I think people complaining about the season were hoping for the show to resolve all the loose threads from the second season. Carmys clearly regressing, Sydney is experiencing alot of unvoiced trauma, Richie has bettered himself as a man but is dealing with lonliness. And I don't think people are used to media where characters path to self-actualization isn't straight forward.
This imo was the best season but like you said I think the 'majority of people' wanted everything resolved. The problem is the normalcy of instant gratification.
For this episode, to basically be entirely in one room, to drive that much emotion, with only 2 people, shows how amazing the scene works were. Jaime Lee and Abby absolutely ate. 👏🏼
This episode is one of those episodes of television that I will never ever forget. Just a piece of art. The way I sobbed the first time I watched it and then sobbed again watching this reaction!
It will be a travesty if Abby Elliott doesn't at the very least get an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Supporting Actress for her performance in this episode.
For real, I was legit about to comment this. I was outside in the backyard watching this...leaves on the ground, sun shining, wind blowing. And I couldn't stop myself from crying. This episode was so emotional and beautiful and powerful. Loved it.
This was my favourite episode of the season. One of the biggest takeaways for me is that if Donna, the person that has probably caused the most damage in her children's life, is actually willing to work on herself and try to be better, then there is hope for Carmy to do the same. I think there's a reason that Carmy is so heavily fixated on the Chef that tormented him and was abusive and made Carmy feel like he wasn't good enough. It mimics Carmy's relationship with his mom, where she probably never made him feel good enough and so he has this overwhelming drive to be perfect and is never satisfied. If Carmy wants to truly get better, he isn't going to need to just deal with the PTSD from his experience with the abusive Chef, he will also need to deal with his relationship with his mom and the whole family dynamic he grew up with. I REALLY hope we get a fantastic moment between Donna and Carmy before the series ends.
I think this season is good. I think the people who don't care for this season or who say it is too slow are people who are more invested in the restaurant storylines and not as interested in a deeper dive on the background of the characters. I get that but I think this is time well spent. This is quality acting and writing and in the long run it will pay off. Its not like they are recycling the same terrain the way some shows do to try to drag it out. I also agree that this episode is likely more impactful for women who watch it than men, although I thought it was a good episode and really like Abby as an actor and love her character and Jamie Lee Curtis has always been a real talent.
Excellent take. The show is not really about a restaurant, it's about the interpersonal relationships of the people who work in the restaurant and all of their emotional struggles coming to grips with some pretty heavy life experiences.
my mother is a midwife and from what she's told me this episode is pretty accurate, not just medically but she's seen dynamics like this between family A LOT. plus you guys are totally right, all fours and in a squat is a much better way and at least here in the uk most births are now done that way, thank god.
Best episode of season 3. My ex said no to the epidural shot initially. Only to change her mind when the pain started to really ramp up. I bet that happens more often than not. Also, they numb the area first where the needle goes. But I totally get the fear.
18:35 look at this show: how incredible. The long super close ups. The long pauses. The real talk. The warning sounds that a contraction is coming. So amazing.
Some of those just silent emotional looks between those two actresses, were just amazing. I loved this season. There are some fantastic artistic chances they took with ep 1 & 2 that were great. And this one is probably my favorite of the season. The acting and writing was just perfect.
I've been waiting for you to react to this episode. I knew that you'd cry as hard as I did, but at least with your reaction I didn't feel like I was crying alone. Thanks for that.
The complaints about the season were more about it as a whole rather than problems with individual episodes. The quality of the show is as high as ever. People just felt like it didn't move forward enough, like the situations the characters find themselves in are very similar to how we left them in the season 2 finale, not enough got resolved for it to feel satisfying.
But see the problem is that’s not how life works. Sometimes you don’t get the resolution and forward progress that you want. Life is hills and valleys that’s what the show is representing.
@@alexis45jones I enjoyed the season myself and I'm not saying the way it's written isn't realistic. Just that some people found it unsatisfying because of the lack of progress with most characters. I imagine if we had season 4 available right away there would be no complaints.
Two opening scenes in the car and the parking lot. Two closing scenes in the hallway and waiting room. Other than those and a shot or two of a nurse, this entire episode consists entirely of a two shot and close ups of these two incredible actresses. Abby Elliott and JLC with Emmy worthy performances. Masterful. Everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion, but I just can’t fathom not liking this season, I thought the whole thing was as brilliant as ever. Great reaction! Also, not saying anything y’all don’t know, but as a non-American, the cost of ambulances/general health care in the US is so infuriating and heartbreaking :( lol, great Mean Girls reference, Arianna 😆
I would still consider this the weakest season in terms of my own preference (2>1>3) but agreed on how can people possibly call it weak. 3x01, 3x06 and 3x08 are all like top5/10 episode contenders
@@monfernova I think I pretty much feel the same way about all of this! For me it’s like: 1. Season 2 2a. Season 1 2b. Season 3 i.e. Season 1 has the slight edge but season 3 is very close. That’s not to say Season 2 is leaps and bounds above the other two, but it’s my clear favourite. Those 3 episodes in S03 are among my favourites in the whole series as well. For me, Fishes and Forks are on another level, but then I’d group those 3 episodes with several others from S01 and S02 as the best of the rest
you guys are so real. i cried just as hard when i saw this episode. i agree with everything you discussed at the end too. i think casual viewers just didn’t vibe with this season which is fine, but the amount of hate it got was a little ridiculous. kind of a disservice to how amazing this show is. there’s a lot of shows out there, but not all of them have heart like the bear. you can feel it in the writing, acting, characters, just everything.
All I know is that this show and yes even this episode has hit me in my emotions hard and it's not fair. Now I have resurfaced/unresolved trauma I gotta deal with and I'm stuck waiting for another season... I need my get back!!
Speaking of pain tolerance: without any need of rating or comparing, a birth is one of the hardest things on the human body. It lasts for too damn long, and it hurts as much as the next worst thing. Rawdogging it is not a flex and there's no shame in taking pain relief.
Unbelievable that the Midnight Boys hated this episode. And for the season, I think a lot of people just wanted, restaurant, restaurant, restaurant, no Claire, and ship Carm and Syd.
Absolutely beautiful and emotional. The journey and growth of characters I enjoyed this season and this episode was easily the highlight. How everything wraps up for season 3, not my cup of tea.
It's wild that people didn't like this season. The whole show is incredible and season three is absolutely up there with all the rest, which is a mile ahead of most of the garbage TV out there.
The best thing about skipping the epidural is that once the baby is out, the pain is over. Epidurals stay with you after the birth...the numbness, the (sometimes) spinal headaches, risk of paralysis... That said, pitocin makes the contractions SO. MUCH. MORE. PAINFUL. Pit makes early labor feel like transition. I don't begrudge anyone their epidural. You gotta have a plan (and hopefully a doula) if you want to deliver naturally in the hospital.
Season 3 is really short, there could have been longer episodes. I liked it. I tried to have my other family members watch this show but they got a headache with the shaky camera and quick cuts.
People are disappointed because of the major dip in form. The Claire Bear arc killed it. She popped up randomly, and everything got much worse because of it. A large part is the fact she was never mentioned in season 1; this is what did the character in. We spent the whole season metaphorically trapped in the walk-in. For nothing. The first episode was an hour long food montage and it was hilarious watching reactors react like me: 'it's over already? there was no story really, but it was beautiful and this The Bear so we'll say it is amazing art'. We were being finessed and it continued all season. I'm vexed.
What is with the ambulance hate. Ambulance prices are set by the state. Medicare and Medicaid, the primary insurance of most ambulance patients, only pays a fraction of the cost they are allowed to charge. It's not the fault of the ambulance service that the US has such a shitty insurance system that allows insurance companies to choose what to deny rather than paying. Ambulance service, for the moment, can only charge if the patient is transported so Mabel's plan to call an ambulance to deliver her baby and then refuse transport is wrong for so many reasons. First it potentially endangers the lives of the mother and child and secondly the ambulance service has to eat the cost of all the supplies used and the salary for the EMTs. Which is one of the reasons why ambulance services cost so much. Even when ambulance services are municipality based that municipality bills for ambulance services because it would be fiscally irresponsible not to. People hate paying for a life saving service for some reason but have no problem with paying $300 for their doctor to stick their head in their hospital room and chat them up for 2 mins. Granted many many people call an ambulance for stupid stuff that doesn't require an ambulance. I've gone to calls for nightmares and a literal scratch from their cat basically across the street from the hospital.
@MapleDivine Not a bot. Just a paramedic and former Chief of an ambulance service trying to educate people that don't understand how ambulance services work. Love your content btw.
“but have no problem paying $300 for their doctor” idk about you chief but the doctors here in texas were trying to charge me $1000 for just seeing me.. so yeah people definitely have problems paying for doctors as well as emergency services lmao
So glad that in the UK I can call an ambulance for free on the basis that I and my fellow adult citizens have contributed to the health system through our taxes. It might not be perfect but it’s a lot better than having to fork out thousands of bucks everytime you need a medical service. C’mon US wake up!
I think people complaining about the season were hoping for the show to resolve all the loose threads from the second season. Carmys clearly regressing, Sydney is experiencing alot of unvoiced trauma, Richie has bettered himself as a man but is dealing with lonliness.
And I don't think people are used to media where characters path to self-actualization isn't straight forward.
especially because they filmed seasons 3 and 4 consecutively and it's really more like 3A and 3B - they should have presented it as such
Well put
agreed
This imo was the best season but like you said I think the 'majority of people' wanted everything resolved. The problem is the normalcy of instant gratification.
it's a series. there will be no resolution. it's the equivalent of a Shepard tone.
For this episode, to basically be entirely in one room, to drive that much emotion, with only 2 people, shows how amazing the scene works were. Jaime Lee and Abby absolutely ate. 👏🏼
the way she calls sydney before her own family
She is the most level-headed person she knows. At least when it comes to other peoples' shit.
She was the last person she talked to and her "family" is either Carmy or Donna
@@elbruces oh i know i would absolutely call sydney too she would’ve been amazing in that situation it just says a lot about her family lol
I'd call Sydney too. She is def the one most likely to get things done properly.
I like to imagine it was fun for the writer(s) to work out what order she would phone people in.
This episode is one of those episodes of television that I will never ever forget. Just a piece of art. The way I sobbed the first time I watched it and then sobbed again watching this reaction!
It will be a travesty if Abby Elliott doesn't at the very least get an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Supporting Actress for her performance in this episode.
For real, I was legit about to comment this. I was outside in the backyard watching this...leaves on the ground, sun shining, wind blowing. And I couldn't stop myself from crying. This episode was so emotional and beautiful and powerful. Loved it.
Jaime Lee Curtis is doing the best work of her career in The Bear.
this episode was so phenomenal i cried all the way through it. stunning acting, directing writing everything. just beautiful
Their mom’s dream about the fish is really interesting upon reflection of the Fishes episode last season…
Thank you for showing your appreciation for this beautiful beautiful episode. ❤❤
I LOVED this season, like it has so many good character moments and honestly it effectively shows how the cast still needs more in order to grow
This was my favourite episode of the season. One of the biggest takeaways for me is that if Donna, the person that has probably caused the most damage in her children's life, is actually willing to work on herself and try to be better, then there is hope for Carmy to do the same.
I think there's a reason that Carmy is so heavily fixated on the Chef that tormented him and was abusive and made Carmy feel like he wasn't good enough. It mimics Carmy's relationship with his mom, where she probably never made him feel good enough and so he has this overwhelming drive to be perfect and is never satisfied. If Carmy wants to truly get better, he isn't going to need to just deal with the PTSD from his experience with the abusive Chef, he will also need to deal with his relationship with his mom and the whole family dynamic he grew up with.
I REALLY hope we get a fantastic moment between Donna and Carmy before the series ends.
Amazing episode! Abby Elliott is so underrated.
I think this season is good. I think the people who don't care for this season or who say it is too slow are people who are more invested in the restaurant storylines and not as interested in a deeper dive on the background of the characters. I get that but I think this is time well spent. This is quality acting and writing and in the long run it will pay off. Its not like they are recycling the same terrain the way some shows do to try to drag it out. I also agree that this episode is likely more impactful for women who watch it than men, although I thought it was a good episode and really like Abby as an actor and love her character and Jamie Lee Curtis has always been a real talent.
Excellent take. The show is not really about a restaurant, it's about the interpersonal relationships of the people who work in the restaurant and all of their emotional struggles coming to grips with some pretty heavy life experiences.
my mother is a midwife and from what she's told me this episode is pretty accurate, not just medically but she's seen dynamics like this between family A LOT. plus you guys are totally right, all fours and in a squat is a much better way and at least here in the uk most births are now done that way, thank god.
We had a water birth at home for our second, 10/10 would recommend
Best episode of season 3. My ex said no to the epidural shot initially. Only to change her mind when the pain started to really ramp up. I bet that happens more often than not. Also, they numb the area first where the needle goes. But I totally get the fear.
18:35 look at this show: how incredible. The long super close ups. The long pauses. The real talk. The warning sounds that a contraction is coming.
So amazing.
Some of those just silent emotional looks between those two actresses, were just amazing. I loved this season. There are some fantastic artistic chances they took with ep 1 & 2 that were great. And this one is probably my favorite of the season. The acting and writing was just perfect.
50yo man and I bawled the whole way through this beautiful episode. Just brilliant acting and direction.
I've been waiting for you to react to this episode. I knew that you'd cry as hard as I did, but at least with your reaction I didn't feel like I was crying alone. Thanks for that.
The complaints about the season were more about it as a whole rather than problems with individual episodes. The quality of the show is as high as ever. People just felt like it didn't move forward enough, like the situations the characters find themselves in are very similar to how we left them in the season 2 finale, not enough got resolved for it to feel satisfying.
But see the problem is that’s not how life works. Sometimes you don’t get the resolution and forward progress that you want. Life is hills and valleys that’s what the show is representing.
@@alexis45jones I enjoyed the season myself and I'm not saying the way it's written isn't realistic. Just that some people found it unsatisfying because of the lack of progress with most characters. I imagine if we had season 4 available right away there would be no complaints.
Two opening scenes in the car and the parking lot. Two closing scenes in the hallway and waiting room. Other than those and a shot or two of a nurse, this entire episode consists entirely of a two shot and close ups of these two incredible actresses. Abby Elliott and JLC with Emmy worthy performances. Masterful.
Everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion, but I just can’t fathom not liking this season, I thought the whole thing was as brilliant as ever. Great reaction!
Also, not saying anything y’all don’t know, but as a non-American, the cost of ambulances/general health care in the US is so infuriating and heartbreaking :(
lol, great Mean Girls reference, Arianna 😆
I would still consider this the weakest season in terms of my own preference (2>1>3) but agreed on how can people possibly call it weak. 3x01, 3x06 and 3x08 are all like top5/10 episode contenders
@@monfernova I think I pretty much feel the same way about all of this! For me it’s like:
1. Season 2
2a. Season 1
2b. Season 3
i.e. Season 1 has the slight edge but season 3 is very close. That’s not to say Season 2 is leaps and bounds above the other two, but it’s my clear favourite.
Those 3 episodes in S03 are among my favourites in the whole series as well. For me, Fishes and Forks are on another level, but then I’d group those 3 episodes with several others from S01 and S02 as the best of the rest
you guys are so real. i cried just as hard when i saw this episode. i agree with everything you discussed at the end too. i think casual viewers just didn’t vibe with this season which is fine, but the amount of hate it got was a little ridiculous. kind of a disservice to how amazing this show is. there’s a lot of shows out there, but not all of them have heart like the bear. you can feel it in the writing, acting, characters, just everything.
Abby & Jaime did a great interview of each other about this episode for INTERVIEW magazine, highly recommended.
Where can I find it?
All I know is that this show and yes even this episode has hit me in my emotions hard and it's not fair. Now I have resurfaced/unresolved trauma I gotta deal with and I'm stuck waiting for another season... I need my get back!!
My wife was in labor for 24-30 hours with our first .
Speaking of pain tolerance: without any need of rating or comparing, a birth is one of the hardest things on the human body. It lasts for too damn long, and it hurts as much as the next worst thing. Rawdogging it is not a flex and there's no shame in taking pain relief.
Miss. Maple... that is the most genius birth plan I've ever heard
They'd charge you for the ambulance showing up, Maple. Lol
Unbelievable that the Midnight Boys hated this episode.
And for the season, I think a lot of people just wanted, restaurant, restaurant, restaurant, no Claire, and ship Carm and Syd.
You two gotta watch Yellowstone, Ozark, and Yellow Jackets!!
I was so excited for this reaction 😊
"EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" LMAOOO
Absolutely beautiful and emotional. The journey and growth of characters I enjoyed this season and this episode was easily the highlight. How everything wraps up for season 3, not my cup of tea.
I have this feeling that DeeDee is such dark comedy, cause for real Moms are just so unreal but so genuine.
It's wild that people didn't like this season. The whole show is incredible and season three is absolutely up there with all the rest, which is a mile ahead of most of the garbage TV out there.
It’s wild that people didn’t like this episode specifically
wow you guys sure turned around quick on the idea of that Epidural lol
The best thing about skipping the epidural is that once the baby is out, the pain is over. Epidurals stay with you after the birth...the numbness, the (sometimes) spinal headaches, risk of paralysis...
That said, pitocin makes the contractions SO. MUCH. MORE. PAINFUL. Pit makes early labor feel like transition. I don't begrudge anyone their epidural. You gotta have a plan (and hopefully a doula) if you want to deliver naturally in the hospital.
Finally some women posted a reaction to this episode I’m tired of seeing guys trying to relate to mother daughter relationships 😭😭
Season 3 is really short, there could have been longer episodes. I liked it. I tried to have my other family members watch this show but they got a headache with the shaky camera and quick cuts.
This episode destroyed me.
So many people didnt like this episode. I admit I wasnt a huge fan of it but I understand the importance. And the acting was beyond amazing.
People are disappointed because of the major dip in form. The Claire Bear arc killed it.
She popped up randomly, and everything got much worse because of it.
A large part is the fact she was never mentioned in season 1; this is what did the character in.
We spent the whole season metaphorically trapped in the walk-in. For nothing.
The first episode was an hour long food montage and it was hilarious watching reactors react like me: 'it's over already? there was no story really, but it was beautiful and this The Bear so we'll say it is amazing art'.
We were being finessed and it continued all season. I'm vexed.
What is with the ambulance hate. Ambulance prices are set by the state. Medicare and Medicaid, the primary insurance of most ambulance patients, only pays a fraction of the cost they are allowed to charge. It's not the fault of the ambulance service that the US has such a shitty insurance system that allows insurance companies to choose what to deny rather than paying. Ambulance service, for the moment, can only charge if the patient is transported so Mabel's plan to call an ambulance to deliver her baby and then refuse transport is wrong for so many reasons. First it potentially endangers the lives of the mother and child and secondly the ambulance service has to eat the cost of all the supplies used and the salary for the EMTs. Which is one of the reasons why ambulance services cost so much. Even when ambulance services are municipality based that municipality bills for ambulance services because it would be fiscally irresponsible not to. People hate paying for a life saving service for some reason but have no problem with paying $300 for their doctor to stick their head in their hospital room and chat them up for 2 mins. Granted many many people call an ambulance for stupid stuff that doesn't require an ambulance. I've gone to calls for nightmares and a literal scratch from their cat basically across the street from the hospital.
Are you a bot who has a vengeance for ambulances 🚑 like what is this lol it’s going to be okay!
@MapleDivine Not a bot. Just a paramedic and former Chief of an ambulance service trying to educate people that don't understand how ambulance services work. Love your content btw.
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“but have no problem paying $300 for their doctor” idk about you chief but the doctors here in texas were trying to charge me $1000 for just seeing me.. so yeah people definitely have problems paying for doctors as well as emergency services lmao
So glad that in the UK I can call an ambulance for free on the basis that I and my fellow adult citizens have contributed to the health system through our taxes. It might not be perfect but it’s a lot better than having to fork out thousands of bucks everytime you need a medical service. C’mon US wake up!
Dang got the girls out on the left😅 straight hair to the right looking extra pretty ladies 👌