Coalminers daughter here👋. My Da died at 63 years of age from pit related illnesses and yet he fought for his job and for his community. A community that is now in tatters, we are now reaping the trash that is thatchers legacy. RIP Da, my Hero❤
And that is very sad but do you think that the economy should just support failed industries indefinitely? We get coal cheaper from Poland and South America etc
A British industry supporting British workers. There were plenty of mines that were still making a profit, the miners showed that with Tower Colliery @@mincemead2027
@@MarkHarrison733 Shoooosh, don’t let my coal fire hear you say that! I toast my feet at it every night and before you go off on one about climate change, you give up your car and I will give up my coal fire. 🔥 Braw, better than therapy and cheaper, you’ve never lived!
@@dingopisscreek the union executive is elected by the membership and has a right to call a strike. All members in mines shortlisted for closure got a ballot. It is not the place of miners whose jobs were not threatened to vote on strike action at closing mines.
Lovely man & that wonderful deep Welsh accent is so nice on the ear. Whatever your views, Thatcher turned this island into a low wage low skill society & the legacy is clear, the British state has deluged this island with East European labour who don't mix & send as much of their earnings as possible. out of this economy. I don't blame them. however, I have a complete contempt & disdain for the corporate run British state & how they have ripped the heart & soul out of this island. Shameless, selfish people who would never ever want their off-spring working as skilled manual workers but are determined to cut tradesmen earnings for their personal greed & gratification.I am a Scot who works as an electrician in London & we were earning the same in 2008 as we are now where sites are often 90% East Europeans due to decades of no investment in apprenticeships. The corporate financiers are truly dreadful people & a cancer on humanity, they created a large underclass that has existed since the 1980's that never works & deluged with drugs & hopelessness.
Thank you . Its important that these stories are kept alive so future generation know what these people had to go through to try and save their communities .
Our communities are English greek and turkish now... they wont be the same but the mines or an equivalent will be reinstated now that gentrification has filled the valleys again..
My father worked in st John's in maesteg !!! then he got taken up to glyncorrwg after getting trapped and hurt by a rockfall under ground in st John's. I am a Baitup and my father was called "Mel Baitup" . He was young and was learning to be an explosives man till the collapse, it squashed his friend too . I wonder if any of you can remember that ??? He must've been down there in the 60 maybe . Wish I knew more about that era of his life . I also wish I could see where he worked back then because he said to me that it was the most scary and dangerous place he'd ever been to work. In south pit glyncorrwg he worked above ground in the offices and was the man who came around to see how much coal you've pulled out of the ground. If any of his friends had a bad week and didn't bring much up he'd lie and say they brought up more coal so their pay wasn't lessened .
One reason that failed to get the support they expected, was that they tried to 'force' workers in other areas from working. By whatever means they could. It was not a 'stone' it was a bloody lump of concrete targeted at the car, no 'accident ' 🤬 It is amazing how at the time they had no issues with being 'hard men' but now they are claiming to be sweet innocent that would not hurt a fly.
It had nowt ti dae wi us...he said.....he has forgotten that the Welsh Miners came up north to wor pits in Northumberland and Durham,before we had wor ballot..it seems he can remember wat suits him best!.. and bugger the rest of us!
The UK embraced socialism after WW2. Labour created the NHS and nationalised the Steel & Mining industry because they were not economically viable. The unions in these industries constantly striked for higher wages due to high inflation. Governments generally conceded to the wage demands. by 1976 the game was up.The UK was broke.The IMF gave the biggest loan ever (at that point) $3.9 billion. to the UK. 8 years later the Miners went on strike because they wanted the taxpayer to bail out uneconomic mines. the UK was still broke. Germany used the Marshall plan money to replace heavy industry with light industry making consumer goods. Britain used the marshall money for bailouts thus kicking the can down the road.When the cash ran out Maggie was in power. Port talbot is the final casualty of can kicking.
So may I ask where is this show of force now against the every Saturday supporters of hamas? Conspicuous by there absence I would think. Sorry I digress I live down under so I didn't know about this strike breaking hence the beginning of my comment. still relative though me thinks considering the UK at the moment, born there my parents brought me and my brother out here to Australia as ten pound poms, I will forever be indebted 2 them for that. Born in Willington quay Newcastle on Tyne hospital according 2 my birth certificate think that makes me Welsh? Always remember my grandfather he was a coal miner here in the South Bulli Colliery - Illawarra Coal near Wollongong NSW pits and after a few he sang in welsh or I think it was.
@@KeithWilliamMacHendry Wilson was confirmed to have been a Soviet agent, like Foot and McGahey. It's why he enabled genocide in Biafra, and betrayed Rhodesia.
All these crocodile tears for the miners make me laugh. The whole industry would now be being aggressively closed down by the same people who are shedding them for 'green' reasons. Mining was a dirty and dangerous job that killed people long before the time - including my great grandfather, some of his brothers and some of their children. My grandfather joined the army to avoid this awful fate.
Thatcher was fighting for a certain demographic of the country and was happy to leave the rest rot away. These mining communities are still suffering all the years later .
Perhaps, but why bring coal from the other side of the world, with that carbon footprint? It was usually poor quality coal whereas anthracite was part of the South Wales coalfield. The plain fact is that all the pits were closed, and the various businesses that fed on their income collapsed, but no money was put into the areas of the UK. McGregor actually fell asleep during a coal board meeting and he was imported to oversee the NCB. Then the steel industries went and a wasteland was created. Do you really expect the miners to celebrate Thatcher? Our other industries were destroyed on her watch when we became a 'Service' economy. There has been no proper industrial plan for the UK. BTW, Germany is using coal in coal fired power stations. They invested instead of phasing coal out. Just look at Tower Colliery as an example.
That's not right. We all knew the NUM would have another go at the Tories and the Tories knew that too, it was very obvious. When Arthur Scargill took over from Joe Gormley the script was written and we all gave a half worried chuckle. Joe Gormley was an old fashioned Trade Unionist, the deal was the thing, and he got a good deal from Thatcher just before leaving. Scargill was a revolutionary, he wasn't interested in a deal he wanted to destroy the Thatcher Government just as the Heath Government has been destroyed. And never mind the damage to industry and wages that the 3 day week and the blackouts had caused. In short, who was the enemy of the miners? Scargill was his name.
Indeed. For 200+ years the wealth and power of Britain came from people like this working under everyone's feet. Now that's Saudi wealth and other foreign nationalized entities, and foreign private interests that also wanted money for nothing. It was inevitable and things probably should have been handled differently by everyone, but at the end of the day, people need to work, and ideally not as serfs working for nothing. Do you understand economics?
Coalminers daughter here👋. My Da died at 63 years of age from pit related illnesses and yet he fought for his job and for his community. A community that is now in tatters, we are now reaping the trash that is thatchers legacy. RIP Da, my Hero❤
And that is very sad but do you think that the economy should just support failed industries indefinitely? We get coal cheaper from Poland and South America etc
A British industry supporting British workers. There were plenty of mines that were still making a profit, the miners showed that with Tower Colliery @@mincemead2027
@@straighttothepointuncut9995 The coal industry had steadily declined in the UK since 1910.
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.
@@MarkHarrison733 Shoooosh, don’t let my coal fire hear you say that! I toast my feet at it every night and before you go off on one about climate change, you give up your car and I will give up my coal fire. 🔥 Braw, better than therapy and cheaper, you’ve never lived!
Solidarity to the former mining communities of South Wales from Yorkshire. Old bonds never forgot ✊
@@dingopisscreek the union executive is elected by the membership and has a right to call a strike. All members in mines shortlisted for closure got a ballot. It is not the place of miners whose jobs were not threatened to vote on strike action at closing mines.
@@dingopisscreek Scargill knew he would lose a ballot.
Lovely man & that wonderful deep Welsh accent is so nice on the ear. Whatever your views, Thatcher turned this island into a low wage low skill society & the legacy is clear, the British state has deluged this island with East European labour who don't mix & send as much of their earnings as possible. out of this economy. I don't blame them. however, I have a complete contempt & disdain for the corporate run British state & how they have ripped the heart & soul out of this island. Shameless, selfish people who would never ever want their off-spring working as skilled manual workers but are determined to cut tradesmen earnings for their personal greed & gratification.I am a Scot who works as an electrician in London & we were earning the same in 2008 as we are now where sites are often 90% East Europeans due to decades of no investment in apprenticeships. The corporate financiers are truly dreadful people & a cancer on humanity, they created a large underclass that has existed since the 1980's that never works & deluged with drugs & hopelessness.
Thanks for posting. I recognise and resonate with many of the sentiments touched on as part of the cousin Jack Tin mining community brethren.
Thank you . Its important that these stories are kept alive so future generation know what these people had to go through to try and save their communities .
Beautiful short film, I love the period pieces and views of Barrow!
3:58
Very well said sir...
And unfortunately the battle is still
raging..
4:42
spot on
Our communities are English greek and turkish now... they wont be the same but the mines or an equivalent will be reinstated now that gentrification has filled the valleys again..
17:04
scargill dupped the miners
19:00 theres a truth for everyone
Thatcher and her mate David Hart split the miners union
Scargill refused to allow a national ballot.
My father worked in st John's in maesteg !!! then he got taken up to glyncorrwg after getting trapped and hurt by a rockfall under ground in st John's. I am a Baitup and my father was called "Mel Baitup" . He was young and was learning to be an explosives man till the collapse, it squashed his friend too . I wonder if any of you can remember that ??? He must've been down there in the 60 maybe . Wish I knew more about that era of his life . I also wish I could see where he worked back then because he said to me that it was the most scary and dangerous place he'd ever been to work. In south pit glyncorrwg he worked above ground in the offices and was the man who came around to see how much coal you've pulled out of the ground. If any of his friends had a bad week and didn't bring much up he'd lie and say they brought up more coal so their pay wasn't lessened .
One reason that failed to get the support they expected, was that they tried to 'force' workers in other areas from working. By whatever means they could.
It was not a 'stone' it was a bloody lump of concrete targeted at the car, no 'accident ' 🤬
It is amazing how at the time they had no issues with being 'hard men' but now they are claiming to be sweet innocent that would not hurt a fly.
Did they all hurl that lump? Or are you hurling the lump of concrete in your throat at all of them?
It had nowt ti dae wi us...he said.....he has forgotten that the Welsh Miners came up north to wor pits in Northumberland and Durham,before we had wor ballot..it seems he can remember wat suits him best!.. and bugger the rest of us!
The UK embraced socialism after WW2. Labour created the NHS and nationalised the Steel & Mining industry because they were not economically viable. The unions in these industries constantly striked for higher wages due to high inflation. Governments generally conceded to the wage demands. by 1976 the game was up.The UK was broke.The IMF gave the biggest loan ever (at that point) $3.9 billion. to the UK. 8 years later the Miners went on strike because they wanted the taxpayer to bail out uneconomic mines. the UK was still broke. Germany used the Marshall plan money to replace heavy industry with light industry making consumer goods. Britain used the marshall money for bailouts thus kicking the can down the road.When the cash ran out Maggie was in power. Port talbot is the final casualty of can kicking.
Marshall Aid created the NHS.
The Attlee government began the privatisation of the NHS.
Port Talbot is closing due to net zero.
I contracted at coal board mines. In my experience there are no better people.
You can hear kierons voice lol. If that's definitely Mr gibbons lol.
10:24 roger waters from pink Floyd wrote an album about billy and Johnny (i think thats their names) the boys who threw the brick at a taxi.
Waters is a lifelong anti-Semite, like Scargill.
So may I ask where is this show of force now against the every Saturday supporters of hamas? Conspicuous by there absence I would think. Sorry I digress I live down under so I didn't know about this strike breaking hence the beginning of my comment. still relative though me thinks considering the UK at the moment, born there my parents brought me and my brother out here to Australia as ten pound poms, I will forever be indebted 2 them for that. Born in Willington quay Newcastle on Tyne hospital according 2 my birth certificate think that makes me Welsh? Always remember my grandfather he was a coal miner here in the South Bulli Colliery - Illawarra Coal near Wollongong NSW pits and after a few he sang in welsh or I think it was.
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.
The Soviet agent Wilson closed twice as many coal mines.
Soviet agent.......😆🤣😂 Get a real job daftie. No evidence worthy of name because he wasn't a Soviet agent.
@@KeithWilliamMacHendry Wilson was confirmed to have been a Soviet agent, like Foot and McGahey.
It's why he enabled genocide in Biafra, and betrayed Rhodesia.
All these crocodile tears for the miners make me laugh. The whole industry would now be being aggressively closed down by the same people who are shedding them for 'green' reasons.
Mining was a dirty and dangerous job that killed people long before the time - including my great grandfather, some of his brothers and some of their children. My grandfather joined the army to avoid this awful fate.
Bollocks. Dennis Healy and Roy Jenkins shut more pits than Maggie ever did
Here’s to the British MINERS: ruclips.net/video/HWIuuAaIukY/видео.html
The Miners were fighting for their communities, Thatcher was fighting for the country, no contest.
Thatcher was fighting for a certain demographic of the country and was happy to leave the rest rot away. These mining communities are still suffering all the years later .
@@GibbonsTalksBoxing Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.
@@GibbonsTalksBoxing And the nation as a whole...she was an whore of greed and lies.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw The power station 2 miles from me still runs on coal. Imported coal, while there's years worth still under my feet.
Perhaps, but why bring coal from the other side of the world, with that carbon footprint? It was usually poor quality coal whereas anthracite was part of the South Wales coalfield. The plain fact is that all the pits were closed, and the various businesses that fed on their income collapsed, but no money was put into the areas of the UK. McGregor actually fell asleep during a coal board meeting and he was imported to oversee the NCB. Then the steel industries went and a wasteland was created. Do you really expect the miners to celebrate Thatcher? Our other industries were destroyed on her watch when we became a 'Service' economy. There has been no proper industrial plan for the UK. BTW, Germany is using coal in coal fired power stations. They invested instead of phasing coal out. Just look at Tower Colliery as an example.
That's not right. We all knew the NUM would have another go at the Tories and the Tories knew that too, it was very obvious.
When Arthur Scargill took over from Joe Gormley the script was written and we all gave a half worried chuckle.
Joe Gormley was an old fashioned Trade Unionist, the deal was the thing, and he got a good deal from Thatcher just before leaving. Scargill was a revolutionary, he wasn't interested in a deal he wanted to destroy the Thatcher Government just as the Heath Government has been destroyed. And never mind the damage to industry and wages that the 3 day week and the blackouts had caused.
In short, who was the enemy of the miners? Scargill was his name.
Does anyone understand market economics or is it just I want money and don’t understand where and why that comes from
Indeed. For 200+ years the wealth and power of Britain came from people like this working under everyone's feet. Now that's Saudi wealth and other foreign nationalized entities, and foreign private interests that also wanted money for nothing. It was inevitable and things probably should have been handled differently by everyone, but at the end of the day, people need to work, and ideally not as serfs working for nothing. Do you understand economics?
A country that only operates on market vales is a very selfish country .