A few things I want to correct & mention: - Run time varies based on battery type, charge level and capacity, model, operating style and grass conditions. However, I can say that with an AP300 battery, you can expect to cut up to 2,500 sq ft. of grass or 45 minutes of run time. - The mowing blade speed is 3,200 RPM, not 3,600. - Deck setting 2 is 1.03" while setting 3 is 1.70". Yes I know, super weird...
I've been using this for nearly 2 years and find run time is also affected by temperature. If it's a warm day, I get way less runtime and have to do noticeably more battery changes.
I got the master-craft version none propelled. On sale end of season price 250$ it’s amazing and I got a decent size lawn. The two batteries I got with it charge almost as fast as it takes to discharge them. 4 batteries and two chargers keep you going none stop.
This is true, however one does get fed up walking up and down changing batteries and if there is no where to plug in, well 🤔... And more often than not the plug is a fair distance from the lawn you are mowing.
Fill, thanks for the information and the Stihl reviews. I'm wondering after using the products for awhile now, how do you feel about the Stihl battery line? I've seen some jumps in Stihl's battery improvements, and considering a jump from gas to battery for the 2024 season. I currently use Stihl gas equipment so wanting to find others who have made the switch to Stihl's battery lineup like you have and get honest feedback on the products? Thanks in advance.
I'm into both the AK and AP battery lines, and I have a smaller yard, so I bought the RMA510. My yard is heavily treed, so there's always some sort of debris on it; leaves, small twigs, etc. In the fall we have tremendous leaf clean-up to do. Long story short, this lawn mower was a huge disappointment. It's vacuuming ability is virtually non-existent. It rolls right over most debris without disturbing it, where my gas mower would suck it right up. The blade speed is there; I think the problem is the design of the deck and, most importantly, the design of the blade itself. I really like my Stihl battery hedge trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw and string trimmer, but I sold the mower very quickly and am back to using my gas Honda.
If you want a great bagging electric mower, look at the Toro Super Recycler 60v. It cuts just as well as it’s gas counterpart. It’s a no nonsense mower.
@@jmljml5065 It’s vacuum ability is excellent. When I dethatch my lawn, it cleans up the debris without issues. I dont know if any other electric mower that can do that. Also the SR is over 90 pounds with the battery. That weight along with the flex handles keeps the mower steady. However it is so well balanced along with its aluminum deck that it is very light. In fact, I find it more nimble that a Stihl 460
thank you for video learned few things about mine i chose 510 over 460 Stihl dealer we deal with thru my employer through me a bone gave 510 with 2 batteries for price of the 460 stihl not v model . i was making a regular drop off of our mowers for work to be worked on i asked question told them i was using old sunjoe 17 inch mower 4 yrs old 2 batteries it runs fine just cracked deck to wear motor was i'd took piece scrap plastic epox a patch any how they cut me nice deal guess it helped they had our business for 3 decades now i hush the tips you gave were things never seen or thought to do to remove the blade i love eco mode it ramps up when tough grass only thing i wonder is about the key going forward hope it not suffer over heating issue like my sunjoe but i do love the feature cause we have grandkid who autistic my fear he would grab it hurt himself because of him we remove everything good safety feature the 510 has given old mower a new lease
I’ve got the non self propelled version of this - I’m not happy with the clipping pick up - even a simple maintenance cut, I have to go over it multiple times or walk very slow to suck up all the clippings - do you find the same?
You are absolutely correct; it's vacuuming ability is very poor. I like my other Stihl battery tools, but I sold this mower very quickly. The problem is that Stihl (Greenworks) designs the blade for max runtime rather than for lifting ability; with a high-lift blade this mower would probably be okay, because the blade-speed is definitely there.
The RMA 510 won't even pick up a pine needle laying on top of 3 in grass! Or leaves for that matter! The blade design is totally wrong; very little up lift. I cut at 3 in and it won't pick up the track from the previous cut either. There is a Greenworks high lift blade out there somewhere that fits this. I paid $900 for a POS mower that I can't take back. ($900 store credit minus 10% restocking fee!) Stihl says take ot the dealer!
I looked at this but $700 for a push mower is too much. Bought a $300 gas Cub Cadet self propelled. My old Lawn Boy lasted 27 years. I don't believe a battery power one will last that long, especially with the number of batteries it would take.
Hi Fill, A helpful video. I don't have all the lingo right, so please bear with me. My question is about the rear chute. Another brand was found to build up (not fully discharge) the all clippings into the catcher/bag. So whilst the catcher/bag appeared not full, the user had to manually scoop the clippings near the chute into the catcher/bag. My question is, did you experience anything like the above (under different settings, eg, mulch mode on/off or catcher/bag on/off etc)? Thank you.
Thanks for the review. The cut seemed acceptable but would you consider this a residential mower or would you actually use this commercially. I don't think any battery mower is up to that level yet.
Stihl AP batteries are very good. However if you buy this mower, beware that the AP line of tools is very expensive for the average home owner. Often those tools are sold as bare tools only.
I'd be open to one of these if I knew it would cut 6" to 10" grass/weeds for 4 to five lawns in a row. Not just do maintenance work. I mow vacant rent houses and some of them are pretty bad. I just dont see this performing like a gas engine in the least. At least not now- its too early in the game for a gas replacement. And Im not talking about cutting down jungles, I mean just like shin high, which isn't bad.
The thin handle that you have to pull on to engage the blade is extremely uncomfortable from what I have heard. Total deal killer for me until they change it. Inexcusable design error
@@fillslawncareplus I love it. Was skeptical at first with all the issues i saw online but mine hasn’t disappointed. 0 issues! I bet the stihl and Milwaukee are made by the same manufacturer.
lmao next purchase? hell NO---> I got rid of all my electric yard tools as they just cant keep up with my 3 acres of land, gas powered is still the best choice
Already seems like you broke off a piece of that plastic part that sucks in air to pull more grass clippings into the bag. (Even looks like more or less like TurboStar from Sabo/ John Deere). Is there any real reason why you got that particular mower type other than already having AP-Batteries? Astounding enough Stihl in Germany does not carry this model of your mower.
Plastic part is fine, not broken. I bought this one because this was the only self-propelled 21" battery mower in my market where a dealer would assist with electrical repairs if needed. Milwaukee, Ego, Dewalt, etc. don't have any shops around that could diagnose any issues.
@@fillslawncareplus (apparently eGo does have a repair shop near me) are really solid & the mower frequently gets 12" grass in the winter. Being able to size the battery to the job is a nice perk.
If this is going to be your focus, which it seems to be and is understandable...please let your viewers know. I like this aspect, as a *side*, not as the main focus, though. I understand others may feel differently, but I will unsubscribe if so and still check back for your original content.
This is my 2nd behind the scenes channel. My main focus will always be my 1st channel. The season is winding down. Harder to find properties. We live in a 4 season state.
@@fillslawncareplus Okay, I'm aware it's your 2nd channel, but living in Michigan, which fully experiences all 4 seasons, I know here that all are still busy on lawn work. Just wondering.
@@dystopiandaze mowing season is over in my area. A lot of companies have blown out sprinklers and finished fall cleanups. We've already had snow on the ground and 3 inches expected this week :)
I had an irrigation company and tried to get all systems serviced in October...1st week of November. But as I type thus I can hear someone out doing yard work, most likely leaf cleanup. We haven't had snow yet, but it's coming. Have a blessed week. @@fillslawncareplus
A few things I want to correct & mention:
- Run time varies based on battery type, charge level and capacity, model, operating style and grass conditions. However, I can say that with an AP300 battery, you can expect to cut up to 2,500 sq ft. of grass or 45 minutes of run time.
- The mowing blade speed is 3,200 RPM, not 3,600.
- Deck setting 2 is 1.03" while setting 3 is 1.70". Yes I know, super weird...
I've been using this for nearly 2 years and find run time is also affected by temperature.
If it's a warm day, I get way less runtime and have to do noticeably more battery changes.
Thank you for sharing the info , keep up the good work ✌️
Thank you
Good info. I like how machine folds up. Easy storage over winter. Thanks Fill 💚
Thanks for watching, Sonnie :)
I got the master-craft version none propelled. On sale end of season price 250$ it’s amazing and I got a decent size lawn. The two batteries I got with it charge almost as fast as it takes to discharge them. 4 batteries and two chargers keep you going none stop.
This is true, however one does get fed up walking up and down changing batteries and if there is no where to plug in, well 🤔... And more often than not the plug is a fair distance from the lawn you are mowing.
This helped alot. we will be buying one from you r video advice. Thanks!
Fill, thanks for the information and the Stihl reviews. I'm wondering after using the products for awhile now, how do you feel about the Stihl battery line? I've seen some jumps in Stihl's battery improvements, and considering a jump from gas to battery for the 2024 season. I currently use Stihl gas equipment so wanting to find others who have made the switch to Stihl's battery lineup like you have and get honest feedback on the products? Thanks in advance.
I'm into both the AK and AP battery lines, and I have a smaller yard, so I bought the RMA510. My yard is heavily treed, so there's always some sort of debris on it; leaves, small twigs, etc. In the fall we have tremendous leaf clean-up to do. Long story short, this lawn mower was a huge disappointment. It's vacuuming ability is virtually non-existent. It rolls right over most debris without disturbing it, where my gas mower would suck it right up. The blade speed is there; I think the problem is the design of the deck and, most importantly, the design of the blade itself. I really like my Stihl battery hedge trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw and string trimmer, but I sold the mower very quickly and am back to using my gas Honda.
If you want a great bagging electric mower, look at the Toro Super Recycler 60v. It cuts just as well as it’s gas counterpart. It’s a no nonsense mower.
@@LL-mt2nz How is it's vacuuming ability with regard to yard debris like leaves, etc?
@@jmljml5065 It’s vacuum ability is excellent. When I dethatch my lawn, it cleans up the debris without issues. I dont know if any other electric mower that can do that. Also the SR is over 90 pounds with the battery. That weight along with the flex handles keeps the mower steady. However it is so well balanced along with its aluminum deck that it is very light. In fact, I find it more nimble that a Stihl 460
thank you for video learned few things about mine i chose 510 over 460 Stihl dealer we deal with thru my employer through me a bone gave 510 with 2 batteries for price of the 460 stihl not v model . i was making a regular drop off of our mowers for work to be worked on i asked question told them i was using old sunjoe 17 inch mower 4 yrs old 2 batteries it runs fine just cracked deck to wear motor was i'd took piece scrap plastic epox a patch any how they cut me nice deal guess it helped they had our business for 3 decades now i hush the tips you gave were things never seen or thought to do to remove the blade i love eco mode it ramps up when tough grass only thing i wonder is about the key going forward hope it not suffer over heating issue like my sunjoe but i do love the feature cause we have grandkid who autistic my fear he would grab it hurt himself because of him we remove everything good safety feature the 510 has given old mower a new lease
I'm about to buy one of these for my mom.
Loved this video. I've been considering going with battery operated tools. Then I don't have to wait to go get gas. Also, they are quieter.
Thank you :)
You can just wait for the battery to charge 😂😂😂
I’ve got the non self propelled version of this - I’m not happy with the clipping pick up - even a simple maintenance cut, I have to go over it multiple times or walk very slow to suck up all the clippings - do you find the same?
Yeah sometimes it seems like the edges of the deck don't get cut.
I think it's got to do with how the deck lifts the gras straight up for the blade to cut it.
You are absolutely correct; it's vacuuming ability is very poor. I like my other Stihl battery tools, but I sold this mower very quickly. The problem is that Stihl (Greenworks) designs the blade for max runtime rather than for lifting ability; with a high-lift blade this mower would probably be okay, because the blade-speed is definitely there.
1 year update....Im done with it.... I hate it....go over my lawn 2 times to get a clean cut - Its up for sale and I just bought a honda HRX217
The RMA 510 won't even pick up a pine needle laying on top of 3 in grass! Or leaves for that matter! The blade design is totally wrong; very little up lift. I cut at 3 in and it won't pick up the track from the previous cut either. There is a Greenworks high lift blade out there somewhere that fits this. I paid $900 for a POS mower that I can't take back. ($900 store credit minus 10% restocking fee!) Stihl says take ot the dealer!
I looked at this but $700 for a push mower is too much. Bought a $300 gas Cub Cadet self propelled. My old Lawn Boy lasted 27 years. I don't believe a battery power one will last that long, especially with the number of batteries it would take.
Hey Fill what's the difference between the ap300 & ap500 battery thanks Fill.
Super helpful video - thanks!
Hi Fill,
A helpful video.
I don't have all the lingo right, so please bear with me. My question is about the rear chute.
Another brand was found to build up (not fully discharge) the all clippings into the catcher/bag. So whilst the catcher/bag appeared not full, the user had to manually scoop the clippings near the chute into the catcher/bag.
My question is, did you experience anything like the above (under different settings, eg, mulch mode on/off or catcher/bag on/off etc)? Thank you.
I have not had any issues with the rear discharge area clogging. You'll run into that problem mainly when you're mowing wet grass.
Thanks for sharing the information.
Thanks for watching:)
Question: which wheels are the drive wheels on self propelled models? Is it a front wheel drive or is it a rear wheel drive?
Thanks in advance
Rear
Its been a year, how is the mower doing?
Like a Super Nintendo 5:04, it even sounds like it! :D
I've seen so many mowers that wouldn't cut and when i went to look at it they had the blade on upside down
Yep I've seen that as well
Hey question Fill next year when mowing season comes up, are you planning on having a helper or stay as a solo guy?
Stay as a solo guy
@@fillslawncareplus okay
Thanks for the review. The cut seemed acceptable but would you consider this a residential mower or would you actually use this commercially. I don't think any battery mower is up to that level yet.
I've used this commercially on small properties but you will have to buy multiple batteries and charge them during your route.
@@fillslawncareplus thanks I've been interested in how this battery tech is evolving.
Awesome video fill
Thanks bro!
Looks nice and robust, broken the deck on my ego with a piece of brick in longish grass 😕 .. not sure about those tiny batteries on that Stihl though
Stihl AP batteries are very good. However if you buy this mower, beware that the AP line of tools is very expensive for the average home owner. Often those tools are sold as bare tools only.
Interesting review. Approximately how long does a battery last before requiring a charge.
I'd say 20-30 minutes
I'd be open to one of these if I knew it would cut 6" to 10" grass/weeds for 4 to five lawns in a row. Not just do maintenance work. I mow vacant rent houses and some of them are pretty bad. I just dont see this performing like a gas engine in the least. At least not now- its too early in the game for a gas replacement. And Im not talking about cutting down jungles, I mean just like shin high, which isn't bad.
It'll cope no problem.
Homebase has a sale buy an get an extra battery. Good?
If you are mulching why have the catcher on the rear of the mower?
Same reason why he doesn't overlap his cuts! Leaves a nice ridge!
What price point is this mower at?
$500 without battery/charger
Where do you charge the batteries?
My truck has a built in inverter
The thin handle that you have to pull on to engage the blade is extremely uncomfortable from what I have heard. Total deal killer for me until they change it. Inexcusable design error
Is this comparable to a Toro Recycler
I'd say so
This mower has pretty much the same similar features as the Milwaukee m18 mower 🤔
Just about. I want to get one and compare both
@@fillslawncareplus I have the Milwaukee it’s been rock solid!
@@darwindropmazda how do you like it?
@@fillslawncareplus I love it. Was skeptical at first with all the issues i saw online but mine hasn’t disappointed. 0 issues! I bet the stihl and Milwaukee are made by the same manufacturer.
Like a bald guy going to the barber and telling us how great the scissors worked. Could we see a demonstration on grass that actually needs to be cut?
It's $699 here. A little 36v battery is why I passed.
lmao next purchase? hell NO---> I got rid of all my electric yard tools as they just cant keep up with my 3 acres of land, gas powered is still the best choice
Already seems like you broke off a piece of that plastic part that sucks in air to pull more grass clippings into the bag. (Even looks like more or less like TurboStar from Sabo/ John Deere). Is there any real reason why you got that particular mower type other than already having AP-Batteries? Astounding enough Stihl in Germany does not carry this model of your mower.
Plastic part is fine, not broken. I bought this one because this was the only self-propelled 21" battery mower in my market where a dealer would assist with electrical repairs if needed. Milwaukee, Ego, Dewalt, etc. don't have any shops around that could diagnose any issues.
@@fillslawncareplus this is a good point. Other reviewers don’t even consider after sales service.
@@fillslawncareplus (apparently eGo does have a repair shop near me) are really solid & the mower frequently gets 12" grass in the winter. Being able to size the battery to the job is a nice perk.
Seems rather loud for an electric mower. If it really is that loud, kind of defeats one of the reasons i would use in my purchase decisions.
It's still super loud:(
No it's not
Almost $800.00 for a walk behind mower that only runs for 45 min?😂
lol right?
That’s on point for mowers with a steel deck. Synthetic decks will give a longer run time
700+$ for a battery powered 21in mower not in this life time sthil hmm more like steal
You pay for quality.
@@LeeFrancis-f6yits’s MTD
If this is going to be your focus, which it seems to be and is understandable...please let your viewers know. I like this aspect, as a *side*, not as the main focus, though. I understand others may feel differently, but I will unsubscribe if so and still check back for your original content.
This is my 2nd behind the scenes channel. My main focus will always be my 1st channel. The season is winding down. Harder to find properties. We live in a 4 season state.
@@fillslawncareplus Okay, I'm aware it's your 2nd channel, but living in Michigan, which fully experiences all 4 seasons, I know here that all are still busy on lawn work. Just wondering.
@@dystopiandaze mowing season is over in my area. A lot of companies have blown out sprinklers and finished fall cleanups. We've already had snow on the ground and 3 inches expected this week :)
I had an irrigation company and tried to get all systems serviced in October...1st week of November. But as I type thus I can hear someone out doing yard work, most likely leaf cleanup. We haven't had snow yet, but it's coming. Have a blessed week.
@@fillslawncareplus
@@dystopiandaze you too thank you 😊
Maybe in twenty years these will be useful as they improve.
Hey where did get your lawn uniforms made?