9366 Год назад +14

    I am glad that he created this video, but also understand that some black people can fit under the line instead of the curve and that not all black characters need the curve to be defined as black.
    There are a lot of races that are blessed with big lips so keep that in mind too

  • @catspit__
    @catspit__ 11 месяцев назад

    man would i LOVE to have you as my art teacher in school. you’re amazing, sam! love you 🫶 /p

  • @carolinacarreira1426
    @carolinacarreira1426 11 месяцев назад

    We should be able to like a video multiple times. LOVED IT. Super useful. Thank you SAM!!!

  • @lafolleauxmostisma
    @lafolleauxmostisma Год назад +5

    I like how instead getting involved with the drama you gave pretty good advices!