Yup! She was told of she was ever found out that the plan would fail (a plan she litterally was kept out of the loop about). She wasn’t even told that this trial was the final step in the plan. (Hence she was willing to put her hand in the water as that would be the only way to keep her cover for the plan). So sad! Furina deserves better!
That part when Furina was about to reach her culminating point before Neuvillette pleaded her "guilty" you could literally feel she was suffocating. I think if I was in her shoes, I'd be gonna throw up or become crazy instead of having time to process to sit down 😭
@@fierytigergaming8112 depend on how fast you play her story quest, the best presumption would be that it took place like a months after the flood (best presumption of average flood aftermath management) I think one of those weeks she took a deserved vacation, she definitely discover macaroni
@@madsmbrc.g8644He did, in his own way of saying something akin to leaving the past as is but instead forward ahead. I read this this elsewhere from someone else.
@@tisanaluk I heard that you should also include leap years because there is leap years in Teyvat and its 364 days. And then it might lead to a perfect 500 year
@@cracuss31n52 IDK that... So, I use 365.25 days which is from the real-world day in 1 year. But Focalor take some time before she come up with the plan after Egeria gone, she said that she nearly grows a barnacle when she come up with the idea. That time can may be counted to the fulfill what shy of 500 years in the result =w=
I rarely cry but this archon quest made me weep like a baby. Happy Furina is finally living her life At first being only able to slowly walk in her “Scene”, but being able to run as she gets better at acting and all the dialogue just hit me right in the stomach. And I started bawling when Neuvillette cried The emotion behind Neuvillette’s voice after that moment (sounded like he was triying his best not to cry) just made me cry even more. The genuine anger in his voice when he said “we must mete out punishment to that beast” sealed the deal. Also it broke my heart how after all this happened Furina just packs her stuff and leaves quiety.
@@isegeese Yep I like this type of archon quest more than getting bonked by raiden for 3 months until you build the characters that can finally beat her 😅
Yess. She’s finally at peace. She went from one of the characters that I didn’t like much to someone I held dear in myheart. It’s also why I’m pulling her C2 and gave her the best Golden troupe artifacts I had 😅
Even if Furina told Traveler the truth in the Magic Box, Paimon would just spill it to the world. She can't keep a secret to save her life. I was crying during the scene with Furina's Opera and how she was breaking. And seeing Neuvillette realizing how alone Furina has been for 500 years.
which is why i'm happy she didn't tell us, because WE might not be from teyvat, but our emergency food certainly is! sneaky emergency food, being spyware for the heavenly principles so well she didn't even show up in the re-enactment in furina's inner world
@@plaidhatter1674 The walls open, Furina is on stage with the Traveler after just telling them the truth and they go "Whoops, wrong destination! Liney pack it back up!" so he does and they just drive away in the magic box. Problem solved! Doesn't matter since she wouldn't have opened up anyway, but it's not like there was no way to stop the trial before it started. The moment she stood accused was the point of no return. Furina was made of pretty stern stuff, though. She wouldn't have talked even when given the chance.
Ok guys,remember,paimon os from teyvat,if she revealed the thruth,the whole plan would be destroyed (I also belive in the theory that paimon might be a pet of the heavenly principles so you know,that too)
If we keep this character development where the archons dedicate their lives even more than the previous one, we’ll have the Tsaritsa feeding her people with her own blood.
I mean in some way all of them are dedicating their lives for their own people. Even raiden dedicated her life for her people. Even though it was twisted because of certain factors that played in inazuma's history, you can't really say she didn't dedicate her life for her nation in a way she "knows".
I'm so curious about the Tsaritsa. The Travail trailer described her as being "A god with no love left for her people, nor do they have any left for her" but in Childe's voice line about her, he called her very "gentle soul", too gentle even. I just wanna know what the deal is!
@@astromechasi think it's saying like she gives all her love to them while as now she has no more left to give. Cause she already gives them her love.
Im definetely so happy that furina can now be happy and have a good life,she deserve to be happy,she saved fontaine in 500 years,she was so strong to keep this in 500 years,shes perfect,love her
Man I love that Genshin shows the dark side of Godhood and the damage it can do to someone. It shows the human side of the Gods we see. Venti and how he drinks away his sorrows, Zhongli being exhausted and wanting to retire, Ei losing all the people she loves and then locking herself away, Nahida being a young soul who still has much to learn about the world, and Focalors wanting to be with humans and experience their culture; willing to sacrifice herself for her people and so her human self can live the ordinary life she always wanted to.
When you find yourself on a throne that doesn't belong to you and have no choice but to go beyond perfection lest the imposter be exposed. It doesn't matter if the real deal ain't ever this good, people expect them to be. Even a fake human royal only has to hang on for a few decades and that's plenty enough to go mad. Five centuries is a whole new brand of hell.
The sad thing about the Trial was: Even after they realized that they put their own Archon on trial, which fulfil the prophecy, no single soul even cares for her, the Archon just sat there, lifeless, seeing her country sank, and after all of her sacrifice, none even gave her an apology or at least a hug (except Focalors). She simply picked up her things and left. Furina is really the forgotten Saint of Fontain.
CyYu displays Hitchcock's "bomb theory" perfectly. When you know something is about to happen and it does happen, it leaves the audience with a more satisfying ending than if the audience were to never know it was going to happen and then it happens.
I just realized that when Furina walked out of the Opera…she was fully expecting everything to be destroyed and with no more humans alive…but I do have a question…would they Melusine also dissolve? They’re not Oceanids turned humans so maybe they wouldn’t?
@@Ivy-jq6diweren't they made from Elynas and Fontainian blood being mixed though? I wonder if that would've made them immune or would they still be vulnerable
@@ALegendarySol yes it's from when the ordo had a fight inside elynas. After an explosion the parts lodged themselves into elynas's body. The mecha parts mixed with elynas (blood I think) and melusine were born that's why they have those gears as tokens. Those are the parts which resulted in their creation. Though it can just be elynas blood that made them and the parts are just mementos of the reason behind their creation.
Everything about Furina’s trial legitimately hurt me. I knew something was seriously wrong the moment she got frantic. It’s no wonder why she gave up and accepted her death sentence. If I were in her shoes, I probably would’ve done the same thing. (Mind you, that was before we learned the truth about her history) I mean, even before the trial, she thought that she finally found a confident, only for them to betray her, and actively work against her! After everything that happened, I would’ve left Fontaine and never set foot in that nation again. (Or leave it for a little while at the very least) Just to be clear, I understand that we needed answers, and I hate the "just trust, and obey" mindset as much as anyone. But there had to be a better way.
Furina deserved better, not this masquerade of lies & suffering. This archon quest did not disappoint and almost made me wanna cry for her. It’s like a well written opera filled with all kinds of emotion and tons of heartaching moments.
I feel like nearly everyone has forgotten this. But it was confirmed our Sibling cannot be the Third Descender. Because our sibling has records within Irmunsul. Nahida revealed that during the 3.x Archon quest. Our sibling is a Teyvat Native. In order to have your records within Irmunsul you need to have been born on, or created on Teyvat. Our sibling does have records within the info tree but they're being blocked by some unknown force so Nahida cannot access the info for us. But just telling us that our sibling is a native reveals they are not a descender. Because descenders do not have records within that info tree.
Just a theory technically if our sibling is the third descender which is possible as in the first cutscene in game the twins were described as travelers and talked about how they were about to leave for the next world again, what if when he was turned into a gnoses his spirit/energy got released and wasn’t cleansed linking it to teyvat, as we know from xiao, gods essences/spirit/energy needs to be cleansed otherwise it infects the world around their corpse. what if this happened as we know our sibling was sealed like us but unlike us he seems to have been “released” straight away, well what if him being recorded inside irmunsul is due to what happened when he/she was converted into the gnosis and what we’ve seen so far of them is just a leyline disorder, as we’ve seen on that one island in inazuma leyline disorders can bring beings from the past into the future and even suspend them in time, what if due to the sibling’s extraordinary power it’s just doing this on a continental scale, just something I’ve thought about as the lore seems to be all over the place for our sibling and we know genshin loves to throw curveballs in the storytelling
But that logic was weird tho since our sibling came with us into Teyvat. We were both outsiders. How come our sibling is a Teyvat native while we're the descender? It doesn't make sense. There's a loophole in that logic. So i suspect that our sibling might have died but was reincarnated by the Abyss or something hence why she/he is now recorded as a Teyvat Native but an unknown force is blocking further info (Abyss maybe?)
Traveler and Paimon caused her to break, Furina manage to deceive her people for 500 years, endured it, and now putting her to trial finally break her and also the ending of the Hydro Archon, a final dance before , the death by Guillotine
2:26:37 i cannot get over how beautiful the key change into a Major key here is. after spending upwards of an hour crying over how depressing and painful Furina's story was leading up to this, it feels genuinely _freeing_ to see it all go so damn well in the end. to see her dedication was _worth_ it, and the music just _perfectly_ encapsulates the elation she feels as she realizes exactly that. this game is just too freaking good...
Paimon are getting more SUS, the fact that she can answer all the question that the traveler have been ask in a Seconds, while the traveler still thinking
I didn't notice it in my play through, but Neuvillette mentions the "gnoses" comes from the Third Descender. Plural, as in possibly all of them may be split up remains of one person. Maybe the lady the travelers fight in the beginning
You know who came before our traveler (the fourth descender)? The sibling. Maybe there isn’t any trace of the other twin as a descender because they weren’t supposed to be one. The reason why she/he might be hiding at the abyss is to scape what is supposed to happen.
My theory was correct this whole time. Furina has 100% won me over so glad I have her too. The only Dialogue I missed was was when Louvine cleary wanted to marry Jurieu. Fun dialogue of the man missing the signs. Melus and Sliver best npcs ever
Paimon is definitely a little more sus, she was a lot more bitchy towards furina over any other archon, almost like she knew all along that she was deceiving the heavenly principles but couldn’t directly intervene
1:50:45 I agree i will not take furina slander she desrved so much better the fact she had to play as the hydro archon and she couldn't be free anyway possible for 500 years she could've even be happy or feel happiness because of the pressure she got for being an archon
QwQ playing this through and seeing this again... breaks me. The suffering of furina is on another level... in nahidas archon quest I was angry, in furinas archon quest I am breaking down and crying... I cannot fandom her loneliness. It is too much. T_T
If at the end of the archon quest, Furina finally becomes human and her own, independent person without the responsibilities of a god, does that mean she now has the lifespan of a human?
I guess so, since the only thing keeping her alive for so long was her curse. Now that it has been lifted, there is nothing providing her with immortality.
I have played, and now watched this quest many times and yet I still tear up/cry, and my heart cries every time. Also Funina is the GOAT, Absolute W of a person, she deserves all the hugs! Also Also hey CyYu why dont you share the script real quick.
3:05:20 No. our Twin is in Irminsul, as a resident of Teivat. He is not the fourth descended. only We. Why? as yet unknown, there are many theories on this occasion
lol why is childe so much more badass in cutscenes while we get discounted childe? Now it makes 2 archons in a row who sacrificed everything, including their lives for their people...
If following the version updates from Sumeru 4.0 - 4.2 is the Archon quests 4.3 will be some sort of epilogue to that. 4.4 will be the interlude aka Abyss stuff with Dain The rest before 5.0 will be more event focused, but that might change with all the craziness happened so far. But the update around Jan-Feb is usually reserved for the Lantern Rite.
I hope in 4.3 or some future version, Neuvillette reveal Furina's secret to the people of Fontaine and then they ask for her to return to the opera house to become their Archon once again despise her not having the power of the gods
@@J-manli I've just finished it. It seems nobody other than Neuvillette and the Traveler knew about her secret though (okay Paimon too), so my opinion still stands. One way or another, Furina deserves the title of Hydro Archon, for real this time.
To clarify some things from Skirk’s dialogues: 1) By implication, in the original prophecy Skirk is the one who beats down the whale-with or without Child meeting and fighting the whale (since the Traveler is “outside” of Teyvat’s fate in a way…probably). The Traveler and Neuvillete coming and this battleground are outside of the gaze of the gods…probably. 2) Skirk’s master is “The Foul,” a male. Other named like “The Visionary” and “Gold” are other names Skirk heard from her master, “the Foul.” We know that those from the Hexenzirkel are on a similar plane/power as “The Foul.” 3) [while not really from Skirk’s dialogue] it appears that nations in Teyvat-especially since the establishment of The Seven-are judged by the actions of their archons, their “kings”. Khaenri’ah’s people were cursed even though Dainslef’s dialogues suggest that it was due to the actions of Khaenri’ahs rulers that the nation was wiped out by the Heavenly Principles/Celestia/whichever heavenly gods. Fontaine had a judgement pronounced upon it because of the actions of its archon, granting the with of her oceanic familiars to become human. And yet celestia’s/the heavenly principle’s/fate’s judgement was a national disaster meant to dissolve all of Fontaine’s people back into Oceanids.
What if paimon is the 3rd descender or what remains of it and the king piece is her while we are the pawn piece since we are able to transform into any of the elements
i think cuz they are figthing in another world outside of teyvat (a world that probably have connection with Honkai world), the dubstep kicked in as to clarify that this is indeed not teyvat
If you read Neuvilette's new lines after the quest, it mentions that the 1st and 2nd created the gnosis using the 3rd's. Also my hot take is that, since we have 7 chakra points or energy focal points, it must be the inspiration(?)
Rather than just being bubble. We should have seen some changes in the statues across fontain in a motage of sorts befor nuvulet abosorving it. It shill doent feel like a arcon is dead. The story is perfection, maybe the statues light go out, maybe we see close up of all arcons sensing what just happened, that could have been chery on top
my big theory about that descender thing....the reason that the tsaritsa collecting the gnoses...most likely means she is going to revive the third descender...but why and for what are the big questions if that is truly what she is trying to do...the quest was so good and i am sure the genshin theorists are going to have a field day.....Surtalogi...the flame sword of Sutr in Norse mythology ...was just bonkers for me
the biggest parts in all of this is that focalors was the last hydro archon, and there will never be another since both the hydro authority and the gnosis has been given away... fontaine is now a godless nation, and "the 7" is now "the 6" since the hydro divine seat is destroyed
my ONLY complaint with this, is arleccino was only around at the beginning and end. wish we couldve seen more of her. buuut im fully expecting more of her in these next few updates.
I've never watched any halloween movies before primarily because I'm not from a halloween celebrating country and so there was never really any social situation that led to that but... Nightmare Before Christmas is SO famous that the best songs within it just end up trickling down to you sooner or later.
Now that I think about it, Can the goddess who capture our sister/brother at the start of the game be "Gold" (or at least be related to Skirk) ? Because, she kind of look similar to Skirk, Skirk can "trap" the whale inside a tiny quantum thing and the goddess can trap our sister / brother inside a tiny imaginary thing.
No, because she's anti-humanity while Gold is (seemingly)super pro-human. Not to mention it's most likely that the intro happened before the calamity, which means Gold would have still been in Khaenri'ah
I just want to say, Wriothesley pulling up with that big ship from the water is the equivalent of Jaina Proudmoore raising her father's ship from the sea. Also this was possibly the best archon quest in my opinion
For anyone that been wondering why him giving up the gnosis still let him keep the power the dragon: The power that was stolen from the dragon was kept at the throne of the seven archons, not in the gnosis. So by destroying the hydro archon seat, the power was returned to him. At the end of act 4 neuvilette did mentioned that the stolen power was the basis for the archon power, but he did not mention gnosis. At that time we only assume that it was the gnosis.
My interesting Theory is that the third decender would be an isekai protag that had the ability to store Dragon Athourity inside objects we call Gnosis and it is redirected to Celestia and after dying, the gnosis became a curse instead of a source of elemental power.
I never got the thought that Traveler told Furina that "I could be your witness." Showing that Traveler really does care and is willing to take Furina's side, she just needs to open up...
I wasn’t a big fan of Furina at first- the personality she put forward reminded me too much of those popular girls in high school who think they’re all that, and they irritated the shiiiiit out of me lol. I didn’t really dislike her- I just wasn’t drawn to her really. I was so hopeful the end of the archon quest would change that for me and holy shit it did not disappoint!!! She’s right up there with Nahida for favourite. Furina’s so strong, going through everything she has like that…
The fact that the twin IS from Teyvet could mean that the twin is just a copy of the "real" twin. The one we see now may be made by Gold like Albedo was. That way the third can be the real twin, and the sibling we see now is just a place holder made to help protect Khaenri’ah. It is possible that they didn't know there were two travelers and the sibling was hurt while trying to save the nation. The copy was given the real twins memories so they knew about us but no one else did. That is why Nahida says our twin is from Teyvet and we are not. Just a thought. If anyone likes lore theory check out a creator called Ashikai. Thanks for the wonderful video.
Neuvillette was still given his authority back. Focalors removed the authority and returned it to him, the gnosis still contains power from celestia but not the dragons appropriated authority
2:18:43 exactly, my dps did even have anything equipped and it was a cake walk. Nerv nothing on except a level one 1 star weapon, Furn lv 70 trash artifacts, basic Fischl, and an ok Shinobu
The fact that Furina shut down completely in the trial cuz she believed she failed haunts me.
That look of hopelessness. She knows she failed and believes everything she did was for naught.
Yup! She was told of she was ever found out that the plan would fail (a plan she litterally was kept out of the loop about). She wasn’t even told that this trial was the final step in the plan. (Hence she was willing to put her hand in the water as that would be the only way to keep her cover for the plan). So sad! Furina deserves better!
@@BurgerBunDogand plus everyone turned on her :(
That part when Furina was about to reach her culminating point before Neuvillette pleaded her "guilty" you could literally feel she was suffocating. I think if I was in her shoes, I'd be gonna throw up or become crazy instead of having time to process to sit down 😭
FRR she suffered for so long and now after all those years she thought she had failed everyone😭😭
She cries not because of the death penalty, but because she thought she was exposed as a human, and then 500 years of effort would be in vain
Not only that, but she believed all the deaths about to happen were her fault. Because she wasn't good enough.
The way that Neuvillette says Furina was simply “tired and needed to rest” was a great end to the archon quest. She deserves that at the very least.
"Tired and needed to rest", huh? Sounds like an understatement
@@fierytigergaming8112She may need a week or 50 to calm down.
@@fierytigergaming8112 depend on how fast you play her story quest, the best presumption would be that it took place like a months after the flood (best presumption of average flood aftermath management)
I think one of those weeks she took a deserved vacation, she definitely discover macaroni
I love that the voice lines from the other archons for Furina are absolute respect because Furina did what she did while being a human.
Meanwhile there’s Venti…
@@tlad2750what about his voicelines? He still showed absolute respect for her actions.
@@madsmbrc.g8644 Well yes, he respects as well, just how other archons praise her actions and Venti just invites her for a drink 🤣🤣
@@madsmbrc.g8644He did, in his own way of saying something akin to leaving the past as is but instead forward ahead.
I read this this elsewhere from someone else.
as a Human, she manage to deceive her people and the Heavenly Principles for 500 years
*Fun Fact: The part when we're in Furina's mind, the "scene 182376" actually equtes to 500 years.*
if it is a scene per day, 182376 / 365.25 = 499.318... But you are RIGHT, in that it nearly the time to hold thing to be in the FINALE =w=
AND that was just the night before the Trial
@@tisanaluk I heard that you should also include leap years because there is leap years in Teyvat and its 364 days. And then it might lead to a perfect 500 year
@@cracuss31n52 IDK that... So, I use 365.25 days which is from the real-world day in 1 year. But Focalor take some time before she come up with the plan after Egeria gone, she said that she nearly grows a barnacle when she come up with the idea. That time can may be counted to the fulfill what shy of 500 years in the result =w=
@@tisanaluk yeah I only heard it from reddit myself and didn't remember any of the details lol
I rarely cry but this archon quest made me weep like a baby.
Happy Furina is finally living her life
At first being only able to slowly walk in her “Scene”, but being able to run as she gets better at acting and all the dialogue just hit me right in the stomach.
And I started bawling when Neuvillette cried
The emotion behind Neuvillette’s voice after that moment (sounded like he was triying his best not to cry) just made me cry even more.
The genuine anger in his voice when he said “we must mete out punishment to that beast” sealed the deal.
Also it broke my heart how after all this happened Furina just packs her stuff and leaves quiety.
SAME BRO... i almost never cry to games but this quest had me so emotional
I mean after 500 years of trying to retain a facade everyday and not able to let anyone in on the plan. She deserves her rest.
@@isegeese Yep I like this type of archon quest more than getting bonked by raiden for 3 months until you build the characters that can finally beat her 😅
Yess.
She’s finally at peace.
She went from one of the characters that I didn’t like much to someone I held dear in myheart.
It’s also why I’m pulling her C2 and gave her the best Golden troupe artifacts I had 😅
BRO ME TOOO😭😭😭😭 I WAS SHEDDING TEARS
Even if Furina told Traveler the truth in the Magic Box, Paimon would just spill it to the world.
She can't keep a secret to save her life.
I was crying during the scene with Furina's Opera and how she was breaking.
And seeing Neuvillette realizing how alone Furina has been for 500 years.
which is why i'm happy she didn't tell us, because WE might not be from teyvat, but our emergency food certainly is! sneaky emergency food, being spyware for the heavenly principles so well she didn't even show up in the re-enactment in furina's inner world
If she had told us everything, maybe not, but at that point, the box was on stage, so there wouldn't be enough time.
@@plaidhatter1674 The walls open, Furina is on stage with the Traveler after just telling them the truth and they go "Whoops, wrong destination! Liney pack it back up!" so he does and they just drive away in the magic box. Problem solved!
Doesn't matter since she wouldn't have opened up anyway, but it's not like there was no way to stop the trial before it started. The moment she stood accused was the point of no return.
Furina was made of pretty stern stuff, though. She wouldn't have talked even when given the chance.
Ok guys,remember,paimon os from teyvat,if she revealed the thruth,the whole plan would be destroyed (I also belive in the theory that paimon might be a pet of the heavenly principles so you know,that too)
I can't imagine the absolute terror Furina felt when she thought that she failed and that all her suffering would be in vain
If we keep this character development where the archons dedicate their lives even more than the previous one, we’ll have the Tsaritsa feeding her people with her own blood.
I mean in some way all of them are dedicating their lives for their own people. Even raiden dedicated her life for her people. Even though it was twisted because of certain factors that played in inazuma's history, you can't really say she didn't dedicate her life for her nation in a way she "knows".
I'm so curious about the Tsaritsa. The Travail trailer described her as being "A god with no love left for her people, nor do they have any left for her" but in Childe's voice line about her, he called her very "gentle soul", too gentle even. I just wanna know what the deal is!
@@astromechasi think it's saying like she gives all her love to them while as now she has no more left to give. Cause she already gives them her love.
Or the blood of her enemies...
@@astromechas he also said she used to be a very gentle soul and not so gentle anymore
Childe looking at the Traveller and Neuvilette: I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS THING FOR A MONTH WHAT THE HELL GUYS
Furina on the throne after 500 years: good luck 👍
Im definetely so happy that furina can now be happy and have a good life,she deserve to be happy,she saved fontaine in 500 years,she was so strong to keep this in 500 years,shes perfect,love her
yeah, she really deserves a long break, after 500 years , I mean, wow, she manage to endure that for 500 years, as a Human, her mentality is amazing
Man I love that Genshin shows the dark side of Godhood and the damage it can do to someone. It shows the human side of the Gods we see. Venti and how he drinks away his sorrows, Zhongli being exhausted and wanting to retire, Ei losing all the people she loves and then locking herself away, Nahida being a young soul who still has much to learn about the world, and Focalors wanting to be with humans and experience their culture; willing to sacrifice herself for her people and so her human self can live the ordinary life she always wanted to.
When you find yourself on a throne that doesn't belong to you and have no choice but to go beyond perfection lest the imposter be exposed. It doesn't matter if the real deal ain't ever this good, people expect them to be.
Even a fake human royal only has to hang on for a few decades and that's plenty enough to go mad. Five centuries is a whole new brand of hell.
It's o e reason why I find the blade hanging over Focelors' head is a reference to the Sword of Damocles.
I feel so bad for Furina.
Same 😢
Why, she's happy. She knows she served justice
Bro I swear she needs a hug
@@lunix3259that's focalor.
No human can take that kind of mental beating, 100% respect
The sad thing about the Trial was: Even after they realized that they put their own Archon on trial, which fulfil the prophecy, no single soul even cares for her, the Archon just sat there, lifeless, seeing her country sank, and after all of her sacrifice, none even gave her an apology or at least a hug (except Focalors). She simply picked up her things and left. Furina is really the forgotten Saint of Fontain.
CyYu displays Hitchcock's "bomb theory" perfectly. When you know something is about to happen and it does happen, it leaves the audience with a more satisfying ending than if the audience were to never know it was going to happen and then it happens.
When the game said Oceanids disappeared from Fontaine, its just because they became human they didnt go anywhere 🤯
inb4 it turns out all the oceanids that fled fontaine were doing their version of "not it!" with the gnosis lol
@@PatriciaKerri Idyia, Rhodeia, Callirhoe: aight, i'm outta here, cya
I never thought I’d end up crying this much for Furina, even days after completing this archon quest 😭
In case you guys missed it, this is the exact same words we hear at Fountain of Lucine easter egg
1:57:53
No shit Sherlock
@@mohammedsaif6450
ight you clearly weren’t included in the ‘Guys who missed it’ so you didn’t have to reply so rudely
Toodaloo 😊
@@nox..thecoolone ma bad
I just realized that when Furina walked out of the Opera…she was fully expecting everything to be destroyed and with no more humans alive…but I do have a question…would they Melusine also dissolve? They’re not Oceanids turned humans so maybe they wouldn’t?
the melusines would've been fine. they're born from elynas who wasn't made from primordial seawater
@@Ivy-jq6diweren't they made from Elynas and Fontainian blood being mixed though? I wonder if that would've made them immune or would they still be vulnerable
@@rehiirthey're made of elynas and maybe mecha parts except sigewinne
@@shadow1919-r2n Wait hold on, Mecha Parts?
@@ALegendarySol yes it's from when the ordo had a fight inside elynas.
After an explosion the parts lodged themselves into elynas's body. The mecha parts mixed with elynas (blood I think) and melusine were born that's why they have those gears as tokens. Those are the parts which resulted in their creation.
Though it can just be elynas blood that made them and the parts are just mementos of the reason behind their creation.
Since maybe it wasn't seen, the guards in Furina's inner world have the names: (Chains)A Cry Without Echo and A Silence Without End.
I love that Charlottes' survival instincts overtook her journalist instincts when they reached the Knave
Everything about Furina’s trial legitimately hurt me. I knew something was seriously wrong the moment she got frantic. It’s no wonder why she gave up and accepted her death sentence. If I were in her shoes, I probably would’ve done the same thing. (Mind you, that was before we learned the truth about her history)
I mean, even before the trial, she thought that she finally found a confident, only for them to betray her, and actively work against her! After everything that happened, I would’ve left Fontaine and never set foot in that nation again. (Or leave it for a little while at the very least)
Just to be clear, I understand that we needed answers, and I hate the "just trust, and obey" mindset as much as anyone. But there had to be a better way.
Furina deserved better, not this masquerade of lies & suffering.
This archon quest did not disappoint and almost made me wanna cry for her. It’s like a well written opera filled with all kinds of emotion and tons of heartaching moments.
I feel like nearly everyone has forgotten this. But it was confirmed our Sibling cannot be the Third Descender. Because our sibling has records within Irmunsul. Nahida revealed that during the 3.x Archon quest.
Our sibling is a Teyvat Native. In order to have your records within Irmunsul you need to have been born on, or created on Teyvat. Our sibling does have records within the info tree but they're being blocked by some unknown force so Nahida cannot access the info for us. But just telling us that our sibling is a native reveals they are not a descender. Because descenders do not have records within that info tree.
Just a theory technically if our sibling is the third descender which is possible as in the first cutscene in game the twins were described as travelers and talked about how they were about to leave for the next world again, what if when he was turned into a gnoses his spirit/energy got released and wasn’t cleansed linking it to teyvat, as we know from xiao, gods essences/spirit/energy needs to be cleansed otherwise it infects the world around their corpse. what if this happened as we know our sibling was sealed like us but unlike us he seems to have been “released” straight away, well what if him being recorded inside irmunsul is due to what happened when he/she was converted into the gnosis and what we’ve seen so far of them is just a leyline disorder, as we’ve seen on that one island in inazuma leyline disorders can bring beings from the past into the future and even suspend them in time, what if due to the sibling’s extraordinary power it’s just doing this on a continental scale, just something I’ve thought about as the lore seems to be all over the place for our sibling and we know genshin loves to throw curveballs in the storytelling
But that logic was weird tho since our sibling came with us into Teyvat. We were both outsiders. How come our sibling is a Teyvat native while we're the descender? It doesn't make sense. There's a loophole in that logic. So i suspect that our sibling might have died but was reincarnated by the Abyss or something hence why she/he is now recorded as a Teyvat Native but an unknown force is blocking further info (Abyss maybe?)
All I know is that with the story getting better with each nation, Sneznaya is gonna be insane
More tissues to spend because every region's Archon quest are getting emotional and depressing.
Traveler and Paimon caused her to break, Furina manage to deceive her people for 500 years, endured it, and now putting her to trial finally break her
and also the ending of the Hydro Archon, a final dance before , the death by Guillotine
The scenes after the trial just break me. I've seen it multiple times now and this still makes me cry.
I feel bad for her, she didnt know that this was the trial shes been waiting for, for all she knew, years of suffering went to waste
Cy Yu is the real man, he's not afraid to admit that he was crying 💜
2:26:37 i cannot get over how beautiful the key change into a Major key here is.
after spending upwards of an hour crying over how depressing and painful Furina's story was leading up to this, it feels genuinely _freeing_ to see it all go so damn well in the end. to see her dedication was _worth_ it, and the music just _perfectly_ encapsulates the elation she feels as she realizes exactly that.
this game is just too freaking good...
Ray Chase and Amber Lee Connors are simply amazing... and together wow!! epic!! the delivery!!! the acting!!!! I love it so good
They definitely stole the show
1:15:32 that "woah" was so perfectly timed wtf 😂😂
This story of Justice, it's hurting me to my core and feels all too real to me personally since I relate to Furina (and even Folcalors) so much.
“This gnosis is the first that the Fatui did not get.”
CyYu you spoke way too soon 😭
Paimon are getting more SUS, the fact that she can answer all the question that the traveler have been ask in a Seconds, while the traveler still thinking
I didn't notice it in my play through, but Neuvillette mentions the "gnoses" comes from the Third Descender. Plural, as in possibly all of them may be split up remains of one person. Maybe the lady the travelers fight in the beginning
You know who came before our traveler (the fourth descender)? The sibling. Maybe there isn’t any trace of the other twin as a descender because they weren’t supposed to be one.
The reason why she/he might be hiding at the abyss is to scape what is supposed to happen.
Furina is that one Doom meme, fighting off her people to save them. She got jumped mentally hard
My theory was correct this whole time. Furina has 100% won me over so glad I have her too.
The only Dialogue I missed was was when Louvine cleary wanted to marry Jurieu. Fun dialogue of the man missing the signs.
Melus and Sliver best npcs ever
Paimon is definitely a little more sus, she was a lot more bitchy towards furina over any other archon, almost like she knew all along that she was deceiving the heavenly principles but couldn’t directly intervene
OH, WAIT THATS A GOOD POINT...
Ngl.... That's a good theory
She also got REALLY defensive when N said the Gods were fallible and their gaze didn't reach everywhere
She also acts really sus on Furina's character quest. There's no (apparent) reason she should be treating Furina like she does.
is it me, or does Furina's hat look like a crown of thorns?
.. Furina truly is the Archon of Archons.
It's funny isn't it? An Archon of Archons, and she just another human
1:50:45 I agree i will not take furina slander she desrved so much better the fact she had to play as the hydro archon and she couldn't be free anyway possible for 500 years she could've even be happy or feel happiness because of the pressure she got for being an archon
QwQ playing this through and seeing this again... breaks me.
The suffering of furina is on another level... in nahidas archon quest I was angry, in furinas archon quest I am breaking down and crying... I cannot fandom her loneliness.
It is too much. T_T
If at the end of the archon quest, Furina finally becomes human and her own, independent person without the responsibilities of a god, does that mean she now has the lifespan of a human?
I guess so, since the only thing keeping her alive for so long was her curse. Now that it has been lifted, there is nothing providing her with immortality.
yes
I have played, and now watched this quest many times and yet I still tear up/cry, and my heart cries every time.
Also Funina is the GOAT, Absolute W of a person, she deserves all the hugs!
Also Also hey CyYu why dont you share the script real quick.
I love the fact that knuckles is in "oh no" mode throughout the trial :')
I love we do different things only with Paimon in this quest! Like reading books and eating cake, it's very cute
Focalars AND Furina are both queens! I love them so much T^T
3:05:20 No.
our Twin is in Irminsul, as a resident of Teivat. He is not the fourth descended. only We. Why? as yet unknown, there are many theories on this occasion
Imagine be on a 500-year-long Twitch stream non-stop, plus you don't know when the stream can end
lol why is childe so much more badass in cutscenes while we get discounted childe? Now it makes 2 archons in a row who sacrificed everything, including their lives for their people...
Something I like to remember is Neuvillette says he will judge the heavenly principles just like Fosalor wanted to do
If following the version updates from Sumeru
4.0 - 4.2 is the Archon quests
4.3 will be some sort of epilogue to that.
4.4 will be the interlude aka Abyss stuff with Dain
The rest before 5.0 will be more event focused, but that might change with all the craziness happened so far. But the update around Jan-Feb is usually reserved for the Lantern Rite.
I hope in 4.3 or some future version, Neuvillette reveal Furina's secret to the people of Fontaine and then they ask for her to return to the opera house to become their Archon once again despise her not having the power of the gods
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@@J-manli I've just finished it. It seems nobody other than Neuvillette and the Traveler knew about her secret though (okay Paimon too), so my opinion still stands. One way or another, Furina deserves the title of Hydro Archon, for real this time.
To clarify some things from Skirk’s dialogues:
1) By implication, in the original prophecy Skirk is the one who beats down the whale-with or without Child meeting and fighting the whale (since the Traveler is “outside” of Teyvat’s fate in a way…probably). The Traveler and Neuvillete coming and this battleground are outside of the gaze of the gods…probably.
2) Skirk’s master is “The Foul,” a male. Other named like “The Visionary” and “Gold” are other names Skirk heard from her master, “the Foul.” We know that those from the Hexenzirkel are on a similar plane/power as “The Foul.”
3) [while not really from Skirk’s dialogue] it appears that nations in Teyvat-especially since the establishment of The Seven-are judged by the actions of their archons, their “kings”. Khaenri’ah’s people were cursed even though Dainslef’s dialogues suggest that it was due to the actions of Khaenri’ahs rulers that the nation was wiped out by the Heavenly Principles/Celestia/whichever heavenly gods. Fontaine had a judgement pronounced upon it because of the actions of its archon, granting the with of her oceanic familiars to become human. And yet celestia’s/the heavenly principle’s/fate’s judgement was a national disaster meant to dissolve all of Fontaine’s people back into Oceanids.
46:37 the VA of Furina is so great! The desperation in her voice truly carried through
What if paimon is the 3rd descender or what remains of it and the king piece is her while we are the pawn piece since we are able to transform into any of the elements
i think cuz they are figthing in another world outside of teyvat (a world that probably have connection with Honkai world), the dubstep kicked in as to clarify that this is indeed not teyvat
If you read Neuvilette's new lines after the quest, it mentions that the 1st and 2nd created the gnosis using the 3rd's. Also my hot take is that, since we have 7 chakra points or energy focal points, it must be the inspiration(?)
36:31 in the chat
_"LeafySeaDrag0n": "ZACH EATS THIS WEEK"_ got me lmao'ing.
Rather than just being bubble. We should have seen some changes in the statues across fontain in a motage of sorts befor nuvulet abosorving it. It shill doent feel like a arcon is dead. The story is perfection, maybe the statues light go out, maybe we see close up of all arcons sensing what just happened, that could have been chery on top
Never let Cyyu, MurderofBirds and Ashikai collab. They're theories will end up spoiling Genshin's story
my big theory about that descender thing....the reason that the tsaritsa collecting the gnoses...most likely means she is going to revive the third descender...but why and for what are the big questions if that is truly what she is trying to do...the quest was so good and i am sure the genshin theorists are going to have a field day.....Surtalogi...the flame sword of Sutr in Norse mythology ...was just bonkers for me
the biggest parts in all of this is that focalors was the last hydro archon, and there will never be another since both the hydro authority and the gnosis has been given away...
fontaine is now a godless nation,
and "the 7" is now "the 6" since the hydro divine seat is destroyed
Rewatching, I still tear up. I'm holding back so much. So much..
Rewatching this quest
It’s truly heartbreaking to see Furina like this
my ONLY complaint with this, is arleccino was only around at the beginning and end. wish we couldve seen more of her. buuut im fully expecting more of her in these next few updates.
I find it funny how in the end, EVERYONE EXCEPT FURINA was an oceanid.
I like how nobody mentioned this, but the theme at the execution stage with focalors is so chill!
I've never watched any halloween movies before primarily because I'm not from a halloween celebrating country and so there was never really any social situation that led to that but...
Nightmare Before Christmas is SO famous that the best songs within it just end up trickling down to you sooner or later.
Now that I think about it, Can the goddess who capture our sister/brother at the start of the game be "Gold" (or at least be related to Skirk) ? Because, she kind of look similar to Skirk, Skirk can "trap" the whale inside a tiny quantum thing and the goddess can trap our sister / brother inside a tiny imaginary thing.
No, because she's anti-humanity while Gold is (seemingly)super pro-human. Not to mention it's most likely that the intro happened before the calamity, which means Gold would have still been in Khaenri'ah
I just want to say, Wriothesley pulling up with that big ship from the water is the equivalent of Jaina Proudmoore raising her father's ship from the sea. Also this was possibly the best archon quest in my opinion
I will say this is very much a Raiden Shogun moment where she split herself in two but instead of her conscience it was her humanity
For anyone that been wondering why him giving up the gnosis still let him keep the power the dragon: The power that was stolen from the dragon was kept at the throne of the seven archons, not in the gnosis. So by destroying the hydro archon seat, the power was returned to him.
At the end of act 4 neuvilette did mentioned that the stolen power was the basis for the archon power, but he did not mention gnosis. At that time we only assume that it was the gnosis.
Was just watching the vod on Twitch too, glad it's here now
The music playing inside the ADN is mixed with synthesized whale calls.
2:09:00 Focalor stating facts and shade all in one sentence!
1:20:37 "Zach be talking today"
xD
He eatin gud
I love that Wriothesley ships Lourvine with Jurieu
My interesting Theory is that the third decender would be an isekai protag that had the ability to store Dragon Athourity inside objects we call Gnosis and it is redirected to Celestia and after dying, the gnosis became a curse instead of a source of elemental power.
his theories are being proven wrong and he is like "yes i was right" lol
I never got the thought that Traveler told Furina that "I could be your witness."
Showing that Traveler really does care and is willing to take Furina's side, she just needs to open up...
do you guys notice the names of the two guards when 1:31:27 are "A Cry Without Echo" "Shackles" and "A Silence Without A End" "Chains"
Focalors is forever GOATED for this
at this point it basicly confirmed that there's no one in celestia. not the heavenly principles, not even the primordial one.
Fontaine is literally the best region story wise to ever come out
Cyyu every five seconds during Focalors speech: “I CALLED IT”
1:57:33 did anyone notice goe furina's eyes were twitching here....like my gosh the amount of stress that cause your eye to twitch
I wasn’t a big fan of Furina at first- the personality she put forward reminded me too much of those popular girls in high school who think they’re all that, and they irritated the shiiiiit out of me lol. I didn’t really dislike her- I just wasn’t drawn to her really. I was so hopeful the end of the archon quest would change that for me and holy shit it did not disappoint!!! She’s right up there with Nahida for favourite. Furina’s so strong, going through everything she has like that…
The fact that the twin IS from Teyvet could mean that the twin is just a copy of the "real" twin. The one we see now may be made by Gold like Albedo was. That way the third can be the real twin, and the sibling we see now is just a place holder made to help protect Khaenri’ah. It is possible that they didn't know there were two travelers and the sibling was hurt while trying to save the nation. The copy was given the real twins memories so they knew about us but no one else did. That is why Nahida says our twin is from Teyvet and we are not. Just a thought. If anyone likes lore theory check out a creator called Ashikai. Thanks for the wonderful video.
THIS CANT BE IT, THIS QUEST SHOULD BE SO MUCH LONGERR
Neuvillette was still given his authority back. Focalors removed the authority and returned it to him, the gnosis still contains power from celestia but not the dragons appropriated authority
albedos mom was maybe a translation mitsake, i think they meant albedos creator.
The traveller's sibling is not a descender for some reason as stated by nahida.
IM CRYING AND SOBBING. I LOVE FURINA SOOO MUCH. MY CUTIE GIRL...
Paimon, the Traveler has fought GODS. Plural. I think that might be just enough to qualify for journalists asking for an interview.
The Va's aslo carried this quest, Kudos 👍
That was very emotional
2:18:43 exactly, my dps did even have anything equipped and it was a cake walk.
Nerv nothing on except a level one 1 star weapon, Furn lv 70 trash artifacts, basic Fischl, and an ok Shinobu
The fountain of lucine probably has triple the amount of water after this quest
CY YU THE ARCHON OF PREDICTIONS