Love the contents! Please make a brief video about addons and ui for pvp, the essential ones and general rules. I’m a returning player and setting this stuff up is a pain.
This is a Blizzard move. They wanna get rid of demonology, but in order to do that they need to make everyone to hate it. And they will rework it or completely new spec
I think they should just go for a hail mary move and try to make it like og demo. Like having the Demonform again and have it be like the commander buff for ya minions or like idk make it a new playstyle for lock I loved Demonform and wish they would bring it back was such a cool ability.
@RhodesianSuperiority what? You have to cast hog,fiend,dreadstalkers,fear,stun,tyrant while BM is all instant casts I'm just saying BM is on another level in terms of brain dead gameplay
I love watching pvp videos but I always get overwhelmed by the amount of stuff in the scene. I'm a 'ok' pve player (m+) but pvp seems super far for me =( Anyways nice video, keep posting!
💯 too much going on. Imagine being a new player to this game lol.. pvp is no fun for 99% of noobs .. pvp is slowly dying. All the premades ain’t helping much either.
It's not even just that pvp is challenging. It's that pvp is challenging AND the players that are good and that have been playing for the past 15-20 years, gatekeep new players from learning. Instead of helping and encouraging, they ridicule them and belittle them. They're so hollow on the inside that WoW is the ONLY thing in life that they have, so they hold it against you and prevent you from joining. Because if a new player learns and miraculously becomes better than them, that person's whole life becomes pointless.
@venruki hey bro how do you disable the nameplate for the “non-important” demons …? If I was facing a demo too I’d like only the important pets health bars showing …?
enhance feels really good this patch. Still playing storm went 10-6 yesterday in shuffie. Stack as much mastery as possible for procs and use the talent where maelstrom procs lower cooldown for spirit wolves. During non avatar just gotta keep sustain and be annoying lol.
Ven. Would you tell me your UI setup, what your using and how to set it up pls? I don't play lock ATM. Ret. Pally here but just to know how you have this all setup would help me dramatically! Oh, quick question.. Why are you always wearing an "In Flames" t-shirt? Do they sponsor you? Anyhow you are one of the best bro, keep it up!
The advice in the first 30 seconds of the video sadly is what 99% of people will ignore, they will find whatever is most broken like DH and play that. DH is far more broken than demo lock. Then when DH is nerfed, they willreroll and play the next most OP. Hard to enjoy pvp in retail due to that.
@brokenclass6697 I haven't PvP'd S3 yet (been on vacation and it's just started) so I don't know about DH right now. BUT he's not wrong, whichever class is the "OP" class is 50% of what you'll play. Remember the insane Ret buffs last season, Ven pulled up his match history and for 100+ games he played like 2 games in multiple days that didn't have a Ret, 100+ did.
BM hunter, combat rogue, and DH do more damage than Demo in PVE hands down and they also have better mobility but demo’s mobility is fine IMO though it spends more time casting than last season. In PVE it is actually in the middle of the pack. As far as PvP goes, DH solo que rating is higher than Demo, so is destro’s. point blank Demo does not have the highest rating when in total when you look at the numbers. Let’s get the whole picture here and not all those people complaining, especially a BM hunter about lack of cc (lol learn to play your class). If they want demo more focused on damage from casts and not pets that’s fine. Just all the people raging because they don’t know how to play their class or look at the numbers is not helping anything.
dont know how the fuck people keep track of everything thats going on in a arena with the amount of bullshit flying around and popping up at the screen, my reaction is literally 'what the fuck is this piece of shit'
I love dis gameplay but if melee comps comes u will be destroyed pretty quickly. Ppl really underestimate the power of melee comps they all the time bursting non stop moving to u. Becuz a good melee player knows how to get into range easily.
I thought you looked sick or something, like maybe you quietly developed an opiate addiction. But hearing that you are recovering from COVID it makes sense. Hope u r ok Ven
I'll take dealing with this over bgs with 3-5 hunters Also isn't it kind of funny to be like, "whoa, this is all I have to do!" when that's kind of on par with normal classes :/
I can’t play this spec for shit in 2s you just get trained and everyone runs away from tyrant and it feels so much harder to land kills for me then any other class lol warlock is by far the class I’m the shittiest Like I have damage but it doesn’t pose any threat of killing until deep damp (this is also 2s I don’t play much 3v3 )
Yea man lock is good but shuffle as caster is just not fun, playing against 3 melee lobbies 24/7 Melee is just brain dead in pvp, they need to get rid of these stupid micro ccs
Pet classes like BM and Demo should just not be viable in pvp. Unholy dk is 90% player dmg so i think its kinda okay, but 99% of your dmg being pets that are nearly unpeelable is not. These classes are made for boomers who cant play another class, they shouldn’t have anywhere close to good dmg.
The pets are truly unpeelable. You have to stop the casts and stun and kill the lock to live. You cant survive a demo lock effectivly if they out cc you or use mobility better than you(or have a teammate who knows how to peel).
stop promting these goddamn comps wich will mess up your UI totally :D thats crazy venruki has joined the dark side and i thought u was cool my man ._.
Watching Lock being in every single game just gives me the perfect reason not to come back after being on the fence. so much garbage all over the screen constantly.
While ret was good for a while? .. bro the fuck are yu smoking rets were as op as when dks first came to wow. Regardless I play ret ad so do you and we both know currently it's fucking pumping ridiculous damage.
Ret is ok at best, it has good range, and damage, but cant steal or remove other ppls defensives, no mortal strike, no instant mobility, a weak slow, no knock back, cant hide under ground or in the sky, no disarm, no stealth, no 30 pets, no 30 second cd fear that doesent break on damage. 3 of the potential 4 ccs a paladin can have breaks on any damage, even little dot ticks or damage, and Blizzard gives Ret several talants to have abilities do dot damage which breaks those ccs. IF paladin is viable, it is a miracle with Forbearance meaning the Palidin cant use 5 of of its own defensives on themselves for 30 seconds if they have used the 6th. LOS or CC during wings, remove bubble early or wait a few seconds and you have 22-28.5 seconds of Forbearance time to kill the Paladin all you want.
@@edwardhatfield5360 Ret doesn't need a mortal strike. If they had mortal strike, wings would genuinely be an unhealable cd. Ret has insane damage, massive range for a melee and still has utility like sanc or sac. Thats a really cooked take.
Funny how he’s not on here crying and complaining but let it be a rogue and there’s gonna be 2 videos crying about how unbalanced and unfair it is and they need to be removed from the game
I dont think rogue is op right now. Got me fully 10.2 geared (as far as we can without a crafted item or world pvp) in the last two days on Ret before touching rated pvp and I didnt come across a single scary (skilled) rogue. Rogue isnt over tuned so it isnt novice friendly.
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I just wish this spec in its current form would just go away like nothings fun seeing 90 pets on the screen
the only positive is when you play monk and hit the swarm with a chi ji cloud and they all fall asleep. pretty funny :)
Turn off your minion health bar option
@@bosssavage3325now you can’t see totems.
You need addons to deal with this bs.
Bm sends its regards
Exactly. Milion pet classes shouldnt exist. Bring back Cata/Mop Demo
Love the contents! Please make a brief video about addons and ui for pvp, the essential ones and general rules. I’m a returning player and setting this stuff up is a pain.
Come on man there’s millions of videos covering this over the years jesus… use the search button
This is a Blizzard move. They wanna get rid of demonology, but in order to do that they need to make everyone to hate it. And they will rework it or completely new spec
I think they should just go for a hail mary move and try to make it like og demo. Like having the Demonform again and have it be like the commander buff for ya minions or like idk make it a new playstyle for lock I loved Demonform and wish they would bring it back was such a cool ability.
We already hate it, its just as braindead as BM, with twice the CC and double the dmg.
@@RhodesianSuperioritynah BM doesnt need to cast spells or worry about getting kicked
@@PoopSockJohnson demo barely does either lmao
@RhodesianSuperiority what? You have to cast hog,fiend,dreadstalkers,fear,stun,tyrant while BM is all instant casts I'm just saying BM is on another level in terms of brain dead gameplay
Imagine if fear broke on damage like Blinding Light and Repentance, and Turn Evil.
plays paladin
It does….
I love watching pvp videos but I always get overwhelmed by the amount of stuff in the scene. I'm a 'ok' pve player (m+) but pvp seems super far for me =(
Anyways nice video, keep posting!
You are far from alone. PvP is dying because of it.
💯 too much going on. Imagine being a new player to this game lol.. pvp is no fun for 99% of noobs .. pvp is slowly dying. All the premades ain’t helping much either.
@@EthCepherAre you complaining about premade groups in random bg’s? 🤔
It's not even just that pvp is challenging. It's that pvp is challenging AND the players that are good and that have been playing for the past 15-20 years, gatekeep new players from learning. Instead of helping and encouraging, they ridicule them and belittle them. They're so hollow on the inside that WoW is the ONLY thing in life that they have, so they hold it against you and prevent you from joining. Because if a new player learns and miraculously becomes better than them, that person's whole life becomes pointless.
2s is harder then 3s but 2s has a lot less things going on in it , try it it’s easier on the brain lol
You Laughing so hard it made you Cry, absolutely made my day🤣
Demo is fun and games till you face a frost mage/feral/Outlaw rogue/WW monk who knows how to strike of the windlord with all your pets out.
@venruki hey bro how do you disable the nameplate for the “non-important” demons …? If I was facing a demo too I’d like only the important pets health bars showing …?
You'd need something like Plater and customize your settings
What is your bartender4 UI?
This is exactly the same as watching a DH play. Press 1, 2, 3 - > they're dead
The spec is so broken that it broke Venruki down to hilarious tears.
Could you try out triple demo lock or something?
what nameplate addon do you use and whats your profile
playing enh/ele and hunter. Enh has been interesting, when I pop all my cd's people explode. Outside of that I am cannon fodder.
enhance feels really good this patch. Still playing storm went 10-6 yesterday in shuffie. Stack as much mastery as possible for procs and use the talent where maelstrom procs lower cooldown for spirit wolves. During non avatar just gotta keep sustain and be annoying lol.
You think Mastery is better than Haste this season?@@gFDSjvKbndKJcbdjv
Dude have a 3v3 with only Demo Warlocks, turn on friendly nameplates and watch the chaos.
Ven. Would you tell me your UI setup, what your using and how to set it up pls? I don't play lock ATM. Ret. Pally here but just to know how you have this all setup would help me dramatically! Oh, quick question.. Why are you always wearing an "In Flames" t-shirt? Do they sponsor you? Anyhow you are one of the best bro, keep it up!
The advice in the first 30 seconds of the video sadly is what 99% of people will ignore, they will find whatever is most broken like DH and play that. DH is far more broken than demo lock. Then when DH is nerfed, they willreroll and play the next most OP. Hard to enjoy pvp in retail due to that.
Bro ur tripping
@brokenclass6697 I haven't PvP'd S3 yet (been on vacation and it's just started) so I don't know about DH right now.
BUT he's not wrong, whichever class is the "OP" class is 50% of what you'll play. Remember the insane Ret buffs last season, Ven pulled up his match history and for 100+ games he played like 2 games in multiple days that didn't have a Ret, 100+ did.
I play both classes & also arms. Demo is by far the most busted.
I play DH almost exclusively, regardless of what state we're in. I just love DH as a class.
BM hunter, combat rogue, and DH do more damage than Demo in PVE hands down and they also have better mobility but demo’s mobility is fine IMO though it spends more time casting than last season. In PVE it is actually in the middle of the pack. As far as PvP goes, DH solo que rating is higher than Demo, so is destro’s. point blank Demo does not have the highest rating when in total when you look at the numbers. Let’s get the whole picture here and not all those people complaining, especially a BM hunter about lack of cc (lol learn to play your class). If they want demo more focused on damage from casts and not pets that’s fine. Just all the people raging because they don’t know how to play their class or look at the numbers is not helping anything.
Demo its not broke its finnaly good :) we dont need play around tyrant like before :)
Felguard nearly solos players XD
So it begins 😂
you were not fighting melee cleaves in this video. Doubt this will be fun into ret/war or turbo
I hear going full mastery as Demo is sleeper
so i'm a new healer and i healed a demo lock today. I barely had to do anything lol we went like 11-0 before he had to go
Haha good advice at the beginning
dont know how the fuck people keep track of everything thats going on in a arena with the amount of bullshit flying around and popping up at the screen, my reaction is literally
'what the fuck is this piece of shit'
This makes me so glad im not into retail anymore haha
Shiiit sub rogue rly op !!
3 likes when i clicked, to see something i hate the most facing in arena, i'm done :D
I love dis gameplay but if melee comps comes u will be destroyed pretty quickly. Ppl really underestimate the power of melee comps they all the time bursting non stop moving to u. Becuz a good melee player knows how to get into range easily.
Mmm DH/Lock Darkness will prevail!!!
Killed rbg, now killing arenas. Gj
why do we always have to just "play what sounds fun" because the game isnt good? why cant blizz just make the game good?
Because there’s like 2 dudes working on PvP at the company lol, in BFA there was literally, no joke, confirmed, a single person 😂
I thought you looked sick or something, like maybe you quietly developed an opiate addiction. But hearing that you are recovering from COVID it makes sense. Hope u r ok Ven
I was playing enhancement and wasn't liking it I switched to arcane and been having a blast
An arcane blast?
I see what you did there.
Funny how the demon lord spec of wow is countered by a furry fennec fox
Glad i quit, but hyped for SoD
I'll take dealing with this over bgs with 3-5 hunters
Also isn't it kind of funny to be like, "whoa, this is all I have to do!" when that's kind of on par with normal classes :/
I can’t play this spec for shit in 2s you just get trained and everyone runs away from tyrant and it feels so much harder to land kills for me then any other class lol warlock is by far the class I’m the shittiest
Like I have damage but it doesn’t pose any threat of killing until deep damp (this is also 2s I don’t play much 3v3 )
I understand why they put these brain dead specs for nubs to play but then dont make them do so much dmg in pvp.
Yea man lock is good but shuffle as caster is just not fun, playing against 3 melee lobbies 24/7
Melee is just brain dead in pvp, they need to get rid of these stupid micro ccs
dirty dan
Lay off the 💨
VoidVelfVen
Aff has been a blaast since shadowlands tbh
aka game is balanced by clowns 0:15
Imagine playing demo and not being orc
no thanks
What is he crying about today ?
Find an unholy dk to play with 😂 pet army
Pet classes like BM and Demo should just not be viable in pvp. Unholy dk is 90% player dmg so i think its kinda okay, but 99% of your dmg being pets that are nearly unpeelable is not. These classes are made for boomers who cant play another class, they shouldn’t have anywhere close to good dmg.
The pets are truly unpeelable. You have to stop the casts and stun and kill the lock to live. You cant survive a demo lock effectivly if they out cc you or use mobility better than you(or have a teammate who knows how to peel).
stop promting these goddamn comps wich will mess up your UI totally :D thats crazy venruki has joined the dark side and i thought u was cool my man ._.
Rets become a bit more than viable - hotfix nerfed, locks borderline OP pretty much all the time - get buffed lmao
#nerfret
Hahahaha
lmfao star wars
No one likes demo it’s boring and annoying
Watching Lock being in every single game just gives me the perfect reason not to come back after being on the fence. so much garbage all over the screen constantly.
If your going to be serious just enjoy it??you weren't saying that while ret was good for few days an you were crying in every video
While ret was good for a while? .. bro the fuck are yu smoking rets were as op as when dks first came to wow. Regardless I play ret ad so do you and we both know currently it's fucking pumping ridiculous damage.
For 3 days...
Ret has literally been good all expansion, what are you talking about
Ret is ok at best, it has good range, and damage, but cant steal or remove other ppls defensives, no mortal strike, no instant mobility, a weak slow, no knock back, cant hide under ground or in the sky, no disarm, no stealth, no 30 pets, no 30 second cd fear that doesent break on damage. 3 of the potential 4 ccs a paladin can have breaks on any damage, even little dot ticks or damage, and Blizzard gives Ret several talants to have abilities do dot damage which breaks those ccs. IF paladin is viable, it is a miracle with Forbearance meaning the Palidin cant use 5 of of its own defensives on themselves for 30 seconds if they have used the 6th. LOS or CC during wings, remove bubble early or wait a few seconds and you have 22-28.5 seconds of Forbearance time to kill the Paladin all you want.
@@edwardhatfield5360 Ret doesn't need a mortal strike. If they had mortal strike, wings would genuinely be an unhealable cd. Ret has insane damage, massive range for a melee and still has utility like sanc or sac. Thats a really cooked take.
Now show your melee heavy matches......
Funny how he’s not on here crying and complaining but let it be a rogue and there’s gonna be 2 videos crying about how unbalanced and unfair it is and they need to be removed from the game
I dont think rogue is op right now. Got me fully 10.2 geared (as far as we can without a crafted item or world pvp) in the last two days on Ret before touching rated pvp and I didnt come across a single scary (skilled) rogue. Rogue isnt over tuned so it isnt novice friendly.