Which is the best sports tourer? 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT vs Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX | MCN
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2022
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We're pitching the 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT against the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX in a battle of the conventional sports tourers. It's a two-day shootout, with riders Michael Neeves and Dan Sutherland heading to the Peak District from MCN HQ. Read the full reviews on both bikes below.
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Turn the music down and let's hear the motors.
Ya don't need the manly dick-swinging music...
Agreed 👍
Yes!
I agree with you man
Yep, that’s what I’m talkin’ about.
Good comparison. 3 things keep me on the Kawasaki. The adjustable windscreen, having both headlites on both dim and bright, and the rear shock adjustment is so much easier on the Kawasaki. Add to that at age 72, I did 850 mile ride with friends to the Moto gp race in Austin, Tx several yrs ago. And did it in comfort.
That was in 1 day on the way home the next day after the race.
Nice 👍
@@jamesmiller-sk1xe You sir, are awesome! I hope to that one day with my brother. But a broken Harley and a R1 are hardly the right combo to Austin. Anyway, cheers!
Hats off to you sir. I also ride a Z1000SX but it kills my wrists after 200 miles. Either my riding position is bad or I need bar risers!
You really shouldn’t be putting any weight on your wrists unless you’re doing hard braking. Your legs (downward pressure on the pegs and inward pressure against the tank) and your core (clenching ab muscles) keep your bodyweight off the bars.
These are the types of reviews we want MCN, keep 'm coming!
Really want this category to make a comeback.
The ADV style ones, although practical, just don't have the curb appeal for me.
I ride my bike, not stand on the kerb looking at it.
@@MrBenHaynes there's plenty of bikes that I can ride all day AND look cool as hell. You don't have to pick one or the other.
@@1MrBryn
That's very true. Personally, I buy a bike with both my eyes and my heart. It's gotta be a full package or I simply look elsewhere. In this day and age with so many brands and models available, one doesn't have to settle.
@@mickeypopa I 100% agree. I bought a VFR which did everything I needed on the road but absolutely nothing to my heart when I looked at it. It was only after I'd bought it that I realised how important that was and part exchanged it for a Z900RS which looks stunning to my eyes. But of course I still need a sports tourer😂
@@rochmel1409
Good for you buddy! Glad you found what you were looking for. And don't worry about the sports tourer, a perfect one will eventually come along - you just gotta do the research. 😉
Lovely to see those sport tourers getting a bit of the limelight back. I can't bear ADV bikes and tall-rounders, so it's great to see that some other solutions to the touring/sports riding equation exist.
💯, I actually class the bikes you mentioned as adventure tourers, not sport tourers.
Went from an adv tourer to the Ninja and SO pleased 18 months later...
@@davidfletchfletcher So am I ! I'm much earlier in my ownership of the Ninja and I came from an R Nine T (R1250RS before that) but I'm really pleased thus far. I've tried many tall-rounders, and even rented a 1250GS for a few days but none felt as easy to manage in town and as connected to the road as the Ninja. They're not complete do-it-all machines, but they're really quite good at what they do.
And these two actually look nice unlike every ADV bike out there.
Adventure bikes these days are just 2 wheeled SUVs. Most of them will never even see a drop of rain and are too heavy for offroading anyway.
I’ve just got myself a SX after owning an MT10 after 2 years, also my first sports tourer. Wow, what a bike. Maybe not as bonkers as the MT, but still hits triple figures without trying, handles like a sports bike, buttery smooth and decent wind protection, particularly when you tuck in.
What do you think, better with the inline 4 revs, or the 270° MT-10 torque ?
@@R.Stridstrom Hard to say as they're so different. Town riding and lower speeds I'd say inline 4. The CP4 is very clunky and rough at low revs, rides and sounds like a twin.
However as soon as opened up the MT10, the inline 4 can't compete with the torque and soundtrack.
I do really miss my MT10 and regret selling it.
@@ridingwithsam
Yeah, i know they are completely different. Easier to dose, the regular i4's (as you say, the x-plane 270° crank i4 is like a twin).
I personally like the predictability of regular ones.
It takes off higher up, and i like the howling, but that is my temper speaking, im sure.
The 10 is more brutal, but less civil if you would actually want that. Jumpy.
But fast, you cant really tell how fast unless you look at the guages... It doesnt sound as fast as it is :)
Fun but dangerous on regular roads.
I like the i4 better because of the fact you can choose.
Also i did think i sat a bit high on the 10, than on a Suzuki, for example, much higher center of gravity, noticeable when flicking.
But on the other hand the 10 feels safe, stable, but brutal - a bit schizo if you like.
I get why some love it.
Just curious how you experienced the shift.
A Suzuki S1000 got as much or more grunt a lot of the way, unrestricted, but they are severely restricted on a lot of the gears, and i bet they have made them like they behave by design. Safety reasons or what not.
Euro restrictions possibly, but you could unrestrict them.
If you want more brutality.
Im sure its the same with the Kwak.
@@ridingwithsam interesting...
How do you find the ninja 1000 in the really tight and twisty stuff? Chore to chuck it around?
@@Supernova12034 not at all, it handles its weight very well.
The comparison that the world has been waiting for.
Perfectly agree. Drop by buddy, you may find it interesting.
Absolutely. Terrific bikes and a titanic match up for specs, performance, price
test ride the bike yourself, don't listen to some bullshit on youtube.
@@roadwarrior8560 That is the most practical and useful solution.
@@roadwarrior8560 what prompted the "bullshit" part here? Are you perhaps a happy owner of the Suzuki?
Interesting comments about this bike. I have the Suzuki and have 6500 miles on it and feel I made the right choice. Here is my comments: First off, the front brake pads they came with are absolute Junk! I replaced them at 800 miles along with the tires which I switched to Michlin Road 5 GT tires. That improved the feel for the road, along with better traction and mileage. Front tire still looks like new, but rear is starting to wear in the middle. Probably get Michlin Road 6 standard for next set. Stock seat was horrible. Switched to optional Suzuki "style seat" and all day comfort now. Love it. Windscreen is OK. Tried the touring screen. Hated it, went back to stock, and will probably go to a Puig once they come out. The bike has a very comfortable position for a 6'1" 215 lb rider. I added a tuner to the bike and it made the motor pretty near perfect. unfortunately, you can't buy this tuner, as it couldn't meet the latest standards for emissions. i've gone 155 mph with the bags on, so it's pretty fast for a sport tourer, and that was 5th gear at 1000 rpm under redline. The low end power is great as well as a ferocious top end. It feels a little lighter than the Kawasaki and the suspension is pretty decent although it could be even better. Just a set of EBC HH pads up front made the stock brakes very linear, no abs issues ever, and you can ride in second gear at 100+mph or 6th gear at 65 mph, and the shifter is magic. Up or down, no clutch. A mode is sport bike agressive, and B mode is good for high speed cruising. If I had the money, I would probably get a set of lighter wheels, full exhaust (for weight reduction), a better rear shock, and that would about do it. I use the bags for touring and take them off for sport riding.
Great comparison video. I’m still 100% committed to getting the Suzuki when it come to the US soon. I had the 2016 GSXS naked bike. Put 64k miles on it and can’t wait to get back on a sporty Suzuki
Real world comparison of two most practical & versatile inline four sport tourers!!! Wow have been waiting for it since long time ... its Suzuki for me.!!
Great lunchtime viewing thank you for sharing.
For anyone who cares, I own the 2020 SX and test rode the GSX recently for a couple of hours.
Basically Neeves sums them both perfectly.
Normally, when you try a brand new version of something you own, it will always feel better, newer, posher, etc and leave you with the dilema of 'upgrading'
However, as Michael states, it really felt the other way round. The Ninja is 'refined' whilst the Suzuki felt worn out ..
The only obvious advantage with the GT is that clock/dashboard. Getting back on the Kawasaki the dashboard looked almost comical, but after a few minutes.... who cares.
Excellent filming, INCREDIBLE shots, so well put together! You guys have outdone yourselves again.
More like this please, Dan and Neeves make a great duo.
especially when Neeves stays in the background so to obscure the difference in size between the two 😁
About mid-videi, I found this a very difficult review to follow. "This one" , "that one", "it" and so on with barely noticeable gestures to indicate which bike was being described. If I still cared, I would have to watch at least two more times to follow the comparison. Definitely not a video for just listening while doing other things.
Had every type of hyper naked, sports tour , Harley ,bike etc over past 15 years.. got the ninja sx- first Japanese bike.. my most favorite bike I’ve had-
City commute during the week,
3 hour rides on weekend to weekend home through the mountains.. 6’4 tall, 200 lbs..
no wind buffet, great gas mileage, smooth motor, reliable… first bike I’ve kept over a year… doubt I’ll get rid of for a long time unless they come up with a higher power version..
OMG, wish a Triumph will soon get (back) in this game! The Sprint ST 1050 was so good that we deserve a new gen with the almighty new 1200cc.
Yes! I have a 2005 sprint st 1050 and im passing up r1s and zx10s in the corners all day its awesome! Im exited about the speed rr but its more of a sport bike. You can check the sprints top speed on my channel
@@skylinesquid I know mate, I still own a 2006, still the one with lower clip-ons pre-2007, and it’s still a blast! I sat on a Speed rr but the riding position is too sporty and cramped for my taste. If nothing happens in a couple years I will go for the naked Speed rs, but I still hope for a new Sprint. Unfortunately I can’t bear the upright position of the Tiger adv either.
@@peterfallows6802 i don’t know, ADVs are not my cup of tea, I would never buy a Tiger. Test ridden a few among friends, even tested the “mythical” BMW GS, but nope, me no like! I crave a new proper triple sport tourer, make it a little less “focused” speed rr with a more relaxed riding position and a slightly bigger fairing. Doesn’t matter if it will weigh in a few Kgs more.
I had a 2004 ST and rode that all over the place and had it not been for a car/wall interface, I'd still have it. My mate has a 2007 ST 1050 and it is awesome. I now have a Blackbird but the roll on and the sound of his triple is awesome. All day comfort and performance and incredible sound. No idea why they changed it to the GT which just wasn't as good and no manufacturer makes bikes like that now so these 2 are as close as you can get now. If a new triple ST comes out, I may very well be tempted.
The ST 1050 had many endearing features and was a fantastic charasmatic ride (especially with the trident exhausts!) But reliability and quality let it down for me. Doesn't hold a candle to the Kawa on that front.
I have rode both these bikes and decided to buy the Suzuki, change the tyres and what a difference it will make. In my opinion if you more touring then yes the Kawasaki is the bike, but if like me, you want a sports bike with comfort with the odd trip or two then the Suzuki is the one. The Gixer engine and the short gearbox is what makes the Suzuki rock for the majority of my riding. And unless you pay a grand more the Kawasaki performance model, the sound of the Suzuki stock exhaust wins hands down. Having road the SX1000 for a year, the Suzuki gear box also has the edge in my opinion.
Thanks for another great video. I’ve been waiting to see which would come out tops from you guys 👍
Nice work guys. Love the cinematic shots. Great review of the bikes.
I had a Tracer for 5 years. I test rode the SX and did the deal on the spot. Clearly the SX has been developed over a number of years and have come up with a great package. The quality and finish is just beautiful. The best bike in this category I have ridden and owned.
How is it compared to the tracer? Im thinking about the latest tracer 9 gt and the 1000sx
@@neoretroguy4488 completely different bike. A lot faster and a lot smoother and suits my back a lot more. I sit too straight up on the Tracer. No more adv bikes for me again.
@@concernedcitizen5506 thank you for this comment, I was thinking about either tracer 9 or vstrom 1050xt and you are another person who suffers from back pain when sitting upright on the bike. I had z1000sx and vfr800 and no lower back pain. I tried upright bikes and they didn't work for me. I'm not alone
Cracking review guys!! Exactly what I needed. Love the unbiased feedback on both bikes . Such a hard decision. Cheers from Australia.
been waiting for this one and glad I made a good decision...picked up my new Ninja today 🔥
I'm 25 and almost 26. As much as I like sports bikes these motorcycles are what's it all about . The perfect balance of sport, looks and practicality in one package. Looking at the kawa now but that suzuki looks insane.
outstanding review. Excellent points made. Thank you.
Good effort chaps, excellent review. Keep ‘em coming!
Finally! I was looking forward to this review for a long time.
Great review guys, very well thought out and filmed. Enjoyed it. Not sure I could pick between the two.
Great job guys excellent comparison done over a few days and excellently presented.
Excellent review. Thank you for the time taken to explore them head to head. I just got my Ninja 1000sx two weeks ago and it really is an astonishing blend of smoothness, power, comfort and amazing looks. I previously had a Triumph Sprint ST so the bar was high. Everyone keeps using the word "smooth" to describe the sx. And really that is the only way to describe it. It's so easy to ride at walking speed but then has a point on the throttle where it takes you to huge power and endless acceleration. Everything is just so easy. And I could look at it all day 🙂
Being a Ninja 1000SX (MY 21) owner, agree with you totally!
Endless acceleration with just 140 ponies? 🤨
@@tinsje11 Well it's zero to 200 in 10.something so unless you're often travelling at 250 plus, then yes 140 is more than enough for a sports tourers 😅
Unless you are riding the German Autobahn, 140 horses are plenty good enough to send your driver's license for a months long holidays (in some retard countries even you yourself) 😁
@@tinsje11 ✊🏻💦
Brilliant comparison video, well done!
Keep them coming MCN !!!
Top review, well done ! Greatings from Belgium.
Nice! I’ve been waiting for this video.
Loved watching this review from MCN. Nice to see a Conventional SPORT TOURER comparo, which is now a rare event .Was anticipating a clear hands down win for the Suzuki considering its an all new 2021 product , but am pleasantly surprised to know that the Kawasaki is still the King of the Hill as far as sports touring is concerned....Great Job Kawasaki.
It's always great to have a comparison video with a distinctive answer at the end. 👍
Kudos for actually declaring a winner, instead of the typical cop out we get from many other moto-channels with the "it all depends on what you're looking for" bit.
Thanks guys. I've had a couple of these Kawasakis and you are spot on. (PS Love the way Neevesy always looks absolutely bloody frozen anytime he's not in August or southern Europe.)
Bloody great review lads!
Great, detailed comparison! This is an example how every test or comparison should be done.
Great video, both of these bikes are beautiful. Thanks for a great review.
Thank you for doing this comparison. Great job.
Great review! Thank you very much.
Just test rode both in the last week.. different roads though.
My take on them.. The brakes on the kawsakl feel miles better, the suzuki feels a lot more aggressive putting down the power. The suzuki seemed to have quite a lot more vibration around 5000 rpm. For a tall rider 6ft 5 the suzuki felt a bit better, I think the bars are slightly higher than the kawasaki and just felt more upright on it, however could be resolved with bar risers I suppose. The seat on the Kawasaki more comfortable. The suzuki standard exhaust sounds miles better than the kawasaki. The TFT display on the suzuki is much nicer than the kawasaki.
Did you pick one?
I jump from Versys 650 to Ninja 1000sx and i love it. Little over 10k Miles last season with out problems and i hope will be more that one.
If the Versys was my only option, I wouldn't ride at all. I'd most likely feel the same about any ADV bike....
I just got to demo the 2023 Ninja 1000SX today and was absolutely blown away with how refined and good the bike fit me. Pretty much what these two reviewers were saying seems true to me.
Gr8 comparisons. Ride safe, god bless u both.
I really appreciated and enjoyed an honest review. You spoke true facts. Did not seem like you were trying please both manufacturers. You seem non-biased on honest; a rare trait these days 👍
I bought my first Ninja 1000 in 2015. Having previously owned a VRF I really thought Kawasaki had raised the bar. When the GSXS-F came out a year later I was very impressed but it lacked panniers. I traded my 2015 Ninja in on a 2021 Ninja last year. Oh my has Kawi changed an already stellar bike into a thing of beauty. Refined is the word I would use. Love my Ninja, best bike I have ever owned.
Thanks for sharing this. Nice comparison at the right moment. :)
Great review, Dan and Michael. I'd be hard pressed to choose one or the other but I don't see how anyone could go wrong with either.
Love those videos!!!
Nice review! I'm a Suzuki fan but glad to hear there's a more refined master out there. Request to balance the audio levels please? Had to turn it up to listen to the dulcet tones of the testers and then rush to turn it down for the loud music.
great review as always
Good work, how did they handle other than not liking tyres?
Pannier size difference and wind noise? Any stability differences?
I have a center stand on my sports tourer and yet to ground it, despite spanking it!
Hopefully you can do another long trip when its warm, dry and leaves on the trees.
Stay safe & thanks for trying to keep it fresh.
Great review…. Such great help for people like me who wants to go for sport’s comfy touring 🙏👍👍👍
Thanks for finally making this comparo, which I am sure many people have been waiting for. Curious about one thing; I love the intake sound on the Ninja, how is the GT in comparison?
Informative as usual
This is a very good video both of you guys did a great job on your reviews thanks for all of this information I think I would choose the Kawasaki too
Excellent review boys, would have loved to have seen a “three way” with the XR or RS bmw though, maybe next time
Reviewers, a question.
Suzuki spent time in the wind tunnel making the bike’s bodywork aerodynamic for reduced wind resistance, quieter ride, less wind buffeting, and theoretically protecting the rider’s upper body from rain as well as lower body from water splashing the rider during riding in the wet.
Did the reviewers notice any of these benefits?
How does it compare to the Kawasaki or other sport tourers in this regard?
Thank you.
Isn't this what all makers say?
When it first previewed, they seemed to like the aero package. I'm surprised that despite the lack of adjustable windscreen, not too many complaints about it.
I'm planning on buying the Suzuki. As far as reliability, I'm pretty sure that K5 will be much more trouble free than the Kawasaki.
You're comparing two Japanes bikes. How come there can be more problems with etiher of them compared to german or italian bikes
they did not mention the Auto bilipper and quick shifter at all on Suzuki.
Nice review. My 2007 25th Anniversary VFR is everything ive needed but its a little light for 2 up riding. Did you get to spend any time with passengers?
Great review, one that I have been waiting for. I would like to know how the quick shifter functioned on each bike.
Best and fair comparison of equally good sport tourers......MCN at its very best.....👍
I love the looks of the GSX-S and almost reserved one but was worried about the riding position being a touch cramped in the legs as I'm a lanky bugger. I went for the Tracer 9 GT in the end which I love as it's incredibly comfortable and capable but I still find myself looking longingly at the Suzuki as it's so pretty. 😍
They are formidable comfort-wise. Im 6.2 (187) @ 100kg's.
Probably the best allround mc ever built. On paper at least.
Finally. I’ve been dying to get your opinion on these bikes… 🚀🏍🏍🏍
Hi there, fantastic job, love to see & read Neeves comments on bikes. I’m about to buy the Suzuki, since I’m coming from an VFR 800FI year 2000 with Dunlop MK3, witch I’m a fan of, I’m considering going for Dunlop RoadSmart 4 or Michelin Road 6 190/55 rear, going 1 tooth up from 17 to 18, and changing front master cilinder to Brembo RSC19. What do you thing about this changes? Thank you very much!
I am considering a new motorcycle and the video helped me foresee the features and advantages of each model. I absolutely appreciate the truthfulness of the comparison of both bikes. Must have been a nice ride gentlemen. I went to see both bikes at my local leadership. I rode the Kawee 2020 model and I loved it. I also like the fact that the Suzuki comes with bags and is ready to cross any state line. Yet, I like the overall Ninja package. Decision time... 😁
I have a 2021 1000sx and it is absolutely phenomenal. It does everything very well. I have taken it to the track and kept up with my younger counterparts on their Gixxers, R-1"s and the like. Yes, not as fast and nimble but fast and nimble enough to enjoy a track day and shock others on faster bikes.
Where the bike really shines is the gobs of torque almost everywhere in the rev range. On long rides along the glorious Blue Ridge Parkway in the states, comfort and agility is awesome. The side hard cases are great.
What really took the 1000SX to the next level was replacing the stock exhaust system to a full Akrapovic exhaust system. It shed over 12 lbs of weight and added more than 10% HP and torque with a great exhaust note (not obnoxiously loud but awesome).
Kawasaki has been refining the Ninja 1000 for a long time, and with this bike, they nailed it.....
Since the original release of the GSX-S1000, I've complained about Suzuki not revising gear ratios. Those ratios are straight out of the 2005 GSX-R1000, with zero change. 1st gear is one of the tallest on the planet, and 2 through 6th are all smashed together after that. It's pointless in a big naked bike, and they haven't done a thing with those gear ratios moving over to the GT. It's just laziness by Suzuki. GRIND A FEW NEW GEAR SETS. How hard could it be.
Surprised you guys didn't do a point-to-point comparison of some of the details between these. Vibration, instrument display, clutch action, shifter function, seat comfort/shape, weight, handling neutrality, fuel economy, and silly things like who wins a race between a couple stoplights.
I agree with you. I feel like this was more of a touring comparison and less of a sporty comparison. The gear ratios are a shame, suzuki will likely revise that after a couple generations. Not sure why they couldn't get that done with this overhaul...
@@carterjoseph1475 It's been 6 years. Mostly new 2022 out, no change. Addition of the GT model. No change. They don't have to change the engine cases, clutch cases, shifting mechanism, literally anything else. All they have to do is grind new gear sets and press them on the transmission shafts.
I just purchased the 2020 SX. SWEEEET bike as I'm sure the GT is. I am beyond words as far as the gearing is concerned. ALL THAT MOTOR and running out of gear way way before it runs out of power. I'm genuinely curious WHY ? LIMIT the bike at 150 IDC, just let it cruise where a litre bike SHOULD cruise, not at 4500 rpm and not near halfway to redline. It takes a lot of the fun and feel away. Surprised and glad you mentioned gearing and the GT being geared even slightly shorter. I'd gladly add two teeth to the counter sprocket and take 3 from the rear, but abs and traction control won't function properly and no one has programmed to correct it. Neither company could offer a higher gearing package ? Not everyone likes to cruise easily at that high of an rpm. Totally unnecessary !!!!!!
@@ripvango3489 Gearing cannot be fixed on the Suzuki without the company grinding a new set of transmission gears. The counter shaft sprocket would fix the tall 1st and make it shorter..... and then make 6th gear worse. You could make 6th gear tall and cruisy...... and then make 1st gear impossibly tall. You lose either way you go.
ABS and traction control, if I'm understanding right, function based on wheel speed sensors, not countershaft RPM. ECU flash would fix any codes, issues in that department.
Ninja Z1000SX is geared better but not perfect, and makes fatter torque in the middle. I'd go with the Z1000SX in the sport tourer, and GSX-S1000 in the naked bike. But honestly, I prefer the 850-950cc range naked bikes the most for their versatility and cost. You can tour on them with a little effort.
@@exothermal.sprocket not sure what my comment said, I'm fine with the tall gearing on my 600 GSXR. The gearing on my 2020 Ninja SX is ridiculously low. Bike runs out of gear WAY before it runs out of torque. Nothing I can do about the transmission but I'd happily go way taller on the sprockets. Problem is traction control and abs will not work as accurately or properly as designed. And no one is programing for that change. I'll just live with it.
Great review!
Suzuki have absolutely nailed it with this latest version , Great review the step up in quality of production is noticeable MCN.
If they had nailed it, it would be ahead of the SX in this review
@@lemonjellies4985 Oh BS. Those are two guy's opinions. Give me the GT any day.
Two great bikes. Bought a new 1000 SX when they came out in Jan of 2011. Loved it the 9 years I owned it. Bullet proof and fun bike, although a little heavy. Changed things up and got a T7, very diff bike but I use it differently. Wouldn't hesitate to go back to ninja in a couple years.
Great review small comment less loud music more engine noise lads
Nice review. The Kawasaki seems just that bit more refined & polished. Although seemingly not much wrong with the GT & hopefully Suzuki can get it on par with the Kawasaki in the next year or so. Suzuki best SPORTS tourer & Kawasaki best sports TOURER possibly? Although either way I'm waiting for the Moto Guzzi V100. : )
Probably right.
I’m 5’6 also, had a 2013 and 2017 z1000sx, was excited when the newest version came out, but…. Just too tall, I’d have needed it lowered and that would comprise handling. Had the gsx-s1000f and loved the more powerful engine and lower seat height, increased my slow speed confidence greatly. Hopefully picking up my Reflective Blue at the end of March /start April
probably be more like june/july for the GT due to suzuki not importing them until then
Deciding which one I am going to buy made it just a lot more difficult after watching this very good review. Thanks for leaving me in a pickle 😉
Test ride them then!
Thought the review gave an obvious winner.
Hands down the Kawi it is just more refined and smoother, I would not want the buzzier/peakier Suzuki on the highway but one can play w gearing
I have the 2021 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX in black and I love it what a great review
Excellent video, I was wanting the Suzuki because it looks more appealing to me, but your review has me thinking Kawasaki now.
Excellent! Thank you!
Great video!!!
Well done, gents. Fantastic. 👏
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Just swapped my 2020 Ninja 1000sx for a Ninja H2 sx se, I know price wise it's not comparable but if your budget can stretch that far go try one, it's absolutely amazing. Love my sx and have done a couple of tours on it and loved every minute. The h2 though is just a different class, can't wait to get away on it
Does it handle as nimbly as the 1KSX? Feel as light? Obviously it must smash it in acceleration.
I'm currently on a 2012 SX and let me tell you...HH Sintered pads, ECU Flash by Ivan's Performance, Airbox mod, and a 190/55 rear over the 190/50 makes it an absolute beast of a different bike.
What airbox mod you are talking about
Definitely one of the main reasons I ride is to listen to my motorcycle engine, I absolutely love to hear my engine screaming along.
When I watch reviews it's the same thing, I want to hear the engine noise
I sure don't want to hear that music you have blaring.
Only good thing I can say is it's not bad music but that's not the point, and it's not what I watch a motorcycle videos for.
I want to hear the sound of the motor and the more of it the better. It's really a shame because it's quite a nice video other than that. So one more time turn the music off okay?
I still gave you a thumbs up and enjoyed the video very much.
Very informative.
Good review of two great bikes. Please, a note to the video editor. Please tone down the tunes a little bit so that we can enjoy the sounds of these lovely bikes. I love the center stand on my 2020 FJR1300, plus the shaft drive. However, apparently it will not be manufactured for too much longer. Damn it.
With the Suzuki, you're pretty much getting a GSXR frame/engine. With Ninja that's simply not the case, e.g., its rear swingarm is not from the ZX10R and looks rather weak. No wonder it's not as sporty as the GT.
Great comparison. I daily commute on a 2021 Ninja 1000SX, and I agree- the number one adjective I would use to describe it is "smooth," followed by "refined." For my daily commuting and sporty, multi-day touring, it is almost perfect.
I am glad to see the new Suzuki introduced, as practical sportbikes with luggage make the world a better place.
I am also the happy owner of the Ninja in Tourer version (would never "waste" money on a can) and I agree with what you say, but I have caught myself thinking "perhaps a bit boring in its near perfection .."
@Drew Miller, would you say the KawasaKi is a good bike for a newish rider who's been riding for a year in a 500cc adv bike? How is the comfort in longer rides? Thanks
@@HallaghanH The comfort on long rides is very good, with a comfortable seat and OK wind protection, cruise control, upright seating position.
Regarding moving up from a 500cc ADV bike to this, it might be OK or it might be a bit of a stretch depending on your type of riding and experience level. I think that it is a very, very easy motorcycle to ride, and very smooth, with multiple ride modes to get up to speed. That said, it will be significantly faster and most likely heavier/wider than the any 500cc adventure bike.
That said, I think that it is worth a test ride! Cheers
@Drew Miller thank you so much for your explanation, I truly appreciate. I'll give it a test ride!
@@HallaghanH so, did you buy?
A great 6 months of ownership on a bike review. Thank you. As I have owned and parted ways with in roughly similar intervals, are there any bikes upon reflection you wished you had kept ( at least considering what they now sell for?). I’ll give just one example from my own experience as I purchased a brand new 916 Ducati within 12 months for release (I had traded in a 6 month old Suzuki GSXR-750. The Ducati (note I was racing also at the time in the Australian 250 cc production class so I new how to set up a bike correctly for myself) was simply a “hot dog” of a thing to ride. Living in Melbourne we get temp ranges from below 0’C to 44’C and apart from the overwhelming heat, it just didn’t handle, regardless what I did and also my race mechanics did, could never get the thing to turn in and hold lines anywhere near as good as the WSB equivalent Suzuki platform. So, after 3 moths it went a I finally purchased what was in my opinion the best bike for brisk street riding at the time. The be Fireblade, well before it feel into any racing category. On reflection, if I had kept all three then I’d be sitting on bikes that are worth more today than when brand new. 🤔👍😎🇦🇺
I didn’t want to hear those results but, I’m glad I did.
@MCN whats your take on how the standard bearers of the category - the Connie 1400 & FJR1300 compare to these new kids on the block? I'd kinda like to see a 4-way shootout between the C14, FJR, s-GT+, and SX SE...
great review as always Lads. So, thoughts on how the NT1100 lines up against these two? So great to see the proper sport tourer segment hitting up again!
The NT1100 is a fine choice - for those more than 70 years old 🤣
@@nickthequick NT1100 is so bland in comparison to these two !. I've owned mainly Kawasaki's for years but have the Suzuki on order. The comments in this review are fair - Kawasaki has been around for ages so has naturally evolved. Suzuki looks good out of the crate and will now doubt improve over time.
@@nickthequick LOL :-) Well I have a v4s track bike and my street riding is more subdued, and I love that Honda engine :-) And while I'm not 70, I am closer to 60 than 40 :-)
I have a 21 plate ninja 1000 and test rode the Africa Twin 1100 and NT1100 the other day. The NT1100 is so bland that it was back at the dealership within 20 minutes. There is no comparison to the Ninja 1000 they are worlds apart. The AT dct is a potential for me only because of the ride position but when getting back on the N1k the smoothness feels like luxury.
Thank you for this! Been waiting. These two (and one more) are at the top of my list for purchase. The other - which you guys wrote off because of tire size(?!) - did not get compared, the Tracer 9 GT. It's got 17s F&R, and though the seating position is (apparently) more upright, testers seem to not know how to categorize it; though it's CLEARLY not an adventure bike. But let's be real: it's in the same category with 17s, more standard features appropriate for touring, and - when equipped similarly - is about the same price. I think it all comes down to fit and slightly different personal priorities and riding needs. All brilliant. None would be a disappointment. For the S1000GT, Road 5s, another tooth, maybe different pads...the choice would be much harder. In the US:
1000SX, add touring pack @ $1400, $14,300 total
S1000GT+ (includes touring kit), Road 5s ($500), sprocket ($100), $14,400
9 GT (already optioned-up), $14,999
@HahrtDood Thanks for this! When my local dealers have stock, I'll give them a go. All great bikes, just have to see how they fit, and how they resonate with the things we like/don't like.
The 9GT would probably edge it for me although it’s be a fight between it and the Kawasaki
Great analogy! Like being in a rowing position 👍
I’ve been looking for an upgrade from 1997 bandit 1200. I like having a small bodied sport tourer as compared to something like the Kawasaki concours or Yamaha fj. I’m really liking both of these bikes. It’ll be tough to decide which one I will choose. May wait a year or so to see what updates Suzuki does after some time on the road.
Really good comparison video. It's the Suzuki for me.
Thanks Lyn!
Great review ….loving my 21 plate ninja 1000 performance touring edition , hands down best bike I’ve owned in 30 years of riding. Suzuki looks nice through, maybe in a gen or two will be a worthy adversary
Had a chance to ride both of these bikes at Daytona last week and I have to say this review is actually spot on. Kawi was much more polished and I was impressed with just about everything. Suzuki also a great bike but quality doesn’t match the Kawi and the the brakes are way number than they should be for such a great engine.
My two favourite MCN road testers. Great review guys but I'd guessed the result before watching the video based on emotional feelings only. I've never had a Suzuki make my, well let's say make my feel good in a special way.
Nice job guys 👍
Loved the "tell me a out the tyres" comment at the end 😂
Nice review, looks like the kawasaki wins hands down.
Is there any chance we can get a comment (or demonstration) on the headlight performance?
Michael and Dan you should make more videos together! What about Gixer and ZX10? Or ktm 1290 super duke gt and kawasaki h2 sxse