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How to Mix Metal Drums - With Included Plugins | Spectre Sound Studios Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- Checking out how to mix a real drumset with absolutely no samples, using only the included plugins in Cubase!
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I'm Glenn Fricker, engineer here at Spectre Sound Studios. I love making records, and after doing it for sixteen years, I want to pass on what I've learned. On my channel you can find tutorials on how to record guitar, bass, real drums and vocals. There's reviews and demos of tube amps, amp sims, drums, mics, preamps, outboard gear, Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar, and plugin effects.
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“Let’s just get a little bit of high-end” *12db shelf boost*
Glen Fricker does not do subtlety! 🤘🏼
Most rock/metal mix engineers don't play it safe and thrash the high end on drums.
Who says it needs to be subtle?
It doesn’t matter if you boost or cut or by how much once everything is set relatively it’s just level after that. There’s a good video on it floating around somewhere. But some people do go crazy with the curves. I prefer smaller moves just so I don’t have to compensate for the level so much.
Great.....except I’m working on a jazz mix.....with no drums.
This is what I have been looking for.
@LocrianLivesMatter Djazz :D
Blasts fix everything
Me as well. This will help tremendously!
LocrianLivesMatter As funny as that is, there was a jazz drummer who used double kick drums. I don't know why.
Chris Wilson lmao
Holy fuck Glenn, the more I watch your mixing stuff, the less I wanna play music and the more I want to produce and mix, it's fucking GREAT. Thanks for the video as always and much love from Sweden! (HM-2 land)
Check out "Nail The Mix",it's about £15 a month, but IS A FU***NG GOLDMINE of information, resources and community. Seriously, do it. You're welcome :)
He's using Cubase! Now I and maybe 50 other people can follow along. Today's a good day.
Finest kind!
It doesn't matter though. Follow the principles and you'll be able to use everything :)
Dude, if you're unable (or unwilling?) to translate the IDEAS and CONCEPTS from one DAW to another... You've got bigger concerns, i think :P
@@khronscave I was more kind :p
@@PaschalisI I know, but some people might react better to a wake-up call - why not cover all the (cu)bases? x)
Thanks for doing a Cubase video Glenn! Cubase is so often overlooked in how-to vids, and this one is really helpful
Welcome to Cubase ( angelic choral chords a blazing ) As a cubase user for years it's nice to see you using a DAW my eyes are familiar with =}
Ahhh nucking fice!
Finally a Cubase Episode 😍
I don't get why people dislike cubase. It's easy to learn and it's amazing especially for live instrument recording and mixing.
Great video Glenn.
There are people who dislike Cubase??
When I first started recording and mixing music I got Cubase 9 lite included with some recording gear. I tried it but I didn't record a single thing with it because I couldn't figure out how it worked. Then I got Reaper and suddenly everything became easy and intuitive. One year later I decided to try Cubase again because I still had it on my pc. And again, despite a year of experience with reaper, I still didn't understand how it worked.
I guess Cubase just isn't for everyone...
(Keep in mind I was very much a beginner so this might have had something to do with it)
I used to use Cubase for many years. But move onto Reaper because it runs a lot faster loads plugins quicker and is less bloated. I also like programming some of my own plugins in js. Interesting to see Glen moved onto Cubase. When did this happen or does he still use both?
@@miked5487 I think it's just for this video.
cubase has a strange workflow that it prefers users grow into, from what i can tell. its definitely nice to already have very common plugins like EQs already loaded up, but the multiple windows, panels, and views for the same functions of the DAW can be confusing
Would you ever consider live streaming a mixing session? That way people could ask questions while you work.
Dude Glenn I just posted on your RUclips video yesterday about this specific topic asking for a tutorial! Thanks dude!!!! Suoer awesome! You coverd this topic.
Perfect intro... my drums only EVER sounded like the first example...
So happy to see you working with Cubase Glenn. it's my first DAW (aside from mixcraft) and i see no reason to change. a friend tried to get me to switch to reaper, which i tried out and was fine, but not worth changing to. i had to start watching URM videos just to learn how to use cubase better (as well as their awesome mixing ideas) because they're the only youtubers that routinely use this amazing DAW that gets overlooked so much for the free reaper, and the often elitist protools (which to me just looks like chaos and is pretty undecipherable).
anyway- great tips and really fun to watch your effortless workflow in this great DAW. i really enjoyed this video!
If you want to see more Cubase videos, check out the Chris Selim - Mixdown Online RUclips channel. He recently released a Cubase course too.
Damn, watched this and a lightbulb lit up, restarted the drum mix I've been working on using this as a guide, and there it is! Thank you!
Happy to help!
This channel is a wealth of info. I looked up the 1176 limiter that you mentioned and realized that one of my go-to compressor/limiter plugins that I use for drums (and bass) is an emulator of that piece of equipment. Been doing this for years as a working mans hobby and never in a pro sense, so I had to pat myself on the back for having used it on my own in the same way without ever being taught to do so. By the way, at 16:04 you say "low pass" but I think you meant "high pass" as you are cutting the lows. I still have a ton to learn, but this video and a couple of others have given me a huge boost in the right direction... --techniques that would likely have taken me years to discover if I ever found them at all. This is my new fav channel and I subbed and joined the horde. Just wanted to say thanks man
At last! I've been waiting for this for a long time! I've been using Cubase for a bunch of years now and finally! A metal drum tutorial from Glenn! Thank you!
Bear in mind that the filter you are using on the far left of the equalizer window is pre inserts. That fucked me over quite a bit on ampsims a couple of times until i realised that pre in fact means PRE :D You can set the 1st and 4th band of the eq to high and low pass with clicking the little picture right from "1 LO" and "4 Hi". Also you should really set up the control room if you haven't already. The listen button alone makes it worth it!
You can always change that low shelf to a parametric. That has been an option in Cubase for a while. The same thing goes for the high shelf. It has a drop down menu that allows you to choose different styles of shelf or parametric. I'm sure by the time you read this you will have figured that out. But just thought I would throw it your way. I've been a Cubase user since the Le days.
class begins. let me grab my cans.🎧 most informative lunch ever! thanks professor with a PHD in metal!🍻
Even your raw tracks sound great! Great job!
"Get it right on the way in" (to the DAW), The only absolute golden rule of audio production.
Those drums were recorded here at Strata! :) - Jackson
It's really cool to see you so stoked about cubase. I've started on cubase, have used mixbus and pro tools too but I keep coming back to cubase as I find it the most overall complete DAW. Happy to see you finally getting to use it. Cheers Glen and Vaffanculo from Italy
This was the most informative drum mixing video I've ever seen. Keep it up!
This is the best drum mix video/tutorial you will find on the internet. Stop what you are doing, get out of the comments section, and watch this 7 more times. Also hit the favorite button so you never lose this video.
Part two on Monday Monday!
Thank you so much Glenn! As a user of Cubase, and as someone who uses the stock plug ins to mix drums, I learned a few little tricks in here! Looking forward to the next episode! I'm glad someone else appreciates them too!
Really great quick and straight to the point mixing course! Great job Glenn.
Cool Episode. Have fun with cubase. I really love it since 14 years now.
So perfect timing. Yesterday was the first time I recorded a drummer!!!!
i've used cubase since cubase 5 and i must admit the workflow is great. It outright creams all other daw's when it comes to MIDI editing/programming
Hmm. That 2nd sentence makes me wonder if you've never seen/used FL Studio.
@@qwertyasdf66 Yes i have, i prefer to rewire into FL Studio - the plug ins and instruments are excellent however i still prefer the midi editor in cubase
@@bobellison4868 Is that with cubase as the rewire host or client?
@@qwertyasdf66 cubase as the host FL as the slave. you can still use all the excellent automation channels and curves that FL does too.
Not mixing myself, but I could listen to the mixing process all day long on my monitors. It`s kinda hypnotic ;-)
Thanks Glenn! I have been using Cubase since I got my first four channel audio interface a couple years ago and appreciate it when I find useful advice from a fellow Cubase-Head as well. I'm excited about the next video!
The massive snare boost to pull the tin sound out of it must be how they kept the entire St Anger album
Hey, I didn't know you liked Cubase, man. That's what I use :). I think this is a super interesting, super useful and super educational video. Maximum information. Minimum BS. 11/10.
To have a part 3 of this series being drums + bass would be the best thing ever!
I love cubase tbh! Used it since version 5 now on 10 its amazing since day 1.
Finally the Cubase family is getting some love
Should I remind you that Cubase always had that kind of workflow for each track since....I don't know...version SX, which came out in 2001. The only thing that changed is the looks. A major improvement happened when they decided to steer away from the Pro Tools-esque "everything is a window" workflow.
This is awesome but I'd honestly like to see a video about mixing tracks that aren't as well-recorded as these. I've been doing mixes on a bands album recently where I've resorted to using samples alongside the live tracked drums because there was so much mic bleed and nobody bothered to attenuate the sub-kick so it sounded like a floppy distorted mess. It was the only way I could get definition without compromising the overall sound of the drums. The importance of tracking it right can't be understated, but sometimes when I get a mixing gig, that's simply not a choice within my locus of control
Wow I didn't even realize how much I needed this. I've been needing something to give me a clue on what's been going wrong with my drum mixes. Thanks Glenn!
Thanks Glenn , Cubase 10 Rules, I've been using Cubase since the 90's, tried everything else, nothing has swayed me, cool tips man thanks \m/
I love Cubase! Glad you finally got onboard, Glenn! Great Video!
Now THIS is relevant to me!! I'm a Cubase 8 user (might be time to upgrade, I really like that channel strip interface!!) and this is all familiar territory!! Also don't kid yourself, the process is'nt just for metal... The tones might not be what I'd go for in my blues rock band, but the tought process is basically the same!! Now, I just can't wait till the day at work is over so I can try this at home!!!
Great video! Thanks for using terms like "thump" "boxy" and "honk"! Also, explaining the adding input but lowering output and WHAT you are actually trying to hear, with the compressor. 👍👍 Great video.
Is this greatest drum mixing ( tutorial) everrrrrrr??????? + free?????????
Thanks Glenn you fucking rock man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I did watch a lot of video for mixing drum but this one is my number one. I will keep this video in my bookmark. This is a big help for me. Nice work
It's hard to make that sound bad, great recording and performing! Thanks for that "secret"!
Wow, perfect timing. I've been working on my drum mixing skills at the moment and here you drop this. Even though I use Logic, I always appreciate these sort of tutorials, as there's always good insight and something new to learn.
Cakewalk is now free and has all these tools in their Pro-Channel strip. Including SSL and Neve bus/channel emulation.
Great job Glenn! Everytime I hear something you mix, the experience definitely shows.
This is one of the best mixing tutorials for drums, that I've ever seen. Thanks a lot!
14:15 - "We've got a Mexican troll!"
Hey Glenn, I think this was probably your best video in a while. I noticed some of the things you didn’t even specifically mention to be actually quite helpful. The way you zero’d in on the snare honk was great. Usually I have to scoop until it works. Never thought of exaggerating it beforehand. Might seem simple but very helpful. Any other small things like that that could make life easier for all of us? Cheers from NY.
yes, yes, and more yes!. i need more of this kind of content glenn. yes, please.
Fat channel on presonus is a great plugin for that "everything you need right there" took me a while to start loading that instead of a g of individual stuff. It's really cool.
Thank you so much. This exacly the kind of video I like to watch. I learn so much when seeing other pro mixer do what they do best.
Thanks again, you ROCK
Good call with the stock plugins. So many people get hung up on buying expensive plugins instead of just learning the basics.
Another cool video. If you want to do something different that quite a few people would like to see is doing a mix using an iPad with Auria Pro. I am sure you will freak out completely how good it is. I’m not trying to get the world into using iPads instead of laptops, but it’s a great thing because of the portability. You can have your entire mixing studio stuff, including monitors, interface, everything, in a backpack. Just an idea. Others have done it but not anyone as professional and experienced as you. Thanks again for your videos. I enjoy them and learn at the same time. I see you aren’t screaming as much. Are you mellowing in old age. I already mellowed, but I am really old. Have fun.
This translates over to LOGIC so very easily so if you're a LOGIC person this is super easy to follow.
Thank you, Glenn! I will definitely be revisiting this at some point in the future.
Nice to see a video on Cubase right when I'm transitioning to an upgraded daw. I've been a Cubase user for 12 years but was put off upgrading to 10 based on their advertising. Seemed like they had a tectonic shift over the years from being about raw production to something flashier and less practical. Where was Glenn when Steinberg was making their advertisements?
It is so funny to see Glenn peacefully teaching how to mix drums like the bob ross of metal. So much different from the screaming about debunking dumb metal head mistakes and ideas
FREAKING NICE! I just started regularly recording and mixing live drums and the stock reaper plugins have been great, but left a little bit to be desired. This was great! Cheers Glenn :)
Finally...welcome to the best DAW out there!
I'm working for a nice kit and a recording setup. Trying to learn all this stuff and this helped me so much! I made notes and everything. You sure help me get this down bless you man!
Perfect timing. I'm about to start mixing my bands album on Cubase. That DAW has awesome workflow features.
I love seeing your mixing process. Quality content! Looking forward to Part 2
dude, that was extremely helpful!!! I appreciate you taking the time to make this video bro.
Holy shit dude, you are so on point, i just did a cover and i learned how to mix bass and guitars, i was looking for a video about drums.... Right on the spot!
not that i learned, i managed to do something acceptable
Cubase is the best. Hands down. Using it for almost 10 years.
Haha yeah I've been using it since 2006 tried everything else I actually started in Logic so it wasn;t my first DAW, Cubase has it's issues, but overall nothing else comes close IMO, and since I got Pro 10 a few months ago I find it hard to spend time away from it, I think my GF is starting to get jealous lmao
Exactly!
It’s all subjective, I’ve never used Cubase but all DAWs can do the same things
@@HellaBeatsOfficial That's demonstrably untrue, each DAW has different inbuilt features, sure they can do the same basic operations, but their work flows, editing abilities and the quality of their stock plugins couldn't be more different.
Been a Cubase user since 1999 with Cubase SX. Tried the rest, and none of them were as good.
Cubase and reaper are simply the best!!! Haven't used reaper much but I love it and want to experiment woth it more.
First of all and probably not the first time you’ve heard this but nice f*#%ing job with the yellow ring around the pointer!
Misha and Nolly did this a while back with their own preferred DAW (Cubase and Logic, respectively)
Thanks Glenn for these tutorials!!! They have helped me improve so much!
Big ups bro! I'm a new subscriber and I've clicked the bell please always release cubase stuff!
I’ve been trying to use as many stock plugins as I can, partly for cost and partly for future proofing, and I just started using that “vintage compressor” in cubase on just about everything too, especially drum close mics. I can’t imagine getting much better results from a paid plugin, but hey maybe I’m wrong and should add that cost and hassle into my life.
I feel like making records has gotten way more complicated than it used to be. Granted, doing things with modern technology can be great and convenient in certain regards, but in others over-complicates and prolongs the process. Honestly, most of the best records ever made were done using just the bare minimum. As long as everything was leveled out, the important thing was that the musicians had something good to put on tape. As a result, you got something that sounded a lot more organic and real, rather than manipulated down to the last detail with digital processing.
You can do it like that. I also feel that records tend to be overproduced. Too much layering and sample replacement, a lot of spot effects. Surgical level automation on vocals and things like that.
Hey Glen,
Could you please go into more detail on phasing issues in a future video? I get the concept but I think knowing more about what to listen for and what to do about it would really help.
Thanks dude 🤘
Nice job Glenn. Long time watcher, learned of you from warren huart and lifelong engineer musician here, also first time commenting and love your channel. I have to say yes cubase rules, Also I recently abandoned pro tools almost 100% and lovin it. Not a pro tools hater here just cant stand their way of pricing and marketing. I also use logic pro x for writing and for quick demos i use harrison mixbus. I Just wanted to say Great job bud keep up the great work.
Hey Glenn, I'm a newish subscriber so maybe you have done something like this before. But have you ever thought about doing a series of critiquing our mixes, or our bands mixes? Like what you would have done different, or what you think it needs/lacks? This may be difficult to do, but i think it would be a cool way to maybe let us get more hands on with the advice you give out. No names involved because I'm sure you don't want to talk badly about some producers, but yeah lol. I would personally love for you to hear my bands previously recording album, and critique it. Either way, thanks for all the great content you put out, it's very knowledgeable & I'm happy to listen to someone who is not afraid to offend others haha.
FUCK YES ❤ finally 🙈
can't wait for more cubase related videos!!
So far so good.. .I've still gotta learn the editing, however!
Cubase has been the king of all DAWs since the beginning.
#facts
@@bradcoxva #cats
Great vid! I've been having trouble getting my kick and snare right and I really learned a lot from this video!
Suggestion for next video "How to mix VST drums"
Not really my thing.... most of that stuff is just "put the faders up"
If they're untreated (Superior Drummer), it's the same procedure but without the gates. If they are processed, then it's tweaking them a little and away you go.
You don't mix vst drums, they are already mixed. If not, just mix them the way you want :D There is no way "how to..."
I'm writing and recording in my little one room home studio. To get drums I finger play on a Korg Nanopad 2 using sounds in my Cubase Artist 7.5 Groove Agent drum program. I do tweak the sounds but I'd love to get a handle on how to make them sound better. Real drums are out of the question.
I'm no expert and I use VST drums. Here's what I've figured out. If you want the drums to sound more realistic... Look it up on RUclips or Google you will find a video, not Glenn's channel tho, he don't play with that shit :]
14:15 "We've got a Mexican Troll"
Hahaha.
hi glenn, i would love to see mixing with stock plugins video but on cakewalk by bandlab. its free all in one DAW, really awesome for beginners as it also came with TH-3 guitar plugins, which sounds really awesome! cheers glen, have a good one!
I have no DAW yet and cake walk looks a good stating point. Everyone talks Tools and Reaper but I'm going start there.
@@gilbertspader7974 no other free DAW came with such a great plugins for guitar player, rock on buddy! 👍
Awesome video. I do hope your tutorials stick with using Reaper though. I was so stoked to see a professional using Reaper as their main DAW, after I've been using it since I've started doing my own recordings seriously, even though my friends would always brag about how pros use Protools or Fruityloops. Keep it up with the awesome content Glenn!
I downloaded Cubase element literally yesterday. The learning curve to where everything is at isn't the easiest. I can see the potential though. Learning a new DAW is never fun
Really cool episode Glenn! Thanks dude!
That was a great little lesson Glenn!!! Thank you very much!
Thanks a lot for these videos, I suck at mixing and I'm trying to learn some stuff !
Thank you once again, I knew after the guitar mix tutorial vid, this would occur...I work cubase too (traditionaly, for no other reason)
Awesome video man!
Glenn you Rock. Thanks for all you do.
Great video. Thank you really loving the no sample natural drum sound.
Alright! A Cubase tutorial! Whoo
Most guys out there dream of getting your unedited sound, never mind the processed version
Random question but how do I get the Cubase click track in Reaper? Used to have it but can't for the life of me remember how it ended up there. lol
I love Cubase,nice vid I like the way you use it duuuuuuuuuuude.
GLENN you gotta check out the plugin gullfoss, it just came out for PC. I've never had a plugin that made me want to put it on every project i've ever made, it's phenomenal.
Wow, very useful video Glenn!
Glenn you was always my Reaper guy.
Cubase will forever CRUSH
Thank you sooooooooooooo much for showing Cubase. I have it, but need a helping hand. I hope we see more tutorials with it.