this is amazing also thanks for not making evan seem like bad person for not forgiving his tormenter nowadays almost everyone assume evan the bad person if he doesn't forgive mikey like if someone made your life hell when you were alive and killed you on your birthday I wouldn't want be friendly with them either
He is a bad person tho? You cant be serious right? It doesnt matter if cc got killed by mike If mike literally dedicated his entire life to fixing his mistakes Worked at every location, threw away the chance of a proper family Fixed all of williams mistakes, tried to free everyone and did this for a course of 30+ years just to redeem himself And cc still tries to torment him after this HE is the bad guy, he doesnt need to outright forgive him no but him making mike feel regret literally doesnt do anything MIKE HAS FELT regret for the past 30 years about everything which is why he did the things he did The entire point of fnaf 1 to 6 is to show mike and willians arc and cassidys Cassidy and william are opposites yet the same Mike is fixing williams mistakes and redeeming himself ad they go on.
@@AtifaKhanNY he doesnt only regret it he literally wasted his ENTIRE life to do it and no i am not justifying michaels actions you clearly dont understand my comment on any level michaels actions were horrible but he redeemed himself I am not saying evan has to instantly forgive him but if he wants to torture michael and stuff like that, that makes EVAN the bad guy not michael, you can't torture someone who devoted their entire life to repenting thats just you being a dick. also dont wanna bring up canon into this but its totally not in character for Evan to be so vengeful, the crying child as a character is weak, defenseless and caring, he wouldn't go out of his way to hate michael in a similar manner to lets say how TOYSHK (the vengeful spirit/cassidy) would hate william. thats just me tho
@@runin12 Uh, so,you just brought up canon and didn't even get it right at all. 1. In what way does a spirit's ability to be vengeful have to do with how they acted while alive? That makes 0 sense and it is basically confirmed by the Stitchwraith books that it has to do with how much agony a spirit has. Spoiler for the books below. Andrew, the OG vengeful spirit that inspired most Cassidy and GoldenDuo theories, is the living, or in this case dead, proof of how being a vengeful spirit works. He said for himself that his agony was so powerful that he was corrupting objects and killing people accidentally based solely on how much he hates William Afton. Clearly having too much agony corrupts a spirit and causes them to hate more than the others who don't have as much and gives them more power as well. Andrew had so much agony that he was blinded by it, and it was only after Jake pulled him into one of his good remnant memories that Andrew was able to be freed. So yeah, idk about you, but if I spent most of my childhood being tormented by my older brother and his friends, neglected, locked in my room, scared 24/7, having endless nightmares, not feeling remotely safe in my own home, highly implied to have seen my sister die, and more, I'd be pretty damn filled with agony. Given these points and the fact that everyone uses mostly things and rules from the story of the Stitchwraith to fuel 90% of Cassidy/C.C/TOYSHNK/GoldenDuo theories, C.C sure as hell could end up vengeful based on what he went through. 2. In what world does a victim of abuse have to be nice to their abuser regardless of how much time has passed? So basically what you are saying is that C.C should now give a sht about Michael's feelings when Michael didn't give any about his own before. Michael had his fun ruining C.C's life despite how much C.C probably begged him to stop, but the moment Michael starts crying about it and asking for forgiveness C.C just has to kiss and make up when he didn't do anything to deserve how badly Michael had treated him. You seem to be forgetting that while C.C did absolutely nothing to make Michael be an azz to him, Michael did everything that made C.C hate him. If C.C wants to dislike Michael for the rest if his life he is in his right to do so and Michael should just accept that as the consequences for his actions and move on. Like, Michael basically faced no punishment for killing C.C and No, him dying wasn't a punishment for C.C's death nor does it have anything to do with what happened between him and C.C. idk why people act like the stuff Michael went through was karma for C.C when the dude literally put himself in all those situations willingly. He went to all the establishments willing knowing he could and probably would die. That isn't someone being punished for sht, he is doing these things independently to stop William, not out of guilt for C.C. Maybe C.C's death is what made Michael want to be a better person, but none of what he did was FOR C.C specifically. 3. Another argument for canon since you want to go there. As far as canon shows us, what reason does C.C have to care about Michael? As far as we know, Michael was never nice to C.C and they never developed any form of brotherly bond, so why exactly does C.C need to care about Michael now when he probably never got to even begin liking him in the past. They never had a good relationship, and even if Michael wants one now, C.C doesn't have to want one with Michael. Basically, by your logic, someone should be forced to be nice to a person who they never liked just because everyone will judge them and victim blame saying they can't move on from the past if they don't be nice to their literal abuser and murderer. So guess if someone killed your whole family and you are forced to live with them you'll eventually just hug them and be friends, is that it? Yeaaah, no, C.C and Michael canonically never seemed to have a good relationship, which was entirely Michael's fault, and to blame C.C for not wanting to have a relationship with Michael now is bull. Michael had a chance to have a good relationship with his brother and he blew it, it is not C.C's responsibility to make Michael feel better about what he did as the victim that Michael tortured. Like bro again, imagine someone kills you or your family and you go find them in prison to comfort them and tell them not to feel bad about it just because they feel sorry and started crying. Guess anyone who murders someone just has to do a few good deeds and say I'm sorry a couple times and poof, all is forgive. Let that bad guy out of prison, clearly if they are crying that much about it and donated to some charities they have become a much better person that deserves everyone's forgiveness, even if they did kill their brother and commit multiple cases of arson. Someone who abused a child in the past can change and become a good person, sure, but the child they abused does not have to care or be around that person. That child is not forced to come back years later and tell that abuser that they are forgiven to comfort the abuser. Btw, I love Michael, he is one of my fav FNAF characters, but I'm not going to be bias and claim C.C should forgive him and be nice to him just because I think it would be nice for them to get along. I mean, it is easy for us to look at fictional characters and say, "Oh so what if he killed you, forgive him. It happened 1000+ years ago." But in real life if someone killed a person and the ghost of said person came back and started being friends with their murderer, we would all call it insanity, not just because it is a ghost, but like, who the hell would become friends with the person who tortured and killed them exactly? Like wtf is this Stockholm syndrome esque bull of forgiving and loving your damn abuser? 😅 Anyways, call me a hypocrite since my AU has C.C not even hating Michael while Michael thinks he does because C.C doesn't talk to him. But bottomline is, it is entirely realistic for C.C to not like Michael given their history. If he does forgive him eventually, fine, but if he never does, it do not make C.C the bad guy. He is in his right to dislike Michael and not want to speak with him.
@@JAUBAnimated so cc isnt an vengeful spirit and even in this hypothetical even as a vengeful spirit you can still control your anger Cassidy or whoever toyshk is just stubborn whats your point?
@@JAUBAnimated and again the books are irrelevant they arent tied to the games, i dont care if you believe in stichline games or whatever but again that doesnt mean that its what happens in the games
i’m not even gonna lie when mikoal thought “he hates me? what did i do wrong?” i straight up snickered, like…does my guy have memory loss?? you ended a little kids life, you think he ISN’T going to hate you?
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this is amazing also thanks for not making evan seem like bad person for not forgiving his tormenter nowadays almost everyone assume evan the bad person if he doesn't forgive mikey like if someone made your life hell when you were alive and killed you on your birthday I wouldn't want be friendly with them either
He is a bad person tho?
You cant be serious right?
It doesnt matter if cc got killed by mike
If mike literally dedicated his entire life to fixing his mistakes
Worked at every location, threw away the chance of a proper family
Fixed all of williams mistakes, tried to free everyone and did this for a course of 30+ years just to redeem himself
And cc still tries to torment him after this HE is the bad guy, he doesnt need to outright forgive him no but him making mike feel regret literally doesnt do anything MIKE HAS FELT regret for the past 30 years about everything which is why he did the things he did
The entire point of fnaf 1 to 6 is to show mike and willians arc and cassidys
Cassidy and william are opposites yet the same
Mike is fixing williams mistakes and redeeming himself ad they go on.
@@AtifaKhanNY he doesnt only regret it he literally wasted his ENTIRE life to do it and no i am not justifying michaels actions you clearly dont understand my comment on any level michaels actions were horrible but he redeemed himself
I am not saying evan has to instantly forgive him but if he wants to torture michael and stuff like that, that makes EVAN the bad guy not michael, you can't torture someone who devoted their entire life to repenting thats just you being a dick.
also dont wanna bring up canon into this but its totally not in character for Evan to be so vengeful, the crying child as a character is weak, defenseless and caring, he wouldn't go out of his way to hate michael in a similar manner to lets say how TOYSHK (the vengeful spirit/cassidy) would hate william. thats just me tho
@@runin12 Uh, so,you just brought up canon and didn't even get it right at all.
1. In what way does a spirit's ability to be vengeful have to do with how they acted while alive? That makes 0 sense and it is basically confirmed by the Stitchwraith books that it has to do with how much agony a spirit has.
Spoiler for the books below.
Andrew, the OG vengeful spirit that inspired most Cassidy and GoldenDuo theories, is the living, or in this case dead, proof of how being a vengeful spirit works. He said for himself that his agony was so powerful that he was corrupting objects and killing people accidentally based solely on how much he hates William Afton. Clearly having too much agony corrupts a spirit and causes them to hate more than the others who don't have as much and gives them more power as well. Andrew had so much agony that he was blinded by it, and it was only after Jake pulled him into one of his good remnant memories that Andrew was able to be freed.
So yeah, idk about you, but if I spent most of my childhood being tormented by my older brother and his friends, neglected, locked in my room, scared 24/7, having endless nightmares, not feeling remotely safe in my own home, highly implied to have seen my sister die, and more, I'd be pretty damn filled with agony.
Given these points and the fact that everyone uses mostly things and rules from the story of the Stitchwraith to fuel 90% of Cassidy/C.C/TOYSHNK/GoldenDuo theories, C.C sure as hell could end up vengeful based on what he went through.
2. In what world does a victim of abuse have to be nice to their abuser regardless of how much time has passed? So basically what you are saying is that C.C should now give a sht about Michael's feelings when Michael didn't give any about his own before. Michael had his fun ruining C.C's life despite how much C.C probably begged him to stop, but the moment Michael starts crying about it and asking for forgiveness C.C just has to kiss and make up when he didn't do anything to deserve how badly Michael had treated him. You seem to be forgetting that while C.C did absolutely nothing to make Michael be an azz to him, Michael did everything that made C.C hate him. If C.C wants to dislike Michael for the rest if his life he is in his right to do so and Michael should just accept that as the consequences for his actions and move on. Like, Michael basically faced no punishment for killing C.C and No, him dying wasn't a punishment for C.C's death nor does it have anything to do with what happened between him and C.C. idk why people act like the stuff Michael went through was karma for C.C when the dude literally put himself in all those situations willingly. He went to all the establishments willing knowing he could and probably would die. That isn't someone being punished for sht, he is doing these things independently to stop William, not out of guilt for C.C. Maybe C.C's death is what made Michael want to be a better person, but none of what he did was FOR C.C specifically.
3. Another argument for canon since you want to go there. As far as canon shows us, what reason does C.C have to care about Michael? As far as we know, Michael was never nice to C.C and they never developed any form of brotherly bond, so why exactly does C.C need to care about Michael now when he probably never got to even begin liking him in the past. They never had a good relationship, and even if Michael wants one now, C.C doesn't have to want one with Michael. Basically, by your logic, someone should be forced to be nice to a person who they never liked just because everyone will judge them and victim blame saying they can't move on from the past if they don't be nice to their literal abuser and murderer. So guess if someone killed your whole family and you are forced to live with them you'll eventually just hug them and be friends, is that it?
Yeaaah, no, C.C and Michael canonically never seemed to have a good relationship, which was entirely Michael's fault, and to blame C.C for not wanting to have a relationship with Michael now is bull. Michael had a chance to have a good relationship with his brother and he blew it, it is not C.C's responsibility to make Michael feel better about what he did as the victim that Michael tortured. Like bro again, imagine someone kills you or your family and you go find them in prison to comfort them and tell them not to feel bad about it just because they feel sorry and started crying. Guess anyone who murders someone just has to do a few good deeds and say I'm sorry a couple times and poof, all is forgive. Let that bad guy out of prison, clearly if they are crying that much about it and donated to some charities they have become a much better person that deserves everyone's forgiveness, even if they did kill their brother and commit multiple cases of arson.
Someone who abused a child in the past can change and become a good person, sure, but the child they abused does not have to care or be around that person. That child is not forced to come back years later and tell that abuser that they are forgiven to comfort the abuser.
Btw, I love Michael, he is one of my fav FNAF characters, but I'm not going to be bias and claim C.C should forgive him and be nice to him just because I think it would be nice for them to get along. I mean, it is easy for us to look at fictional characters and say, "Oh so what if he killed you, forgive him. It happened 1000+ years ago." But in real life if someone killed a person and the ghost of said person came back and started being friends with their murderer, we would all call it insanity, not just because it is a ghost, but like, who the hell would become friends with the person who tortured and killed them exactly? Like wtf is this Stockholm syndrome esque bull of forgiving and loving your damn abuser? 😅
Anyways, call me a hypocrite since my AU has C.C not even hating Michael while Michael thinks he does because C.C doesn't talk to him. But bottomline is, it is entirely realistic for C.C to not like Michael given their history. If he does forgive him eventually, fine, but if he never does, it do not make C.C the bad guy. He is in his right to dislike Michael and not want to speak with him.
@@JAUBAnimated so cc isnt an vengeful spirit and even in this hypothetical even as a vengeful spirit you can still control your anger Cassidy or whoever toyshk is just stubborn whats your point?
@@JAUBAnimated and again the books are irrelevant they arent tied to the games, i dont care if you believe in stichline games or whatever but again that doesnt mean that its what happens in the games
i’m not even gonna lie when mikoal thought “he hates me? what did i do wrong?” i straight up snickered, like…does my guy have memory loss?? you ended a little kids life, you think he ISN’T going to hate you?
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