I've done the combination. it works really well! Also you can then group the cards in different ways, like all animal cards together, all people cards together, all dragons together etc
Sorry, this has nothing to do with this video, but could you some day do a "Best tarot deck companion (guide)books" -video? I've heard you mention good guidebooks so many times, and it would be amazing to get your recommendations in one video! 😊 You could do one for oracles too, or add them in the same vid. I trust your opinions in this, so it would be just perrrfect 🌟
I combined my decks as well, and LOVE IT! 👏🏼 I did split them into two new decks, though: 1) More question/answer type of cards, when I need guidance with a specific query, and 2) more general guidance/every day energy inspiration. I love how it turned out! And I also pulled almost the identical cards out and questioned the message 😅 Did end up taking about 10 decks out between the two decks, that I just dont ressonate with.
I almost want this just for Smoke Ash & Embers Tarot I have coming...& of course with Dreams of Gaia which I just got a couple weeks ago & it has not left my side at home since...good reason to get the mini too. I need to Peggy Bag shop soon.
@@Lisa_Papez wow, that is a chunky combined deck! But a great idea. I have been eyeing up both decks so I will wish list them. Do you have the Dreams of Gaia too?
Hi Lisa, great video! I got Seeker with the very same intention of combining with Messenger; it just worked slightly different than previously thought. After working with both decks for a while I realize than most of the cards have a connection with tarot for me;, so I ended up with a very personalized tarot deck and a +30 cards oracle on top. I thought I let you know😉 Spoiler! please don't read if you want to remain 💯 unbiased😉 for instance Underserving Villains became 'my' 5 of pentacles An Unfair Judgement 'my' 5 of cups
I have Joined two opf Stacey Demarco Oracle Decks Divine Animals and The Elemental Oracles. I love it even though they have two different backs they are amzing. I asked the cardsa and got two animal cards and one elemental. Butterfly, elephant, and then Voice. i have taken this to mean Yes :)
I highly recommend joining her Patreon!! She posts images you can use as wallpaper for your phone/tablet. She was also showing works in progress, in particular the cards for Seeker. Currently she is going through the new dragon sigil oracle deck she is working on. (i mean Ravynne's patreon)
Oh really cool combined together - I like it! I don't have either but just put both in my Amazon cart. I think the megabucks would go great with the Ravyness Drakon Tarot, my dragon deck.
Really neat to see the process of combining the decks. I like the keywords/phrases but I just don't connect with the artwork at all. It's beautiful, but for some reason just doesn't trigger anything that seems to match the card messages for me. Seems like a good deck for working with clients. Wish I could connect with the art. I love the concept of taking cards out of Oracle decks that you don't resonate with. I've now done that with a few decks and they're so much more workable for me.
Probably the only thing I really don’t like about Blue Angel is the boxes and that the cards are just flying free 😂😂 like would it kill then to make the book and the cards fit the box like Hay House does 😬
I have the original version of the Messenger oracle and just got the Seekers Oracle. I’m tempted to get the new version on the Messenger as I like that it matches the new deck and I love that it’s borderless. It looks so great this way. The down side for me is the matte card stock. Everyone loves it but I’m not a fan.
Lisa I have the messenger oracle deck and love the idea of combining the seeeker oracle going to see if can order this edition from book depository as that is the main dealer i order from what is the date this deck was published so i get the matching backs
I feel undecided about this deck. I like the artwork and the dreams of Gaia is amazing and works well for me both intuitively and using the guidebook. I don’t think I’m crazy about the keywords on these… I’d rather they be more open ended. maybe I could ignore them. I’ll put it in the think bin…
It’s really cool that they are close enough that you can pick and chose to have a customized deck. There are some cards that I just couldn’t use, and picking and choosing would be nice. Like, the feminine and masculine cards, I could not use. I can’t stand the binary of it, and I do my best to avoid any cards like that, especially when it’s “divine”. The other two, without reading the book, I could think of as the kings and queens of tarot or maybe as the Empress and Emperor. I also agree with growing together working better. It also seems a lot healthier and less amatonormative. I could work with a card like that. Though the “Choose Love” card I don’t like. I only read for myself, so I could still use it since I’m a lovequeer aro. Though depending on how the book is written, I might have to ignore what’s written in the book. (I was thinking of which deck to get first, so watching this video was very helpful.)
I think it's interesting at how people see or get different messages. I like all the cards. I think that though the theme of some of them are similar they do have a specific message. Like the "Show that you care" is from my POV a different thing than connecting or connectedness. For me "Show that you care" is a 'doing' card. Something that you physically do rather than an internal feeling. It's like those "judgement, villian ..." cards. I can see different messages in them.. Anyway, this is so interesting. Thank you for doing this video. I don't have either of these decks and now I want both. LOL Would also like to hear what your definition of a "divinatory message" is.
Oh I could certainly make a case for ALL the cards and their different messages. LOL But I was trying to trim it down so I was letting myself nit pick so I could eliminate some. TOTALLY agree that the show you care is a 'doing' card which I think is why it didn't hit as good for me as connecting/connectedness. So... lemme see if I can kinda quantify what I mean by 'divinatory'... to me there are 'advice' type messages - like what a friend might say to you if you told them your problems. That's how a lot of the eliminated cards hit for me - such as show you care. It's like - oh... well be more demonstrative. KK, that's helpful. But a divinatory message like "connectedness" feels expansive. Like I could pull that card as a reader and interpret the advice to 'show you care' from that? Like there's a call to connect more, here's some ways you can do that - but it's open to interpretation - it's not too specific. It's open-ended... an *idea* rather than a clear instruction. When I'm reading cards, I tend to feel a lot more freedom with the open-ended style keywords/messages... I enjoy them all on some level... but I definitely gravitate toward expansive messages/keywords/themes so that my intuition has a little more room to play!
@@Lisa_Papez Thanks for that. I like both types. I think I see them all as open ended because it’s all in context to the query. Thanks for explaining that. Hope you’re well.
I'm disappointed that the backs are the same. I even would have liked the backs with a slight color variation. They are different decks. Honestly, I think it's a bit lazy. Gorgeous cards no doubt. I have Gaia too and love the artwork.
I think the blinded by bias is not the same as undeserving villains. There are many types of bias. Confirmation bias for example, can be towards a positive or negative result. The underlying stories and assumptions that lead to bias are not always undeservedly negative. Sometimes they are undeservedly positive.
It was on top of the spare fabric that I was laying out to check that there was enough for Peggy to make me a new bag but turned out I didn't need it lol.
OK, next month, the Seeker oracle. I thought I wanted it, now I know I do.
My cats advise more naps.
I've done the combination. it works really well! Also you can then group the cards in different ways, like all animal cards together, all people cards together, all dragons together etc
The size of blue angel boxes in relation to the cards inside will always remain a mystery to me 😂
SAME 🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, this has nothing to do with this video, but could you some day do a "Best tarot deck companion (guide)books" -video? I've heard you mention good guidebooks so many times, and it would be amazing to get your recommendations in one video! 😊 You could do one for oracles too, or add them in the same vid. I trust your opinions in this, so it would be just perrrfect 🌟
ABSOLUTELY! This is actually on my list to do!!!
I combined my decks as well, and LOVE IT! 👏🏼 I did split them into two new decks, though: 1) More question/answer type of cards, when I need guidance with a specific query, and 2) more general guidance/every day energy inspiration. I love how it turned out!
And I also pulled almost the identical cards out and questioned the message 😅 Did end up taking about 10 decks out between the two decks, that I just dont ressonate with.
By the way, you can tell the decks apart on the center of the title banner 😉 One has a diamond and the other a star like symbol
Love this! I would do the same 😊
I think the artist of your reading cloth is Josephine Wall. I love her art! 😍
It is! I just said the wrong name entirely (but was thinking of the right person) lollll
Eee! I have 3 oracle decks with that style of art. I think JW did the Whispers of the Ocean deck, too.
Anyway, I have both decks. Thanks.
I have both decks (love everything about these)and wanted to put together….thanks for doing the hard work for me….followed your cues!!! 👍🏻
I almost want this just for Smoke Ash & Embers Tarot I have coming...& of course with Dreams of Gaia which I just got a couple weeks ago & it has not left my side at home since...good reason to get the mini too. I need to Peggy Bag shop soon.
I think it is Josephine Wall who did the artwork on the cloth.. she's done a few decks with the (late) Angela Hartfield.
YES thank you LOL Johanna Basford is my fave colouring book artist and has a TOTALLY different style lol
@@Lisa_Papez wow, that is a chunky combined deck! But a great idea. I have been eyeing up both decks so I will wish list them. Do you have the Dreams of Gaia too?
@@darkfaetarot Yes!!! I have two copies. :) I have the full size deck (which I've got in storage - but I use the guidebook!) and the pocket deck.
@@Lisa_Papez aha... I am thinking of trying it later this year maybe.., thank you :)
Hi Lisa, great video!
I got Seeker with the very same intention of combining with Messenger; it just worked slightly different than previously thought. After working with both decks for a while I realize than most of the cards have a connection with tarot for me;, so I ended up with a very personalized tarot deck and a +30 cards oracle on top.
I thought I let you know😉
Spoiler! please don't read if you want to remain 💯 unbiased😉
for instance
Underserving Villains became 'my' 5 of pentacles
An Unfair Judgement 'my' 5 of cups
Love that you did that!!!
Just got both of these in and I'm excited to use them so pretty
😍😍😍 this is totally not usually my style but WOW! And the thought of being able to customize your own deck- my little organizing heart is SQUEALING
Heading off to purchase both decks being fully enabled by Lisa. . . again! Great process and so much fun to watch and see your rationale.
Hope you enjoy it! 💸💸💸
Ordered both. I really love dreams of Gaia and these will go perfectly
I love these decks so much. I agree that they needed to be combined. Thanks for sharing ❤️ and that reading cloth is AMAZING 🤩
I have Joined two opf Stacey Demarco Oracle Decks Divine Animals and The Elemental Oracles. I love it even though they have two different backs they are amzing. I asked the cardsa and got two animal cards and one elemental. Butterfly, elephant, and then Voice. i have taken this to mean Yes :)
😳😍This deeeecck 😩 it has the sweetest energy! I’m kicking myself for re-homing my Dreams of Gaia deck😒
You could always (if you decide you're still missing it later on?) pick up the pocket Dreams of Gaia :)
off topic but i LOVE your nail polish! 🤓
Haha thank youuuu!!!
Pretty sure it's Josephine Wall. Johanna Badsford does the colouring books. This looks like Josephine Wall.
OMG yah lol not sure how I got those twisted up LOL
I highly recommend joining her Patreon!! She posts images you can use as wallpaper for your phone/tablet. She was also showing works in progress, in particular the cards for Seeker. Currently she is going through the new dragon sigil oracle deck she is working on. (i mean Ravynne's patreon)
Oh really cool combined together - I like it! I don't have either but just put both in my Amazon cart. I think the megabucks would go great with the Ravyness Drakon Tarot, my dragon deck.
Typo..megadeck
Ahhh, I was waiting to see you do this. Thanks for the share
BUYING IT 😃
Ok this deck will be perfect for Smoke ash and embers! Going to purchase lol
Loveeeeeeee that reading cloth 💜💜💜💜 i might need to buy one. I can see that deck calling me out already 🤣🤣🤣
Really neat to see the process of combining the decks. I like the keywords/phrases but I just don't connect with the artwork at all. It's beautiful, but for some reason just doesn't trigger anything that seems to match the card messages for me. Seems like a good deck for working with clients. Wish I could connect with the art. I love the concept of taking cards out of Oracle decks that you don't resonate with. I've now done that with a few decks and they're so much more workable for me.
Probably the only thing I really don’t like about Blue Angel is the boxes and that the cards are just flying free 😂😂 like would it kill then to make the book and the cards fit the box like Hay House does 😬
I mean... it's a choice.... lol
I have the original version of the Messenger oracle and just got the Seekers Oracle. I’m tempted to get the new version on the Messenger as I like that it matches the new deck and I love that it’s borderless. It looks so great this way. The down side for me is the matte card stock. Everyone loves it but I’m not a fan.
Lisa I have the messenger oracle deck and love the idea of combining the seeeker oracle going to see if can order this edition from book depository as that is the main dealer i order from what is the date this deck was published so i get the matching backs
Oh wow, I'm getting both of these!!! Love that they go together so well!
I feel undecided about this deck. I like the artwork and the dreams of Gaia is amazing and works well for me both intuitively and using the guidebook. I don’t think I’m crazy about the keywords on these… I’d rather they be more open ended. maybe I could ignore them. I’ll put it in the think bin…
It’s really cool that they are close enough that you can pick and chose to have a customized deck. There are some cards that I just couldn’t use, and picking and choosing would be nice.
Like, the feminine and masculine cards, I could not use. I can’t stand the binary of it, and I do my best to avoid any cards like that, especially when it’s “divine”. The other two, without reading the book, I could think of as the kings and queens of tarot or maybe as the Empress and Emperor.
I also agree with growing together working better. It also seems a lot healthier and less amatonormative. I could work with a card like that.
Though the “Choose Love” card I don’t like. I only read for myself, so I could still use it since I’m a lovequeer aro. Though depending on how the book is written, I might have to ignore what’s written in the book.
(I was thinking of which deck to get first, so watching this video was very helpful.)
Great idea to customize definitely on my todo list now!
Now I need the seekers oracle
I think the reading cloth is by Josephine Wall.
I think it's interesting at how people see or get different messages. I like all the cards. I think that though the theme of some of them are similar they do have a specific message. Like the "Show that you care" is from my POV a different thing than connecting or connectedness. For me "Show that you care" is a 'doing' card. Something that you physically do rather than an internal feeling. It's like those "judgement, villian ..." cards. I can see different messages in them.. Anyway, this is so interesting. Thank you for doing this video. I don't have either of these decks and now I want both. LOL Would also like to hear what your definition of a "divinatory message" is.
Oh I could certainly make a case for ALL the cards and their different messages. LOL But I was trying to trim it down so I was letting myself nit pick so I could eliminate some. TOTALLY agree that the show you care is a 'doing' card which I think is why it didn't hit as good for me as connecting/connectedness. So... lemme see if I can kinda quantify what I mean by 'divinatory'... to me there are 'advice' type messages - like what a friend might say to you if you told them your problems. That's how a lot of the eliminated cards hit for me - such as show you care. It's like - oh... well be more demonstrative. KK, that's helpful. But a divinatory message like "connectedness" feels expansive. Like I could pull that card as a reader and interpret the advice to 'show you care' from that? Like there's a call to connect more, here's some ways you can do that - but it's open to interpretation - it's not too specific. It's open-ended... an *idea* rather than a clear instruction. When I'm reading cards, I tend to feel a lot more freedom with the open-ended style keywords/messages... I enjoy them all on some level... but I definitely gravitate toward expansive messages/keywords/themes so that my intuition has a little more room to play!
@@Lisa_Papez Thanks for that. I like both types. I think I see them all as open ended because it’s all in context to the query. Thanks for explaining that. Hope you’re well.
I want both of these decks now.
I'm disappointed that the backs are the same. I even would have liked the backs with a slight color variation. They are different decks. Honestly, I think it's a bit lazy. Gorgeous cards no doubt. I have Gaia too and love the artwork.
I don't quite understand your separation of "advice" vs "divinatory message"
I would be interested to know if out of the ones you pulled out, how many are from the Seeker and how many form the messenger?
I think the majority came from Messenger!
Okay now I need to buy them and do the same xD
I think the blinded by bias is not the same as undeserving villains. There are many types of bias. Confirmation bias for example, can be towards a positive or negative result. The underlying stories and assumptions that lead to bias are not always undeservedly negative. Sometimes they are undeservedly positive.
Yes love this. I kept both in my deck!
undeserving villains doesn't seem to me to be an unfair judgement. It's a description of a really bad person.
is that a reading cloth on top of another reading cloth? lol
It was on top of the spare fabric that I was laying out to check that there was enough for Peggy to make me a new bag but turned out I didn't need it lol.
@@Lisa_Papez lol ahhh