lol! That’s all you got? John Boy? Thanks for the coach Oklahoma. Best of luck with your SEC schedule next year and your impending coaching search in 26.
Think about it, getting in at West Virginia right now is going to be fun-- he's going to have complete control of a brand new defense and have as much money as he wants to bring in exactly the players he wants and work with his old buddy Rich Rodriguez. And West Virginia is a very beautiful place to live. Also, the expectations are low!
I'm fine with it!!! What about this one, Little Hawkins gets into the transfer portal as well. He will not be the starter and for sure, will be left holding the bag, as soon as spring ball arrives. Only a fool would stay, just ask Zack Ailey.
Dude, Nebraska has been bad for 20 years. We’ve had a lot of bad things happen this year and yes, this is definitely not good going forward but OU is going to have to jump in front of this FAST. If this keeps up, it will lead to us being the new Nebraska in the long run.
BV cannot keep his protégé who would rather take a “step down” job than stay at Oklahoma. Maybe because Zac Alley knows something about next year. BV’s tenure has been an absolute mess to this point. I cannot listen to BV flap his gums at press conferences anymore. BV NEEDS ACTIONS NOT WORDS
@@gregoriopuro Perhaps. I've always kinda liked WV. I wish you guys the best. As for OU, I've been saying all season we need to tear it down to the foundation and start over. Looks like somebody in Norman has heard me and agrees!
Guys, there is always two sides of a coin. Like there is night & day, winter & fall. So will the Sooners rise again? Speak life into the program. So much neg..
I am Nebraska football fan since the 80s so have seen the highs and lows. I have always followed OU as well and wished they would succeed. But you are following what Nebraska did back in the early 2000s so I don’t want to worry you. But OU is in a crossroads right now! OU can’t get too far behind, but if the correct moves are not made quickly soon mediocrity can set in. OU has now had a losing record 2 out of last 3 years so it feels like when we brought in Bill Callahan and he had 2 good years and 2 losing years. Then suddenly we had fallen so low we are still trying to get back up. I know how fast a team can fall. I also know how hard it can be to get back up quickly. Now since you are in the SEC it will get even tougher! So good luck to you all! But OU athletic director and Brent will have to make very smart decisions quickly.
@@user-ce3fr2xg3b I wish but they would have announced that already. For his sake, he’s a good guy, and his wife is going through a lot. She needs him and he doesn’t need to deal with trying to rebuild OU and care for his wife.
@@Soonertheologian Couldn't agree with you more but I do believe he's already been told that he's gone but can't make it public yet. So here's the deal. He takes the $44M, spends a year or two with Julie, then takes a HS gig in Idaho and is a great role model for the kids.
This isn’t a knock on Oklahoma’s program.Yes I’m a WVU fan.RichRod wanted Zach really badly.RichRod took less of a salary so WVU could invest on the defensive side of the ball.I’d say Zach will get a pay raise and a program that’s overjoyed to get him.Oklahoma is a BLUEBLOOD and you will find a very good replacement.
I heard on another podcast that Zac wants to run his own defense, with BV, it's his way or the highway. Another point that was brought up, the SEC pressure cooker environment is the highest stress level in the NCAA, WVA isn't near that level so Zac won't have that pressure anymore. One more thing Zac, if IF but WHEN one of your hot shot assistant coaches bolts for somewhere else, you'll see what this feels like.
@@feulman65 Could be, but it's all speculation. Someone said he'd never get credit, only blame. Possibly. But he knows BV and knew full well what he was getting into. I think he's either TBOW Jr, saying he's staying then 24 hrs later leaving, or BV has been told he's been fired then BV told ZA to take his best deal and jump ship. I think it's the latter.
I feel absolutely wonderful. Hail West! Virginia! I honestly do not usually take pleasure in others dismay, however, since we entered the big 12 it was not just UT that talked all kinds of crap it was also OU. And I did not expect that, I actually kinda liked y’all before that. But OU fans were just as bad as UT fans to us, and we beat UT several times. So while I am happy to got him I can’t lie I am loving the melt downs everywhere. Maybe have more respect for great programs like we have always had for y’all. Please be physically healthy and I’ll pray for everyone.
West Virginia still isn't shit and will never be relevant 😂. Oklahoma will find a replacement and keep clicking. No damage that can't be replaced by the end of the week.
WVU is on the Way! Glad we finally got our Guy....we are usually losing our people to other programs,but now you can feel the chages coming. West Virginia is going to be big time AGAIN....like the 2004-2007 PERIOD. Oklahoma shouldn't have bleft Big12. Grass isnt greener elsewhere...
All this overreaction is ridiculous. What if the next person they bring in is better. Let’s just see how things play out. The groans and moans are getting a little tired. The season was trash. We lost a few good ones to the portal and a lot of injured and not reliable players as well. We have a new OC and will have a new DC going into 2025 season. Stop all the crying and complaining.
3 years ago. Oklahoma, Miami, USC LSU and Notre Dame all got new head coaches. And I don't think anyone at the time thought that Marcus Freeman would end up being the best out of all of them. It's a crap shoot man I'm telling you. I feel so lucky that we got Marcus Freeman. I thought Brent Venables was going to be great at the time. But he still could be. I don't think He recruits properly though. I watch a lot of recruiting and he's way different than Marcus. Good luck Oklahoma
@michaelmorris6406 - Boomer Sooner here. Great comment !!! Out of curiosity, can you give a comparison to their contrasting recruiting approaches. Would like to know because (frankly) it’s always been amazing how ND consistently gets such good players - ESPECIALLY while not compromising their academic standards.
Y’all sunshine pumpers had enough of the BV 💩show yet? He has made OU a stepping stone job to WVU! 😂😂😂 Brent has DESTROYED. What remained of this program after TBOW got done.
@@slundgr It certainly looks that way. I started considering that last year when we saw the same issues arising again and again with no improvement or signs of change. Now that the BV regime is three years in, I'm convinced it's true. Same could be said for Lincoln Riley, I think.
@@gonzostrangelove6107 Have you heard who BV will hire as DC? Alley left him in a bind. It will be hard to get a good DC since there is a good chance BV gets fired next year if he doesn’t turn it around.
Apparently you guys don’t remember Rich Rods WVU teams they were dominating on both sides of the ball and Oklahoma should remember this isn’t a knock on Oklahoma’s program but WVU is gonna be relevant again and Oklahoma will get a good replacement
I’ve been a Sooner for 50 years… Sooner Nation read your comments, why would anyone want to come here or even stay? I am ashamed of the way fans act!!! Yall are sickening 🤮🤮🤮
Zac Alley did what BV asked for - BV gets ALL the credit. He is a young, arrogant, impatient, ingrate, who was unwilling to be humble and learn from the master. OU will be just fine on the defensive side of the ball. I hope we can get a mature DC (hopefully from the NFL) who can attract even higher caliber defensive players seeking the NFL. Boomer!
Pretty telling that a guy that consider BV his mentor, a second father, a man to whom he owed his career in large part was not willing to bet on Venables. Brent’s protege voted with his feet. Things must be much worse internally than we ever imagined. I imagine that JC was not willing to pony up on a guaranteed deal knowing that he may need to can and pay off the entire staff in 2025. Brent and the administration need to get their act together. JC and Harroz need to be held accountable because, ultimately, this is their shit show. The fans can’t fix this mess, only JC and Harroz can. The fans can only express their dissatisfaction with the obvious problems that they seem to be oblivious to. Who is going to be the interim coach? Doesn’t seem to be anyone on staff remotely qualified, which in itself is a telling problem. Is Bob coming back as interim? What a cluster. How can you recruit to this mess? Get ready to write off 2025 before it even begins. Going to take years to fix this.
Saban lost coordinators every year. Why are OU fans freaking out about loosing a DC? Thanks for everything Zac did, best of luck in WV. OU will be fine.
True, but Saban’s revolving door of coordinators only started AFTER he had gotten the program set up with a locked in structure for success., Coach V is nowhere close to achieving that objective - although he sure talks sweet about it in all of his press conferences.
@@GerryBrown-fg6ejNaw, he just lied and he's probably going to try and poach some players from OU as well. Great guy just like Riley. Guys that lie and steal company assets on their way out the door.
Technically Arbuckle isn't "here" yet, and Mateer hasn't attended class yet, but BV will be gone before the ball drops for 2025. 10+ year rebuild on the horizon
@@user-ce3fr2xg3b Will they eat the buy out? And if they do how does Joe C. keep his job all things considered? Man, I never wanted to become SMU, tho Barry flirted with that shit. 😅
@@billquantrill4960 They have no choice. Think about it. Right now it's hard to imagine us recovering, even in 5 or 6 years. Let it go another year and it may be a decade or more
I've said it since they panic hired BV way too quickly - he isn't a CEO and never will be. Ever. He cannot run a program and the entire thing is imploding. If they don't find their balls at OU and fire BV now we are done for a decade. Fire BV and go make a splash hire.
Damn man, "disaster?" I know WVU isn't the program Oklahoma is but you make it sound like we can't brush our teeth without falling on our faces and dislocating our jaws in Morgantown lol.
It isn't about the town or people in Morgantown my friend. It's about the program at WVU. Be honest, not a historical juggernaut of a program. It isn't USC. One would think objectively that OU is a better place to get your name out there. This is a commentary on how far OU has fallen. Not about the people or state of West Virginia
But WVU is on its way to being top tier like Oklahoma use to be before going to SEC.. change is coming to MOUNTAINEERS...we gonna scare teams very soon.. Oklahoma thought we wasn't nothing special when we beat brakes off them in bowl ga Me in what 2007 sugar bowl..
But WVU is on its way to being top tier like Oklahoma use to be before going to SEC.. change is coming to MOUNTAINEERS...we gonna scare teams very soon.. Oklahoma thought we wasn't nothing special when we beat brakes off them in bowl ga Me in what 2007 sugar bowl..
I've always respected the OU program. Let's face the fact that no team would decline an sec invite, but over time it will prove a bad move. The only hope is that a super league is on the horizon, otherwise it may be program creep for a while which won't be good for a proud program like OU. We'll see. Best of luck.
25 years ago we won the national championship. I thought there would be 2 or 3 more. 25 years later i am 68 and resigned that in my lifetime i will not see another. I did see Switzers 3 and Stoops 1. We used to be dominate. Venerables had lost the team. West Virginia is a step down. Why, better get while the gettins good
I'm inclined to agree with you, but the ONLY ray of hope is this. I was here for the John Blake era. Stoops took over in 1999 with Leach. In 2000 we won the championship. Can it happen again? Sure. Will it happen? Not likely, especially not as dysfunctional as the NCAA is right now with portal, NIL, etc.
Life-long Sooner fan. My first game was 1978 OU/Texas. I'm presently fighting a colon cancer diagnosis. Prognosis is good as it was caught in time. However, I'm with you the older I get, the less likely I'll see another. In regards to Zach leaving, there is no stability at Oklahoma right now, Brent is on the proverbial hotseat. Maybe Zach will get a head coach in the waiting situation there. They're are things with his move that we have no idea about.
@@Del-Scent Prayers indeed. For Sooner fans, life is football.... until it becomes about life. As for football, I honestly believe yesterday was the proverbial nail for BV and he told Alley to jump ship while he could get a good deal.
You underestimate Texas fans’ knowledge of the rivalry. They’re counting their lucky stars. They’ve seen the patterns both programs are in. That said, texans hafta laugh now. They can’t laugh when Oklahoma rallies back all the way no lousy.
Brent must have been calling defensive plays bc why would you leave oklahoma to go to a lower prestige school. Something aint right about the oklahoma program
We made it through the decade of the 90’s, which was a ten year period of complete irrelevance. All these people with their hair on fire need to calm the f*ck down! This is no where close to as bad as it was back then. We had an asinine amount of injuries this year not to mention a brutal schedule, which gets even tougher next year, and untested first year starters at quarterback. Anyone who thought this year was going to be anything better than what it was needs to check themselves into a mental health facility. And next year isn’t going to be much better either. The schedule guarantees that. Losing Alley sucks, no doubt. But there are plenty of great defensive coaches out there who will love a chance to coach at Oklahoma. This is Venables’ wheel house. He’ll find somebody good. People just need to relax! This move to the SEC was a stupid move from the outset. I said it when it was announced and I still believe it now. But we are where we are. The only option now is to fight through this down period and make things better in the future. If we can survive the 90’s don’t tell me three years ends the program! That’s total bullsh*t! I still like Venables and believe he will be a good head coach ultimately. This is the era of instant gratification or blow the whole damn thing up! It’s pathetic and people need to be better and stop with this child like outlook on everything. Nothing in the real world works like that. It doesn’t work that way in college football either.
I agree with everything you say, but I do tire of somebody saying oh we'll be fine next year and then leaving 3 hours later. It's just a lack of Integrity in my opinion
It's a huge overreaction. The D needed BV's players. He has them now. Sure ZA was good, but he's not the only defensive talent in the CFB game. His secondary at OU was serviceable at best. When our defense began to break down in games we lost, it was the DB's that got burned. Isn't that ZA's group? We'll get a very good DC even if it's in house. I agree with you about the season. All the expectation was centered around an unproven 2nd year QB. And we moved into the best conference with the best defenses. We were bound to fail. My only gripe was that BV still struggled as a HC. We'll see how 2025 shakes out but we'll pretty much know by the 4th or 5th game if BV deserves to stick around. Even if he does win 8 games OU shouldn't start giving him an extension. We need to see at least 3 years of 8 win minimum seasons and an SEC challenger and at least 1 CFB playoff appearance. As of right now that seems unsurmountable, but let's just see before we give up on BV.
Love this comment, and totally agree. Sooner fans just need to relax. 6 and 7 won’t seem so bad next year when OU goes 5 and 7. BV is doing great, give the man a 5 year extension now. Hook’em!!!!!!😂😂😂
Have you heard who BV will hire as DC? Alley left him in a bind. It will be hard to get a good DC since there is a good chance BV gets fired next year if he doesn’t turn it around.
I'm not 😭 crying over a Alley Cat 😺 who didn't or couldn't recruit anyone in HS or the Portal. He proved he rode Venables coat tails and with no good recruits
If Zac Taylor gets fired from the Bengals, OU should nab him. He's from Norman, played QB at Nebraska so he's familiar with the area and the history. He would bring an NFL approach to this program that I think is going to become the norm in the future. Bring that Oklahoma boy back to Norman.
People always say a team is a reflection of their coach, but OU fans refuse to see that in their own head coach. He will do the BV thing and hire in house. So next year the defense falls completely off and the offense will be dynamite.
Band-Aids will not heal the deep wound we have here. Time has come to accept that BV is not able to take OU football to where it should be. 3 years has shown that. OU administration needs to figure out how to let BV go now.
He needs to be a defensive coach hes not head coach level at all its CLEAR!!!.. AND what he goes 8-5 next year at best and try and work off that contract? While the damage will be far worse to overcome
I remember after Switzer how Donnie Duncan hired all these coaches that Switzer said would be great because they were program guys. They were Gibbs and Blake. We could have had Lanning.
Maybe they should keep paying BV what there paying him and let him be the full time DC and go out and get a good head coach. Hell I don't know at this point.
Everyone gives brent credit for being a good defensive coach. Who cares if he is the head coach and can't win games? The offense is the worst in the SEC and probably Big 12. And unless the defense is allowing only 50 yards a game, no one cares if they can't score to win.
you guys would not have survived the 1990's. Loose Switzer in mid summer replaced with Gary Gibbs OK. Couldn't beat Texas, Nebraska. H. Schnellenberger lasted 1 year. John Blake won 32% of his games. Yes this was worse!
The SEC doesnt have the offense that you see in the big 12. Of course the stats improved because they played weaker offenses and the opposition didnt need to match our offensive scoring. Play vanilla against OU. No need for tricks or gimmicks.
Zac Alley wants to be a head coach at a power 4 team. Best way to get a position like that is being part of a team that wins a conference championship. WVU has a legitimate chance of winning the BiG12 where OU has very little chance of winning the SEC. OU fans better come to terms that OU will no longer be a relevant program. They are now a Vanderbilt, a Mississippi State. Going to the SEC was a massive mistake. Unlike Texas OU can’t recruit for SEC football. Players wanting to play in the SEC don’t want to go to Norman Oklahoma when they also have offers from Florida, Georgia, or Alabama, LSU and Texas. OU is a sinking ship and Zac Alley got off before it goes down.
They know whats coming. Players and coaches leaving before they get taken down with BV. I feel like Arbuckle and Mateer are just coming in for a big payday. OU is not a real program anymore.
Lincoln Riley left a mess behind. And... you see what stellar job he's doing at USC. He'll be gone from there soon after he's done making a mess of them too.
As a WVU fan I’m thrilled.
Take a chill pill John Boy.
Caeser seemed secure until the Ides of March happened.
lol! That’s all you got? John Boy?
Thanks for the coach Oklahoma.
Best of luck with your SEC schedule next year and your impending coaching search in 26.
Something is wrong at Oklahoma
We need a better athletic director. Then he can rebuild the football program. This is John Blake territory.
No way! 😁😁
@@soonerdave01 Yes way. Lol. Nice avatar.
Headcoach.
Is 6-7 good?
Sorry guys I can feel your pain…. Let’s Go Mountaineers!!!
Think about it, getting in at West Virginia right now is going to be fun-- he's going to have complete control of a brand new defense and have as much money as he wants to bring in exactly the players he wants and work with his old buddy Rich Rodriguez. And West Virginia is a very beautiful place to live. Also, the expectations are low!
@@jwag2708 coaching is terrible and very unstable. WOULD YOU trust your future to a bunch of unknowns when BV is out the door next year? I think not.
All true, except the part about expectations.
Rich wins 10 games in year 2 or he's gone.
I’m not sure even the haters could have predicted things going this bad. 😩
I'm fine with it!!! What about this one, Little Hawkins gets into the transfer portal as well. He will not be the starter and for sure, will be left holding the bag, as soon as spring ball arrives. Only a fool would stay, just ask Zack Ailey.
No sir, I could not. Next year is the year for anyone in Norman to buy season tickets. Should get good value and they'll be back in roughly 4-5 years.
@@Shane4643 Good point.
@@soonerdave01 It's what I did with Texas. 😉 Now I have tickets that are way above my "donor" ranking.
Auburn and Alabama were surprise wins. I did think it would be worse.
Oklahoma is the new Nebraska 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
Nebraska actually is winning now.
That’s not fair to Nebraska.
Nebraska won their bowl game and will be preseason top 25.
Dude, Nebraska has been bad for 20 years. We’ve had a lot of bad things happen this year and yes, this is definitely not good going forward but OU is going to have to jump in front of this FAST. If this keeps up, it will lead to us being the new Nebraska in the long run.
Alley knows WVU is about to win a natty
Now that's funny
No coach that has another opportunity will stay on board the sinking ship!
BV cannot keep his protégé who would rather take a “step down” job than stay at Oklahoma. Maybe because Zac Alley knows something about next year. BV’s tenure has been an absolute mess to this point. I cannot listen to BV flap his gums at press conferences anymore. BV NEEDS ACTIONS NOT WORDS
It's too late. I'm telling you, Alley is leaving because BV already has the $44M buyout check in his bank account. BV will be gone before Jan 1
Oklahoma is no longer relevant!!!
Lateral yes..Step down no...
Step down onto an escalator going up..
@@gregoriopuro Perhaps. I've always kinda liked WV. I wish you guys the best. As for OU, I've been saying all season we need to tear it down to the foundation and start over. Looks like somebody in Norman has heard me and agrees!
Guys, there is always two sides of a coin. Like there is night & day, winter & fall. So will the Sooners rise again? Speak life into the program. So much neg..
Thank you! Just a bunch of whining for absolutely no reason at all.
I like how ou fans running wvu in the ground when they lost to navy lol
You didn't see that they have won a Natty in the last 40 years. 😂😂
@@DLWBCT Perhaps, but the last 40 years don't matter now. GT used to rule college football...and?
I am Nebraska football fan since the 80s so have seen the highs and lows. I have always followed OU as well and wished they would succeed. But you are following what Nebraska did back in the early 2000s so I don’t want to worry you. But OU is in a crossroads right now! OU can’t get too far behind, but if the correct moves are not made quickly soon mediocrity can set in.
OU has now had a losing record 2 out of last 3 years so it feels like when we brought in Bill Callahan and he had 2 good years and 2 losing years. Then suddenly we had fallen so low we are still trying to get back up. I know how fast a team can fall. I also know how hard it can be to get back up quickly. Now since you are in the SEC it will get even tougher! So good luck to you all! But OU athletic director and Brent will have to make very smart decisions quickly.
It’s a big step up 🏈 and we (WVU) thank you 😊
Just fire BV and get it over with. It seems like keeping him for next season is delaying the inevitable.
It absolutely is wasting yet another year. But we can't let Joe C. hire his replacement.
I truly believe BV has already been given the $44M buyout check and that is why Alley is leaving.
Can’t afford the buyout. Probably can’t next year either.
@@user-ce3fr2xg3b I wish but they would have announced that already.
For his sake, he’s a good guy, and his wife is going through a lot. She needs him and he doesn’t need to deal with trying to rebuild OU and care for his wife.
@@Soonertheologian Couldn't agree with you more but I do believe he's already been told that he's gone but can't make it public yet. So here's the deal. He takes the $44M, spends a year or two with Julie, then takes a HS gig in Idaho and is a great role model for the kids.
This isn’t a knock on Oklahoma’s program.Yes I’m a WVU fan.RichRod wanted Zach really badly.RichRod took less of a salary so WVU could invest on the defensive side of the ball.I’d say Zach will get a pay raise and a program that’s overjoyed to get him.Oklahoma is a BLUEBLOOD and you will find a very good replacement.
Gay
@johnwhite5306 yes, Oklahoma football is gay
@@johnwhite5306 are you describing yourself?
Brent is done after 2025. Zac wants stability and job security, don’t blame him honestly. I am excited for 2026.
Nobody has job stability in college football
I got 100 bucks that says BV will NOT be the Head Coach next Fall.
Lot of haters and actors commenting 😂
Fire Joe C!!!
@@ShaneRoberts-c7d fire yourself first and the rest of the fans that wanted Jackson Arnold over the production of Lebby and Dillion Gabriel 😂😂😂
wow....something is going on inside the program
Death spiral. Better buckle in, its going to get rough.
BV has been fired but it's not public yet. However he did share with Alley, that's why he's taking the demotion.
I heard on another podcast that Zac wants to run his own defense, with BV, it's his way or the highway. Another point that was brought up, the SEC pressure cooker environment is the highest stress level in the NCAA, WVA isn't near that level so Zac won't have that pressure anymore. One more thing Zac, if IF but WHEN one of your hot shot assistant coaches bolts for somewhere else, you'll see what this feels like.
@@feulman65 Could be, but it's all speculation. Someone said he'd never get credit, only blame. Possibly. But he knows BV and knew full well what he was getting into. I think he's either TBOW Jr, saying he's staying then 24 hrs later leaving, or BV has been told he's been fired then BV told ZA to take his best deal and jump ship. I think it's the latter.
All these defensive players were Brents, not an Alley Cat who didn't recruit anyone
I feel absolutely wonderful. Hail West! Virginia! I honestly do not usually take pleasure in others dismay, however, since we entered the big 12 it was not just UT that talked all kinds of crap it was also OU. And I did not expect that, I actually kinda liked y’all before that. But OU fans were just as bad as UT fans to us, and we beat UT several times. So while I am happy to got him I can’t lie I am loving the melt downs everywhere. Maybe have more respect for great programs like we have always had for y’all. Please be physically healthy and I’ll pray for everyone.
West Virginia still isn't shit and will never be relevant 😂. Oklahoma will find a replacement and keep clicking. No damage that can't be replaced by the end of the week.
The old step down from the SEC to the B12 comment.
I kinda laughed at that as well, kinda cute I thought
Lol OU is not an SEC program.
They are like the Kansas of the SEC.
WVU is on the Way! Glad we finally got our Guy....we are usually losing our people to other programs,but now you can feel the chages coming. West Virginia is going to be big time AGAIN....like the 2004-2007 PERIOD. Oklahoma shouldn't have bleft Big12. Grass isnt greener elsewhere...
All this overreaction is ridiculous. What if the next person they bring in is better. Let’s just see how things play out. The groans and moans are getting a little tired. The season was trash. We lost a few good ones to the portal and a lot of injured and not reliable players as well. We have a new OC and will have a new DC going into 2025 season. Stop all the crying and complaining.
This will be the new normal at OU. They were suckered into the SEC.
3 years ago. Oklahoma, Miami, USC LSU and Notre Dame all got new head coaches. And I don't think anyone at the time thought that Marcus Freeman would end up being the best out of all of them. It's a crap shoot man I'm telling you. I feel so lucky that we got Marcus Freeman. I thought Brent Venables was going to be great at the time. But he still could be. I don't think He recruits properly though. I watch a lot of recruiting and he's way different than Marcus. Good luck Oklahoma
Yeah he out recruited Freeman for both "Bowens" brothers sooooo FOH.
@michaelmorris6406 -
Boomer Sooner here. Great comment !!! Out of curiosity, can you give a comparison to their contrasting recruiting approaches. Would like to know because (frankly) it’s always been amazing how ND consistently gets such good players - ESPECIALLY while not compromising their academic standards.
Y’all sunshine pumpers had enough of the BV 💩show yet? He has made OU a stepping stone job to WVU! 😂😂😂 Brent has DESTROYED. What remained of this program after TBOW got done.
Bv is a control freak. His way is not working Sick of all the turmoil and negativity around the program.
We needed a championship head coach; we got a micromanaging motivational speaker.
BV is the Peter Principle in effect
@@slundgr It certainly looks that way. I started considering that last year when we saw the same issues arising again and again with no improvement or signs of change. Now that the BV regime is three years in, I'm convinced it's true.
Same could be said for Lincoln Riley, I think.
@@gonzostrangelove6107 Have you heard who BV will hire as DC? Alley left him in a bind. It will be hard to get a good DC since there is a good chance BV gets fired next year if he doesn’t turn it around.
@@slundgr I've seen some names floating around, like Goodwin from Clemson. Doesn't seem to be an out-front candidate yet.
Apparently you guys don’t remember Rich Rods WVU teams they were dominating on both sides of the ball and Oklahoma should remember this isn’t a knock on Oklahoma’s program but WVU is gonna be relevant again and Oklahoma will get a good replacement
No disrespect bro, but.... can I have a hit of what you're smoking?
Joe C needs to go. Stop listening to Stoops and find a head coach. Should have landed Dan Lanning.
You would never in a million years come up with the same money and perks as Nike!
@@ronaldlamascus1944OU had Lanning, he was ready to sign and come to OU. Then they decided to take a program guy instead.
I’ve been a Sooner for 50 years… Sooner Nation read your comments, why would anyone want to come here or even stay? I am ashamed of the way fans act!!! Yall are sickening 🤮🤮🤮
Zac Alley did what BV asked for - BV gets ALL the credit. He is a young, arrogant, impatient, ingrate, who was unwilling to be humble and learn from the master. OU will be just fine on the defensive side of the ball. I hope we can get a mature DC (hopefully from the NFL) who can attract even higher caliber defensive players seeking the NFL. Boomer!
Hold up, don’t discredit the big 12 just because ou moved up to the big bad sec just this year.
Good luck Zach Alley, gave us the longest run in Navy history and bolts 😂
Lmaooooooo things you love to see. Haven’t seen OU faithful down this bad since the red river 😂
Oklahoma will be fine
If 6-7 is fine then yes OU will be fine..
No they won’t
Forget about the “name” Oklahoma it’s all about the $$$$ now
Man… wow… 😢😢😢
There are bigger problems than just BV. The OU administration is complicit in this shit show.
They hired him. Yep
The OU administration is the root cause of this shit show
Pretty telling that a guy that consider BV his mentor, a second father, a man to whom he owed his career in large part was not willing to bet on Venables. Brent’s protege voted with his feet. Things must be much worse internally than we ever imagined. I imagine that JC was not willing to pony up on a guaranteed deal knowing that he may need to can and pay off the entire staff in 2025. Brent and the administration need to get their act together. JC and Harroz need to be held accountable because, ultimately, this is their shit show. The fans can’t fix this mess, only JC and Harroz can. The fans can only express their dissatisfaction with the obvious problems that they seem to be oblivious to. Who is going to be the interim coach? Doesn’t seem to be anyone on staff remotely qualified, which in itself is a telling problem. Is Bob coming back as interim? What a cluster. How can you recruit to this mess? Get ready to write off 2025 before it even begins. Going to take years to fix this.
He wanted more Control. It's BV defense and he recruited no one so BREATH People. Defense isn't the issue OFFENSE is.
And Brent for sure won't fuck that up...........................again.
"breathe"
Loo defense isn’t the issue? 😂 what a joke , you just gave up 21 points to navy
Give the guy on the left a tall top hat 🎩 and this channel gets way more views
That is gold!!!
lol “Frankly Scarlett I don’t give a damn”
Saban lost coordinators every year. Why are OU fans freaking out about loosing a DC? Thanks for everything Zac did, best of luck in WV. OU will be fine.
True, but Saban’s revolving door of coordinators only started AFTER he had gotten the program set up with a locked in structure for success., Coach V is nowhere close to achieving that objective - although he sure talks sweet about it in all of his press conferences.
I can't blame him at all. I wouldn't want to play for or work for BV.
he and bv had to have had a verbal fight during and or after the bowl. bv is a crazy wild man when his temper is out of control
Yes his temper is top level out of control type temper.
he worked for rich rod before at Jacksonvile state he lied said yesterday after bowl game he was coming back lied pulled a riley
U are allowed to change ur mind…😂😂..He wanted to jump in the portal…Wish him well…
What's the big deal people change jobs everyday time to move on😮
@@GerryBrown-fg6ej So true. If he got fired, no one would care…🤣🤣
@@GerryBrown-fg6ejNaw, he just lied and he's probably going to try and poach some players from OU as well. Great guy just like Riley. Guys that lie and steal company assets on their way out the door.
That's exactly what I thought. Riley 2.0
Sorry for Okl's loss but very excited for WVUs gain. Yall will be fine though
He was Brent's protege and is leaving for a lesser program. Wow, OU is done. Dumpster fire. Arbuckle is nuts for coming here
Technically Arbuckle isn't "here" yet, and Mateer hasn't attended class yet, but BV will be gone before the ball drops for 2025. 10+ year rebuild on the horizon
You have to wonder if Arbuckle and Mateer aren't watching all this suck and wondering what the heck they got themselves into?
@@user-ce3fr2xg3b Will they eat the buy out? And if they do how does Joe C. keep his job all things considered?
Man, I never wanted to become SMU, tho Barry flirted with that shit. 😅
@@billquantrill4960 They have no choice. Think about it. Right now it's hard to imagine us recovering, even in 5 or 6 years. Let it go another year and it may be a decade or more
Brent is the DC really, so what
I've said it since they panic hired BV way too quickly - he isn't a CEO and never will be. Ever. He cannot run a program and the entire thing is imploding. If they don't find their balls at OU and fire BV now we are done for a decade. Fire BV and go make a splash hire.
All I can say to OU fans remember Taggart at FSU; Strong at Texas, Frost at Nebraska.
You all know he's getting paid more with at least a few years of job security? It's not that stunning.
It sounds like BV is hard to work with. ( People leave managers )
Damn man, "disaster?" I know WVU isn't the program Oklahoma is but you make it sound like we can't brush our teeth without falling on our faces and dislocating our jaws in Morgantown lol.
Coming off a 6-7 season, needing to replace your defensive coordinator and install a new system. It’s a disaster.
Teeth, in Morgantown? Lol good one.
It isn't about the town or people in Morgantown my friend. It's about the program at WVU. Be honest, not a historical juggernaut of a program. It isn't USC. One would think objectively that OU is a better place to get your name out there. This is a commentary on how far OU has fallen. Not about the people or state of West Virginia
But WVU is on its way to being top tier like Oklahoma use to be before going to SEC.. change is coming to
MOUNTAINEERS...we gonna scare teams very soon.. Oklahoma thought we wasn't nothing special when we beat brakes off them in bowl ga
Me in what 2007 sugar bowl..
But WVU is on its way to being top tier like Oklahoma use to be before going to SEC.. change is coming to
MOUNTAINEERS...we gonna scare teams very soon.. Oklahoma thought we wasn't nothing special when we beat brakes off them in bowl ga
Me in what 2007 sugar bowl..
Make Brandon Hall the new DC.
I've always respected the OU program. Let's face the fact that no team would decline an sec invite, but over time it will prove a bad move. The only hope is that a super league is on the horizon, otherwise it may be program creep for a while which won't be good for a proud program like OU. We'll see. Best of luck.
Arbuckle is gone before Jan 7th. Book it.
I’ve heard crazier takes. Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
25 years ago we won the national championship. I thought there would be 2 or 3 more. 25 years later i am 68 and resigned that in my lifetime i will not see another. I did see Switzers 3 and Stoops 1. We used to be dominate. Venerables had lost the team. West Virginia is a step down. Why, better get while the gettins good
I'm inclined to agree with you, but the ONLY ray of hope is this. I was here for the John Blake era. Stoops took over in 1999 with Leach. In 2000 we won the championship. Can it happen again? Sure. Will it happen? Not likely, especially not as dysfunctional as the NCAA is right now with portal, NIL, etc.
Facts
Life-long Sooner fan. My first game was 1978 OU/Texas. I'm presently fighting a colon cancer diagnosis. Prognosis is good as it was caught in time. However, I'm with you the older I get, the less likely I'll see another. In regards to Zach leaving, there is no stability at Oklahoma right now, Brent is on the proverbial hotseat. Maybe Zach will get a head coach in the waiting situation there. They're are things with his move that we have no idea about.
@@Del-Scent Prayers sent for a speedy recovery.
@@Del-Scent Prayers indeed. For Sooner fans, life is football.... until it becomes about life. As for football, I honestly believe yesterday was the proverbial nail for BV and he told Alley to jump ship while he could get a good deal.
Texas is laughing at you Okies.😊
You underestimate Texas fans’ knowledge of the rivalry. They’re counting their lucky stars. They’ve seen the patterns both programs are in. That said, texans hafta laugh now. They can’t laugh when Oklahoma rallies back all the way no lousy.
Make Oklahoma great again!! Replace BV!!!🏈
He knows what is coming. I think he was smart.Venables is a joke.
Fake rebuttal
When Zac leaves the players have the right to transfer…. I hope this doesn’t get any worse!
He didn't recruit anyone
A WV fan here. The rumor here is we are giving Alley a 3 year contract at 1.5 to 1.8 million a year.
He already had that at OU. His leaving is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in Brent Venables.
Brent must have been calling defensive plays bc why would you leave oklahoma to go to a lower prestige school. Something aint right about the oklahoma program
Because he wants security. He’s not going down with BV
Never want Deion and the other guys are way too old and way too retired!
We made it through the decade of the 90’s, which was a ten year period of complete irrelevance. All these people with their hair on fire need to calm the f*ck down! This is no where close to as bad as it was back then. We had an asinine amount of injuries this year not to mention a brutal schedule, which gets even tougher next year, and untested first year starters at quarterback. Anyone who thought this year was going to be anything better than what it was needs to check themselves into a mental health facility. And next year isn’t going to be much better either. The schedule guarantees that. Losing Alley sucks, no doubt. But there are plenty of great defensive coaches out there who will love a chance to coach at Oklahoma. This is Venables’ wheel house. He’ll find somebody good. People just need to relax! This move to the SEC was a stupid move from the outset. I said it when it was announced and I still believe it now. But we are where we are. The only option now is to fight through this down period and make things better in the future. If we can survive the 90’s don’t tell me three years ends the program! That’s total bullsh*t! I still like Venables and believe he will be a good head coach ultimately. This is the era of instant gratification or blow the whole damn thing up! It’s pathetic and people need to be better and stop with this child like outlook on everything. Nothing in the real world works like that. It doesn’t work that way in college football either.
Well said Brother!
I agree with everything you say, but I do tire of somebody saying oh we'll be fine next year and then leaving 3 hours later. It's just a lack of Integrity in my opinion
It's a huge overreaction. The D needed BV's players. He has them now. Sure ZA was good, but he's not the only defensive talent in the CFB game. His secondary at OU was serviceable at best. When our defense began to break down in games we lost, it was the DB's that got burned. Isn't that ZA's group? We'll get a very good DC even if it's in house. I agree with you about the season. All the expectation was centered around an unproven 2nd year QB. And we moved into the best conference with the best defenses. We were bound to fail. My only gripe was that BV still struggled as a HC. We'll see how 2025 shakes out but we'll pretty much know by the 4th or 5th game if BV deserves to stick around. Even if he does win 8 games OU shouldn't start giving him an extension. We need to see at least 3 years of 8 win minimum seasons and an SEC challenger and at least 1 CFB playoff appearance. As of right now that seems unsurmountable, but let's just see before we give up on BV.
Love this comment, and totally agree. Sooner fans just need to relax. 6 and 7 won’t seem so bad next year when OU goes 5 and 7. BV is doing great, give the man a 5 year extension now. Hook’em!!!!!!😂😂😂
Is he bringing players from Oklahoma to WVU with him?
Most likely not
Things can't get worse...hold my beer
Not only can we not keep anybody but we can’t develop anybody
Have you heard who BV will hire as DC? Alley left him in a bind. It will be hard to get a good DC since there is a good chance BV gets fired next year if he doesn’t turn it around.
Good riddance!!! He let Navy QB run a 95 yd TD run. He obviously didn’t like to be micromanaged and have his plays overridden by BV
I'm not 😭 crying over a Alley Cat 😺 who didn't or couldn't recruit anyone in HS or the Portal. He proved he rode Venables coat tails and with no good recruits
True. However, it’s the optics of Zac leaving - right when we need for the program to be as unified as possible.
@lrvracer3515 I I understand that but it's Allie's loss going to a mid level school
How long does venebles have left?
If Zac Taylor gets fired from the Bengals, OU should nab him. He's from Norman, played QB at Nebraska so he's familiar with the area and the history. He would bring an NFL approach to this program that I think is going to become the norm in the future. Bring that Oklahoma boy back to Norman.
You had three dcs you’ll be fine
People always say a team is a reflection of their coach, but OU fans refuse to see that in their own head coach. He will do the BV thing and hire in house. So next year the defense falls completely off and the offense will be dynamite.
Band-Aids will not heal the deep wound we have here. Time has come to accept that BV is not able to take OU football to where it should be. 3 years has shown that. OU administration needs to figure out how to let BV go now.
He needs to be a defensive coach hes not head coach level at all its CLEAR!!!.. AND what he goes 8-5 next year at best and try and work off that contract? While the damage will be far worse to overcome
A step down? 2008 Fiesta bowl anyone? More money, more control and more security! A smaller school, but not a step down....lmao boomer!
One word. Saban. 2026 lets go!!!!
That’s what I’m dreaming of as well. Saban to OU. Make OU great again.
Relax guys, this is the state of college football. Fake injuries, buying players, portal jumping, and lack of loyalty. Smh
Instant RUclips drama. He’s the least of the problems.
OU’s program is a shit show.
That is correct, yes.
Norman U gives sh*t show a bad name
Dumpster fire.
No sh*t
Poo poo platter
I remember after Switzer how Donnie Duncan hired all these coaches that Switzer said would be great because they were program guys. They were Gibbs and Blake. We could have had Lanning.
Making room for greater things..
Maybe they should keep paying BV what there paying him and let him be the full time DC and go out and get a good head coach. Hell I don't know at this point.
He saw the obvious that Brent won’t make it past next year.
Everyone gives brent credit for being a good defensive coach. Who cares if he is the head coach and can't win games? The offense is the worst in the SEC and probably Big 12. And unless the defense is allowing only 50 yards a game, no one cares if they can't score to win.
you guys would not have survived the 1990's. Loose Switzer in mid summer replaced
with Gary Gibbs OK. Couldn't beat Texas, Nebraska. H. Schnellenberger lasted 1 year.
John Blake won 32% of his games. Yes this was worse!
There's a reason why he departed! Don't worry about it! Move forward.
Gary Gibbs has OU DNA.
Can "we" steal him away from oSu and Mike Gundy?
Something bad is going on that we don’t know an I think all bridges are being burnt so it’s time to step down venables
Could it be that Alley didn’t ask enough questions of BV during his recruitment?
The SEC doesnt have the offense that you see in the big 12. Of course the stats improved because they played weaker offenses and the opposition didnt need to match our offensive scoring. Play vanilla against OU. No need for tricks or gimmicks.
Zac Alley wants to be a head coach at a power 4 team. Best way to get a position like that is being part of a team that wins a conference championship. WVU has a legitimate chance of winning the BiG12 where OU has very little chance of winning the SEC. OU fans better come to terms that OU will no longer be a relevant program. They are now a Vanderbilt, a Mississippi State. Going to the SEC was a massive mistake. Unlike Texas OU can’t recruit for SEC football. Players wanting to play in the SEC don’t want to go to Norman Oklahoma when they also have offers from Florida, Georgia, or Alabama, LSU and Texas. OU is a sinking ship and Zac Alley got off before it goes down.
How many players will follow the Money to WVU following Alley?
One more losing season and Vena is gone, fired!
They know whats coming. Players and coaches leaving before they get taken down with BV. I feel like Arbuckle and Mateer are just coming in for a big payday. OU is not a real program anymore.
The guy on the left is overreacting.
Lincoln Riley was on to something when he left 😮
He was on a raise, Cali weather and taking all the talent with him.
Lincoln Riley left a mess behind. And... you see what stellar job he's doing at USC. He'll be gone from there soon after he's done making a mess of them too.
Why are Joe C’s failings never mentioned? This isn’t all on BV
It’s a step up to be the dc not assistant but the coach of the whole thing
I cannot believe it!