What's The BEST Dirtbike For A Big Guy? | 2023 Big & Tall Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Presented by Fasthouse
A few years ago, we realized that not all riders are created equal when it comes to height and weight. Of course, varying speeds and abilities affect how each bike can suit individual riders, but what about sizes? That's why for 2020 we started the Swapmoto Live Big and Tall 450 Shootout, as plenty of larger-than-average riders and racers purchase 450cc dirt bikes. How does the new Yamaha suit someone over 6' tall? Does the KTM WP air fork pump up firm enough for a 250-pound rider? We wanted to know!
Alas, thanks to our friends at Fasthouse, we present to you the fourth-annual Big and Tall 450 Shootout. For this comparison, we recruited our in-house Clydesdale, Dominic Gaytan, and rounded out the tester panel with Twenty-Three Media's Michael Corlee and Shock Therapy Racing's Steve Piatonni. All three riders tip the scales over 220 lbs. and they range in height from 5'8" to 6'3", and all have many years of riding experience and can get around. the track at impressive speeds.
Best bike reviews on the planet. Not everyone is a horse jockey and seeing these done for us big dudes is great! It is hard enough to know every bike will need resprung for us, but hearing how the cockpit and adjustability of the bikes suits tall dudes is great.👍 Keep up the great work.
Your channel is kool Randy
Thank you guys for these. As a 6’3 guy that fluctuates from 200-220 we never can get enough good reviews from “larger” folks
Did you get a bike?
@@ruperttristanblythe7512, I’ve got a 17’ ktm 450xc and a ‘23 ktm 300 xc. I’m also down to 185-190lbs now as well which has been from racing my local XC series and riding a lot.
I recently lost over 20lbs since I've had my '21 yz450f and now my weight is within the factory suspensions limits. I'm around 5'8" in boots and weigh 185lbs. For me it's always about maximum power and speed. When I took delivery of the bike it was a death trap. Nothing was adjusted properly for me. After all the mods and getting the bike dialed for my riding preferences, it's feels like a completely different motorcycle. The yz has unlimited tuning potential with the custom mapping for the ECU. For someone to say a bike has too much power and thus harder to ride is ridiculous. It takes maybe 5-10 minutes to create and load custom maps into the ECU. Get with the program guys.
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You've always had the best content on bikes test so that's a no brainier but what us big guys needs is what gear to wear. The sizes are so different from brand to brand it would really help a lot.
I agree, but the problem is that every brand keep changing the sizes from year to year. At the moment, for me, Thor fits good, they have roomy (and big) sizes without being too baggy and the arms are long enough (most brands have too short arms, and I hate that! :)
Thank you for keeping us big guys in mind!
as a Clydesdale myself, I really appreciate that you guys do this shoot-out!
Very cool.
Possibly the biggest market of riders and some more of these tests would be interesting.
Thanks so much for these big dude video's guy! I'm 40, 6.0' 300ish dude. Been riding dirt and street all my life, Enzo suspension for my 2006 YZ450 and a CR tall handlebar, K-Tech Suspension and Helibar Trackstar clipons for my ZX10R. Klim and Thor make plenty of gear for Big dudes in the dirt, and RST/Icon make tons for the street track. Never let being bigger, stop you from enjoying bikes!
I hit like before it even started :) Thanks for the great reviews as usual.
I'm a very large man, I'm 6' 5" tall and 290 I've owned and ridden a cr500 for years but the new 4 stroke 450s are crazy
My favorite of the year. Great add with Steve. Guy is fast, knows his stuff about suspension and bike set up.
Someone send Dommer some grips please.
Where’s the love for the short guys !!!? Some of us are closer to troll trains size
What is short? I am 172cm (5'8) and I am very short in my country (the Netherlands).
184cm is average ( near 6'1).
Another year another chance missed. 6'4" fit 240lbs pounds A rider just waiting for a chance , I need to see the tall in shape dudes , viking Bros.
Just get a Yamaha.
This is awesome. I am 6'4" and I ride a 2004 crf450r. It's still a little cramped.
Get taller suspension
Interesting video.
Seems to me the review should have been modified to have the suspension “adjusted” to a heavier median weight of these test riders. Say spring and revalve form 200# or 210# and then evaluate them. Am I wrong with this thought?
Thank you.
AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB FANTASTIC VIDEO
That was RAD! Steve is the best!!!
6,7.5 and 285 here
I've got a 2015 crf and I love how reliable it's been. I never have any problems with it and I'm tough on it. However it is the worst handling bike I've ever had. I'm never able to get confident in corners, or slick hard pack.
Which bike would you recommend to a MX beginner rider, 6‘1“, 220lbs, weekend warrior, 15 years street bike and 5 years racetrack experience? Would a 250f also fit? 🤷🏼♂️
Hard for me to understand that the ktm husky and gas gas can be so different from each other lol!!
Great stuff
Im a big guy dont see much out there for big guys.
Thanks
Josh G
Awesome review and soo much more practical for us weekend warriors than hearing from pro level riders. 👍
Look forward to this every year 🤘🤘
I'm 6'3" 220 and love the Yamaha
New 23 model I sold
My 21 model coz was to cramped haha was gonna go kx or the new yzf
Meant to say is yours the 23 model **
21
@@jimbo4203 how tall are you and weight what have you done or changed to the bike
@@adamrochester1 I had a FMF megabomb full exhaust and graphics but nothing else to make it fit me better, I just got used to it
5'7 220, what's crack a lackin! Moto track? 450 all day. (Had 15,17 yz450 didnt handle to well ran well though, currently on a 19 rmz with kyb rear shock) Overall best bike woods, moto etc? YZ250 2 stroke
Keep ripping
So, if these guys are big dudes, I guess at 6'6" and 250# is out of luck for a bike review.
Great job fellas. Loved the 180lb small guys comment. Vet guy myself but 6'3" 170. Ouch! ✊💪✌️😉 OLD G
I asked and you gave it !! Thanks for the video !!
Yamy/ kawi it will be for me then I don’t care about motor I care about how it feels I sold my yzf450 21 model because I felt to cramped I was seat bouncing all jumps standing felt awkward. Any one else had this problem? Has any one switched from a yz to a kx or a kx to a yz for this kind of problem recently in the 2023 model ?
I had 21 YZ450F. It felt really cramped for me as well. At that time I had 2019 ktm and my son had 19 kx450f so we both switched bikes back and forth. Both are 6 foot tall. 21 Yamaha was noticeably more cramped then ktm and kx. I tried yz bars in forward hole but still didn't like ergos. Fork was good and liked mapping after I smoothed out the hit with app. Currently I'm on 2021 kx450f. Love the kawasaki over my ktm and the yz I had.
@@stephenmiley5804 yep exactly same here !! try the new yz best thing ever you will love it
The hardest part to adjust as a tall guy is the cockpit. I think all brands should offer something like "2Tall-racing" had, where you raise the subframe and tank instead of having a ridiculous looking high seat. With that mounted on my bike I don´t have to pull so hard with my arms to get from sitting to standing, and/or blowing my knees doing so.
Love the channel, one for horse jockey’s next please 😂
Thanks fellas 🎉
What a fun day!
Just something to throw out there I work on these for a living the cost of Yamaha parts are probably the cheapest out of all of them and then Honda......just a example Yamaha timing chain 20 same chain but Kawasaki it's 80.
What would you recommend for hare scrambles if your 6'1 300
@@queemoss7066 I'm a two-stroke fan probably a yz250x but u being 300 lb I'd go with yzf450fx
Now we need small and short shootout
I’ve never riden one before but seems like I just got to go sit on them
Ah this is good. All the bikes are so small for me
Hey Don, send me a set of Temecula Fender graphics.
Love to see a smaller guy shootouts as well. Since I myself am a smaller 5'9 135 to 140lbs 450 rider
Where is the Suzuki?
Add 250s and 350s next time
I don't get why or how the Austrian bikes can be the best and worse. Are they all just that close
Go Benny winning Anaheim
But the gas gas has a KTM motor.
A CR500 with bar risers 🤣
Where is the Suzuki ????????
Bike didn't change. See 2018 and up for any reviews.
@@jpesicka999 Do the Zuki have electric start?
How do you guys test all the manufacturers bikes but Suzuki???? That’s really biased guys, unless Suzuki said you guys can suck a &@&! and never sponsored you one to test??
The bike hasn't changed since 2018, there's no bias here, see old reviews or videos not even a month old where they feature the bike with Scubdaddy. Suzuki is the value option in a league of it's own.