Me: Clive looks sick! Maybe time to get into tekken, let me watch this guy, I've heard he's educational Phi: "Go watch this other quick Clive guide video before this one" Me: oh okay, I'll watch that first. Phi: "Go watch the tekken fundamentals guide before this one" 😭Brother
Most character guides assume that you know about the terminology and concepts, so learning that should be your first priority. Ofc you should also just have fun with the game
I mean, it's that or you watch a single three hour video for every character you're interested in. One video is universal basics, one video is a character overview, and one video is showcasing real world scenarios for how to use the moves in the overview. Recapping basics in every character overview would be extremely inefficient. Think of each video as different chapters in a textbook. If you're studying a specific topic, you skip to the chapter(s) relevant to your research.
Phi is hustling sending you in a wild goose hunt, hahah! nah, this game is super hard and complex so having those videos to help you know what to pay attention to is really helpful. Hope you pick up the game!
Dude, I feel so happy to see how enthusiatic you are with clive, really hope you had find your real main! Cheers!! Also, everytime I see PHX (phoenix stance), I read PHDX, so fitting.
I'm going to have to eat some tasty humble pie on this one, I wasn't sure about Clive at first but after seeing him and playing him, he's awesome, I'm having a lot of fun with him. I'm actually enjoying Tekken 8 for the first time in a while. Thanks for the guides man, I might dedicate some time into learning him more and I'm sure they'll help a lot. I should also get around to playing FF16 so I know his story.
This is one of my favorite Tekken videos ever. I absolutely love Clive and you made him look absolutely sick in this video, incredible gameplay and walkthrough. 🔥
All my friends playing Clive "Oh he's got some Jin stuff" "Oh he's got some Victor stuff" "Oh he's got some (insert main here) stuff" Gonna be a pocket for a lot of people i think, unless he gets nerfed to oblivion
@@alexonstott4954 drag was dead from the release all he has is fake launch punishable mixup and wall travel, b1+2 is too slow and qcf4 is stepabble (always has been)
F2, 2, 2 is twitch confirmable, wall splats, and gives a full combo with heat dash. The second hit is safe on block, and it has really long range. It’s somewhat linear but still very strong.
I loved this! I love hearing you talk through your thinking as you're playing, as a learning beginner/intermediate player it's really helpful to hear your thought process, i'd watch an even longer video of you doing this with any character just to see how an expert tekken player thinks during an actual match and APPLIES the theory that we talk about in other videos - great content!!
This type of video is always awesome!! We can see the gameplan and making the adjustment when the opponent started making a counter play. It is so applicable!! I hope u can show us with every character in the future
I’m a relatively new (semi-serious) Tekken player. Last one I played was Tekken 7 to get Platinum trophy and dabbled in T3 way back when. Clive is my new main but I will continue to learn Mishimas since there is guaranteed continuity.
Phid predicting and calling out things that will happen live is just so cool and hilarious at the same time. Bro is not just reading their gameplay but their psychological behavior
The more people play Clive the more they will realize to not just (try to) use Level 5 all the time. Currently everyone I play online just tries to get max level Zen, whereas I think it is much better to use lower level ones when you can. It's MU dependant, some people will let you build fast whereas some will not.
I went to a local yesterday to play Clive and got washed💀. I was struggling with his small tekken game, so I'm gonna try to implement more PHX in neutral towards patient opponents respecting b2 and f1+2. Didn't think of using manual transition before like you did, we'll see how it goes!
Great video Phi! Always love the breakdowns. Now I just wish I could play analytically but I seem to struggle in adapting mid set and understanding how the opponent plays 😂 too reactionary I suppose
@ I appreciate actual advice regardless. So unsolicited is fine. Yeah sometimes I think my brain is moving faster than it needs to be. Need to remember to breathe lol.
It took me a lot of time to finally find my main and become a Victor enjoyer. I used to feel a bit ashamed from being called carried due to the safe power crush and stuff. Now I can enjoy him without having a weird misconception about my personality.
Playing Victor is actually very fun, but people online are still so butthurt about him it's crazy. I usually play him, Lars or Azusena and the amount of tbags, ki-charges and one-and-dones I receive on Victor is so much bigger than the rest, lol.
Phi what do you think about making a guide specifically for FF players who are trying to get into Tekken only to play Clive. Something that will cover only the basics of Tekken that are relevant to playing Clive. Something like: -This is a low that Clive has that the opponent can only block if they duck which opens them up to this mid. -This is a running move that gives you a lot of advantage and puts you in stance and lets you act before your opponent. -This is a launcher that lets you juggle your opponent and combo them for huge damage but its unsafe because if the opponent blocks you they get a free attack on you. -This is a mid move that has a lot of range and is safe meaning its frame disadvantage is less than 10 so the opponent cannot get any free attacks on you since the fastest move in the game is 10 frames (jab) Etc.
As someone mains King and Lidia, I did NOT expect to like Clive as much as I do. King and Lidia just kind of make sense to me moveset wise but Clive is taking a little work for me to figure out. Definitely need to put the lab time in for sure.
I think you shouldn't go into Phoenix shift during strings when it's minus. If it's blocked opponent can down jab and it counters all the options. On hit you have better safer options. So it only should be from strings that makes you plus.
Phi can you please dedicate at least a section of the video to teach us how to utilize Clive's parry? I really loved noctis' parry move in T7 and I've been waiting so long to find a parry move I would love to do, Clive just has it. I'd like to base my fighting style around parrying and having lots of mental ground on my opponents.
Phidx what do you think about the sword moves that build meter? They leave ALL grey health, would it be better to use the other moves that do more damage, while also leaving less grey health?
Waiting for him to fuly come out cuz Im not buying the pass for one char. But this char I enjoy seeing on my screen like Lars so I hope Clive can be my secondary main.
idk if it’s rude to point this out, but you are HEAVILY under utilizing the power crush, especially in the bryan matchup, it’s good to bait in the jab and then power crush to eat the move and gain neutral, amazing damage as well
nah not for me, the big problem i have whit this character is not how broken he is; The problem is that there is so much shit on the screen that I don't understand what he's doing, I literally don't see his movements. If Eddy already looks the same to me, this one is worse. when it's on fire you can't see anything so as long as it stays like this for me I'll be one of those who if he sees you using clive he won't give you a rematch it doesn't matter lose or win Maybe I'll get used to it over time but I definitely don't like it.
Me: Clive looks sick! Maybe time to get into tekken, let me watch this guy, I've heard he's educational
Phi: "Go watch this other quick Clive guide video before this one"
Me: oh okay, I'll watch that first.
Phi: "Go watch the tekken fundamentals guide before this one"
😭Brother
It's TEKKEN, it's a fighting game afterall. Clive has been adapted in a masterful way so you best believe the devs behind TEKKEN are great
Most character guides assume that you know about the terminology and concepts, so learning that should be your first priority. Ofc you should also just have fun with the game
LMAO my fault
I mean, it's that or you watch a single three hour video for every character you're interested in. One video is universal basics, one video is a character overview, and one video is showcasing real world scenarios for how to use the moves in the overview. Recapping basics in every character overview would be extremely inefficient.
Think of each video as different chapters in a textbook. If you're studying a specific topic, you skip to the chapter(s) relevant to your research.
Phi is hustling sending you in a wild goose hunt, hahah! nah, this game is super hard and complex so having those videos to help you know what to pay attention to is really helpful. Hope you pick up the game!
"You might call that a panic rage art. I call that an incorrect read" words to live by
"You never give up!!" - my favourite streamer :)
Might gotta change the Mainless King display name after this 😭
Gotta change it to "What is cosplay?"
Good call Nin-Ken Dog
Is the mainless king era over? Im down for a CliDX era.
😖
C-Cli-ClitDX?
@@herlockburger7821 lmao
"now some of you may call that a panic rage art. I call that an incorrect read"
One of my new quote lol
Dude, I feel so happy to see how enthusiatic you are with clive, really hope you had find your real main!
Cheers!!
Also, everytime I see PHX (phoenix stance), I read PHDX, so fitting.
"If he whiffs Imma Zantets-..."
11:32 "Fight back! FIGhT BACK!!"
19:16 Tip, Clive parry can actually block the first hit and then parry the second hit. I'm always looking for this as a jin main
I'm going to have to eat some tasty humble pie on this one, I wasn't sure about Clive at first but after seeing him and playing him, he's awesome, I'm having a lot of fun with him. I'm actually enjoying Tekken 8 for the first time in a while. Thanks for the guides man, I might dedicate some time into learning him more and I'm sure they'll help a lot. I should also get around to playing FF16 so I know his story.
shoutouts to F1+2 the esports move that does the dishes, does the laundry, cleans my room, and does my taxes
Thanks again for the videos Phi
This is one of my favorite Tekken videos ever. I absolutely love Clive and you made him look absolutely sick in this video, incredible gameplay and walkthrough. 🔥
5:16 was til the end of the game was so fucking clean.
this is great work.. the commentary and discussed approach really helps me learn Clive too
All my friends playing Clive
"Oh he's got some Jin stuff"
"Oh he's got some Victor stuff"
"Oh he's got some (insert main here) stuff"
Gonna be a pocket for a lot of people i think, unless he gets nerfed to oblivion
he will be. thats how updates and tekken world tour works lmao
Most likely, new character is OP so they can get attention on launch then down the line they tone him down to what he’s really meant to be
@@boofkoosher2631 tell that to drag Nina Yoshi Jin Feng and Alisa
@@alexonstott4954 drag was dead from the release all he has is fake launch punishable mixup and wall travel, b1+2 is too slow and qcf4 is stepabble (always has been)
@@morgensheeeern smoking the bad kind of weed
My favorite thing about these videos is watching you go from “tutorial Phi” to “WAIT THAT WAS SICK Phi” 😂
PPClive
5:16 was so awesome lol
F2, 2, 2 is twitch confirmable, wall splats, and gives a full combo with heat dash. The second hit is safe on block, and it has really long range. It’s somewhat linear but still very strong.
And then you have F2,1 wich is a homing high that's +1 on block. I love this string.
And then you have f2, 2, 1 in heat which is actually insane.
@@overflowyouknowhis heat strings are disgusting
I loved this! I love hearing you talk through your thinking as you're playing, as a learning beginner/intermediate player it's really helpful to hear your thought process, i'd watch an even longer video of you doing this with any character just to see how an expert tekken player thinks during an actual match and APPLIES the theory that we talk about in other videos - great content!!
My favourite OS "my opponent didn't correctly play against me, I merely misplayed!"
Yeah, the ego was strong with this one.
This type of video is always awesome!! We can see the gameplan and making the adjustment when the opponent started making a counter play. It is so applicable!! I hope u can show us with every character in the future
Everytime I watch Tekken I think about giving it a try. I've never really played fighting games but this game is so hype!
5:20 Bryan laugh
It’s not a Clive video if there aren’t people complaining
*it's not a Tekken 8 video
01:55 if they nerf this, they should nerf bryans qcf1+2 as well
to be fair bryan's doesn't go nearly as far (im biased)
@@HypanozThe distance appears to be the same, if not very close.
But qcf 1+2 doesn't track
This approach to guide us through strategy and approach to every opponent is very good. Great video 😊
I’m a relatively new (semi-serious) Tekken player. Last one I played was Tekken 7 to get Platinum trophy and dabbled in T3 way back when.
Clive is my new main but I will continue to learn Mishimas since there is guaranteed continuity.
Its been really cool as a Kuma player to be able to pick Panda and play basically my main vs GoDs on Clive in Red/Purple ranks the past few days
I like your ability to quickly explain why you’re switching a style. Also pokevirus did really well I like the Zafina!
I love that passive Zafina, I can improve my style with her gameplay
Nice, I was waiting for something like this❤
Phid predicting and calling out things that will happen live is just so cool and hilarious at the same time. Bro is not just reading their gameplay but their psychological behavior
Phi is so back 😭 look at the light in his eyes man. I bet he skipped to the stream setup before making this
Been awhile since I saw PHIDX excited playing a character.
The fact that he's able to sidestep Bryan to the left is really something...
Satisfying video to watch!
Kinda hope we see a Clive version of that outro someday ngl 👀
I shall be back to this tommorow when he's avaliable for everyone else.
The more people play Clive the more they will realize to not just (try to) use Level 5 all the time. Currently everyone I play online just tries to get max level Zen, whereas I think it is much better to use lower level ones when you can.
It's MU dependant, some people will let you build fast whereas some will not.
But getting the level 5 version to hit is so orgasmic I almost don’t even care if it’s not the right strategy lmao
Clive is such a saucy looking character, all of his combos look insanely cool
Great video 👍🏽
I went to a local yesterday to play Clive and got washed💀. I was struggling with his small tekken game, so I'm gonna try to implement more PHX in neutral towards patient opponents respecting b2 and f1+2. Didn't think of using manual transition before like you did, we'll see how it goes!
Phi and a final fantasy character??????
History is repeating itself and i cant wait for it
Great video Phi! Always love the breakdowns. Now I just wish I could play analytically but I seem to struggle in adapting mid set and understanding how the opponent plays 😂 too reactionary I suppose
Unsolicited Advice: Try slowing down
@ I appreciate actual advice regardless. So unsolicited is fine. Yeah sometimes I think my brain is moving faster than it needs to be. Need to remember to breathe lol.
PP clive? by the flames i think i might faint
This Bryan player got insane combo
1:53 f1+2 is so addicting to use cuz it has such high reward too!! Doesn’t work constantly as an oki but so fun to use.
Phi: ppclive
Me: I feel whole again
Another good thing is that after phx 4 on ch, 1+2 is guaranteed along with ws 1,2 I think it was. It’s been pretty fun to play
garyu is NOT ready for what you're teaching me
Can't wait to play him
Clive really feels like Kumi from t7. The command dash and buttons into dash with mix-up's plus the combo routes really give the Kumi vides.
hehe pp
the leviathan spam was suprising in MYK'S stream i was the one who asked if both were blue sparkable which lead to that btw lol Lee stocks are DOWN
"Welcome to PP" your commitment to saying that without laughing during this series does not go underappreciated sir
I was waitin for this one😼
so if Jin (👿) does everything, he's broken!!!!1!!1! but if Clive (😃) does it, it's fine???!?!?1!!? smh my head
- someone in r/tekken
I'm stealing that "incorrect read" tech
thank you for the video, very nice way to learn the character.
It took me a lot of time to finally find my main and become a Victor enjoyer. I used to feel a bit ashamed from being called carried due to the safe power crush and stuff.
Now I can enjoy him without having a weird misconception about my personality.
Playing Victor is actually very fun, but people online are still so butthurt about him it's crazy. I usually play him, Lars or Azusena and the amount of tbags, ki-charges and one-and-dones I receive on Victor is so much bigger than the rest, lol.
nice vid Phi!!
Watching how much fun you appear to be having with Clive is making me want to try playing FF16.
Phi what do you think about making a guide specifically for FF players who are trying to get into Tekken only to play Clive.
Something that will cover only the basics of Tekken that are relevant to playing Clive.
Something like:
-This is a low that Clive has that the opponent can only block if they duck which opens them up to this mid.
-This is a running move that gives you a lot of advantage and puts you in stance and lets you act before your opponent.
-This is a launcher that lets you juggle your opponent and combo them for huge damage but its unsafe because if the opponent blocks you they get a free attack on you.
-This is a mid move that has a lot of range and is safe meaning its frame disadvantage is less than 10 so the opponent cannot get any free attacks on you since the fastest move in the game is 10 frames (jab)
Etc.
More PP from Phi, LETS GOOOO
Waiting for your clive guide like the guide you did for noctis
It really struck me how memorable his moveset is. Dude has a below average move number and they are all really distinct and colorful!
I played FFXVI and I am so happy to see many Clive's moves translated well in Tekken.
to be fair all tekken characters movelist are bloated like crazy. there are a 100+ moves for all of them yet everyone only has to use 20-25
12:37 isn't his fastest mid standing 4?
As someone mains King and Lidia, I did NOT expect to like Clive as much as I do. King and Lidia just kind of make sense to me moveset wise but Clive is taking a little work for me to figure out. Definitely need to put the lab time in for sure.
Managed to bump into your Clive today in blue ranks. It was an honor to get cooked by the GOAT
Bro knows he can’t hang wit the pros so he switched to try to be a content creator lmao
From here on out my panic/whiff rage art will be an incorrect read.
2,2 and 2,2,2 being safe is pretty good too. I've been spamming that to oblivion. Kinda reminds me of Noctis in that way
Nice Bryan player
Thx bro! 😂👍
Main take away: 50% f1+2, 40% PHX dash, 10% fundamentals
I think you shouldn't go into Phoenix shift during strings when it's minus. If it's blocked opponent can down jab and it counters all the options. On hit you have better safer options. So it only should be from strings that makes you plus.
Why did they decide to make F 1+2 the best move in the game?
let me get my notepad and turn to page 6 PhiDX giving lessons!!
Clive looks like a menace. I’m really really hoping Marduk comes out during this second season. I can’t keep going on without my true main.
Got him to tekken god day 1 I’ll push for GOD this week. Loving him
Phi can you please dedicate at least a section of the video to teach us how to utilize Clive's parry? I really loved noctis' parry move in T7 and I've been waiting so long to find a parry move I would love to do, Clive just has it. I'd like to base my fighting style around parrying and having lots of mental ground on my opponents.
Look for -5 or -8 moves that look like they give up your turn!
Feng was mashing like crazy 😭
Great video ❤
Me when he said PP Clive. Me: 👀 “did I click on the wrong video?”
Phidx what do you think about the sword moves that build meter? They leave ALL grey health, would it be better to use the other moves that do more damage, while also leaving less grey health?
Waiting for him to fuly come out cuz Im not buying the pass for one char. But this char I enjoy seeing on my screen like Lars so I hope Clive can be my secondary main.
Loving the content Phi, can we get a PP Nina video soon?
This character is insane
Yo phi looks like he's in his bag rn
you clivin in me @phi
I had a feeling you was gonna try to make him your main.
Phi my good man, my old chum, my homeboy, the bread to my butter, 13:52 wtf is that Nightbot message?
How funny when the chat says it's scripted Phi just get a paid actors doing with this vid 😂
I try to use the 10 frame 1, f+2 to "push off" opponents back into midrange. It leaves you +1 on block. Issue is it's duckable.
4:11 saving this oki situation for later
Came back to Tekken 8 just to play Clive, and you've been a TREMENDOUS help with learning the character
Yo I'm that Bryan player!!! GGS Phi! 😂👍
You were cookin ggs bro!
idk if it’s rude to point this out, but you are HEAVILY under utilizing the power crush, especially in the bryan matchup, it’s good to bait in the jab and then power crush to eat the move and gain neutral, amazing damage as well
Bryan can launch it so I'm not tryna get launched LOL
nah not for me, the big problem i have whit this character is not how broken he is;
The problem is that there is so much shit on the screen that I don't understand what he's doing, I literally don't see his movements. If Eddy already looks the same to me, this one is worse. when it's on fire you can't see anything so as long as it stays like this for me I'll be one of those who if he sees you using clive he won't give you a rematch it doesn't matter lose or win
Maybe I'll get used to it over time but I definitely don't like it.
Reina is still the best character in Tekken history