He is a comedian, but this is an informative show in a funny way, it’s not satire. I’m a teacher in Norway, and I actually use it in school for the students to learn the system. It’s a great show 👍
I thought the same thing, it a similar story in Sweden and I think we could do with a reminder like this. We are often ridiculed for "jante-lagen", the law of jante. It is no law but is used to describe the mentality of disliking bragging, not celebrating success excessively and so on. I think we have that attitude because it has been one part of making this work here. It is hard to accept this kind of system if the gap between the poor and the rich is perceived as to large.
All the Nordic countries have a similar system, tripartite cooperation between organizations representing employers and employees and the state, of course adapted for the various countries. The show was made with 16 episodes and was broadcast in 2020. Harald Eia is brilliant. He is a trained sociologist. In 2010, he led another series called "Hjernevask/Brainwashing", in which he challenged Norwegian research environments. The review theme in the series was whether it was heredity or environment that had the greatest influence on how people turned out as adults. The series addressed themes such as equality, violence, casual sex, sexual orientation, race, and the parental effect. The series was controversial and the subject of fierce debate in various professional circles. It was very well received by both the people and the media. It was refreshing that someone dared to talk about things that one would rather not talk about in public.
Fellow Norwegian here! Harald is indeed one of the most controversial comedians we ever had, but also a very well educated man, and a very clever one! He can make the most mundane question a big deal, and talk you into contradicting your own beliefs, and you won´t even reckognize it. I have NO idea how you turned this into a sexual thing - inmho, that´s all on you. Good luck with that.
All grownups (30+ years) who have worked a while knows about this, and its a brilliant system. Every country in the world should adapt this immediately. Is my opinion atleast.
I love Harald Eia. He is so good at explaining stuff while making it funny and interesting. I binged the series this episode is a part of, and I also love the show «Brille» that he hosted many seasons of, where they teach interesting facts using humor. I really like your vids as well, Mert Nor. You have a very likeable persona and I adore your accent. Please let them vids coming 😁
As a Norwegian I think our free education system and we getting help from the state if we get sick etc are a key to success. We have a possibility as individuals to develop and grow. In the long run, Norway is driven by people who are happy and healthy and have knowledge 😊
School is free in Norway, so is university. The student loan is for your living expenses. Many live at home if higher education is available close to home
No it was not really a famine in Norway, the last famine Norway had was during the Napoleon war around 1810-13 as trade was blocked to Norway by british navy ships. The reason so many emigrated from Norway was due to the fact that the economy became better, education was better and because of that better medicine etc. So more people could grow up, the population increased a lot and it was not enough farm land for everyone and not even enough jobs. So when USA had actually FREE farm land in the mid west the decision was made to move to USA, it was NOT a "famine", no idea who told you that? Maybe you mix it with Sweden, as Sweden had a famine that lasted from 1867-69, two years, reason was cold weather and bad crops, and yes it increased the emigration from Sweden to USA. Norwegians did not migrate due to poverty. Norwegian emigration, which lasted until World War I, was Europe's second largest in terms of the proportion of the population. Does this mean that people were particularly poverty-stricken in Norway? There is no doubt that the Norwegian countryside was relatively overpopulated and this played an important role. Economic crises, such as the one from the late 1870s, also influenced the situation. Nevertheless, it is important to emphasise that the level of need was not any worse in Norway than in other countries. Norway had strong economic growth and a relatively high standard of living.
I came to Norway as a 21-year-old from Greenland (Denmark). I loved it! It was easy to get an education, relatively speaking, and no problem to get a job. Nowadays it is a bit more decadent and difficult to talk to people, as I see it. I prefer to live in East Africa! Very nice people there too! But I am going back to Norway regularly because of my kids there. Anyway, the whole world has wonderful countries! If you just be nice and friendly and work hard, all will be ok! "Life is hard and then we die, as we said in the old days!" And the world will be a good place for you!
13:35 - I am Norwegian, and also a union representative. I do agree to some extent, but this is an incredibly complex matter in the end! You can compare this to a chicken and egg complex, and the name of the game is trading. I could say it´s negotiations, but we´re even now, and we´ve been for quite some time in Europe. That´s a generalisation of course! But during my work in the union for the last 18 years, I´ve learned that we see eye to eye on 99% of the cases in Europe.
We also have minimum wage laws for trades that have increased risk of social dumping. It makes less social differences, and benefits the society overall.
The thing about increased salary in Norway is a strategic step by the LO. Yes, some companies may outsource the jobs or lay down there businesses, but if you have a business that cant afford your workers to get a pay raise you probably have business model thats not competitive. Its sad because some of them are old businesses that have been in our country for a long time, but on the other side you have the majority of them that do really good. And when we get a increase in pay it benefits 75-80% of the workforce in Norway. The 10-12% that dont get a increase is probably lawyers and so on and they have pr.hour pay that is way higher than the pr.hour compaired to the rest of the Norwegian people. But for most of the Norwegians this is a very good arrangement that keeps the balance between each work place equal, so we get payed more or less the same if your a painter or a hairdresser.
Yes, I knew. If your business can’t afford the Norwegians standard, your business is out. That’s why we don’t have Amazon in Norway. Well, they are banned though, but it’s because of their working conditions.
Nope. That´s just because Amazon doesn´t like to pay their employees. They´re more than welcome to work in Norway. Just know that your employees are entitled to sick leave. I have no idea how you accept this in the US, that you have to show up for work, even if you´re dying? How can you leave a decision like this in the hands of a company official with 2 weeks of training?
Amazon is not banned in Norway... Where did you find this info? Temu is in Norway, and I am sure that is 100% worst then Amazon. If Amazon came to Norway, the small business market in Norway would crash. You wouldn't have to go to several shops to find a certain screw.
@@FallenHoot he probaly thinks of walmart where the oil fund is not allowed to invest in it because of human rights. But Amazon would never work in Norway, they would lose alot of money. Their are so many factors that would make Amazon to fail. Like walmart did in Germany where they started to do the american way
@@oh515No, you’re right in regards to Amazon. We can order things from British or US or other Amazon-sites, but there isn’t an "amazon.no" so we have to have to pay import taxes on everything, with some excemptions. Amazon also doesn’t have any distribution centres in Norway. Not that they couldn’t have a Norwegian Amazon if they wanted - companies like Lego and CDON have Norwegian sites, but ship their goods from outside of Norway.
My Grandpa would get coupon's here and there to save a few Nok here and there. But if he asked for 500 nok he would throw you 1000 nok. In his mind the 5-6 nok he saved using coupons was worth more then the 500-1000 nok. And he admitted it was dumb, but he could just never adjust his mind to the fact that 5 nok wasn't a lot of money xD
well, we used to have people sitting in toll booths and so on aswell, but as he sais, it's to expencive, so we have to automate everything so that the higher ups can earn twice as much money as before. at the moment a production worker can not have a house and survive on his own income any more. our wages look impressive from the outside, but the insane cost of living will limit us to much so we live hand to mouth aswell. we tend to drive to sweden to buy cheaper food despite the swedish kroner being stronger than ours, it's still cheaper over there than here.
This used to be true, that the unions and company owners would work together to lower the pay-rises. It's still the case to some extent, and a great deal of reforms are built around the situation being like it is explained here. But what he doesn't go into is that it's not difficult accept a percentage-wise small raise when your salary already is big. Your purchase-power is still going to be high. And that having a lower-rung job wasn't just limited to factory workers or menial workers, but also teachers, nurses and any kind of public sector job. So we're talking about basically an acceptance for that the most necessary types of jobs should simply not be devalued against the highest paying jobs. There are a number of good reasons why this shouldn't be done that are never discussed in any labour-union meeting. As we get nearer the 80s, this situation changes - but not very quickly. So although people could afford any amount of luxuries in the 80s that they couldn't before, build a house on one salary in a family of four, that kind of thing, it's not like people who were paid a lot of money somehow lowered their pay in solidarity with the teachers. That never happened. So the mechanism described here is something that took place in the 60s at the latest. While what is going on now and since the 80s is simply that people argue that you are going to have to be able to live well on a pay-check for a full-time job. Which leads us into the next program, I'm assuming: health-care, public school, student loans, various public services being funded by tax-money to make sure everyone has access to those services. What this means is that with a progressive tax-system, your semi-average pay is going to allow you a higher standard of living. And that /if/ we weren't actually paying as much taxes as we are --- well, then we'd be free to spend quite a lot of money on optionals. But the total cost of being sick would be, as it is in many places, completely deblitating. The higher cost of living in general also plays a role here. So that this union would not be arguing that they should lower the pay of the higher paying jobs and raise the factory-workers' pay at all - they'd be arguing (as the labour party has been, until very recently) that it is good for the economy that everyone has a decent pay that they can purchase things for. And that it's incredibly bad for the economy, specially in a small country, if just a few people can pay for school, health, and so on. This makes intuitive sense, obviously. And still doesn't involve the political reasons that have been forgotten after.. the 1960-70s, about how allowing a very large amount of capital in the hands of very few people is a tremendously bad thing for a country. Since it will make sure that political power also is collected on similarly few hands. Every public program -- that are all systematically undermined by the conservative majority, and now also the labour-party - where they used to cooperate to keep them in place -- are designed to prevent that. And if you really look into it, what you'll find is that although engineers on average are paid less than an average engineer in the US - what you will notice is that specialists in certain fields are paid either more, or are left with significantly more when you consider the cost of health-insurance, health-care, pensions, and various public services added on top. In other words: not only is it easy to convince people that a 3% raise that makes out the entire pay of a lower-rung worker is ok - it's also easy to convince specialists that getting their entire pay, after taxes, out for their own use as long as you live in Norway, even if you're sick and even if you need really expensive medication, and even if you end up not working at all -- is a good deal. As time moves on now, we are seeing another chapter to this, and it's that the "median" pay is rising a great deal. While people who are in the lower rung are basically part-time workers, or people who don't get a good contract. They're working in temp-jobs permanently, they have a shift every now and again. And receive minimal amounts of pay from the commune as compensation, or just live on savings for a while. And they don't lower the "median" pay, just because they don't end up making a family, they don't have a "household", and they don't have real jobs on a contract. They're just filling in the gaps in the labour-force when the companies are saving pennies on shortening shifts below 4,5 hours, or dropping the full-time positions in favour of having people come in from the commune on "salary-compensation". And this group just doesn't exist in those statistics, even if they are highly educated, or have job-experience of various kinds. I know a teacher who worked like this for 20 years. I used to work in a bank like this for 15 years, before I upgraded my pay by working in a convenience store. Because you don't get a full-time contract, and so your "high" hourly rate is not much to brag about. While the "low" rate of the super-specialist getting 50 euro an hour is not a problem - because you're not hired on a project. They're hired to a permanent position, and you can switch jobs at will. And do so, having severance pay and then unemployment benefits with massive amounts of pay in comparison to the lower rung people, without any problem whatsoever. And if you get sick - what's the problem? You are not going to go bankrupt unless you're an absolute wastrel. So although this stuff sounds nice on paper - and it certainly was the case that solidarity setups in pay-rises did occur (in extremely bad times in the olden days) - this is not how Norway works. And it certainly wasn't how Norway worked when this program was made. It's on the right track, of course. And it is explanations that make sense, and is based on real models - never mind based on entirely real theories about how things should work by economists and economical advisers to various governments in the civil service. But to just pretend like there hasn't been, or that there isn't now, an economical under-class in Norway is just completely idiotic. As the guy says: yes, a worker on the absolutely lowest pay in Spain is going to be paid a lot less than in Norway. And that's like saying that we've removed the absolutely worst poverty in the world, while also raising the cost of living to a high rate. Like in Britain: there is a market for food and goods sold to a lower-earning part of the work-force, and that makes things kind of work - that wouldn't have worked in Norway. In the same way: you only get to spend a ton of money from your salary on vacation if the krone is strong. Like it is now, when the currency is weak, you're basically not going to get very far with your extra money either in Norway or otherwise. So this decent enough pay is going to be ok, for sure. After all, we don't have abject poverty. But you're not going to be comparatively richer than a cashier in Spain or in the US. Specially if you count people who don't work at Walmart and Costco - oh, all of a sudden it turns out that you're not actually that far above the level of "gigantic conglomerate magnate person hates workers and just lowers their pay" rate. We have benefits, though - although they are rapidly undermined, as mentioned. But the actual level of living is not absurdly much higher. But you can do that anyway, because you won't die from being paid an average job, right..? That's the hidden part of why this works. You can actually work less and get less rich - and you still end up being able to afford health-care and somewhat decent standard of living. And that's important. But this is not about the average pay being so remarkably much higher, or about how company-owners in Norway end up accepting that they should pay everyone a decent wage. That's just utter and total bullshit. The amount of battles that have been going on just in the last decade over locking down /illegal/ work contracts in the construction business, for example, is comical. But it's like this, because everyone knows that if you actually pay what the job is worth - then a new home will cost 6 million kroner rather than 3. It's a huge problem, that just inflates the house-market, and prohibits the kind of construction boom that we have had for a very long time. And it's exactly the same going on in the temp-bureau business. It's a cooperation between companies and the temp-bureaus to force people to end up half-way on state benefits and half-way on a salary. And it's not going to last, simple as that. Because first the benefits are lowered. And then the salaries are dropped on the lower-rung jobs again. And then you'll end up with poverty in Norway as well. Because we do not have low-cost goods that would be targeted at a large enough group of lower-earning people. Nor do we have public services that then would still be affordable on the lowest possible pay. All of that system is just going out the window.
Yea. great show. its a couple of episodes, worth watching ;) If i quit or lost my job right now. This happens : 1: Nav ( goverment ) Look at what i earn the last 3 years. 2: Take the year i made the moste $. 3: Give me 60 % of that. Untill i get a new job. This repets every year. So after 3 years. il get less , and so on..... So i wanna get back to work as fast as posible. But i can live like a normal human while i look for a new job ( like we live in Norway). Cant do anything fun tho, like football in england or winter travels to spain. XD
Unions in Norway are fairly strong. Most workers are in some sort of union and that union is most likely a sub-union of one of the big unions. Unions also have international ties. British unions do have a bit of the same (Norwegian unions were modeled off of British unions back in the day), but I suppose they don't have the same sort of top level organization like LO and YS. And maybe not as many people are organized these days? I think it depends a bit on what you do? Like, a coal miner would be much more likely to be organized than a plumber today. A plumber would also much more frequently be a sole trader. This makes the plumber more vulnerable to shifts in the economy. Anyway, everyone should unionize. Don't be a scab! ✊🏻
I like to pack my own bags, I also don't buy bags, I have tote bags, and a backpack. I pack it how I want it to be. So I don't see the need for that job.
I'm a Norwegian game design student, and after watching the video I've realized what may be a reason why so many game companies go bankrupt in Norway. It's because the companies can't afford to pay their workers. Games take a long time to make, and if you are just starting out it means your company won't generate any income until you actually release a game. Obviously there are a lot of factors at play here, but I am very curious to find out why the Swedish games industry is absolutely booming, while the Norwegian games industry is suffering.
Buying power. It does not matter if a teacher in Argentina earn half of what they do in UK, if the Argentinian can buy double of goods for the money than the UK teacher. (not real example) Life is a challenge in any western country if you are living hand to mouth. Family, community and heritage can help you on the way to a great life. Grad students as he mentioned at the end, they live off mommy and daddy that may live in very different income families and sometimes take loans to not let their offspring felt left out , even if they cannot afford it.
This show is more than 20 years old. This used to be the Norwegian system. During the 1990-ties our politicans very slowly and almost secretly has change much of this, as they have been taking us into a neo liberalistic system as well, and been the ones to create jobs, often for themselves with really, really high wages. The wage gap has been going up since the 1980-ties, and we are not really egalitarian anymore, even though the majority seems to think so because the ones with very little are still in the minority, and made up of people who are not able to work of immigrants, especially those who have not been integrated into work, some eternally refugees withouth papers. The prosperety and wealth from such an egalitarian society as shown in this video seems to be lost on many, but the last years more and more people seem to realise what is going on. But because part of our culture also has been trust in politicans and our leaders this has taken a very, very long time.
Thik he fails to mention the way that taxes are spent i Norway though. That is sad as it is a equaly importand part of the "mixed economy" that Sweden too was so good at back in the days. UK really used to be more like the Scandinavian nations before Margaret Thatcher had the NPM (New Public Management) refroms that she and Ronald Reagan loved so much. UK was heading for the same political and financial directions as the Nordic nations took. But she managed to derail UK totaly.
Bruttonasjonalprodukt (BNP)=GDP. Western countries have been on an upward path since the 30's (at least), but the thing with that graph, is that there should have been a huge bump in the 70's because of sudden influx of oil money. But the 800% rise total should not be too different from other countries, especially from 1945 going forward. I would suspect Germany and Britain and USA having very similar graphs. Britain's graph would probably have more the same shape as Norway's for the last 50 years as compared to Sweden and Denmark, and that's because of the oil, but the end result ought to be quite similar. Until Brexit. Brexit and years and years of Tory rule has ravaged your economy and working class. And (the "new" "tankie free") Labour has announced that it'll get worse instead of just hiking the shit out of taxes for the rich. We'll see in October, is it? Sorry for the rant. 😁
Unfortunately Norway joined EU's ACER, and now manufactures have to pay 3 times as high energy prices as they did earlier. I fear this will make us unable to compete at the same level with the same high wages for unskilled labor. Now we have the same energy costs as our Europeen competitors.
Norway should have been a part of Great Britain since the 13th century.They had the oppurtunety,but declined😖Perhaps it could still happen instead of being a part of Eu ? Maybe we can still hope ?
"hadebra" or just "hade" is something you say when you leave someone, so I guess Goodbye is ok, but it actually means "have a good time", so the translation is a bit off.
On vanity plates in Norway: You'll have to pay about £800 to own the rights to your plates for 10 years, and you basically register an alias for one of your vehicles. Runkeskilt. Wanking plates. If you can afford to waste that much money on what amounts to a very, very short bumper sticker, and you choose to do it, you really are a wanker.
I have an enormous respect for Harald Eia, but he is slightly wrong about something here. Norway as a country, was fairly rich from the beginning. But we were highly capitalist, so that only the wealthy had a right to vote, for instance. That meant that while Norway was rich, most people were poor and I would ask; what matters? He does make my point, but he doesn't make it as clearly as I would've wanted - perhaps in order to speak to the other side of politics. It was egalitarianism and redistribution of wealth that enables people to succeed that was our first success. Free education, including university means that we make maximum use of our pool of talent. We give you money to finance your life while you're studying for free, but if you don't pass, then it's a student loan. If you do pass, it's a scholarship. We enable and we add pressure. «Do your duty and claim your rights», we say.
The host, Harad Eia, is a comedian but the worst of it's kind. When I see Eia trying to be funny, I switch tv channel. Sometimes I get to see wether Eia can make me laugh but that never fails. He can't make me laugh
It’s a lie, and its good lie, we are only rich outside of Norway, but lately value of NOK has fallen, perhaps it has gone too far (too many businesses failing), and perhaps, the types of enterprises that are successful under cut, what made Norway great to begin with.
Harald Eia is great, but I'm not at all buying that the unions are the difference and not the oil. Remember seeing this on TV. The unions are great and very comparable to the swedish system (and probably many other european countries), but the oil is what makes Norways economy larger per capita. More money in equals more money out. The unions existed for ~80 years before Norway found oil, and I don't think the wages were high back then. In fact, people in Norway often talk about how poor Norway used to be back in early 20th century.
Look at sweeden like you said. They do not have oil and have a very similar economy to Norway. Yes oil certainly helped push us a bit higher than we otherwise would have. But look at out GDP per capita before the oil and you will see it was still on the top in Europe. You have google. Its a simple search^^ have a good day
@@adm7998 Can't find a reliable source far enough back in time, but at the moment the GDP per capita is about 50 % higher in Norway, and i still believe it is mostly due to oil and gass and not the unions. And also that it is quite a significant push. But I can agree to some extent that Sweden has its iron ore historically and still boosting the swedish industry and economy in similar ways as the norwegian oil, only a lot smaller. But just look at the state budget, which always is about how much is gonna be taken from the oil fund. To norwegians it's normal. To basically every other country on the planet it's cheating. Very clever indeed and other countries should learn from it. However, it still means that every mistake can be counteracted with the oil fund. Every wish can be fulfilled. We'll see who's right when the demand for oil and gas might go down:) I even believe Nicolai Tangen touched the subject in his recent Bloomberg interview.
Natural resources like fish, wood and later oil were indeed a big part of it, but I still think the unions are the biggest factor. You can find many countries around the world that have oil and are poor, but I doubt there are any countries with our system that are poor.
@@wainerkorven Like i said. Oil certainly helps our economy, no doubt about that. But it is not the reason for our success:) Fun fact: Oil only accounts for 1/3 of the funds profit. Meaning it will keep growing even if all Oil stopped flowing. The fund is self sufficient at this point. As for the "politicians can use the fund to correct mistakes". While yes this is true to a certain extent, the politicians can never actually touch the holding in the fund. (Wich is why it keeps growing) They can only touch a maximum of 3% of the DIVIDENTS/INTERRESTS. My ending point is simply that the nordic countries have very similar economies, and all of us have unions that work with the employer AND the employee. If we had never found Oil, we would still be among the top gdp per capita countries in Europe. And that is also why we did not feel the need to actually use the income from Oil when it eventually started flowing in:)
@@adm7998The reason why the fund is not dependent on oil is most likely because it is in their guidelines to actively focus on green investments to help the global transition away from fossil fuels. Some call it ironic, but I would rather say it's very responsible. However, I agree with you that it is very likely that Norway would be in the top tier even without oil. To make my point short and simple though, i believe the oil is the reason why Norway is ahead of their nordic neighbours which has the same union philosophy or even stronger (just look at the Tesla strike in Sweden that is not present in Norway). The swedish industry is massive and always has been, but the GDP per capita is still only 2/3 of Norway. With unions practically the same, and with a larger industry in Sweden if you exclude oil in Norway, in my head that means that the oil is very likely what causes the extra ~40-50 % gdp per capita compared to Sweden and Denmark. But still in the top tier, yes very likely!
Firstly, this is not exactly right and it is not at all funny. One has to take into consideration that the basic goods people need, to survive are all very costly. Much more costly than any country we compare with. Groceries, fruit, vegetables and I can go on, are much cheaper in the countries mentioned. Cost of living and climate temperatures play a major role as well as transportation in a country such as Norway, with its scattered population. Sorry mate, this is all rubbish.
Well I thing you live in Norway but when you say that the program is all rubish I`m not sure you have been to Norway at all. THe big line in the program is correct, small differences compared to other countries. You will find some points in this that is not correct but its details. High salary and high cost and this was in 2020. Today the cost for many is a lot higher because they tought it was free money from the bank when they took a loan to buy a house, tesla, big boat og a cottage. Interest rate they had maybe heard abaut but it was 2% og less so it didnt matter.
@@mmarijus no, On the contrary, I am fortunate the way I live. I speak about the people in general in one of the richest countries in the world, who are heavily taxed and are robbed of their previous cheap electricity which is the property of the people. And if one cannot understand that once you compare salaries in different countries, one has to also compare what the cost of living is in each country. The richest of Norway is sadly not distributed evenly and the gap between those who struggle and the ones more fortunate is growing rapidly. That is my concern. If you are not able to see that as a foreigner, please study the society of Norway a bit deeper. And my last name/surname is: Dahl-Larsen with all due respect.
D- L, are you now compairing Norway with other countries? What country do you compile with? I guess you realize there are some returns for the tax you pay? You want to compair a pregnent Norwegian with an Italian? You want to talk about NAVere? Medicines? Electricity refund? You have to bring out the good stuff to give this more balance. If not you will sound like a complainer in perfect MAGA style. Are you Frp?
The cooperation between workers unions and employers unions is regarded as the most important successfactor, it’s called ‘trepartssamarbeidet’. One consequence less talked about, in stark contrast to i.e. the US, is the fact that if a company cannot afford to pay it’s workers a decent wage, it doesn’t really have a right to exist. It is generally accepted that such companies goes bankrupt. This would never fly in the US.
We also have minimum wage laws for trades that have increased risk of social dumping. It makes less social differences, and benefits the society overall.
He is a comedian, but this is an informative show in a funny way, it’s not satire. I’m a teacher in Norway, and I actually use it in school for the students to learn the system. It’s a great show 👍
We used to watch this in class! (I'm Norwegian)
Yeah we watched this show it's amazing:] I'm also Norwegian.
The most accurate way to refer to it would be edu-tainment. Educational entertainment.
I thought the same thing, it a similar story in Sweden and I think we could do with a reminder like this. We are often ridiculed for "jante-lagen", the law of jante. It is no law but is used to describe the mentality of disliking bragging, not celebrating success excessively and so on. I think we have that attitude because it has been one part of making this work here. It is hard to accept this kind of system if the gap between the poor and the rich is perceived as to large.
Harald Eia has a masters degree in sociology, but also studied philosophy, mathematics, data
All the Nordic countries have a similar system, tripartite cooperation between organizations representing employers and employees and the state, of course adapted for the various countries.
The show was made with 16 episodes and was broadcast in 2020.
Harald Eia is brilliant. He is a trained sociologist. In 2010, he led another series called "Hjernevask/Brainwashing", in which he challenged Norwegian research environments. The review theme in the series was whether it was heredity or environment that had the greatest influence on how people turned out as adults. The series addressed themes such as equality, violence, casual sex, sexual orientation, race, and the parental effect. The series was controversial and the subject of fierce debate in various professional circles. It was very well received by both the people and the media. It was refreshing that someone dared to talk about things that one would rather not talk about in public.
Fellow Norwegian here! Harald is indeed one of the most controversial comedians we ever had, but also a very well educated man, and a very clever one! He can make the most mundane question a big deal, and talk you into contradicting your own beliefs, and you won´t even reckognize it.
I have NO idea how you turned this into a sexual thing - inmho, that´s all on you. Good luck with that.
@@olenilsen4660 My comment was about his other series, Hjernevask.
All grownups (30+ years) who have worked a while knows about this, and its a brilliant system. Every country in the world should adapt this immediately. Is my opinion atleast.
I love Harald Eia. He is so good at explaining stuff while making it funny and interesting.
I binged the series this episode is a part of, and I also love the show «Brille» that he hosted many seasons of, where they teach interesting facts using humor.
I really like your vids as well, Mert Nor. You have a very likeable persona and I adore your accent. Please let them vids coming 😁
I remember the episode where he pissed his pants in the studio to show why a blue pants became more blue when wet.
«Sånn er Norge» is a great show! Still available online, but not shown on tv any longer.
As a Norwegian I think our free education system and we getting help from the state if we get sick etc are a key to success. We have a possibility as individuals to develop and grow. In the long run, Norway is driven by people who are happy and healthy and have knowledge 😊
Lady selling the shirts for 20kr is illustrated with a headshot of Erna Solberg, former prime minister for the conservatives! Fitting! 😄
School is free in Norway, so is university. The student loan is for your living expenses. Many live at home if higher education is available close to home
Harald Eia is very intelligent, he stidied sociology.
I love that show! ❤ Dont know that Id call it comedy.
More like very well explanations that even Norwegians benefit from hearing! 😊
From 1860-1880 a third of all Norwegians emigrated to the US (due to famine in Norway)
No it was not really a famine in Norway, the last famine Norway had was during the Napoleon war around 1810-13 as trade was blocked to Norway by british navy ships. The reason so many emigrated from Norway was due to the fact that the economy became better, education was better and because of that better medicine etc. So more people could grow up, the population increased a lot and it was not enough farm land for everyone and not even enough jobs. So when USA had actually FREE farm land in the mid west the decision was made to move to USA, it was NOT a "famine", no idea who told you that? Maybe you mix it with Sweden, as Sweden had a famine that lasted from 1867-69, two years, reason was cold weather and bad crops, and yes it increased the emigration from Sweden to USA. Norwegians did not migrate due to poverty.
Norwegian emigration, which lasted until World War I, was Europe's second largest in terms of the proportion of the population. Does this mean that people were particularly poverty-stricken in Norway? There is no doubt that the Norwegian countryside was relatively overpopulated and this played an important role. Economic crises, such as the one from the late 1870s, also influenced the situation. Nevertheless, it is important to emphasise that the level of need was not any worse in Norway than in other countries. Norway had strong economic growth and a relatively high standard of living.
Love your videos, Mert😊
I came to Norway as a 21-year-old from Greenland (Denmark). I loved it! It was easy to get an education, relatively speaking, and no problem to get a job. Nowadays it is a bit more decadent and difficult to talk to people, as I see it. I prefer to live in East Africa! Very nice people there too! But I am going back to Norway regularly because of my kids there. Anyway, the whole world has wonderful countries! If you just be nice and friendly and work hard, all will be ok! "Life is hard and then we die, as we said in the old days!" And the world will be a good place for you!
I wouldn't call this satire, just an explanation of how it works in the Nordics
He is also a sociologist
13:35 - I am Norwegian, and also a union representative. I do agree to some extent, but this is an incredibly complex matter in the end! You can compare this to a chicken and egg complex, and the name of the game is trading. I could say it´s negotiations, but we´re even now, and we´ve been for quite some time in Europe. That´s a generalisation of course! But during my work in the union for the last 18 years, I´ve learned that we see eye to eye on 99% of the cases in Europe.
We also have minimum wage laws for trades that have increased risk of social dumping. It makes less social differences, and benefits the society overall.
The thing about increased salary in Norway is a strategic step by the LO. Yes, some companies may outsource the jobs or lay down there businesses, but if you have a business that cant afford your workers to get a pay raise you probably have business model thats not competitive. Its sad because some of them are old businesses that have been in our country for a long time, but on the other side you have the majority of them that do really good. And when we get a increase in pay it benefits 75-80% of the workforce in Norway. The 10-12% that dont get a increase is probably lawyers and so on and they have pr.hour pay that is way higher than the pr.hour compaired to the rest of the Norwegian people. But for most of the Norwegians this is a very good arrangement that keeps the balance between each work place equal, so we get payed more or less the same if your a painter or a hairdresser.
Yes, I knew.
If your business can’t afford the Norwegians standard, your business is out. That’s why we don’t have Amazon in Norway. Well, they are banned though, but it’s because of their working conditions.
Nope. That´s just because Amazon doesn´t like to pay their employees. They´re more than welcome to work in Norway. Just know that your employees are entitled to sick leave. I have no idea how you accept this in the US, that you have to show up for work, even if you´re dying? How can you leave a decision like this in the hands of a company official with 2 weeks of training?
Amazon is not banned in Norway... Where did you find this info?
Temu is in Norway, and I am sure that is 100% worst then Amazon. If Amazon came to Norway, the small business market in Norway would crash. You wouldn't have to go to several shops to find a certain screw.
@@FallenHoot he probaly thinks of walmart where the oil fund is not allowed to invest in it because of human rights. But Amazon would never work in Norway, they would lose alot of money. Their are so many factors that would make Amazon to fail. Like walmart did in Germany where they started to do the american way
@@FallenHoot
You are right. They were only undesirable without any legal action taken, and I did probably mix it up with Uber.
@@oh515No, you’re right in regards to Amazon. We can order things from British or US or other Amazon-sites, but there isn’t an "amazon.no" so we have to have to pay import taxes on everything, with some excemptions. Amazon also doesn’t have any distribution centres in Norway. Not that they couldn’t have a Norwegian Amazon if they wanted - companies like Lego and CDON have Norwegian sites, but ship their goods from outside of Norway.
My Grandpa would get coupon's here and there to save a few Nok here and there.
But if he asked for 500 nok he would throw you 1000 nok.
In his mind the 5-6 nok he saved using coupons was worth more then the 500-1000 nok.
And he admitted it was dumb, but he could just never adjust his mind to the fact that 5 nok wasn't a lot of money xD
It's always been like this, but you also get local rise on top of this
well, we used to have people sitting in toll booths and so on aswell, but as he sais, it's to expencive, so we have to automate everything so that the higher ups can earn twice as much money as before. at the moment a production worker can not have a house and survive on his own income any more. our wages look impressive from the outside, but the insane cost of living will limit us to much so we live hand to mouth aswell. we tend to drive to sweden to buy cheaper food despite the swedish kroner being stronger than ours, it's still cheaper over there than here.
Fun fact: The 20 NOK pr. shirt woman is the previous prime minister. :D Not sure when this was originally aired, though.
This used to be true, that the unions and company owners would work together to lower the pay-rises. It's still the case to some extent, and a great deal of reforms are built around the situation being like it is explained here.
But what he doesn't go into is that it's not difficult accept a percentage-wise small raise when your salary already is big. Your purchase-power is still going to be high. And that having a lower-rung job wasn't just limited to factory workers or menial workers, but also teachers, nurses and any kind of public sector job. So we're talking about basically an acceptance for that the most necessary types of jobs should simply not be devalued against the highest paying jobs.
There are a number of good reasons why this shouldn't be done that are never discussed in any labour-union meeting.
As we get nearer the 80s, this situation changes - but not very quickly. So although people could afford any amount of luxuries in the 80s that they couldn't before, build a house on one salary in a family of four, that kind of thing, it's not like people who were paid a lot of money somehow lowered their pay in solidarity with the teachers. That never happened. So the mechanism described here is something that took place in the 60s at the latest.
While what is going on now and since the 80s is simply that people argue that you are going to have to be able to live well on a pay-check for a full-time job.
Which leads us into the next program, I'm assuming: health-care, public school, student loans, various public services being funded by tax-money to make sure everyone has access to those services. What this means is that with a progressive tax-system, your semi-average pay is going to allow you a higher standard of living. And that /if/ we weren't actually paying as much taxes as we are --- well, then we'd be free to spend quite a lot of money on optionals. But the total cost of being sick would be, as it is in many places, completely deblitating.
The higher cost of living in general also plays a role here. So that this union would not be arguing that they should lower the pay of the higher paying jobs and raise the factory-workers' pay at all - they'd be arguing (as the labour party has been, until very recently) that it is good for the economy that everyone has a decent pay that they can purchase things for. And that it's incredibly bad for the economy, specially in a small country, if just a few people can pay for school, health, and so on.
This makes intuitive sense, obviously. And still doesn't involve the political reasons that have been forgotten after.. the 1960-70s, about how allowing a very large amount of capital in the hands of very few people is a tremendously bad thing for a country. Since it will make sure that political power also is collected on similarly few hands. Every public program -- that are all systematically undermined by the conservative majority, and now also the labour-party - where they used to cooperate to keep them in place -- are designed to prevent that.
And if you really look into it, what you'll find is that although engineers on average are paid less than an average engineer in the US - what you will notice is that specialists in certain fields are paid either more, or are left with significantly more when you consider the cost of health-insurance, health-care, pensions, and various public services added on top.
In other words: not only is it easy to convince people that a 3% raise that makes out the entire pay of a lower-rung worker is ok - it's also easy to convince specialists that getting their entire pay, after taxes, out for their own use as long as you live in Norway, even if you're sick and even if you need really expensive medication, and even if you end up not working at all -- is a good deal.
As time moves on now, we are seeing another chapter to this, and it's that the "median" pay is rising a great deal. While people who are in the lower rung are basically part-time workers, or people who don't get a good contract. They're working in temp-jobs permanently, they have a shift every now and again. And receive minimal amounts of pay from the commune as compensation, or just live on savings for a while. And they don't lower the "median" pay, just because they don't end up making a family, they don't have a "household", and they don't have real jobs on a contract. They're just filling in the gaps in the labour-force when the companies are saving pennies on shortening shifts below 4,5 hours, or dropping the full-time positions in favour of having people come in from the commune on "salary-compensation".
And this group just doesn't exist in those statistics, even if they are highly educated, or have job-experience of various kinds. I know a teacher who worked like this for 20 years. I used to work in a bank like this for 15 years, before I upgraded my pay by working in a convenience store. Because you don't get a full-time contract, and so your "high" hourly rate is not much to brag about. While the "low" rate of the super-specialist getting 50 euro an hour is not a problem - because you're not hired on a project. They're hired to a permanent position, and you can switch jobs at will. And do so, having severance pay and then unemployment benefits with massive amounts of pay in comparison to the lower rung people, without any problem whatsoever. And if you get sick - what's the problem? You are not going to go bankrupt unless you're an absolute wastrel.
So although this stuff sounds nice on paper - and it certainly was the case that solidarity setups in pay-rises did occur (in extremely bad times in the olden days) - this is not how Norway works. And it certainly wasn't how Norway worked when this program was made.
It's on the right track, of course. And it is explanations that make sense, and is based on real models - never mind based on entirely real theories about how things should work by economists and economical advisers to various governments in the civil service. But to just pretend like there hasn't been, or that there isn't now, an economical under-class in Norway is just completely idiotic.
As the guy says: yes, a worker on the absolutely lowest pay in Spain is going to be paid a lot less than in Norway. And that's like saying that we've removed the absolutely worst poverty in the world, while also raising the cost of living to a high rate. Like in Britain: there is a market for food and goods sold to a lower-earning part of the work-force, and that makes things kind of work - that wouldn't have worked in Norway.
In the same way: you only get to spend a ton of money from your salary on vacation if the krone is strong. Like it is now, when the currency is weak, you're basically not going to get very far with your extra money either in Norway or otherwise. So this decent enough pay is going to be ok, for sure. After all, we don't have abject poverty. But you're not going to be comparatively richer than a cashier in Spain or in the US. Specially if you count people who don't work at Walmart and Costco - oh, all of a sudden it turns out that you're not actually that far above the level of "gigantic conglomerate magnate person hates workers and just lowers their pay" rate. We have benefits, though - although they are rapidly undermined, as mentioned. But the actual level of living is not absurdly much higher.
But you can do that anyway, because you won't die from being paid an average job, right..? That's the hidden part of why this works. You can actually work less and get less rich - and you still end up being able to afford health-care and somewhat decent standard of living.
And that's important. But this is not about the average pay being so remarkably much higher, or about how company-owners in Norway end up accepting that they should pay everyone a decent wage. That's just utter and total bullshit. The amount of battles that have been going on just in the last decade over locking down /illegal/ work contracts in the construction business, for example, is comical.
But it's like this, because everyone knows that if you actually pay what the job is worth - then a new home will cost 6 million kroner rather than 3. It's a huge problem, that just inflates the house-market, and prohibits the kind of construction boom that we have had for a very long time. And it's exactly the same going on in the temp-bureau business. It's a cooperation between companies and the temp-bureaus to force people to end up half-way on state benefits and half-way on a salary.
And it's not going to last, simple as that. Because first the benefits are lowered. And then the salaries are dropped on the lower-rung jobs again. And then you'll end up with poverty in Norway as well. Because we do not have low-cost goods that would be targeted at a large enough group of lower-earning people. Nor do we have public services that then would still be affordable on the lowest possible pay. All of that system is just going out the window.
I do wonder though, if our small populations is a factor too. We are very few people, compared to those larger nations.
A healthy economy, is an economy where people can afford to buy the services on offer.
Yea. great show. its a couple of episodes, worth watching ;)
If i quit or lost my job right now. This happens :
1: Nav ( goverment ) Look at what i earn the last 3 years.
2: Take the year i made the moste $.
3: Give me 60 % of that. Untill i get a new job.
This repets every year. So after 3 years. il get less , and so on.....
So i wanna get back to work as fast as posible.
But i can live like a normal human while i look for a new job ( like we live in Norway). Cant do anything fun tho, like football in england or winter travels to spain. XD
Unions in Norway are fairly strong. Most workers are in some sort of union and that union is most likely a sub-union of one of the big unions. Unions also have international ties. British unions do have a bit of the same (Norwegian unions were modeled off of British unions back in the day), but I suppose they don't have the same sort of top level organization like LO and YS. And maybe not as many people are organized these days? I think it depends a bit on what you do? Like, a coal miner would be much more likely to be organized than a plumber today. A plumber would also much more frequently be a sole trader. This makes the plumber more vulnerable to shifts in the economy. Anyway, everyone should unionize. Don't be a scab! ✊🏻
I like to pack my own bags, I also don't buy bags, I have tote bags, and a backpack. I pack it how I want it to be. So I don't see the need for that job.
I'm a Norwegian game design student, and after watching the video I've realized what may be a reason why so many game companies go bankrupt in Norway. It's because the companies can't afford to pay their workers. Games take a long time to make, and if you are just starting out it means your company won't generate any income until you actually release a game. Obviously there are a lot of factors at play here, but I am very curious to find out why the Swedish games industry is absolutely booming, while the Norwegian games industry is suffering.
Buying power. It does not matter if a teacher in Argentina earn half of what they do in UK, if the Argentinian can buy double of goods for the money than the UK teacher. (not real example) Life is a challenge in any western country if you are living hand to mouth. Family, community and heritage can help you on the way to a great life. Grad students as he mentioned at the end, they live off mommy and daddy that may live in very different income families and sometimes take loans to not let their offspring felt left out , even if they cannot afford it.
6:08 Being educated opens the horizon for new jobs. Those jobs won't necessarily pay more tho, you just get more alternatives.
This show is more than 20 years old. This used to be the Norwegian system. During the 1990-ties our politicans very slowly and almost secretly has change much of this, as they have been taking us into a neo liberalistic system as well, and been the ones to create jobs, often for themselves with really, really high wages. The wage gap has been going up since the 1980-ties, and we are not really egalitarian anymore, even though the majority seems to think so because the ones with very little are still in the minority, and made up of people who are not able to work of immigrants, especially those who have not been integrated into work, some eternally refugees withouth papers. The prosperety and wealth from such an egalitarian society as shown in this video seems to be lost on many, but the last years more and more people seem to realise what is going on. But because part of our culture also has been trust in politicans and our leaders this has taken a very, very long time.
Hello! This program is from 2020. You must be confused with the figures here but most of what is presented here i real today.
@@Drawingve You are right about the age of the show, I looked it up online and got the wrong date at first. About what is presented, I wish it was so.
Thik he fails to mention the way that taxes are spent i Norway though. That is sad as it is a equaly importand part of the "mixed economy" that Sweden too was so good at back in the days.
UK really used to be more like the Scandinavian nations before Margaret Thatcher had the NPM (New Public Management) refroms that she and Ronald Reagan loved so much. UK was heading for the same political and financial directions as the Nordic nations took. But she managed to derail UK totaly.
Check "Uti vår hage" instead 👌
Bruttonasjonalprodukt (BNP)=GDP. Western countries have been on an upward path since the 30's (at least), but the thing with that graph, is that there should have been a huge bump in the 70's because of sudden influx of oil money. But the 800% rise total should not be too different from other countries, especially from 1945 going forward. I would suspect Germany and Britain and USA having very similar graphs. Britain's graph would probably have more the same shape as Norway's for the last 50 years as compared to Sweden and Denmark, and that's because of the oil, but the end result ought to be quite similar. Until Brexit. Brexit and years and years of Tory rule has ravaged your economy and working class. And (the "new" "tankie free") Labour has announced that it'll get worse instead of just hiking the shit out of taxes for the rich. We'll see in October, is it? Sorry for the rant. 😁
Unfortunately Norway joined EU's ACER, and now manufactures have to pay 3 times as high energy prices as they did earlier. I fear this will make us unable to compete at the same level with the same high wages for unskilled labor.
Now we have the same energy costs as our Europeen competitors.
Norway should have been a part of Great Britain since the 13th century.They had the oppurtunety,but declined😖Perhaps it could still happen instead of being a part of Eu ?
Maybe we can still hope ?
uni and collage is free
"hadebra" or just "hade" is something you say when you leave someone, so I guess Goodbye is ok, but it actually means "have a good time", so the translation is a bit off.
This nordic maan if complex of all corruptions ,,,,,same faith will hav as rest of these
Don't show this to Donald Trump. he will get a haert attack
On vanity plates in Norway: You'll have to pay about £800 to own the rights to your plates for 10 years, and you basically register an alias for one of your vehicles. Runkeskilt. Wanking plates. If you can afford to waste that much money on what amounts to a very, very short bumper sticker, and you choose to do it, you really are a wanker.
From being elagitary this is BS. Equal ?
Everyone is talking about Norway is rich that is not true you still have poor people in norway but they are more hidden
U will be dragged 2 afgganitsaan ,,,,gently ,,,,4 the finaal pybak
I have an enormous respect for Harald Eia, but he is slightly wrong about something here. Norway as a country, was fairly rich from the beginning. But we were highly capitalist, so that only the wealthy had a right to vote, for instance. That meant that while Norway was rich, most people were poor and I would ask; what matters? He does make my point, but he doesn't make it as clearly as I would've wanted - perhaps in order to speak to the other side of politics. It was egalitarianism and redistribution of wealth that enables people to succeed that was our first success. Free education, including university means that we make maximum use of our pool of talent. We give you money to finance your life while you're studying for free, but if you don't pass, then it's a student loan. If you do pass, it's a scholarship. We enable and we add pressure. «Do your duty and claim your rights», we say.
The host, Harad Eia, is a comedian but the worst of it's kind. When I see Eia trying to be funny, I switch tv channel. Sometimes I get to see wether Eia can make me laugh but that never fails. He can't make me laugh
It’s a lie, and its good lie, we are only rich outside of Norway, but lately value of NOK has fallen, perhaps it has gone too far (too many businesses failing), and perhaps, the types of enterprises that are successful under cut, what made Norway great to begin with.
norway has so many stupid things that hurts industry
Harald Eia is great, but I'm not at all buying that the unions are the difference and not the oil. Remember seeing this on TV. The unions are great and very comparable to the swedish system (and probably many other european countries), but the oil is what makes Norways economy larger per capita. More money in equals more money out. The unions existed for ~80 years before Norway found oil, and I don't think the wages were high back then. In fact, people in Norway often talk about how poor Norway used to be back in early 20th century.
Look at sweeden like you said. They do not have oil and have a very similar economy to Norway. Yes oil certainly helped push us a bit higher than we otherwise would have. But look at out GDP per capita before the oil and you will see it was still on the top in Europe. You have google. Its a simple search^^ have a good day
@@adm7998 Can't find a reliable source far enough back in time, but at the moment the GDP per capita is about 50 % higher in Norway, and i still believe it is mostly due to oil and gass and not the unions. And also that it is quite a significant push. But I can agree to some extent that Sweden has its iron ore historically and still boosting the swedish industry and economy in similar ways as the norwegian oil, only a lot smaller. But just look at the state budget, which always is about how much is gonna be taken from the oil fund. To norwegians it's normal. To basically every other country on the planet it's cheating. Very clever indeed and other countries should learn from it. However, it still means that every mistake can be counteracted with the oil fund. Every wish can be fulfilled. We'll see who's right when the demand for oil and gas might go down:) I even believe Nicolai Tangen touched the subject in his recent Bloomberg interview.
Natural resources like fish, wood and later oil were indeed a big part of it, but I still think the unions are the biggest factor. You can find many countries around the world that have oil and are poor, but I doubt there are any countries with our system that are poor.
@@wainerkorven Like i said. Oil certainly helps our economy, no doubt about that. But it is not the reason for our success:)
Fun fact: Oil only accounts for 1/3 of the funds profit. Meaning it will keep growing even if all Oil stopped flowing. The fund is self sufficient at this point.
As for the "politicians can use the fund to correct mistakes". While yes this is true to a certain extent, the politicians can never actually touch the holding in the fund. (Wich is why it keeps growing)
They can only touch a maximum of 3% of the DIVIDENTS/INTERRESTS.
My ending point is simply that the nordic countries have very similar economies, and all of us have unions that work with the employer AND the employee. If we had never found Oil, we would still be among the top gdp per capita countries in Europe. And that is also why we did not feel the need to actually use the income from Oil when it eventually started flowing in:)
@@adm7998The reason why the fund is not dependent on oil is most likely because it is in their guidelines to actively focus on green investments to help the global transition away from fossil fuels. Some call it ironic, but I would rather say it's very responsible. However, I agree with you that it is very likely that Norway would be in the top tier even without oil. To make my point short and simple though, i believe the oil is the reason why Norway is ahead of their nordic neighbours which has the same union philosophy or even stronger (just look at the Tesla strike in Sweden that is not present in Norway). The swedish industry is massive and always has been, but the GDP per capita is still only 2/3 of Norway. With unions practically the same, and with a larger industry in Sweden if you exclude oil in Norway, in my head that means that the oil is very likely what causes the extra ~40-50 % gdp per capita compared to Sweden and Denmark. But still in the top tier, yes very likely!
This Harald Eia guy is kind of a hack tbh.
Firstly, this is not exactly right and it is not at all funny. One has to take into consideration that the basic goods people need, to survive are all very costly. Much more costly than any country we compare with. Groceries, fruit, vegetables and I can go on, are much cheaper in the countries mentioned. Cost of living and climate temperatures play a major role as well as transportation in a country such as Norway, with its scattered population. Sorry mate, this is all rubbish.
Well I thing you live in Norway but when you say that the program is all rubish I`m not sure you have been to Norway at all. THe big line in the program is correct, small differences compared to other countries. You will find some points in this that is not correct but its details. High salary and high cost and this was in 2020. Today the cost for many is a lot higher because they tought it was free money from the bank when they took a loan to buy a house, tesla, big boat og a cottage. Interest rate they had maybe heard abaut but it was 2% og less so it didnt matter.
The figures provided in the video had already taken the higher cost of living into consideration.
Well, Larsen, thats like your opinion man..
Sounds like you live a painful life in a 4 season country.
Stay in there dude 🎉
@@mmarijus no, On the contrary, I am fortunate the way I live. I speak about the people in general in one of the richest countries in the world, who are heavily taxed and are robbed of their previous cheap electricity which is the property of the people. And if one cannot understand that once you compare salaries in different countries, one has to also compare what the cost of living is in each country. The richest of Norway is sadly not distributed evenly and the gap between those who struggle and the ones more fortunate is growing rapidly. That is my concern. If you are not able to see that as a foreigner, please study the society of Norway a bit deeper. And my last name/surname is: Dahl-Larsen with all due respect.
D- L, are you now compairing Norway with other countries?
What country do you compile with?
I guess you realize there are some returns for the tax you pay?
You want to compair a pregnent Norwegian with an Italian? You want to talk about NAVere? Medicines? Electricity refund?
You have to bring out the good stuff to give this more balance. If not you will sound like a complainer in perfect MAGA style.
Are you Frp?
The cooperation between workers unions and employers unions is regarded as the most important successfactor, it’s called ‘trepartssamarbeidet’.
One consequence less talked about, in stark contrast to i.e. the US, is the fact that if a company cannot afford to pay it’s workers a decent wage, it doesn’t really have a right to exist. It is generally accepted that such companies goes bankrupt. This would never fly in the US.
We also have minimum wage laws for trades that have increased risk of social dumping. It makes less social differences, and benefits the society overall.