to be fair with BW protoss there isn't THAT much to figure out really because unlike SC2 protoss BW protoss lack in options from the robotics facility you very quickly will repeatedly see dragoon+templar/archons+reavers ... additional zealots if zerg goes for zerglings and against terran tanks the more interesting unit on the protoss is the arbiter and the dark archon
it but god this really shows how vastly different SC1 and SCII are the amount of ling runbys JD couldve done in this matchup is above and beyond I love how both players are scrambling so hard to figure out how to play xD
... why build corsairs against broodlords? why not scouts? wouldn't their AA be good enough? along with having "some" AG capability? or did the modders include the high cost of BW scouts into this?
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr that's where i'm wonderin if scouts would be useful BW terran at least have the valkyre, BW zerg technically the devourer ... but protoss using dragoon+templar all the time? ... hmmm
@@petercriscuola people really like to forget that EVERY game at one point was unoptimised (heck many AAA titles still are after years!) ... you are criticizing a fresh game made by an indydev, that's not even released yet, with rather unknown budget ... compared to a game made by a major large publisher that over the course of the decade went through 3 iterations its 1st one funded with a budget that rivals summerblockbuster movies ... i get it .. people have their expectations ... but for gods sake try to be somewhat realistic in your critique without being immediately dismissive of everything that is about to come out ..
@@MrTBSC the immortal is more expensive than a reaver, does less damage, damage is only decent against armored, has shorter range, and does no splash. Despite its original purpose, it dies extremely fast and still requires a shuttle (WP) to keep it alive. You know who asked to have the protoss army be nerfed in every way as a trade for proxy ability? Literally no one ever.
For the video comentators, if you're using broodwar then use legacy of the void...if you're going to use sc2, then use sc1 in your talks. Do better next time! Regarding armies, is good to see they sc1 is balanced to sc2. Even if the reaver does huge splash damage, it's the same with banelings. And the match was fairly balanced, the early protoss aggression leveraged the even more opressing zerg presence in late game without that protoss control of the match early. Protoss won because zerg threw away his army in that counter, didn't do a good base trade.
I love how fresh this feels in regards to unit comps not really being figured out, or anything really. Fun match.
to be fair with BW protoss there isn't THAT much to figure out really because unlike SC2 protoss BW protoss lack in options from the robotics facility
you very quickly will repeatedly see dragoon+templar/archons+reavers ... additional zealots if zerg goes for zerglings and against terran tanks
the more interesting unit on the protoss is the arbiter and the dark archon
I love that all the factions are known quantities but the clash between yhem is a complete unknown
Tasteless being unable to say maelstrom is always hilarious 😋
to lose 32 drones and still be 15 workers ahead... Damn JD. just wow
Zerg has a lot of worms.
It's nice seeing jd playing sc2 again
it but god this really shows how vastly different SC1 and SCII are
the amount of ling runbys JD couldve done in this matchup is above and beyond
I love how both players are scrambling so hard to figure out how to play xD
We need Jaedong plays Z1 and Hero plays T2 or Flash (T1) vs Dark (Z2). This will be insane.
Given how little detection zerg has in SC2. It feels like protoss should be building arbiters.
Where can we see Games 1 and 2?
its part of a team match, not a bo5
JD held on for so long because drone kills mean very little with queen injection. Losing hatch and tech structures were way worse for sc2 zerg
What platform is this played on ?
This is a mod for SC2
Starcraft 2 arcade is where you can look up mods
6:18 that realization LMAO
... why build corsairs against broodlords? why not scouts? wouldn't their AA be good enough? along with having "some" AG capability?
or did the modders include the high cost of BW scouts into this?
Real answer would be maelstrom storm
Broodlords tend to clump.
Not to mention that Corsairs would have to contend with Corruptor backup. There’s no way in hell Corsairs are busting through Corruptor bulk.
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr that's where i'm wonderin if scouts would be useful
BW terran at least have the valkyre, BW zerg technically the devourer ... but protoss using dragoon+templar all the time? ... hmmm
I’m loving this mod
Did they accidentally invite someone named stroke instead of stork? That reaver and storm micro was so hard to watch
i'm sure you could provide a much better showcase in a competitive match then ...
I'm so confused how Jaedong lost?
I feel zealots-archons-dragoons would be much more effective than pure dragoons...
per standart zealots-dragoons-templar when depleted into archons, the problem is still SC2 ultralisks to which BW toss have no propper answer
@@MrTBSC reavers counter ultras. Mass archons probably too.
@@MrTBSC reaversm ,ass archons
No SC2 Zerg should win here. Zealots are bad against everything - once you get vipers SC1 toss loses hands down.
Banelings are only good against workers. It has some value to kill workers, but it's a high price so it can definitely backfire.
great game!
This should be good
We dont need stormgate, this is the new best rts game!
right screw every other dev trying to make an RTS ... lets stick to ancient games ...
@@MrTBSC stick to what is better.
I hope stormgate gets better, during beta it was pretty bad.
@@petercriscuola people really like to forget that EVERY game at one point was unoptimised (heck many AAA titles still are after years!) ...
you are criticizing a fresh game made by an indydev, that's not even released yet, with rather unknown budget ...
compared to a game made by a major large publisher that over the course of the decade went through 3 iterations its 1st one funded with a budget that rivals summerblockbuster movies ...
i get it .. people have their expectations ...
but for gods sake try to be somewhat realistic in your critique without being immediately dismissive of everything that is about to come out ..
@@MrTBSC i know it was a beta, thats why i said i hope it gets better.
I really want it to be a good game.
Oh look, protoss with units that can actually do damage.
i suppose you don't know of the immortal
also SC2 toss have major proxy and mobility advantages over the other factions
@@MrTBSC the immortal is more expensive than a reaver, does less damage, damage is only decent against armored, has shorter range, and does no splash.
Despite its original purpose, it dies extremely fast and still requires a shuttle (WP) to keep it alive.
You know who asked to have the protoss army be nerfed in every way as a trade for proxy ability? Literally no one ever.
@@user-iu1ru1qz7u so you are saying stuff like warpgates+warpprism, stalkerblink adept shades etc. add jack to protossplay?
Sc evo is bae
Grat gaming from Stork
Seemed like the opposite to me. He didn't macro back at home and didn't even control his army. Maybe he was lagging?
JD is like the worst SC1 pro currently playing for a while now.
Wow
Rad
Holy shit Stork sucks with reaver micro. He did a better job shuttle microing the dragoons than the reavers.
Dragoon is better than stalker.
for people that can't proper micro yes ..
but stalker/dragoon vs vulture the stalker has a clear advantage cause of its mobility ...
Hell yea Stork!
proves how slow and boring sc2 is when a reaver is hitting zerg before it even has mutas
LOL
Sc2 is not slow and its not boring at all
Sc2 is not slow, it's just trash.
@@user-iu1ru1qz7u of course not.
sc2 is a great game.
maybe u suck in sc2, thats why u dont like it.
@petercriscuola I could suck or not at sc2, you'd never know, and the game would still suck LOL.
@@user-iu1ru1qz7u thats only your opinion.
The game is great.
For the video comentators, if you're using broodwar then use legacy of the void...if you're going to use sc2, then use sc1 in your talks. Do better next time!
Regarding armies, is good to see they sc1 is balanced to sc2. Even if the reaver does huge splash damage, it's the same with banelings. And the match was fairly balanced, the early protoss aggression leveraged the even more opressing zerg presence in late game without that protoss control of the match early.
Protoss won because zerg threw away his army in that counter, didn't do a good base trade.
Did they accidentally invite someone named stroke instead of stork? That reaver and storm micro was so hard to watch
I think everyone is still figuring out the pathing and micro.