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The best dirt bike for beginners & vet MX riders - how to choose the size 125cc-450cc
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- Hey guys, you asked me many times what is the best dirt bike for beginners motocross MX riders and for vet riders as myself, so today in this video I will give you my 2 cents on how to choose the best dirt bike beginners size for your MX riding. I have been on over 25 bikes in last year - 2 strokes dirt bikes and 4 stroke dirt bikes, from 125cc to 450cc. Check out the video and share your opinion & experience. Cheers
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125's are so great to learn on. Throttle control, momentum, no brakes, and cheap to ride. No downside really.
Couldn't agree more, thanks for sharing Alex!
I’m 265 pounds I’m enjoying my 450.
I think a 450 great for trails, climbing hills, sand dunes etc. But on the track it’s probably a little much for most weekends warriors. It’s easier to go fast when you don’t have to be responsible with the 450 power.
Well said
i agree but even on trails it’s still too much. you’re always feathering the clutch and they over heat and stall too much. 250f, 350f are way lighter and better handling for trails and motocross
I ride both mx and woods and personally the last bike I would ever want in the woods is a 450 especially in the tight stuff it wants to stall out easy and it makes you 1000 times more tired and it like to overheat very easily a 125 it’s almost easier to ride in the woods then a 450
I would get 450 as a dual sport, that makes the most sense for me. Thanks for sharing guys!
Thanks for making the vid, you did all the hard work brother.
Where I live tracks are really deep and loamy robs the crap out of the smaller bikes. I’m 51 A rider and have a yz450 and love the power. Some of my friends have smaller bikes and tell me to ride them and they are fun to play on but still like my 450.
thanks for sharing, makes sense. you are way better rider than most of us
I grew up riding 2 strokes. I absolutely love 2 strokes. But I also own a 19yz450 which was the first 4 stroke bike I've ever ridden and boy does that thing pull. The torque those 4stroke 450 have to me was mind boggling. I still feel way more comfortable on my rm250.
sounds good, thanks for sharing!
Just kinda started riding 2 years now but not much hour per year. 6 foot 200lb. I have a old xr400r and my gear was under 1800$. Love the bike. It’s my first and only. Wish I could afford more bikes. I trail/single track. Love the channel bro. Learning a lot
Thanks for sharing, appreciate it brother!
Im honestly a fan of 450’s but yet again Most of my riding is in baja which is open desert, dunes, enduro etc. But I also enjoy 250’s especially on tracks their definitely a lot of fun a-lot more friendly, light and forgiving if you make a mistake.
that makes sense, I had wr450 and that thing was great on open trails, I would get another one again.. MX is a different story tho, at least for myself
I guess I will put in my two cents for years when I was younger I raced Motocross off-and-on everywhere from 60cc all the way to 250 2 stroke I had not been on a dirt bike for over 20 years I am 43 now with a wife and two kids I bought myself a 250cc 2-stroke KX I ended up whiskey throttling and needed ACL and meniscus surgery needless to say it was way too much power for not riding for many years ended up trading it for a RMZ 250 4 stroke which I do believe is the perfect bike for somebody like me with pretty good experience but has not been on one in years these 250 Motocross four strokes have came light-years and Technology since the old 4-stroke trail bikes I am 100% happy with my 250 4-stroke RMZ perfect amount of power for a man my age that does not want to get killed my honest opinion nobody unless they are a professional Rider needs a 450cc motocross bike and by the way Rado I love the content and I love how humble and honest you are that makes you a better Rider and a better person in my book God bless my friend
Similar situation here. 36 yes old been of bikes for 15 years. I put my pride aside and avoided a 450 4T and 250 2T. Picked up a 2018 rmz 250 and couldn't be happier/safer. 250 2T is definitely an option down the road but not for awhile. Anyway enjoy the rmz man
@@j-sammys5549 thanks my friend U2
I'm 48 and I just picked up my first dirt bike since I was 15 - a (2016) 300XC. Needless to say that the bike scared me at first, but the more I ride it (safely), the more comfortable I feel on it - and I love you can lug it really low and it won't stall. Of course, with it not being a pure MX bike I suppose the learning curve is a little less extreme than being out on the track.
thanks for sharing guys, appreciate it! Sorry to hear about your injury Kyle, glad you are back on the bike!
I am glad I went with a 22 KTM 250 SXF it being my first bike it’s still a lot of bike for my skill level but I’m glad I didn’t listen to most bike salesman and get the 450 due to me being 250LBS. My 250 pulls me with no problem at all.
good decision Dennis, thanks for sharing!
It must have taken to so much work to get all the footage of the different bikes timed perfectly across the track. That was awesome, I could watch that all day long 😎. Your progression on the track is great to see, which bikes feel best, your skill improvement, how much fun you have with it and also the respect you have for how hard it is. I also recently discovered 350s and they’re awesome. Thanks for the hard work man, favorite channel by far. ✌️👍
thanks a lot brother, great feedback as always! really appreciate it! what 350 did you get?
@@dirtniron I got a 2021 Husqvarna FE350 and I have to say it's an incredible bike! It's surprisingly good in the technical stuff and a pleasure on the faster flowy trails. I don't ride the MX tracks, but I imagine it would be good there too. Modern bikes are so damn good these days. It's a great time to ride!
Rght on man, great bike, probably streel legal too. Did you have a chance to open it up yet? How about your old bike, did you sell 250rx?
@@dirtniron I didn't make it street legal, road riding is too dangerous these days. Of course I opened it up, it's fast! Too fast ha. I got the Get ECU for it and that made it run so good, especially in the lower end. For the RX, I actually just upgraded it with the RedMoto 300 kit and man that bike sings now! I don't think I'll ever sell my bikes, I get too attached to them. I just need to find more time to ride them all! :)
I let a couple people ride my 450 and all of them said it was scary fast. My neighbor has a 350f and 250 2stroke and rode a 450 in the past, and was saying the same thing, it's just insanely fast at any RPM. I rode his 350 and it was so much easier, it turned easier, didn't stand up in the corners instantly, didn't wear you out as quickly.
thanks a lot for sharing, glad you see it the same way!
I converted(ing) my 05 yz125 to a woods bike. Absolutly love it. Light, Nimbal and just fun. Agreed... it has made me a better rider.... jetting is crucial though. Need all those little hamster powers
hahaha, thats great! thanks for sharing man
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I love my crf450rx but I do agree it’s a lot of bike to handle and it requires a lot of throttle and clutch control to ride it safely in the woods but it’s amazing on open trails or flowing tracks. The power is what makes me smile and relit my passion for riding but I respect it
That being said my next bike will be a CRF250RX
thanks for sharing Brandon, sounds good!
have you tried a 2 stroke off road model? I have a '21 Husq te300i and I love it for all trail types. its mellow power for a 2 stroke but still has that power band hit that puts a smile on your face!
@@rah_84 I chose the 450 over a 17 TX300 husky. I haven’t been on a two stroke that I’ve really enjoyed in the past 23 years of riding. I’ll pick a four stroke any day. To each his own.
@@brandonfowler4240 right on man. I like 2 strokes for the trails here in New England. Maybe you’re out West where it’s more wide open? For motocross I like 4 strokes.
@@rah_84 I don’t do any motocross, but I’m in Oklahoma and it’s a pretty good mix between wide-open and tight trails. But my background is a bunch of old school XR Hondas. I just never got the two-stroke bug. I think they’re extremely capable I just do not prefer the way they put the power down and how they don’t really feel connected to the trail to me. They almost feel as if they float above it.
YZ125 🔥🔥🔥
I love my 1983 yz125
I have a 07YZ250F built up pretty nice for what I do. And I gotta say I don't think ill ever move up to 450. My bike already scares the shit out of me.
after quiet long time of riding , last year a found an incredible bargain from the dealer here on the 450 .. so i bought it , but soon later I discovered that it tend to run hot and the hot climate here is not helping unless i am riding in the winter time .. you’re right .. anything below 450cc is better for long range enjoyment riders 🤙🏻
thanks for sharing!
Great video! My choice for bikes are all two strokes. I have a modified Husky TE 250 2015 and Husky TC 250 2018. I also bought two 125’s and those are older but in great condition Kawasaki KX 125 1992 and Suzuki RM 125 1992. I’m a big guy and I weigh over 220 lbs but anyway even 125’s work well with my weight if I’m not riding in deep sand. I can imagine how fun they are when rider weighs around 150 lbs.
thanks a great info, thanks a lot for sharing Janne!
Great vid rado! I think for pure MX then a 250f or 350f is plenty for 90% of people out there. Me personally i do 70% riding at home in my yard and trails and 30% at my local mx track. So for me personally a 250f wasn’t quite power in my yard for me. But taking a 450 to the track is hard to handle for me but i still enjoy it alot. I also had a hard time pulling the trigger on a 250f because of maintenance cost. I heard the 250f’s dont last as long and need rebuilt alot more often and im personally not a rich guy so going as long as i can safely before engine rebuilds was important for me. I still haven’t rode a 350 yet but definitely hope to in the future!
John, I think 350 would be a great bike for you
You make excellent content. Keep up the good work
Thanks Vincent, appreciate it
I really thought that a 450 would allow me to ride less aggressive and be more lazy. I thought I would be able to ride more laps without getting exhausted. I discovered that is not the case at all. The 450 feels way heavier even though on the scale it's within 5 pounds of a 250f. I can only ride about half as many laps that I can on my 250 4t. For that reason alone, a 450 is too much bike. The newer 250f's have the power to clear any jump I'm willing to do also. In my opinion, the only place a 450 might be better would be free riding in sand dunes. Anywhere else a 450 is not going to make anything better, easier or faster.✌️ Thanks for the great content
I thought the same thing, 450 just wares you out and when you hands get tired all you do is concentrate on not whiskey throttling.
thanks a lot for sharing guys, great info! appreciate it!
Thanks mate. Really helpful info for a 51 year old getting into riding. My son is 9 and on a 90cc, i need to ride with him cause he can't pick up the bike when he drops it. Yet. So I had no clue what to look for in a bike. I appreciated the your take on bike sizes. It will help me choose a 250 now in the coming weeks. Thank you.
Glad to help, have fun with your boy!
When I turned 30 and no longer had to race 17 year old crazy kids I bought a RM 125. Loved beating the big bikes.
125s are so much fun!
Even Betas higher bore four strokes aren't a bad option for a beginner. The 350RR has got good power, but wont rip your face off. I ride a KLX 300R, things a tractor and has more power then I'll ever need.
thanks for sharing Colton!
A lot of dirt bikers are rediscovering the fun that can be had with the small bore bikes (125) and how well worth it is too keep a small bore in your stable. I am looking to jump back into dirt biking with a 125 of some sorts.
Right on! thanks for sharing!
Just upgraded to 450 and honestly loving it. Great vid tho earned a sub
ive always prefered the smaller more nimble 250 class
You make some great points here, the only point I might mention is being safe and faster, maybe say being more proficient leads to being safer in this inherently risky sport? And for some guys the 450 especially offroad will save you in some cases where you might lack clutch control, or are heavier 220+ and a 125 or 250f is going to lack the bottom end to climb something without really attacking the obstacles. But on the track I agree 100%
thanks for sharing Steve, appreciate it!
@@dirtniron you keep doing what you’re doing, this is great work as it always is! Thanks for keeping us entertained and providing great insight!
Started with a YZ250f and swaped it for a yz125 and Im way happier and more comfortable on it.
thanks for sharing
I absolutely love what you do mate, you deserve everything awesome, great channel and content thank you.
I appreciate that Jim, thanks a lot!
Any recommendations for me? Im 5’6 and only road my friends dirt bike a few times when we were kids forgot which exact one but it was a honda tho the guy at the bike shop said i should get a tt-r125 i feel like i will outgrow it in less than 6 months so it will be a waste i was looking at the crf150r but read about the maintenance and how its not that reliable not sure how accurate that is and was looking at the yz100 I dont know what to get as my first bike i will admit im nervous to get a 2 stroke and i heard there is more maintenance with those
Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast!
As a 25 year vet rider I personally like to go with a 110 because it’s nice and not to to scary
That 94 honda 125cc was beautiful ❤
Great clip! Exactly what I needed to know as I am looking to upgrade from my CRF 230f. RMZ 250 it is then.
Glad it was helpful! good luck !
Great video Rado, where was this last year! I ride woods and found out I wasn't ready for my KTM 300, I didn't have enough throttle control and the power kept me from focusing on my technique. One of my riding buddies has the 125x and your comments also apply to woods riding. For beginners (at any age) there's a lot of techniques that are hard to learn no matter what bike you're on, trying it on a bike with too much power (for your skill level) will hurt progression. I'm on the waiting list for a 125x thanks to your videos and excited to really start learning. I'm keeping my 14' KTM 300 in hopes that I'll grow into it and have it for a change of pace (it only has 100hrs). Look forward to more of your content.
thanks for sharing brother, really great info! I have to agree with everything you said, also that 125x will be great for you and I am pretty sure you will grow into that 300 as well. Have fun!
My 98 KX 125 is perfect for me. 250 is great too little more power. 2 strokes all the way baby!!!!
Right on!
Good video, but I love my 450.
Fair enough!
As far as trail riding. Id take 250 for the single track stuff and 450 for open desert riding or dual sports.
Should i get suzuki ts 125 for $500 used or should i get something better for $1000
DUDE I LOVE THE VIDEO OF YOU SWITCHING BIKES
thanks dude, glad you like it!
Like KTM 125 2018 ❤❤❤😬LOVE
Good video and sound logic.
I was surprised you didn't include or mention a 300. Is there reason for that? I know they are XC bikes, but so is your 125X.
Thats because I dont ride 300 on the track so I have no experience to share. I might spent some time on the track with my slovakia build, lets see. Thanks for the comment brother 👍
The 300's have more reciprocating mass so they're not as free revving as say a 250 which make them a bit less fun on a track imho.
@@dirtniron Seeing the Slovakian 300 on the track would be great.
Most people think that getting a 450 is like moving up a class, which it is in the power department, like getting a 125 from an 85, more power and a different size, but in all reality, it is only something you should move up to if you are feeling you actually need more power and the bike is what is limiting you not your skill, I have an easy time blasting out of corners on a 450 with all of the torque but am slower on a 250, not because the I need the 450 but because I need more power
Great cuts in and out of different bikes, I dig it.
Hey 125 are the best,I`m interest in buying one
The 1983 yz125 is probably one of my favorites to ride I have a rmx250 as well I have been on lots of bikes but the 1983 yz125 is the fastest 125 I've been on
right on, thanks for sharing Justin!
No problem have a great day
I had one as well! great bike! My next bike was a 90' YZ125 that I had ported. It ran like a raped ape
Yeah the 250 has a hard time keeping up with the 125 I'm doing a frame off restoration on the 125 bringing it back to original and everything new
This is why I'm 30 years old with a 140cc 160pound bike
Ordered a 2022 yz125x, can’t wait to try it
congrats man, you will love it!
been some odd 20 yeas since i've last sit on one of those, but im coming back. despite my (egoistic that is) wish of getting 450, im more inclined to 250 (2 or 4 stroke). being close to 250lbs, im kinda torn between yz /yzf 250 and KTM xc/XC-f 250. which would suit better for some light track and 50-50 forest -fire roads use?
Thank you so much for posting this.
I couldnt find info about the right CCs for heavy guys. Unbelievable!
Look at the Beta 350 rr. The 2 you mentioned are more of a race set up. I’m 60 and bought a GasGas ex350f for trails in KY
@@rookietrucker1240 would love to get one, but even second or third hand ones are at least 20% pricier than most MX bikes on used market...they are awesome to ride though.
I'm pushing 50 I'm not aggressive anymore I just sold my 450 in order to 350 I hope it wasn't mistake
I think you will love it. Please share your feedback once you have 350
Great video. No comments on the 250 two stroke!?
not yet, I need to spend more time on 250 2t on the track to get some experience..
My 250 2 stroke is also to strong for me. I should go down for 125. And I ride 10 years now
thanks for sharing Alex!
Great bikes you were riding
Thanks Preston, yea pretty good bikes!
Thanks
No problem
Like Yz125x ❤😅👍
I'm 26 an just got into bikes im 5'4 in height an have a 99 suzuki rm250 lol yea the bike is tall for me an trying to find the right size 2 stroke
i find it funny how dealerships will order a ton of 450's then they sit there for months. i dont know why they cant take a hint that 450's arent being sold
these days everything sells, but yea.. normally you see 450 leftovers..
Yamaha 125 X 2 stroke would it be good for trail riding if it was stock
Great trail bike
yes its a great trail bike
my yz250x is faster than a regular yz,but the x is a trail bike
Great video with great advice. Planning to follow in your footsteps and start riding MX. At t=846 you recommend starting with a 250 2-stroke. Did you mean a 250 4-stroke? If so, is there a reason to prefer a 250 4-stroke rather than starting on a 125 2-stroke? Also, is a 250 2-stroke a good alternative for the 350 4-stroke once you are able to control the 125 2-stroke ?
250 4stroke is the easiest bike to ride and learn on. I would recommend to start there. 125s are fun but much harder to ride them correctly, might be counterproductive as a first bike.
Great info Rado. I am in the 450 boat. Yeah it is fun but I don’t see it improving my skills. I am currently looking for a 250 or 300. A 450 is cheating because i have only been to the track 3 times and almost clearing the long jumps BUT, suck at cornering🤦♂️.
thanks for sharing Dave, I think 350 would work great for you
125 is enough for me.u know y? I don't have enough money to buy 250 or 450cc..huhuhu good job sir.
Great video man
Glad you enjoyed, thanks man!
Hey Rado...love the channel! I'm in my early 40's, roughly your build, and I have around a year riding in the dirt. I've ridden street bikes my whole life though. I bought a TTR230 last year to start riding with my sons, but now I'm eager to upgrade to something a little more advanced. I ride mainly on trails, but I'd like to start riding tracks as well. I've been debating between a YZ250F and a YZ125X...two entirely different bikes, I know. I love the idea of a two stroke...the simplicity, the sound, the power curve...everything about it. But I feel as though a 250 might be a better choice, particularly for the more consistent power delivery and ability to "lug" it around as I become more proficient on the track. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance!!!
I think 4stroke is smoother and easier to ride, especially 125 2strokes take a lot of effort to ride them well. Did you think about yz250fx? Great for trails and very capable on the track as well. I had one before and loved it. Have fun with your sons! 👍
I saw your video on the 250fx, and it definitely seems like a great option also, particularly vs the 250f given the type of riding I'll be doing. Thanks for the suggestion, and keep up the great content!!@@dirtniron
Hi mate I'm 5.11 220 lbs would stock YZ 125 suspension take me in your opinion.
Thanks, and great skills 🫡
hmmm... I am about the same, 10lbs lighter and I was doing ok on stock 125x but it would help to get it done tho. I am sure they come stock for much lighter guys. as long as you land where you should you probably wont feel much but when you come short or OJ the jumps you will want to have more suspension..
I am is from Honduras ❤✌❤❤
Yz 250 2 stroke best begginerr bike.
At least i started on one
cool, thanks for sharing.. its a lot of bike tho..
@@dirtniron i had a blast learning it on a sand track tho
Can keep it pined alot and its just a blast
To the beginners reading this: A 250 2-stroke is not a beginner bike. You'll probably get hurt. :)
@@trn450 i was a beginner and i didnt get hurt ... its all about respecting that power and not doing something that is out of your ability... i rode this bike track only for 1 years about twice a week and now i can pretty much clear everything at my local tracks and im faster then some people that has been riding for longer then me too ... i only got hurt when trying to scrub (rip colarbone) but when i tried it again , and again, and again , im starting to feel more comfortable and making less mistakes
@@kirizaki8194 that’s fair. There are always exceptions. I should have said they are much more likely to get hurt. Not that they’re guaranteed to get hurt.
I've been wanting a 125cc 2-stroke because I've loved them ever since I was a kid -- but I've never owned one so I'm hoping in the future that I can own one soon. I'm a 46-year-old first time rider and would like your own opinion about MY choice for a dirt bike, please??
yes, I think 125 will put smile on your face. It is harder to ride it but once you learn how to ride it you will be super happy on it. 250f is way easier to start on..
@@dirtniron Thank you for your prompt reply and nice reply.
with the app you can tune Austrian 450 easiest than 350
I know myself, I would have it on the faster map very soon
I've ridden 350s since 2013 but got a 450 husqvarna last year with the app. The mellow settings make feel almost like a 350 with extra torque. I find it easy to ride. Just for fun I tried fastest map. Way to much for a old guy.
"Let me start out by saying that the 450 four strokes will always be too much bike for you and for me..."
That statement made the rest of the video completely irrelevant, especially given the title of the video...
*Edit: I'm 6'1" and 240 lbs...*
Yep, I have an uncorked WR450 that I never ride, 3 years now. I kept getting hurt, I guess I'll sell it. I like my YZ250FX
where are you at? I'll buy it from you soon! lol
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@@jonathondavis170 SW Utah
Dang that's not good. Yeah that 450 cc is a beast.. ride the safest bike! That 250fx is an EXCEPTIONAL machine.
ktm exc 500 easy to ride.
yea, for dual sport trails.. this video is focused on straight MX bikes and MX riding
you're right a 450cc is too small for a fat 34 years old like me, i need to buy a kx 500 😅
I’m 6’1 220; the smaller bikes just don’t do it for the bigger dudes. I Know I’m not as fast as a A or B class guy just due to coming from college fb but without the hp it feels like I’m ragging a smaller bike out. I feel almost unsafe on a underpowered bike.
thanks for sharing man! how does 350 feel?
all the best
same to you
i tried to downgrade from a 450...had to go back to it faaassst
The truth is that not which one I would choose, they are all beautiful, but the sound of the Ktm Sx makes me fall in love
yea, 125cc sound so good!
KLX300R owner, but all I want is a KTM 350XCF !!!
that bike would make you happy!
@@dirtniron Going to research it more and see if I can go sit on one. I also have a Suzuki SV650 so between the SV and the KLX300R my throttle and clutch control is responsible and mature. I think I would be the same way on the 350. Plus we have wide open areas out here in Cali.
I have a question do you need a license to ride a dirt bike in the street at New York
I mean road
yes you need a license and a street legal bike, normally dirt bikes are not street legal
Where did you test these bikes at???
Cahuilla Creek MX
@@dirtniron I'm gonna have to make it out there one day
@@dirtniron it looks awesone
I have a yz250 and a kx450f
Yz is fun because is light
But 450 is crazy fun because all torque in all gears
yea, the power is addictive
And what about a 250 2 stroke?
I need more time on them, not much experience yet
i love em..powerband will scare u u if u never rode 2strokes.sudden burst of speed
So my Husaberg fx650e is over kill. Lol
I KNOW I'M A AVERAGE RIDER ,I GO OUT TO HAVE FUN , STAY SAFE AND PRACTICE .LOVE FROM CANADA DAVE .
sounds good Dave, thanks for sharing!
How about a YZ250 for beginners?
In my opinion I tried riding 125 250 450 and see what you like or perfer I ended up loving 125 and 250 but if you have never really rode Id start with a 125
its a lot of bike too, that 250 2stroke power is no joke. It is possible but not ideal
yz 250 def not for beginners!!
The rmx I have alot people of rode it said its a handful It's a 1989 frame with a 1993 engine has no problem keeping up with 450's but on straights the 450 has more top end
I personally find the 2-stroke powerbands more unwieldy. Maybe not as much power/torque, but they can often suddenly want to tear out of your hands when they hit their powerbands. I'd not get a 250 2-stroke as a beginner bike unless you're an enormous person.
hi🙌
250 4 stroke or 450 for sure if you wanna compete, for fun probably 125 2 stroke
thanks for sharing
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How much did it cost to make it 270cc?
roughly 1000 - 2000 depends what you want to do, sometimes you can get away with stick ECU and dont need to get mapped Vortex. On our 2020 YZ250FX we just installed the kit and the hot cams and it ran great, kept the ECU stock
Anyone else about 220 pounds riding a 125?
i am 200lbs.. some guys commented on my other videos who are over 200
I like your bike sir..
thanks Sir!
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RM250 2T
I dont have a lot of time on 250 2t on the track, they are fun for sure
But I want to launch over the mountain not climb the mountain.
450's teach respect.
sometimes in a painful way ;)
@@dirtniron So true, lol
I know I do lol
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Dame why u say my crf 450r not good learner bike 🤔😁😂
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I ride sand too...the 450 is the beef i need to keep it moving with out soinning the motor...so, keep the ruskie opinions to the ruskies. :)
So this is a thing with 4 or 5 big youtube channels in the last 6 weeks. I dont believe in coincidence. Who is pushing this anti 450 narrative? What’s the plan? Tank 450 sales?
thats hilarious Jack! first of all thanks for putting me in the basket with "big youtube players"
I have been feeling like this since like 2-3 years ago, and frankly the industry guys I know are also feeling better on smaller bikes, 450 is just a lot of bike. I heard Ryno was saying the same stuff on some podcasts, who else is saying that?
@@dirtniron
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I can find those quickly. There’s a couple more I’ve seen plus yours. It’s been weeks so... It just seems strange that enthusiasts would want less dirtbikes. Or less dirtbike. I say advocate for more training and less of something unhealthy. And...you do have a big channel. I dont know what the numbers are but youtube recommends it. I like the content too. But we disagree on this one. I mean, you can say anything you want. It’s your platform.
@@jackrussell9744 thanks for sharing, I've seen the one by Ryno. Why would you think I advocate for less dirtbikes? I never said that, entire channel is based on the passion and love for the dirt bikes. I share what I experience. I think having proper bike would help you to build the skills and eventually stay safer and ride more. Check some other comments, people are having same conclusion and some of them went thru the same phase of 450 as I did. Also, its completely fine to have different opinion, appreciate your input Jack, take care!
@@dirtniron
Well, because sales of different models is the only thing that keeps them in production. If 450 sales drop, companies will stop making them. If they aren’t produced, they wont be raced. And....just because a model goes away doesn’t guarantee that it will be replaced by more of some other model or a new/better replacement.
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Fake news 450s are great machines even for a casual woods/trail rider. They have plenty of bottom end and the engines last a long time since you dont have to run as many revs
. As far as the weight difference it is very little. If 450 doesnt work for you then thats fine but you said yourself you haven't been riding dirtbikes that long and you dont even race so your still more so a student.
I was talking about MX riding only, its in the title of the video and I said it many times in the video as well, and yes I am fresh in the sport as I said in the video..
check out what former pros have to say about 450: ruclips.net/video/oINqUgdB6Kc/видео.html
I have been riding for decades and I can assure you that there is no ''fake news'' here. Being able to ride a 450, like most riders in fact, does not mean that this is the most appropriate all around bike. On a track, as said by former pro rider like Ryan Hughes and many others, a 450 is too much for almost all riders. Not that we can't ride them, being too scared or anything like that, just that they are not the best amateur bikes for different reasons. I Have a big smile each time I am on a 450, loving that low end monster power, but I am not any faster with them than I am on a smaller bike. And the weight difference, even if it seems small, and also the bigger crankshaft, have a huge impact on the overall feeling and handling. I have a 450 and a 350 and can tell you that the 350 is much easier and nimble, while being very fast. The limit is the rider, not the bike. Tony Cairoli won a few world championships on a 350 against 450's...
I keep reading in these comments that they overheat, A LOT. ?