The scene where the actor comes out of exam hall the parents asking him about if the exam had ended reminds me of the same culture in india where parents wait for their children out of examhall. Nostalgic
of Europe?? he's Turkish. and there are a lot of incredible European directors currently (Thomas Vinterberg, Cristi Puiu, or Andrey Zvyagintsev) so it's a weird claim to make
Watched this about two months ago or so. The best way to describe it would be like watching a book transform into a movie. This was my first Ceylan movie. Definitely won't be the last.
@@zeynelabidinkusdemir6058 Sinan'ın bütün hayatı umutla geçti. O "bezelye tanesi gibi birbirinin tıpa tıp aynısı" insanlara benzememek için umut etti. Babası ve dedesi gibi dışlanmış, farklı, anlaşılmayan bir insan olmamak için umut etti. Bu ailedeki babalar ne kadar farklı olsalar da tıpatıp aynılardı. Hep hayatları bir yere kadar iyi gitmiş, sonra taşa vurmuşlar. Anlaşılmamışlar. Köpekle kurdukları bağı insanlara tercih etmişler. Sonunda da kitabını sadece babası okuyup anlayınca öğrendi ki, çoktan onlara benzemiş. Çünkü onu ondan başka anlayacak bir insan daha dünyaya gelmemiş. O yüzden bir kareliğine Sinan'ı kuyuya asılmış olarak gördük. Sinan; o umutlu, inançlı, Çan'dan kurtulmak isteyen Sinan'ı o kuyuya astı çünkü. Babasının oğlu oldu ve kuyuya küreği vurmaya başladı. Belki bir 10 metre daha Sinan ömrü boyunca kazacak. Ondan sonra oğlu. Kısır bir döngü. Köyden kurtulamamış ama beyni olan insanın yaşadığı döngüdür. Yitip gitmek yani. Pis, dedikoducu, sıkıntıdan birbirini kalleşçe boğazlayan köy halkı gibi olmamak için. Çok azı kurtulur, çok büyük insan olurlar. NBC gibi.
This movie is almost a different genre from most plot-driven films. It unfolds like a cinematic version of a great Russian novel - which could never be well translated to a movie version. Although it moves slowly, the situations and topics are sophisticated and the scenes reveal life’s mysteries and paradoxes without the crutch of Western philosophical framing and in a way that seems more natural.
@@sifta7 I watched it and I definitely got Tarkovsky vibes, but not necessarily in a good way. The movie feels like it tries to emulate existential themes and art (Beckett's Waiting for Godot, Tarkovsky, Dostoevsky) into something that could appeal to Turkish audiences, but at the same time it forgets to have its own voice. Still a good movie though
@@DarkAngelEU Thanks for sharing these connections. One thing that can be overlooked in such summaries is that despite the deep themes, the movie is buoyed by a sense of humor throughout. Glad you liked it.
A Turkish friend recommend this movie to me years ago but never got arround to watching it, as faith has it me and this movie cross paths again. I am gonna watch it this time. It looks incredible.
Mahmudul Hasan It is up to you how to get it. For me, Sinan executed not only his arrogant way of seeing his roots where he originally comes from but also his high hopes and future dreams. Anyway, it is a peace for him in the end...
Definitely my favourite part of the movie, but it could have cut so much just for this final scene to be so much stronger. Now, I quit around 2h20m, after the discussion with the imams, because I got bored of all the references to other existential material and literature, and the last act is so weak I simply didn't care anymore, up until the father returned. This movie really drags along because it wants to be like Tarkovsky and it's knocking itself down a notch because of it.
Filmin bütün anlamı buydu. Bezelye tanelerine benzeyen bir sürü insan, ve aynı bardakta çalkalandıkları halde (imam demişti bunu) onları yargılayan insanlar. Sinan buradan kurtulup bardaktan kaçmak istedi fakat başaramadı. Tıpkı babası ve onun babası gibi. Sinan, İdris ve Recep olup çıktı. Sonunda bardakta çalkalanmayı kabullendiler. Kötüsü de şudur ki, belki bu olay her köyde yaşanıyor. Nice insanlar başkalarının yargısı yüzünden sarı bezelye tanesine dönüşüyor fakat o bardaktan dışarı taşamıyorlar. Sonra hepsi kızdığımız o gerici çehrelere çevriliyorlar. Halbuki hepsi sadece yenilgiyi kabullenmiş ve yitmiş insanlar. Hayat biz Türklere çok acımasız...
The look of the grandfather is the same with İdris' look at the Sinan. They all become one and eachother. It's a disease that they can't escape. They all felt same disappointment when they saw their son in the well. Sinan will feel the same disappointment if his son fail to escape Çan, and finding his own unique identity within the similar, pea-like looking society of the Çan. Every Turkish child is doomed to live this dilemma. It's depressing and half of us doesn't survive this. We either hang our hopes just like Sinan did, and go with the flow of corrupt society or we literally hang ourselves to finish this misery. The people who can escape usually work for the well being of other countries.
25 yil once kactim universite yillarimadan Turkiye'nin nereye dogru evrilecegini (evriletilecegini, islamcilar Bati projesidir) cok iyi biliyordum diplomayi alir almaz tek bir is basvurusu dahi yapmadan vize islemlerine basladim....Bazen muthis derecede suclu ve bencil hissediyorum oyle ya da boyle bir elim yagda digeri balda yetisip buyumesemde beni ben yapan Turkiye'ydi bense sutunu-suyunu icip etini-ekmegini yiyip universite de dahil bedava egitimini alip "hastir senle isim olmaz" diyip bizim gibi insanlara en fazla ihtiyaci oldugu donemde ciktim.....Suclulugum, vicdan azabim bundandir...NBC dedgi gibi "benim yalniz ve guzel ulkem" gercektende guzel bir ulke harika bir cografya....Keske hepimiz daha da sabirli, cesaretli olabilseydik cok ama cok sey degisebilirdi, kazanabilirdik
@@milk_cow_blues Believe it or not, but it's pretty much the same anywhere around the world. I live at the heart of Europe and even here people are torn between moving away from their families and their traditions to pursue a different career, or get stuck in the "village" (literally, or a family company) and give up on their dreams. It's a universal theme of shying away from your roots, but in the end roots are important to sustain growth.
@@kuriyamatidusflossy bence en iyisini yapmisin. Nasil 1960 larda gurbete cikanlar dogdugu yerden doydugu yere gittigi gibi, sende kendin icin nerede yasamini daha iyi bir sekilde degerlendirebilirisin diye kendi acinda dogru bir karar verdin. Sonucta insan heryerde bir ülkenin sütünü-suyunu icip, etini ekmegini yegiyor ve o ülkeden faydalaniyor.
The movie is about a son and a father's relationship. Sons anger, unfit wild nature comes from his immature, unhealthy relation with his father as he doesn't want to see him like that. And the father is living or better if we say surviving by expelling himself from society as his heart amd soul is full of regrets...
The movie is about son and a father. Sons anger, unfit wild nature comes from his immature, unhealthy relation with his father. And the father is living or better of we say surviving by expelling himself from society as his heart amd soul is full of regrets...
@@bigchainring1977 I actually agree, this is something people who emulate Tarkovsky rarely take away from Tarkovsky: there should be a hint of magic in your movie if you want to show how beautiful ordinary life can be. This movie fails at doing so, and it really drags on for no real reason other than showing how "boring" and "depressing" rural Turkish life is. The only thing I got from it, is that the son is an asshole, no better than his father, and I don't feel sorry for him getting stuck in this village bc he's rather selfish and doesn't show any qualities that make him any different from his father.
Böyle güzel filimleri neden başka dillere çevirmiyorlar? Yabancı ülkeler yapmasada biz yapmalıyız. Türk filmin güzeliyini dünyaya göstermek için. Şurada kaç para tutar bir filmi yabancı dile çevirmek? Sonrayı düşünmeliyiz. Ilgiyle gelecekte daha çok ilgi ve dağıtıma ulaşılır. Böyle de daha çok satış yapılır. Önce dünyaya türk filmini tanıtmalıyız. Nuri Bilge Ceylan filmlerin hepsi önemli dillere cevrilmeli. En Azından İngilizceye, oyuncular bile bunu yapabilir. Her sanatçı iyi kötü İngilizceyi biliyor. Önünde bir diyalog oldun mu kolay aslında.
The scene where the actor comes out of exam hall the parents asking him about if the exam had ended reminds me of the same culture in india where parents wait for their children out of examhall. Nostalgic
This underrated film is an absolute masterpiece. One of the best five movies of the decade.
this ain't just a movie, this is an art tho.. NBC is the best director of europe that's fo'sho
For sure
of Europe?? he's Turkish. and there are a lot of incredible European directors currently (Thomas Vinterberg, Cristi Puiu, or Andrey Zvyagintsev) so it's a weird claim to make
He's from Asia.
probably one of the five best movies of the decade
One of my favourite movies from 2018 that I saw.
same
Watched this about two months ago or so. The best way to describe it would be like watching a book transform into a movie.
This was my first Ceylan movie. Definitely won't be the last.
just like a chekhov story
@@Enes-dz6km hey where can i watch this
A very beautiful and intense movie. Wish my Dad was alive. He would read the book that I've written. Neither Mom nor Sister did.
Sinan is a lucky man.
Turkish movies are scored so musically brilliantly.
This is Bach’s Passacaglia
Bu umut içinde bir derstir. Brezilya'dan teşekkür ederim 🌹
Umutla alakalı ne mesajı verdi ben tam anlayamadım siz ne anladınız ?
@@zeynelabidinkusdemir6058 Sinan'ın bütün hayatı umutla geçti. O "bezelye tanesi gibi birbirinin tıpa tıp aynısı" insanlara benzememek için umut etti. Babası ve dedesi gibi dışlanmış, farklı, anlaşılmayan bir insan olmamak için umut etti. Bu ailedeki babalar ne kadar farklı olsalar da tıpatıp aynılardı. Hep hayatları bir yere kadar iyi gitmiş, sonra taşa vurmuşlar. Anlaşılmamışlar. Köpekle kurdukları bağı insanlara tercih etmişler. Sonunda da kitabını sadece babası okuyup anlayınca öğrendi ki, çoktan onlara benzemiş. Çünkü onu ondan başka anlayacak bir insan daha dünyaya gelmemiş. O yüzden bir kareliğine Sinan'ı kuyuya asılmış olarak gördük. Sinan; o umutlu, inançlı, Çan'dan kurtulmak isteyen Sinan'ı o kuyuya astı çünkü. Babasının oğlu oldu ve kuyuya küreği vurmaya başladı. Belki bir 10 metre daha Sinan ömrü boyunca kazacak. Ondan sonra oğlu. Kısır bir döngü. Köyden kurtulamamış ama beyni olan insanın yaşadığı döngüdür. Yitip gitmek yani. Pis, dedikoducu, sıkıntıdan birbirini kalleşçe boğazlayan köy halkı gibi olmamak için. Çok azı kurtulur, çok büyük insan olurlar. NBC gibi.
Ben de Brezilyadayım, neresindesiniz?
Nuri deserves to win an Oscar sooner or later he is a true auteur.
never gonna happen, which necessarily is not a bad thing.
@@kimasbubbke8394 never say never.
He is above those awards
Cannes awards are much more prestigious and he has got alot of them
This movie is almost a different genre from most plot-driven films. It unfolds like a cinematic version of a great Russian novel - which could never be well translated to a movie version.
Although it moves slowly, the situations and topics are sophisticated and the scenes reveal life’s mysteries and paradoxes without the crutch of Western philosophical framing and in a way that seems more natural.
So it's like a Tarkovsky movie, but still plot-driven?
@@DarkAngelEU Good characterization. Also, less stylized, and more modern and accessible.
@@sifta7 K might watch it tomorrow. If you're up for it, I'd recommend Kala Azar. Something completely different, but I really liked it :)
@@sifta7 I watched it and I definitely got Tarkovsky vibes, but not necessarily in a good way. The movie feels like it tries to emulate existential themes and art (Beckett's Waiting for Godot, Tarkovsky, Dostoevsky) into something that could appeal to Turkish audiences, but at the same time it forgets to have its own voice.
Still a good movie though
@@DarkAngelEU Thanks for sharing these connections. One thing that can be overlooked in such summaries is that despite the deep themes, the movie is buoyed by a sense of humor throughout. Glad you liked it.
A Turkish friend recommend this movie to me years ago but never got arround to watching it, as faith has it me and this movie cross paths again. I am gonna watch it this time. It looks incredible.
I LOVE this movie, sublime, deep yet so many people walked out of the theatre, at least 11. They did not understand...
Nikki Diamond-Christudas I watched it in France and same for me, so many people left i was surprised bc it was magnificent for me.
What did they not understand?
I think a lot of people don't want a movie to push their buttons and show them their faults..they just want to escape..
I didn't understand the last scene
Mahmudul Hasan It is up to you how to get it. For me, Sinan executed not only his arrogant way of seeing his roots where he originally comes from but also his high hopes and future dreams. Anyway, it is a peace for him in the end...
The last scene was dope
Tarkovsky effect
Definitely my favourite part of the movie, but it could have cut so much just for this final scene to be so much stronger. Now, I quit around 2h20m, after the discussion with the imams, because I got bored of all the references to other existential material and literature, and the last act is so weak I simply didn't care anymore, up until the father returned. This movie really drags along because it wants to be like Tarkovsky and it's knocking itself down a notch because of it.
“ Bezelye taneleri gibi birbirine benzeyen bir sürü insan “
Filmin bütün anlamı buydu. Bezelye tanelerine benzeyen bir sürü insan, ve aynı bardakta çalkalandıkları halde (imam demişti bunu) onları yargılayan insanlar. Sinan buradan kurtulup bardaktan kaçmak istedi fakat başaramadı. Tıpkı babası ve onun babası gibi. Sinan, İdris ve Recep olup çıktı. Sonunda bardakta çalkalanmayı kabullendiler. Kötüsü de şudur ki, belki bu olay her köyde yaşanıyor. Nice insanlar başkalarının yargısı yüzünden sarı bezelye tanesine dönüşüyor fakat o bardaktan dışarı taşamıyorlar. Sonra hepsi kızdığımız o gerici çehrelere çevriliyorlar. Halbuki hepsi sadece yenilgiyi kabullenmiş ve yitmiş insanlar. Hayat biz Türklere çok acımasız...
I love this movie ❤️
The look of the grandfather is the same with İdris' look at the Sinan. They all become one and eachother. It's a disease that they can't escape. They all felt same disappointment when they saw their son in the well. Sinan will feel the same disappointment if his son fail to escape Çan, and finding his own unique identity within the similar, pea-like looking society of the Çan. Every Turkish child is doomed to live this dilemma. It's depressing and half of us doesn't survive this. We either hang our hopes just like Sinan did, and go with the flow of corrupt society or we literally hang ourselves to finish this misery. The people who can escape usually work for the well being of other countries.
I understand, my friend.
It's actually the same in México.
25 yil once kactim universite yillarimadan Turkiye'nin nereye dogru evrilecegini (evriletilecegini, islamcilar Bati projesidir) cok iyi biliyordum diplomayi alir almaz tek bir is basvurusu dahi yapmadan vize islemlerine basladim....Bazen muthis derecede suclu ve bencil hissediyorum oyle ya da boyle bir elim yagda digeri balda yetisip buyumesemde beni ben yapan Turkiye'ydi bense sutunu-suyunu icip etini-ekmegini yiyip universite de dahil bedava egitimini alip "hastir senle isim olmaz" diyip bizim gibi insanlara en fazla ihtiyaci oldugu donemde ciktim.....Suclulugum, vicdan azabim bundandir...NBC dedgi gibi "benim yalniz ve guzel ulkem" gercektende guzel bir ulke harika bir cografya....Keske hepimiz daha da sabirli, cesaretli olabilseydik cok ama cok sey degisebilirdi, kazanabilirdik
@@milk_cow_blues Believe it or not, but it's pretty much the same anywhere around the world. I live at the heart of Europe and even here people are torn between moving away from their families and their traditions to pursue a different career, or get stuck in the "village" (literally, or a family company) and give up on their dreams. It's a universal theme of shying away from your roots, but in the end roots are important to sustain growth.
@@kuriyamatidusflossy bence en iyisini yapmisin. Nasil 1960 larda gurbete cikanlar dogdugu yerden doydugu yere gittigi gibi, sende kendin icin nerede yasamini daha iyi bir sekilde degerlendirebilirisin diye kendi acinda dogru bir karar verdin. Sonucta insan heryerde bir ülkenin sütünü-suyunu icip, etini ekmegini yegiyor ve o ülkeden faydalaniyor.
The movie is about a son and a father's relationship. Sons anger, unfit wild nature comes from his immature, unhealthy relation with his father as he doesn't want to see him like that. And the father is living or better if we say surviving by expelling himself from society as his heart amd soul is full of regrets...
Long ass movie but absolutely worth watching it
Watching this I was in depression for one day :(
Oh man, I am glad you are still alive.
@@ozanyildirim ulan hahaha
Such a good movie!
In het begin traag op gang en het verhaal ontvouwt zich tot zoiets moois kostbaars. Heel stil van geworden
Bach’s Passacaglia is the music
Wonderful movie 🎥
A trilha sonora criou um contraste forte com a ambientação do enredo, ótimo filme!!
Best movie ever i watch its like a book.
I loved it
Subtitles are wrong
What a movie!
ക്യാമറമാനെ നമിക്കണം 🤝
🌹
I liked it, but it's not epic enough to justify the 190 minutes it needs to convey this particular story.
Why do you say not epic enough?...real life is rarely"epic"..
The movie is about son and a father.
Sons anger, unfit wild nature comes from his immature, unhealthy relation with his father. And the father is living or better of we say surviving by expelling himself from society as his heart amd soul is full of regrets...
@@bigchainring1977 I actually agree, this is something people who emulate Tarkovsky rarely take away from Tarkovsky: there should be a hint of magic in your movie if you want to show how beautiful ordinary life can be. This movie fails at doing so, and it really drags on for no real reason other than showing how "boring" and "depressing" rural Turkish life is. The only thing I got from it, is that the son is an asshole, no better than his father, and I don't feel sorry for him getting stuck in this village bc he's rather selfish and doesn't show any qualities that make him any different from his father.
Ótimo filme
What’s the language.
Taghreed Ahmed Turkish
Turkish
How can I watch it with eng sub?
Watch here in the U.S.: ruclips.net/video/N0po57abC1k/видео.html
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
is this movie sad?
A little
Frankly it is realistic so eventually sad
deeply
Kinda depressing imo, but depends on your own pov
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Böyle güzel filimleri neden başka dillere çevirmiyorlar? Yabancı ülkeler yapmasada biz yapmalıyız. Türk filmin güzeliyini dünyaya göstermek için. Şurada kaç para tutar bir filmi yabancı dile çevirmek? Sonrayı düşünmeliyiz. Ilgiyle gelecekte daha çok ilgi ve dağıtıma ulaşılır. Böyle de daha çok satış yapılır. Önce dünyaya türk filmini tanıtmalıyız. Nuri Bilge Ceylan filmlerin hepsi önemli dillere cevrilmeli. En Azından İngilizceye, oyuncular bile bunu yapabilir. Her sanatçı iyi kötü İngilizceyi biliyor. Önünde bir diyalog oldun mu kolay aslında.
Bizimkilerin vizyonu yok, güzel bi is yapilinca unutulmaya birakiyorlar
Bu film zaten çevrildi yorumlara baksan anlarsın adam fransada sinemada izledim diyo
@@frogmoment Altyazılıdır kardeşim. Cevrildin mi bir başka. Hem çoğu insan altyazılı bakmıyor.
The only part I didn’t like was when they cut the Passacaglia
You mean "pasaklı" : )
I am trying to understand this for a while
Hayatimda gordugum en kotu ingilizce altyazi tercumesi. Oha yani
Ar yu şur.
Bikaz, the sabtaytl is top noç aküret!