Hello fellow Old schoolers! Make sure to check out farmstead mtgs point of view in this match: here’s a link to his video: ruclips.net/video/ewbV1sPYSvU/видео.html As for time stamps for this video: Odds deck tech: 01:40 Gandalfs composition-A: 06:00 Round 1 of the match: 10:38. Have fun!
I think I do notice. I take one damage after vise is played (I had 5 cards in hand). I just move the dice for 3 damage total at the same time as I take the 2 damage from the attacking factory - that’s because odd passes the turn immediately after his attack. After that initial damage I draw and play mox and then swords on my own factory in odds turn - putting me below 5 cards for the rest of the match.
That might be correct, but commenting „here he comes for 3“ confuses a lot. You can do better than that. ;-) By the way. Your comments are way better than his. :-) Keep up the good work.
@@HarmonicSliver Lol yes I must have missed the damage from the black vise when I commented on the game and thought the factory did the 3 damage. Which means I remembered the black vise in the game but commented the segment wrongly - no wonder that part was confusing! :D
12:25, I can‘t play anything: Do you remember my comment about Fellwar Stone instead of Mox Ruby and Mox Emerald? ;-) It is a turn 2 drop and you play with Sinkhole, Hypnotic Specter, Juzam Djinn and even Underworld Dream’s. After sideboarding it supports BEB, REB and Divine Offering etc. What does a Mox Ruby do in comparison except some speed in rare cases?
I remember - yeah it could be really nice with so many colors - though i really like the moxen for fast juzams and specters as well - its true the stone would mana fix more. Id give it a spin instead of the emerald perhaps?
@@HarmonicSliver Well the ruby provide rebs after sb and access to early bolts in some com-a variants. It also provides power plays with ancestral, time walk and geyser. Its good after a draw-7 to continue the turn. And its a numbers game right? Sometimes comp-a gets in early mana trouble and cant move fast enough because of it - like we saw in round 1 here - it happens but so far its reasonably rare. More often it gets into a position with a lot of mana permanents for different colors and then the threats and card replenishment can start going. Yeah I do realize Dark rituals are used in sibling types of builds like deadguy ale, mono-black and grixies mid-range. And rituals does provide access to some incredibly powerful openings every once in a blue moon - but i gave up on rituals. In my experience comp-a beats many "sibling" brews more often than it looses to them. I think it might be because comp-a's mana is based on permanents - and its card advantage is also slightly better. Ive faced grixies and deadguy ale with comp-a, and i dont think ive ever lost a best of 3 against those archetypes. Its often very close and entertaining matches but comp-a just seems to eventually come up on top the longer the game takes. Now why that is - Im not sure. Your guess is as good as mine. But I think comp-a is perhaps more efficient than those other brews because it goes for permanents as mana ramp and more color splashes over the one-off rituals.
I very much agree. Lately in my robot deck I’ve considered bottle main deck instead because after sb I don’t know if the opponent takes out his Arabian nights cards. But that’s just a detail. Bottle is a great card either in main or sb.
I think I do notice. I take one damage after vise is played (I had 5 cards in hand). I just move the dice for 3 damage total at the same time as I take the 2 damage from the attacking factory - that’s because odd passes the turn immediately after his attack. After that initial damage I draw and play mox and then swords on my own factory in odds turn - putting me below 5 cards for the rest of the match. Should be all good :)
There is no mana burn in the Swedish rules. Now personally I think that’s a shame, because mana burn is part of old school Magic’s experience in my opinion - but thems the rules :)
@@RaVNeFLoK That makes a lot sense then, haha! I think the other instance was Mono Black vs The Deck, so probably wouldn't have mattered much in either case which is kind of interesting. I imagine that makes Mirror Universe a lot worse under Swedish rules?
@@jbc3120 yeah it really does. It can still be used with cities of brass or greed and similar - but one can’t just mana burn oneself and then trade life anymore :)
Thanks buddy! A rematch next time would be fun indeed! Perhaps with two other decks as well. I mostly play live games when I play magic - so It was really nice to get that opportunity here.
I recognize the song playing in the background, what game is it... I have the game and now i need to play it just so i can listen to the soundtrack some more =) (was it from old world?)
@@RaVNeFLoK SORRY i meant when you started playing, so the song is at 12 mins in please lemme know about that one, thanks! I feel like its from old world or endless legend
@@FREEFROMITALL no problem that one is called “Nightsong” and is from world of Warcraft (cataclysm). I have a bunch of other songs I’d love to have on the channel for ambience and nostalgia but many are difficult to find today.
19:05: Big mistake to play the Gloom with the Lotus. He already has the Abyss in Hand. The Gloom does almost nothing at this point preventing Swords and Disenchants against WHAT? That sloppy play costs 10 life.
Agreed. He should had kept both lotus and abyss in hand. I do get the the idea behind gloom+ vise turn 1 but a single Gloom is not usually something comp-a fears because the white splash is light and there’s plenty mana ramp usually to pay for the gloom “tax” on whatever cheap white spell is needed.
I do take damage when he attacks with his factory - I just say it wrong “he comes in for 3”. In reality he comes in for two and I immediately after the attack take a point of damage from black vise at upkeep bringing the total damage up to 3 which is when I flip the dice. Next turn I sword my own factory at his turn bringing me below the black vise threshold. :)
We should all use our own version each others signature decks against each other. I just finished my Timmy's Spellbook! Never thought about what changes I'd make to Composition A...
Hello fellow Old schoolers! Make sure to check out farmstead mtgs point of view in this match: here’s a link to his video:
ruclips.net/video/ewbV1sPYSvU/видео.html
As for time stamps for this video:
Odds deck tech: 01:40
Gandalfs composition-A: 06:00
Round 1 of the match: 10:38.
Have fun!
Love it, I follow both of your channels.
13:56: He plays a Black Vise which you don‘t notice. Taking no damage from it in the next couple of rounds.
I think I do notice. I take one damage after vise is played (I had 5 cards in hand). I just move the dice for 3 damage total at the same time as I take the 2 damage from the attacking factory - that’s because odd passes the turn immediately after his attack.
After that initial damage I draw and play mox and then swords on my own factory in odds turn - putting me below 5 cards for the rest of the match.
That might be correct, but commenting „here he comes for 3“ confuses a lot. You can do better than that. ;-) By the way. Your comments are way better than his. :-) Keep up the good work.
@@HarmonicSliver Lol yes I must have missed the damage from the black vise when I commented on the game and thought the factory did the 3 damage. Which means I remembered the black vise in the game but commented the segment wrongly - no wonder that part was confusing! :D
2 of my favourite old school youtubes in 1 video!
Love these matchups, two great creators go head to head! Amazing!
Good to see composition A back in action. Strong deck.
not see the macht jet, but what an interesting one. Super good and effective brews. Love this chanel Gandalf, please keep it going 👍
Thank you Jesus Lopez! Much appreciated! Strap in for the match - I hope you enjoy it! 😄👍
Great match!
First two games were a bit back an forth, but that third....just brutal.
It was great getting to see you two play though, so cool!! 😁👍
12:25, I can‘t play anything: Do you remember my comment about Fellwar Stone instead of Mox Ruby and Mox Emerald? ;-) It is a turn 2 drop and you play with Sinkhole, Hypnotic Specter, Juzam Djinn and even Underworld Dream’s. After sideboarding it supports BEB, REB and Divine Offering etc. What does a Mox Ruby do in comparison except some speed in rare cases?
I remember - yeah it could be really nice with so many colors - though i really like the moxen for fast juzams and specters as well - its true the stone would mana fix more. Id give it a spin instead of the emerald perhaps?
Why no dark rituals then? The Mox Ruby does not do much after you played a fast Juzam. Thoughts? How often does that happen?
@@HarmonicSliver Well the ruby provide rebs after sb and access to early bolts in some com-a variants. It also provides power plays with ancestral, time walk and geyser. Its good after a draw-7 to continue the turn.
And its a numbers game right? Sometimes comp-a gets in early mana trouble and cant move fast enough because of it - like we saw in round 1 here - it happens but so far its reasonably rare. More often it gets into a position with a lot of mana permanents for different colors and then the threats and card replenishment can start going.
Yeah I do realize Dark rituals are used in sibling types of builds like deadguy ale, mono-black and grixies mid-range. And rituals does provide access to some incredibly powerful openings every once in a blue moon - but i gave up on rituals. In my experience comp-a beats many "sibling" brews more often than it looses to them. I think it might be because comp-a's mana is based on permanents - and its card advantage is also slightly better.
Ive faced grixies and deadguy ale with comp-a, and i dont think ive ever lost a best of 3 against those archetypes. Its often very close and entertaining matches but comp-a just seems to eventually come up on top the longer the game takes. Now why that is - Im not sure. Your guess is as good as mine.
But I think comp-a is perhaps more efficient than those other brews because it goes for permanents as mana ramp and more color splashes over the one-off rituals.
Nice run!
Thanks Portland! - I’m glad you enjoyed the YT’er showdown 🍻
Arabian night realy strong set for old school magic city in the bottle in sideboard is realy good again jinn ferret etc.
I very much agree.
Lately in my robot deck I’ve considered bottle main deck instead because after sb I don’t know if the opponent takes out his Arabian nights cards. But that’s just a detail. Bottle is a great card either in main or sb.
@@RaVNeFLoK null rod main deck to can be good a lot artifact are played.
13:56: He plays a Black Vise which you just ignore for the rest of the game. :-)
I think I do notice. I take one damage after vise is played (I had 5 cards in hand). I just move the dice for 3 damage total at the same time as I take the 2 damage from the attacking factory - that’s because odd passes the turn immediately after his attack.
After that initial damage I draw and play mox and then swords on my own factory in odds turn - putting me below 5 cards for the rest of the match. Should be all good :)
Too good!
Thank you Mateo!
Juzam! Juzam! Juzam!!!
I noticed this in another vid of yours as well and had to ask, when Su-Chi dies the mana isn't being used as far as I can tell so why no mana burn?
There is no mana burn in the Swedish rules. Now personally I think that’s a shame, because mana burn is part of old school Magic’s experience in my opinion - but thems the rules :)
@@RaVNeFLoK That makes a lot sense then, haha! I think the other instance was Mono Black vs The Deck, so probably wouldn't have mattered much in either case which is kind of interesting. I imagine that makes Mirror Universe a lot worse under Swedish rules?
@@jbc3120 yeah it really does. It can still be used with cities of brass or greed and similar - but one can’t just mana burn oneself and then trade life anymore :)
Great match up !!
I really like your channel but I follow both ! So I think a third game is mandatory 😉
How was it to play a fellow youtuber ??
Thanks buddy! A rematch next time would be fun indeed! Perhaps with two other decks as well.
I mostly play live games when I play magic - so It was really nice to get that opportunity here.
I recognize the song playing in the background, what game is it... I have the game and now i need to play it just so i can listen to the soundtrack some more =) (was it from old world?)
When do you mean? I can find the name of the game for you no problem :D
@@RaVNeFLoK the firs tsong that is playing broseph
@@FREEFROMITALL gotcha! thats the main title song from the old and awesome game called Turrican. 🎉
@@RaVNeFLoK SORRY i meant when you started playing, so the song is at 12 mins in please lemme know about that one, thanks! I feel like its from old world or endless legend
@@FREEFROMITALL no problem that one is called “Nightsong” and is from world of Warcraft (cataclysm).
I have a bunch of other songs I’d love to have on the channel for ambience and nostalgia but many are difficult to find today.
19:05: Big mistake to play the Gloom with the Lotus. He already has the Abyss in Hand. The Gloom does almost nothing at this point preventing Swords and Disenchants against WHAT? That sloppy play costs 10 life.
Agreed. He should had kept both lotus and abyss in hand. I do get the the idea behind gloom+ vise turn 1 but a single Gloom is not usually something comp-a fears because the white splash is light and there’s plenty mana ramp usually to pay for the gloom “tax” on whatever cheap white spell is needed.
twice you didnt take any black vice dmg?
I do take damage when he attacks with his factory - I just say it wrong “he comes in for 3”. In reality he comes in for two and I immediately after the attack take a point of damage from black vise at upkeep bringing the total damage up to 3 which is when I flip the dice.
Next turn I sword my own factory at his turn bringing me below the black vise threshold. :)
I challenge you!!!!!
We should all use our own version each others signature decks against each other. I just finished my Timmy's Spellbook! Never thought about what changes I'd make to Composition A...
Ohhoho exciting! :D