Catholic Secrets Revealed in the Dead Sea Scrolls with Dr. John Bergsma
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2019
- This interview will change the way you read Scripture! Described as the "greatest archeological find of the 20th century", the Dead Sea Scrolls have shed some serious light on a lot of topics from Scripture...Catholic light!
Join Matthew Leonard and Franciscan University of Steubenville professor, Dr. John Bergsma, for a fascinating look at how these scrolls fill in so many cracks in the narrative of Scripture.
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I love being fed new insights into Scripture and this interview was a feast!
Going to order this book. Finally, someone providing intelligent answers to questions I've had for many years about the Essene movement and connections to Judaism in Jesus' day. Great interview. Thanks for sharing it online.
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Wow, I've been studying the Dead Sea scrolls for years and suspected many of your findings, but your scholarship has put it together wonderfully. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
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In all that studying did you find ANY evidence that Jesus Christ was the son of a God.
Perhaps you found something that I can do that would prove to me that you God is not a FAKE.
@@brit1066 Hi, my understanding is very similar to what Quantum Mechanics is telling us: that underlying all of our "reality" is the Quantum Field, and one way to think of it is as infinite Consciousness (God), creating and sustaining everything. I believe that Consciousness may also be thought of as Love, and our individual consciousnesses (love) is but a small part or manifestation of God's. If you're interested in this line of reasoning search RUclips for the Inspiring Philosophy videos they do an excellent job of explaining. Good luck and God bless 🙏
J Spanyer Oh I thought you believed in the guy who fathered a human called Jesus Christ.
You say that GOD is INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS!
That does NOT sound like the god of the Bible.
Can you DEFINE INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS for me, I looked in the Bible and found NO MENTION of INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS.
Is this a widely held view of GOD in the scientific community.
I can confidently predict that if you said to the average GOD freak that GOD WAS INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS, you would get a VERY CONFUSED if not BLANK STARE.
If you look into virtually ANY CHURCH or even in a bible will you find a drawing of an elderly bearded man with a very bright halo.
Entitled GOD (INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS).???????
Is this the BEST you can do, you are PATHETIC.
@@brit1066 well isn't omnipotent, omnipresent like/is infinite consciousness.www.openbible.info/topics/god_is_everywhere this site proves it. There are many examples of God's existence, but you need to tell me what kind of example you want of it.
I happened to listened to one of the earliest discussions on RUclips presented by Israeli archeologist. My concluding thought, “gee ... this backs up catholic/orthodox view of Jesus Christ”. I’m glad to see my instincts were not wrong.
Sir, could you tell me the name of that RUclips video? I'd love to check it out.
tony - there are two lectures in RUclips: 1) Prof Rachel Elior, Jewish studies prof. Talk at University of Chicago - 1/15/14 dated.
2) in UCTV RUclips - by prof Lawrence schiffman, Judaism, Christianity, and the Dead Sea scrolls.- given 11 years ago.
@@richardbenitez7803 I can substantiate that those are two prominent, reliable Jewish scholars of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Had the pleasure of having him as the lecturer for my Old testament class at Franciscan University.
I've enrolled to study theology at Notre Dame. I hope I get a lecturer like him! Your so lucky :)
Alot of these guys say study philosophy first, otherwise liberal professors and other things will hurt your faith. Philosophy and Aquinas helps the most with understanding theology in deepest terms
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This is mind-blowing! Thanks for sharing this interview; it's fantastic.
Thanks!
Excellent content as usual. Thank you for your work!
This was really enjoyable to listen to. Thank you :)
Great discussion. God bless
An excellent insight on John the Baptist's background and a lot more... Thank you!
It is so good to hear this, please more.....
This was an incredibly interesting talk. I'm going to have to buy the book before I go to the Holy Land - God willing, of course! I'm truly grateful to have come across this video; it's very educational. Also, both gentlemen have a great sense of humor! I was cracking up at some points. God bless.
Thanks, Michelle! (And I'm leading a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 2021:)
@@MatthewLeonard Oh wow, that's wonderful, Matthew! Who knows...maybe I'll be able to join your group if I don't go next year😊✝
@@MatthewLeonard Matthew would you consider what I know to be true directly from God the Father and if you agree would you be able and willing to inform Dr John Bergsma what I am revealing here today. I have stopped the video just now where Dr Bergsma is speaking of two Messiahs one being the priesthood. That is correct it is because Revelation 12:1-5 is relating to the second coming of Jesus by priest DNA from another woman. The woman is a descendant of Phinehas by whom Father God made a covenant his offspring would be priests to time indefinite Numbers 25:10-13. Hebrews 1:6 foretells God the Father would again bring His Firstborn into the inhabited earth. On that day the woman's child was caught away to His Father in heaven before the serpent could devour the woman's child Rev. 12:5. This was prophesied by Jacob the Patriarch of the two women in Genesis 49:10, 25. For the sceptre and commanders staff did depart from between Judah's feet for Shiloh has come to whom the obedience of the peoples belongs. At the end of verse 25 you will see written 'blessings of breasts and blessing of womb' that is because in the first coming when Yehoshua learned obedience by the things he suffered and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him. Because he has been specifically called by God a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek; as it is written Hebrews 5:8-10.
Blessings of breasts is plural for when Yehoshua was born in the king linage Mary nurtured the Son of God and when the child of God was caught away to God in His second coming he was again nurtured by Mary a second time. The blessing of womb is singular for the woman who gave birth in Revelation 12 prophesy did not nurture her child born from high priest linage that the Son of God will rule as King and High Priest in the manner of Melchizedek. I would like to reveal much more. and offer all information to Dr Gergsma if he will permit me. I do.not want to receive any benefit at all for the information I seek to fulfil the obligation my Elohim has given me to fulfil and that begins with finding a person who is willing to examine all factual evidence I can provide and find out from one witness who was also told about the coming again of the Son of God into the world. This will be a miracle if you contact me I will explain why it will be a miracle.
ps. read please Matthew 1:22,23 for I was told by my Elohim this Son of God in the second coming is called by His Father Emmanuel meaning when translated 'With Us Is God'. ps there is so much more I need to explain!
It's truly an eye opener. Thank you very much.
Thank you - that is just so fascinating and makes such a lot of sense - makes me want to know more
This was extremely interesting. Thanks!
This old video is very edifying, wonderful explanation by the guest about our Catholic faith. Gbu'll
Great Wotk. Thank you!!! 🔥⚡👊
This is fantastic stuff. Thank you!
I have just found your channel 100% fantastic.
There is no one I enjoy listening to, (or reading) more than Dr. John Bergsma! 👍👍👍😇
Wow! This feels a lot like Isaiah must have felt when he had a glimpse of God's train in the temple! Thank you for an awesome and very humbling listening experience!
Saw the scrolls when they came to Grand Rapids, MI. Amazing!!
Really wow. Interesting that John the Baptist could very likely have been with the essenes. Thnx for the research sir.
As always, great insight from Dr Bergsma!
The Dead Sea Scrolls are awesome to see in real life. If you get the chance to see the exhibition go.
Got to see the exhibition of the Dead Sea Scrolls at the Boston Museum of Science several years ago now, amazing.
what a fascinating and enlightening interview. I have leearned so much. Thank you.
John lived in Qumran with other priests that would not accept the Pharisees rule of the temple. Essenes lived in Ein Gedi. John was never kicked out of Qumran, he had a mission go out and prepare the way.
Amazing insight. 43:15... mind blown (well, several times but this for me was more so)
EXCELLENT AND MARVELOUS EXPLANATION.
Thank you so much guys.
Both of you are so much fun to listen to
Excellent insights to scriptures . 🙏
Wonderful. Grateful.
I was greatly impressed with John Bergsma upon seeing him for my first time on "Journey Home"
with Marcus Grodi (March 24, 2008). He has only continued to further impress me.
Just found your channel
Awesome!
Thank you
Thank you!
It's interesting how new ideas, or thoughts are found by archeologist n scholars about the scriptures and/or the Dead Sea scrolls yet no one in the public is allowed to see these tablets in its ORIGINAL FORM.
The guy on the left has the most beautiful magnetic laugh.
Youre going to hell
If you had a 364 day year, a 'leap week' would be needed every seven years and every 28 years a second leap week would be required.
Read the book and loved it!
I love being Catholic
Very great talk, really appreciate and like Dr. Bergsma. Interesting insights. I would however disagree with his Passover hypothesis, which falls under the 'Two Calendar Hypothesis'. Benedict XVI offers a different view, as does Pitre in 'The Last Supper,' a great text. John never says, "the day of preparation for the passover," but "the day of preparation" (Jn 19:31) - i.e. for the Sabbath, a solemn sabbath due to its falling on the seven day Passover festival. This is a simple way to correlate the truth of the Synoptics and John. Pitre's view that the crucifixion occurred on the first day of Passover doesn't seem right either though, being such a solemn and busy day. Benedict stated as such (as opinion of course, not pontifically).
Trimakasih atas informasix. Great
John would not have been "kicked out" of the Qumran community but rather led out by the Holy Spirit and the community would have recognized His anointing and supported his ministry.
I thought that too. Maybe he had to leave because he was a student and had to prove himself.
These buffoons are either Masonics or paid off by false jews. The mock our faith.
Does not explain the locust & honey though.
Father Malachi Martin read and studied them! And he spoke of them.
So?
True! God bless Malachi Martin!
Mary! My Mother!
Mystical Rose!
Flower God chose!
His Son's repose!
You held Him first in your precious womb
You cared and watched over the Bloom
And finally beneath the Cross's gloom
Oh Mother most fair!
You are always there!
In you now we place our care!
Into your tender Heart
Our pledge is to become part
To you we pray impart
The Master's Loving Art! Amen
By John Joseph Hawkins jr. Amen
YOU NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP.
SEE A DOCTOR NOW.
IN YOUR CURRENT STATE YOU MAY BE A DANGER TO YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU.
@@brit1066 Please give us the name of Your psychiatrist. You believe this fantastically beautiful planet, the only one of its kind in the universe, that not only sustains us
but delights us with its awsome beauty, created itself ? There is no reason for your existence ? for love ? free will ? Science ? for the 10 commandments ?
John Sheedy I will tell you this, if you will go to your psychiatrist first and have him examine you and your belief that a MYTHICAL CREATURE CREATED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IN 6 days, that this same creature watches every single one of us and has a plan for all,of us.
And his son is coming back at a time that we may not know or may not ask about and that is we anger this creature we will burn FOR EVER IN A LAKE OF FIRE
Then I will also go to my psychiatrist and tell him that as yet SCIENCE does NOT KNOW HOW THE UNIVERSE CAME INTI EXISTENCE, but it sure as hell was not created in 6 days by a creature called GOD.
I ALSO TRUST THAT SCIENCE HAS DISCOVERED MANY TRUTHS THAT HAVE IN THE PAST BEEN INEXPLICABLE, but are now understood and can be PROVED TO BE TRUE OR CORRECT.
But as yet science cannot tell us where the universe came from.
Why are the god freaks so fascinated by the origin of the universe, which may never be known to us.
Yet they are silent when asked to describe ETERNAL LIFE and what we may expect to ACTUALLY DO DURING THE BILLIONS OF YEARS OF OUR ETERNAL LIFE.
Ai have asked this question a thousand times BUT AS YET HAVE RECEIVED NO RATIONAL ANSWER.
But this question of where the universe came from is asked over and over again. Maybe because the god freaks have hat they consider a show stopper when they say that atheists believe the universe CAM FROM NOTHING.
The correct answer to where did the universe come from is, WE DO NOT KNOW.
Please tell me where GOD CAME FROM, WHO MADE GOD.
Oh sorry the answer to that is GOD HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.
And you want ME TO GO TO A PSYCHIATRIST.
STOP LYING.
@@brit1066 I think I will go to a psychiatrist ! Do you know that the Catholic church has established many universities to study science, among other subjects, down through history ? Sad that you don't know that God loves you, created you and wants you to return to HIM when your journey here is finished. Maybe Someday ?
John Sheedy Yes I know all about that.
The Catholic Church also still does EXORCISMS, to cast out evil spirits.
Those catholic universities also train doctors who are trained in modern medicine based on EVOLUTION.
Unless you know of any doctors who practice medicine based on CREATION.
My doctor at Vanderbilt Med center in Nashville is quite religious but he knows that EVOLUTION IS THE BASIS FOR MODERN MEDICINE.
IT IS WELL KNOWN that even doctors trained in modern medicine at catholic universities KNOW that EVOLUTION IS TRUE and CREATION IS A FAIRY TALE.
They just keep quiet about it.
You can believe, have faith in, grovel before and swear till you are blue in the face that your god is real, BUT YOU CANNOT TURN LIES INTO TRUTH.
Science does NOT require FAITH OR BELIEF, science uses a concept you are unfamiliar with, it is TRUTH, PROOF, REALITY AND HONESTY.
All of which are unknown by the god freaks.
I wonder if the cisterns could have been used as a "solar still" during the dry periods? To make potable water, there would need to be the top condensing layer that would mimic plastic sheeting, or maybe God provided
I would appreciate being corrected if I'm wrong but I learnt that, in reference to John eating Locusts and wild honey. Locusts is a plant/weed local to that region of the Middle East
I heard the same thing while on pilgrimage in the Holy Land, but I don't think that's Dr. Bergsma's opinion. That said, I'll let him answer that if he chooses to. Thanks for the comment!
Detective Holmes Yes. There is evidence that John the Baptist, Jesus and the first christians were vegetarians. John did not eat insects!
@@bluefairyuk Thanks! It makes sense since the insects are seasonal but would appreciate a source if you have one. Thanks again..
@@bluefairyuk In reference to Jesus being a vegetarian, I would question that. Only on the presumption he would have followed the passover law.. Although if John was part of this other Jewish Sec he would be, and that is why his diet is mentioned
@@bluefairyuk what about lamb at Passover and fish that he freely passed out. He even cooked it and fed it to his disciples
Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich says that the Galileans were permitted to eat the Passover sacrifice one day early. So technically, it was the day before (normal) Passover, but ceremonially, for them at least, it was THEIR Passover.
Bergsma is phenomenal
“The Halachah regarding locusts is that one is allowed to eat a specific type of locust only if there is a "continuous tradition" that affirms that it is Kosher. It is not enough that the locust seems to conform to the criteria mentioned in the Torah.”
Envisioning John the Baptist's parents, Zechariah and Elizabeth, acting like Miracle Max (Billy Crystal) and Valerie (Carole Kane) in _The Princess Bride_ in shooing John out into the desert.....
"Have fun, living the desert and heralding in the Messiah!"
Stupendous
John speaks of the Preparation Day NOT for the Passover, but for the Sabbath! Parasceve is the day before the Sabbath!!!
Dr. John misses an important possibility with regard to the 'double messiah'. Jesus' mother's cousin was the wife of a kohen who ministered in the temple. therefore, Elizabeth had to be of a kohenic family. Mary, her cousin, may also have been of a kohenic family, therefore. Since Jesus received all his DNA from Mary, he would then also be, by bloodline, a kohen. He was of the Davidic line through the law by the inheritance of an adopted child to Joseph but He may have been a kohen by genetic inheritance. If that is the case, the Essenes were correct that the messiah would be both a kohen and a king.
To this day, Kohen descent is only through the father, so how does that work? The ancients didn't know about DNA -- and if you're going to cite DNA, it's rather absurd to suggest that Jesus got all his DNA from Mary. If you're going to go by scientific reasoning, then there's no such thing as a virgin birth. Why even bring DNA into it? If a miracle is a miracle, and if faith is faith, DNA had nothing to do with it, and there's no need to "prove" that Jesus was from a high priestly lineage.
Yes. I have also read that Jesus in His First Coming was the Priestly Messiah, while in His Second Coming He will be the Royal Messiah and reign as King.
@@Historian212 Because Jesus was human. We all agree on that except for those who try to claim he never existed. If he was human, he got his DNA from somewhere and that needs to be accounted for because it is real and his makeup depended on it. God doesn't have physical DNA, so where did it come from? If you don't believe that Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived, then you can postulate that his human father was Joseph and that's where half his DNA came from, although that clearly contradicts what the gospel writers claim, or you can say what many Jewish scholars say, that his father was someone other than Joseph (thus Joseph's quandry when he found out Mary was pregnant) and that Mary was unfaithful to him, or as some Jews claim "She was a loose woman". If any of these other theories are true, then that changes who Jesus was in a major way. So, fundamentally, Christians have to believe what Mary said about his paternity because no other human being knows. Even those who postulate that it was a man other than Joseph, or Joseph himself, they have no evidence or proof for this belief. It is, after-all, a belief, not a provable fact.
Chapter and verse?
excellent
Hi Matthew! You mentioned on a comment here that you are leading A trip to the Holy Land this year, have you gone? I know you had shared that right before the pandemic began…..
Baptism part makes sense about John the Baptist because both in the catholic and orthodox churches you only ever get one baptism.
There were already existing copies of the Bible that are a lot older than 1000 AD. The codex vaticanus for example.
He was talking specifically about the scroll of Isaiah.
Maybe I missed this.....but what was the significance of the bread and wine ritual for the Essenes?
The point is not if Joh. 3:3-10 is talking about water-and spirit-baptism. The point is it’s being a later Greek way of mindset and not at all a Jewish expression to talk about being “born again or from above”.
Anyway, the interpretation of what the unknown author of John was writing about, was not that the wilderness sect was using some kind of water baptism (with spirit baptism), like John the Baptizer later used, but turned the spirit baptism with fire over to his cousin Jesus to handle.
The typological image of being born again is clearly right just like as Nicodemus grasped it. The part that Jesus was blaming him for was that Nicodemus thought Jesus was talking about physical birth.
The author really meant for Jesus to give Nicodemus an allegorical picture of the amniotic fluid (water) birthing out first, as well as when the child begins the journey out, with the help of the woman’s strain and effort, being born with his or her first breath (spirit) and scream.
Amazon Synod??
The wom is full of water
About John the Baptist's childhood, i think a mystic's private revelation says that John the Baptist and his mum went to the wilderness cuz Mama Mary told one of Her Angels to warn them about Herod wanting to massacre the Infants. And Zechariah was killed near the altar (which Jesus mentioned when denouncing His current generation) cuz he refused to disclose his son's location cuz the soldiers were looking for his son cuz, you know, Herod was ordering the massacre and stuff
I wondered how to chew this theory
FYI blessed Ann Catherine Emmerich also had visions of the last supper and stated that during the trial of Jesus apparently they accused him of having Passover a day early? They had argued that there was an alternate calendar used up in the area of Galilee that is approved and legal from a Judaism perspective. So this is confirmation on this matter, of those particular visions from the 1820s. Have you read these?
God bless!
It's possible to imagine that John had heard from his parents about his cousin.
Remember there were no watches back then and days were of 'night and day'..
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Don't they speak Spanish
Blessed Ann Catherine Emmerich visions are proved by your research DR . BERGSMA...and now I know why jesus view differed from all the scribes and preists of herods temple....
The Jewish Bible Tanach is a closed canon. There is a written Torah and it cannot fully be understood without the oral tradition, especially the translated Greek OT, then retranslated again.
Well, it is now. Wasn't until about the second century or later.
If you convert to Judaism you must take a ritual bath called Micva. I have always figured that John the Baptist was doing something like this.
There are locust insects AND locust berries.
The Essenes seem to have been a separatist movement, requiring their members to not engage in commerce with outsiders and not participating in the Temple cult. John the Baptist and Jesus, on the other hand, reach out to outsiders and invite them into relationship in God's Kingdom. The Essene movement did not survive the Jewish War in 66-70 AD while the Church reached out to the Gentile world and brought the Gospel to the nations.
Very enlightening! And ya I laughed at how we just accept a lot of those oddities in the bible. Like how John the Baptist lived in the wild and ate honey and crickets lol 😂
Baptism was very important to early Christians, but today preachers say you don't have to be baptized to be saved. 😣
Tom Jenkins - according to...?
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Sandra,
I'm with you.
Protestants have no idea of what we, the original Church, have taught and practiced regarding Baptism since Jesus founded us.
I truly believe that in their criticism they reveal their constant anxiety of being outside the truth.
@Tom Jenkins
Tom,
Ask your biblical "gurus": Where does the Bible teach that Christians did not baptize their babies since apostolic times, or that they were prohibited from doing so?
Did they forget to read what Jesus taught about the importance of children in His Kingdom?
LUKE 18:15-17
15. Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them; and when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16. But Jesus called them to him, saying, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God.
17. Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”
So I ask you Tom:
I ask you:
Does the word, "everyone", specifically excludes children?
If it does,
Why did Peter ask that everyone be baptized, without exclusions?
ACTS 2:38-39
38. And Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him.”
Baptism is the Christian equivalent of circumcision, or “the circumcision of Christ”:
COLOSSIANS 2:11-12
11. In him also you were circumcised with a spiritual circumcision, by putting off the body of the flesh in the circumcision of Christ;
12. when you were buried with him in BAPTISM, you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.
Thus, like circumcision, BAPTISM can be given to children as well as adults. The difference is that circumcision was powerless to save (Gal. 5:6, 6:15), but “Baptism . . . now saves you” (1 Pet. 3:21).
The first explicit evidence of children of believing households being baptized comes from the early Church, where infant baptism was uniformly upheld and regarded as apostolic. In fact, the only reported controversy on the subject of Baptism was a third-century debate whether or not to delay baptism until the eighth day after birth, like its Old Testament equivalent, circumcision!
IRENAEUS BISHOP OF LYON 189 A.D.
(He identified the authors of all four Gospels)
“He, Jesus, came to save all through himself; all, I say, who through him are reborn in God: infants, and children, and youths, and old men..."
HIPPOLYTUS 215 A.D.
“Baptize first the children, and if they can speak for themselves let them do so. Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for them” (The Apostolic Tradition 21:16 [A.D. 215]).
ORIGEN 248 A.D.
“Every soul that is born into flesh is soiled by the filth of wickedness and sin. . . . In the Church, baptism is given for the remission of sins, and, ACCORDING TO THE USAGE OF THE CHURCH, BAPTISM IS GIVEN EVEN TO INFANTS. If there were nothing in infants which required the remission of sins and nothing in them pertinent to forgiveness, the grace of baptism would seem superfluous” (Homilies on Leviticus 8:3 [A.D. 248]).
May God bless your discernment.
Protestants preachers have reduced and changed Christianity into a form which is unrecognisable to the early Christian church.
@Tom Jenkins
Tom,
Remaining ignorant to 1986 years of factual truth is your choice.
May God open your eyes.
It was not just men but families that were part of the Essenes.
Carrying a jar of water could refer to a jar of urine since there referred to urine as your water? Would that be a possibility?
John must be right about the last supper.. the sign of lamb's blood on the doors for the angel of death to cross (pass over) them not touching their family and the lamb (Jesus) crucified and shed his blood.... the Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt and the resurrection of Christ...
If Christ is 2nd Moses, isn't this how it was supposed to be calculated of the passover....
I agree, that not all need to be intricately followed and shoved in people's throat.. that's the best of Catholic church... we do not force faith into anyone... while some rules are needed and some can be freely followed by our will and faith...
Chris Bailey: I'm against forced conversion too... many non-Catholics seem to think this is what Christ asked to do... when the apostles preached "convert" it meant convert from your wicked ways, convert to better human lives... not in religion... as much as they prayed in the name of FATHER, SON AND SPIRIT, blessing people... they had no right to conversion to religion by force... they had to teach the way of life asking people to follow his footsteps and not another religious fanatic group...
Great interview, however, if one reads the Mystical City of God, one reads that when the Holy Family fled to Egypt Our Lady, by God's permission, sent her angels to warn Elizabeth about Herod's order to kill the infants. They in turn fled to the wilderness. By the age of 4 John the Baptist was orphaned, Birds brought him food and the angels educated him. Just saying.
@Chris Bailey I think we all have our own personal guardian angel, don't we. If we & they are also fellow members of the Kingdom of God, it makes sense to pray & converse with one. After all we are creatures made by him unlike fallen angels who tend to think different.
You 2 are funny
So sad or non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters feel that they can only read the Bible.
They miss so much.
I won't be surprised that John's diet of consuming what was 'not prepared by human hands' may be his longing for the 'true manna', a food which is Christ Himself, not 'made by human means'... immaculately conceived and miraculous. Except that he may not precisely how (at that time), this food would be available and distributed, also having died before the Institution of the Eucharist of the Lamb.
Cool thanks is there such thing as evil mana
A point by point refutation of Bart Ehrman's objections based on apparent discrepancies would be helpful.
You should read Bergsma's book. (Also see Dr. Brant Pitre's "The Case for Jesus" where Pitre takes Ehrman apart.)
Wow...they were right...the Messiah did come...the first time....how do you know John the Baptist wasn't sent out rather than kicked out...as on a mission
Qumran Essenes had marriages in the community - they were not monks , they did not comb or cut their Locks/hair hence the mark of a Nazarene description of Yashua - DreadLocks he had pon His Head
There is/ was a st john the Baptist sect in iraq in modern times but had undergone major persecution after fall of saddam by ISIS along with many other non muslim sects.
re Tradition: Jews consider the oral Torah to be on a par with the written one. And St Augustine pointed out in his day that there were contradictions in the gospels.
Most contradictions are really not. Also, the fact that there are minor contradictions give the accounts verisimilitude, they were not collusions or there would be no historical details that are different. You guys on one hand accuse the accounts of being collusions, and on the other, of being contradictory. Make up your mind.
People tend to believe what they want to believe.
The ancestors of St. Anne, Mary's mother, were the Essenes as recounted in chapter 1 of the Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary From The Visions Of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich. Jesus was an Essene.
Albert McGilvra can you give a chapter and page that this account is listed in Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich’s book?
@@grantv.broussard8595 Its the very beginning of ch 1 of The Life of The Blessed Virgin Mary. The Visions book is actually three books, you have to find the one mentioned.
Ezekiel 36:25
Zechariah, John the Baptist's father was murdered by Herod's henchman. According to this apocryphal writing, King Herod was searching for John the Baptist and sent guards to Zechariah to find out where he was. Zechariah replied that he is always in the temple area serving God and had no idea where John could be. When threatened with death, Zechariah is said to reply: “I am God’s martyr, if you shed my blood; for the Lord will receive my spirit, because you shed innocent blood at the vestibule of the temple of the Lord.
” (Protoevangelium of James, 23). According to this story, the guards killed him and his body was found later on.
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Thank you for your great work with your graphic analysis of available written data. I would though like to add a quick comment on your flippant usage of the dark and dangerous word ‘heresy’. I disagree that the ecumenical council would do what you’re suggesting here. Canon law experts say that if the Pope were in fact to endorse heresy he would automatically no longer be Pope and the college of Cardinals would have to find a new one. So relax. The current Catholic Church are, as the Essenes were - ‘sons of light’. Not ‘darkness’.
John the Baptist is definitely not underestimated in the Eastern churches and only in the last few hundred years has he been fairly ignored in the western church.
Well said. The Dead Sea Scroll shed light on the truth of the Catholic Bible where we have 46 Books of the Old Testament and
27 Books of the New Testament making up the whole true Bible of 73 Books. Protestant Bible with 7 books removed by. Luther is not a Christian Bible at all because that is a version of the Jews who did not believe in Christ as well as the alleged Jamnia. Council in 90AD that most of the Biblical Scholars say it's a made up and a fake council that the protestants forced to be a council where Jews finalized its Bible with fewer Books. Thank you both for your talk. It helps the Catholics to understand and defending the Original Catholic Bible.
so this explains why there were no women during the last supper
Its ironic but the exprotestants are gallantry leading catholics back to the faith
I don't think it's ironic. Conversion to Catholicism comes naturally after studying history, philosophy and theology. As a result, many genuine converts are much more passionately knowledgeable about the faith than many cradle Catholics, who never really bothered to study the history of Christendom and theology. I don't know if you've noticed the same thing, but the majority of Catholics I know and meet know very little about their own faith. Many don't even believe in moral truths upheld by Church, such as the sin of contraception or even fornication, and many don't believe in the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. The thing is, a non-Catholic who doesn't come to learn the truth of the dogmas of the Catholic Church, just doesn't convert, so the ones who do convert, often do so because they've studied and gained much knowledge. (Although some conversions may be less genuine... done for reasons of converting to one's spouse's religion, for example, even though they don't really believe.)