Ford V8 Powered Dual Track Drag Racing Snowmobile - Will It Run after 20+ Years?
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025
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should’ve drove it 600 miles home. a million views right there.
(TO MAKE IT CLEAR, those are my favorite kinds of videos from him!)
🤣
@Andrew Brickhill not to me
Why not get it running and drive it 600 miles AWAY from home?
@@aspalovin i like knowing that it’s his when he drives it home
@@aspalovin that would make it a 2 part vid. Because total milage would be 1200 Miles. This includes the return trip.
Yes! I'd call her "Middle Finger" and revive that red, white, and blue paint scheme. She fits good alongside the Independence Chevelle.
I vote the American Antler cause we all know what it really looks like
@@hankbardukis381 No Step On One-Eyed Snek
How does he do that? Terms like -- "Fuel make-her-happener!"-- are so much a part of Derrick's vocabulary that he throws them in a sentence without pauses or missing a beat in his verbal presentation. It's a gift that is so second nature it makes him very entertaining to watch.
There are times when a guy thinks, "There isnt much that could surprise me these days." Then here comes a little video of Derek who found what crashed in Roswell all those years ago. So freaking good!
And Derek will try to get it running after all those years!
Exactly what I was thinking!
A guy really couldn't agree any more than this guy does. Alien-horse power.
You will need to get a body shop hammer and a some blocks to repair the few dents on the body. Try it out without the body on it, it will be safer if you need to get out of it in a rush. Be safe, love your channel.
It's a snow lam bor geenee.... make that a snow GT40
Having cancer I'm always looking for stuff I can live vicariously through. This is one of those finds that are just so unique and cool. This has me ringing that bell.
Doug I hope you are doing well. God bless
Doug hope your doing well
Doug, we all hope that you're doing ok and cancer free now.
If you're at forever rest, man, I hope so much that you're somewhere better and truly happy.
F**K Cancer. Live well, Doug!
Doug , fuck cancer, how real is god feeling to you now , ive always said DOG bless🤷🏽♂️
When a guy first hooked his peepers on the ol thumbnail he got as confused as a fart in a fan factory as to what contraption a feller had gotten ahold of this time, but I gotta say that thing is neater than a twice ironed shirt! Seriously your doing an awesome job and this is definitely my favorite channel keep on keepin on!
I’m borrowing “confused as a fart in a fan factory”😂
VGG has the the best subscribers/comments ever.
@@528Circle 😂😂agreed sir
Funniest comment ever lmao
Oh for sure brother.
A guy loves when you go in depth with understanding how things work on an old engine. How to read spark plugs and how the entire ignition system works.
It is super educational and at the same time super fun to watch your videos.
A guy is running out of videos from you. I've seen them all.
But a guy can always see them again. Because a guy learn something new every time
there's so much information that you cant put a price on in every one of his videos, things you cant outright search for on youtube, because theyre thrown into his videos as he does the things he talks about.
i love it
just say "i"...why are you talking in pseudo 3rd person like a maxi-schizophrenic person?
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 its a long running gag on this channel
@@njovwevnjweV true :-)
That passionate pool of patriotism at 28:56 is something sorely rare in the world today.... bravo sir.
This dude would make a GREAT automotive teacher for high schoolers or community college. He makes the complicated simple. Does it in a calming way that’s fun!!! Keep on keeping on Professor Vise grip
I agree with you 💯 my friend
@@benjaminbrown109 everything is good
Had a auto tech instructor very much like him in votec, we built 3 rat rods over 2 years, I learned so much in those two years because that man made it fun to learn, now at 19 I’m an engine/ transmission rebuilder at a dealership!
@@kaelbryant7660 stealerships are the worst!
I agree with that.
Easiest way for a rough guess capacity in a ford, pull a spark plug and use a piece of wire down the hole to measure the stroke, 2.870= 221/260/289 (unless it has a 5 bolt bellhousing you can guarantee its a 289, only 65 and earlier ran the 5 bolt bellhousing and no 221/260's had the 6 bolt bellhousing) 3.00= 302, 3.5=351
You can also quickly tell the difference between a 289/302 and a 351W by measuring the width of the intake. The 8.2" deck 289/302 is about 8" wide, while the taller 9.5" deck 351W will have a roughly 11" wide intake manifold. Also, on a 289/302, the pad for the distributor is almost level with the China rail, while it's about an inch down on a 351 because of the taller deck. Both have the thermostat housing in the intake manifold, which is an easy way to tell the difference between a Windsor and a 335-series Cleveland, which has it in the block.
Batman called and wants to know when you'll be done fixin on his snowmobile . ;)
😂😂😂
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA OMG HAHAHA THATS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FREAKIN FUNNY! HA! -_-
Batman called and said that's a Robin nest not a mouse nest!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA/!
That’s a beauty 😂😂😂
“I don’t think he ran this much, at all”. Even the dude who built it was terrified of that thing!
Probably only 1/4mile at a time max. The issue I can see would be hooking the power
to the snow, Otherwise I'd suggest efi and a 200shot of NOS!
302 engines were introduced in 1968 as the replacement for the 289's. There is also a FMX automatic that has the vacuum modulator on the right side but has an aluminum bellhousing & cast iron case. The C-6 also has a single piece bellhousing /body.
I have a home theater and when that engine got running it sounded awesome i can't wait to see more of this thing
You are the 1st person on RUclips that I've heard ever mention a dwell meter. I thought I was the only person that still has 1 in my tool chest. You put out a great video on how too check most older ignition systems. Great job
I bet Mr. Johnson is watching from the great beyond with a smile from ear to ear knowing his neglected creation is now in very capable hands. Can’t wait to see it in action. Nice find Derek.
That radiator hose blows out you're going to know what hell feels like.
Nothing like a nice warm coolant shower
Duct tape will ensure that never happens
My dad had one of four gas stations near a highway exit. The one directly across was up against a cemetery. I saw one guy eat a face full while checking a customer radiator. Before anyone got to him, he had run into and back out of that cemetery. He was fine, but that was a creepy few seconds.
Excellent
That sweet sweet slippery hot stuff is wonderful for deep exfoliating
New to the channel and I thought was a brilliant funny channel. After watching this I also realised what a fantastic mechanic you are and you’re explanation of spark plugs was brilliant.
When it comes to small block ford's most after market RV or performance cams use the 351Windsor fireing order
I raced Arctic Cats in the same time period. I was an independent but I knew Carmen to talk to in the pits. He was quite a guy. There was nothing about snowmobiles and especially fast snowmobiles he did not know. That was not the only V8 powered dual track sled by a long shot, there were many that would run on Lake George for record runs. I never saw that one on the lake though. I also notice there are no studs in the tracks so I can be pretty sure it was still in development.
Love you addressed the reading of the plugs. I always try to look them over good. Ive heard instructors say it’s not worth learning, i agree with you 100%
I really appreciated the talk about plugs and reading them. As a 2-cycle fan, I can tell you it's important! This was some really useful and pertinent info for everyone.
You hit the nail on the head by covering reading plugs and points! I'm going on 40 and that's how I was raised!
You"re the man. Finally got Lightning and thunder. Great video.
Thanks
Derek I don't comment much on your videos but I enjoy them all. The wholesomeness with your interactions with friends and family, the Patriotic theme throughout, and the humor barely hiding your obvious experience and intelligence, this is my favorite show. And I listen to a lot, 47 year old trucker in Indiana. This shade tree mechanic knowledge is invaluable when working with older units. Although you're probably about my age this the type of knowledge I wish I would have learned from my dad, instead of having to figure it all out myself. I appreciate you man, keep doing what you're doing! 👍👍
As a Journeyman Motorcycle Mechanic since 1986 and a Ford guy, I cannot wait for your next post. Your description on how the electrical and mechanical systems work is great. Have a fantastic day from Alberta
Well I'll be dipped. I'm almost 65 years old, and that was the BEST shop class I EVER attended. Moses' sandals....
Thanks Douglas!
@@ViceGripGarage I'm almost 72 years old. I'm with Douglas.
@@billstephens6557 is this THE mecum auctions bill stephens?
I would pay to see it ride on the snow that thing is awesome
That's a snow lam bor geenee.. make that a GT40
Thank you for not swearing in your episodes. I love that I can feel confident sharing your channel with young people, I really enjoy your projects and have learned many things from you.
hell man,,how do you expect young people to grow up if they dont swear. ??..damn it..
I just want to also thank him for this. I worked in a shop for years, and I've never seen a mechanic that can do his job without gratuitous swearing. I am not one of them.
Best explanation of how an ignition coil works, particularly in how it interacts with the distributor that I have seen.
2 yrs too late.... but I remember that pactular sled. I'm an Artic Cat (El Tigre was my cat of choice) guy.
I remember reading about this machine back in the 70s.
Too cool!
“If were gonna have a failure itll be somewhere around here” *points at entire drivetrain* lmao
You should get a Vice Grip Garage museum where we can go and see you projects
Someday
Word!
@@ViceGripGarage a guy can be a caretaker if needed. 💯😉
I would pay to go to a Vice Grip Garage Museum. A feller would see things that bottle the mind.....
@@dukeofearl6256 boggle
This the only guy that can give Ave a run for his money in the vocabularyisms department
They may be cousins...we need a crossover episode fir sure one day
More Rickyisms than Trailer Park Boys.
Ave......many peoples favorite dude on RUclips !!!!!!!!!!
Its got more holes in it that bonny and clyde .
No way. @1puglife is the king.
I'll be dipped!!! I went through 62 years of my life not knowing much about internal combustion engine, nor I cared. Then I found this fella. about a month or so ago. Now i sit and watch everything you post on RUclips. The phrases and demeanor of the guy gets me cracking all the time. Just a reminder: Don't ever try to throw a rock at Cananada again. :)))))))))))
“ I’m gonna do the right thing and pretend I didn’t see that.” This needs to be on a t-shirt!
Id buy it😂
shut up an take my money!
Or a monument in Washington,DC
I totally agree.. I’d buy it
A little mystery down the carb .
Man VGG consistently has such a great comment section, it’s like I’m not even on RUclips anymore.
Just a bunch of like minded folks bud... isn’t a guy in this comment section I wouldn’t buy a cold snack
@@countryboy44555 I’ll be dipped! What time shall we meet up, friend?
@@528Circle whenever the damn bars open back up again!
@@countryboy44555 excellent point! Until then, I will join you in a remote cold
Snack!
So true! I haven’t really thought about it before but you’re right. The VGG comment section is very wholesome!
The chain setup off the tailshaft is made of the 2 drive chains from the 72 panthers..... AMAZING! I recovnize them from the 4 or 5 panthers of that era i have owned in the past few years, unmistakable.
Other than your absolute rediculas humor which I love.The best part of your videos is when you bring your family along and the way you always honor the history of these machines and the vets.Keep up the good work
That's awesome man a guy might think he was looking at the batman snowmobile sweeeeet video 👍👍
My thoughts exactly
Should call it the "ARCTIC BAT"🤙
@@coryernewein man thats an awesome name for the sled ha ha 👍
@BKNY FINEST ha ha have some cold snacks 🍺
Hey Derek, the actual term is "Pin the ears down". Ever drive a Model T with the original drive train. The 'ears' were the throttle (right side lever) and the spark advance (left side levet). These levers were on each side of the steering column.
I figure you have driven a T but thought I might confuse others on the Model T controls.
Its good to see "Red Green" back in good humor. Just love what you have to offer, KEEP IT UP!!!
Thank you Roger
Have you seen Mighty Mouses boat anywhere? The little prick must be hiding...
Exactly what I think every time I watch a video. We sure Derek is really his name. Maybe. Yeah. Nope.
Love your show and your Ave like vocabulisims. One point of erection though. The primary on a coil is the low voly side. The secondary is the sparky side. 1.6 oooms is very good on the primary. You want the ration betwixt the secondary and primary to be hi. The hi'r the ratio, the more pixies you'll have.
The stuff you drag to the shop always amazes me. You have some of the best content and are always amusing and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for sharing your adventures. Peace
Thank you Dave
Informative Derek! Always learn something new! Thank you for explaining in layman terms! And I have Fords.....! Looking forward to the next video on this! Interesting snow mobile! Sad the owner isn't around...would be fun to pick his brain about this!
Thank you for going in depth on the edu-ma-cation! I don't do a lot of wrenching but it's really good to learn that stuff, especially how to read a sparkalator.
Derek and VGG is hands down RUclips's Greatest automotive channel ever!!!
So cool! My favourite part is your respect for the mans hard work!
I dont know where a guy finds these things, but I'm glad out of all the people in the world, you found it!
When are we going to see it on the snow?
most people would think its scrap but not us
Truth!
WOWWW🤣
50:21 Oh my goodness!! The 2bbl Autolite STILL has the the tag so that if a guy needs to get a carb kit it will not be too hard! I really enjoyed your explanation of the sparkalators. You are quite brilliant. Best to all. :)
I'm not really interested in snowmobiles but I'm addicted to this channel. So I'm watching. Had to hit the like button during the spark plug lesson. Great content!
I really appreciate your heartfelt interest and sincerity about the history of the vehicles you work on. It's great to remember the people that put their heart and soul into a project. Memorializing them is wonderful and makes me know you're a good guy.
Thanks
Wow! What a trip down memory lane for me. My brothers raced Cats in the late 60's - early 70's. I remember when Cat brought out the custom "Boss Cat's" for attempts at speed records. They succeeded in setting a few records but the records didn't stand very long as technology allowed more traditional styled sleds with bigger/better snowmobile engines to break the "Boss Cat's" speed records. If I remember correctly a 800 cc Hirth powered King Cat was almost as fast directly from the factory. Great video.
Well I just can’t believe it.. I guess I have to because I’m looking right at it!
This was read in Derek's voice lol
Best, easiest and simplest explanation of the electrical circuit I have heard. 👍🏼
love these garage built one offs. Takes me back about 50 years when I had access to a welding rig, a junk yard, and my uncles cast off 63 Falcon Sprint....😎👍👍
Best there is on utube.
thank you
My favorite RIGHT NOW as well.
A guy does a great great job
Love it how you make working on old engines as enjoyable to watch as it is to actually tinkering on them myself. spraying the oiled up motion lotion to bring some fire down... loving em!
I learned to read spark plugs years ago. But you are right people don't seem to know how to do any of these things anymore. I really enjoy your content, keep it up.
The show is more therapeutic then listening and paying my therapist. THANK YOU.
Note:There is just a wee space to make Therapist into The Rapist.
Honestly, one of my favorite new (to me) channels on YT. Derek's delivery and content is so engaging. Keep 'em comin'!
He has a tv show to on the motor trend ch called roadworthy rescue
This is an amazing piece of history. Love what you do just keep it coming.
I grew up in Wyoming and they had a wild west winter carnival and there was tons of machine like that even budweiser had one. They drag raced them. Brings back great memories
Cool
Very cool. I can't believe that was a whole hour.
Time flies when yer havin fun.
Love the channel, very funny...the transmission in this particular race sled build is an FMX, not a C4. The vacuum modulator is on the back right corner of the transmission on a C4.
When I saw that first puff of smoke, even before it fired, boy did I get excited... wow!
Ironic really, #2 was the first to show signs of life yet it settled down to a steady miss once the other 7 woke up :/
Excellent quick tutorial on spark plug heat range, the effects of mistakes, and the ways to determine the correct plug.
I just love the sound of an unfettered V8. What a beast. Great vid.
I'm so damn excited to see this drive!!!! On the third episode I say we just go on ahead and throw a supercharger on it simply for more smiles
Pull it off the corvette, a guy thinks it will fit fine.
I like your way of thinking
Well, if the intake is original to the block, it is can only be a 260 or 289. 302, while in the same engine family, was introduced in '68 model cars. :) Love the channel, Derek. One of my new favorites!
Look on the Block below the exhaust manifold. That's a favorite spot for the casting numbers. ALSO the numbers aren't always in the same place because they used so many different foundries for their blocks. They didn't have dedicated foundries for each block until the early 70's.
This was awesome, glad you care enough about the history to buy and document this
"Keeping the cost down lower than Chris Gaines album sales" got a snort laugh outta me... what was the guy thinking!
oddly enough, those few songs he released have been covered by many others, multiple times and did better. even though none topped the charts, many people still liked it ;)
more or less the whole RIAA and most listeners are just clowns
@@throttlebottle5906 how many bought the album just because it was Garth though?
Nick W., same response here! Who doesn't remember thinking, "what is Garth smoking these days?" Shania came up with a much better plan to break into mainstream pop. Poor Garth. He was like Betamax, while Shania was VHS.
After the whole burn injury at Cleeter's event, should consider the location of some of that cooling system.
I was going to say the same thing.
@@RearEngineShop safety first
@@hotmiramichi or 2nd lol.........
Yup
My thoughts as well!
Born in 66 that's old crazy ideas speed !! That video was awesome!! OLD stuff will live on !! Thank you for taking the time to get her running vroom vroom!! I'm sure you will!! STAY SAFE OUT THERE BROTHER !! And get her fired up on 8 cylinder!! OLD school!! That was awsome!!
Derek messaging seller on craigslist: What the hell is it? You dont know? Ill take it!
Thanks for the info on reading spark plugs! I've always been interested in that.
Most northern Midwest thing I’ve ever seen. Maybe someday you could bring it to DL for our sled drag racing, that would be awesome!
Sure would be
On Ford small blocks, supposedly starting in 68 (not 100% sure on that) they should have a partial VIN stamped into the block on the flat pad just behind the intake manifold. The first digit/letter is the year of what it's out of. Good job going through part numbers, etc to help ID the year of the engine and what it's out of.
this thing is really cool. i imagine it is a beast on the snow as well. impressed by the time and fabrication that was put into it.
Thank you for explaining things in a way that's easily understandable. Keep up the good work!
Thanks 👍
looks like this thing coming straight out of the Mad Max alternate snow apocalypse
Fun fact: it's 2021.. time to get your mad max rigs ready
snowpocalypse......get it right
I would DEFINITELY watch that movie!
Congrats. Great find, Derek... and excellent commentary, as always! A guy bought a 1950 Ford pu hot rod back in the 80's, had a 302 with a 4-speed Muncie dropped in, wouldn't go past 25 mph, so the feller that built it sold it cheap...saw it in the paper and bought it for 2500.00. Talked to some fellow hot rodders and the problem was it had no ballast resister. Who woulda thought it? Put one in and man oh man, it was a fast, sweet ride.
“Nope, maybe, probably not!”
T-shirt that !!!
A guy definitely needs tshirts with Derek-isms
"Didn't see that"
Great Job!! You brought back memories of my younger age of automobile troubleshooting, I am really glad that guys like us still remember old school engines.
When you noticed the loose u-joint underneath it seems you missed seeing that it was sitting on the battery tray.
I'm 27 and read plugs for detonation, and timing. I would like to learn more and appreciate the small tidbits you drop in your videos. Wish a guy had a fella like you around when I was a youngin. Self taught here with the help of the interwebs
Man the 70’s were wild, radiator, fuel tank and battery surrounding the cockpit...great video Derek
This is the most badass machine I've ever laid eyes on. I cant wait to see it rippin man. Love your videos. Keep up the good work
One man I can watch for hours and not hesitate to skip not one bit
Me and my 11yr old son and 6yr old daughter luv watching ur channel. Wether we’re turning wrenches 🔧 on the dirt bikes, my work equipment or cars- we always have your videos playing on the shop tv while working. You help phrase things and sometimes give other ideas and ways to check things. As there’s usually more than 1 way to do something. And I don’t have to worry about what you’re showing or going to say. Clean knowledge and fun for the whole family. 🤘🏼😎 keep on turning wrenches and teaching the youth. A lot of simple knowledge and hand work is no longer being done by the youth, gadgets and games seem to be more important to most youngsters. My sons friends always talk about games, while my son invited them over to check out the dirt bike motor rebuild we did and turns laps around the track in my backyard.
Sand rail + snowmobile + drag boat V-drive + a touch of Mad Max = this absolute unit.
Absolutely brilliant content! An hour seemed to go by in 10 minutes.
Thanks for doing this for free 👍👍
"Just got done putting the negative cable on, why are you always so sad". That was classic 😂
I know, the inflection he put on *negative* was so frickin hilarious hahahaha
I didn't get the joke the first time I watched. But after watching again today I had quite a long laugh.
@@Joseph-C )o
You can get water in from corrosion from the intake manifold or bad intake gaskets.
Also you should add that only point distributors use ballast resistors to reduce the power (amperage), if you change to electronic dizy you can't run a resistor or it won't run right.
They reduce the amperage thus reducing heat so your coil and points last longer, but electronic dizys need a higher amperage so if you leave it in you won't get enough power (weak spark).
"Lower than Chris Gains album sales" I spit my coffee out on that one.
funny!
VGG: "I don't know much about Ford engines."
Also VGG: "Let me drop some Ford knowledge on you for every aspect of every Ford engine ever created."
How much is there to know if you're familiar with any other brand of 4-stroke gasoline engine ever built for any purpose whatsoever? They all work the same way.
Unless it's a four stroke Diesel. Because it's possible to run one off gasoline. Or pretty much any other combustable liquid. Run time variable. Also you can fit spark plugs. Making it depend less on compression, and more on ignition.
@@devilsoffspring5519 Really, and My Father was a Parts Mgr for GM for 45 Years, the One thing that I caught Hell for was "ATS"....All the Same, you've got lots to LEARN!!!
@@devilsoffspring5519 yeah exactly.. I'm putting a rotor in my Cleveland
@@dacarvoid45 yeah nah
I don’t know about the intake but my guess was he used a 66 mustang from the radiator and shifter that it has in it
That trans isn't from a mustang but I'm with you on the shifter and rad. I was guessing ford pu motor pre 1972 .hoping for engine casting numbers before video ends
@@inmate666 it’s a plain c4 why do you say it’s not from a mustang specifically?
@@lucasswearingen377 I thought it was a fmx with the cast iron center section. I might be wrong. I'd have to go watch again. A 6 bolt c4 could definitely be a mustang trans.my bad ...maybe
I’m with you 66 mustang. Awkward to push the T Bar release button with your left pinky!
@@lucasswearingen377 it is an fmx not a c4. Cast iron center section and dip stick in the side of the pan .
I was just looking back at some snowmobile videos and found this. I remember many years ago a similar one of a kind sled built buy RUPP that was quite popular. It was my understanding they actualy took the thing to many snowmobile events and ran it. It was quite a good looking red beast.
I love this contraption ! What a marvel of engineering ! Can't wait to see her throwing rooster tails out in the white stuff !
52:06 Yeah, I was thinking that from the very beginning. Standing next to a straight piped V8 in an enclosed space.
Just imagine how the creator of this is looking from far above and just thinking: "yeah my rig is in good hands"
Felt same way
@@keithyoung7640 So true if you think about it! Like an unfinished piece of art in the hands of a modern day Picasso!lol
That's wild! We sled up here in Idaho but we like to play in the steep & deep areas. Avalanches are a concern so most wild riders have AVE packs, rescue beacons & dig out gear. Like concrete to dig someone out.